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  • Recent footage of PG was taken that show it flying backwards, with the solar panels facing away from the sun, and the craft not tumbling. This means that it was inserted in that orientation. No, sorry and with respect, it's simple incompetence.

  • Try drinking a glass of milk before narrating

  • It broke up & crashed in sea and Africa

  • it is a machine and sometimes machines go wrong for no reason, no aliens, no conspiracy, just bad luck

  • another one bites the dust again doomers loool.

  • If you desire your spacecraft to work as intended... don't go to Phobos. It will void the warranty.

  • I don't trust mac users.

  • I was with you until you mentioned aliens......interesting video though.

  • so Fobos-Grunt has some sort of super bacteria on board

  • hmm. could be a false flag for a land based bio attack...but it seems like alot of trouble.TPTB arent that subtle these days

  • There was a Phobus probe that got destroyed supposedly by a UFO near Mars,there was picture taken of the UFO and it was 22 km long.

  • @SilentlyKilling Both Phobos 1 and 2 were busted, but P2 had time to send some images to Earth, anyway I'm afraid that the famous pic presented by Marina Popovich, was not an UFO. That image has been debunked already, as a camera artifact. The whole set of images taken by Phobos are here:

    h t t p : / / w w w(.)planetary(.)org/data/phobo­s2/

    h t t p : / / forgetomori(.)com/2009/ufos/ph­obos-2-a-bloody-soviet-close-e­ncounter/

  • @undercoveralien I don't know, you may be right. But the probe got destroyed right after it took those shots. It was nearly 100% destroyed.

  • @undercoveralien Both of those pages were taken down or arent available

  • @SilentlyKilling Both Phobos 1 and 2 were busted, but P2 had time to send some images to Earth, anyway I'm afraid that the famous pic presented by Marina Popovich, was not an UFO. That image has been debunked already, as a camera artifact. The whole set of images taken by Phobos are here:

    h t t p : / / w w w(.)planetary(.)org/data/phobo­s2/

    h t t p : / / forgetomori(.)com/2009/ufos/ph­obos-2-a-bloody-soviet-close-e­ncounter/

  • @SilentlyKilling Though there's still that photo of a huge shadow on Mars surface, that's no moon and no Russian orbiter. That one is still not debunked.

  • @SilentlyKilling Though there's still that photo of a huge shadow on Mars surface, that's no moon and no Russian orbiter. That one is still not debunked. 

  • Great comedy! Thanks for the laugh! The bacteria "linked to AIDS" is linked only because it is not normally a pathogen EXCEPT in persons whose immunity is compromised by cancer or AIDS. Thanks for actually showing that in your video. I had to pause it, but there it was.

  • Um, why would the Russians use their *highly publicised* Mars mission as a biological weapon when they could attach a small return capsule filled with bacteria to any of their numerous military spy satellite launches?

  • IMO PG is a huge EMP when its detonated (consistant in sat orbit, but not controlled? right) . This would take out all the sats; no more drones, high tech gadgets, or gps after the war has started. As far as bio weapon, no microbe would survive the burning. but the cobalt once on the ground would be highly radioactive. 1 gram of cobalt (aprx240tons) equally covering the earth surface is enough to kill all life. Georgia Guide Stones anyone (keep the population under 500,000,000). Just a thought

  • A clever communist chemical & biological weapon with plausible deniability, most likely still secretly controllable & designed to fall on the American expansionist empire before its mid-east & global conquest is achieved, just prior to mass panic & civil unrest, just prior to upcoming invasion. The world's Spoiler soon to be itself spoiled: ISAIAH 33

  • @ZNEOPEC can you quote where you heard that from?

  • Revelation18 coming. Denver airport murals show the 10 horns and America estroyed. Shows america wth the caged unclean birds. USS carl Vinson nuclear patch even shows america nuked and them trying to kill the bride of Christ at the rapture. the rapture is where The voice from heaven says, Comer out of her my people. It is shown right on the USS carl vinsn patch. Jesus reaching down from heaven Revelation 14 he reaps us which is at babylons destruction.NWO rises from the ashes Of world nuclearwar

  • Arabidopsis thaliana, is a plant... Haloarcula marismortui is a non-pathogenic bacteria from the dead sea..... it's not harmful to humans or animals... Tardigrades is the famous Water Beart organism...B. subtilis is not a human pathogen. It may contaminate food but rarely causes food poisoning.....

  • The Craig Venter Institute has used a system derived from the rapid DNA repair mechanisms of D. radiodurans to assemble synthetic DNA fragments into chromosomes, with the ultimate goal of producing a synthetic organism they call Mycoplasma laboratorium

    UH oh! the same fucker was involved with Novartis making synthetic vaccines. Ever heard of THE GULF BLUE PLAGUE? Mycoplasma laboratorium is dangerous, it can cause Sepsis, bacterial infection of the blood, it's antibiotic resistant

  • @420protoman Bacillus subtilis is a stealth surrogate for Anthrax. Check the links I've embedded in the info box. Plenty of documentation proving it.

    Hidden in plain sight!

  • @undercoveralien

    did you read my other comment about how D. radiodurans is used by Ventor to make his stupid M. Laboratorium ... the whole phobos grunt mission is sketchy, it could be used to instigate a war. Lets say it crashes on a certain country and they point the finger at the makers of GRUNT , they point the finger saying it was a stealth military attack tactic. totally could happen. i hope not.

  • @420protoman I've read some article about Craig Venter's synthetic DNA. Anyway, the certain country you are talking about, has technology to hit the Phobos-Grunt before it hit the ground. If they do, this certainly will piss off the Russians and the shit could hit the fan. Or TPTB could have something already prepared and will use this satellite as a decoy. There are some different scenarios, and all scary.

  • @420protoman I've read some article about Craig Venter's synthetic DNA. Anyway, the certain country you are talking about, has technology to hit the Phobos-Grunt before it hit the ground. If they do, this certainly will piss off the Russians and the shit could hit the fan. Or TPTB could have something already prepared and will use this satellite as a decoy. There are some different scenarios, and all scary.

  • @undercoveralien A surrogate in microbiology is an organism that has similar physical or physiological characteristics as a pathogen, but is itself harmless. For example, if you want to test an air filter removing anthrax spores in a building you use the harmless Bacillus subtilis spores instead of Bacillus anthracis spores. This way, people don't die from anthrax but you have data that can be assumed to be valid for anthrax spores as well.

  • Well, we'll see how many people start dying of Anthrax once it crashes, I still say the only harm it will do will be to the people who are unfortunate enough to be under it when it eventually fals.

  • you know your wrong, who's agenda are you helping. More fake doom. Your all sad,

  • Quit with the fear porn ya'll. Its what TPTB want. Search for 'collective conscious.' They feed off our fears. Cliche as it sounds, listen to Yoda. Star Wars is not all science fiction you know :)

  • What about the 4th hypothesis, that it was a mars probe that went embarrasingly wrong, and you are just another scaremonger to sits at his computer just DYING to be one day proved right when lots of people get killed just like you said.

    GHOUL!!

  • @Wordavee1 Junior, make us a great favor: Go back to your concerns about "Why does god make so many souls?" and let the serious issues of mankind, for people with a little bit more maturity.

  • @undercoveralien This may very well be how they will start off the alien psy op, its also the most plausible scenario. This can easily be developed overtime into a full blown ET hoax, just like you see how a story develops on any TV show. This could be the motive behind the sudden surge of reports of stuff falling from space like satellites. I can see the conditioning for this by the entertainment industry as well.

    Crysis: /watch?v=7snW2xQyurE&feature=p­layer_embedded

    The Invasion movie

  • @undercoveralien

    So you think you are exhibiting "maturity" by putting out crap like this?

    Look at your claims:-

    1. It's a biological weapon.

    If anyone wanted to make a Bio weapon delivery system, they have gone about it in a ridiculously expensive & inaccurate way & who is it supposedly aimed at? You say there is enough evidence to support this but give no references or proof. Salmonella & Anthrax, though unpleasent, are unlikely to infect anyone not in direct contact with the satellite.

  • @Wordavee1 Bad start. I didn't say that the Phobos-Grunt is carrying Salmonella. I said that NASA has grown a culture of Salmonella aboard the Shuttle to prove that microorganisms become more lethal after exposure to microgravity. If you do not consider or do not admit a falling spacecraft full of mutant surrogates for Anthrax, as a possible biological weapon, or you are way too narrow minded or a paid shill.

  • @undercoveralien

    All you know is a culture of Salmonella becomes 3-7 times more virulent in space, that is NOT anthrax. You have not proved Anthrax is onboard, it does not appear in the list of 10 "extremophiles" and just because S'lla. changes does not mean any of the others are particularly toxic or will become more so.

    As I said, if u want to release a bio attack on the earth; making a multi-million $ mars probe & crashing it back to earth is a very expensive & inefficient way to do it.

  • @Wordavee1 So do you wanna see an official of Roscosmos, stating "Hey, we are carrying Anthrax aboard the Phobos-Grunt"...

    Seriously, here is where I'm done with you. Try somebody else willing to argue with shills.

  • @undercoveralien

    So you presume that because there is NO official announcement saying " There IS Anthrax in PG." you automatically assume there must be.

    By that logic, they also HAVEN'T said there are 13 yr old girls put there for your aliens to impregnate with their alien sperm, so THAT must be true too.

    Where did you get the idea there is anthrax on board in the first place?

  • @Wordavee1 Enjoy this answer because it's the LAST time I'm addressing to you. BACILLUS SUBTILIS = ANTHRAX SURROGATE; BACILLUS SUBTILIS IS ABOARD THE PHOBOS-GRUNT; by logical deduction, a CAMEL can figure out the odds of that Russian "lost" spacecraft, be a biological weapon or AT LEAST, a biological warfare experiment that went wrong.

    I do NOT care if you disagree and believe me, I do NOT give a FUCK about what you think about my theory.

  • @Wordavee1 But I see you are spamming the space for comments with this pathetic attempt of discredit the subject. Well, take a good look at the stats of this video and convince yourself that people are not that stupid, for buying shill disinformation. Anyway, I told you I'm not willing to argue with shills. Do you wanna debunk me?? Make YOUR video, explaining for YOUR audience, how "paranoid" you think I am and upload to YOUR channel.

  • @Wordavee1 I'm sick of you spamming this space. If you address your psychobabble to me, just ONE more time, I'll block you.

    I already told you and I'll tell for the last time: I DON'T GIVE A FUCK about your disagreement with what I think. I'd put a shitload of sources for further investigation and the stats of the video prove that people are able to figure out the things for themselves. End of this conversation!!

    Now do me a favor: Post just more ONE spam, please!

  • @undercoveralien

    Block me and you've lost the argument!!!

  • @Wordavee1 No I didn't. 7 pages of comments so far, how many people have agreed with you?? How many people agreed with my theory?? Take a look at the video stats.

    Try me douchebag!! Post ONE more spam or address to me ONE more time! Please!

  • @undercoveralien

    2. Pre-planned or Sabotaged by "The Powers That Be". To cause a "massive disaster".

    WHY? Who are "T.P.T.B." what would& they gain by that? It will not be a "Massive Disaster" when it crashes to earth, unless it makes a direct hit on a city, but who gains even if it does? It would cause less damage that many of the earthquakes we have had lately, & make no reason for similar reactions as after 911 as no one is to "blame" except the incompetant Russians or Chinese.

  • @Wordavee1 "Who are TPTB and what would they gain by killing people??"

    Are you for real??

  • @420protoman

    Which war would be started by either sabotaging, or deliberately planning to crash, this very expensive piece of machinery???

    undercoveralien won't answer, so you try, who are TPTB and what would they gain by this device crashing???

  • @Wordavee1

    ok you need to understand money means nothing to these ppl. they create the money... banksters, world leaders, polititions CEOs of major corporations, ect ect...... they have always used war to gain something.... it doesnt' matter to them how much money is wasted... as long as they get results..... example.: read the "balfour declaration" do a little search for it on youtube. there's only a few vids about it. world war was used to create the nation Isreal. it's on paper documents

  • @undercoveralien

    3 & 4 Intercepted my Aliens.

    This is just too silly, or should I say "immature"? There is no basis whatsoever for this "hypothesis" There have been many Mars probes which have reached Mars, also, how would the "Aliens" know this satellite was supposed to go to Mars? They couldn't tell until it was on it's course, but it never got that far.

  • @undercoveralien

    More 4.

    Phobos is an alien space station.

    This was speculated in the 1960's,40 years ago!! The "Phobos hollow & therefore artificial" hypothesis proposed by Shklovsky & Dr. Fred Singer was based on several independent sets of measurements taken decades apart by different observers with different instruments, systematic errors influenced them & later observations showed these to be inaccurate. Ufologists still present Singer as a supporter of the Phobos hypothesis.

  • @Wordavee1 The Phobos hollow theory, was only replaced by the modern version which states that it "might" be a porous body instead of solid, according to alleged data obtained by Mars Express. Well, I don't have access to radio signals of the Mars Express probing Phobos and I don't pay American taxes, so I don't fell like I'm obliged to believe what is told by NASA, specially because I've demonstrated in other videos, several evidence of ancient civilizations in Mars.

  • @undercoveralien

    More on Phobos.

    Singer's 1966 proposal to land on Phobos as the next step after a moon landing on the theory that Phobos was a solid object with some degree of gravity. After 1969, the corrected data proved that Phobos behaved like a solid object, not a hollow sphere, and the Shklovsky hypothesis was abandoned by all but the true believers in UFO conspiracy theories, who continue to cite the "what if" speculations of Shklovsky, Singer & others as though they were facts.

  • @Wordavee1 And as far as I have absolutely no intention of convince skeptics of anything and I'm not willing to spend my time with shills, this conversation is useless. I have provided enough evidence to make people think for themselves. They do whatever they want with the information I've shared. If you think my theories are not for you, just leave this channel, or try to reach something else with your skeptic (or shill) point of view. You won't affect my point of view.

  • @undercoveralien

    Evidence seems in short supply, imagination & paranoia rules I'd say.

  • @Wordavee1 I couldn't care less about what you say.

  • @undercoveralien

    I think you DO care, because I have demolished your so called "hypotheses", asked you for proof for your extravegant claims which you can't provide and challenged your world view where YOU are the big clever man in a world of fools, when actually your ego is only equal in size to your paranoia.

  • @Wordavee1 I see how you "demolished" by hypothesis. Are you blind?? Take a look at the stats of the video, since the day I've uploaded and take a look at how many people have addressed to your comments, agreeing with your attempts of discredit the subject.

    Try harder, douchebag!

  • @undercoveralien

    So, in conclusion, your idea that PG contains "Highly lethat mutated bacteria" due to crash to earth & cause a "Massive disaster" is a plan hatched by Aliens, somehow in cahoots with the Russian, Chinese or whatever other "Powers that be" your fevered imagination has dreamed up, just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

    The satellite falling may cause loss of life, but it will be because of bad luck & incompetance, not a plot to errrr....... WHAT??

  • Making an cock-up into a conspiracy, aren't ya sick of 'em??

  • Well this just gets better and better dosn't it. *sigh*

  • will it burn in atmosphere??

    of course it will not because its made to not burn.

    will it impact in earth??

    of course it will.

    does somebody know where?

    no, unless rusians lied and they wana start biolgical war

  • emp would be far more effective.

  • Great video!! What is a bugout bag?

  • its got two weeks juice in its battery, why was the program cut in orbit - so now the probe is in orbit what really is the thing there looking for, phobos has that monolith as if we would see that investigated.

  • BTW, has does anyone wondered why the thing FAILED with China being involved? All they make is crap which they sell at Wallyworld.

  • There's alot of comments about secret craft & ET techology, but has anyone stopped to think why Obama could cancel the shuttle program without a replacement for at least 4 more years? BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A MEANS TO TRAVEL TO SPACE WITHOUT NASA! And paying the Russians to bring our astronauts to the ISS is just a ruse. Plus the Russian have been losing craft for years.

  • 99% was fringe, but the 1% truth is that Phobos-Grunt was sabotaged by the-powers-that-be. Perhaps they will also sabotage the launch of the NASA Curiosity rover which carries a mini-nuclear reactor? I'm sure they tried - but failed - to sabotage the launch of the new I.S.S. crew.

    Your "aliens", "reptilians", etc, are really demonic jinn, perpetrating their corruption of humankind for iblis and dajjal. These are what the-powers-that-be serve and worship. Sounds fringe? Feel free to research it.

  • You must know this : these microbial strains are already abundantly prevalent in every breath you take. What is of concern is the other technical toxins involved in the craft. Or of uninformed payload!

  • @09mldaniel Oh yeah, there's nothing to worry about mutant bacteria surrogate for Anthrax and who knows what else.

  • @undercoveralien Where do you think they got these cultures? Go out into your backyard. The samples, if the size reported is accurate , Its of no concern (unless it lands right in your veins). Biological weapons are weapons of fear. Not as effective to large populous in reality .

  • @09mldaniel Oh really?? So the Russian military, caught cultures of microorganisms for a possible biological attack here or in Phobos, in their "backyard"???

    "Biological weapons are weapons of fear. Not as effective to large populous in reality." Tell this bullshit for all the Africans assassinated by Ebola, AIDS and other biological weapons developed by the US military and tested in Africa.

    Shills...

  • @undercoveralien Viral organisms are a different factor: Like ebola and aids. These are not transferred without a host being present eg. the DNA of a human . The bacteriological group that was mentioned in the video is actually available in non oxygenated soil and feces. They do not survive ultraviolet or O2 presence unless they are in spore form.

  • @09mldaniel In case of you have ignored the links I've embedded in the info box, the Bacillus Subtilis simulates a spore for Anthrax.

  • @undercoveralien Yes I know . The spores can survive a space environment too.

  • I wondered about the super bugs that defy reasoning as to why they would take them into deep space to begin with. They say to see if they survive space travel but they already sent them up with Endeavor. Also is a small "native" soil sample from sudan or some other desert country? for what? another theory-flying bomb warning US to not begin WWIII. I think Martians know they want to rape their planet.

  • great topic UA,will be following this one,it seems something on or around phobos doesnt want us there,no surprise there considering we are about to infect it.mans stupidity knows no bounds it seems.also saw an article about a so called leak where china would 'catch a cold'all very worrying if you ask me,thanks for your efforts in bringing this to our attention.peace.

  • Dang why Russian just get so many fail missions! every time they have big plans something goes wrong...

    N.A.S.A. would say "You can't build cheap rockets and expect them to work".

  • @Ramiromasters You know that NASA has a contract until 2015, for pay $62.7 million per seat, for American astronauts hitch a ride on Soyuz rockets, don't you??

  • @undercoveralien yeah i saw that ...thats alot of cash for one person wht?...

  • @Ramiromasters The Phobos grunt was meant to be Fail

    and it will hit america for sure

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  • Thanks for using the voice, It makes so much more sense.

  • Yet another Russian clusterfuck

  • phoboes is just like our moon.. an artificial moon...

  • This sounds like pure stupidity! if they have special Techonology from ET's why dont they use it!

  • @DJDankLifeCrisis Who said they don't use it?? Have you ever heard about TR3B, Aurora program??

  • What a disaster? These people are crazy!

  • The spacecraft's fall into Earth's atmosphere would appear to be too unpredictable for use as a targeted biological weapon, unless the Russians were lying about losing control of the craft in the first place. Biological weapons are also likely to have unpredictable consequences that may well result in the annihilation of those who would use them. This is similar to the dangers posed by the M.A.D. nuclear weapons threat, whereby any lunatic who would start a nuclear war would die in it.

  • @clemstevenson

    A voice of reason in a desert of paranoia!! Thank you!!

  • @Wordavee1 Thank you. I try to balance the equation, so-to-speak, in a world gone conspiracy crazy. Sure, there are bound to be conspiracies in this world, but it would take a real suicidal fruitcake to deliberately dump dangerous microbes in the stratosphere.

  • its an insurance policy.

  • Deutscher Untertitel wäre soooo schön !!! Lie Search Übersetzer ist nicht zu erstehen ... LG

  • @MiundAn Tnks for commenting in German, so that nobody, except Germans, can read it!

  • What if U.S. Is behind this failure ? Maybe the shot it with a laser or something. To bring shame to Russia.

  • phobos and mars has to be a waystation for the annunaki or other advanced beings over us. it's an intergalactic revolution with a mind blowing conclusion.thanx for your dedication and ever expanding information.

  • maybe this is what will start the zombie apocalypse

  • this voice is very annoying, please! go back to the white letters messages.

    thanks

  • @Guillefxp It's not gonna happen. I'm done with subtitles. Though, perhaps I use another voice less annoying in the next video.

  • Sun is kicking their bits of tin out of the sky...this is going to get a lot worse too Sun is ramping up to kick some Illuminati arse! 

  • Phobos is a greek word and it means fear. Should we be afraid? Fun fun fun:P

  • HAHA way to hand the keys over to the russkies, NASA

  • I was thinking along the lines that TPTB did do something to prevent it from reaching Mars.

    Maybe there is something there they dont want us or others to know about.It is an interesting thought.Keep up the good work mate.

    Thanks.

  • @TheFifaJay i agree, the u.s. can't have anyone going up there to find their bases or the large number of people they have living and working there, or to find that the atmospere is breathable for humans as well as the planets natural flora and fauna. that would end up setting their plans back by years. they will never allow a mission to mars by any other nation to happen. this most recent mission was disabled by the elite and the u.s. military (emp)

    yeah, i am certifiable, lol. but what if? O_O

  • @MrBuckwilliam

    Nice reply my friend.

    What's also interesting me and tied to the info presented here is that Curiosity is launching to,

    Yuo've guessed it,Mars in 12 days time.

    Someone seem's eager to get there faster than anyone else and cover up some stuff,and possibly their tracks ;-).

    Peace.

  • @TheFifaJay Nice call buddy! Definitely the timing between Curiosity launch and Phobos-Grunt failure, is no coincidence.

  • Symptoms of acute(short term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, coma in humans. Acute exposure can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system. The liquid is corrosive and may produce dermatitis from skin contact in humans and animals. Effects to the lungs, liver, spleen, and thyroid have been reported in animals chronically exposed to hydrazine via inhalation.

  • On February 21, 2008, the United States government destroyed the disabled spy satellite USA 193 with a sea-launched missile, reportedly due to the potential danger of a hydrazine release if it re-entered the Earth's atmosphere intact

  • it is 00.33 GMT 13.11.2011 altitude is 210km and going down rely fast !!!!

  • @TheSerho just wanted to know how you know this. jason

  • @TBU2012 sorry i was wrong with the word fast :) but its speed is going down

  • love your vids man you sound like stephen hawking

  • it still being URSS, not RUSSIA.

  • I don't know, seems like if they wanted to attack us biologically they could do it a lot cheaper than this way.

  • @purpurpledog8 Something falling from the sky has a very traumatizing effect in people. Notice all these fear mongering psyop happening this year, concerning comets and meteors zapping near Earth's orbit, "lost" satellites, "lost" rockets... It's not only the attack itself. The horror of the modus operandi used by the Illuminati, makes people loses energy. The evil feed on fear.

  • @undercoveralien

    yeah and you with your vids make me lose energy just more and more :P

  • @undercoveralien How do you think this could be used as an alien psy op?

  • @dcopymope I'm not sure about what you are asking, but in case of the UFO sightings increase this month, due this falling satellite, TPTB could use it for push more propaganda of a hostile alien invasion.

  • Mutant space germs, not a very happy thought.

  • scarry stuff, interesting theories.

    thanks

  • Maybe the Russians are already there on Mars! (With the Americans) distraction ?

  • THIS is EXACTLY lite Battlefield bad company 2! If anyone has played the game , you'd know that Russia is secretly planning to invade the US, and a fallen satellite would be the perfect catalyst.

  • another good time for practicing detachment *sigh*

  • Is everyone getting sick of all the junk they leave in our orbit? Its getting to be a familiar thing, "SOMETHING in orbit is going to crash to earth, LOOK OUT!"

  • There are many historical herbs and plants that can fight and help against anthrax, You wont find the cures in in the medical field, that isn't linked with unpronouncible chemicals! Check in homiopathec medicine sites on line , lots of info for radiation as well! Many detoxification natural remedies which were used in the past, The pharma's only made ciinthesized copies of what allready works!

  • man....bummer, that sucks

  • Maybe this is the reason for the FEMA coffins.

  • Nice links....and you didn't even have to chew my ass this time. But this was my absolute first thought when I heard it was stuck in orbit. Being a fireman in the air force, one of the first things we were taught was just how lethal hydrazine is. I have my bugout bag ready to go, just glad this "crazy conspiracy theorist" had the idea to buy a few Israeli gas masks for myself and family.

  • @ThePapabear27 Someone definitely doesn't want Russians in Mars. Though, whoever busted their spacecrafts, should have deactivated it in outer space, not in Earth's orbit. Better they fire a missile in that thing before it falls. Unless, of course, is part of their plan. Go figure out what's gonna happen if that shit crash into Iran...

  • @undercoveralien You're right. If the goal was keep them from Mars there would be no need to sabotage it in our orbit. It could have been done on the ground or in space far from Earth. The only thing that makes sense to me is they want this to fall back to Earth. Create a massive hydrazine cloud that can be carried by the jet stream. Problem, Reaction, Solution. It'll kill billions along the way, give TPTB plausible deniability and a reason to use the seed vaults.

  • @ThePapabear27 The threat is not only the toxic fuel. Don't forget that Phobos-Grunt is loaded with anthrax and other bacteria, that possibly suffered mutation in microgravity and are way more lethal now. Though you are totally right about the plausible deniability. Lets see how it develops. This spacecraft surely is being monitored by non-human intelligences... Lets see what happens.

  • @undercoveralien I sure hope this non-human intelligence is benevolent, this could be a global killer.

    Never heard about bugout bags until now, I will have a couple ready before weeks end...anything that I can put in it if this happens our do I just bend over and kiss my own ass goodbye? Doesn't seem like any antibiotic is going to helpful if this does happen

  • 1st...yeah

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