WHY DID RON PAUL LOSE THE PRIMARY ELECTIONS ?

[thebigconsultant]

Easy. Voting machines don't allow Freedom (tm)

[mousepd]

Here in the Louisiana Republican Presidential Primary, when it became apparent that Ron Paul was going to gather more Delegates and win the La. Primary, the GOP extended deadlines, disqualified Delegates and basically changed the rules. They did this in the Nevada Primary as well. And as with recent Christie Odonnell win, Karl Rove and the elite GOP are at it again. Trying to control our so called " free elections". But this time, thanks to the massive Tea Party support, the Elites are losing c

[The10man1]

@mousepd Good!!

[HSUniversal]

Because of the very basis of the primary elections. Our electoral colleges work in such different ways than the simple "choose your vote". He lost because a person like him is what the world needs to get to such a good vibration, through truth and justice, through love and harmony but that is not part of the plan. His presidency is not part of the plan. It's like seeing a rose in the middle of the desert. He is the rose, but the desert won't allow it.

[Animeabe]

Ron Paul lost because Americans are stupid. We base our descesions off of what the TV tells us. We also have a two party system that works like a team sport. Once people pick a team its hard for them to switch because they beleive that its the party they are voting for instead of the person. Basically most Americans are ill-informed or un-motivated to look for answers. Also our major media works for their owners intrests instead of delivering unbaised news. Its controlled.. just like us.

[ArcanineKing]

Oh, and by the way, Osama did not attack us.

It was all a conspiracy. Yes, a conspiracy, of corrupt corporate greedy fuckers who paid the government to do an act of terrorism with military precision.

We're not that stupid. The pentagon crash never occured, it was a bomb that set it off, and the wreckage of the plane was too damn small to be any kind of jet airliner, and the pentagon was left intact, leaving the plane to be evaporized... are you serious?

Planes do not dissapear out of thin air!

[nilo723]

Osama bin laden is just a CIA pawn..The govt wanted get stuck in iraq to secure its oil reserves..look at the amount spent on military bases there..now the iraqi oil would remain privatised for a long long time..

[barccy]

I still don't buy damatt08's explanation of suicide bombing being motivated by selfishness, terrorism not having a primarily socio-political goal, and end justifies means philosophy.

[barccy]

Bin Laden provides aid to Palestinian militant groups. Therefore he has as much right by that requisite.

Bin Laden helped the Taliban. We blew the Taliban up. Therefore Bin Laden has a higher claim to Afghanistan.

[damatt08]

palestinian militant groups that target civilians nearly exclusively.

and the taliban that restricted rights excesively. women werent even aloud to go to school.

the taliban, and al qaeda, and bin laden, and the palestinian militant groups are terrorists, therefore they dont have a claim to anything

[barccy]

Israeli govt. illegally confiscated land never allotted to it, destroys property and kills dozens of civilians just to get a few terrorists.

If the Amount of good done is proper justification for intervention, then our aid to the Israeli govt. isn't much more of a right.

[damatt08]

ah. right. of course.

even though israel is smaller now then it was when it was created.

and even though its been attacked many many times by foriegn nations and terrorist groups.

and that the "civilians" killed were only killed because either the terrorists hid missiles in neighborhoods, or that the civilians were very close to the terrorist luanchers. getting hit with shrapnel.

not israels fault

[barccy]

Dude, it's borders have expanded since creation.

So if a terrorist is beside me, disregard my wishes against it? I deserve to die because of it?

How are the deaths resulting from chucking a missile into the middle of a heavily populated city of innocent civilians not the fault of the people who launch/ fire it?

[damatt08]

its borders expanded after being attacked by other nations

it was attacked by EVERY nation bordering it (and several past its borders such as Iraq) and won those wars and of course took some territory to build a buffer zone. israel didnt start that

the missile isnt just "chucked" like the terrorists ones are. Israel uses expensive, accurate missiles to pinpoint the exact location of the luanch and take it out. the terrorists use cheap missiles that they randomly lob into cities to hit whatever

[barccy]

bravo

[barccy]

What then creates and inspires terrorists?

[damatt08]

the same thing that creates and inspires criminals (terrorists are simply effective criminals)

jealousy. a want for power. hate

[barccy]

The criminal preys upon the individual for their own benefit. = selfish

The terrorist attempts to change policy by attacking groups, peoples, and governments, often expecting martyrdom to further an ideal. = "selfless"

There must be some cause they think is righteous. Even erroneous ones motivate the misguided to death and murder. What is theirs?

[damatt08]

wrong. terrorists are just as self centered as criminals. maybe not the individual "foot soldiers" of the terrorist groups, but the leader that set the tactics.

why else would over 98% of the terrorist attacks in Iraq be against civilian targets?

why else would 9-11 have been more against unknowing civilians then against military targets?

at least israel does what it can to MINIMIZE civilian casualties, while terrorists do what they can to MAXIMIZE them

[barccy]

What motivates the average terrorist?

Why are they?

Why would they?

Yes, you already said that. That's not what I'm asking.

[damatt08]

alot of different things

money, religion, hate, boredom, adventure, they are easily influenced by the leaders, they get told things by terrorist leaders that motivate them to want to fight against a certain group

[barccy]

I've never known someone to knowingly and willingly give their life for those reasons.

Terrorists aren't the only ones swayed by leaders into considering taking actions they may not normally, which is exactly why the Ron Paul crowd fears the direction our nation's government is taking.

[damatt08]

well then you need to learn more. plenty of people give their lives for hate, religion, and money.

just because a group of violent people want something doesnt mean we should always cower into just giving them what they want.

i mean maybe on the playground if your the midget that get picked on you do, but if your the varsity linebacker, you dont have to put up with people telling you who you can and cant help

[barccy]

Name some.

You think that's what I'm saying?

I'm saying if the Linebacker beats the midget and takes its stuff, the midget is justified in retaliation.

[damatt08]

the thing is the midget took the stuff BEFORE the linebacker did anything. we didnt invade until after 9 11

[barccy]

We were assisting Bin Laden's ilk in fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80's.

We were allying with saddam in the 70's helping him against iran, and imposed sanctions on iraq in the 90's

[damatt08]

but listen to what you say- we HELPED bin laden. why would he later turn on us? selfishness, and a want for power.

we helped Saddam because we wanted neither Iraq or Iran to win that war.

we imposed sanctions because Saddam had already tried expanding his borders and taking Kuwait, and he looked like he would do it again.

even then we only blocked him from buying lots of weapons, shouldnt have lead to problems like the ones he created out of it

[barccy]

How does abandoning wealth and living as a guerrilla fighter in a cave selfish?

[damatt08]

he didnt abandon wealth, he still had it.

but he traded his life of luxury for a life of power. he simple traded lazy life in palaces for a life (he still gets anything he wants object wise) where people do whatever he says.

hes not fighting for freedom,hes not fighting for religion, hes fighting for power

[barccy]

Why not? What business do we have encouraging wars, destruction, and such in other peoples' lands?

[damatt08]

we arent encouraging it. in fact we do what we can to facilitate peace talks (for instance hosting members of both groups at Camp David to get peace agrements)

[barccy]

What do they gain?

[damatt08]

money, fame, they get told they get 42 virgins in heaven after suicide attacks, so that to.

or for the leaders, lots of money, and power

[barccy]

The events of September 11 are but a reaction to the continuous injustice and oppression being practised against our sons in Palestine, Iraq, Somalia, Southern Sudan and in other places like Kashmir and Assam. It is incumbent on the whole Islamic nation Ummah to awaken people from their sleep and rush to devise a solution to this disastrous problem that faces mankind today.

[damatt08]

guess whos oppressing you in iraq? other muslims.

in somali? other muslims

in palestine? its israels territory

in southern sudan? other muslims

kashmir and assam? hindus and other muslims

notice NONE of those are Americans?

[barccy]

Notice America was involved in all those?

[damatt08]

we havent gone into the sudan...

we went into somalia to protect food shipments to the starving population when the militants were using hunger as a weapon.

america simply gives money to israel, the fued between palestine and israel isnt our doing

kashmir and assam the US wasnt involved

and in Iraq we only went in to remove a dictator that was killing iraqi civilians, and we only devastated your military the first time after you took kuwait

[barccy]

Those who condemned these operations looked at them in isolation and failed to connect them to past events, and did not look at the causes that produced this result. And some did look at them, but did not analyze and approach it from a legal and rational perspective -- they saw America and the media criticizing these events, and they stood up with them in criticism.

[barccy]

Their example is like the story of the wolf that saw a newborn lamb, 'are you the one who dirtied the water last year?'. The lamb replies,'it was not me.' 'It WAS you', the wolf said. The lamb replied, 'I was only born this year.' The wolf said, 'it must have been your mother,' and ate the lamb! And what could the poor mother do, when she saw her son between the teeth of the wolf, but in the passion of motherhood, butted the wolf.

[damatt08]

that has nothing to do with this.

we didnt go into iraq and say hey Saddam did your dad do something bad? we knew he did stuff so we took him out.

we didnt go in there hoping that Iraqis would die. we did our best to get them to surrender without fighting (most did) and then lo and behold- islamic fighters came in, and THAT is when civilians started dying. coincidence? nope

[barccy]

I know we aren't evil empire trying to kill people, but I don't think it's right.

Dude, the majority of Insurgents are themselves Iraqi civilians, so yes, the us liberated iraq and that's when civilians started dieing, no coincidence there.

[damatt08]

wrong. you dont know at ALL

my platoon took part in the 2nd battle of fallujah, and the IDs we got off of over 90% of the bodies were foriegn IDs.

they iraqi civilians arent the ones doing most of the fighting, they do an extremely small percentage of it. they mainly aim at attacking their iraqi rivals.

but no, the US invaded and then there wasnt civilians being killed for a while. yeah some iraqis choose to loot, but there werent attacks. then insurgents come later, and then there are

[ArcanineKing]

Uh... ever realize those were not 'talibans' but freedom fighters? After your military put Hussein out of power, there was hell breaking loose all over. It was on the news, and some of the "insurgents" as you call them, were in fact, iraqi civilians. I do not know where you get "IDing" hostiles from civilians. To you, civilians are unarmed targets, and hostiles are armed targets.

Better question, how were you able to ID foreign people who are in hiding all the time? That just makes no sense.

[TheStudentTeacher]

yet we cant tame American streets.

[barccy]

what?

[barccy]

The wolf was not much affected, and shouted out,"look at this terrorist!" The parrots joined in, repeating what the wolf said, and saying, 'we say the ewe butt the wolf.' Where were you when the wolf ate the son of this sheep?

[damatt08]

america didnt come in and eat the sons of iraq

we didnt do anything to chechnya

we didnt do anything to somalia (except give it food)

we didnt do anything to afghanistan (except give it money)

[barccy]

Terrorising you, while you are carrying arms on our land, is a legitimate and morally demanded duty. It is a legitimate right well known to all humans and other creatures. Your example and our example is like a snake which entered into a house of a man and got killed by him. The coward is the one who lets you walk, while carrying arms, freely on his land and provides you with peace and security.

[damatt08]

thats not a blanket statement though.

if we go into provide aid why the hell would you shoot us? were there to help.

you dont realize that if you stop killing each other the US will leave.

however the islamic insurgents will stay even if you stop shooting each other, they are there only to aquire power

[bobbycatacutan]

ron paul was the most popular person on youtube. he had 50 k subs back in the day before barack obama only had like what 20 k subs. even with his support from all the black people, now he has 100k. my question is how the fuck did he lose to mc cain. at the time mc cain only had 5 k subs comapared to ron pauls say 50k? like seriously.... this thing is rigged

[damatt08]

because youtube isnt the same as voting? because the people that are on youtube arent voting? because people that dont get on youtube do vote.

and because ron paul was an idiot

[barccy]

"because ron paul was an idiot "

Why do you say that?

[damatt08]

because he said that the world wars were our fault?

and we cant allow OTHER people to determine our foriegn policy. we cant say ohh your going to bomb us if we help another nation? well then we wont help.

thats called showing weakness, and you cant do that in todays world

[barccy]

Cite your source on that, and I'll talk.

Other people should have no say in how we treat them?

[damatt08]

it was him saying it, in an interview with some comedian, bill maher i think, though not sure.

but were not treating them. bin laden is all mad that we help israel. but bin laden was in afghanistan, and was born in saudi arabia. nothing to do with Israel. he doesnt control Israel, nor should he have a say in whether or not we help Israel, especially not with suicide attacks on civilian populations

[barccy]

I couldn't find it.

What more right do Americans on this side of the Atlantic have to intervention than Bin Laden does?

[damatt08]

because we give money to israel.

he wants to blow up israel

israel asks for our help

bin laden just wants to blow up israel

[barccy]

Ronald Reagan was a pussy then.

[alaskaproduction]

Ron Paul is telling the truth. I havent seen yet anybody who tells the truth and become popular. Polititians are nasty liers. America gets what it deserves, soon america will be suffering its stupidity. I am an american by the way. People WAKE UP, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! If you too lazy to vote, why you expect government to work for you?

[listlesssleeper]

It's stupid to only be able to pick 1 or 2 on the ballot; that's the bull that TV tells you. Ron Paul probably won, but who's going to check or prove otherwise? If there's no money to be made, you just can't win.

[damatt08]

ron paul probably won, are you kidding? most people outside the crazy youtube and facebook crowd, or political scientists, dont even know who ron paul is

[barccy]

which is why he lost.

[comendgetit]

Most Common Response to Ron Paul: Who is that?

[queenievicky121]

im thinking its just b/c the american people rely to much on thier gov support no one at my worked liked him and they scolded me for it sooo he probably didnt win it. AMERICA gets what it deserves

[4kab123]

Voting irregularities, exclusion from main media debates, inaccurate reporting/non- reporting Ron Paul's election results, exclusion from the ballot in some precincts.

He probably did win if all who supported his ideas had access to voting and been fairly counted.

Eg if you're from New York, and didn't register as Republican by a certain date, you couldn't vote in the primary. Not everyone is up on the regulations of the voting process. Lots of Ron Paul supporters are young/first-time voters.

[euro944t]

And the global corporations currently earning superprofits from this social experiment are unlikely to be content if the lucrative new market remains confined to cities such as Hong Kong. Like everything else assembled in China with American parts, Police State 2.0 is ready for export to a neighborhood near you.

[euro944t]

Remember how we've always been told that free markets and free people go hand in hand? That was a lie. It turns out that the most efficient delivery system for capitalism is actually a communist-style police state, fortressed with American "homeland security" technologies, pumped up with "war on terror" rhetoric.

[euro944t]

Because Dr. Paul dumped his core, which was not the exciting Federal Reserve reformist that came along late in game and ran off truthers who started the entire freedom movement.

Mr. Paul,

What good is sound monetary if we are being attacked and killed on mass scale by globalist Luciferians in love with a NWO soon to be run by "The One" One land, one people, one ruler is fascism or corporate rule.

Capitalism has no use for religion, especially Christians.

[voteDRNO]

In NAVADA TEXAS & VIRGINIA the votes of the members of the Republican Party to elect delegates were not counted delegates were assigned. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

[rgaskey]

The art of magic is to conceal the truth, and most people like magicians because they apparently like to be fooled. Ron Paul told the truth, exposed the tricks and came very close to ruining the entertainment.

[truindep]

i put win in quotes because in many ways i believe he has won. his message has inspired ppl across the country, not just to vote or campaign or even donate to him, but rather to wake up and pay attention to what is going on in the government, what is wrong with it, and to fight to repair it. that's an amazing coup.

[truindep]

dr.paul didn't "win" for a number of reasons. 1. he's too smart 2. he's too honest 3. he has integrity 4. he's consistent 5. he makes his decisions based on logic&the constitution 6. msm blackout 7. voter fraud...&on&on.

[boots920]

Black box voting machines, no audit of the vote available. Doesn't look like enough people are outraged enough.

No paper ballot = no democracy

[RationalLiberty]

i agree with libertyrocks08,

The MSM gave him a whole blackout, with a few exceptions. But when they did include him they just gave him ridicule and didnt talk about the issues. Ill actually make a video response to this. I think you raise a good point that needs to be answered. and it cant be answered in a comment.

[ChichiriMuyo]

Winning debates and collecting donations does not equate to winning primaries or elections. I wish it did. I wish Ron Paul were the Republican candidate, but what he evokes is devotion in a time when the masses already think they know best.

[audiogrinder]

Simple answer, Paul did win! The majority of the population have been brainwashed into thinking he didn't stand a chance! Sorry to break the news to you! LibertyRock is correct! Do your homework and trust yourself, not the media! They are the biggest liars since the creation of the world! OPEN YOUR EYES!

[humbleguy2]

because mr paul was a to hard core and real

i liked him also iwanted a obama/ronpaul vs macain match but 4 some reason reps anit want him but i hope obama/prez -ronpaul/vp happends

[LIBERTYROCKS08]

The real reason is because the bullshit MS Media .....and if the word had gotton out.....then they would have used the bogus voting machines!