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  • She just about blew my computer's speakers!

  • Is it true the MiG 23 is as good as an F16?

  • @dafty97 i think u mean MIG 29. i heard some stories mig 29 was beating f16 but idk if i need to believe.

  • @SMJeOma Yes i heard that too. The MiG 29 is compared alot to the F16. But im sure i read somewhere that when they tested the MiG 23 it also turned out be as good as an F16. I might be wrong be though!

    Thanks for your reply

  • @dafty97 About maneuverability, I doubt it. About top speed and ceiling, sure. Also, much more stable than the F-16 aerodynamically. The 23 requires less training than the 16.

  • @dafty97 not really, the Iraqi air force was massacred by the Iranians when they used this shit plane, also the jew air force massacred the Syrians when they used this plane

    they ONLY success was against South African Mirage F1 and that was a draw because the south africans where running out of supplies because of the embargo

  • @dafty97 The latest version of MiG-23MLD with Soviet pilots was equal or even better to the early version of F-16A with Pakistani pilots over skies of the Afghanistan.

  • @dafty97 No. The Mig 23 is comparable to the F-4 Phantom.

  • @dafty97 Good is a relative term. Like BitnikGr mentioned, a comparison between a MiG-23 and an F-16A is different than a MiG-23 and an F-16CJ. The Flogger was designed as an interceptor (much like the F-104) while the F-16 was a clear weather dogfighter. Both have evolved during their lives but their roots still determine how "multi" their roles can be.

  • @SemperApollo But would an aviation expert say the MiG 23 is a good plane its self or not? To be honest it looks ugly and heavy, but i do realise you cant judge a book by its cover.

    I bought a dvd called Wings of the Red Star which stated that the Soviets never built a plane that was anything less than perfect for what it was designed for.

  • @dafty97

    depends on which MiG-23 against which F-16.

    Both were produced in uncountable variants over decades, and exported widely, with each client purchasing different capabilities.

    A figher aircraft is a system (containing several subsystems, the most important of them being the pilot) within a system - the national anti-aircraft defense, including GCI, AWACS, other aircraft, SAM, etc.

  • @dafty97

    1st example: US F-16 (late production, fully equipped) should be vastly superior to Iraqi MiG-23 (export versions with downgraded avionics and equipment), however during the 1991 Gulf War both were equally unable to score an air-to-air-victory, though not for the lack of trying: for instance, USAF F-16 fired 36 Sidewinders, without scoring a hit!

  • @dafty97

    2nd example: Soviet MiG-23 (late production, fully equipped) should have an edge over Pakistani F-16, but several of them were shot down during the Soviet Afghanistan war, after straying into Pakistani airspace.

  • This is up for sale, I wish I had the money to buy it...

  • tovariš gorbačov nasvidanja

  • Perfectly on the yellow line ... NOT..

  • What a beauty!

  • omg that's aircraft look small .

  • It's even better seeing one of these being shot down. 

  • lets not forget about the only LADA driving in NE Pilly! :)

  • suberb fighter .... our country had the honor to have 95 of these 20years ago now nothing is left ..... why NATO is doing that fucking stuff

  • @Wolfgamer94 no one?! what have they done with them?

  • @thirdromeprivate cuz NATO intendet to destroy almost all USSR millitary stuff we have especially this one cuz MIG23 can carry nukes and thats a long story

  • @Wolfgamer94 The bigger reason NATO wants to destroy old MiG's and Soviet-era weapons is because such weapons are the only things that can be acquired on the black market to fight genocidal imperialism.

    The NWO is making its move to destroy the nation-states and throw the masses into chaos so they can be totally enslaved. If advanced Soviet-era weapons could be bought on the black market, then the masses might be able to mount a guerrilla war against the billionaires and destroy their mansions.

  • The old crocodile! Amazing!

  • I saw the J-17 a joint production by Pakistan and China, an all purpose, all weather medium role aircraft. It was displayed on the pakistan national day and has been aadvanced sold to 6 countries already-it featured in the UK Farnborough sho as well.

  • nice

  • lol i always wanted to see a mig-25 foxbat flying topspeed right above the audience at an airshow

  • i never cared about american planes being better or not than a mig. I just love mig's cause they have such a unique look. I love them

  • 0:54 VTEC just kicked in yo

  • @intertr0ns Hahahahaahahah

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  • Wow my hair have all just stood up 0.o That noise is sooooooooo...~

  • the sound of it is just orgasmic.... my ears are in heaven lol

  • I think the MiG 21 is the best looking plane in the world.

  • Good plane shame it isnt used much

  • jet fighters are on of the most incredible machines ever developed

  • if you want to know more about what us pilots thought about the 23 , look up excerps from the book "red eagles" on the google book search. and browse through! very interesting a real dangerous ship by all accounts if not treated right.

  • Excellent video with good sound, What an awesome plane!

  • Man i love afterburner of this plane xDDDD

  • Ah the Mig-23....NATO callsign...The Drone.....LOL!!

  • I like the red star on the tail.

    paint it in camo scheme and you can go around playing pranks on NATO pilots ;)

  • Mmmmmm................Lovely beast.

  • Beautiful!! Really nice footage and amazing plane!

  • Well its official....this isn't the only one flying in the US...soon there will be another a Bulgarian MiG-23UB located right now at the Cold War Air Museum in Lancaster Texas. But yes this is a hell of a warmachine and very Russian in every way :)

  • hermoso

  • great vid, beautiful plane!!!

  • That huge Turmanski afterburner is very impressive...I bet the pilot keeps a close eye on his fuel status on that aircraft.

  • When the afterburner ignites you can see the aircraft literally being punched forward!

    It's said that it can go as fast as 900kts at very low altitudes and be the fastest single engine fighter, which is unbelievable for it's age...!

    Superb vid of this aircraft!

  • An F-4 rival. An extreme set of all the highest technologies of it's time like an F-4 and same poor combat record.

  • one big mistake: no one sitting on the backseat^^

  • backseat is for dropping bombs on America. No need for that lately, America is dropping bombs on itself.

  • MiG29MOVT, you dont need one, really. I have never flown a fighter, and probley never will, but plenty of bombers have made it good without a backseater.

  • I mean it's a waste of space some people would pay tons of money to fly with =)

  • Excellent video! Superb aircraft for its time.

  • fucken badass

  • perfect

  • There Japanese also had some KI-43 "Oscars" in the theater. Forgot about those.....

  • HalcyonSkies, the AVG did not take on "Zeroes" as they were Japanese Navy fighters. The Japanese Army fighters in use over China/Burma were mostly the Nakajima KI-27 "Nate" and possibly a few Mitsubishi A5M4 "Claude" aircraft. The Claude was a predecessor to the Zero but was not a Zero.

  • The MiG-23 can actually defeat the MiG-29. I read that MiG-23s were used as aggressor aircraft in testing against the Fulcrum, and while the pilots of the Fulcrums were relatively new pilots, and the Flogger pilots were veterans, it's still something that this "out of date" jet can defeat a more modern fighter. They used hit and run tactics, similar to how AVG(Flying Tigers) P-40 Warhawks took on the more nimble Japanese Zeroes over China in WW2.

  • Beautiful airplane.

  • maybe out of date on paper but the flogger can still kick it today, look at the canberra, that was technically "dated" when it retired but it stayed in service for so long for a good reason, same applies to this.

    n theres nothing dated about the noise this fucker makes!

  • nice vid

  • Wednesday, February 25, 2004 (Gwalior):

    India and America today finished a joint Air Force exercise in Gwalior in, which the top pilots from the two countries matched their skills against each other.

    While the all-powerful US Air Force had an easy run in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Indian top guns amazingly shot them out of the sky.

  • Well, in Iraq or Afganistan USAF didn´t have any opponent....

  • Last Russian ammo supply to Iraq was in 1973

    Most Iraq and Afghanistan have are US ammo and technologies from Taliban

    When Taliban was best friend of US

  • Well consider this - Afganistan didn´t have any fighter jets and Iraqi´s Fulcrums an Fishbeds never left their bases. USAF didn´t have opponent in those wars.

  • yep

    + US had no fly zone for Iraq

  • You are aware of the restrictions put upon the F-15 pilots that participated in this exercise, right?

    The Indians came to the US for Red Flag, they did not do nearly as well.

  • Just look on internet it was more exercise

    with def countries outcome is same

    Maybe that why F-22 is cancelled

  • Mig with Phazotron (Spear) airborne radar, which is capable of simultaneously tracking 8 targets and engage 2 of the 8 target tracked ,missile such as Vympel R-27. Russian advertise has claimed that this version is equivalent to early F-16. It performed well against F-15 and F-16s of the USAF during Indo-US joint air exercises, surprising American pilots

    Indian pilots claimed the "kill ratio" was 4:1 in their favour

  • boooo

  • wonderful!

  • Man listen to that afterburner kick in!

    Whoa! That sounds sooo nice!

  • Cheap F-111 copy.

  • no no dude f111 has to engines and is mutch bigger and on the f111 the pilot and the rio is sitting side by side

  • I know, man, I was just trying to be funny. I used to load bombs on F-111's. I was only making comparison to the swing-wings!

  • omg lucky you man i whanted to join the swedish military and load weopenery on planes but i gut somthing that i like cupoles i dont know what its is but is like muscle moves but i dont whant it to moves so i gut sooo sad so i cant take flight cert or do somthing i whanted 4 ever fly plains how is it to be a weapon officer on the ground?

  • I loved every minute of it. I went to Saudi Arabia during Desert Storm and loaded 352,500 lbs. of live munitions in a month and a half. We loved it because, there's no more training. Time for the real deal. When the jets came back empty, that was real satisfaction. We loved our jobs.

  • wow did it load so much those the load internely or outside on hardpoints did you even have the luck to seat in one or?

  • It was all external. I worked on the"F" models. The internal bay was used to seat the Pavetac system. The lazer emitted for LGB's. As for flying in one, no, I never got that lucky. That was an honor rarly given to ground crews.

  • ooo those guys/girls that have that honor to sit in a f11 lucky personel i hope truly i som day get to sit in a jet fighter

  • If you truly want it bad enough, my friend, anything is possible. Unfortunatly, you won't fly an F-111. They're all retired to the boneyard, except the Aussies still fly a few of them, but they're on their way out, too. Really was a great jet. Look on my home page and see the F-111 videos I've got there, and also see the weapons guys doing what I used to do. Pretty cool stuff. I wish you the best of luck, my friend! Go out and chase your dreams, man!

  • You mentioned "Rio" in one of your messages before. That's a Navy name. In the Air Force, the weapons systems officer on an F-111 is called the WSO- pronounced "wizzo." See ya.

  • hihi aaaa my bad ;-) well i am going to see that i can sit in a fighter jet som day.

  • u dont neccesarily have to be a pilot to fly one, if ur rich enough pay 10000 USD and you could have a ride in a latest fighter of your choice like the Mig 29 or Sukhoi 30

  • Hear that afterburner kick in !Do not underestimate the russians.

  • An impressive POS.

  • Superb sound...

  • The Cold War Air Museum at Lancaster Municipal airport in Texas is finishing putting together a Mig 23. It will be flying this summer.

  • Ah..the great Mig-23

    1. Eaten alive by the entire IAF over the Bakaa Valley

    2. Retired at about the same time as the much older Mig-21

    3. Redesigned into the ground attack Mig-27 because it failed as a fighter

    4. Test flown at the Nellis Test Range in Nevada by the USAF. Pilots commented it was a visious aircraft to fly...bordering on unsafe if pushed to the limit

    For me,hearing the 24,500 lbs of the J-75 in the F-106 at take-off is unforgetable

    Although I'm hearing stories about the F-35!

  • eaten alive by IAF lol

    a syrian called "al masri"  pilote in mig 23 has shot down 2 IAF F4 phantome .

    in 1982 to IAF A 4 sky hawk had been downed by 2 syrian mig 23

    the only victory's against mig 23 is due to the new IAF f15 in this time cuz the sky hawk and the f4 was inferiore to mig 23..

  • DragonlordXV:perhaps you are correct about the 2 F-4's and an A-4 Skyhawk being shot down. However,The original A-4 was ordered in 1952 and the first F-4 flew first in the late 1950's. More importantly, both aircraft are primary attack aircraft for the IAF (bomb trucks) not for pure dogfighting.The Mig-23 was first seen in 1967 and although defined as a strike fighter..can only carry 2000kg of weapons! To me it compared well with the retired USAF F-105, a fast aircraft that cannot dogfight.

  • The MiG-23 never failed as a fighter, the MiG-27 was a paralell project. The MiG-23MLD was the latest and last version, with upgraded radar, more poverful engine, redesigned airframe and smaller weight.

  • Pilots flying it out of the Nellis Test range were,WRONG?

    Look for many years the USAF gave the Mig 23 Flogger a lot of respect.

    I believe they even referred to it as the "poor man's" F4 Phantom,a pretty good compliment back in the 1970's. However upon receiving a black market Mig 23 to give our pilots authentic training over Nevada,the report card on this aircraft from Aggressor Sq. pilots was not good. They didn't even feel safe flying it.

    The article was in Air Force Mag. a few years ago.

  • Yes I know it, but the USAF MiG-23 was an egyiptian MiG-23M Flogger-E with R-27F2M engine and MiG-21bis radar.

    The two seater UB version used this engine, it less poverful than the MF version R-29BD-300 and ML/MLA/MLD version R-35-300. The R-35-300's characteristic was really impressive except the specific fuel consuption.

  • Kolbola, to be honest I have never physicially seen a MiG-23, just a lot of reading about it.. I would have figured that Egypt would have received better aircraft than "inferior" castrated models considering they were in active combat against the IAF. It doesn't make sense to me on one hand to provide the services of MiG-25R's to Egypt and then back it up with second-rate equip. ? Again, based on the testimony of Agressor Squadron pilots, Lets hope this guy in Del. didn't get an "export" model.

  • Nice shooting Chris. I wish I'd have gotten the taxi-in! See you around this year.

  • I love those f 22!

  • Jet engine heaven! Gotta love the MiG 23. Great audio in this clip. 5 stars.

  • daamn, that noise!

  • Love it , great aircraft .

  • wonderful!!

  • Hell yes. Awesome vid plus no music to cover up the sound. The boom of the afterburner kicking in is all the music I need.

    I'm American, and I've always thought the Mig-23 is beautiful. Unfortunately, we don't get to see foreign (especially Russian) aircraft that much. All you guys from other countries need to upload more vids! Preferably without music.

  • @hectiky Dude.. are you kidding? You must not go to air shows, man. We got LOTS and LOTS of foreign aircraft here! Not flamin' or nothing. Just one MiG fan to another. At my home field, we have 2 CJ-6A's and an L-39.

    North America is the place to be to see awesome warbirds. Australia is a pretty close second, from what I've heard.

  • @hectiky Here in Nevada they use Mig-29 and Mig-35's for training. it was alarming at first! but then the F-22's stationed out here ease the nerves ;D

  • @vai2iant how do you know it is mig35?

  • @vai2iant The US does not have any MIG-35 they have some some MIG-29S but the MIG-35 was only recently revealed and so far it is a Russian only jet until it is exported to some of its Custoomers

  • AMAZING AIRCRAFT SO LOUD AND SO FAST

  • thats why f 16 pilots that flew it said it completely out accelerated the f 16 and f 18. Not as good, but def a rocket.

  • In some cases, the good old fashioned is better than the present

  • thats obviouly some bull shit you wrote down. mig 23s had small wings and lacked manuverability in dog fighting and had weak radars and the only reason some countries but those because it was 3 million dollars compared to f-16 which was 16 million at that time. thats it.

  • It's meant to be an interceptor, not a fighter, so that comes naturally. ;)

  • Nice afterburner trail

  • that was one a hell a aircraft!! nice video!!

  • I personally love this aircraft . But my favorite is MIG-25. Truly one of a kind.

  • lol just think you been shot as a spy 10 years ago...for taking that film and posting on a Uk site......

  • Really? In 1998 you'd be considered a spy for this?

  • anyone can tell me something about 2 mig 23 black painted in florida?

  • maybe a decent plane,but just below par to the f-14

  • heheh :) its called the FLOGGER cos it FLOGS TOMCATS !! hehe :)

  • Ha yeah that'll be the day. You got that backwards I'm afraid.

    "Anytime, Baby!!"

  • Fack off America

  • Here in Hungary, when a journalist in the late eighties went to made a small report from our MiG-23s, he went to the engine test site. When they started to check the afterburner regime, he dropped his camera and started run, because he thought, it is an explosion. Large flame, huge sound.

  • the takeoff part of the mig 23 is even louder than a retarded screamer

  • especially since its engines where designed for power, unlike airliner engines.

  • damn that intense sound and rush makes me want to fly one of those mig 23

  • you can buy some from former USSR states, like romania, or importer of Russian stuff.

  • That takeoff certainly sounds super loud; I'd estimate around 175 decibels or so. Nothing to be near without earplugs/earmuffs.

  • This is really unique absolutely great footage.

  • i like f117 and mig 23

  • Dumbass yankie, captainfaggot...

  • Sorry if I offended you CrazyFinn. That wasn't my intention. I was only expressing my dislike for the Mig 23. Wasn't trying to offend anyone in particular. Sorry.

  • Well the Mig-23 would kick the F-111's ass..and the F-111 was originally designed as a fighter..but was kept out of this role cause it was too heavy:-P

  • Well Triggerhappy27, I just don't like how the Russian's copied so many planes like this Mig, they copied the concorde, they copied the B-1 bomber with the Tu-160 (although they did a great job). So I'm pissed off about that. But their mig 29's and Su-27 and above are AMAZING planes. Such beauty.

  • True, i agree with you..especially with their planes designed in the 60/70's. In the 80's though they came up with the Mig-29/Su-27..and they are real good planes..and maneuverable! During an exercise with Su-30Mki's from India...the air force F-15 pilots shit their pants:-P

  • super machine :)

  • Dont forget that soviet era planes were made in large numbers, the importent thing was that it could shoot and fly.They should come in large quantity, quantity vs quality. Large quantity= quality = meny deaths to win a fight.

    They were following lenins ide, quantity makes quality :-/

  • カッコいい!!

    トムキャットよりも遙かにカッコイイ!!

  • why is there a Russian plane in america?

  • russian need the cash and sold it to a rich american dude and since no american 60s to 80s type of jets available or allowed to be sold to civilians so he have to satisfied him self with russian made toys

  • Please can anyone tell me where and when this footage was taken?

    Putting aircraft type differences and qualities aside, this video is absolutely fantastic! The sound gives the perfect feeling of how powerful the MiG-23 take off is and I thank whoever uploaded it. I am in the RAF and have been to bases all over the world and I appreciate, respect and enjoy seeing this sinister looking piece of hardware as much as I do a brand new Typhoon.

  • it says in the description next to the video ;)

  • and to backup johnyics...... mig-23 has fat nose like f14 and f15....mig-27 has skinny nose.

  • the A-10 is a shit ton better

  • but not available for a rich dude to purchase.

  • this post is for the yank who states and believes too that in da video it's a mig 27.

    this is definitely a mig 23 UB (UB because is a double-seatter jet).

    i'll miss da great shape of dis great plane.

    until 2010 i can see da mig 21, after that, maybe a western...

  • when i see this video i feel the adrenaline in my body.those engines are definitely "dangerous", in the positive way...i am romanian and i've seen some birds like this(and mig21, 29etc) live, and i tell you, i could feel the power in the sound!!!it's a bad plane!!i feel sorry that my country gived up the 23 and 29 too for buying some european shit like gripen or typhoon, or second-hand f16. I think russian jets are definitely superior to any other jets in the world. viva la russian teqnique))))

  • Great Aircraft...but no match for the F-14 in a dogfight.

  • The funny part is that USA and Russia don't fly anymore the F-14 and MiG-23

  • This was a great aircraft.The MiG-23MLD was produced between 1980 to 1985 actualy could out perform and defeat both the F16A and F18A at 3 times less the cost !!! The best for the money ! To bad today Russians have such issues.The SU27,SU30,SU32,SU35,MIG35 all crash and dont sell !!!

  • Funny, only the migs are known for issues. The SU 27 is the only based fighter jet (and the variants) that have the least amount of issues. The Mig 29 series on the other hand.....

    And they sell like hot cakes. Just look at the countries that operate them.

  • That thing goes mach 2.5... bloody hell thats fast... Well its supposed to anyway

  • Actually it reaches mach 2.35. i flew them for years

  • Cool plane and nice quality video, The Mig23 is a Classic Cold War fighter.

  • MiG-27...

  • It is not a Mig-27...

  • It is Mig-27

  • The Mig-27 came before the Su-25 and was like the Su-17. It had different intakes, avionics, could carry guided weapons and had more armor. It was a major upgrade to the Mig-23BN(ground attack Mig-23).

  • But as i know Mig 23 was air to air fighter and if you transform that kind of plane to ground attack plane you often get bad plane. Air to air aircrafts needs to be light ,fast and agile while air to ground aircrafts needs to have as much payload as can ,have a bigger fuel tank and be enough tough to search terrain and survive the shots from ground

  • we are talking about 2 different roles i just hope that 27 can match those roles without any huge problems as i think that every fighter jet should be used in role that he was made for,and i am sure that 23 was not made to be ground attack plane :P

  • Mig 27 has a downgraded engine, no air to air radar. and fixed air intakes. and with so many parts shared with the Mig-23 they were cheap to mass Produce and maintain.

  • very simular to an fb111

  • so bad ass when the burner kicks in

  • I love this place. i love the huge dorsal fin on it and the configuration for the undercarraige. she is absolutely gorgeous from all views.

  • The parts that seem ugly to me are those grille intakes. Plus the plane seems a bit too big in my mind, i like smaller aircraft because they are more easy to maneouver.

  • You must remember that this jet is relatively old.

  • Does this MiG 23 hav the original Tumanski R-29 (I think its the r-29!!!) engines or is it using the underpowered export Tumanski engines?