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  • it first yondaime, then naruto, fake madara/tobi and raikage.....i guess guy sensei when hes all out

  • @mdnghtblue97

    naruto is fake

    hes not fast

    KYUBI MODE IS GIVING HIM EVERYTHING

  • minato raikage et naruto on des vitesse apepré similaire de peut de diférence apré regarder les episode ou scan il disen bien que minato et le seul a avoir "egaler " le raikage en terme de vitesse mai nn surpasser et naruto et de la meme vitesse que son pere conclusion au qun nes vraimen plus rapide bye

  • i believe Naruto is the fastest as he dosen't use a teleportation jutsu! and Is Fucking fast!

  • The yellow flash isn't even fast!!! he uses a teleporting jutsu... he moves through portals created by the markers that he made. therefore 'A'(Raikage) is the fastest because he actually moves really fast not teleport like a tw@. If minato didn't use the Flying thunder god technique... he would not be class as the fastest! Even though i don't think he is.

  • OMG! here is the right number.

    1: Minato

    2: Naruto

    3: Raikage

    4: Sasuke

    5: Tobi

  • @ThePluffyBear sasuke is not fast

  • WHERE ARE GUY AND LEE ???

  • naruto himself shouldnt be on this list, too many characters are faster than him

  • @Indirectcell No, he's pretty much the fastest character alive in the series right now man :D

  • @Indirectcell then you havent read manga. Naruto is just as fast as minato, with only usin taijutsu!

  • Naruto in Bijuu Chakra mode is the fastest its HIS SPEED when he is in this mode. Minato Namikaze is just using the Flying Raijin Technique but Minato's speed is also very fast but the flying raijin is space time ninjutsu. raikage is the 3rd. Naruto and Minato already surpassed him

  • SHISUI IS FASTER THEM SASUKE AND ITACHI

  • TAKE ITACHI AWAY

    -

    AND PUT ROCK LEE IN THAT LIST

    REMEMBER WHEN HE FOUGHT

    AGAINST GAARA

    HOW FAST HE WAS

  • WHERE IS ROCK LEE

  • 1. Minato

    2. Naruto (can't really control his speed as well as minato)

    3. Raikage

    4 & 5 is a tie between Sasuke and Itachi.

  • @ElementL09

    no

    the manga says raikage is the fastest

    minato is only using teleport

    and

    the manga didnt say naruto is fastest - so no -

    raikage is number 1.

  • @TheSupervegata U read Very wrong then... It's stand that Raikage is the fastest Man on earth NOW before was minato And now is even naruto faster then raikage so ...

  • @csmannen999

    who said it that naruto is faster tHAN A

    I DIDNT READ IT IN THE MANGA

    I DIDNT SEE

    ALL I SAW WAS RAIKAGE PUNCHING NARUTO

    RAIKAGE IS THE FASTEST

    RAIKAGE IS FASTER THAN NARUTO

  • @ElementL09 LMAO sasuek is not fast ..lmao

  • GOOD LIST 

  • OBJECTION! Tobi isn't using speed! Warping Space-Time is cheating!

  • @1andonlycrazist And you can't say the same for Minato cause he really is ridiculously fast: The Flying Thunder God just makes makes even more so

  • sasuke nao e melhor que itachi, tobi e melhor que minato , simos dois lutam e minato venceu mas hoje tobi e melhor que ele se tornando 2 melhor 1 seria o sabio de 6 caminhos 2 tobi 3 minato

  • Sasuke is faster than Itachi.

  • Allow me to correct a few things.

    3rd - raikage.

    2nd - Naruto

    1st - Minato.

    All based on the manga and from what the raikage himself has stated.

  • @Sweddude

    no man

    raikage is faster than naruto -

    -

    its not naruto that makes him fast - its the 9 tails

  • @tenshinhann1 Ok if you want to play that game, its not raikage who is fast, its his lightning armor, its not Nagato who is powerfull, its his rinnegan who gives him his power, its not bee who is strong as heck, its his tailed beast.

  • Know what would be fast? Lee with no weights 8 gates with minato's transportation Jutsu.... Lol mixed some stuff together

  • lol

    i think naruto is the 3rd person not 4th

    because after naruto when tamed the 9 tail beast

    he could use teleportation just like minato and tobi

  • @Evilvips

    but thats not him

    thats the 9 tails

  • Guy with 7 gates is enough xD

  • Very subjective claim. There's no way to know. Minato's hiraishin isn't really speed, it's teleportation (although if you watch the Madara fight he IS really fucking fast as well). Tobi is actually quite slow. Personally I think either Guy with 8 gates or Naruto in sage mode with his new purified kyuubi chakra would be the quickest.

  • @Vire70 nah Shisui Uchiha

  • @SkyKnight26

    Nothing but speculation in terms of Shisui's speed - we never see him fight at all. By that logic you might as well just say Sage of Six Paths is the fastest, since it's probably true anyhow.

  • @Vire70 No...he as called the flicker cause of his speed ...the sage was never known for being fast ..Shisui was ..read the manga ..his speed was faster than the 4th Raikage

  • @SkyKnight26

    Actually he's called Shisui of the Shunshin. Shunshin is pretty much like Hiraishin afaik, it isn't pure speed. Besides whcih Shisui was like 15 when he died. Stating he is as fast or faster than Naruto, Raikage, Minato even... is completely absurd. Especially seeing as Itachi is slower than the aforementioned and he killed him without much effort.

  • I wouldn't say Tobi is the 2nd fastest, he is just more evasive

  • Gai and Lee can open up all 8 gates so there strenght and speed to the point Kakashi wouldnt be able to handle it. actually he is Madara, so we all believe.

  • @ABMEISTER1 LMAO ...but they gain that with techniques as well ...they are fast no doubt..but if they opened all gates they would die..and Madara and Tobi have showed no signs of speed lol

  • correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure both Gai and Lee are fastter then Naruto and Sasuke. I truth fully think that madara is #1 the minato, then Raikage the Gai. not sure where lee is right now but I am possittive he is fast then sasuke and naruto.

  • @ABMEISTER1 lol madara isnt tobi so u dont know his speed :\ and naruto now has his kyuubi thingy form so he's really fast and sasuke can keep up with kakashi, im pretty sure lee cant keep up with kakashi and gai cant either most of the time:\

  • @ABMEISTER1 no anymore naruto is faster then both of them combined...actutally all of you have the wrong idea..it would be a tie for number 1 ...Minato and "The Flicker" Shisui Uchiha, he's said to be faster then the Raikage with no justu, ..then Naruto..then, Raikage then Itachi cause he can flicker as well...last it would be might guy

  • @SkyKnight26 yeah your right. then again with out that jutsu then it would be a different story.

  • @ABMEISTER1 yeah but see Guy is naturally fat anyway lol ..so he really dosent need the gates...all in alli still think that Shisui and Minato remain the two fastest in history ...i only say they would die cause when people say guy first thing they say is he has the 8 gates.but it would end his life

  • @SkyKnight26 dint he use the 8gates vs kisame

  • @o0ericj0o yes but he didnt use all 8 gates

  • in time measurement:

    minato

    tobi

    raikage

    naruto

    sasuke

    

  • hello my name is uchiha madara. any more questions?!

  • 1) Uzumaki Naruto is second fastest ninja.

    2) Itachi is not fast.

    3) Tobi is not fast.

  • @Juubi00 how is itachi not fast look at itachi vs sasuke right b4 he kicks him in the wall thats some serious speed plus hes got some pretty fast hand if not the fastest on the show so fast sharingan users kakashi and sasuke cant keep up with it

  • @o0ericj0o But not fast enough to be in Top 5.

  • @Juubi00 his speed is pure speed though not enhanced by any jutsu or tailed beast

  • @o0ericj0o yep Itachi and Shisui Uchiha

  • guy is pretty much the fastest one

    and the trickiest one

    he is not using chakra

    thats the trick behind the tai jutsu

    gai (8th gates for sure) doesnt even need to see u he would just kill u in an instant

    faster then the raikage or minato

    cause he is fuckin LEGEN... wait for it... DARY!

  • @alibaba0895 U know what he isn't faster then Minato Even if hes 8thgate;)

    True he uses tai jutsu but he isn't faster then the raikage or minato read manga or watch naruto shippuden episodes...

  • @csmannen999 if he uses that he will die..lol

  • why is tobi chasing yamato with a stick?

  • @MG42B34ST

    because he can.

    man, it's tobi, not everything has to be logical.

  • Minato

    Naruto

    Guy with 8th gate open

    Raikage

    everyone else sucks

  • WHAT ?!

    1. RIKUDO SENNIN (ANY QUESTIONS ??)

    2. NARUTO (KYUUBI MODE)

    3. MINATO (TP KUNAIS -.-)

    4. RAIKAGE (RAITON NO YORUI)

    5. GAI (HACHIMON)

  • @MrMaciek1231 I haven't seen Rikudo Sennin fight, what episode/chapter is that in that you can show how fast he is? I would like to see him fighting. Also, Minato is faster than Naruto. Naruto moves fast, Minato is instant. Even if Naruto can move from point A to point B in one thousandth of a second, Minato will be there first.

  • @MrMaciek1231 Rikudo Sennin ? lmao ...try Shisui Uchiha..one of the fastest ever

  • Nine tailed Naruto is actually faster than anyone in Naruto.....he is faster than minato in that form and has been mistaken for him multiple times.Minatos special abillity to teleport,so when it comes to speed with out this he is slow,but with it he is the same speed if not slower than Naruto

  • @Arbiter8655 Space time manipulation makes speed irrelevant, as its instant, speed of light isn't faster than that. Also, minato is still faster than naruto, even without hiraishin A stated that minato is as fast as him even with his raiton yoroi

  • Itachi is only good on Brains. His not so fast. And Masked man is not fast at all. He only use the teleportation jutsu thats why he look fast.

  • minato is just boss

  • 1.Rock Lee

    2.Minato

    3.Itachi

    4.tobi

    5.nine tailed naruto

  • Minato is the fastest the raikage said no one can surpass the speed of the 4th hokage

  • naruto is faster than the raikage

  • 1. minato

    2. nine tailed naruto

    3. sasuke

    4. raikage

    5. tobi

  • i think that naruto now is the fastest

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  • Actual top 5 should be fuy minato naruto sauskae rocklee

  • Actually the Raikage pretty much admits that Naruto is faster than him, when he dodges A's attack, something only Minat had done before. Speaking if which, technically Tobi and Minato aren't "speed", they're "teleportation". "Speed" implies that one is actually physically moving through the space between Point A and Point B. They aren't. They warp directly from point A to point B.

  • Neither one Sasuke or Naruto are faster than Itachi, he should be straight behind Minato..

  • @HardcoreComputing naruto in kyubi mode, and the raikage are much more faster than itachi

  • Naruto is faster than Raikage. It was shown already. Tobi wouldn't be able to react to raikage or Naruto if he didn't have the Sharingan so I wouldn't consider him faster. Lee is faster than sasuke especially when he takes off his ankle weights and unlocks the gates so sasuke shouldn't be on here

  • @ShotsFTW Well, actually he is, after showing Sasuke all his sharingans on his right arm he did a Jutsu and ran into him, like really fast, and when Sasuke's Susano'o "squeezed" him to death he teleported on of the pillars, and I 'think' he is fast, its my opinion :D

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  • Obviously this vid was posted before Naruto got his chakra mode. Now he's more than likely faster than his dad. He was quick in sage mode though. But he's gotten quicker. Damn, now he has ninetails chakra mode and sage mode. He could end up being like the sage of the six paths if he could master using both at the same time. That would be awesome.

  • 1.Minato

    2.Naruto ninetails mode

    3.Raikage

    4.Guy 8th gate

    5.Lee 8th gate

  • Don't forget Danzo Shimaru, he was also fast. Am I right? Or did he used some kind of teleportation justu?

  • @DragonDKLio Danzo hell no he could barely walk -_-

  • Tobi faster than Naruto 9 tails chakra mode? LOL.

  • @swifti1001 he is. he teleports remember.

  • @MGOWNER1 Tobi teleports? o_O

  • Naruto's bijuu mode is even faster then Minato himself!

  • i wont lie, that picture of minato sitting looks pretty bad ass.

  • Guys look the 4th and Tobi both use "jutsus"... so if your gonna go with physical spped. its Naruto , Raikage , Guy

  • Naruto is now the fastest ;]

  • @KingGolDragon well...you cant say that really cause we havn't seen tobi's speed yet,he didnt really even enter the battlefield yet,but for now it's safe to say he is. =]

  • @dbzownz12345 he fought against the 4th ^.^

  • @junnexgolem

    Dont giv info on ur opinion. U have no proof watsoever tht the previous raikage is fast. And its even been said in manga- minato is faster than the raikage!

  • @hotshotcooler94 minato's special ability is teleport.it is not speed. your argument is invalid.

  • First of all, tobi uses space-time ninjutsu. Thts not the same thing as speed. So he shudnt be here. Naruto actually uses his own speed with nine tails help(no jutsu) so hes actually fast. The 4th hokage is definitely the fastest, proven fact, but remember, his FTG is a teleportation jutsu, not speed. Also the 3rd raikage is definitely the second fastest.

  • @hotshotcooler94 Actually the 4th Raikage is the 3rd fastest. Minato and Naruto are both faster. Back when Naruto fought him, he got away only using his original Bijuu Mode, but now that they Kyuubi and him have merged chakras, he's even faster. Surpassing his father, whom was faster then Minato.

  • @hotshotcooler94 The 4th has a teleportation jutsu... ummm if tobi can't be here then the 4th can't be here either. So SPEED WITH REALLITY WISE WOULD BE : Naruto , Raikage , And GUY. ;]

  • Naruto is the fastest... and I'm not just saying that because he's the main character; I mean, have you seen him in his new state... No one is faster than Naruto.

  • guy sensei its better then raikage

  • lol in 0.34

  • tobi is fastest and naruto is 3rd fastest cause he has the 4th hokages jutsu

  • @xxconvictxx7 No he doesn't. And Tobi is probably 5th fastest.

  • @TheWolfBearer

    this is how it should be. 5: tsunade 4: sasuke 3: raikage 2: kyuubi naruto 1: tobi tobi is number one becasue he can just teleport anywhere in a second

  • @forgetthename16 Minato is faster,he was ftaser then him when they fought that day naruto was born,tsunade isnt even that fast..guy is faster then her lol... sasuke? He's not fast at all his jutsu's are dont mean he's fast.. the rest are ok :)

  • @dbzownz12345 Sasuke is faster than the Raikage who came 3rd in this ranking. When Sasuke and the Raikage are fighting, Sasuke is fast enough to slip out of the way and slip under the Raikage's attack and hit him in the chest with a chidori and the Raikage admits Sasuke is faster than him, if i remember right.

  • @TheFlamingChidori LOL the raikage never admitted that He even said to naruto that he WAS the second fastest in the world when minato was still alive btw raikage even wasn't at full speed he said only 2 people dodged it - minato and naruto now

  • @ShotsFTW Noone knows whether he was going at full speed or not. People claim he is. Though, looking up some forum posts on the internet, you may be right that Sasuke is not faster as people said that he was able to use his sharingan to predict the blow and then dodge it which gave him a bit of time, so maybe he isn't as fast as it appeared. And you're partially right on him not admitting it. Apparently he doesn't say he's faster, he just compliments Sasuke's speed.

  • @ShotsFTW But anyway, to round off what I was saying, (I ran out of space). Sasuke is not really faster than the Raikage, but due to his sharingan giving him more time to react to things, he is able to dodge things faster giving him more "speed in combat" if you know what i mean.

  • @dbzownz12345

    but that was a long time ago. and you cant tell me he didnt get any stronger in those 16 years. and yeah, i agree guy is faster. hes a beast. lol. and if sasukes jutsu is fast, doesnt that makes him fast? it is him doing it after all. i mean. what would you do if you were them. use your jutsu which is powerful, or use your fist which really dont do shit to anyone? cause everyone that gets punched gets back up. i didnt see anyone get up after a rasengan. lol.

  • @forgetthename16 lol well..you see guy vs kisame?... tell me how that works out when you see guy vs kisame,the second fight with only guy vs kisame and tell me that his punch did not knock him out?!?!... and lol as for sasuke I would use my fist,or sword atleast your showing you speed with using you wrists and not using your eyes,using youe eyes isnt really you being fast... I mean you can move you eyes fast,but you can be fast with them? If that made sense that give me a thumb up :p

  • @dbzownz12345

    ahaha people and there dumb comments. yes, i have seen that fight. guy is pretty fast. but i wouldnt say hes a match for anyone on my list. and for sasuke, why would you use your fist if you can catch them with your genjutsu. dont say its cheating or what ever, cause its the power he has. if his eyes are fast,which is a part of his bodie, it makes him fast.plus, his eyes are beyond fast.if he can keep up with raikage to block. then that answers your question,dont it?

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  • @dbzownz12345 btw you even saw it in this vid...wow..fail on both part's lol... Riakage vs sasuke amaterasu..

  • @dbzownz12345 if you seen the first amaterrasu he used,riakage dodged it like no 2marrow,it hit one of those samarui guys,he dodged it. If you want i can hook u up with alink 2 the fight and time so we can end this little convo,so i can GF you :)

  • @dbzownz12345

    was that supposed to be to me? lol. well yeah he blocked it. hes like the fastest character. i have watched the fight. and plus it wasnt his actual speed. im most certain he used a body flicker technique.i believe that is ninjutsu? so you cant say hes fast because he wasnt using his real strength. ;) am i wrong? ahahaha oh another thing, where did the other comment go you sent me? you must of removed it cause it made no sense. ahaha thought so..... :)

  • @forgetthename16 let's start off with that other comment,I mixed up some words and stuff was to excited that I was so close to ending this little online fight. I saw the fight myself,where did he use a body flicker jutsu? The only way he could have done that is marking sasuke like yondiame did killer bee... I didnt see that,when he came in close for the finisher he came in with speed,not a body flicker jutsu. If that were the case,sasuke would have died. I'm pretty sure he would used Lariat.

  • @dbzownz12345

    no.... im not arguing. stop replying to me please. your annoying. :)

  • @dbzownz12345 if you want to reply go ahead i'm blocking you,you win this little online fight,i dont care much just that it's getting rather annoying fighting over one topic now. So nice talking 2 ya m8 you can excuse my last comment if u want,that's your prob now. Continue watching Naruto and stay cool =]

  • @dbzownz12345

    really cool story bro..... you should tell it at parties and stuff.... >.> lol. and block me? go ahead. i wont have to deal with your self-centered comments then. and btw, did you really have to rephrase what i put? what a joke... just.. just.... turn off your computer, please. it would make everyones life more easier. :)

  • @dbzownz12345

    also why do you always reply to yourself, when talking to me?

  • @forgetthename16 Naruto's still faster. Naruto was moving so fast, Tobi couldn't react fast enough to faze or teleport through him.

  • fuck is brock lee?

  • 1st raikage, 2nd the previous raikage and 3rd minato. accordingly. i don't know where you got the idea that naruto(naruto's latest top speed is still to be rated), itachi, and tobi should be there

  • @junnexgolem Minato is faster then the raikage's, and naruto has attained speed similar to minato's while in Bijuu Mode.

  • Currently, going with the Manga, I have to say that it's an awesome tie between Minato and Naruto for the 1st place. Then we have Tobi, Raikage and either Itachi or Guy (after opening gates he rapes ass)

  • Naruto ties Minato in Kyuubi mode. He's seen using a Yellow Flash against the Raikage, Minato's speed technique. If Naruto were to unlock Kyuubi Mode and Toad Sage Mode at the same time, he'd be the fastest character the Narutoverse has ever seen!

  • Mminato Namikaze is the best character

  • @yyggjh He is actually faster than Minato now...

  • im the fastest im son gokou..

  • @destroyer19811 Son Goku is slower than all these characters

  • @dlj3cs2 he can cross the universe in a second -.-"

  • @poiklpoiuy1 cool story bro

  • @dlj3cs2 IKR? SSJ =D SSJ2 SSJ3 SSJ4 kamehamehas spirit bombs =D dbz is really a cool story thank you for agreeing

  • Zetsu is fast too , he attacked all the hokages so fast no one even noticed , and that was only his clone !

  • naruto is the fastest when he learns how to control the kyubbi and then kyubbi + sage mode=sage of the six paths so that makes him 1st

  • @222KINGforever naruto can't combine kyuubi mode and sage mode as stated in the manga. although he did so previously when face2face vs nagato momentarily. which make a contradictory, and is still to be settled by kishimoto-san

  • @junnexgolem Naruto can combine it, it's just that it'd take way too much time and energy. The reason he did versus Nagato was because he only used Initial Stage, which isn't alot of Kyuubi chakra, so he could gather quite a bit of nature energy to regulate it all out.

  • believe it or not, Zetsu's actually pretty fast (using his Mayfly technique). Although, not as fast as Minato, Naruto, A, etc

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  • Naruto is the fastest right now in the manga.. even kakashi mistook him for the fourth when he defected those tailed beast bombs.

  • Minato teleports therefore you cannot be faster than him. Still in short range the thinking time might make all the difference. To people who say Naruto "looks fast" , FGT dosent look anything because its too fast to be seen.

  • naruto, minato, 4th raikage, guy, 2nd hokage

    

  • 1. Minato

    2. Raikage

    3. Naruto

    4. Tobi

    5. My humpings

  • Raikage couldn't be faster than naruto because he dodged his own attack. Tobi uses transportation technique, he's a pussy, and so does Minato but he's a badass ;p Also Lee and Guy are the definition of FAST in Naruto

  • WHERE IS CHOJI!!!!!!!!!

  • In the end speed is judged how fast you do something.Meaning techniques count as well.Naruto is not the fastest even in his new kyuubi form -_-''.

  • 1.Naruto,since he now possess the kyuubi mode.(See Manga)

    2.Minato,Do doubt..That's why he called the Yellow Flash

    3.-4 I weather think between Tobi and the Raikage..

    5.Itachi

  • 5. Guy (We haven't seen his eight gates, but can probably beat Itachi) 4. Raikage Became the world's faster ninja after Minato died. 3. Minato (Fastest person in the world at the time) 2. Tobi (Minato himself said that Tobi beat him in speed, Minato was the fastest person in the world at the time.) 1. Naruto (He dodged Raikage at his fastest speed in the manga with his Kyuubi Mode, and he's deflected 5 tailed beast balls with his Merged KCM)

  • @TheBlackknight432 By not seeing his Eight gates, I meant Eighth gate* Sorry for the confusion.

  • We still don't know the power of Rikudo Senin probably he was fastest ninja only Masashi Kishi. know that

    The list should have been like this Bee,Raikage,Tobi,Minato,Naruto but without Rikudo senin we don't know it

  • @EpicNostra you cant include raikage because we have never seen him in person nor have we seen him to a jutsu. yes hes a legend but you cant argue anything abou him. and if you think bee is faster than Guy with 7th gate open you must have your head up your ass.

  • YO YOU ASSHOLES NARUTO KNOWS THE THUNGER GOD TECHNIQUE!

  • itachi is so fast with signs that kakashi and sasukes sharingan cant even see it now thats fast he can also move fast like when he tackles sasuke to the wall in their fight

  • minato was not fast. i say sasuke and itachi are fast. the other ninja are using jutsu to make then fast...minato. thunder god jutsu. thats how hes fast. without that. hes slow. raikage. full lighting body. naruto. 9tails fox power. tobi. teleport. but sasuke and itachi are nature fast.

    gai and lee are fast 2.

  • @enmymiguel get your facts right minato is naturally fast too buddy

  • @enmymiguel Minato is out of this world fast. What manga are you reading?? If you read the chapter where Tobi stole the Kyuubi from Kushina you'd see Minato's speed without teleportation. Read the chapter when Minato fought A (4th Raikage)... >.> He dominates with speed alone but if you add the symbol/kunai, then he is a god of speed.

  • @fiftyIceStates again hes fast cause hes jutsu make him fast. hes not a fast ninja. in the (A) fight. he use a seal teleport and kunai.and against tobi. kunai teleport. i think he call it thunder god level 2.

  • itachi and sasuke are way too slow to be ranked 1 naruto 2 minato (SPOILER)3 Madara combo first hokege(MAN HE IS A BITCH!!!) 4 raikage 5 tobi

  • @wilzusuku he's fast because he got the yellow flash's speed cause if the chakra minato gave him :) pls don't argue with me because it was almost said by Yamato in the ep where b try's to kill kisame

  • NARUTO IS ONLY FAST BECAUSE THE KYUUBI

  • Why is Naruto even on this list? Dodging a lariat does not mean he's really really fast. What about the resurrected Raikage who has the 1 finger lightning attack, Naruto would have died on the spot of that junin hadn't use the rubber ball jutsu to save him. If Naruto is so fast then no one should be able to hit him, even junin. Now compare all the people who can touch Naruto vs all the people that can touch ANY Raikage. Therefore dodging one attack is not proof of speed.