A couple of misrepresenatations of what Hovind has said, not much else. BTW does ANYBODY here know what process could have formed the geologic column?
(I've read everything wikipedia has to say on sedimentology and strata)
Layers are laid in flood, sand storms, earthquakes, not ever annually of one layer every million years So yes all the layers we see are from flood strata.
@warriorprince1010 Absolute nonsense. Coconino Sandstone is formed by desert, Tillite is formed by glaciers, desert varnish is formed by exposure to the air. Why are they between other rock layers?
@InternetDarkLord Sandstone came from a beach as has been proven. Till is merely unsorted sediment and could have come during the flood. Till is evidence for a flood as it is unsorted. It goes against an annual formation. Varnished rocks would be expected to be found at deifferent depths had a global flood moved massive amounts of rocks from one place to another. All supports the flood.
@warriorprince1010 Bull SHIT, the Cocoino sandstone was deposited by deserts. Hike the Grand Canyon someday and ask.
Till is piled up by glaciers, not water.
Desert varnish 300 years thick is between rock layers.
Calcite releases 11,290 joules when it hardens, if limestone several miles thick deposited, it would boil away the entire ocean with 5,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules, plus magma hardening and Meteor Impacts adding more. The sea would vaporize.
@InternetDarkLord The sandstone on the grand canyon was probably from abeach ehcne the amphibian foot prints in it. Varnished rocks takes around 300 years...then a flood came and covered it with other rocks. Limestone again was covered by the flood which laid sediment on top of it. Flood strata fits.
@warriorprince1010 No, the Coconino Sandstone has footprints of scorpions, millipedes, isopods, spiders, reptiles, and they show loping, running, and galloping gaits only possible on land, plus wind and raindrop impressions not formed underwater.
Varnished rock is BETWEEN other layers, explain that.
On a young earth, where did miles of limestone even come from? And limestone is sedimentary, that bull shit proves sedimentary rock does not need the flood at all, so there's no evidence a flood.
@InternetDarkLord Coconino Sandstone has amphibian footprinits in them. Never heard of the scorpions footpirints in them. The slopes are from a beach, obviously. As we have shown the data we see is flood strata.
@warriorprince1010 Hike the Grand Canyon and look! I have been to the river and back four times! There are many animal footprints, made on dry land. And if that is a beach, where the hell are all the fossil seashells? Did Noah remove them all? And you have shown NO DATA art all.
@InternetDarkLord They are Amphibian footprints made under water and on a beach. I have not heard of scorpion footprints, even evolutionists have not mentioned it. Amphibians do not live in deserts. There is no evidence for annual layer sbeing laid every 1 million years, none. Sediment or large movements in sand are made by water or wind, not annually. Science is happy with creation, so am I.
@warriorprince1010 The scientists of the world believe in Evolution and Deep Time. For example, the National Park Service website has a Grand Canyon Geology section, including all the footprints I mentioned, and photographs showing some. Many kinds of sedimentary rock are not formed by water. Other kinds like limestone cannot form at the speed you fanatic religion requires. Have they invented the steam engine in the century you live?
@warriorprince1010 Science accepts evolution, and it is not an accident either. Name all the state or Ivy league Universities that accept creationism as a fact.
@warriorprince1010 You're just a dishonest propaganda monkey, why do you bother debating? No evidence will ever convince you because of your massive confirmation bias. You're just wasting the time of people who otherwise would be learning about science and bettering humankind. If people like you had your way we'd still think the earth was flat.
@warriorprince1010 Till is an abandoned glacial erosion sediment - this is evidenced by it being unsorted (because it is simply dumped by the glacier - where as floods lead to graded bedding as it drops the largest clasts first) and unstratified and the clasts themselves being angular and often featuring striae or other signs of glaciation. None of these processes occur due to a flood.
@warriorprince1010 Ok prove it then? For yourself I suggest you read the entry from Britannica Encyclopedia on till (you just have to type it into google and it comes up ;) ) as my source. Please give me a source with an example of "flood till".
@InternetDarkLord the fact that we are alive and living on top of the over 100 million cubic miles of layered sediments that buried almost everything living on earth proves that not only that there was a flood but we survived the flood.
@JungleJargon No, because it does not require ONE GLOBAL FLOOD, many bodies of water over time explain it.
2. You never explained the intense heat. Explain please.
3. Many kinds of rock layers, including sedimentary, are not formed by water: tillite by glaciers, Coconino Sandstone by deserts, desert varnish by exposure to the air. Why are they between the other layers?
4. Where the hell was all that sediment before the Imaginary Flood? Sediment can only deposit if it erodes somewhere else.
@InternetDarkLord The layered sediments of the Grand Canyon go down over a mile deep. You failed to explain where those sediments all came from and the rest of the sediments around the world on every other continent including Antarctica.
@JungleJargon I did explain, the earth is over 4 billion years old, the Vishnu Schist formed about 1.4 billion years ago. READ SOMETHING, YOU SCIENCE IDIOT!
Then, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS! Are you 5 years old or retarded?
@InternetDarkLord It is the geology books that are in question. They never explained where the over 100 million cubic miles of uniform consecutive layers of micro sedimentation came from.
All matter is derived from hydrogen which is an essential working part that is ordered inside of us requiring a very great Maker.
@JungleJargon YES, geology books do explain how rock layers form. And rock layers cannot form all at once due to the heat of formation. Limestone (calcite) releases 11,290 joules per gram as it hardens. The miles of limestone worldwide would release 5,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy, plus the magma hardening, plus Meteor Impacts would vaporize the ocean, the ark, the atmosphere....get the point?
@InternetDarkLord You cannot tell me anything until you account the origin of over 100 million cubic miles of uniform layers of micro sediments and how they came to cover everything that was living on earth.
@JungleJargon The earth is about 4,5000,000 years old, layers have been deposited by water and wind over the eons. READ A GEOLOGY BOOK!!! Have you ever read one geology book?
InternetDarkLord Many creationists take Isaiah 65:25, which says that "the lion will eat straw like the bull", to mean that lions once ate grass, and since Genesis states that God gave the animals green vegetation to eat, this idea seems well biblically supported. However, since fossil cats have sharp teeth, this presents a problem for the Design Argument:
WHAT KIND OF STUPID DEITY DESIGNS
A GRASS EATER WITH SHARP TEETH AND A SHORT GUT?!!!
Some creotards have claimed that all animals were vegetarians before Noah's Farce, Genesis 1, verse 30, but sometimes fossil carnivores still have prey inside their stomachs.
Sorry bro, but you didnt debunk anything. Debunking is when you disprove something. All you did was rattle off what you have been taught that conrtasts what this guy is teaching. Thats not debunking that is a difference of opinion. And you were making fun of him for lack of critical thinking. SERIOUSLY
This is so funny. Anything is possible in a few million years. That's basically the story of evolutionists. Every time this guy says # million years ago I just laugh. Yeah... he was there. Hope people realize that all this is just a story to satisfy observations. Its not any more valid than creationists scientists statements except for the fact scientists love their naturalistic stories
@semitope okay then, so in the future if your car is stolen or home is robbed no one is going to bother investigating it for you. I mean, you weren't there when it happened, so you can't prove you've been robbed. What? Evidence? That's just a story to satisfy your observations, you silly goose.
@Beyondisme weak logic, typical of an evolutionist/atheist. Your analogy would be more accurate if you said you couldn't conclusively claim who robbed me without video evidence. Knowing I was robbed is the same as knowing we exist, trying to figure out how requires assumptions
@semitope weak logic is assuming you have to have been there to prove it. There's a little thing called conclusive evidence. When you have it it tends to prove you right. And in the case of geology . . . creationists lose. They lose hard.
Also, what's an evolutionist? I've heard of evolutionary biologist, and even rational thinkers (Christians and religious folk among them) who accept evolution as a natural phenomena, but evolutionist is a term of creationist origin.
@Beyondisme Ahhh you know the old saying you can lead a creationist to water, but no matter how hard you try explain they don't walk on water, they always end up drowning.
@Boudiga There actually was a Christian preacher in Africa who claimed he could walk on water because he had enough faith in Christ. He gathered his entire congregation at a local stretch of beach along the ocean, and they all watched as he walked into the water and was never seen again. Sad and strange as that sounds it's a true story too.
lol "creationist geology" for someone who believes that rock that apparently took billions of years to form, was created in an instant in the way it looks, is someone who will A. believe anything B. not believe anything based on evidence.
This goes for all scientific studies in relation to creationist minds.
many floods have occured throughout history and had you been living on the banks of the black sea when it was breeched by the mediterrainian it would seem biblical to you. to think the flood once deposited clams on the summit of everest just goes to show the mis information propergated by the main stream media, in order to achieve this their would have to be 4 to 5 times the amount of water we have on the earth today
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@TonyWilkesAyalew DNA tests can prove inbreeding. Insular japan has higher levels of Xeroderma Pigmentosum, Congenital total Color Blindness, Tay-Sachs Disease, Ichthyosis, etc, than the USA, because it has a higher level of inbreeding.
Test also show that cheetahs are inbred in the wild.
Some parthenonogenetic lizards are female populations.
@TonyWilkesAyalew Which fish lived through the flood, the saltwater fish in the rain water or the fresh water fish in the salty ocean? Or did they all die in the muddy water?
@TonyWilkesAyalew Would you actually like to look at the science that directly debunks the flood myth? It's fairly simple involving only a few disciplines: chemistry, physics, and math. All we need do is look at one little rock formation, run the numbers, and presto! Noah's Flood is falsified in one shot. To further drive home the nails in the coffin for the myth? Look at all the rest of the similar formations and their mates all over the world. What it comes down to? Genesis is not literal.
You have no idea of what you are talking about and you did not even explain where all of the strata came from. Start with the origin of the strata that contains all of the buried fossils.
@Seekmosttoprophesy He covered a variety of topics in only six minutes. If you want explanations of strata, go to Potholer54debunks' channel and watch his videos about the Flood.
Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
Funny. If you caught your 4-year-old nephew sucking his thumb and talking to his invisible, super-powered friend you'd just smile, shake your head and hope he grows out of it soon. When this same behaviour is carried over into adult life were expected to take it seriously and show respect for the person's "religious beliefs".
Funny. Christians using cutting-edge graphics in order to depict the 'true scientific facts' backing-up their chosen fairy-tale. If you went back in time and asked the Disciples the shape of the world, all would tell you it was flat. The Bible is a collection of stories designed to disseminate a uniform moral code amongst mostly illiterate tribal audiences living halfway around the world over a thousand years ago. It ain't a science book. Don't take it so literally.
You and your evil science priests are wrong! Anyone with a brain could tell that the grand canyon was carved by the tears of baby jesus because you touch yourselves at night. Herp de derp!
Creation minute is meant to be simplified and not very detailed in order to draw you into the details later. The Hovinds offer entire college courses chock full of facts serving as limiting factors that completely DEBUNK evolution. I am not seeing any debunking of anything in this video, may YHWH remove the veil covering your eyes in the name of Jesus Christ. Your creator is knocking and your heart is hardened. Wake up and realize how badly deceived you have been.
@christiantmcguire Debunking evolution? That's like debunking the fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid that rotates around the sun in an elliptical orbit. God fearing people didn't wanna accept that fact either. It's funny how they act like science is an enemy but they praise god for there achievements.
@eastsidewillyb Most pre-modern cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including ancient Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Ancient Near East until the Hellenistic period, Ancient India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD) and China until the 17th century. It was also typically held in the cultures of the New World until the time of European contact. Seems to me like NON God Fearing people believed that too, anything else smartie?
@christiantmcguire Yeah, but non god fearing people weren't the ones throwing people in jail for saying that the earth rotates the sun. You missed that point didn't you?
@eastsidewillyb I'll accept that response upon proof that NON God fearing people did NOT throw people in jail for that reason as well. Otherwise its just foolish to bicker back and forth due to your lack of understanding of both sides of the issue your attempting to create. To label oneself a Christian does not make oneself a true believer in Christ, I'm sure many people who labeled themselves Christians through history did many despicable acts as did non Christians, it is all separate from God.
@christiantmcguire Okay, I do agree with that, but still it was wrong to deny that the earth rotates around the sun just as it is wrong to deny that evolution is real. It's the same way of taking good science and disregarding it due to blind faith.
@eastsidewillyb Its also wrong to deny people freedom of speech, put em in jail for talking truth, bringing them into siberia, killing tens of millions of your own countrymen, lie to the masses about the leader of the country etc. And thats what atheists are all about, they are mass murderers.
You are generalizing all christians into catholicism. So i guess i can call atheists, stalinists?
@shlukh I do think that people are good people or bad people regardless of what religion they are or even if they have religion at all. Most of what gives someone morals is how they were raised and the community they grew up in. I could easily bring up Hitler, the crusades, 911 hijackers, the salam witch trials as all examples of people trying to do gods work that ended up bad.
@eastsidewillyb I believe in the Lordship of Jesus Christ and that the Bible is the word of God. All the religious institutions are made by man and not perfect. Not even one christian is perfect by far. But God is perfect and demands perfect obidience to His law. After all, you will have to answer to God, being measured by His standard, not mine, or your own, or anyone else.
You can spend your life pointing out flaws in different christians, but it will bring you nowhere. God is still sovereign
@shlukh Yeah, I get that, but what if I told you that my standards are much higher. There's nothing in the bible against rape or slavery but I would never support either. Not to mention that I don't think I can just be forgiven for something that easy. So if I do something wrong I can't just take a bath and feel a false sense of forgiveness. I have different standards thou cuz I don't think there's anything wrong with cursing god. F**K god. But not lower standards by any means.
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
The Bible is full of instances, where Jesus is speaking to the religious crowd and refutes their false security in their prayers and rules and knowledge. And in the end its the people who claimed to be closest to God, who killed Jesus. Its a big hint from God
If anything, this just shows how unwilling creationists are to even acknowledge hard evidence. The arguments in this video come from introductory geology material, the basics, and may as well be regarded as a fact. Decades of hard work, the life work of some individuals, in geology being dragged through the mud, misconstrued and used as creationist propaganda makes me sick. If it all boils down to morality in the end, I see nothing moral in defaming someone's life work.
most liekly flood legends come from end of the iceage when sea level rise. meny cultures have legends of floods but some do not. only those who have conecton to sea or rivers have flood legends.
@gooddarkjedi That's one possibility. There's also the independent reality that floods are devastating and naturally occurring. A simple flood resulting from, say, a tsunami would be more than enough to be the basis of a myth.
@onijester56 I think a more likely possibility is that the flood is ENTIRELY a myth invented by ancient nomads who saw fossilized fish skeletons and seashells high in the mountains and didn't know how else to account for them so they started telling heroic tales and the story eventually became exaggerated to the flood myth.
@jdh501 It's possible that it is completely mythical. Though my experience tends to reveal that myths are generally based on observable/logical events that are spread and 'mythicized" (sp?).
To use the "heroic tales", there is a historically-documented 'B/Gilgamesh, King of Ur'. It wouldn't be too far of a stretch that he befriended a Warrior/King from another kingdom and became a better ruler because of him.
And the Greco-Roman flood/deluge myth as-presented-by-Ovid is "interesting"...
@jdh501 Hmmm nice hypothesis. Makes me wonder because your hypothesis could be a possibility. If that hypothesis where true I wonder if those who had came up with the great flood hypothesis could of been the heretic scientists of their day.
@robvlob I think my explanation makes perfect sense, and the Biblical literalists have been doing their verbal backflips and making complete jackasses out of themselves trying to apply science to a myth ever since. If those nomads I described were not the world's first scientists (as you say) then maybe they were the world's first "pwn" artists.
@jdh501 Well actually they probably wouldn't have been called scientists maybe sorcerers witches or some other pre-Judea religions idea of an evil being.
What's ironic if science is so wrong and for the most part isn't trying to disprove any god(s) why do the Christians try to disprove it by being dishonest breaking a commandment in the process which is publishable in their religion by being sent to hell. If they truly believed their religion they wouldn't dishonestly try to debunk science.
@robvlob Maybe religious belief is produced in the same part of the brain which produces emotion, and that causes believers to put reason on the back shelf where it can be safely ignored.
This doesn't really "debunk" anything...it just sounds like some atheist/agnostic who's proud to be a jackass to the creationist community and make a video about it. The poor quality of the arguments in this video actually only help out the creationists.
Hey, this is great. One more thing I noticed. If EVERYONE died in the flood. Is it possible that 2 people were able to reproduce 6 Billion in less than 5000 years? In David Christian's, 'Maps of Time' it says that the earths population 5000 years before the present was doubling at a rate of once every 1,635 years (The population was 50 million then). It is, given the history of population, mathematically impossible. I find it hard to beleive people take this 'Hovind' guy seriously.
@NuklearSkare Mass re-population by just 2 people = happy times. Not only do people take "my name is Kent" seriously, they even believe his incarceration is a government conspiracy to suppress the truth! FEAR: freehovind{dot}com/petition/signatures-page-160
I agree with the dubunking. And for once, I'll even give creationists credit for the flood story. Because there is written history of a flood (The Epic of Gilgamesh, etc.), its only because of the melting of ice age glaciers that many coastel areas and rivers became flooded. We tend to forget that our early ancestors lived next to coastel bodies of water and rivers. Some areas receded, and some areas were washed away for ever.
You wait, in the future theists will add noah's tale to the list of things that should bot be read literally in the bible. It seems this is quite a normal thing for theists to do, when something because so absurd that they themselves can't defend it, it gets relegated to "metaphor" status.
Yes, those thick layers of sedimentary rock and huge mountains on Mars are the result of a worldwide flood sent to the Martians because they sinned. Only they didn't even have a "Noah" to save Mart-ianity and Martian animals in a gigantic ark. So they all died.
If you think 5 seconds, you realise they debunk their own theory... This guy sais "canyons --> global flood". That's quite contradictory. If a flood were to be global, it wouldn't cut through a part of land, it would erode all the land. A longlasting global flood would erode chunks of the same rock equally fast...
Basically he's saying: "Look, a flat part of land, that means there was a glacier there!"
I'm watching right now on the History channel about the formation of Mnt. Everest. It's hilarious how the YECs distort real science to fit their narrow minded world view.
"Scientists find massive erosion effects all around the world."
WOW! Seriously? Does this even NEED debunking? I mean... really... it is clear that they don't understand ANYTHING of how different geological features are formed.
... to mean that the earth is only 6000 years old from the date that passage was written, or between 8000-10000 years old. This corresponds closely with the beginning of human civilization. It's a clear sign of humanities arrogance to think that "the world" began with humanity. Either that, or people misunderstand the real meaning of those passages.
The flooding myths are more than likely from the end of the first ice age when, because of the planet defrosting, there would have been a lot of flooding, and the first human civilizations formed shortly after that. Interestingly enough, some people point to the part in Genesis; "So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation", And the other passage, "A day with the lord is as a thousand years with man" to mean that...
I doubt that "the lord" sees literally one day as 1000 years because in order to do that he would have to either be approaching the speed of light, or outside of time alltogether (what many christians i have talked to claim) ... in which case he wouldnt simply see time in just that one way, he would be able to see it in any way. And if he can percieve time in any way he pleases, why confuse us with strange wording like that? because we all agree that the bible is the written word of god right?
Regarding many cultures with flood myths: humans tend to set up tribes, cities, and civilizations near lakes and rivers, which tend to flood. Primitive people have no idea how big the world is, so it only takes a regional flood to convince them that the whole world must have flooded. Plus, without written records, stories would get passed down orally, and just like with Telephone, they become exaggerated over time.
did you read my mind or copy a post of mine LOL. this is something ive been saying for years. its a matter of perspective, and the perspective of the time was very limited, evidenced that these tales were written 6000 years before anyone even figured out the world wasnt flat.
the fact that 270+ cultures recorded it does suggest a flood, i doubt it was spread by traders because back then, Europeans and Chinese were unaware of each others existence, im pretty sure that Europeans didn't even know anything existed beyond Afghanistan. btw, im not proving the flood happened, im just debunking your 1st point.
Kalahridudex, most people, even today, live in a flood plane. Thus, it is natural for most people to invent flood myths. Check your brain, I think it is turned off.
@Kalahridudex - might be because each of those cultures that wrote of a flood probably experienced a flood. Most of us have seen, heard or been in floods in our own lifetime. In other words -- just because they had stories of floods, doesn't mean that it happened over the entire planet at the same time.
I like the image there, because theories DON'T become laws. A law usually describes a single mathematical rule or a single tendency or pattern, while a theory usually offers an explanation or interpretation of several laws.
Great video. I really liked how you simply used geological evidence and let people decide. I think that people who realize how wrong creationism is should keep the personal attacks down and just use the evidence. Nice work.
Eric Hovind fails to understand even the basics. Yes, other cultures have flood myths. Guess what? Many of those cultures with flood myths are OLDER than the Hebrews. It is more likely that the Hebrews lifted the flood story from the Sumerians. One cannot claim the bible is true by using similar stories from cultures far older than the culture that wrote the bible.
I love how they try to make their videos all fancy and science-y as if it lends some credibility to their argument. These people definitely have more money than brains.
There was massive flooding at the end of the most recent ice age. Obviously it didn't cover the whole earth. I read that the Black Sea used to be a lake, and the Mediterranean rose so much and eventually spilled into it. But my theory is that the reason why so many religions have a flood is because a story of the large flood post ice age was passed down from generation to generation. And much like the game Telephone, the story changed over time.
Its incredible how back a few years creationist were referring to science as pure fiction and mere computer graphics and pretty images and now they are doing the same.
I have a bet for everyone though. How long do think kents kid can stay out prision. I say 3 years OR LESS.
hey dude. I am feeling so down man. I just watch the video about hackle and jackle (ray and kirk) propagando benn dished out to schools man, and it is so discusting man.
It doesn't help unfortunately that no damn christian watches these debunking videos, and are very happy watching their one sided video then never bothering to double check the facts.
A couple of misrepresenatations of what Hovind has said, not much else. BTW does ANYBODY here know what process could have formed the geologic column?
(I've read everything wikipedia has to say on sedimentology and strata)
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Layers are laid in flood, sand storms, earthquakes, not ever annually of one layer every million years So yes all the layers we see are from flood strata.
warriorprince1010 3 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Absolute nonsense. Coconino Sandstone is formed by desert, Tillite is formed by glaciers, desert varnish is formed by exposure to the air. Why are they between other rock layers?
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Sandstone came from a beach as has been proven. Till is merely unsorted sediment and could have come during the flood. Till is evidence for a flood as it is unsorted. It goes against an annual formation. Varnished rocks would be expected to be found at deifferent depths had a global flood moved massive amounts of rocks from one place to another. All supports the flood.
warriorprince1010 3 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Bull SHIT, the Cocoino sandstone was deposited by deserts. Hike the Grand Canyon someday and ask.
Till is piled up by glaciers, not water.
Desert varnish 300 years thick is between rock layers.
Calcite releases 11,290 joules when it hardens, if limestone several miles thick deposited, it would boil away the entire ocean with 5,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules, plus magma hardening and Meteor Impacts adding more. The sea would vaporize.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord The sandstone on the grand canyon was probably from abeach ehcne the amphibian foot prints in it. Varnished rocks takes around 300 years...then a flood came and covered it with other rocks. Limestone again was covered by the flood which laid sediment on top of it. Flood strata fits.
warriorprince1010 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 No, the Coconino Sandstone has footprints of scorpions, millipedes, isopods, spiders, reptiles, and they show loping, running, and galloping gaits only possible on land, plus wind and raindrop impressions not formed underwater.
Varnished rock is BETWEEN other layers, explain that.
On a young earth, where did miles of limestone even come from? And limestone is sedimentary, that bull shit proves sedimentary rock does not need the flood at all, so there's no evidence a flood.
InternetDarkLord 2 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Coconino Sandstone has amphibian footprinits in them. Never heard of the scorpions footpirints in them. The slopes are from a beach, obviously. As we have shown the data we see is flood strata.
warriorprince1010 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Hike the Grand Canyon and look! I have been to the river and back four times! There are many animal footprints, made on dry land. And if that is a beach, where the hell are all the fossil seashells? Did Noah remove them all? And you have shown NO DATA art all.
InternetDarkLord 2 months ago
@InternetDarkLord They are Amphibian footprints made under water and on a beach. I have not heard of scorpion footprints, even evolutionists have not mentioned it. Amphibians do not live in deserts. There is no evidence for annual layer sbeing laid every 1 million years, none. Sediment or large movements in sand are made by water or wind, not annually. Science is happy with creation, so am I.
warriorprince1010 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 The scientists of the world believe in Evolution and Deep Time. For example, the National Park Service website has a Grand Canyon Geology section, including all the footprints I mentioned, and photographs showing some. Many kinds of sedimentary rock are not formed by water. Other kinds like limestone cannot form at the speed you fanatic religion requires. Have they invented the steam engine in the century you live?
InternetDarkLord 2 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Science accepts creation. No room or evidence for accident.
warriorprince1010 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Science accepts evolution, and it is not an accident either. Name all the state or Ivy league Universities that accept creationism as a fact.
InternetDarkLord 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 You're just a dishonest propaganda monkey, why do you bother debating? No evidence will ever convince you because of your massive confirmation bias. You're just wasting the time of people who otherwise would be learning about science and bettering humankind. If people like you had your way we'd still think the earth was flat.
jappud 2 months ago 7
@warriorprince1010 Till is an abandoned glacial erosion sediment - this is evidenced by it being unsorted (because it is simply dumped by the glacier - where as floods lead to graded bedding as it drops the largest clasts first) and unstratified and the clasts themselves being angular and often featuring striae or other signs of glaciation. None of these processes occur due to a flood.
roddyc55 2 weeks ago
@roddyc55 Till occurs during floods, yes. Thanks. Try again.
warriorprince1010 2 weeks ago
@warriorprince1010 Ok prove it then? For yourself I suggest you read the entry from Britannica Encyclopedia on till (you just have to type it into google and it comes up ;) ) as my source. Please give me a source with an example of "flood till".
roddyc55 1 week ago
You did not debunk anything.
You fail to realize that the entire sedimentary deposit is entirely impossible without a global flood.
watch?v=HoKVVYJ8KJM
JungleJargon 3 months ago
@JungleJargon No, it is impossible with a global flood, explain the fantastic heat generated.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord the fact that we are alive and living on top of the over 100 million cubic miles of layered sediments that buried almost everything living on earth proves that not only that there was a flood but we survived the flood.
JungleJargon 3 months ago
@JungleJargon No, because it does not require ONE GLOBAL FLOOD, many bodies of water over time explain it.
2. You never explained the intense heat. Explain please.
3. Many kinds of rock layers, including sedimentary, are not formed by water: tillite by glaciers, Coconino Sandstone by deserts, desert varnish by exposure to the air. Why are they between the other layers?
4. Where the hell was all that sediment before the Imaginary Flood? Sediment can only deposit if it erodes somewhere else.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord The layered sediments of the Grand Canyon go down over a mile deep. You failed to explain where those sediments all came from and the rest of the sediments around the world on every other continent including Antarctica.
JungleJargon 3 months ago
@JungleJargon I did explain, the earth is over 4 billion years old, the Vishnu Schist formed about 1.4 billion years ago. READ SOMETHING, YOU SCIENCE IDIOT!
Then, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS! Are you 5 years old or retarded?
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
Age of the Earth: ~4 billion years
Age of most creationists brains: ~3 years.
mikefromwa 4 months ago 2
It is the pressure from the ocean plates that push up the mountains.
watch?v=lEledPONpkQ
JungleJargon 4 months ago
You need to explain where over 200 million cubic miles of sediments covering every life form on earth came from before you say anything.
JungleJargon 4 months ago
@JungleJargon Scientists have been doing that for 200 years. Its called a GEOLOGY BOOK! Are you aware matter is made of atoms?
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord It is the geology books that are in question. They never explained where the over 100 million cubic miles of uniform consecutive layers of micro sedimentation came from.
All matter is derived from hydrogen which is an essential working part that is ordered inside of us requiring a very great Maker.
JungleJargon 3 months ago
@JungleJargon YES, geology books do explain how rock layers form. And rock layers cannot form all at once due to the heat of formation. Limestone (calcite) releases 11,290 joules per gram as it hardens. The miles of limestone worldwide would release 5,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy, plus the magma hardening, plus Meteor Impacts would vaporize the ocean, the ark, the atmosphere....get the point?
Who made the Maker?
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Life on earth today proves that we survived the flood.
JungleJargon 3 months ago
@JungleJargon WRONG. You never proved a flood happened. Life proves Noah's Farce never happened:
1. The Bible says all pairs were "male and female" but many Parthenogenetic, Gynogenetic, or Hermaphrodite animals don't reproduce with those genders.
2. With 1 pair of each unclean, 4 pairs of people, 7 pairs of clean animals, INCEST and INBREEDING would be rampant, unclean animals 7 times as badly.
3. DNA tests like Mitochondria and Y-chromosome tests prove those bottlenecks never existed.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord You cannot tell me anything until you account the origin of over 100 million cubic miles of uniform layers of micro sediments and how they came to cover everything that was living on earth.
JungleJargon 3 months ago
@JungleJargon The earth is about 4,5000,000 years old, layers have been deposited by water and wind over the eons. READ A GEOLOGY BOOK!!! Have you ever read one geology book?
NOW ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, MORON!!
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
hello retard, multiple flood myths prove noahs flood? noahs flood supposedly killed everybody except 8 people.
where did all the stories come from dipshit.
oneadamtwelve86 5 months ago
4:45 WARNING: Major facepalm moment.
LueTm 5 months ago
Good laymans approach and debunking of an idiot. As a fellow geologist I salute you.
micometer 5 months ago
InternetDarkLord Many creationists take Isaiah 65:25, which says that "the lion will eat straw like the bull", to mean that lions once ate grass, and since Genesis states that God gave the animals green vegetation to eat, this idea seems well biblically supported. However, since fossil cats have sharp teeth, this presents a problem for the Design Argument:
WHAT KIND OF STUPID DEITY DESIGNS
A GRASS EATER WITH SHARP TEETH AND A SHORT GUT?!!!
SpaceOdyssey56 6 months ago 8
Some creotards have claimed that all animals were vegetarians before Noah's Farce, Genesis 1, verse 30, but sometimes fossil carnivores still have prey inside their stomachs.
InternetDarkLord 6 months ago
Sorry bro, but you didnt debunk anything. Debunking is when you disprove something. All you did was rattle off what you have been taught that conrtasts what this guy is teaching. Thats not debunking that is a difference of opinion. And you were making fun of him for lack of critical thinking. SERIOUSLY
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Stevoukos 5 months ago
Hey Eric, I'm looking for your father. Do you know where he is?
shfecta 6 months ago
NO! You crazy Dutch Bastard! hahahaha
Anyway, good video. Nicely done.
Jortzul 6 months ago
This is so funny. Anything is possible in a few million years. That's basically the story of evolutionists. Every time this guy says # million years ago I just laugh. Yeah... he was there. Hope people realize that all this is just a story to satisfy observations. Its not any more valid than creationists scientists statements except for the fact scientists love their naturalistic stories
semitope 6 months ago
@semitope okay then, so in the future if your car is stolen or home is robbed no one is going to bother investigating it for you. I mean, you weren't there when it happened, so you can't prove you've been robbed. What? Evidence? That's just a story to satisfy your observations, you silly goose.
Beyondisme 6 months ago
@Beyondisme weak logic, typical of an evolutionist/atheist. Your analogy would be more accurate if you said you couldn't conclusively claim who robbed me without video evidence. Knowing I was robbed is the same as knowing we exist, trying to figure out how requires assumptions
semitope 6 months ago
@semitope weak logic is assuming you have to have been there to prove it. There's a little thing called conclusive evidence. When you have it it tends to prove you right. And in the case of geology . . . creationists lose. They lose hard.
Also, what's an evolutionist? I've heard of evolutionary biologist, and even rational thinkers (Christians and religious folk among them) who accept evolution as a natural phenomena, but evolutionist is a term of creationist origin.
Beyondisme 6 months ago
@Beyondisme Ahhh you know the old saying you can lead a creationist to water, but no matter how hard you try explain they don't walk on water, they always end up drowning.
Boudiga 6 months ago
@Boudiga There actually was a Christian preacher in Africa who claimed he could walk on water because he had enough faith in Christ. He gathered his entire congregation at a local stretch of beach along the ocean, and they all watched as he walked into the water and was never seen again. Sad and strange as that sounds it's a true story too.
Beyondisme 6 months ago
@Beyondisme LOL
Boudiga 6 months ago
lol "creationist geology" for someone who believes that rock that apparently took billions of years to form, was created in an instant in the way it looks, is someone who will A. believe anything B. not believe anything based on evidence.
This goes for all scientific studies in relation to creationist minds.
Sc0ttPrian 7 months ago
actually clams are fine if they havnt closed
dragonwar524 7 months ago
People like what ffreethinker has to argue against is the very reason why evolution should be taught in school. To he'll with the I'd myths
DavidNeff2011 7 months ago
Question: If the Imaginary Flood deposited the sedimentary layers, where did it erode? Where was the stuff before the flood?
InternetDarkLord 7 months ago
If we are to go by the results, Eric Hovind is proof that Kent Hovind was never much of a science teacher.
NicolSD 7 months ago
29 Dutch people managed to discover the internet.
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"29 Dutch people managed to discover the internet"
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MomoTheBellyDancer 7 months ago
many floods have occured throughout history and had you been living on the banks of the black sea when it was breeched by the mediterrainian it would seem biblical to you. to think the flood once deposited clams on the summit of everest just goes to show the mis information propergated by the main stream media, in order to achieve this their would have to be 4 to 5 times the amount of water we have on the earth today
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hoppimike 8 months ago
@TonyWilkesAyalew DNA tests can prove inbreeding. Insular japan has higher levels of Xeroderma Pigmentosum, Congenital total Color Blindness, Tay-Sachs Disease, Ichthyosis, etc, than the USA, because it has a higher level of inbreeding.
Test also show that cheetahs are inbred in the wild.
Some parthenonogenetic lizards are female populations.
InternetDarkLord 9 months ago
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@TonyWilkesAyalew Where does the Bible say that? You are just reading things into the hebrew text as you go along.
InternetDarkLord 9 months ago
@TonyWilkesAyalew Which fish lived through the flood, the saltwater fish in the rain water or the fresh water fish in the salty ocean? Or did they all die in the muddy water?
gregrutz 8 months ago
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TonyWilkesAyalew 9 months ago
@TonyWilkesAyalew OK, explain why coral and bryozoan reefs are stratified. Why is anything?
InternetDarkLord 9 months ago
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TonyWilkesAyalew 9 months ago
@TonyWilkesAyalew Historic arguments are debunked all the time.
InternetDarkLord 9 months ago
@TonyWilkesAyalew Would you actually like to look at the science that directly debunks the flood myth? It's fairly simple involving only a few disciplines: chemistry, physics, and math. All we need do is look at one little rock formation, run the numbers, and presto! Noah's Flood is falsified in one shot. To further drive home the nails in the coffin for the myth? Look at all the rest of the similar formations and their mates all over the world. What it comes down to? Genesis is not literal.
NorthForkFisherman 9 months ago
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TonyWilkesAyalew 9 months ago
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TonyWilkesAyalew 9 months ago
@TonyWilkesAyalew
"name one animal that does not have 2 genders, AND breathes through it's nostrils AND can walk on the land. So, please do, I'm dying to hear it"
New Mexico whiptail lizard (Cnemidophorus neomexicanus)
They are all females and reproduce parthenogenically..
MisterGibs 6 months ago
good ending
HiMinds 9 months ago
Awesome and informative video.
Slight issue though, some of the fossils you showed that you claimed were clams appear to be brachiopods, not clams.
Savaga 10 months ago
he said No-verwhelming evidence
qwestwardly 11 months ago
Hey, Eric! Where's your daddy? If his ass wasn't 'holey' before he went in, it is now!
yeshuahfullofit 11 months ago 2
Admitted knitpick - Hualapai (Wàh-luh-pai) (Wah like "wah"), (luh like "duh"), (pai like "pie"), (emphasis on "wah").
qabala 1 year ago
Geology rocks so hard.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago 14
@karlkarlkarl1234 you breccia
k4ylr 10 months ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 It's gneiss that you agree.
NorthForkFisherman 9 months ago
You have no idea of what you are talking about and you did not even explain where all of the strata came from. Start with the origin of the strata that contains all of the buried fossils.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy He covered a variety of topics in only six minutes. If you want explanations of strata, go to Potholer54debunks' channel and watch his videos about the Flood.
VolatileReaction 11 months ago
Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
yxrcbszg 1 year ago 2
Funny. If you caught your 4-year-old nephew sucking his thumb and talking to his invisible, super-powered friend you'd just smile, shake your head and hope he grows out of it soon. When this same behaviour is carried over into adult life were expected to take it seriously and show respect for the person's "religious beliefs".
telescope3 1 year ago
Funny. Christians using cutting-edge graphics in order to depict the 'true scientific facts' backing-up their chosen fairy-tale. If you went back in time and asked the Disciples the shape of the world, all would tell you it was flat. The Bible is a collection of stories designed to disseminate a uniform moral code amongst mostly illiterate tribal audiences living halfway around the world over a thousand years ago. It ain't a science book. Don't take it so literally.
telescope3 1 year ago
when did christains learn how to use a computer?
xcommunicate 1 year ago
You and your evil science priests are wrong! Anyone with a brain could tell that the grand canyon was carved by the tears of baby jesus because you touch yourselves at night. Herp de derp!
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Excellent use of an Austin Powers clip.
biomanwin 1 year ago
Very educational video.
supersmash43 1 year ago
Creation minute is meant to be simplified and not very detailed in order to draw you into the details later. The Hovinds offer entire college courses chock full of facts serving as limiting factors that completely DEBUNK evolution. I am not seeing any debunking of anything in this video, may YHWH remove the veil covering your eyes in the name of Jesus Christ. Your creator is knocking and your heart is hardened. Wake up and realize how badly deceived you have been.
christiantmcguire 1 year ago
@christiantmcguire Debunking evolution? That's like debunking the fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid that rotates around the sun in an elliptical orbit. God fearing people didn't wanna accept that fact either. It's funny how they act like science is an enemy but they praise god for there achievements.
eastsidewillyb 1 year ago
@eastsidewillyb Most pre-modern cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including ancient Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Ancient Near East until the Hellenistic period, Ancient India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD) and China until the 17th century. It was also typically held in the cultures of the New World until the time of European contact. Seems to me like NON God Fearing people believed that too, anything else smartie?
christiantmcguire 1 year ago
@christiantmcguire Yeah, but non god fearing people weren't the ones throwing people in jail for saying that the earth rotates the sun. You missed that point didn't you?
eastsidewillyb 1 year ago
@eastsidewillyb I'll accept that response upon proof that NON God fearing people did NOT throw people in jail for that reason as well. Otherwise its just foolish to bicker back and forth due to your lack of understanding of both sides of the issue your attempting to create. To label oneself a Christian does not make oneself a true believer in Christ, I'm sure many people who labeled themselves Christians through history did many despicable acts as did non Christians, it is all separate from God.
christiantmcguire 1 year ago
@christiantmcguire Okay, I do agree with that, but still it was wrong to deny that the earth rotates around the sun just as it is wrong to deny that evolution is real. It's the same way of taking good science and disregarding it due to blind faith.
eastsidewillyb 1 year ago
@eastsidewillyb Its also wrong to deny people freedom of speech, put em in jail for talking truth, bringing them into siberia, killing tens of millions of your own countrymen, lie to the masses about the leader of the country etc. And thats what atheists are all about, they are mass murderers.
You are generalizing all christians into catholicism. So i guess i can call atheists, stalinists?
shlukh 1 year ago
@shlukh I do think that people are good people or bad people regardless of what religion they are or even if they have religion at all. Most of what gives someone morals is how they were raised and the community they grew up in. I could easily bring up Hitler, the crusades, 911 hijackers, the salam witch trials as all examples of people trying to do gods work that ended up bad.
eastsidewillyb 1 year ago
@eastsidewillyb I believe in the Lordship of Jesus Christ and that the Bible is the word of God. All the religious institutions are made by man and not perfect. Not even one christian is perfect by far. But God is perfect and demands perfect obidience to His law. After all, you will have to answer to God, being measured by His standard, not mine, or your own, or anyone else.
You can spend your life pointing out flaws in different christians, but it will bring you nowhere. God is still sovereign
shlukh 1 year ago
@shlukh Yeah, I get that, but what if I told you that my standards are much higher. There's nothing in the bible against rape or slavery but I would never support either. Not to mention that I don't think I can just be forgiven for something that easy. So if I do something wrong I can't just take a bath and feel a false sense of forgiveness. I have different standards thou cuz I don't think there's anything wrong with cursing god. F**K god. But not lower standards by any means.
eastsidewillyb 1 year ago
@eastsidewillyb Gods standard against false sexual conduct: Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
The Bible is full of instances, where Jesus is speaking to the religious crowd and refutes their false security in their prayers and rules and knowledge. And in the end its the people who claimed to be closest to God, who killed Jesus. Its a big hint from God
People lie and even deceive themselves
shlukh 1 year ago
@shlukh
To much for an A to understand, it´s hard to educate an A as it´s too hard to make a rock to speak...just ask me
God bless you
realhomosapiens 1 year ago
If anything, this just shows how unwilling creationists are to even acknowledge hard evidence. The arguments in this video come from introductory geology material, the basics, and may as well be regarded as a fact. Decades of hard work, the life work of some individuals, in geology being dragged through the mud, misconstrued and used as creationist propaganda makes me sick. If it all boils down to morality in the end, I see nothing moral in defaming someone's life work.
farcrypoop 1 year ago
your logic is garbage. epic fail
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VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
most liekly flood legends come from end of the iceage when sea level rise. meny cultures have legends of floods but some do not. only those who have conecton to sea or rivers have flood legends.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
@gooddarkjedi That's one possibility. There's also the independent reality that floods are devastating and naturally occurring. A simple flood resulting from, say, a tsunami would be more than enough to be the basis of a myth.
onijester56 1 year ago
@onijester56 I think a more likely possibility is that the flood is ENTIRELY a myth invented by ancient nomads who saw fossilized fish skeletons and seashells high in the mountains and didn't know how else to account for them so they started telling heroic tales and the story eventually became exaggerated to the flood myth.
jdh501 1 year ago
@jdh501 It's possible that it is completely mythical. Though my experience tends to reveal that myths are generally based on observable/logical events that are spread and 'mythicized" (sp?).
To use the "heroic tales", there is a historically-documented 'B/Gilgamesh, King of Ur'. It wouldn't be too far of a stretch that he befriended a Warrior/King from another kingdom and became a better ruler because of him.
And the Greco-Roman flood/deluge myth as-presented-by-Ovid is "interesting"...
onijester56 1 year ago
@jdh501 Hmmm nice hypothesis. Makes me wonder because your hypothesis could be a possibility. If that hypothesis where true I wonder if those who had came up with the great flood hypothesis could of been the heretic scientists of their day.
robvlob 1 year ago
@robvlob I think my explanation makes perfect sense, and the Biblical literalists have been doing their verbal backflips and making complete jackasses out of themselves trying to apply science to a myth ever since. If those nomads I described were not the world's first scientists (as you say) then maybe they were the world's first "pwn" artists.
jdh501 1 year ago
@jdh501 Well actually they probably wouldn't have been called scientists maybe sorcerers witches or some other pre-Judea religions idea of an evil being.
What's ironic if science is so wrong and for the most part isn't trying to disprove any god(s) why do the Christians try to disprove it by being dishonest breaking a commandment in the process which is publishable in their religion by being sent to hell. If they truly believed their religion they wouldn't dishonestly try to debunk science.
robvlob 1 year ago 2
@robvlob Maybe religious belief is produced in the same part of the brain which produces emotion, and that causes believers to put reason on the back shelf where it can be safely ignored.
jdh501 1 year ago
@robvlob So true.
AntidoteY 1 year ago
This doesn't really "debunk" anything...it just sounds like some atheist/agnostic who's proud to be a jackass to the creationist community and make a video about it. The poor quality of the arguments in this video actually only help out the creationists.
HarryLeTroisieme 1 year ago
Hey, this is great. One more thing I noticed. If EVERYONE died in the flood. Is it possible that 2 people were able to reproduce 6 Billion in less than 5000 years? In David Christian's, 'Maps of Time' it says that the earths population 5000 years before the present was doubling at a rate of once every 1,635 years (The population was 50 million then). It is, given the history of population, mathematically impossible. I find it hard to beleive people take this 'Hovind' guy seriously.
NuklearSkare 1 year ago
@NuklearSkare Mass re-population by just 2 people = happy times. Not only do people take "my name is Kent" seriously, they even believe his incarceration is a government conspiracy to suppress the truth! FEAR: freehovind{dot}com/petition/signatures-page-160
Direkin 1 year ago
When I hear Creationists talk I start to think that maybe Evolution didn't result in everyone we have alive today.
ikkoikki 1 year ago
I don't think Eric Hovind is Dutch
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
@TheHome
''Eric is Dutch'' They probibly meant Bitch or Douche.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Love the ending!
Seriously though theres two things I hate, intolerance of other peoples and cultures, .........and the Dutch!
thebrassdubliner 1 year ago
I agree with the dubunking. And for once, I'll even give creationists credit for the flood story. Because there is written history of a flood (The Epic of Gilgamesh, etc.), its only because of the melting of ice age glaciers that many coastel areas and rivers became flooded. We tend to forget that our early ancestors lived next to coastel bodies of water and rivers. Some areas receded, and some areas were washed away for ever.
thebizkid84 1 year ago
You wait, in the future theists will add noah's tale to the list of things that should bot be read literally in the bible. It seems this is quite a normal thing for theists to do, when something because so absurd that they themselves can't defend it, it gets relegated to "metaphor" status.
TheSpankymonkey 1 year ago
Huge canyons should lay all along the boarders of the continents due to the water running off them at the end of the year long flood.
edwardtbabinski 1 year ago
Yes, those thick layers of sedimentary rock and huge mountains on Mars are the result of a worldwide flood sent to the Martians because they sinned. Only they didn't even have a "Noah" to save Mart-ianity and Martian animals in a gigantic ark. So they all died.
edwardtbabinski 1 year ago
So since mountains form by erosion during a global flood, that means the moon and Mars, etc must also have been flooded by God. LOL
SillyCyban 1 year ago
The entire universe was flooded! :o
But the stars obviously evaporated all of that water.
And that's why so many meteors are made of ice water. Because God flooded the universe.
Creationist logic is funny.
Vehementi 1 year ago 7
You know what's funny?
If you think 5 seconds, you realise they debunk their own theory... This guy sais "canyons --> global flood". That's quite contradictory. If a flood were to be global, it wouldn't cut through a part of land, it would erode all the land. A longlasting global flood would erode chunks of the same rock equally fast...
Basically he's saying: "Look, a flat part of land, that means there was a glacier there!"
TakesTwoToTango 1 year ago
I'm watching right now on the History channel about the formation of Mnt. Everest. It's hilarious how the YECs distort real science to fit their narrow minded world view.
zachywackyt 2 years ago 20
"Scientists find massive erosion effects all around the world."
WOW! Seriously? Does this even NEED debunking? I mean... really... it is clear that they don't understand ANYTHING of how different geological features are formed.
The ignorance of that statement is astounding.
I'm speechless.
Hyardacil 2 years ago
The problem is there are many people who are decieved by even the most laughable YEC claims. And not a small number of people...
Its ignorant, astounding and breathtakingly wrong - yes. But that doesnt mean people will not be fooled by it.
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
Man, you gotta love the ending ^.^
DigitizedSelf 2 years ago
Lol at the end! :p
choirmasterUK 2 years ago
Great vid but.... Propaganda? Do you know the meaning of the word. Please debunk some real propaganda.
misterwolf29 2 years ago
Propaganda is exactly what creationist garbage is.
Syrinx69 2 years ago
... to mean that the earth is only 6000 years old from the date that passage was written, or between 8000-10000 years old. This corresponds closely with the beginning of human civilization. It's a clear sign of humanities arrogance to think that "the world" began with humanity. Either that, or people misunderstand the real meaning of those passages.
espnmarshall 2 years ago 5
The flooding myths are more than likely from the end of the first ice age when, because of the planet defrosting, there would have been a lot of flooding, and the first human civilizations formed shortly after that. Interestingly enough, some people point to the part in Genesis; "So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation", And the other passage, "A day with the lord is as a thousand years with man" to mean that...
espnmarshall 2 years ago 4
I doubt that "the lord" sees literally one day as 1000 years because in order to do that he would have to either be approaching the speed of light, or outside of time alltogether (what many christians i have talked to claim) ... in which case he wouldnt simply see time in just that one way, he would be able to see it in any way. And if he can percieve time in any way he pleases, why confuse us with strange wording like that? because we all agree that the bible is the written word of god right?
Th3Shadow0fDeath 2 years ago
Regarding many cultures with flood myths: humans tend to set up tribes, cities, and civilizations near lakes and rivers, which tend to flood. Primitive people have no idea how big the world is, so it only takes a regional flood to convince them that the whole world must have flooded. Plus, without written records, stories would get passed down orally, and just like with Telephone, they become exaggerated over time.
freakyphysicsguy 2 years ago 5
did you read my mind or copy a post of mine LOL. this is something ive been saying for years. its a matter of perspective, and the perspective of the time was very limited, evidenced that these tales were written 6000 years before anyone even figured out the world wasnt flat.
hardtomemorize 2 years ago
Christians are epic fail
Fleischesser 2 years ago 11
correct me if im wrong on this but
the fact that 270+ cultures recorded it does suggest a flood, i doubt it was spread by traders because back then, Europeans and Chinese were unaware of each others existence, im pretty sure that Europeans didn't even know anything existed beyond Afghanistan. btw, im not proving the flood happened, im just debunking your 1st point.
Kalahridudex 2 years ago
Kalahridudex, most people, even today, live in a flood plane. Thus, it is natural for most people to invent flood myths. Check your brain, I think it is turned off.
ndyt 2 years ago 5
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Kalahridudex 2 years ago
@Kalahridudex - might be because each of those cultures that wrote of a flood probably experienced a flood. Most of us have seen, heard or been in floods in our own lifetime. In other words -- just because they had stories of floods, doesn't mean that it happened over the entire planet at the same time.
patricknelson 2 years ago
I take offense if he was dutch he would have been better educated! :P
Exile1a 2 years ago 3
that was one of the best endings i have seen in a long time.
emprguy 2 years ago
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I like the image there, because theories DON'T become laws. A law usually describes a single mathematical rule or a single tendency or pattern, while a theory usually offers an explanation or interpretation of several laws.
tifforo1 2 years ago 3
Great video. I really liked how you simply used geological evidence and let people decide. I think that people who realize how wrong creationism is should keep the personal attacks down and just use the evidence. Nice work.
ans5492 2 years ago 2
The end was fantastic
Spadie1 2 years ago 2
Eric Hovind fails to understand even the basics. Yes, other cultures have flood myths. Guess what? Many of those cultures with flood myths are OLDER than the Hebrews. It is more likely that the Hebrews lifted the flood story from the Sumerians. One cannot claim the bible is true by using similar stories from cultures far older than the culture that wrote the bible.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 3
Is it me or do my speakers fail with this voice effect?
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atheistfriends 2 years ago
I love how they try to make their videos all fancy and science-y as if it lends some credibility to their argument. These people definitely have more money than brains.
PathogensQuest 2 years ago 6
Not so much sciencey as they are flashy.
Crucidildo 2 years ago
"NO you crazy dutch bastard! "
Lol! Loved it!
JmSantos78 2 years ago 6
"so was there really a world wide flood, the evidence says: "NO, YOU CRAZY DUTCH BASTARD!"" XDDDDD
TheGrimReapress 2 years ago 33
Awesome finish.
PathogensQuest 2 years ago 2
@TheGrimReapress
curious that eric says
'44 hundred years ago' ???
this would make the creation of the earth at a date of 2400 bce, can we take it then that they have moved the date forward from 4004 bce?
whitesquirrel7 1 year ago
@whitesquirrel7 He was refering to the Flood, not the creation of Earth.
VolatileReaction 11 months ago
There was massive flooding at the end of the most recent ice age. Obviously it didn't cover the whole earth. I read that the Black Sea used to be a lake, and the Mediterranean rose so much and eventually spilled into it. But my theory is that the reason why so many religions have a flood is because a story of the large flood post ice age was passed down from generation to generation. And much like the game Telephone, the story changed over time.
cheezombie 2 years ago 4
Lol at the end.
Mequellios 2 years ago 3
how nice :) eric howent wants to join his father in prisen :D
Temuldjin 2 years ago 3
Another Hovind??!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
MMIGOR 2 years ago 2
lmfao!!!!! Great end
justnaesman 2 years ago
Oh god being retarded runs in the family. I hope he doesn't have any more kids like that :(
ffsnametaken 2 years ago 3
IIRC, it is speculated, that flood stories originate some 10,000 years ago when melting of last ice age's ice did flood places.
muranziel 2 years ago
Its incredible how back a few years creationist were referring to science as pure fiction and mere computer graphics and pretty images and now they are doing the same.
I have a bet for everyone though. How long do think kents kid can stay out prision. I say 3 years OR LESS.
ANY BETS.
jrev37 2 years ago
Nah, his kids are the offspring of someone stupid, which means they are probably way dumber.
I would say Kent's kids can't do their own taxes.
porterwake 2 years ago 2
hey dude. I am feeling so down man. I just watch the video about hackle and jackle (ray and kirk) propagando benn dished out to schools man, and it is so discusting man.
jrev37 2 years ago
I know, I'm a biology teacher constantly trying to thwart ID/Creation action.
porterwake 2 years ago
It doesn't help unfortunately that no damn christian watches these debunking videos, and are very happy watching their one sided video then never bothering to double check the facts.
commsky 2 years ago 2