I agree with that some so called scholars are called serious just because a lobby or the mainstream TV wants us to believe so. On the other hand I assume that Finkelstein is surely an important speaker but he maybe doesn't know a lot about the all revisionist research that people like Faurisson have done.
lol different names in Israel. That is absolutely ridicilous. The smart thing would have been to say of course many jewish people died in WW2 but that doesn't mean holocaust happened.
It is pretty ridicilous to assume it didn't though. I do not support that belief at all, but these people are just not articulate or smart enough to really explain themselves properly.
Finkelstein is just as big a liar as his parents. Its amazing that all these survivors had these huge families and by some miracle of God they were the only ones to survive. If you read the Hilberg testimony from the Zundel trial it proves that Hilberg is not a serious scholar.
We need more, a lot more, like Lady Renouf. As for Finklestein what lame arguments and resorting to ad hominem attacks. As for his family they probably died from typhus or another disease which perhaps Lady Renouf should have addressed.
As for the Jews they turned Russia into a concentration camp long before Hitler came to power. They're simply the most evil people on the planet. As E Michael Jones points out in his book on Jewish revolutionaries they're at war with God's order! (LOGOS)
Are my family members still alive? Just because gas chambers were not involved didn't mean that they haven't died of malnutrician or typhus. Why does it always have to be gas chambers.
@majidmemari Cancer was within german and european societies, hitler tried to solve the corrupt problem. He did not. Now the cancer is back, and one day it will be -hopefully- solved FOR EVER.
I find what is going on with the palestinians to be tragic, also I do think that the occupation is a problem for Israels road to peace.
But I still find it pretty disturbing that people can actually deny the Holocaust, considering its the most documented event in history, not only against jews but also gypsies, homosexuals and even blacks.
Especially when it comes to mentally challenged people, that where the first to be gassed.
Let's stop worshiping at the Jewish altar of the Holocaust Religion. More of my White Polish people died and no one says a word since 97% of our media, even globally is controlled by Jews and only "their" point of view can be talked about. In the movie, "Katyn" about slaughter of the top 20,000 Poles who used to be puppets of Jews, no one speaks of that. Poland has been silenced, Germany, USA. I want to think for myself and not what they plant in my head. It's a disgrace to teach lies of Jews
go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
Sweeper: Try Google before you open that silly trap of yours. She married Sir Frank Renouf (nearly 30 yrs. her senior). He referred to their short marriage as "that nasty accident". They were divorced nearly 20 yrs. ago but she loves the title. She has credentials in landscape design apparently an important dicipline to debate her issues.
go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
You are very misinformed. You need to Google it. All historians are revisionists. Holocaust deniers are simply liars and have been debunked over and over and over. Very few if any deniers are historians at all. David Irving has been shown in court to be a propagandist and not a historian.
go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
Everybody doesn't have to agree with you. What kind of believe in freedom of speech is that? Norman Finkelstein would never want these people to go to jail, scholars or bad scholars. Neither would I. It is sad they put people to jail, just because they are bad scholars and say "Holocaust never happened". But I still think they are foolish scholars. And Renouf is absolutely not a scholar. She is't capable of answering his questions at all. Raul Hilberg is a Hollywood-version? Get real!
There seem to be both Holocaust deniers and Zionists who believe there are only two kinds of people: Those who are pro-Israel, pro-Zionist AND pro-Holocaust-happened, and those who are anti-Zionist AND also Holocaust deniers. Now, Normal Finkelstein is a Jew, he is NOT a Zionist, neither a Holocaust denier nor a self-hating Jew, his works are about the abuse of a history that did happen done by Zionists and the rich Jewish Lobbies.
I'll say you are. And it's hard to tell if you are a Holocaust revisionist or a Zionist revisionist. Either part usually react at your intellectual level.
I don't know if this conference helps honest people like Finkelstein or the actual Zionists. Norman Finkelstein is often attacked as a "self-hating Jew" or even "Holocaust denier" by hardline Zionists. The conference might help Zionists to "prove" that people who are anti-Zionists are also Holocaust deniers or neo-Nazis. On the other hand this yet again proves that Finkelstein is not a Holocaust denier or self-hating Jew. Finkelstein is an honest scholar and scientist.
Thats what zionist do, they turn it around from logical arguments to emotional ones. They distract the science, logical facts with poor me, feel for me. How many germans, russians died during/after the war but all we hear is this magical number of jews.
What Michelle Renouf knows about the Holocaust can be written on the head of a pin with a felt-tipped pen. For Finklestein to enter into discourse with her is utterly grotesque. His parents survived the Holocaust and yet he dishonors their name by arguing with woman whose main asset appears to be...well... enough said.
I'm no expert on the so-called "holocaust" (of the Jew's OR the German's in Dresden)but, well, aren't most of the scholars he mentions in prison right now for daring to tell the truth :(?
Jews like Finkelstein, despite his arrogance about his stature as a great scholor, will never deal with direct questions directly. Raul Hilberg??? Watch the Holocaust Denial movie if you want more information on the accuracy of Raul Hilberg...Search Google videos to find it. It is simple...if you do not want the TRUTH to get out, you make it ILLEGAL to speak or otherwise disseminate the TRUTH!
Many jews were indeed shot in the east - revisionists do not claim that this did not happen, it is simply a matter of looking at the facts and evidence! Why the reluctance? 6 million is the bottom line.. Because you say so Mr Finkelstein?
Nobody is saying his family did not perish! In a world war there is plenty of scope for life to be lost. One of the biggest killers in the so called deth camps was Typhus. We are shown film of 500 typhus victims and we are told to believe in the holocaust based on this?
The fact that many jews died during WW2 in camps is indisputable, but HOW they died & just HOW MANY is not free to debate, which is 100% absurd. Some jews survived up to 8 or 9 different prison camps, which makes you wonder just what was so different about those jews who weren't killed OVER AND OVER AND OVER, when the story is that the nazis wanted EVERY SINGLE JEW dead. The mere existence of so many survivors is proof that the idea of killing every jew was NOT the policy of the Nazis.
Exactly mate, Ive never thought about it that way before, alot of survivors survived loads of different camps - not very efficient death machines then?
i think you've really made a crucial point. if only mr.finkelstein could read ur statement, since for some reason, unbeknown,he is adamant about HOW MANY
Notice how he suddenly brings out his victimhood to intimidate this woman/audience with 'his relatives' story. He deals (like his kinfolk) in hearsay and lies while arrogantly stating that those holding different to as academically inferior.
So Norm,where's the evidence that they were gassed? Photo or certificate. Is there a gas chamber there in Treblinka? Where are the records? Hey Norm, put up or shut up!
Dr Finkelstein's question about his family was a non sequitur. The fact that members of his family disappeared during WWII does not mean that they died, still less that they were gassed or otherwise murdered. Most crucially he fails to answer Lady Renouf's earlier point about the memorial plaques at Auschwitz. They originally claimed 4 million Jewish deaths at that camp alone, but now say 1 million. The overall figure has been maintained at 6 million. How can this be accurate? 6-3=6 ????
Finkelstein is a jew..a closet Zionist working in damage control. His equating those rejecting the Holohoax and the systematic attempt to liquidate jews as 'the flat earth society' shows which side this rat bats for.
I agree with that some so called scholars are called serious just because a lobby or the mainstream TV wants us to believe so. On the other hand I assume that Finkelstein is surely an important speaker but he maybe doesn't know a lot about the all revisionist research that people like Faurisson have done.
beyondtruthagain 4 months ago
lol different names in Israel. That is absolutely ridicilous. The smart thing would have been to say of course many jewish people died in WW2 but that doesn't mean holocaust happened.
It is pretty ridicilous to assume it didn't though. I do not support that belief at all, but these people are just not articulate or smart enough to really explain themselves properly.
kenzo4000 7 months ago
Finkelstein is just as big a liar as his parents. Its amazing that all these survivors had these huge families and by some miracle of God they were the only ones to survive. If you read the Hilberg testimony from the Zundel trial it proves that Hilberg is not a serious scholar.
The808102 9 months ago
We need more, a lot more, like Lady Renouf. As for Finklestein what lame arguments and resorting to ad hominem attacks. As for his family they probably died from typhus or another disease which perhaps Lady Renouf should have addressed.
As for the Jews they turned Russia into a concentration camp long before Hitler came to power. They're simply the most evil people on the planet. As E Michael Jones points out in his book on Jewish revolutionaries they're at war with God's order! (LOGOS)
Rentie 9 months ago
Are my family members still alive? Just because gas chambers were not involved didn't mean that they haven't died of malnutrician or typhus. Why does it always have to be gas chambers.
Heidelmann 10 months ago
@majidmemari Cancer was within german and european societies, hitler tried to solve the corrupt problem. He did not. Now the cancer is back, and one day it will be -hopefully- solved FOR EVER.
Wassouf10 11 months ago
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Fikelstein is a fake ..unfortunately revionist used it too much
pomati2000afterban 11 months ago
Finkelstein's finest moment, IMHO.
ladypeinforte 1 year ago
Shes looking at the revisionist sources.
As someone whos planning on education within history I know that you have to deal with basic facts, what is true.
Siting revisionists or deniers as facts is not a serious research.
Its supporting your own conclusions.
besmb2105 1 year ago
I find what is going on with the palestinians to be tragic, also I do think that the occupation is a problem for Israels road to peace.
But I still find it pretty disturbing that people can actually deny the Holocaust, considering its the most documented event in history, not only against jews but also gypsies, homosexuals and even blacks.
Especially when it comes to mentally challenged people, that where the first to be gassed.
besmb2105 1 year ago 2
The women is a joke.
ArmAMedia 1 year ago
Let's stop worshiping at the Jewish altar of the Holocaust Religion. More of my White Polish people died and no one says a word since 97% of our media, even globally is controlled by Jews and only "their" point of view can be talked about. In the movie, "Katyn" about slaughter of the top 20,000 Poles who used to be puppets of Jews, no one speaks of that. Poland has been silenced, Germany, USA. I want to think for myself and not what they plant in my head. It's a disgrace to teach lies of Jews
birdbath7 1 year ago 2
The first and only debate that Mr. Finkelstein lost,imo.
peace
og4lmf 2 years ago 2
Finkelstein is not a holocaust denier and his comments sort of hit them with a brick.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
No shit. Especially at about 4:00, he just leaves them all speechless.
fagbert 2 years ago
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go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
gpoyt 2 years ago
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go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
gpoyt 2 years ago
Sweeper: Try Google before you open that silly trap of yours. She married Sir Frank Renouf (nearly 30 yrs. her senior). He referred to their short marriage as "that nasty accident". They were divorced nearly 20 yrs. ago but she loves the title. She has credentials in landscape design apparently an important dicipline to debate her issues.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
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go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
gpoyt 2 years ago
You are very misinformed. You need to Google it. All historians are revisionists. Holocaust deniers are simply liars and have been debunked over and over and over. Very few if any deniers are historians at all. David Irving has been shown in court to be a propagandist and not a historian.
AgouraMo 3 years ago
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go check her intervention on France and NWO she wears the "all seeing eye" who refers to the illuminatis who are knowned for "having great knowledge" and guess what the presentator is wearing the pyramids signs on his tie. Finally, just look at the logo of the channel (The glowing sun) typical sign of illumninaties.
Go check youtuber Earthlasthope channel on them. Youll awaken, Peace my brothers.
gpoyt 2 years ago
Lady Renouf daughter of a cab driver who fabricated her education to impress the uninformed is back at it. Google her.
AgouraMo 3 years ago
screw off!!!!! then why is she called Lady renouf??
sweeperisDboss 2 years ago
Raul Hilberg is NOT a Hollywood-version
Reptile0000 3 years ago
By the time theyre finished with Iraq, Vietnam will look like chickenfeed. Trust me.
obliviouspet 3 years ago
Everybody doesn't have to agree with you. What kind of believe in freedom of speech is that? Norman Finkelstein would never want these people to go to jail, scholars or bad scholars. Neither would I. It is sad they put people to jail, just because they are bad scholars and say "Holocaust never happened". But I still think they are foolish scholars. And Renouf is absolutely not a scholar. She is't capable of answering his questions at all. Raul Hilberg is a Hollywood-version? Get real!
RSFO 3 years ago 3
if David Duke enters on your list of scholars.....
kloten 3 years ago
There seem to be both Holocaust deniers and Zionists who believe there are only two kinds of people: Those who are pro-Israel, pro-Zionist AND pro-Holocaust-happened, and those who are anti-Zionist AND also Holocaust deniers. Now, Normal Finkelstein is a Jew, he is NOT a Zionist, neither a Holocaust denier nor a self-hating Jew, his works are about the abuse of a history that did happen done by Zionists and the rich Jewish Lobbies.
RSFO 4 years ago 2
RSFO...shut up...you have shit for brains...dumb ass...
dudemantwo 3 years ago
I'll say you are. And it's hard to tell if you are a Holocaust revisionist or a Zionist revisionist. Either part usually react at your intellectual level.
RSFO 3 years ago
RSFO...I am your mother...
dudemantwo 3 years ago
I don't know if this conference helps honest people like Finkelstein or the actual Zionists. Norman Finkelstein is often attacked as a "self-hating Jew" or even "Holocaust denier" by hardline Zionists. The conference might help Zionists to "prove" that people who are anti-Zionists are also Holocaust deniers or neo-Nazis. On the other hand this yet again proves that Finkelstein is not a Holocaust denier or self-hating Jew. Finkelstein is an honest scholar and scientist.
RSFO 4 years ago 2
Thats what zionist do, they turn it around from logical arguments to emotional ones. They distract the science, logical facts with poor me, feel for me. How many germans, russians died during/after the war but all we hear is this magical number of jews.
basem22 4 years ago 2
Norman Finkelstein slammed them!
YaLibnanTV 4 years ago
What Michelle Renouf knows about the Holocaust can be written on the head of a pin with a felt-tipped pen. For Finklestein to enter into discourse with her is utterly grotesque. His parents survived the Holocaust and yet he dishonors their name by arguing with woman whose main asset appears to be...well... enough said.
hmazal 4 years ago
If you wish to confound this "bunch of morons", please point us in the direction of these "nazi records" that "prove" your case.
heritageanddestiny 5 years ago
I'm no expert on the so-called "holocaust" (of the Jew's OR the German's in Dresden)but, well, aren't most of the scholars he mentions in prison right now for daring to tell the truth :(?
Stormcaster 5 years ago
Jews like Finkelstein, despite his arrogance about his stature as a great scholor, will never deal with direct questions directly. Raul Hilberg??? Watch the Holocaust Denial movie if you want more information on the accuracy of Raul Hilberg...Search Google videos to find it. It is simple...if you do not want the TRUTH to get out, you make it ILLEGAL to speak or otherwise disseminate the TRUTH!
watwp 5 years ago
Many jews were indeed shot in the east - revisionists do not claim that this did not happen, it is simply a matter of looking at the facts and evidence! Why the reluctance? 6 million is the bottom line.. Because you say so Mr Finkelstein?
andy7666 5 years ago
Nobody is saying his family did not perish! In a world war there is plenty of scope for life to be lost. One of the biggest killers in the so called deth camps was Typhus. We are shown film of 500 typhus victims and we are told to believe in the holocaust based on this?
andy7666 5 years ago
The fact that many jews died during WW2 in camps is indisputable, but HOW they died & just HOW MANY is not free to debate, which is 100% absurd. Some jews survived up to 8 or 9 different prison camps, which makes you wonder just what was so different about those jews who weren't killed OVER AND OVER AND OVER, when the story is that the nazis wanted EVERY SINGLE JEW dead. The mere existence of so many survivors is proof that the idea of killing every jew was NOT the policy of the Nazis.
hughtub 5 years ago
Exactly mate, Ive never thought about it that way before, alot of survivors survived loads of different camps - not very efficient death machines then?
andy7666 5 years ago
i think you've really made a crucial point. if only mr.finkelstein could read ur statement, since for some reason, unbeknown,he is adamant about HOW MANY
segits 4 years ago
Protect your right to free speech by exercising it! Deprogram your mind, research the facts and think for yourself and then spread the word!
didascalicon 5 years ago
Notice how he suddenly brings out his victimhood to intimidate this woman/audience with 'his relatives' story. He deals (like his kinfolk) in hearsay and lies while arrogantly stating that those holding different to as academically inferior.
So Norm,where's the evidence that they were gassed? Photo or certificate. Is there a gas chamber there in Treblinka? Where are the records? Hey Norm, put up or shut up!
HarryGoto 5 years ago
Dr Finkelstein's question about his family was a non sequitur. The fact that members of his family disappeared during WWII does not mean that they died, still less that they were gassed or otherwise murdered. Most crucially he fails to answer Lady Renouf's earlier point about the memorial plaques at Auschwitz. They originally claimed 4 million Jewish deaths at that camp alone, but now say 1 million. The overall figure has been maintained at 6 million. How can this be accurate? 6-3=6 ????
heritageanddestiny 5 years ago
Finkelstein is under damage control and we know from the way he talks and opinions he holds
HarryGoto 5 years ago
Finkelstein is a jew..a closet Zionist working in damage control. His equating those rejecting the Holohoax and the systematic attempt to liquidate jews as 'the flat earth society' shows which side this rat bats for.
HarryGoto 5 years ago
Nail her Norman!
rivercmb 5 years ago