@TPBXDRicky420 The directional problem with the grassy knoll shooter position is that the bullet would have traveled through JFK & exited into the head of Jackie O. as well, so if there was a shot from there, it did not hit the mark. The blood spray is up & that marks the path & direction of the bullet as well....up.
If you're a screwy Loonspirator, you believe the government messed with the Zapruder film, all the other movies taken in Dealey by individuals, television news, newspapers. You'd have to believe that the government was able to track every person with a camera, confiscate all the film, mess with it then give it back to the owners. They would have to be sure that all the "phoneyed" images all agreed with all the film taken.
there are two or three men running in opposite direction form the grassy knoll to the deppository building for me they are suspicious ones , interisting to note is that in one picture i saw in a police's uniform an emblem of the ku klux klan its a cross within a circle, check out pictures and you'll see it in the right arm, ku klux klan was founded by albert pike it has to do with freemasonry, dealey plaza its a headquaters of masons you can see the buildings, obelisk, the triangle etc.
I never knew there were so many films made the day he was assassinated----I always heard of zepruder film but not all the other ones---I've learned of two more films but none of them had the actual assassination on them as far as I know...neat to see even though the film is so blurry and deteriorated------history in action!
This clip is the most dramatic footage I have seen yet. For a city-boy, Oswald would have a difficult time with an M-1 Garrand. That mule kicks! And to have a sectert security clearance; working on a sectert radar base and 'defecting' right before Gary Power's incident, stopping the russian/american agreement, blah, blah, blah...Now we are in Afganistan where the heroin is. It just all makes sence to me now...
@onceANexile It's too bad Crouch and the camera car was placed behind the Presidential limousine where they could not film Kennedy being shot. Never happened before in any of the JFK motorcades. Just another one of those innocent mixups or maybe one of those "coincidences"
@seth917 When allowed any air time at all in the major media. anyone who might mentions any facts that don't point to Oswald as a lone gunman is a "conspiracy buff," usually it's followed by reference to people believing in UFO's. The press doesn't get much freer than that.
at the end of this clip it looks like a cop , weapon drawn is hovering over a couple of people. Are they the Newmans? Umbrella or Radio Man? Who are they?
@TheTheme2002 Many believe that Umbrella Man was Roy Hargraves & his cuban looking partner with the radio was Pelipe Vidal Santiago.Other members of Brigade 2506 are also photographed in Dealey Plaza that day,like Alfredo Duran & William RIP Robertson.
@themeaningoflife38 Yes, well once you settle on Oz as the lone assassin, all that means is they wanted to watch the motorcade. And of course the CIA had a couple of photos of a guy who apparently tried to impersonate Oz at the Cuban and Soviet embassies in Mexico City, they never even tried to find out who he was. Never publicized the photo at all. It was really something.
In a 2001 interview with Noel Twyman Roy Hargraves admitted that he was in Dallas on 11-22-63 along with Pelipe Vidal Santiago as part of a support team for the assassination.He also claimed that they acted on orders from CIA's JMWAVE station.
If you compare photos of Umbrella Man with Hargraves they certainly do look similar as well as Santiago.
Go to the video titled, Texas School Book Depository Employees - Part 3
At the 2:56 minute mark, you will see & hear James Jarman, Jr... He is the man who assassinated President Kennedy.
The two previous guys shown, Norman & Williams were co-conspirators. Along with Charles Douglas Givens (Not shown)...
Do an "MSN" search with the key words, James Jarman, Jr., Assassin, for the entire story... The 8th site listed, "The John F" is the most comprehensive...
JC Price was on the roof of a building across from the TSBD and saw a man run from the fence around behind the TSBD.Dallas Officer DV Harkness encountered 3 well armed men behind the TSBD immediately after the shooting.They claimed to be SS agents and were let go.Officially there were no SS agents in Dealye Plaza.Shortly after the shooting Ft Worth Police stopped a car for speeding.The 3 men inside claimed to be SS agents rushing to New Orleans regarding JFK's murder.
that is just so sad and unbelievable... to think that cop would just lay his bike down on the road like that... people just dont respect chrome anymore.
It looks like the guy in the suit has something in/under his coat...I have never seen this video in the 45 years I have seen these clips. This is one of the most significant clips I have seen yet. very Good,...Thank you.
Hmmm, if only the Whore House owner wouldn't have killed the only potential witness. At least now they use "Deep Throat's", 'L'ewinski's and Chandra Levy's for political takedowns, so its not quite so blatently evil.
I feel sorry for the police officer on the grass holding his gun at the ready, in complete fear and confusion. That's how America has reacted and rightly so. As long as that which the American people elect can be taken away (2000 presidential election for one, see "Imperial America" by Gore Vidal), we do not live in a free or democratic country.
As long as there are cover-ups at the highest level, we will continue to be manipulated. Integrity - it's the only thing that matters.
I recall reading somewhere, a theory that a shot came from the inside gutter. I have been there and looked at the gutter. It would definitely be an interesting angle although I was surprised at just how small the gutter was...
It would be impossible to get off a shot from inside the sewer opening. Movement is so restricted in there that hitting a moving target would be virtually impossible.
The places to shoot from are on the knoll and from a low floor of the Dal-Tex building. Even the 6th floor window of the TSBD is not a great place from which to shoot at a car on Elm.
do some research on the net. Its not impossible at all, in fact multiple people have been down there and concluded that was indeed possible for a 6 foot tall man to have been down there with a rifle. The presidential vehicle would have been only feet away when passing by but far enough from the curve to give a perfect show of kennedy without compromising the lives of any others.
Brownstone... What I question about the Storm Drain Shooter, is whether there would be head clearance for someone shouldering a rifle shooting through a six inch tall slot when the top of that slot IS the slab ceiling of the storm drain box he's inside of. I've been in storm drains. I've stood at THAT one, watched a guy get inside it. I know you can get in there. But, target acquisition from that angle is very disadvantageous, especially if you don't want to be SEEN, compared to Oswald's perch.
satweavers: That is a fair argument and I respect your opinion especially since you've actually been in that very storm drain. However, I don't know if you took into account the fact that the storm drain is no longer how it used to be in 1963. The slit used to be less wide and had a much bigger opening in terms of height. Honestly, I can't say I'm positive there was a sniper here, I just don't know. But others who have stood in it say it would have been possible to shoot the president from there
Brownstone..I didn't get in the drain. I looked down into it while a theorist climbed in on the 25 anniversary, 1988. I'd like to see someone in the drain sighting a rifle at the spot, seen from the Grassy Knoll to see how obvious the sniper would have to be while waiting for the limo. It's not pop up and shoot. How much time was the target visible as limo rounded the curve? The pipe from the box to larger sewer line would be 24" dia, OK for a 13 yr old, a squeeze for a grown man with a rifle.
Actually, it turns out that the pipe draining the drain box is only 16 inches in diameter. You could slither through it like a turd through a colon, but it would be a VERY Slow escape. There are photographs on the net showing that you cannot see someone standing at Zapruder frame Z313 from the drain. One only comes into view at around Z361. Imperical evidence pushes aside all the theories one can imagine.
It was also reported many years later that a pipe beneath the grassy knoll had a segment cut out of it, possibly to hide the murder weapon to be collected at a later date. Among the lesser credible testaments to this theory, yet should not be completely disregarded is that some claim one of the guns fired had a reverberation to it that sounded like it was inside a small chamber, eg a storm drain. Just some thoughts.
look at these last 3 posts! "Drain shots","LISTEN to the Zapruder film","Jackie shoots JFK", "Motorcycle cops stashes gun" That's why you can't get into a decent checkers game with these conpiracy whackos, let alone a debate.
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Jakie climbs up on the car to grab a piece of the Presidents brain that was on the trunk. Slow it down and watch the Z film. She reaches for something then ducks back into car. The shot came from the drain and clearly echos loudly!
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See the motorcyclecop at .22 see the storm drain in the sidewalk right in front of him? This is where the fatal shot came from. Listen to the Z film you can hear the distinct echo of the fatal shot. The murderer was in the drain and the traveled toward the river where it was reported and ignored that a man with gun was seen in that area.
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why don't anyone stress how Jackie is reacting to all of this? She pops him, tosses the weapon and the cop on the left stops his bike to recover and stash it.
That angle was proven to be good for nothing more than shooting out a tire for a car in the wrong lane...and I'm not trying to be funny by saying that. That "gutter shot" theory had no angle whatsoever and is just more conspiracy theory nonsense that "sounds good", but doesn't pan out.
Too bad all conspiracy theorists don't know (or admit) that Malcolm Couch, along with Pulitzer Prize winning photographer Bob Jackson saw the rifle being withdrawn from the 6th flr. sniper's nest while in the press cars in the motorcade. Jackson's reaction prompting Dallas Morning News' Tom Dillard to take a great photo of the southeast 5th & 6th flrs. (showing Norman, Jarmen and Williams seconds after they heard the shooting above them).
So what did you think prompted Tom Dillard to take his photograph with Norman, Williams and Jarmen STILL in the spots on the 5th flr? He just like the facade of the 5th and 6th flrs?
3 people on the 5th flr., 3 journalists in Camera Car 3, Howard Brennan and Amos Euins (both being referred to 5 minutes after the shooting on police transmissions). That's 8 corroborations toward the 6th flr. nest WELL BEFORE it was discovered by investigators. I guess they were just so richly bribed FOREVER!
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Aha! Très intéressant! Qui es-tu déjà? Tu peux trouver tes chaussettes à toi le matin? Hein? Hein? Dis-moi ça, alors! T'es un vieux con! Toi avec tes conneries! Je m'emmerde enfin! Fous-nous le camp!
In the AOL search engine put in: 'gerald ford warren report'. Several webpages to read.
The first site is good. "Gerald Ford forced to admit the Warren Report fictionalized". It also shows the pic of the bloody shirt and jacket. The bullet hole location is impossible for going out the throat and into Connolly. It must travel UP if out the throat. Magic indeed. Obvious proof of hard credible conspiracy evidence.
The usual govt lie comeback is JFKs shirt was bunched up, the moment of the shot.
You can see baker the cop running full speed at the TSBD.He's the one who spotted oswald on the second floor less than 90 seconds after the last shot.The fbi reenactments were another sick joke,they had howlett simulate everything BUT: WIPING off the rifle,and moving boxes to stash it? thats the key reason for doing the reenactment!And Baker in the reenactments was jogging,(scoffs)pathetic!
very true but they do tell something interesting - that the eye witnesses first instinct was to run to the knoll - not any of the bldgs - that means they heard something there and that alone proves there were multiple shooters
Well, look at the scene... you have the side of the road with the knoll and some trees. If someone is firing a rifle down at you, it's a good place to run and take shelter. You aren't going to run into the field or the road - the only alternatives.
There was also a police officer who was running up the knoll. Obviously, people think that the officer must be chasing the assassin, and they'd follow to watch - regardless of where they thought the shots came from.
on the last scene as the police man picks up his bike.... watch the guy behind him. what is he carrying from his hip... it sems to fire and recoil... but at what and why?
any of you ever go there?I was there in '74 before it was a tourist trap and I explored it everywhere.first off the vibes are real weird in certain spots,maybe it was my paranoia but lots of negative shit there.i went up by the railroad tracks,the old fence was still there then and it was a perfect shooters nest.actually there were about five really great spots to shoot from and get away quick since the more panic the better to get away.this didn't take much to plan,an idiot could have done it.
lucky that is an interesting post thanks. Thing is an idiot could not have stood down the Secret Service and all the rest that happened...That took a conspiracy. Conspiracy isn't a loaded word as some make it, it only means two or more people plan it. It seems obvious to me that his trying to disband the CIA was his death warrant.
What 2nd man in the window? As far as I know there is no credible witness that stated that. 2 men were in the 7th floor window, could it be a mix up? Please tell me were your info came from I would like to see it.
Many people saw 1 man in the window holding a rifle- thought he was SS.(read Death Of A President) Why is it so hard to believe the 90 second thing when it has been proven possible. There is some much evidence pointing to O and none supporting conspircy. y
the 90 second thing as you say was never proven because the fbi left out key aspects.howlett just placed the gun down(not carefully conceal like oswald apparently did)didnt wipe prints.AND baker was practically jogging in the reenactments in this film you see him haul ass!
We can argue the 90 second thing all day so let's move on. Why did he suddenly leave the building? He said he thought they had the rest of the day off but shouldn't he have asked? Why did he go home and get a pistol?
Weird behavior if he just got an extended weekend. Why did he shoot a cop? Why did he Did he need a gun to see a movie? Why was he doing things differently the night before? Why was he in the window with his rifle that he got from the garage the night before?
Yeah Weird behavior that could have meant anything,how do you know he didnt leave because he realized he was possibly set up?why did he empty the 3rd round if he didnt intend to use the rifle again?why didnt he bring the pistol to work?No proof that the murder weapon is even his rifle or that he took it from the garage,and listen to the only man to id oswald in the window AFTER he saw him on t.v and learned he had communist sympathies real credible.
Dont you find it odd that no one EVER SAW oswald with a large package enter that building or with it IN or even around one in the building?The guy who drove him there made up the story of oswald bringing a package saying ''there curtain rods''listen to his testimony he was clearly told to give that story BEFORE,then his wife confirms it..ha yeah,lol
Oswald could have sneaked the rifle into the truck before dawn, return after arriving at work and sneaked it in unnoticed. His wifeknew he had a rifle in the garage and it was gone that day. No one ever proved the rifle wasn't his,
indexan one pristine bullet traveling through two bodies and sets of bones making hairpin turns and defying gravity...that's what you believe? Oswald with a single rifle? Is that what they are teaching in schools now? Hard to believe.
Howcome there isnt anything on the net about him lying about the cutianrods? Why do conspicry theory supporters have to lie to get their point across?
Oswald had spent a lifetime proving himself to be too unrealible to be in a major conspircy that would set him up.
Emptying the 3rd round was a reaction. He went to visit his wife Thurs. night and left the pistol at home, might be fired a day early if he was caught with it at work. At least 1 witness saw Oswald in the window BEFORE the shooting. He tap his wife on the shoulder pointed to him and said "look an SS man" (Read Death Of a President)
it doesnt matter IND we are to believe oswald admired his final shot,emptied the final chamber squeezed out of the snipers nest,ran 100+feet, wiped the fingerprints, carefully stash the rifle (moving boxes to place it, then conceal it) GO BACK to the stairwell go down 4 flights of stairs across the second floor into the lunchroom..less than 90 seconds..and not be out of breath?IMPOSSIBLE..fbi's howletts reenactment continued the cover up.
So then who was the guy that matched Oswald discription in the window?Why did he have Oswald's rifle? Why wasn't anyone found in the building that wasn't suppose to be there? Why was Oswald the only one to leave? Why did He visit his wife unannounced on Thursday night? Why was his rifle missing from the garage? Why did he tell his ride the package was curtain rods? Why weren't curtians found in the warehouse? Why did he need curtain rods when his apartment already had them?
Why were kennedys two rear protecion Secret Ser. MEN asked to standdown as the CAR turned onto Dealy Plaza( which would have blocked a clear shot on Jfk(see the video on youtube Secret service standdown). First and only time these two guys were told not to ride( they testified that it broke protocol and that the plaza offered numerous spots for a sniper. I dont believe the drain theory but the HEAD shot came from the right and front as the force blows him back and left twoards jackie.
They were told to stand down because it was an inside job, just like 9/11. Marvin Bush getting away with killing Bertha Champagne in his front yard, the article is in the Washington Post Archives, it's no 'theory'. And you can just google Marvin Bush and see his connections to 9/11. You can hear Dan Rather and Peter Jennings both describing the impossibility of Building 7 collapsing due to 'fire' on 9/11.
You said it! What drives me nuts is how people think they are educated on the subject because they've seen that Oliver Stone garbage. Though if they can't be "entertained" then it wouldn't hold their interest anyway.
Look up Marvin Bush's ties to key 9/11 locations and companies, and also the cold blooded murder of Bertha Champagne, his housekeeper in his own front yard...and ask yourself why the news isn't reporting that? What do we have in the White House? A terrorist who was behind 9/11. People show up dead as a warning to others to keep quiet. Our press is being controlled here, just like during Kennedy's time.
Yeah that cop was looking for his fellow rats down the drain. lol It is amazing what people will see ! Did you see the sasquatch and the yetti in the tree ? near the lady in the grey dress who turned her back. lmao People are strange.
How come all 5five police officers said the gun found in the book depository was a Mauser originally, than all but one recanted when drilled by the FBI. Also, was seen leaving the book depository in a car.
I am not a tugh guy and this was not a tough shot. In tests experts were able to hit the kill shot in 47 out of 50 attemps. the only 3 misses were when they tried to dry fire the rifle. Go to any marines trainig ground and ask them how hard it is to hit a target moving at 11 mph away on a decline only 88 yards away. I will not insult CT i will respectfully respond constructively
People this was not a tough shot. In the marines he was tested at 100 200 300 and 500 yards. He hit 49 of 50. Kennedy was only 88 years going 11 miles an hour. Charles Whitman killed 17 poeple from the tower at the University of Texas. From as far as 3 blocks away wile being shot at by police. He also was trained by the marines. Not a tough shot by any means.
Classic Oliver Stone "JFK" dribble. Oswald reached the level of "sharpshooter" in the marines (His scorebooks prove it)He could rapidfire with accuracy from 200 yards away. More than twice the distance of the head shot. It is sad how many people take all their knowledge of this event from that stupid movie.
While scouring the footage of the JFK assasination i've been trying to find further footage of Rosemary Willis the girl seen in both the Dorman and notably the Zapruder footage.Between seconds 4 and 6 of the Couch film,is this the back of her i see walking amongst the crowd?
was oswald an alien? how was he not out of breath in less the 90 seconds after,wiping fingerprints,while going 100= feet,carefully stash and conceal it,go down 4 flights of stairs and not be breathing heavy? was oswald a prophet too? since everyone knew when kennedy would arrive 12:25 how did oswald know he would be 5 minutes late? did oswald super human sight? i mean too make that shot under stress, a moving target with a busted scope. yeah no conspiracy
it gets even worse there is a secretary on you tube vidio here somewhere saw him in a solicitors office at the time, its pathetic to see him screaming for a lawyer before he was conveniantly eliminated by jack ruby
but its time to move on , we got real and present dangers here and now
oswald was an alian[ated] loner and a patsie[you gotta feel sorry for his kids with everyone thinking thier pop was a murderor when he was just a lost dude
Classic. Who ever said Oswald's scope was as you say "busted". His flight from the shooting to (forget downstairs, which according to you is like running a marathon)the theatre has been demonstrated a hundred times and it was VERY doable. And you other point, if JFK is 5 minutes late are you assuming Oswald is just going to take his "curtain rods" and go home? When he does tell him to scrub both hands so maybe the parrafin tests won't come back positive.
A guy just fell from 500ft from a fuckin sky scraper a couple of weeks ago and survived and he's not even in a fuckin wheel chair so that's DOABLE but let's see if your monkey ass can do it. I'm sure quite a few ppl can survive that fall just like i'm sure quite a few ppl can do all that bullshit that Oswald supposedly did. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT FUCKIN BULLSHIT. Something very fishy happened on this day and that's all there is to it.
WOW,for you not to know that that was disproven is sad. The only shot that was good for would have been a rat running along the curb. And please you people,stop with these "puffs of smoke"-this event happened in 1963 not 1863.
jfk signed [3 days before] presidential order 11.110 [or 11.111]
read it
its still reverberating but govt [jfk]bought back the bank but to hush it down got brought down from on low, then the selouts sold out thier common weal
Just for the sake of expanding your horizons why don't you focus on REALITY. It's been proven that a head can barely peep out of that drain only viewing cars wheels and bumpers in the right lane only as the car was a few feet from the drain...... NO ROOM to seriously aim at anything than blowing out a tire...for a car in the wrong lane!
Was that a attempt to fire your torpedo's at the enemy ? Sounds like one got stuck in the tube , you YOUBOOBTUBE baffoon ! Heheheheheheh ! He has a hard time finding his own socks in the morning and he thinks he's going to find out who killed JFK ! Hahhahahahahahah ! Funny as funny can be !
Forget the socks , check your alphabet cereal , if you see 'conspiracy' formed by letters when you add your milk , drop your spoon , head to the car and go directly to the nearest shrink .....usually a good dose of librium or thorezen will clear up your problem immediately . Good luck .
Heheheheheheh! He has a hard time finding his own socks in the morning and he thinks he's going to find out who killed JFK ! Il a beaucoup de mal à trouver ses propres chaussettes le matin et il pense qu'il va savoir qui a tué JFK!.J'aime beaucoup l'humour US,je me marre hi,hi,hi!!!!!!!
The scene of the man running after Officer Marion Baker as he runs towards the TSBD steps has been edited out of this film in the versions shown on TV & cable dating back to tmwkk. Compare theirs to this one! The edit is where the little boy runs across the street in front of Couch.
Is the man running after Baker Truly, Oswald or someone else?
anim8 is absolutely right. The second or third shooter was hidden in the storm drain, and you wonder why that officer stopped RIGHT there, RIGHT nearly in front of it, you wonder unless he knew that something was happening in there. 5/5
That's strange because the History Channel covered this in their "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" series some years ago, and the man who claimed to have been an assassin had the camera to show the perspective if someone was in the storm drain; it was a perfect angle for any shot above the chest.
Possible , but with the additional suite of evidence all pointing towards searcherboy's lover and RED ROMEO LHO the probability's of the R&G study bringing closet homo-communists closer to their cherished dream of exonerating a presidential and police murderer and getting him elected Honorary Mayor of Dallas is extremely remote ! I think all would agree with my analysis !
Ignore cdddraftsman, he's just messin with yer head. If you want to know where the other shots came from, there is on YouTube, interviews with eyewitnesses who describe shooting from the grassy knoll. Ignore the flawed Warren Report. Get it from the source. Search for SM Holland. Only the government could cover that up.
Anybody who reads the unfiltered and unselected witness testimony will quickly find that even honest sober witnesses have wild, wacky, and often downright bizarre elements in their testimony. Consider, for example : Sam Holland, who thought that after Kennedy was shot Jackie "jumped up and tried to get over in the back seat to him."
What's my excuse for... what? Make some sense out of what you just said. What is my excuse, and for what is my excuse for? What stream of consciousness are we working with here, exactly?
Don't try to act coy with me . If you don't like my style , just say so , I'm a big boy , I promise not to start crying . To say someone is cranky seems a little wishy washy to me . Sounds like the person who's saying it is a lot cranky to be honest .
Your 'style' consists of going on every single JFK vid, commenting angrily to people that don't agree with you by copy/pasting every single comment you've writ in every single comment section... so yea, your 'style' kinda blows. And saying you're cranky is 'wishy-washy'? What's wishy-washy about it?
When you come up with better comebacks, drop me a line.
What are you doing here ? Nitting and Nitpicking section is two video's over to your left . Hop along now , unless you have a comment on the JFK Assassination ......HELLO ? ANYBODY HOME ? Geesh...! I never knew mixing honey and vinegar could make someone so cranky ?
As far as this 'stream of consciousness' bs goes , I think it's for birds and people who use that type of language usually don't know the difference between a stream , river , delta or a estuary . Get it ?
Why didn't you just say so in the first place . Your a roving attack poodle who criticises people who criticise others . What a wonderful vocation . You don't comment on the JFK Assassination ....HELLO ? .....ANYBODY HOME ? YOU do remember this is all about the JFK Assassination don't you ?
The storm drain is a impossible shot ! Anyone who's been down in there knows this . Stop peddling messages of hate for your own self glorification !
Dr. Marvin Fackler has reproducted CE-399 with a downloaded MC 6.5mm round (1000fps) ! Proves your full of shit ! Wrong ! Dr. Lattimer did a similar experiment and his lead lost out of bullet prodyced 41 fragments , JBC had only 4 fragments removed !
This film clearly shows the storm drain where the second shooter was hiding. He was NOT on the grassy knole. You see the cop pick up his motorcycle, which was used to help hide the gun sticking out from the storm drain.
If you believe Oswald was the lone gunman, you have to believe that one ordinary bullet caused 7 exit and entry wounds, passed through a rib and radius bone, and emerged with no distortion or damage - a physical impossibility. The only alternative to this absurd theory is that other shots were fired by at least one other gunman.
The autopsy physician could not account for something very strange about the 'magic bullet'. The bullet supposedly ended up in Conally's thigh, where it became lodged just below the skin. Yet fragments, supposedly from this same pristine bullet, travelled through the thick muscles of the thigh and were imbedded in the femur. This fact, glossed over in the Warren Report, seriously weakens the official version of the assassination.
Many bullet fragments were not removed. The Warren Commission report refers to post-op X-rays of Connally's wrist showing bullet fragments which were left in situ. Connally's family refused requests to remove, weigh and test these fragments after he died.
Forensic testing of the bullet fragments, shown in the Warren Commission as having a high probability of proving a single bullet, has been discredited. NAA tests (Neutron Activation Analysis) performed after the Warren Commission, thought at the time to confirm SBT, has been proven to be unreliable. Comparative bullet lead analysis, including NAA is no longer used by the FBI or the courts.
The R&G study that supposedly debunked the NAA was a political stunt that a left wing judge took too seriously ! Proposing that anywhere between 2 to 5 bullets could account for all the bullet fragments is as usefull as saying : A man on the moon shot JFK .
this film was taken no more than 15 seconds after the fatal head shot, and clearly shows Marrion Baker running toward the front of the TSBD. Anyonw who believes the lone gunman theory is dilusional. There is no way Oswald was on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting.
Stripping it down to basics, every thing the Warren Commission concluded was possible and to an extent quantifiable. The conspiracy theories...well...not so much!
I would like to point out the location of the storm drain just behind the road sign. Where Kennedy is hit in the neck from the rear.
The storm drain is where the head shot came from.
Blood spray always fallows the path of the bullet & the blood spray is mostly up.
The forward motion of the car can add to the illusion of a front shot but the blood spray is up.
This possible head shot shooter location corresponds with the recorded audio of a motorcycle backfire at that moment as well.
TerryConspiracy 2 months ago
James E Files. Grassy Knoll shooter
TPBXDRicky420 9 months ago
@TPBXDRicky420 The directional problem with the grassy knoll shooter position is that the bullet would have traveled through JFK & exited into the head of Jackie O. as well, so if there was a shot from there, it did not hit the mark. The blood spray is up & that marks the path & direction of the bullet as well....up.
TerryConspiracy 2 months ago
@TPBXDRicky420 No the shooter was a mafia hitman and was positioned at the inside storm drain.
irishhellsangel 1 month ago
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JJBP14007 9 months ago
If you're a screwy Loonspirator, you believe the government messed with the Zapruder film, all the other movies taken in Dealey by individuals, television news, newspapers. You'd have to believe that the government was able to track every person with a camera, confiscate all the film, mess with it then give it back to the owners. They would have to be sure that all the "phoneyed" images all agreed with all the film taken.
Does this sound like a reasonable set of events?
autoad 1 year ago
They run intothe dsbd
onceANexile 1 year ago
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Here's what the wounding on the right/rear of the head looked like as the limo sped out of Dealey Plaza....
youtube.com/watch?v=WpM1P5TVdDc
Here from two Dealey Plaza films is the moment the wounding on the right rear of the head occurred...
youtube.com/watch?v=igMVdcT3FCo
Here's how the doctors/nurses at Parkland hospital were physically in a position at his head to observe that right/rear wounding
youtube.com/watch?v=0Qc4fhaBoxI
mimusremedium 1 year ago
there are two or three men running in opposite direction form the grassy knoll to the deppository building for me they are suspicious ones , interisting to note is that in one picture i saw in a police's uniform an emblem of the ku klux klan its a cross within a circle, check out pictures and you'll see it in the right arm, ku klux klan was founded by albert pike it has to do with freemasonry, dealey plaza its a headquaters of masons you can see the buildings, obelisk, the triangle etc.
carlosbonds2513 1 year ago
@carlosbonds2513 One is motorcycle Officer Marrion Baker, who encountered Oswald in the second floor lunchroom.
PC3900 1 year ago
I never knew there were so many films made the day he was assassinated----I always heard of zepruder film but not all the other ones---I've learned of two more films but none of them had the actual assassination on them as far as I know...neat to see even though the film is so blurry and deteriorated------history in action!
micmoable 1 year ago
0.18 two people running with what look like rifles in there hands
SuperBandstand 1 year ago
James Worrell Warren Commission Exhibit 363- saw a man with black hair in a suit run out the back door of the TSBD a few seconds after the shooting.
Arnold Rowland saw a man who was NOT Oswald with a 30 06 rifle in the southwest corner of the 6th floor.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
This clip is the most dramatic footage I have seen yet. For a city-boy, Oswald would have a difficult time with an M-1 Garrand. That mule kicks! And to have a sectert security clearance; working on a sectert radar base and 'defecting' right before Gary Power's incident, stopping the russian/american agreement, blah, blah, blah...Now we are in Afganistan where the heroin is. It just all makes sence to me now...
onceANexile 2 years ago
@onceANexile It's too bad Crouch and the camera car was placed behind the Presidential limousine where they could not film Kennedy being shot. Never happened before in any of the JFK motorcades. Just another one of those innocent mixups or maybe one of those "coincidences"
TrueNovice 2 years ago
@TrueNovice
Isn't it great how the media reports this......
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 When allowed any air time at all in the major media. anyone who might mentions any facts that don't point to Oswald as a lone gunman is a "conspiracy buff," usually it's followed by reference to people believing in UFO's. The press doesn't get much freer than that.
TrueNovice 1 year ago
In the first 2 seconds you can see a motorcycle parked near the car. If you're wondering, it's DPD officer Baker's.
smartalek65 2 years ago
@smartalek65 Officer Baker met a calm Oz in the lunchroom. Oz acted like nothing happened at the time convinced Baker that he was not a suspect.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
there is an awful alot of foliage at the grass knoll area, perfect place for a sniper ambush!
Apoic123 2 years ago
at the end of this clip it looks like a cop , weapon drawn is hovering over a couple of people. Are they the Newmans? Umbrella or Radio Man? Who are they?
TheTheme2002 2 years ago
@TheTheme2002 Many believe that Umbrella Man was Roy Hargraves & his cuban looking partner with the radio was Pelipe Vidal Santiago.Other members of Brigade 2506 are also photographed in Dealey Plaza that day,like Alfredo Duran & William RIP Robertson.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
@themeaningoflife38 Yes, well once you settle on Oz as the lone assassin, all that means is they wanted to watch the motorcade. And of course the CIA had a couple of photos of a guy who apparently tried to impersonate Oz at the Cuban and Soviet embassies in Mexico City, they never even tried to find out who he was. Never publicized the photo at all. It was really something.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
In a 2001 interview with Noel Twyman Roy Hargraves admitted that he was in Dallas on 11-22-63 along with Pelipe Vidal Santiago as part of a support team for the assassination.He also claimed that they acted on orders from CIA's JMWAVE station.
If you compare photos of Umbrella Man with Hargraves they certainly do look similar as well as Santiago.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
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Go to the video titled, Texas School Book Depository Employees - Part 3
At the 2:56 minute mark, you will see & hear James Jarman, Jr... He is the man who assassinated President Kennedy.
The two previous guys shown, Norman & Williams were co-conspirators. Along with Charles Douglas Givens (Not shown)...
Do an "MSN" search with the key words, James Jarman, Jr., Assassin, for the entire story... The 8th site listed, "The John F" is the most comprehensive...
freedomhill68 2 years ago
JC Price was on the roof of a building across from the TSBD and saw a man run from the fence around behind the TSBD.Dallas Officer DV Harkness encountered 3 well armed men behind the TSBD immediately after the shooting.They claimed to be SS agents and were let go.Officially there were no SS agents in Dealye Plaza.Shortly after the shooting Ft Worth Police stopped a car for speeding.The 3 men inside claimed to be SS agents rushing to New Orleans regarding JFK's murder.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Know what else J.C. Price claimed? That another shot was fired in Dealey Plaza as much as FIVE MINUTES after the others.
Feel free to substantiate the story about the SS agents "rushing to New Orleans" if you'd like.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
that is just so sad and unbelievable... to think that cop would just lay his bike down on the road like that... people just dont respect chrome anymore.
quasiphatpaul 2 years ago
Hehe, OK, that was funny. Rename this video "Dallas PD officer disrespects a classic Harley!"
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Sorry i meant 0:07- 0:10 , in the back running down the hill at fast speeds..
SkullFir3 2 years ago
That officer probably had a radio in his hand..
SkullFir3 2 years ago
Thats a fast ass MFer running at 00:09-00:11
SkullFir3 2 years ago
It looks like he's carring something in his left hand. Thsi is significant clip ever...
onceANexile 3 years ago
It looks like the guy in the suit has something in/under his coat...I have never seen this video in the 45 years I have seen these clips. This is one of the most significant clips I have seen yet. very Good,...Thank you.
onceANexile 3 years ago
there are 2 people running away from the GK! Ones in a suit...
onceANexile 3 years ago
wait a minute folks- whose the guy running away fast????
onceANexile 3 years ago
Hmmm, if only the Whore House owner wouldn't have killed the only potential witness. At least now they use "Deep Throat's", 'L'ewinski's and Chandra Levy's for political takedowns, so its not quite so blatently evil.
johnq123123 3 years ago
I feel sorry for the police officer on the grass holding his gun at the ready, in complete fear and confusion. That's how America has reacted and rightly so. As long as that which the American people elect can be taken away (2000 presidential election for one, see "Imperial America" by Gore Vidal), we do not live in a free or democratic country.
As long as there are cover-ups at the highest level, we will continue to be manipulated. Integrity - it's the only thing that matters.
BobLillo 3 years ago
I can only imagine what the officer was thinking probably "oh crap, where did that come from?" or "i'm stood here in full view/uniform am i next?"
fireamusmus 3 years ago
I recall reading somewhere, a theory that a shot came from the inside gutter. I have been there and looked at the gutter. It would definitely be an interesting angle although I was surprised at just how small the gutter was...
TonyHawkLookalike 3 years ago
It would be impossible to get off a shot from inside the sewer opening. Movement is so restricted in there that hitting a moving target would be virtually impossible.
The places to shoot from are on the knoll and from a low floor of the Dal-Tex building. Even the 6th floor window of the TSBD is not a great place from which to shoot at a car on Elm.
radio187 3 years ago
do some research on the net. Its not impossible at all, in fact multiple people have been down there and concluded that was indeed possible for a 6 foot tall man to have been down there with a rifle. The presidential vehicle would have been only feet away when passing by but far enough from the curve to give a perfect show of kennedy without compromising the lives of any others.
MrBrownstone1475 3 years ago
Brownstone... What I question about the Storm Drain Shooter, is whether there would be head clearance for someone shouldering a rifle shooting through a six inch tall slot when the top of that slot IS the slab ceiling of the storm drain box he's inside of. I've been in storm drains. I've stood at THAT one, watched a guy get inside it. I know you can get in there. But, target acquisition from that angle is very disadvantageous, especially if you don't want to be SEEN, compared to Oswald's perch.
satweavers 3 years ago
satweavers: That is a fair argument and I respect your opinion especially since you've actually been in that very storm drain. However, I don't know if you took into account the fact that the storm drain is no longer how it used to be in 1963. The slit used to be less wide and had a much bigger opening in terms of height. Honestly, I can't say I'm positive there was a sniper here, I just don't know. But others who have stood in it say it would have been possible to shoot the president from there
MrBrownstone1475 3 years ago
Brownstone..I didn't get in the drain. I looked down into it while a theorist climbed in on the 25 anniversary, 1988. I'd like to see someone in the drain sighting a rifle at the spot, seen from the Grassy Knoll to see how obvious the sniper would have to be while waiting for the limo. It's not pop up and shoot. How much time was the target visible as limo rounded the curve? The pipe from the box to larger sewer line would be 24" dia, OK for a 13 yr old, a squeeze for a grown man with a rifle.
satweavers 3 years ago
Actually, it turns out that the pipe draining the drain box is only 16 inches in diameter. You could slither through it like a turd through a colon, but it would be a VERY Slow escape. There are photographs on the net showing that you cannot see someone standing at Zapruder frame Z313 from the drain. One only comes into view at around Z361. Imperical evidence pushes aside all the theories one can imagine.
satweavers 3 years ago
It was also reported many years later that a pipe beneath the grassy knoll had a segment cut out of it, possibly to hide the murder weapon to be collected at a later date. Among the lesser credible testaments to this theory, yet should not be completely disregarded is that some claim one of the guns fired had a reverberation to it that sounded like it was inside a small chamber, eg a storm drain. Just some thoughts.
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cassapalooza 3 years ago
look at these last 3 posts! "Drain shots","LISTEN to the Zapruder film","Jackie shoots JFK", "Motorcycle cops stashes gun" That's why you can't get into a decent checkers game with these conpiracy whackos, let alone a debate.
pajasa62 3 years ago
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Jakie climbs up on the car to grab a piece of the Presidents brain that was on the trunk. Slow it down and watch the Z film. She reaches for something then ducks back into car. The shot came from the drain and clearly echos loudly!
daleworrall 3 years ago
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See the motorcyclecop at .22 see the storm drain in the sidewalk right in front of him? This is where the fatal shot came from. Listen to the Z film you can hear the distinct echo of the fatal shot. The murderer was in the drain and the traveled toward the river where it was reported and ignored that a man with gun was seen in that area.
daleworrall 3 years ago
The Zapruder film has no audio, you nutcase.
coolgamer1677 3 years ago 3
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why don't anyone stress how Jackie is reacting to all of this? She pops him, tosses the weapon and the cop on the left stops his bike to recover and stash it.
moultriegadog 3 years ago
OH YOU HAVE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!
I mean what's next Big Bird shot JFK. And Peter Griffin popped him instead of Jack Ruby!
I have believed some pretty big stories since I was 12 but that one takes the cake!
Blade5276 3 years ago
did the commies kill our beloved prez?they could have easily pulled this off.
nowaynobama 3 years ago
could someone have stood in the storm gutter at street level and make the final shot?
nowaynobama 3 years ago
That angle was proven to be good for nothing more than shooting out a tire for a car in the wrong lane...and I'm not trying to be funny by saying that. That "gutter shot" theory had no angle whatsoever and is just more conspiracy theory nonsense that "sounds good", but doesn't pan out.
pajasa62 3 years ago
Too bad all conspiracy theorists don't know (or admit) that Malcolm Couch, along with Pulitzer Prize winning photographer Bob Jackson saw the rifle being withdrawn from the 6th flr. sniper's nest while in the press cars in the motorcade. Jackson's reaction prompting Dallas Morning News' Tom Dillard to take a great photo of the southeast 5th & 6th flrs. (showing Norman, Jarmen and Williams seconds after they heard the shooting above them).
THAT, the conspiracy theorists ignore!
pajasa62 3 years ago
Yes Couch saw a rifle. That's why he did not film it.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
Oh wait. Jackson did not film it either.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
So what did you think prompted Tom Dillard to take his photograph with Norman, Williams and Jarmen STILL in the spots on the 5th flr? He just like the facade of the 5th and 6th flrs?
3 people on the 5th flr., 3 journalists in Camera Car 3, Howard Brennan and Amos Euins (both being referred to 5 minutes after the shooting on police transmissions). That's 8 corroborations toward the 6th flr. nest WELL BEFORE it was discovered by investigators. I guess they were just so richly bribed FOREVER!
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dmtsmokingman 3 years ago
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Mobilecheese 3 years ago
In the AOL search engine put in: 'gerald ford warren report'. Several webpages to read.
The first site is good. "Gerald Ford forced to admit the Warren Report fictionalized". It also shows the pic of the bloody shirt and jacket. The bullet hole location is impossible for going out the throat and into Connolly. It must travel UP if out the throat. Magic indeed. Obvious proof of hard credible conspiracy evidence.
The usual govt lie comeback is JFKs shirt was bunched up, the moment of the shot.
grassyknollkiller 3 years ago
every single one of these videos is meaningless for this point alone...they were all confiscated by the authorities and edited ..
537semigod 3 years ago
exactly
ambush923 3 years ago
You can see baker the cop running full speed at the TSBD.He's the one who spotted oswald on the second floor less than 90 seconds after the last shot.The fbi reenactments were another sick joke,they had howlett simulate everything BUT: WIPING off the rifle,and moving boxes to stash it? thats the key reason for doing the reenactment!And Baker in the reenactments was jogging,(scoffs)pathetic!
bouncer97 3 years ago
very true but they do tell something interesting - that the eye witnesses first instinct was to run to the knoll - not any of the bldgs - that means they heard something there and that alone proves there were multiple shooters
wkwickham 3 years ago
Or that they didn't want to be out in the street when someone was firing at them.
lurkersteve 3 years ago
But would they all run in the same direction to avoid fire or would they scatter?
clayp72 3 years ago
Well, look at the scene... you have the side of the road with the knoll and some trees. If someone is firing a rifle down at you, it's a good place to run and take shelter. You aren't going to run into the field or the road - the only alternatives.
There was also a police officer who was running up the knoll. Obviously, people think that the officer must be chasing the assassin, and they'd follow to watch - regardless of where they thought the shots came from.
lurkersteve 3 years ago
Yes.....!Someone else understand's!
44skins 3 years ago
on the last scene as the police man picks up his bike.... watch the guy behind him. what is he carrying from his hip... it sems to fire and recoil... but at what and why?
skeentv 3 years ago
Gee a total GOVER UP !
sneyder69 3 years ago
And what do we hear from the mainstream press? Nothing.
billp4 3 years ago 5
any of you ever go there?I was there in '74 before it was a tourist trap and I explored it everywhere.first off the vibes are real weird in certain spots,maybe it was my paranoia but lots of negative shit there.i went up by the railroad tracks,the old fence was still there then and it was a perfect shooters nest.actually there were about five really great spots to shoot from and get away quick since the more panic the better to get away.this didn't take much to plan,an idiot could have done it.
luckymazuma 3 years ago
lucky that is an interesting post thanks. Thing is an idiot could not have stood down the Secret Service and all the rest that happened...That took a conspiracy. Conspiracy isn't a loaded word as some make it, it only means two or more people plan it. It seems obvious to me that his trying to disband the CIA was his death warrant.
CaptchaU 3 years ago 3
i want to see the one the FBI confiscated
LeonaRulez 3 years ago
A Mr.Roland along with his wife described seeing two men on the 6th floor before the shooting.
florchpod 3 years ago
What 2nd man in the window? As far as I know there is no credible witness that stated that. 2 men were in the 7th floor window, could it be a mix up? Please tell me were your info came from I would like to see it.
Many people saw 1 man in the window holding a rifle- thought he was SS.(read Death Of A President) Why is it so hard to believe the 90 second thing when it has been proven possible. There is some much evidence pointing to O and none supporting conspircy. y
luddydudey 4 years ago
the 90 second thing as you say was never proven because the fbi left out key aspects.howlett just placed the gun down(not carefully conceal like oswald apparently did)didnt wipe prints.AND baker was practically jogging in the reenactments in this film you see him haul ass!
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
We can argue the 90 second thing all day so let's move on. Why did he suddenly leave the building? He said he thought they had the rest of the day off but shouldn't he have asked? Why did he go home and get a pistol?
Weird behavior if he just got an extended weekend. Why did he shoot a cop? Why did he Did he need a gun to see a movie? Why was he doing things differently the night before? Why was he in the window with his rifle that he got from the garage the night before?
indexan 4 years ago
Yeah Weird behavior that could have meant anything,how do you know he didnt leave because he realized he was possibly set up?why did he empty the 3rd round if he didnt intend to use the rifle again?why didnt he bring the pistol to work?No proof that the murder weapon is even his rifle or that he took it from the garage,and listen to the only man to id oswald in the window AFTER he saw him on t.v and learned he had communist sympathies real credible.
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Dont you find it odd that no one EVER SAW oswald with a large package enter that building or with it IN or even around one in the building?The guy who drove him there made up the story of oswald bringing a package saying ''there curtain rods''listen to his testimony he was clearly told to give that story BEFORE,then his wife confirms it..ha yeah,lol
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Oswald could have sneaked the rifle into the truck before dawn, return after arriving at work and sneaked it in unnoticed. His wifeknew he had a rifle in the garage and it was gone that day. No one ever proved the rifle wasn't his,
indexan 4 years ago
indexan one pristine bullet traveling through two bodies and sets of bones making hairpin turns and defying gravity...that's what you believe? Oswald with a single rifle? Is that what they are teaching in schools now? Hard to believe.
CaptchaU 3 years ago
Howcome there isnt anything on the net about him lying about the cutianrods? Why do conspicry theory supporters have to lie to get their point across?
luddydudey 4 years ago
Oswald had spent a lifetime proving himself to be too unrealible to be in a major conspircy that would set him up.
Emptying the 3rd round was a reaction. He went to visit his wife Thurs. night and left the pistol at home, might be fired a day early if he was caught with it at work. At least 1 witness saw Oswald in the window BEFORE the shooting. He tap his wife on the shoulder pointed to him and said "look an SS man" (Read Death Of a President)
indexan 4 years ago
How do you that he didn't purchase the coke ahead of time and plant it along his route to help his alibi?
indexan 4 years ago
it doesnt matter IND we are to believe oswald admired his final shot,emptied the final chamber squeezed out of the snipers nest,ran 100+feet, wiped the fingerprints, carefully stash the rifle (moving boxes to place it, then conceal it) GO BACK to the stairwell go down 4 flights of stairs across the second floor into the lunchroom..less than 90 seconds..and not be out of breath?IMPOSSIBLE..fbi's howletts reenactment continued the cover up.
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Marrion L Baker is clearly seen racing into the Book Depository. He saw Oswald on the 2nd floor with a minute and a half.
Oswald had hid the weapon and descended 4 floors is 90 seconds?
Nope.
Patsy.
GravityBoy72 4 years ago
EXACTLY gravity this encounter proved to me someone was up there with oswald,or maybe he was a patsy..impossible any other way.
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Oswald had them time to hide the rifle and descend 4 floors. It has been done by others.
indexan 4 years ago
90 seconds or perhaps less.
Wipe and hide the rifle, descend four flights of stairs, buy a coke.
Nah.
GravityBoy72 4 years ago
So then who was the guy that matched Oswald discription in the window?Why did he have Oswald's rifle? Why wasn't anyone found in the building that wasn't suppose to be there? Why was Oswald the only one to leave? Why did He visit his wife unannounced on Thursday night? Why was his rifle missing from the garage? Why did he tell his ride the package was curtain rods? Why weren't curtians found in the warehouse? Why did he need curtain rods when his apartment already had them?
indexan 4 years ago
Who was the guy? Good question. Who were the two guys in the window according to witnesses?
Oh and Oswald supposedly rearranged the boxes in the 90 seconds between the shooting and the encounter with Baker.
Nope.
GravityBoy72 4 years ago
Why were kennedys two rear protecion Secret Ser. MEN asked to standdown as the CAR turned onto Dealy Plaza( which would have blocked a clear shot on Jfk(see the video on youtube Secret service standdown). First and only time these two guys were told not to ride( they testified that it broke protocol and that the plaza offered numerous spots for a sniper. I dont believe the drain theory but the HEAD shot came from the right and front as the force blows him back and left twoards jackie.
salvadory 4 years ago
They were told to stand down because it was an inside job, just like 9/11. Marvin Bush getting away with killing Bertha Champagne in his front yard, the article is in the Washington Post Archives, it's no 'theory'. And you can just google Marvin Bush and see his connections to 9/11. You can hear Dan Rather and Peter Jennings both describing the impossibility of Building 7 collapsing due to 'fire' on 9/11.
CTTBA 3 years ago
That is horribly disrespectful to one of the greatest tragedies of our times. And someday I hope you get shot and made fun of.
digglefallen93 4 years ago
answers will be found @
Dr.John Coleman committee of 300
calmemaggie 4 years ago
You said it! What drives me nuts is how people think they are educated on the subject because they've seen that Oliver Stone garbage. Though if they can't be "entertained" then it wouldn't hold their interest anyway.
pajasa62 4 years ago 4
Look up Marvin Bush's ties to key 9/11 locations and companies, and also the cold blooded murder of Bertha Champagne, his housekeeper in his own front yard...and ask yourself why the news isn't reporting that? What do we have in the White House? A terrorist who was behind 9/11. People show up dead as a warning to others to keep quiet. Our press is being controlled here, just like during Kennedy's time.
CTTBA 4 years ago
now we're getting somewhere....
luckymazuma 3 years ago
If James Files is a liar, he's a damn good one and I believe him.
lyden2006 4 years ago
Yeah that cop was looking for his fellow rats down the drain. lol It is amazing what people will see ! Did you see the sasquatch and the yetti in the tree ? near the lady in the grey dress who turned her back. lmao People are strange.
Take care and stay well :-)
dazlemwithlight 4 years ago
How come all 5five police officers said the gun found in the book depository was a Mauser originally, than all but one recanted when drilled by the FBI. Also, was seen leaving the book depository in a car.
judarama 4 years ago
Only the "wrong track".
Watch the Zapruder-film and you at least see
one killer in the film - the one sitting next to JFK and shooting him in the back of his head.
I can't believe why the americans doesn't see this on the film - are you blind?
BillyBoysing 4 years ago
what do you mean? the one sittin next to him was his wife..
GeekG 4 years ago
I am not a tugh guy and this was not a tough shot. In tests experts were able to hit the kill shot in 47 out of 50 attemps. the only 3 misses were when they tried to dry fire the rifle. Go to any marines trainig ground and ask them how hard it is to hit a target moving at 11 mph away on a decline only 88 yards away. I will not insult CT i will respectfully respond constructively
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
People this was not a tough shot. In the marines he was tested at 100 200 300 and 500 yards. He hit 49 of 50. Kennedy was only 88 years going 11 miles an hour. Charles Whitman killed 17 poeple from the tower at the University of Texas. From as far as 3 blocks away wile being shot at by police. He also was trained by the marines. Not a tough shot by any means.
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
give it up tough guy
537semigod 4 years ago
Oswald wasn't known for his accuracy he was mediocre at best.
schmidt50lt 4 years ago
Classic Oliver Stone "JFK" dribble. Oswald reached the level of "sharpshooter" in the marines (His scorebooks prove it)He could rapidfire with accuracy from 200 yards away. More than twice the distance of the head shot. It is sad how many people take all their knowledge of this event from that stupid movie.
pajasa62 4 years ago 2
And who can forge Oswald's scorebooks? George W. Bush admitted his step-dad shot JFK to me in 1971.
TogetherinParis 4 years ago
Really, why bother even replying?
pajasa62 4 years ago
While scouring the footage of the JFK assasination i've been trying to find further footage of Rosemary Willis the girl seen in both the Dorman and notably the Zapruder footage.Between seconds 4 and 6 of the Couch film,is this the back of her i see walking amongst the crowd?
DJDiscovery1 4 years ago
where is teh surging crowd ??
personalyl I think the three shots came from teh book depositary, not a dofficult shot for a marksman like Oswald.
deadlychickenxop 4 years ago
look at cop on bike last shot
he is trying to set his bike at same time as looking down the drain [where the shot came from],wish the film was 5 seconds longer
who is the cop?[front rider could have seen the shooters smoke come from the drain
cop is obsessed with staring at the drain
ioneundergod 4 years ago 2
was oswald an alien? how was he not out of breath in less the 90 seconds after,wiping fingerprints,while going 100= feet,carefully stash and conceal it,go down 4 flights of stairs and not be breathing heavy? was oswald a prophet too? since everyone knew when kennedy would arrive 12:25 how did oswald know he would be 5 minutes late? did oswald super human sight? i mean too make that shot under stress, a moving target with a busted scope. yeah no conspiracy
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
it gets even worse there is a secretary on you tube vidio here somewhere saw him in a solicitors office at the time, its pathetic to see him screaming for a lawyer before he was conveniantly eliminated by jack ruby
but its time to move on , we got real and present dangers here and now
oswald was an alian[ated] loner and a patsie[you gotta feel sorry for his kids with everyone thinking thier pop was a murderor when he was just a lost dude
1underGOD 4 years ago
Classic. Who ever said Oswald's scope was as you say "busted". His flight from the shooting to (forget downstairs, which according to you is like running a marathon)the theatre has been demonstrated a hundred times and it was VERY doable. And you other point, if JFK is 5 minutes late are you assuming Oswald is just going to take his "curtain rods" and go home? When he does tell him to scrub both hands so maybe the parrafin tests won't come back positive.
pajasa62 4 years ago
just because it is doable dont mean it is so
kenedy was shot from down low ,the spray patern indicates that as the back of his head was blown off
the cop not standing his bike up is eager to get to the drain [but 4 feet infront of his bike
ask him what he saw
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
Yeah the BACK of his head as your theory goes down this DRAIN of yours.
pajasa62 4 years ago
A guy just fell from 500ft from a fuckin sky scraper a couple of weeks ago and survived and he's not even in a fuckin wheel chair so that's DOABLE but let's see if your monkey ass can do it. I'm sure quite a few ppl can survive that fall just like i'm sure quite a few ppl can do all that bullshit that Oswald supposedly did. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT FUCKIN BULLSHIT. Something very fishy happened on this day and that's all there is to it.
illslogic 4 years ago
Not TOO childish.
pajasa62 4 years ago
WOW,for you not to know that that was disproven is sad. The only shot that was good for would have been a rat running along the curb. And please you people,stop with these "puffs of smoke"-this event happened in 1963 not 1863.
pajasa62 4 years ago 2
jfk was sitting[so was below standing height ]
about level of 4/5 feet off the ground
his head is leaning a bit forward,
jfk signed [3 days before] presidential order 11.110 [or 11.111]
read it
its still reverberating but govt [jfk]bought back the bank but to hush it down got brought down from on low, then the selouts sold out thier common weal
1oneundergod1 4 years ago
Just for the sake of expanding your horizons why don't you focus on REALITY. It's been proven that a head can barely peep out of that drain only viewing cars wheels and bumpers in the right lane only as the car was a few feet from the drain...... NO ROOM to seriously aim at anything than blowing out a tire...for a car in the wrong lane!
pajasa62 4 years ago
CDDCRAFTSMAN-EXPERT IN BULLSHIT.
torpedodropkick 4 years ago
To : torpedodropkick
Was that a attempt to fire your torpedo's at the enemy ? Sounds like one got stuck in the tube , you YOUBOOBTUBE baffoon ! Heheheheheheh ! He has a hard time finding his own socks in the morning and he thinks he's going to find out who killed JFK ! Hahhahahahahahah ! Funny as funny can be !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Torpedo one fire! LOL How you know I lost my socks this morning. You must be a CIA agent , spying on me. LOL
torpedodropkick 4 years ago
To : torpedodropkick
Forget the socks , check your alphabet cereal , if you see 'conspiracy' formed by letters when you add your milk , drop your spoon , head to the car and go directly to the nearest shrink .....usually a good dose of librium or thorezen will clear up your problem immediately . Good luck .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
So now your a doctor. I think you need to analyze why cannot deal with my brilliance and superb arguments.
torpedodropkick 4 years ago
To : torpedodropkick "brilliance and superb arguments"
Analysis complete . When do we start ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Heheheheheheh! He has a hard time finding his own socks in the morning and he thinks he's going to find out who killed JFK ! Il a beaucoup de mal à trouver ses propres chaussettes le matin et il pense qu'il va savoir qui a tué JFK!.J'aime beaucoup l'humour US,je me marre hi,hi,hi!!!!!!!
jloup95 3 years ago
The scene of the man running after Officer Marion Baker as he runs towards the TSBD steps has been edited out of this film in the versions shown on TV & cable dating back to tmwkk. Compare theirs to this one! The edit is where the little boy runs across the street in front of Couch.
Is the man running after Baker Truly, Oswald or someone else?
pbracy1 4 years ago
anim8 is absolutely right. The second or third shooter was hidden in the storm drain, and you wonder why that officer stopped RIGHT there, RIGHT nearly in front of it, you wonder unless he knew that something was happening in there. 5/5
jen0619 4 years ago
To : jen0619
The storm drain is a impossible shot ! Anyone who's been down in there knows this . Stop peddling messages of hate for your own self glorification !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
That's strange because the History Channel covered this in their "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" series some years ago, and the man who claimed to have been an assassin had the camera to show the perspective if someone was in the storm drain; it was a perfect angle for any shot above the chest.
jen0619 4 years ago
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To : searcherboy "Forensic testing"
Possible , but with the additional suite of evidence all pointing towards searcherboy's lover and RED ROMEO LHO the probability's of the R&G study bringing closet homo-communists closer to their cherished dream of exonerating a presidential and police murderer and getting him elected Honorary Mayor of Dallas is extremely remote ! I think all would agree with my analysis !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Ignore cdddraftsman, he's just messin with yer head. If you want to know where the other shots came from, there is on YouTube, interviews with eyewitnesses who describe shooting from the grassy knoll. Ignore the flawed Warren Report. Get it from the source. Search for SM Holland. Only the government could cover that up.
EddieJHamilton 4 years ago
To : EddieJHamilton "Ignore cdddraftsman"
Witnesses Make Wild and Wacky Statements
Anybody who reads the unfiltered and unselected witness testimony will quickly find that even honest sober witnesses have wild, wacky, and often downright bizarre elements in their testimony. Consider, for example : Sam Holland, who thought that after Kennedy was shot Jackie "jumped up and tried to get over in the back seat to him."
Hahahaaha ! What a bozo Eddie is !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
CTRL+C and CTRL+V are your best friends, huh? Wake up on the wrong side of your parents couch? You seem very cranky.
HoneyNVinegar 4 years ago
To : HoneyNVinegar
To be honest I like telling the truth about the assassination and people who try to distort it . Whats your excuse ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
What's my excuse for... what? Make some sense out of what you just said. What is my excuse, and for what is my excuse for? What stream of consciousness are we working with here, exactly?
HoneyNVinegar 4 years ago
To : HoneyNVinegar
Don't try to act coy with me . If you don't like my style , just say so , I'm a big boy , I promise not to start crying . To say someone is cranky seems a little wishy washy to me . Sounds like the person who's saying it is a lot cranky to be honest .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Your 'style' consists of going on every single JFK vid, commenting angrily to people that don't agree with you by copy/pasting every single comment you've writ in every single comment section... so yea, your 'style' kinda blows. And saying you're cranky is 'wishy-washy'? What's wishy-washy about it?
When you come up with better comebacks, drop me a line.
HoneyNVinegar 4 years ago
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To : HoneyNVinegar
What are you doing here ? Nitting and Nitpicking section is two video's over to your left . Hop along now , unless you have a comment on the JFK Assassination ......HELLO ? ANYBODY HOME ? Geesh...! I never knew mixing honey and vinegar could make someone so cranky ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To : HoneyNVinegar
As far as this 'stream of consciousness' bs goes , I think it's for birds and people who use that type of language usually don't know the difference between a stream , river , delta or a estuary . Get it ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Oh dear. "People who use that type of language". It's language--if you don't know what it IS, that's not my fault.
Do you think you're putting me down? Like... your comebacks are really good? Because they're very, very lame.
"Get it?" LOL. You're a joke.
HoneyNVinegar 4 years ago
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To : HoneyNVinegar
Why didn't you just say so in the first place . Your a roving attack poodle who criticises people who criticise others . What a wonderful vocation . You don't comment on the JFK Assassination ....HELLO ? .....ANYBODY HOME ? YOU do remember this is all about the JFK Assassination don't you ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To All :
The storm drain is a impossible shot ! Anyone who's been down in there knows this . Stop peddling messages of hate for your own self glorification !
Dr. Marvin Fackler has reproducted CE-399 with a downloaded MC 6.5mm round (1000fps) ! Proves your full of shit ! Wrong ! Dr. Lattimer did a similar experiment and his lead lost out of bullet prodyced 41 fragments , JBC had only 4 fragments removed !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
This film clearly shows the storm drain where the second shooter was hiding. He was NOT on the grassy knole. You see the cop pick up his motorcycle, which was used to help hide the gun sticking out from the storm drain.
anim8er2 4 years ago
Connally wasn't killed, so he couldn't have been autopsied. So what did the autopsy physician have to do with Connally?
furryisthenewedgy 4 years ago
If you believe Oswald was the lone gunman, you have to believe that one ordinary bullet caused 7 exit and entry wounds, passed through a rib and radius bone, and emerged with no distortion or damage - a physical impossibility. The only alternative to this absurd theory is that other shots were fired by at least one other gunman.
searcherboy 4 years ago
You need to see the Discovery Channel's "Unsolved History" show where this supposedly "impossible" feat was reproduced almost exactly.
furryisthenewedgy 4 years ago
The autopsy physician could not account for something very strange about the 'magic bullet'. The bullet supposedly ended up in Conally's thigh, where it became lodged just below the skin. Yet fragments, supposedly from this same pristine bullet, travelled through the thick muscles of the thigh and were imbedded in the femur. This fact, glossed over in the Warren Report, seriously weakens the official version of the assassination.
searcherboy 4 years ago
To : searcherboy
Wrong ! Dr. Lattimer did a similar experiment and his lead lost out of bullet prodyced 41 fragments , JBC had only 4 fragments removed !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Many bullet fragments were not removed. The Warren Commission report refers to post-op X-rays of Connally's wrist showing bullet fragments which were left in situ. Connally's family refused requests to remove, weigh and test these fragments after he died.
searcherboy 4 years ago
To : searcherboy "Many bullet fragments"
The big ones that they removed during surgery weighed less than a postage stamp !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To : searcherboy
Your Momma's calling ! Dr. Marvin Fackler has reproducted CE-399 with a downloaded MC 6.5mm round
(1000fps) ! Proves your full of shit !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
The Warren Commission was not unanimous on the single-bullet theory. Senators Russell & Cooper, and Rep. Boggs stated it did not fit the evidence.
searcherboy 4 years ago
To : searcherboy
Senators Russell & Cooper, and Rep. Boggs all signed off on the report and that's history my boy !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Forensic testing of the bullet fragments, shown in the Warren Commission as having a high probability of proving a single bullet, has been discredited. NAA tests (Neutron Activation Analysis) performed after the Warren Commission, thought at the time to confirm SBT, has been proven to be unreliable. Comparative bullet lead analysis, including NAA is no longer used by the FBI or the courts.
searcherboy 4 years ago
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To : searcherboy "Forensic testing"
The R&G study that supposedly debunked the NAA was a political stunt that a left wing judge took too seriously ! Proposing that anywhere between 2 to 5 bullets could account for all the bullet fragments is as usefull as saying : A man on the moon shot JFK .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
this film was taken no more than 15 seconds after the fatal head shot, and clearly shows Marrion Baker running toward the front of the TSBD. Anyonw who believes the lone gunman theory is dilusional. There is no way Oswald was on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting.
richievan1 5 years ago
Stripping it down to basics, every thing the Warren Commission concluded was possible and to an extent quantifiable. The conspiracy theories...well...not so much!