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  • still fuckin rippin 30 years later! UP THE IRONS!!!

  • ~in my best Joker (Jack Nicholson) voice~ Where do they get those wonderful riffs?

  • God is love

  • I'm Christian, but I wish to solve the problems of the world like unemployment, debt, and starvation through the means they need to be solved through. Logic. Christianity is a religion. God wants nothing to do with our government, only our love.

  • I'm Christian.God is great.He is my holy father and shield.I don't care what you think!

  • FUCK RELIGION STFU AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC!!

  • All I see in the comments is a bunch of people who seem to have more balls that brains... Science and logic are fact that cannot be denied, but mankind has screwed it up in horrendous ways. God's sitting up in heaven shaking his head in sadness and cranking up the Irons so he doesn't have to listen to you.

    Do you really want to start another war? Please! Tell me what love is.

  • What's with all the dislikes? Are there people who seriously just go around to songs and MAKE SURE they have at least 1 Dislike?

  • Famine, death and war, and the argument going on among you guys... Religion HAS a lot to answer for :P

  • All religion is based on personified astronomy. Your argument is invalid.

  • mia akoma kommatara tous!

  • dislikers shall be crucified

  • Fuckiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii­iiiing dislikers has found this song !@

  • @TorTheFlame it sounds more realistic because of what society deems to be realistic. If you said why you believe the earth was made millions of years ago 500 years ago it would sound completely unrealistic, why, because of what society deemed to be realistic. The realism of theories is deemed by nothing other than society's conception of reality. If a majority of people in the world were scientologist than the scientologist creation story would e deemed realistic, but because only celebrities n

  • @theKScott89 and dinosaurs were around when God made the world under 20000 years ago. Explain dinosaur bones with DNA in them if DNA goes away in 10000 years. People used to call them dragons before the word dinosaur was made. You can't deny that the things people believed in long ago calle dragons looked like dinosaurs. They died out in a flood. Have you ever been presented with evidence that the earth was made billions of years ago. You were just told that by scientists and accepted it. I was

  • @d3ltadrive Dude, depending on how well the DNA has been preserved, they could last forever... Also, you can see that they're related to other animals through THEIR DNA. Also, I'm studying to be a scientist and could clearly explain how the earth was made and sound WAY MORE realistic than some freaking book made over a thousand years...

    Damn you guys need to start going to school.

  • @TorTheFlame amen bro.... amen, and soon we'll manipulate dna to make fish with fotosynthesis :D byebye global warming mwhuahhaa ... oh btw i'm gonna study for biotechnology (dna alteration and observation)

  • @ProphetRmP AMEN IS A SHORT FORM AMEN RA F.Y.I. LIVE FREE ONE LOVE AND MAINTAIN 360 LORD LIVE PROSPEROUS ;)

  • You guys all sound ignorant fighting over religion and science while if you knew what religion was you would know that science is religion. Religion just means you do the same thing over and over again. Football Sunday is a religion. Hell, even Iron Maiden is a religion for me. You guys just need to stop talking shit and stop trying to outsmart each other. Let's all just get together and "worship" the great Eddie. Raise your voices ans up your irons!!!

  • @d3ltadrive god is some made up crap, science is real

  • @d3ltadrive How dumb can you be? Its pretty simple to work out that the earth is much much older than your saying. The core of the earth is hot, the surface is cold. It stands to reason the earth was created at a fairly uniform temperature and has then cooled from the outside (¬3K) to its current, using that you can see that taking the rate of heat transfer away from the earth (not including the energy coming in from the sun) gives about 80,000 years and thats a massive under estimat

  • @MikePegg11 I was Catholic when I posted on this video about the earth being 6000 years old, but then I took a bible to the knee.

  • @theKScott89 God is divine and beyond our understanding I can't explain how he got there he was always there so now you explain how anything exists without a God you say big bang but what was before that to cause it. And how did that get there. If there is no God there would be nothing, nothing would have began. It can't have just always been there and it can't get there with a cause so you explain existence without God. It's not possible. And by the way in the book of illijia there is a prophe

  • @d3ltadrive lol, god is divine and beyond our understanding. ture enough, i mean look at what the bible says about him? all knowing? ok,but then why did he create life which he should know would fail to meet his expectations, then flood the world to wash sin away? did it work? why hasnt there been a flood since?kind of flawed, seems to me like he likes to just cause harm.except it is also unrealistic to beleive in him.that fucking book makes no sense whatsoever, it contradicts itself many times

  • @TheKScott89 cause he wanted to beat the devil, when somebody tries to over throw you, you try to beat him. and he tried the flood, but the people were all stupid so they went back to sinning. then he sent his son to die for the sins. then the people were good for a while but now their bad so hes letting us all kill each other now. (past 100 years has seen a huge increase in war, many of which were worse than any before it).

  • @d3ltadrive LMFAO. that makes alot of sense. an omnipitent and allknowing god would "try" the flood , to overthrow the devil? he couldn't just blink the devil out of existence? he also must have known it wouldn't work, he's fucking god right? sent his son to die for their sins.. WHY, YOU FUCKING RETARD, IT'S GOD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'S UNNECESSARY, I WOULD FUCKING THINK.let us all kill ourselves?but he loves us right?most of us will go to hell?why would he create such pain?he loves us..

  • @TheKScott89 he creates pain for justice, he doesnt want anyone to go to hell. he didnt want hitler to go to hell but hitler went and killed 12 millions jews gays gypsies blacks and other minorities and tried to take over the world, so the devil got his soul and now that incompitant fag is burning in hell

  • @d3ltadrive lol, there is no talking to you people. and not that i commend hitler or anything, but he most definitely was anything but incompetent.

  • @TheKScott89 he was good at propaganda and creating a cult of personality, but when it came to military operations he was extremely incompetent, he had many chances to take over Britain that he didn't do, he attacked russia when he had them as an ally, and he lost the battle of Normandy because he decided to concentrate all his panzers in the area he thought the operation would come from without any thought of the attack coming from anywhere else. plus his command structure was awful

  • @TheKScott89 if i had more that 500 characters to use i would explain things more in depth but you can do the research your self, or just watch the military channel about 75% of the time they have a world war 2 documentary on

  • And all because of it you'd think

    that we would learn

    But still the body count the city fires burn

    Somewhere there's someone dying

    in a foreign land

    Meanwhile the world is crying stupidity of man

    Tell me why, tell me why

  • Guys, guys, did you know that monkeys, gorillas, kangaroos, dogs, etc masturbate O_o hmmm I wonder why???

  • It's sad how the song talks about ppl fighting over religion and you look down at the comments and you see just that. I'm not religious but I'm not against it either because ignorance is bliss and it gives ppl hope. My only god is love.

  • @brasil91768 ...Ignorance is bliss? So you just contradicted yourself, stating that you're not against religion, but religious people are ignorant? Hypocrit.

  • @LimeGuy101 Let me give you an example: I am not against fatass Santa Clause for the simple reason that he keeps my demon brother from misbehaving for a month. He's happy because he thinks that if he behaves, he would get a reward for his behavior. We can say the same thing about religion. My mother is a Catholic, when she had cancer she turned to Jesus Christ for help. It made her think that she was in good hands and boosted her morale. Yes they are ignorant, not necessarily a bad thing though.

  • @brasil91768 Well said. :)

  • Most likely, God bears zero resemblance to human beings or any other living thing, and doesn't really care what you believe. Like Jethro Tull said, we've locked God in a golden cage. There's really no use arguing about it. I'm sure the guys from Iron Maiden would want us to listen to the music instead of bitching about religion, atheism, etc. Even if there is no God, religion is still very interesting (think of it as literature) and can make good song lyrics. So just shut up and enjoy!

  • Its easy to think there isn't a god. It would also be a nice thought At TIMES. But its untrue.

  • Sometimes it seems more like the blind leading the blind! So much truth.

  • Simply... AWESOMEEEEEEE!!!!

    UP THE FUCKING IROOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNSSSSSS­SS

  • We can discover the deeds of God in our lives when we want it trully.

  • You can't prove God exists just as you can't prove he doesn't... so let it go. Religious beliefs can't make one person smarter than the other. To claim to know all is to know nothing.

  • @KarimBoctorAwad But the problem is when people try to apply religion to public social, ethical, and political issues. I'd rather go with logical reasoning as opposed to a certain set of religious beliefs that may or may no be true.

  • @Tigerbeetweenie I would go with logical reasoning aswell to be honest, but our logic has any many chances of being flawed as others' religious beliefs can be untrue.

  • @KarimBoctorAwad yea, but when your father dies when your 6 while he was a theology gruaduate, kinda makes you wonder. if hes up there he hates me. if he isn't, its just missfortune. anywho life will suck with or without religion,

    science without religion has no morals, religion without science is blind.

  • for those of u who do or dont believe u will truly find out when u die!, so live ur lives the way u do not worryin' bout petty comments on the internet ....... Anyways should of wrote this 1st but this song is absoloutly brilliant.....much love 2 Maiden UP THE IRONS !!!!

  • Sorry guys and gals but Youtube has deleted yet another one of my videos. One more video and my account might be suspended. Please note this in case my channel is unaviable.

    Kind regards //TorTheFlame

  • Song is good till 3.42

    And guys, I don't know why you fight on youtube so much... If he believes, let him believe and vice-versa. I mean, that's the stupidity of man that Iron Maiden are talking about. We, the people will fight over everything no mater what that thing is. Live and let live! shish

  • for feck's sake!: all this over the simple name "God" in the title of this track?

    LOL, i wonder if the title would fool a Christian or some other religiouse folk.

  • why does EVERYBODY fight over stupid shit? forget the fighting lets listen to the music and bring everybody together

  • @daviddoncelladehierr

    If you don't mind me answering, and please don't get angry from this because it is fruitless as it is pointless, if you have read the Bible, it says that we have pushed God away so many times, He simply decided to sit and wait until we go back to Him. He won't come to us anymore seeing as we have turned Him down so many a time. Hopefull this has answered your question and once more, don't get angry. I simply tried to answer your question.

  • I was a huge fan of Maiden in my early teens, but lost track of them after "Fear Of the Dark".

    I am now rediscovering them, and can't believe how awesome this album is. I've been obsessed with it for days.

    Up the Irons!!!

  • If you dont believe that there is a greater power than not only are you stupid, you have no idea of anything, everything comes from something, and if some people are too stupid to see that I want to meet you on the battlefield when the world ends.

  • @TheDenswang "energy can neither be created nor destroyed: it can only be transformed from one state to another", so I've gotta agree with you about how things are unable to come from nothing, such as a god.

  • @TorTheFlame Yeah but you dont reply to my comment...everything comes from something, science proves that, but for the smarter people, we dont have to see what we believe

  • @TheDenswang Wait, what?!

    So your trying to say that "the smarter people" doesn't have to see what they believe?

    Saying you dont have to see what you believe is just stupid.

  • @TorTheFlame So your saying you can't think? can you see ideas? can you see emotion? can you see anything thats not abstract but is still there? you dont need to see it to know its true.

  • @TheDenswang No, I'm saying that your quote "but for the smarter people, we dont have to see what we believe" make no sense at all.

  • @TorTheFlame Well, it does make sense, it just wasn't worded very well, but it makes sense, just kinda' hard to understand.

  • @TheDenswang

    you can see emotions.

    if somebody is upset, or happy or something like that you can see that in there face.

    for alot of things god is the answer for what we don't know.

  • @TorTheFlame ever heard of a nuclear reaction? energy can be created. e=mc^2, not that this has anything to do with god,

  • @TheDenswang if u believe there is a god you are stupid if there was a god dont u think he wouldent let so many things happen and religion is just for people who want something to cry to

  • @NeyesDe do you have a brain? if you do, and im sure you do, can you see your brain? can you feel your brain? you cant see or touch it, but you know its there, so stop bieng so fucking ignorant toward God, just because you cant see him doesnt mean he exists, take a look out side, the flowers growing, god is behind that, your very ignorant heart that is beating, god is behind that, religion gives us hope, and for your sinner ass youll burn in hell, the things that go on, is a test of faith.

  • @spiderman3RCKS I could both feel AND touch my brain if I were to just open my skull.. If you would have finished school, you too would know how a flower blooms.

    I think people should be less ignorant against science.

  • @TorTheFlame yeah and ud be fucking dead therefor you cant feel it or touch, dumbfuck

  • @spiderman3RCKS Actually, lobotomies don't kill.... most the time, but I doubt he would be conscious to the fact that his skull has been opened up or he'd be in shock. But still my point is... he wouldn't exactly die if properly sedated, and he didn't go into shock.

  • @spiderman3RCKS id rather burn in hell the suck gods dick like chirstains do shove the cross up your ass and use holy water as your lube hail satan

  • @spiderman3RCKS Retard. I have one word for you. You ready? DINOSAUR. owned.

  • @TheKScott89 they were made along with everything else at the time of adam and eve, then when God got pissed they all drowned that would explain why they keep finding bones not fossils, with dna in them which according to science goes away in 10000 years.

  • @d3ltadrive You are fucking stupid...

  • @TheKScott89 also heres one word for you EXISTANCE, explain that without divinity, cant say stuff was always there that contradicts time and space, cant say it just got there everything has a cause, only thing that can beat that, something thats divine

  • @d3ltadrive Dude, it's always been there... It's called the Big Bang.

  • @d3ltadrive How would you then explain to me GOD'S EXISTANCE???? science has proven how everything got here. and then that the earth restarted 4 times already, with different species. it will do so again, there will be an apocolypse in a millin or so years, but you know where we are not going? heaven, hell. Words created to control people. you are a fucking tool.Notice how there has been no expanding on the bible? it was written, it is, and that's it. you beleive(retard)waste your life,givemoney

  • @spiderman3RCKS I am almost tired of explaining to youtube retards how retarded these retarded fucks are. HOW CAN YOU CLAIM THAT WE WIL GO TO HELL BECAUSE WE DON'T BELEIVE IN GOD? IF YOU BELEIVE IN GOD AND YOU ARE SO RIGHTEOUS, TELLING PEOPLE THEY WILL GO TO HELL ISN'T VERY FUCKING CHRISTIAN.....ANd holy fuck, if there was a god do you think there would be a hell? creates all these beings knowing that the majority of us will go to hell?? very loving. how mighty, and divine.

  • @TheKScott89 Also, the Bible never mentions any hell, the pope "created" it to scare people into for example buying indulgence. You've gotta be pretty fucking brainwashed or retarded to buy that crap. Atleast the Bible made sense a thousand years ago, the pope never did.

  • @TorTheFlame It is referred to as "The Lake of Fire" in the Bible.

  • @spiderman3RCKS you make me so fucking angry. calling someone ignorant, and in the same sentence you say"you can't see or touch your brain, but you know it's there..stop being ignorant about god" FUCK YOU!! SCIENCE!!!!!!IS WHY WE KNOW WE HAVE BRAINS!!! take a look outside, the flowers growing god is behind that? how do you know this? read it in a book once? one book tells you this, but thousands of scientific books disagree?oh, but this book says if you don't beleive you will burn in hell.

  • @spiderman3RCKS did you know that the bible was written a few centuries before they discovered dinosaur fossils?also,there is no mention of dinosaurs in the bible?the opening paragraph of the bible "in seven days god created blahblah, adam eve" that's how the world started?oh, ok, WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING DINOSAURS? IS THAT A TEST OF FAITH?you die, go to gates of heaven, "did you beleive in dinosaurs?" "yes" "FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!HAHA, GOD WAS FUCKING WITH YOU!! STRAIGHT TO HELL FOREVER!!!!!"""

  • @TheDenswang there will be no battlefield when the world ends.we won't live to see the apocolypse."everything comes from something"...where did god come from? science proves existance.the only higher powers are not intelligent, no more than water, or fire. they do what they do. MAGNETISM, GRAVITY, LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE. simple. fuck off.

  • I'm Christian you can't do nothing against me and my belives...anywhay,  I listen very much Iron Maidne (I know all song),Iced Earth, and other metal/rock band..songs are songs, religion is religions..duuuude

    ......and UNICORNS EXIST !!!!

  • Man this song really moves me, I saw these guys in High School in the mid eighties, and now 25 years later they are just as good if not better, how many bands can say that?.....Good on ya Iron Maiden, Bruce still has the Best Pipes in Metal, what a talent.

  • come on jus listen to the song there is no need to be arguing about if there is a god or not just believe what you want to believe

  • @daviddoncelladehierr that's not the way it is, why is everyone always thinking like that? it depends if you are good or evil it doesn't matter if you believe in him or not.

    It's suppose that God represents all the good things not literally a man who desires humans to love and adore him. He punish the ones who make others suffer and don't care or repent about it.

  • @daviddoncelladehierr Man was given freewill, therefor God cannot interfere with whatever humans decide to do.

  • @KarimBoctorAwad Logically there can't be a free will but only a reaction to causal conditions. However, if the will is run by god, you are not responsible for what you do but instead god is.

    Also, an all-knowing god would exactly know whether you will sin or not, and therefor you can't be free since god already knew your ending. Also this shows the pointlessness of an all mighty god creating a race just to have them crawl back to him.

  • @blaxxus One reason that made me a believer is the sun. Do you really believe that a giant ball of fire that goes past eleven thousand degrees just popped out of nowhere? And yet, there are things bigger than it. That don't crash into each other or us. Gravity, the extreme technicalities of the human body, the wind, you believe they all just popped out of nowhere?

  • @Rangerhalt1 No, but if you've been to school, you should know how they work aswell as how they are made. Even wikipedia might be able to answer those questions.

  • @Rangerhalt1 Do you really believe that a supernatural being like your god popped out of nowhere? If not, where does it come from? Why do people believe in ten thousands of gods when every single one of them claims to be the only one?

    There are scientific explanations for the phenomenons you mentioned, it's sad if you just pass them by putting in a god.

  • @Rangerhalt1 I believe there is an answer for all that. The sun, the gravity, the human body. But I do not believe the answer is so stupidy, simplistic, naive and lazy like: "It was a supernatural being called God."

    If we don't know how it doesn't mean they don't have an explanation. We're just ignorant for a while.

    But this music is not about God, It's about religion and its consequences. Very different standpoints,

  • @danielcgbr This song is not about religion and it's consequences. Nicko made this song. And he is indeed a Christian.

  • amazing song musically and lyrically. It's not really about god not existing though i dont believe. the speaker isn't sure about its existence. I personally believe that giving your attention to some god is pretty stupid but if it makes others comfortable then im good as long as they dont preach to me. 

  • Is this a Christian song? well any ways this is good music.

  • "EPICNESS..GREATEST = IRON MAIDEN"

  • either way cristian or not this is an awesome song.

    UP THE IRONS!!!!!!

  • christians say tha god has the automate power.and tha he is completly good.now why is there evil then?if it is with the god wiils then he is not completly good but if it exists without his will he does not have the automate power.

  • @toronith we believe its all part of his plan to clense heaven and earth. as read in revalations in the bible. satan is lucifer an angel banished by god becaude of his disloyalty and rebelion. when he was cast down all evil began in the world starting with adam and eve. as we read revalations only because of this the tribulation starts (7 years of torment in world as antichrist rules). which in the end God finally does away with satan easily and creates new heaven and earth.

  • @toronith There cannot be good without evil.

  • @wwerulestna There is no good, only better (*aside from the one Good God*)

  • Good song. Too bad Jesus got fucked. But I dun believe, so doesn't matter

    Christians are so confused. They're monotheistic, yet they believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

    Good quality man. For YouTube, that is. xD

  • @NationaLouses Christians believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one entity. God is god. Jesus is the avatar of God. The Holy Spirit is just a cool word for the voice of god. It's way more simple than they tell u in religion class.

  • @metallica04100 That's the first time I've ever heard it explained in any way that even remotely makes sense.

  • @metallica04100 I like your name. I'd bring up another christian joke, but you'd probably get angry =P

  • One of the most amazing and epic songs ever!

  • Please tell me now what life is: Hard to say.

    Please tell me now what love is: A chemical reaction between two beings.

    Well tell me now what war is: A dispute between two countries solved by violence.

    Again tell me what life is: I already said i have no clear answer:)

  • Fucking Christ, stop arguing about religion in youtube.

    ib4 hypocrite

  • @Quztuk why not? arguing about religion and/or philosophy opens up your mind to other arguments and helps u mature as a being. if u don't want other people to talk about meaningful things, keep your mouth closed and don't read the comments.

  • iron maiden has the best guitar playing. best bass. best drums. best vocals. its all in perfect synce like a swiss watch! UP THE IRONS FROM WHO CARES!

  • I am intregued by this debate about God. In my opinion, God is hope, freewill, regret, pain and the list goes. All that Man feels is the consequence of an action. Science exists because of freewill. With freewill, Man was 'free' to question, which lead to science. You might think, "sinse there are rules to follow, there is no freewill" when actually, Man was 'free' to make those rules in the first place.

    P.S. I'm amazed, this is probably the first debate that has no swearing on youtube!

  • WHERE ARE THE LYRICS??????

  • @Hippofan554 Theyre in the description.

  • @Hippofan554 roflmao

    

  • get over stemsell u fucking pussys big fucking deal its a unborn baby

  • the only underlying theme to maidens music is knowledge........read....pay attention ...learn....and make informed decisions of your own choosing....the world is being taken over by ignorance and indifference.....and they are doin their part to stem the tide........mainstream doesnt like all the lemmings in this world not listening to them.......hence they have never liked or understood maiden....those of us in the know either laugh at, or pity the fools

  • @WrathchildNH well said man...well said

  • you can't dislike this song wtf!?

    UP THE IRONS!

  • I'm an Atheist, but religion itself doesn't bother me. It's all the zealots in the world that get on my nerves.

  • and you'll wait some until religions gives some answers

  • This is a good song if your not sure if god exists or not. Basiclly he dedicates it to Him. The lyrics made a point.

  • i dont belive in god myself but i have no problem with any religion. what i do have a problem with however is the amount of money we spend on religion no visable results and no help is given to anyone. that money could be used to help people who need it like the people in hati and starving africans just my opionion though.

  • True, alot of money is waited in religion that could go to others. But hey, it's how man believes their souls can be saved, and it is in the nature of man to save thyself before thy neighbor.

    I believe in God myself, Just don't entirely trust him...

  • @Chillbren to be fair, people could easily put money into haiti and starving africans and still into religion(if they want to) if they ate out less, didn't buy so many material goods-not that im a preachy one of those types who says to give everything up- i have plenty of junk.. lol

  • UP THE IRONS

  • Im sending these lyrics to everyone I know. I know more than ever that religion has alot to answer for and that im still waiting for a response.

  • shame on all of you claiming there's no God !!

    i know there is a god, i've got two of them. one is odin, he has only one eye, and when i die, i'll join him in a battle against evil goblins. the other one i call mr. jinglebell and he reads me good night stories. they really exist, you can't prove that they don't... and unicorns also exist!

  • @clansmaninlove Sorry, but it's Thor for me... :-)

  • @RobertMfromLI haha norse mythology is badass

  • Don't forget the underwear gnomes!

    Sneaky little fuckers..

  • Its funny but the more comments are posted the more it becomes hilarious. Questioning religion or anything else is really sad... Up the Irons for my peanutbuttersandwich! .~*SweeeeeeeeT*~.

  • This song is Pure Genius !! Up the Irons !!

  • one main thing is to remember how god judges to go to war you find it in ot pharoh called god a god of war

  • The answer always comes down to free will. God gave men free will, and some are evil and some are good. Most of us are both, but he would never interfere with the choices we would make, whether good or evil, because he is essentially goodd and believes in freedom. But he also knows that all choices have consequences, and those who choose evil, war, hate, and destruction will reap what they sow, but not until the end of the game. This is life. This is choice. This is God.

  • If "God" gave us free will, than why is Science and such things sins? Isn't Stamcell research free will? and btw. There's nothing either good or bad, since it depends on wich side your'e on. This is life. THis is choice. This is NOT God.

  • You of course have freewill to disbelieve in God, and I'm not gonna argue with you or belittle you for it.

  • Aye, i don't know if free will is something that "God" created or if it's something that we've developed by time... All i know is that you, as well as many else, belives in "God", while others, like myself, does not.

  • God gave man freewill, so it's essentially neither created by him or obtained by us but something 'granted' to us by him.

    I believe it was because he wanted to see if we would choice him or not, considering Angles at first had no choice.

    This probly came to be due to him questioning himself just as all of us do at somepoint. I wonder what he has come to decide about himself, dont you?

  • @TorTheFlame What is the relevance of you and all your other atheists not believing in God? There are people that believe in a God and some who don't. Who cares? 

  • just becouse some replys with something with god in it dont mean their trying to push him on you

  • Well, usually it does. There are a lot of religious nutters out there. But not always. Sometimes someone is just talking about God, and that's all.

  • @kevnar Im glad you gave us all permission...

  • @kevnar i just have a question. this is not intended for me to be trolling ive just always been curious. if non-believers are disliked/hated by the church and go to hell... even tho jesus preaches to love your enemy, then shouldnt we be given an equal, if not better chance into heaven? it has always just struck me as rather contradictory with the faith, among other things.

  • @safghaddy Contrary to many Christian teachings, people aren't sent to hell for not being "Christian". They're sent to hell for their sins. There's an important difference there that escapes a lot of folks. Christians are sinners as well, and if they do not practice the love and grace that Jesus preached, they'll be sent below as well. Heaven is for those with child-like hearts, humble, quick to love and forgive, and who realize they need help. That's the best answer I've got. Hope it helps.

  • freewill is freewill science is not a sin its how you use it servivial stemcell is taken from the dead children thats the sin in that

  • @TorTheFlame Iron Maiden... they ARE Gods!!!!!

    This is life, this is choice, this is opinion...

  • @TorTheFlame Science exists because of free will. Because man was FREE to question and FREE to search the truth, they developed science to answer questions.

  • @TorTheFlame stem cell research is only looked at as a sin by the catholic church, i think... u can believe in god and not catholicism. anyways, the reason the church views stem cell research as unethical is because u need to use an aborted baby or something like that and abortion is unethical according to the church because u are denying life to a newborn.

  • @TorTheFlame Stem cell research is only considered a sin by the churches. u can believe in god and free will and not believe in the churches. anyways, the reason churches view it as unethical is because u must get the stem cell from aborted children, which is viewed by the church as unethical because to have an abortion u are denying life to a child.

  • @TorTheFlame Not everything Christians believe is from God. If you start with that idea, you'll have a lot better luck understanding who/what God is truly all about. Most religious debates aren't about searching for truth though. They're more about proving the other guy wrong at any cost. Hypocritical Christians are an easy target for someone looking for an excuse to reject God. But someone honestly searching for truth can plainly see that a loving God isn't about just sending people to hell.

  • @TorTheFlame Now now, let's not bash Nicko McBrain's Christian beliefs.

  • @TorTheFlame Another point: If god is almighty, he therefor knows everything that would/will ever happen to his creatures, which means that you can't have a free will since he always knew what you were going to do.

    Any kind of logic beats a religion. However, the point is to tolerate religion AS LONG as it stays pacific and doesn't get a criminal organisation (which most religions are).

  • @blaxxus Then you can't blame people for being non-religious... Nor for doing Jihad!

  • @TorTheFlame Before I start speaking, I will just state that I am not religious. In the bible however (which, despite being unreligious, I have read), God gave us free will, but this includes the power to sin. Sure, God gave us this, but that also includes the ability to go against his decrees.

    An analogy would be writing a test in school. A major rule is "No cheating" - does that mean you can't cheat? No, it just means there would be dire consequences and that you wouldn't get away with it.

  • @TorTheFlame Thanks for uploading the song, btw. It's one of my favourites. :D

  • @Attacksloth32 Oh, no probs! :D~

  • @Attacksloth32 Oh, no probs! :D~

  • @TorTheFlame Science and other things are not sins, and God did give us freewill, we're allowed to do whatever we want to do. God just said that if we want to go to Heaven, we have to believe that he died for us, and that he is real. That is all. All the other stuff you hear about God telling us not to do this or not to do that, are really just guidelines He gave us to live a healthier lifestyle. Everything you heard about us burning in Hell for doing that, probably came from a religious fanatic

  • @kevnar Yes, but this song is about people committing atrocities in the name of god - whichever god - and whatever their reason behind it is.

    In Christianity, life=love... love=life... "well tell me now what war is?"

    The song isnt about whether god is real or not, or what choices we have. It's about all the evil things that humankind has done "For the Greater Good of God"

  • @kevnar as for this part: "but he would never interfere with the choices we would make"

    I disagree with your assessment, and so does the Bible. Plagues, flooding the world, fires, brimstone, destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah, locusts and on & on. He's interfered numerous times (and committed mass murder) if the Bible is to be believed.

    I dont begrudge you your choice of religions. Not in the least... but you should at least truly know your religion before you preach it to others.

  • @RobertMfromLI my faith is more in an afterlife and a god of love, not a machine created by the church to increase the church's power.

  • @metallica04100 Well said

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  • this song explanes my exact internal debate, its amazeing

  • thanks for lyrics :]

    i couldn't figure out what he was saying on "please tell me now what life is please tell me now what love well tell me now what war is again tell me what life is"

    xDDD

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  • this would be an excellent song to dedicate to the punkass taliban and all those other holy murderers

  • Well, it's written by Steve Harris and he said he's not anti-religious. He's just implying that we never know and that's because there's too damn many different religions. Although you bring a good point.