I can't believe My favorite companion has passed away when I first saw her with Pertwee I thought she was my age I can't believe she was in her 60's when she passed away
She knew she had cancer before filming Series 5 but decided to carry on. It is said, she was unsure of her future so filmed alternative scenes... I hope they show the ones she has filmed and then for the final episode: it should be Sarah Jane's funeral... Maybe Luke, Clyde, Rani, Maria, Alan, Chrissie, Jo, Jo's Grandson, Doctor (4) and Doctor (10/11) should all be there??? Thoughts?? RIP Lis- you were so strong..,
She hid her illness from her fans very well. We in the U.S. never knew she was sick. The world is going to seem emptier without her smile to brighten our days.
I never bought the re-write of her character as being in love with the Doctor and as being 'dumped'. Sarah clearly left when she wanted to, and was quite capable of leaving a message with UNIT or whatever asking the Doctor to contact her if she wanted. Retrofitting her as a former love interest just cheapens her original character as a very good friend.
What a beautiful soul - so sadly missed - Elizabeth Sladen is fondly remembered by all who's heart she touched with her spirited and intelligent performances.
You can't put adverts on what's supposed to be a tribute! This is an outrage. I'm supposed to be paying tribute to a wonderful woman, instead I get Don't Stop Me Now playing.. don't get me wrong, it's a good song but it's not appropriate right now!
I can't believe it! It's going to be weird watching Sarah Jane Adventures now. I'm watching the episode with davros and all the companions together, saw a wee part with her on it, and I almost cried! She was such a brilliant actress, didn't look 63 that's for sure. RIP to an amazing Doctor's Companion. ♥
I think the problem with that episode is that SJ never actually cared for the Doctor like that did she? She knew him mostly in his Third incarnation and some in the Fourth, but I didn't think they wrote their relationship in that way back then.
@RayzokReview In Classic WHO, the Dr and Sarah seem very close to each other; the deep affection appears "family" not sexual. Dr#3 seems father-like to Sarah, being tenderly affectionate and protective of her in Death to the Daleks, Monster of Peladon, & Planet of the Spiders. Dr#4 is alien and clumsily affectionate at best, but angrily asking Harry "Where is Sarah?" in Revenge of the Cybermen shows how deeply attached to her he really is. Dr#4 seems "big-brother-like" to Sarah.
@63DW89A That ambiguity was always a huge question mark in the series. Doctor would introduce Sarah as his "best friend", a title he only used for one other...K-9, and that was after his many times calling the robot his"second-best friend", indicating Sarah was still on his mind. Was it romantic? Hmm...4th Doctor was nuts! Child-like! perhaps he did love her but was hesitant to commit.
(1) @diddymuck Good points! The ambiguity of the Dr/Sarah relationship as maintained in classic WHO shows just how good the writing was in the Classic WHO-SJS era. My view is that Sarah, who had lost both her parents at an early age, quickly grew close to and adopted Dr#3 as a father; the family relationship continued upon regeneration into Dr#4, but became more "Big-brother-kid sister". Lis was genuinely very fond of Pertwee, saying she cried for weeks after his death in 1996.
(2) @diddymuck. On the available DVD's in Seasons 12,13 &14, Tom Baker's comments toward Lis Sladen show just how much he genuinely adores her. That is very unusual as Tom rarely says anything serious about others he has worked with, Lis standing out as the one exception.
I feel the amazing Lis Sladen is the reason for the extraordinary success of "Sarah". Lis made Sarah real and easy to connect with, plus she forged the affectionate close ties with Pertwee/Baker that show onscreen.
A good Doctor yes. Not the best. Baker was good, as was Pertwee. Matt Smith actually brings A LOT of the old doctor into the series, he acts more like the old Doctors then David did. He actually reminds me of the first Doctor at times.
@JGruesomeAnimation That's because when he studied up on the Doctor he was really into Patrick Troughton. There's a video of Karen Gilliam interviewing him about that. He said he modeled his Doctor after Troughton's.
The discussion of his relationship with companions is really making me curious as to who River Song is. She knows the Doctor inside and out, including his real name. I was leaning towards the possibility that she was a regeneration of his, but there's more than that. And if the Doctor keeps this much of a distance from his companions, its going to be real interesting why that isn't the case with River.
And as she said, when her identity is revealed, that's when everything changes!
@NoPawn I always figured that River Song was a reincarnation of The Doctor's daughter's... they haven't used that character since she flew off... not even as much as a mention.
@tedescucci And I think they want to use that character someday. River Song might be her, but I don't think so. I have a feeling someone is going to come up from the classic series, which will be before my time, but who knows? I can't wait to find it all out!
I was delighted they brought back Sarah Jane Smith. Liz Sladen played her very well back then, and her recent appearances and own series have been well done and enjoyable.
the best bit in the episode is when the two women are having the one upthing then begin slagging him off and he doesn't understand why they're laughing at him.
Luckily Sarah Jane's character later became quite interesting on her own show, but in this episode she was retconned as a jealous old bitch by Toby "Sex in the City" Whithouse and Russell T. Davies. Were they seriously trying to imply that Sarah Jane shagged Tom Baker's Doctor behind the TARDIS console every chance they got? What a load of crap! I still can't figure out why people think RTD is so great. He is an egotistical & overrated jerk, and I'm glad he's not running Doctor Who anymore.
@icemachine79 I don't think that's what they were getting at - it IS possible for two people to care about each other without having sex... I see Sarah Jane and 4 being more like brother and sister, and if you didn't hear from your brother for years, assumed he was dead and then he turned up fine and dandy, just didn't bother to tell you or anything, I think you would be pretty upset. Remember the "Mrs and the ex" stuff in the episode came from Mickey, not the Doctor.
It would be great to see Katy Manning, Mary Tamm and Lalla Ward onscreen in DW again. I doubt any of them would get their own spin-off series though.
Lis Sladen's star quality was immediately evident in DW from the moment she arrived.
Just watch her first two DW serials, "Time Warrior" and "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" for that fact to jump off the screen. The only companion in Classic DW capable of carrying much of a story on her own, independent of the Dr.
I meant something like a new regeneration of Romana, but it would be cool to see Mary Tamm or Lalla Ward again. Imagine the Doctor's look of panic if The Three Romanas ever came to be...
@ApocalypseNext Only if they do something new with her character, and not have her get into some kind of stupid cat fight with Sarah Jane over the Doctor. But if RTD is writing the episode I wouldn't be at all surprised if that is exactly what happens. Sarah Jane getting all hot and bothered over Tom Baker's Doctor is bad enough, but imagining Jo Grant getting off with Jon Pertwee is beyond disgusting. But like I said before, I wouldn't put it past Mr. Concrete Fellatio's warped imagination.
@icemachine79 I doubt Jo Grant would get in a catfight over the Doctor, since as you recall she left the Doctor to get married. As for her and 3, I doubt they actually "got off" but the Doctor definitely cared for her very much - watch The green Death sometime and tell me that's not one dumped-looking Time Lord. Jo Grant left an impressive number of disappointed men in her wake, last but not least of which was the Doctor.
@ApocalypseNext The final scene of The Green Death was probably Pertwee's finest moment, and Jo's leaving obviously affected him deeply. What I'm worried about is RTD retconning it like he did Sarah Jane's relationship to the Doctor and reducing it to a mediocre soap opera love triangle because Jo described Clifford Jones as a younger version of the Doctor.. Toby Whithouse may have been the writer of School Reunion, but it was RTD who made him put in those crass jealousy scenes with Rose.
Is Sladen just lucky that she is in some of DW's best shows? Or is it Sladen's presence in a show that makes it one of DW's best? Best guess is she brings something special to DW.
Looking back over Classic DW, her era really stands out. I now think Elisabeth's talent, professionalism and rapport provided one of the solid foundations for DW hitting its peak.
It's commonly said she was fortunate to be at the start of the Hinchcliffe era. Perhaps the Hinchcliffe era was fortunate she was there for them, as that era may not have succeeded so spectacularly without her.
Phillip Hinchcliffe was DW producer in Seasons 12,13,&14. Robert Holmes was script editor. Together they created the "Gothic Horror" era of DW, in Tom Baker's first seasons as the Dr. Many think that DW's finest shows came from this era. I personally include Season 11 in that era, the final season of the Letts/Dicks/Pertwee era, and the first season for Sarah Jane.
Seasons 12,13 &14 are often called the Hinchcliffe/Holmes DW era.
Holmes also wrote some of DW's all-time greatest shows.
Frankly I'd love to see the writers have Rose meet Romana, a newly regenerated Romana -- to truly put things in perspective. But they would have to change the kind of Doctor that David created as he's a more sexual Doctor, even more so that the romantic, kissing Grace at every chance Eight.
SJ's ok and a legend in her own right, but Romana's the best for me. For me, in my opinion: 1. Romana 2. Leela 3. Ace 4. Donna 5. Sarah Jane Smith 6. Jamie! 7. Jo Grant 8. Captain Jack 9. Charley Pollard 10. Martha Jones 2nd-bottom. Adric bottom. Tegan!
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I suggest that bbc takes on the old crew I mean the old cameramen, producers and other "helpers" since i relly think the differnce is there and these guys dont cut(badly edjucated in schools where cool" is main objective- they dont have the mental capasity at all to produse something good)
Of course Rose was clingy and whiny, she was like 19 or 20 years old in the show. she has just turned into an adult and is scared. it is like a person going to college and being overwhelmed but on a larger level.
Also, Sarah was getting a bit disconnected from her life on earth, plus what he says to Rose in School Reunion, about outliving them, and not wanting to see them age and die. There was a bond with Sarah that he rarely had with other companions.
It wasn't romantic for either of them, so I don't like them pinning the unrequited love angle on Sarah Jane. But they might have hugged. I know he and Ace hugged. Ace was 19 and thought too young for the Doctor.
Yup, and the character of the Doctor has changed with each new face. Ace was not, if I recall, not overjoyed when the Brig referred to her as the Doctor's "new assistant', but her relationship was more father to daughter.
And no, Sarah Jane would not have behaved in that way.
I didn't mind Rose with Nine, but with Ten both the role of the companion and the image Doctor became more "Mary Sue" fan fiction type characters.
Actually, when you think about it, that's a bit cowardly of him and ageist of the writers. Humans age. After all the Doctor lost, why would something natural like age matter? Why wouldn't he love seeing Rose grow and mature? He wants her 19 forever? Midlife Crisis anyone? Doctor One was an old man, had older companions. If he loved Rose, and her humanity then like Jack with Estelle, why wouldn't he cherish the Journey? Rose didn't care as long as she was with him.
It's still debatable whether the new adventures books/audio can be considered canon to the tv serials. The time war mentioned by doctor #9 isn't necessarily referring to the time war featured in the NA books.
Although its hard to judge a viewing figure of over 8million on a Saturday night today is comparitive to a massive, massive audience 20 or 30 years ago.
To pull in 8million today is some going. I'd say new Dr Who probably outstrips any viewing figures of the classic series across broad demographics. Its no big secret SJS + DR4 were successful becasue of good writing but broad appeal, as RT + DR10 mirrors.
The broad audience appeal of Dr#4/SJS was a direct result of their complementary characters teamed with great writing and production.
The new Series has pulled ratings of 10+ million 4 times to date, indicating that it can pull Classic Who-level audiences with quality scripts and production.
Ratings-wise, the new Series is around the level of classic Seasons 9 and 10, having solid ratings with steady improvement.
Actually atleast half of his old companions simply walked away. Romana, Leela, Jo Grant and Liz Shaw just left the doctor and went on with their own lives like Matha.
Sarah Jane was one of a few he was forced to leave behind for one reason or another.
An amazingly touching insight into the character of the Doctor. Very well done, BBC Writers, and to the actors who bring the characters to life. This is why British TV is the best in the world... nay, the Universe!
Never. Don't get me wrong Ace surpassed Smith in every way, shape and form but due to the way the show was treated in the eighties the fans who grow up watching it at that time are in the minority, where as those for whom Sarah Jane was their first crush are in a VAAAASSSSSTTTT majority. This I firmly believe is the reason Sarah Jane Smith is regarded as the number one companion.
Though Sladen has said that Journey's End will most likely be her last return to Who so once SJA has run its course in a few years we might get a bit more balance the next time the production team feel nostalgic (so maybe I'm wrong about Ace after all) or maybe they'll just move on to Leela.
Sarah Jane is the number 1 companion. A show like Who thrives on its fanbase. In classic Who she was with 2 Doctors, did the most episodes, did a lot of the specials & was the first real bridge between falling/screaming & independent companions. However, my favorites are Leela & Romana I. But, the classic Who companion who I think should show up is Nyssa. Underutilized, an alien, stayed on another planet to help cure lepers & the Doctor has never been back. Great open-ended storyline.
DrWho pulled in the largest average seasonal audiences in its history when Sarah Jane Smith was companion to Tom Baker's Dr.
The smallest seasonal audiences in DrWho history, were when Ace was companion to Sylvester McCoy's Dr.
Sarah Jane is very highly regarded due to her realistic and down-to-earth portrayal by Lis Sladen. It is easy for the audience to ID with such a realistic character.
It is harder for the audience to ID with "cartoonish" companions like Ace or Leela.
I could never stand her personally. Too much complaining and screaming and whimpering. Plus Sladen just ain't no great shakes as a thesp (but how many companions were). Great epsiode but Sarah, not my cup of tea.
However, Baker/Sladen pulled in the largest audiences in WHO history, making them the most popular TARDIS team ever, so your opinion of Sarah Jane is in the minority.
Perhaps you have Sarah confused with Rose? Rose DOES do a lot of whimpering, complaining, whining and clinging.
I've seen all the "Sarah" stories, and the funny scene in ARK in SPACE was the only time she ever whimpered.
Mickey screamed louder and longer in SCHOOL REUNION than Sarah EVER did!
She still looks amazing after all those years.
Scorp308 6 days ago
Can't believe she's gone.. So tragic.
RisingDampChamp 4 months ago
@simsxD Yes, I'm afraid so :(
JeanieBM 5 months ago
HIS. FRICKIN. ACCENT! <3
cmxiang 5 months ago 2
@cmxiang Yup
dieskie2479 5 months ago
I can't believe My favorite companion has passed away when I first saw her with Pertwee I thought she was my age I can't believe she was in her 60's when she passed away
Jamescs007 5 months ago
Is that rose in the background!? 1:56 ?
Saiko47 6 months ago 3
@Saiko47 this was an episode from when she was one of the doctors companions
TheBraindawg028 4 months ago
I love Sarah Jane RIP Elizabeth Sladen x
limeyjoe1957 6 months ago
I saw someone who looked just like Lis (and spoke exactly like her) in a cafe today. Needless to say it took all I had to keep from crying.
crazeebirdeegirlee 7 months ago 5
I watched this, looking back at the memories with her as companion, and as Sarah in the SJA series
sagitario114 7 months ago 2
aw poor doctor! 4:27
CREN13Queen 8 months ago 3
Ever since I saw that 10 vs. 11 meme, I LOL every time I hear the Doctor say "That's the curse of the time lords."
chocolateislove 8 months ago 2
I love Davids accent :D
CagayakeGirl 8 months ago 2
RIP
myboombox2 8 months ago
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I hated rose she is such a bitch
ralphy329 8 months ago
RIP
SpearMinti 8 months ago
the lovely talanted eilsabeth sladen is my hero miss u lis sladen xx
foxsy7 8 months ago 2
Tennant is terrible. Gurning all the time.
paulmorris7777 8 months ago
RIP LIZ X LOZA
lozarok 8 months ago
Teared up a little there...
KillingPatience 8 months ago
LOL at Mickey! "oooh the Mrs and the ex, welcome to every man's worst nightmare" XD
MrComedy01 9 months ago
liz' death was like losing part of our life in my family! we will miss her so dearly and i hope she is having fun in heaven. RIP liz.
ghoulia21 9 months ago
Rest in Peace Liz. We will miss you...
TheGallianthe 9 months ago
My Sarah Jane! My childhood crush! I am so glad that I got to meet you so many times before it was too late!
borgduck 9 months ago 2
@borgduck yes I met liz once and I loved the sarah jane Adventures.Sad now she has gone.
historicbloke 9 months ago
goodbye my Sarah Jane
davidrollercoaster 9 months ago
I JUST NOW read that Liz Sladen had passed away. I couldn't believe it. I thought it had to be a hoax.
delavalmilker 9 months ago
R.I.P. Elisabeth Sladen
nuwavevidspud 9 months ago 2
rip lis ill never forget you rip
jedwardmaniaxx 9 months ago
im sad sarah jane died of cancer
jedwardmaniaxx 9 months ago
She knew she had cancer before filming Series 5 but decided to carry on. It is said, she was unsure of her future so filmed alternative scenes... I hope they show the ones she has filmed and then for the final episode: it should be Sarah Jane's funeral... Maybe Luke, Clyde, Rani, Maria, Alan, Chrissie, Jo, Jo's Grandson, Doctor (4) and Doctor (10/11) should all be there??? Thoughts?? RIP Lis- you were so strong..,
doctortwist1906 9 months ago
Well, it's a tribute now :( RIP.
nighthawk006phoenix 9 months ago
The Doctor has lost his greatest ever companion. Rest in peace forever Lis. Always in our hearts.
SGTV726 9 months ago 19
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She hid her illness from her fans very well. We in the U.S. never knew she was sick. The world is going to seem emptier without her smile to brighten our days.
Trekfreek 9 months ago
what horrible news. 35 years ago I sat behind a cushion watching her and the doctor....gutted. Simly the best assistant (and actress) the Dr has had.
JohnnyLovepants 9 months ago 3
all doctor who fans are terribly upset by this. the doctor has lost a true friend.
dave1884 9 months ago 4
Rest in Peace Elisabeth, you'll never ever be forgotten by us
Kerriangel 9 months ago 4
R.I.P. Elisabeth Sladen.
anothercanofworms 9 months ago 5
I never bought the re-write of her character as being in love with the Doctor and as being 'dumped'. Sarah clearly left when she wanted to, and was quite capable of leaving a message with UNIT or whatever asking the Doctor to contact her if she wanted. Retrofitting her as a former love interest just cheapens her original character as a very good friend.
TheBcaton 9 months ago
RIP protecting us form the darleks from afar!
kapilv 9 months ago 3
RIP Elizabeth Sladen, gorgeous, gifted and talented.xxx
JeanieBM 9 months ago 103
@JeanieBM she's dead?!
simsxD 5 months ago
@simsxD She died in the battle against cancer :(.
I googled it, 'Cause she's still soo famous. She was a great companion to the doctor :)
dieskie2479 5 months ago
RIP Liz Sladen, a great actress!
cricketbat08 9 months ago 2
The death of Elisabeth Sladen.....brought to you by Lloyds TSB. Disgusting
ppauly 9 months ago
RIP x
WeWantWeWant 9 months ago
RIP Lis
999idad 9 months ago
Rest in Peace Liz. :(
CoyotesOwn 9 months ago
RIP Elisabeth. You will be missed. :( </3
RoseWillow13 9 months ago
RIP Elisabeth, Another piece of my childhood gone :(:::::::
gjp1100 9 months ago
R.I.P.///
KaxxxE 9 months ago
Rest In Peace Elisabeth Sladen <3
goldilocksinsane 9 months ago
What a beautiful soul - so sadly missed - Elizabeth Sladen is fondly remembered by all who's heart she touched with her spirited and intelligent performances.
CraigWinstanley1 9 months ago
You can't put adverts on what's supposed to be a tribute! This is an outrage. I'm supposed to be paying tribute to a wonderful woman, instead I get Don't Stop Me Now playing.. don't get me wrong, it's a good song but it's not appropriate right now!
Scarperguy 9 months ago
@Scarperguy It's not a tribute, at least not one intended for recent circumstances.
Occono 9 months ago
@Occono If it's part of BBC's Sarah-Jane tribute playlist, which is how I got to this video, then yes it is a tribute
Scarperguy 9 months ago
@Scarperguy Alright. I'm not sure if they can take off adverts temporarily though.
Occono 9 months ago
RIP Liz, you where a treasure, thanks for being Sarah Jane, you will be missed.
Desperadorrj 9 months ago
RIP...You got to take part in a great story.
NJburbsSeeker 9 months ago
Miss Sladen...you will regenerate...for real...in a fantastic new world! R.I.P.
musicalglenn 9 months ago
I'm so sad. :( I'm gonna miss her. I imagine she would have been amazing to know in real life.
omgbradley 9 months ago
be missed terribly
aighte 9 months ago
It's hard to believe she's gone, Sarah Jane was hands down one of the best companions... RIP Lis you'll ne missed terribly.
aighte 9 months ago 2
RIP Elizabeth Sladen . . . I loved Sarah Jane Smith.
NachoTX 9 months ago 2
Sad, God rest your soul Elizabeth
scidriver 9 months ago
She will be missed. RIP Elizabeth Sladen.
jadedrose179 9 months ago
RIP Elizabeth Sladen / Sarah Jane Smith. Such a sad day for Doctor Who :( she will be souly missed T^T
tennis4life20082000 9 months ago
63. young.
cymrutube3 9 months ago
RIP SARA JANE SMITH, MY FAVORITE COMPANION.
gus4u2c 9 months ago 5
I can't believe it! It's going to be weird watching Sarah Jane Adventures now. I'm watching the episode with davros and all the companions together, saw a wee part with her on it, and I almost cried! She was such a brilliant actress, didn't look 63 that's for sure. RIP to an amazing Doctor's Companion. ♥
curlybobofelia 9 months ago 2
i was just reading on the BBC website that she died this morning. RIP Elisabeth Sladen
Torchwood4EverSC 9 months ago
R.I.P Elisabeth
Hoogliette 9 months ago
RIP Elisabeth Sladen. You will be missed.
spursmum 9 months ago 2
@spursmum
Indeed, very sorely missed.
jdmitchell2 9 months ago
lol i need a sonic scrwdriver
616bloodrose 9 months ago
0:50 excuse me i need the bathroom 15 secs later (time passes) ashhh much better
minecraftbench 10 months ago
There is no way she is 61. She can't be! she looks like a 35 year old!!
allaurae 1 year ago 7
@allaurae agreed she still looks hot best companion ever. Damn lucky Doctor
FFahall 10 months ago 3
I think the problem with that episode is that SJ never actually cared for the Doctor like that did she? She knew him mostly in his Third incarnation and some in the Fourth, but I didn't think they wrote their relationship in that way back then.
RTD is just a little relationship obsessed.
RayzokReview 1 year ago 6
@RayzokReview In Classic WHO, the Dr and Sarah seem very close to each other; the deep affection appears "family" not sexual. Dr#3 seems father-like to Sarah, being tenderly affectionate and protective of her in Death to the Daleks, Monster of Peladon, & Planet of the Spiders. Dr#4 is alien and clumsily affectionate at best, but angrily asking Harry "Where is Sarah?" in Revenge of the Cybermen shows how deeply attached to her he really is. Dr#4 seems "big-brother-like" to Sarah.
63DW89A 1 year ago
@63DW89A That ambiguity was always a huge question mark in the series. Doctor would introduce Sarah as his "best friend", a title he only used for one other...K-9, and that was after his many times calling the robot his"second-best friend", indicating Sarah was still on his mind. Was it romantic? Hmm...4th Doctor was nuts! Child-like! perhaps he did love her but was hesitant to commit.
diddymuck 9 months ago
(1) @diddymuck Good points! The ambiguity of the Dr/Sarah relationship as maintained in classic WHO shows just how good the writing was in the Classic WHO-SJS era. My view is that Sarah, who had lost both her parents at an early age, quickly grew close to and adopted Dr#3 as a father; the family relationship continued upon regeneration into Dr#4, but became more "Big-brother-kid sister". Lis was genuinely very fond of Pertwee, saying she cried for weeks after his death in 1996.
63DW89A 9 months ago
(2) @diddymuck. On the available DVD's in Seasons 12,13 &14, Tom Baker's comments toward Lis Sladen show just how much he genuinely adores her. That is very unusual as Tom rarely says anything serious about others he has worked with, Lis standing out as the one exception.
I feel the amazing Lis Sladen is the reason for the extraordinary success of "Sarah". Lis made Sarah real and easy to connect with, plus she forged the affectionate close ties with Pertwee/Baker that show onscreen.
63DW89A 9 months ago
please David Moffett dont bring back Tegan that aussie accent grrrrrr by the way i'am an aussie.
atlantisrising100 1 year ago
that episode was magnificent. nuff said.
smileyofhumpalot 1 year ago
david was best doctor i say...
igneous061 1 year ago
@igneous061
A good Doctor yes. Not the best. Baker was good, as was Pertwee. Matt Smith actually brings A LOT of the old doctor into the series, he acts more like the old Doctors then David did. He actually reminds me of the first Doctor at times.
JGruesomeAnimation 1 year ago 30
@JGruesomeAnimation That's because when he studied up on the Doctor he was really into Patrick Troughton. There's a video of Karen Gilliam interviewing him about that. He said he modeled his Doctor after Troughton's.
NoPawn 1 year ago 2
The discussion of his relationship with companions is really making me curious as to who River Song is. She knows the Doctor inside and out, including his real name. I was leaning towards the possibility that she was a regeneration of his, but there's more than that. And if the Doctor keeps this much of a distance from his companions, its going to be real interesting why that isn't the case with River.
And as she said, when her identity is revealed, that's when everything changes!
NoPawn 1 year ago
@NoPawn I always figured that River Song was a reincarnation of The Doctor's daughter's... they haven't used that character since she flew off... not even as much as a mention.
tedescucci 1 year ago
@tedescucci And I think they want to use that character someday. River Song might be her, but I don't think so. I have a feeling someone is going to come up from the classic series, which will be before my time, but who knows? I can't wait to find it all out!
NoPawn 1 year ago
I was delighted they brought back Sarah Jane Smith. Liz Sladen played her very well back then, and her recent appearances and own series have been well done and enjoyable.
And she's lovely as ever!
madmath 1 year ago 7
AWESOME!
jgriffith41 1 year ago
Clyde is the new Mickey in the SJ adventures
chocolatefountain95 1 year ago 2
she must work out if she's 61!!
CampRockfan40 1 year ago
She made the transition from kitten to cougar very well! Always loved how Liz brings Sarah Jane to life.
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she looks about 40 something! but she's got to be older, 'cause 27 years? she's 57 here! holy....doing well anyway.
hoho! mate, the misses and the ex! welcome to every man's worst nightmare.
stad97 1 year ago
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stad97 1 year ago
Elisabeth Sladen is still pretty hot for a 61 year old.
CMDRKillsalot 1 year ago 5
david tennant and tom baker are my favoruite doctors
lmckay023 1 year ago
the best bit in the episode is when the two women are having the one upthing then begin slagging him off and he doesn't understand why they're laughing at him.
Kerriangel 1 year ago 5
David Tennent is THE best Dr Who... Sorry previous fellows.
paulineprojectlove 1 year ago
@paulineprojectlove I agree with u though I don't think we've seen enough of MAtt smith yet
charosism 1 year ago
Put her in some Andy Pandy overalls and she doesn't look like she's aged much at all.
louisvonbeethoven 1 year ago
Luckily Sarah Jane's character later became quite interesting on her own show, but in this episode she was retconned as a jealous old bitch by Toby "Sex in the City" Whithouse and Russell T. Davies. Were they seriously trying to imply that Sarah Jane shagged Tom Baker's Doctor behind the TARDIS console every chance they got? What a load of crap! I still can't figure out why people think RTD is so great. He is an egotistical & overrated jerk, and I'm glad he's not running Doctor Who anymore.
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 I don't think that's what they were getting at - it IS possible for two people to care about each other without having sex... I see Sarah Jane and 4 being more like brother and sister, and if you didn't hear from your brother for years, assumed he was dead and then he turned up fine and dandy, just didn't bother to tell you or anything, I think you would be pretty upset. Remember the "Mrs and the ex" stuff in the episode came from Mickey, not the Doctor.
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SBreeze80 1 year ago
I wonder if Jo Gant returning for an episode would be as successful? I'd like to see Romana return too, but as a proper companion.
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago 2
It would be great to see Katy Manning, Mary Tamm and Lalla Ward onscreen in DW again. I doubt any of them would get their own spin-off series though.
Lis Sladen's star quality was immediately evident in DW from the moment she arrived.
Just watch her first two DW serials, "Time Warrior" and "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" for that fact to jump off the screen. The only companion in Classic DW capable of carrying much of a story on her own, independent of the Dr.
63DW89 1 year ago
I meant something like a new regeneration of Romana, but it would be cool to see Mary Tamm or Lalla Ward again. Imagine the Doctor's look of panic if The Three Romanas ever came to be...
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago
@ApocalypseNext Only if they do something new with her character, and not have her get into some kind of stupid cat fight with Sarah Jane over the Doctor. But if RTD is writing the episode I wouldn't be at all surprised if that is exactly what happens. Sarah Jane getting all hot and bothered over Tom Baker's Doctor is bad enough, but imagining Jo Grant getting off with Jon Pertwee is beyond disgusting. But like I said before, I wouldn't put it past Mr. Concrete Fellatio's warped imagination.
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 I doubt Jo Grant would get in a catfight over the Doctor, since as you recall she left the Doctor to get married. As for her and 3, I doubt they actually "got off" but the Doctor definitely cared for her very much - watch The green Death sometime and tell me that's not one dumped-looking Time Lord. Jo Grant left an impressive number of disappointed men in her wake, last but not least of which was the Doctor.
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago
@ApocalypseNext The final scene of The Green Death was probably Pertwee's finest moment, and Jo's leaving obviously affected him deeply. What I'm worried about is RTD retconning it like he did Sarah Jane's relationship to the Doctor and reducing it to a mediocre soap opera love triangle because Jo described Clifford Jones as a younger version of the Doctor.. Toby Whithouse may have been the writer of School Reunion, but it was RTD who made him put in those crass jealousy scenes with Rose.
icemachine79 1 year ago
Is Sladen just lucky that she is in some of DW's best shows? Or is it Sladen's presence in a show that makes it one of DW's best? Best guess is she brings something special to DW.
63DW89 1 year ago
Elisabeth's presence.
She's a legend.
TheDunHorse 1 year ago
@TheDunHorse: I think you are correct.
Looking back over Classic DW, her era really stands out. I now think Elisabeth's talent, professionalism and rapport provided one of the solid foundations for DW hitting its peak.
It's commonly said she was fortunate to be at the start of the Hinchcliffe era. Perhaps the Hinchcliffe era was fortunate she was there for them, as that era may not have succeeded so spectacularly without her.
63DW89 1 year ago
Sorry, this may seem like a random and totally stupid question, but:
What the hell is the Hinchcliffe era?
I agree that you think that her ability to be epic (in my words) has helped to make DW an awesome show, and that's why she's my favourite actress.
TheDunHorse 1 year ago
Phillip Hinchcliffe was DW producer in Seasons 12,13,&14. Robert Holmes was script editor. Together they created the "Gothic Horror" era of DW, in Tom Baker's first seasons as the Dr. Many think that DW's finest shows came from this era. I personally include Season 11 in that era, the final season of the Letts/Dicks/Pertwee era, and the first season for Sarah Jane.
Seasons 12,13 &14 are often called the Hinchcliffe/Holmes DW era.
Holmes also wrote some of DW's all-time greatest shows.
63DW89 1 year ago
I HATE Rose I dunno y I just cant stand her I dont even like Billi Piper
Lis Sladen all the wya she is my hero and is so glam and beautiful for being 61 :O
Love ya xoxoxox
BeeAnne01 2 years ago 11
Frankly I'd love to see the writers have Rose meet Romana, a newly regenerated Romana -- to truly put things in perspective. But they would have to change the kind of Doctor that David created as he's a more sexual Doctor, even more so that the romantic, kissing Grace at every chance Eight.
Bobsyermomsuncle 2 years ago
i think she says "No, in due time"
DemXL 2 years ago
I think it's "you're a two timer" directed to the Doctor, not Rose.
milan2c 2 years ago
@milan2c no I'm pretty sure its "No, in due time"
DemXL 2 years ago
what does sarah jane say after rose says "im not his assistant!"?
heroes5100 2 years ago
No, get you tiger.
bardar27 2 years ago
PringlesJingles 2 years ago
actually Kamelion or even Mel (scream! scream! scream!) rate lower
009radix 2 years ago
whos adric???
poor rose knowing that her life with the dr isnt gnna last
bubblegurl783 2 years ago
You know Liz is 61 years old. She can shag me anytime!
pig43001 2 years ago 50
Amen.
I guess she'd be a GILF.
kcdl 2 years ago
@pig43001 she doesn't look it at all
esmemorgana 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I suggest that bbc takes on the old crew I mean the old cameramen, producers and other "helpers" since i relly think the differnce is there and these guys dont cut(badly edjucated in schools where cool" is main objective- they dont have the mental capasity at all to produse something good)
Qulopuaa 2 years ago
lol this episode is so funny now due to the fact that Rose ended up with the Doctor on a parallel world! LOL, poor Sarah Jane....!
StephenJSheridan 2 years ago 4
David, can you squeeze a bit longer on the sonicing? LOL!!!
StephenJSheridan 2 years ago
i didn't really like the whole doctor/rose thing, the doctor shouldn't be in love lol
rigs345 2 years ago
Of course Rose was clingy and whiny, she was like 19 or 20 years old in the show. she has just turned into an adult and is scared. it is like a person going to college and being overwhelmed but on a larger level.
dwfan6995 2 years ago 4
How about Adric, return
refbiz 2 years ago
Adric is dead
riguy39 2 years ago
Didn't Adric die?
weldonwin 2 years ago
yup he died
jadaiyuki12 2 years ago
SERIOUSLY dead as I recall, rammed into pre-historic Earth aboard a starship full of nukes I think
weldonwin 2 years ago
Yup. The impact of his ship is what killed the dinosaurs!
Parrotguy1999 2 years ago
they filmed this ep in my high school, i was an extra, i had no idea who she was lol :D
difficlty 2 years ago 3
Sarah Jane is still so sexy
swollower 2 years ago 38
The Doctor left her behind because he was going to Gallifrey and humans weren't allowed.
kyon813 2 years ago
Also, Sarah was getting a bit disconnected from her life on earth, plus what he says to Rose in School Reunion, about outliving them, and not wanting to see them age and die. There was a bond with Sarah that he rarely had with other companions.
SFAfan01 2 years ago 4
The bond between the Doctor and Sarah Jane was never romantic. I don't believe the Doctor ever gave her a hug in the old days
lecagot2 2 years ago 4
It wasn't romantic for either of them, so I don't like them pinning the unrequited love angle on Sarah Jane. But they might have hugged. I know he and Ace hugged. Ace was 19 and thought too young for the Doctor.
Bobsyermomsuncle 2 years ago 3
Actually all companions are (too young) younger than him - he was a 'grandfather' when the series began wasn't he.
009radix 2 years ago
Yup, and the character of the Doctor has changed with each new face. Ace was not, if I recall, not overjoyed when the Brig referred to her as the Doctor's "new assistant', but her relationship was more father to daughter.
And no, Sarah Jane would not have behaved in that way.
I didn't mind Rose with Nine, but with Ten both the role of the companion and the image Doctor became more "Mary Sue" fan fiction type characters.
Bobsyermomsuncle 2 years ago 2
Actually, when you think about it, that's a bit cowardly of him and ageist of the writers. Humans age. After all the Doctor lost, why would something natural like age matter? Why wouldn't he love seeing Rose grow and mature? He wants her 19 forever? Midlife Crisis anyone? Doctor One was an old man, had older companions. If he loved Rose, and her humanity then like Jack with Estelle, why wouldn't he cherish the Journey? Rose didn't care as long as she was with him.
Bobsyermomsuncle 2 years ago 3
But Leela Was
riguy39 2 years ago
Where's the cheese on toest
marvinalmodal 2 years ago
Sarah Jane's return was nice, but i'd really like to see Leela return.
Metroanime 2 years ago
Alas, Leela died in the time war
lecagot2 2 years ago
or did she ?
we've got The Doctor, the Master <& now Timothy Dalton as Timelords why couldn't Leela, or Romana
riguy39 2 years ago 4
Leela actually survived the time war.There was an audio drama about her after the war,I think
jadaiyuki12 2 years ago
It's still debatable whether the new adventures books/audio can be considered canon to the tv serials. The time war mentioned by doctor #9 isn't necessarily referring to the time war featured in the NA books.
009radix 2 years ago
Although its hard to judge a viewing figure of over 8million on a Saturday night today is comparitive to a massive, massive audience 20 or 30 years ago.
To pull in 8million today is some going. I'd say new Dr Who probably outstrips any viewing figures of the classic series across broad demographics. Its no big secret SJS + DR4 were successful becasue of good writing but broad appeal, as RT + DR10 mirrors.
marlandp 3 years ago
The broad audience appeal of Dr#4/SJS was a direct result of their complementary characters teamed with great writing and production.
The new Series has pulled ratings of 10+ million 4 times to date, indicating that it can pull Classic Who-level audiences with quality scripts and production.
Ratings-wise, the new Series is around the level of classic Seasons 9 and 10, having solid ratings with steady improvement.
glnelson1956 3 years ago
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marlandp 3 years ago
I adored this episode with a guest return of Sarah Jane Parker. She was my hero when I was a little girl.
Braveluck 3 years ago
sarah jane smith
TheHairofTime 2 years ago
Actually atleast half of his old companions simply walked away. Romana, Leela, Jo Grant and Liz Shaw just left the doctor and went on with their own lives like Matha.
Sarah Jane was one of a few he was forced to leave behind for one reason or another.
spectre111 3 years ago 5
sarah has aged like fine wine
DAZKLOPEX 3 years ago 5
Yeah! I can't believe how good she looks after all these years. This was such a cool idea.
foresmetwelve 2 years ago 5
An amazingly touching insight into the character of the Doctor. Very well done, BBC Writers, and to the actors who bring the characters to life. This is why British TV is the best in the world... nay, the Universe!
Kiwifrank 3 years ago
Brilliant! Touching, and amazing as well!
This has added a whole NEW dimension to the Doctor. I hope the writers continue on this note.
Actionguy1 3 years ago
WHEN'S ACE COMING BACK TO THE TARDIS?
CampBreezyBeach 3 years ago
Never. Don't get me wrong Ace surpassed Smith in every way, shape and form but due to the way the show was treated in the eighties the fans who grow up watching it at that time are in the minority, where as those for whom Sarah Jane was their first crush are in a VAAAASSSSSTTTT majority. This I firmly believe is the reason Sarah Jane Smith is regarded as the number one companion.
mrshushie 3 years ago
Though Sladen has said that Journey's End will most likely be her last return to Who so once SJA has run its course in a few years we might get a bit more balance the next time the production team feel nostalgic (so maybe I'm wrong about Ace after all) or maybe they'll just move on to Leela.
mrshushie 3 years ago
Sarah Jane is the number 1 companion. A show like Who thrives on its fanbase. In classic Who she was with 2 Doctors, did the most episodes, did a lot of the specials & was the first real bridge between falling/screaming & independent companions. However, my favorites are Leela & Romana I. But, the classic Who companion who I think should show up is Nyssa. Underutilized, an alien, stayed on another planet to help cure lepers & the Doctor has never been back. Great open-ended storyline.
youngjeune 3 years ago
DrWho pulled in the largest average seasonal audiences in its history when Sarah Jane Smith was companion to Tom Baker's Dr.
The smallest seasonal audiences in DrWho history, were when Ace was companion to Sylvester McCoy's Dr.
Sarah Jane is very highly regarded due to her realistic and down-to-earth portrayal by Lis Sladen. It is easy for the audience to ID with such a realistic character.
It is harder for the audience to ID with "cartoonish" companions like Ace or Leela.
glnelson1956 3 years ago
I could never stand her personally. Too much complaining and screaming and whimpering. Plus Sladen just ain't no great shakes as a thesp (but how many companions were). Great epsiode but Sarah, not my cup of tea.
LindseyHabibi 3 years ago
To each their own!
However, Baker/Sladen pulled in the largest audiences in WHO history, making them the most popular TARDIS team ever, so your opinion of Sarah Jane is in the minority.
Perhaps you have Sarah confused with Rose? Rose DOES do a lot of whimpering, complaining, whining and clinging.
I've seen all the "Sarah" stories, and the funny scene in ARK in SPACE was the only time she ever whimpered.
Mickey screamed louder and longer in SCHOOL REUNION than Sarah EVER did!
glnelson1956 3 years ago 2
You are fully entitled to dislike the Sarah Jane Smith character.
However, to infer that Elisabeth Sladen's acting abilities are 2nd rate, simply does not square with reality.
Creating a Sci-Fi character realistic, down-to-earth and believable enough to remain phenomenally popular with fans for 30+ years is no small feat!
I'm not sure how Lis Sladen did it, but her "Sarah Jane" has transcended time,