they are both the same darn company so none copied the other there the same guy!!!!!!!!!!! get to the credits in both games!!!!!!!!! NINTENDO IN BOTH CREDITS!
give the kid a break. for you all to be older than him (or what he was at the time) you guys sure are immature as hell if you're talking shit about a little kid. anyways, cool vid dude. although mario and zelda are both made by nintendo, I hadn't made the connections either till now. thanks.
Just out of pure curiosity, if you have OOT and it's guide book then wouldn't you have noticed on the Nintendo seal on both the game cartridge and the guide book? and everyone should back off of this guy, he was young back then but now he knows better
Play Mario RPG for the snes and you will see Link...At the INN in one of the towns(Forgot I havent played it in about 2 years so I dont remember which town)
I'm not younger than twelve anymore. I'm fifteen. The only reason this video has been kept up is the large view count and the small amount of money I'm getting from it.
I call bullshit. You're annotation says you were 10 at the time of this video (2010), which would make you only 12 NOW. Then you say you're fifteen now, meaning at the time of this video you were 13. Changing your lies only makes you seem more ignorant.
lol cool i geuss, but wow ya a lil refernce i was exspecting like mario ortoad talking about link or zelda or some thing some thing really cool well not a reall big deal but i knew what he was talking about soon as i seen them n others are right deku scrubs ar kinda like but looks more like those octa things
Who the fuck gives a shit. They are FUCKING VIDEO GAMES!!! stop harassing this kid he was like what 10 or 12, and you guys are like what in your 30s? Grow up and join the real world.
wow ya a lil refernce i was exspecting like mario ortoad talking about link or zelda or some thing some thing really cool well not a reall big deal but i knew what he was talking about soon as i seen them n others are right deku scrubs ar kinda like but looks more like those octa things
It's funny, because I know he was just a kid and all, but I started laughing when he said mario copied zelda(or the other way around). and the sad part is, I was born in 1997 like this kid, and I knew mario and zelda were both created by nintendo when I was seven(I LOVED the zelda seris, especially majora's mask, that was the first LoZ game I ever played)
not to be mean but zelda and mario were both made by nintendo and both were ideas of miyamoto so does it mater if they copied zelda plus they look like octa-rocks
YOU RETARD ZELDA AND MARIO ARE BOTH MADE BY NINTENDO SO THEY CAN'T STEAL SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER GAME UNLESS IT'S MADE BY A DIFFERENT COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!For example,Halo for PS3.AND YOU PRONOUNCED OCARINA WRONG!!!!!!!!
Man... there are some sad, lonely, and pretentious douche bags posting here. He's a kid... i really shouldn't have to proceed further than that, but some of don't seem capable of getting past that. Do you guys really need to jump down this kid's throat and insult him for something as insipid as saying they look like deku scrubs? Further more, judging from his screenname he was born '97... he probably wouldn't know Shigeru's connection to it all and... so what? Don't discourage a kid from
@NintendoInfoFlp Be that as it may, there is still no need to berate this person for his opinions right or wrong. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Don't be an asshole. And P.S. kid; I wouldn't be so quick to judge if I were you. Your grammar is atrocious. By your logic, I should bust your chops because you can't type a sentence in proper or even simple english. Does that sound pleasant?... No? Not knowing something is not evocative of a verbal beating.
@missadave I can, i do it all time on school. But i dont write *proper english* cause i dont care to do it when im home, how many on the Internett actually writes *proper english* huh?. And just as you know it im one the best in english in my class.
@NintendoInfoFlp If you're going to be quick to judge, then be prepared to take a harsh look in the mirror and some criticism from others. I'm not going to argue past this point with a 13 year old with a need to be pretentious punk. Just take your lumps and move on. Remember what mommy says,"If can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"... and brush up on your studies while you're at it.
@missadave i dont have to cause i dont care, and who said: there is still no need to berate this person for his opinions right or wrong? before you tell other what to do, do it yourself
and im done fighting with you. so dont even bother answering
@missadave I agree with you, since I'm in the same situation. I'm 11. (Shut up people, I don't care) I've watched a shit load of chuggaaconroy videos, and I've even been inspired to make LP's. After my dad gets me a damn capture card. But getting back to the point, if someone doesn't know about something: EXPLAIN IT NICELY!!! DON'T BE A DICK ABOUT IT!!! Anyway, I agree with you. And don't mind my language; I still don't care about it.
You can tell who copied who buy what game came out first if zelda oot came first then mario galaxy copied or if mario galaxy came first then zelda oot copied.
they are both the same darn company so none copied the other there the same guy!!!!!!!!!!! get to the credits in both games!!!!!!!!! NINTENDO IN BOTH CREDITS!
lolmariolink 4 days ago
@lolmariolink
Oh my fucking god... Look at the annotations! Read them!!! FUCKING READ THEM!!
gamefan1997 4 days ago
Well, for me they resemble octorocks.
Zologe 4 days ago
give the kid a break. for you all to be older than him (or what he was at the time) you guys sure are immature as hell if you're talking shit about a little kid. anyways, cool vid dude. although mario and zelda are both made by nintendo, I hadn't made the connections either till now. thanks.
NikkeiDS 5 days ago
I thought it looked more like an Octorok.
IAmACarMusic 5 days ago
its trully
sonicfanx7 6 days ago
nothing to see here guys,
if you want zelda referance search up MarioRPG
kenseisato1989 1 week ago
Nice Potato
kolapzo98 1 week ago
@kolapzo98 yea. an 11/12 year old should have much better recording equipment than that. -_-
NikkeiDS 5 days ago
Hey! A red light saber! Wait... That's the dislike bar...
TheEpicAxew 1 week ago 3
@TheEpicAxew
Oh look a shit comment from a shit youtuber
gamefan1997 1 week ago
@gamefan1997 look a whinny little kid... no surprise
ManDudeMcAwsome 4 days ago
how are you 15 if you were 10-12 back then and its only been two years so at most your either 12,13, or 14
masterbrawler196 1 week ago
@masterbrawler196 the video could be older than the upload date. Have you considered that option maybe?
NikkeiDS 5 days ago
is that an octorok
sonicwave779 1 week ago
dude.... this is old news... Mario came beofre Zelda ok? also yes FlimFable is right.
MichaelMMX1 1 week ago
lol spitting nuts at you XD
evilsylent 1 week ago
kinda looks like an octarock
greendorf900 1 week ago
They are more like those things in Skyward Sword that are on floating rocks in the sky that shoot at you, not a deku scrub!
TYGON371 2 weeks ago
how are you fifteen thats a lie you made this in 2010 you should be atleast 12
Soul999Eater 2 weeks ago 2
it kinda looks like an octorock or what ever that creature is.
koolkyle6115 2 weeks ago
if you were ten when you made this video you would be twelve now. But you said your 15 now. nice counting skillz
Wildman979 2 weeks ago
OP: "Maybe THIS will give it away..."
-image of wall-
-image of floor-
-image of feet-
Me: "Umm... Not giving it away yet.."
DrFeelGood6667 2 weeks ago
The likes and dislikes bar reminds me of a sith lightsaber
TheRobeGamer 2 weeks ago
don't be so harsh to the lil bro he was learning at this time through video was uploaded
sonicdudeguy1 2 weeks ago
You were 10 in the video but your 15? no you must be either 13 now or 12 before.
bigzeeffrocks 2 weeks ago
They do kind of look alike.
X80Yda1st 2 weeks ago
If yew are now 15, and yew were ten when yew made this. Then how was it put up in 2010?
That makes SMG about 7 years old. No yew would be about 12 if that was the case.
DeathlyRawr 3 weeks ago
They are made by the same creator idiot,look it up
CoolkidTheSecond 3 weeks ago
uh... you do know they were both made by nintendo...right?
DreamOfSong 3 weeks ago
o sure your 15
TheHomedog24 3 weeks ago
looks more like a pigmask from mother 3
patrontequila1234 3 weeks ago
but the one in mario spits watermelon u idiot and for god sake u dont know that they are made by the same developers!!! i feel sorry for u.......
nint3nd0gamer2000 3 weeks ago
good reference
DarkMaster879 3 weeks ago
they didn't copy they made the game zelda and mario
MrCallmeHAM 3 weeks ago
0:00 In this part, you can see Squidward Suicide :)
ridiculeando 3 weeks ago
it's spitting melons stupid :P
GodlikeGamersz 3 weeks ago
no its a octorock
manajay1999 4 weeks ago
both of the games were made by the same peopol
mkbasham84 4 weeks ago
they were made from the sme people
shadowdudeguy1 4 weeks ago
looks more like an octorok to me you know the squid looking thing that shoots rocks in the legend of zelda
purplegyrados 4 weeks ago
spitting nuts ha XD
silverwylecorey15 4 weeks ago
Just out of pure curiosity, if you have OOT and it's guide book then wouldn't you have noticed on the Nintendo seal on both the game cartridge and the guide book? and everyone should back off of this guy, he was young back then but now he knows better
yammagata183 1 month ago
it's not "copied zelda" if they're from the same creator...
UltimateAlienZ 1 month ago
so cute a lil boy trying to act like an adult awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww so precious!!!!!!!!!!!!
RosesandBlood19 1 month ago
if your 15
and this was ploaded when you were ten in 2010
how is that possible?
RobloWeird 1 month ago
@RobloWeird ... maybe he fuckin filmed it a year before he uploaded it
doodoo7771 1 month ago
I lost 2:11 of my life...
Wiwichus77 1 month ago
well it was made by the same person to ass hole
ssj4ricketts 1 month ago
you dumbass its an octorock
ssj4ricketts 1 month ago
a reference is tha the colorful stars from mario galaxy are the same than gratitude crystals
hotelsucks 1 month ago
First two seconds of this, and I turned it off.
SnakeEyeJoe 1 month ago
... I think... They have... A connection or some...thing... SIR. THEY ARE MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE?
PikachuGames 1 month ago
thats no deku shrub, it's a freakin octorok
TheOneGreatSaiyaman 1 month ago
this video was uploaded on january 2010 and we are on January 2012 (2 years difference) so if you were 10 on this video you must be 12 now not 15
if you are gonna lie, please check every detail (:
whosSmelly 1 month ago
Or it could be two octorocks
WesleyB1994 1 month ago
they didn't copy....they were made by the same company...ya'know nintendo?
xfly125 1 month ago
spit nuts at you xD i took that wrong XP
TriforceofAwesome5 1 month ago
it is cool I never noticed that plus I haven't played that game for year untill this month
Justin29822 1 month ago
IT'S NOT OAKRINA!!!! OCORINA!!! BELEBELRBELEBRLBELEBRLRBELRBLENB
Andrewwithpeace 1 month ago
Nice find :)
ACEmarcus12345 1 month ago
Octarock
LakuitaBro1559 1 month ago
Play Mario RPG for the snes and you will see Link...At the INN in one of the towns(Forgot I havent played it in about 2 years so I dont remember which town)
POkemon5809 1 month ago
This is what happens when you let a person younger than twelve do a reference vid
HyperSonic90001 1 month ago 12
@HyperSonic90001
I'm not younger than twelve anymore. I'm fifteen. The only reason this video has been kept up is the large view count and the small amount of money I'm getting from it.
gamefan1997 1 month ago
@gamefan1997 how could you be ten to fifteen in two years
mrpokefan154 1 month ago
@gamefan1997 I quite doubt you're getting money from this.
Also, large views don't count with a 75% thumbs down don't really count that much.
Cute that OOT is probably the oldest Zelda game you've played. XD Oh, you kids these days and your rehashes!
Syntachu 4 weeks ago
@gamefan1997 You made money off this?!
amtojtojboy 3 weeks ago
@gamefan1997 that was 2 years ago you cant go from 11 to 15...
SparkzkCola 3 weeks ago
@gamefan1997
I call bullshit. You're annotation says you were 10 at the time of this video (2010), which would make you only 12 NOW. Then you say you're fifteen now, meaning at the time of this video you were 13. Changing your lies only makes you seem more ignorant.
DROWNEDTones 2 weeks ago
@gamefan1997 "I'm not younger than twelve anymore. I'm fifteen."
Um... You aged 3 years in 2 years? Odd...
DrFeelGood6667 2 weeks ago
@HyperSonic90001 May we remind you it was done two years ago. You failed.
X80Yda1st 2 weeks ago
i hve the zelda collecters edition 2 :)
SkywardSwordFB20 1 month ago
Wauw
EmilMacko 1 month ago
In Super Mario 3D land there is a whole level based of Legend of Zelda
Also, It had sound effects from Zelda as well.
MetaKniteRulesBrawl 1 month ago
Are you serious? Mario and zelda are created by the SAME FRICKIN GUY! Miyamoto will hunt you...
FlimZable 1 month ago 18
@FlimZable may i ask u to use the gaming god's full name
Shigeru Miyamoto
TriforceofAwesome5 1 month ago
Well Shigeru Miyamoto is the creator of both Super Mario series and the Legend of Zelda Series
So it would be natural that there would be some sort of connections inbetween the games.
RuinerXP 1 month ago
Actually its an octorock, but all nintendo games are connected, confirmed with Super Smash Bros Brawl.
Charged011 1 month ago
shut up.
MrWIZ9000 1 month ago
I thought those things were from the original Zelda, those red enemies shooting stuff at you.
Ya know, the 1st Zelda? The pixelated one? Yup. Those red things that shoot stuff at you.
iAlphaOnGraal 1 month ago
@bigger819 So... He is only a kid. Leave him aloa. jerk.
danin10donerd 1 month ago
Give him a break people, god. He is just a kid.
danin10donerd 1 month ago
no dur the have a connection there made by the same company -_- (face palm) Mario = Nintendo
zelda= Nintendo id they want to put the 2 games into each other they can
megameep12 1 month ago
@megameep12 he obviosly found a connection once and was suprised about it so he only wanted to show it off so leave him be, dick.
theonlytruemeaning 1 month ago
OMG!!!!....no
WithRainyEyes93 1 month ago
god kid your hands are shaky as fuck
phunkyzilla 1 month ago
...OH KID...NO WONDER WHY YOU WERE BORN IN 1997
danielfenix831 1 month ago
i feel like smacking this kid (not really).
SLManiaInc 1 month ago
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SLManiaInc 1 month ago
Hey dude the some guy made Zelda and mario
smasherman123 1 month ago
lol cool i geuss, but wow ya a lil refernce i was exspecting like mario ortoad talking about link or zelda or some thing some thing really cool well not a reall big deal but i knew what he was talking about soon as i seen them n others are right deku scrubs ar kinda like but looks more like those octa things
Jonicvsmario 1 month ago
young and stupid like now
bigger819 1 month ago
Who the fuck gives a shit. They are FUCKING VIDEO GAMES!!! stop harassing this kid he was like what 10 or 12, and you guys are like what in your 30s? Grow up and join the real world.
MrVault87 1 month ago
They're just like the things in SS what about that! Yeah those look similar to the thing that pop out of the ground in Skyward Sword.
493pokefan 1 month ago
wow ya a lil refernce i was exspecting like mario ortoad talking about link or zelda or some thing some thing really cool well not a reall big deal but i knew what he was talking about soon as i seen them n others are right deku scrubs ar kinda like but looks more like those octa things
DPSpade4ever 1 month ago
A Deku Scrub
mariosonic2233 1 month ago
spitting nuts at u
rigbone9000 1 month ago
I can't beleive it, a frikin child noticed the octorok reference before me. I am not a true gamer T.T
DeltaMetroid1 1 month ago
If anything they're octorocks, they look more like squids.
Dethenger 1 month ago
It's funny, because I know he was just a kid and all, but I started laughing when he said mario copied zelda(or the other way around). and the sad part is, I was born in 1997 like this kid, and I knew mario and zelda were both created by nintendo when I was seven(I LOVED the zelda seris, especially majora's mask, that was the first LoZ game I ever played)
RealityCheck319 1 month ago
@DRAGON6076i thought they were octorocks too
kyky41801 1 month ago
I agree with you
soulsilvertano 1 month ago
lol there both Nintendo.
TheRodriguezFilms 1 month ago
octorok
DRAGON6076 1 month ago
zelda and mario were made by the same person
9TDF 1 month ago
Lol, Nintendo created both Mario AND Zelda.
112SUPERMARIO 1 month ago
@missadave I agree ten fold my good sir/madam
fableteller98 1 month ago
God alot of hate comments u people need to get a life he just pointing it out that they are similar
fableteller98 1 month ago
in skyward sword the octorocks looks like the ones in this video
363cabrineitor393 1 month ago
stupid kid you better shut up before i spit my nuts in your moms face
MDJONES64 1 month ago
not to be mean but zelda and mario were both made by nintendo and both were ideas of miyamoto so does it mater if they copied zelda plus they look like octa-rocks
desmonfireice1 1 month ago
I always thought they looked more like Octorocks from the first game than Deku Scrubs.
acemrawesome 1 month ago
this is kind of interesting. they could also be like the octorok's. the things that also spit some kind of hard thingy. but they are in water
omegadragon1000 1 month ago
your a fucking faggot ass piece of fucking dog scrotum you sweaty chode. go fuck yourself scum
stratisfire 1 month ago
@stratisfire What do you all day then? Your just a lazy ass that sits around and makes videos of things that will give you diahrea.
xGRUNTxB3ASTx 1 month ago
He's just a kid who made a mistake people. Get the fuck over it. Move on with your shitty lives.
zerfus1 1 month ago
how did you not know both zelda and mario was made by nintendo. i knew that when i was 5. not that hard to get kid
MultiKrage 1 month ago
1:44 wtf man?
MrErakl 1 month ago
OCTOROCS
JCMELKOR 1 month ago
I love easter eggs
JCMELKOR 1 month ago
Dude @gamefan1997 what fucking company made both games nintendo!!!!! And why not save money use the same outline for both creatures
Utefan243 1 month ago
yay, i was born in 97 too!
RPGheroo 1 month ago
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Troxxity 1 month ago
As was i
MrNintendoStation 1 month ago
It actually looks more like an octorock
StarBreaker987 1 month ago
@StarBreaker987 more like... Octorcock olololololololololololololololololol!!!!!11!!!1223!!!one!!
ghostofgeek 1 month ago
It's ok dude. I was born in '97 too. Ignore these fucking assholes.
StealthShooter1029 1 month ago
@StealthShooter1029 No poon for you.
ghostofgeek 1 month ago
@ghostofgeek LOL
StealthShooter1029 1 month ago
To bad I can't use a CONTROLLER to play either of these games.
eldatri 1 month ago
Good eye, but they actually look like a Octorock
OcultoyParanormal 1 month ago
you see, it resembles an octorok alot more than it does a deku scrub. well, physical appearance-wise o.o
GreatTimevideos 1 month ago
lol its a deku scrub xD
SheakuKente 1 month ago
I was actually quite intrigued. :)
I haven't played any of the Mario games, so I found this interesting. Thanks for posting it! ^^
CinderOfMoonPack 1 month ago
I get where this kids coming, so go easy on him its an easy mistake seeing as there have been references of mario in old zelda games.
BoyOffTheTingg 1 month ago
Both games are made by Nintendo, you Tard
Darknight7654 1 month ago
YOU RETARD ZELDA AND MARIO ARE BOTH MADE BY NINTENDO SO THEY CAN'T STEAL SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER GAME UNLESS IT'S MADE BY A DIFFERENT COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!For example,Halo for PS3.AND YOU PRONOUNCED OCARINA WRONG!!!!!!!!
choujixxx 1 month ago
@choujixxx wow, talk about getting mad about nothing...
ScaryFrog 1 month ago
@choujixxx Wow dude, watch the blood pressure
LGDXJawsdakiller 1 month ago
it looks like an octorock
torchic2002 1 month ago 27
Naww DIP. Dude of course they have a connection. Mario and Zelda are both fucking made by Fucking shigeru fucking miyamoto. Naww DIP.
TheMariowebcam 1 month ago
an Octarok would fit better.....>___>
HanerTheHedgehog 1 month ago
Mario and Zelda were both made by the same person
dopeman459 1 month ago
I'm 11, but I think that deku scrubs and octorocks mutated when they went to mario world and those ere made!!!!
Sonicemon2789 1 month ago
you sound like my brother
SlasherV8 1 month ago
considering hes like 8 years old ill excuse him from filming with a potato but it looks more like the moon from zelda majoras mask then a deku scrub
MrChewiekid00 1 month ago
ur mom givin me head thats wat it looks like to me
joshmexicano24 1 month ago
looks more like an octorock if im honest
TheJaCkObOii 1 month ago
There probably is a connection but they didn't copy each other because they are both nintendo games
CorvetteLover96 1 month ago
Atleast he likes Nintendo. Douche kids today only like PS3. (though I have all 3 systems) Nintendo is close to us all.
YoshiLover122 1 month ago
"I think they have a connection or something" XD
RichardthePWNman 1 month ago
I thought the thing in front of mario is Squidward
Weegeeisgoingtokillm 1 month ago
did you film this with a potato?
5krillMau5 1 month ago
so what it if they did mario and link are from the same creator dumbass
awsumpops 2 months ago
Actually It looks like an electro goomba. Deku Scrubs, have longer legs, big bushy leaf afros. Close though.
MastahAzumek 2 months ago
He's just trying to make a frickin point. It's kinda funny that the creator would put references in 2 different games
truckingbabe1 2 months ago
All of you talking shit to a child on the internet, fuck off. Seriously, let him have fun.
DasRaskalKing 2 months ago
technicly it is not copying if it is in a nintendo game it is an referance
shadowcyndaquill 2 months ago
let him have his fun and fuck off. He's not hurting anyone.
missadave 2 months ago 12
posting just because you feel better for having chastised a child for making a simple mistake about a VIDEO GAME.
missadave 2 months ago
Man... there are some sad, lonely, and pretentious douche bags posting here. He's a kid... i really shouldn't have to proceed further than that, but some of don't seem capable of getting past that. Do you guys really need to jump down this kid's throat and insult him for something as insipid as saying they look like deku scrubs? Further more, judging from his screenname he was born '97... he probably wouldn't know Shigeru's connection to it all and... so what? Don't discourage a kid from
missadave 2 months ago 27
@missadave i was born in 98 and i know more than him + i have an N64 and that kid doesnt not that Nintendo made both games
NintendoInfoFlp 1 month ago
@NintendoInfoFlp Be that as it may, there is still no need to berate this person for his opinions right or wrong. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Don't be an asshole. And P.S. kid; I wouldn't be so quick to judge if I were you. Your grammar is atrocious. By your logic, I should bust your chops because you can't type a sentence in proper or even simple english. Does that sound pleasant?... No? Not knowing something is not evocative of a verbal beating.
missadave 1 month ago
@missadave I can, i do it all time on school. But i dont write *proper english* cause i dont care to do it when im home, how many on the Internett actually writes *proper english* huh?. And just as you know it im one the best in english in my class.
NintendoInfoFlp 1 month ago
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missadave 1 month ago
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missadave 1 month ago
@NintendoInfoFlp If you're going to be quick to judge, then be prepared to take a harsh look in the mirror and some criticism from others. I'm not going to argue past this point with a 13 year old with a need to be pretentious punk. Just take your lumps and move on. Remember what mommy says,"If can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"... and brush up on your studies while you're at it.
missadave 1 month ago
@NintendoInfoFlp seriously... you should review what you've posted. It's pretty funny how bad your spelling and grammar is...
missadave 1 month ago
@missadave i dont have to cause i dont care, and who said: there is still no need to berate this person for his opinions right or wrong? before you tell other what to do, do it yourself
and im done fighting with you. so dont even bother answering
NintendoInfoFlp 1 month ago
@missadave I agree with you, since I'm in the same situation. I'm 11. (Shut up people, I don't care) I've watched a shit load of chuggaaconroy videos, and I've even been inspired to make LP's. After my dad gets me a damn capture card. But getting back to the point, if someone doesn't know about something: EXPLAIN IT NICELY!!! DON'T BE A DICK ABOUT IT!!! Anyway, I agree with you. And don't mind my language; I still don't care about it.
CrimsonDragon298 1 month ago
OMG!!!! Zelda and Mario are connected! (sarcasm)
dumbass zelda and mario are both created by shigeru miyamoto so duh therre are gonna be referances and EasyPeege is right its an octorok referance
raitosonozaki 2 months ago
@raitosonozaki He's a kid and it's funny you call him a dumbass when obviously you are an illiterate fuck. Go back to watching your smosh videos
flossy411 1 month ago
I think they look a bit more like octorocks than deku scrubs.
stalchild15 2 months ago
You can tell who copied who buy what game came out first if zelda oot came first then mario galaxy copied or if mario galaxy came first then zelda oot copied.
alexandergful 2 months ago