Everything has CONTEXT, when you want to know the "why", look at how events are connected to other ones, and ask "Cui bono?" Who benefits?
Although he's quite out there & I'm no fan, Icke's term "Problem, Reaction, Solution" is just a differently worded phrase used to describe what is a legitimately proven method used by Govt's to get what they want in situations & matters where it would otherwise be impossible to do so with the consent of the governed.
on Terrorism Hearings" where the Govt was doing all it could to slander and create fear about the Michigan Militia (And ALL Militia for that matter), who at that time they were doing everything they could to paint as the usual: racist, militant, extremist, violent, dangerous, etc., and they did their best to try and connect the OK City bombing with the militia, they were proven wrong but did a lot of damage. All the usual crap when they want to crush something that gets in their way. Everything
@cgordijn At first it seemed you had legitimate questions, then you sink back into the status quo mindset because this tiny partial doco didn't give you a "why", instead of searching out that why. Well it just so happens that right after this the federal Govt began cracking down on firearms and passing/trying to pass all sorts of firearms laws using this as justification. There would soon be a swarm of allegations and controversy in the media over the Militia, leading to the "Senate Subcommitte
hold on a second, assuming all of this is true. why would the american government want to kill all these people? is the american government just a bunch of sadists hell bent on killing people? all of this "proof" doesn't explain why they'ed want to do it. this whole thing is ridicules the narrator has no idea what shes talking about.
that was a pretty good documentary. but if the government is to blame, why does everyone blame the davidians for some of the stuff that occured in 1993?
I'll even praise the gullible people who support the gov actions because unlike the majority of sheeple, they at least took the time to watch this. Understanding Waco is the key to understanding 9-11 and other "terrorist" attacks.
this documentary is a lie! we love the US government! this was edited to make the ATF and government look bad. what about the pedophilia that was going on? why did they have weapons? you are aiding in terrorism. unfortunate that the kids died, but the adults had to be finished. this is home grown terrorism. this is why america hates hippies. they look for anything to knock america. get out of the country. america is, and will always be the greatest land. you hippies gotta go.. quick! U.S.A
@whitejoneswhitejones unfortunate that the kids died, but the adults had to be finished?? lol, home grown terrorism?? you just watched the video, who is being terrorised? I'm sorry if people in america actually think like this, it was a good run. I'm just happy I'm somewhere else watching it all go to shit. Try to think for yourself.
i remember this as it played out. the AFT made many mistakes. but it was announced ahead of time that the tunnel ,etc... (bunker not mentioned) was to be blocked or filled with dirt, smoke, etc... to prevent anyone leaving from anywhere aside from the planned exit.
Pity that too many people all over the world are so into the propaganda mass media says, rather than the actual facts and the truth. The Davidians whatever they really were, were martyred by the actions of a cruel and unjust government more concerned with selfish motives.
The first documentary film that was critical of the official reports was Waco: The Big Lie,[84] produced by Linda Thompson followed by Waco II: The Big Lie Continues.
The Linda Thompson videos were controversial and made a number of allegations, the most famous of which was footage of a tank with what appears to be light reflected from it; Thompson's narration claimed this was a flame-thrower attached to the tank.
Sorry, but at 7:29 the guy who jumps from the roof can be seen in interviews. He is a dividian who surrendered. If the narrator was acutally privy to any of the facts rather than just watching the video and making it up as she goes along then she would know this!!!!!
Okay, the ATF is wrong; they lost their funding. They and our gov't issoooooooooooooo stupid. I hope STUPID describes THESE ppl. Koresh never said he was God. I hope these ppl have the miserable life THEY deserve. All I know for sure is their funding has been cut. Quite rightfully so.
A new poll has said that 51% of Americans believe that the earth is 10,000 years old. With that level of ignorance it is plain to see how so many can be duped into believing whatever comes out of their "boob tubes" Those of us that are awake need to realize that we may be fighting this battle vastly out numbered. The truth shall set us free and love for all, including our enemies, is the answer. Peace and love be with you all
koresh burned it down not the atf, and koresh shot ppl in his church before shoting himself dead, know you facts. but yeah fuck the government there just as bad
what we've learned from this is do not fuck with Government. no matter who u r or who u think u r, they will take your ass down n burn it. the bright or dark part(i dont know) is that the US government is no the only government doing this kinda shit. less or more but they all do that.
America is a wicked and disqusting place. No matter how high your standard of living is, these scenes make it look like a hell hole. Tanks and helicopters bombing their own citizens that are not defending themselves, then a mass media cover-up praising the genocide , my God, even in communist Russia they didn't do this.
@GoodSamaritean4life Actually in Soviet Russia during Joseph Stallins life he ordered genocides of many of its own people and or anyone he saw as a threat. The killings and missing ran into the millions it was the Russians equivalent to the Holocaust and yet it is widely not discussed. The total number of civilians is murdered in Siberia alone is still not known. As for the US it is very hard to get away with killing a single person let alone millions with out someone noticing. The US not bad.
@eyelesssid I know what you mean. Stalin killed approx 60 million people. The thing is that America is turning into that system while Russia walks on the right path for now. Everyone knew then that there was propaganda on the TV and radio, now everyone takes the mainstream media for truth.
I live in Romania, Eastern Europe and we have adopted the same "western culture" here. The propaganda on TV is the same as it was in the communist regime, the problem now is that the people believe it.
@GoodSamaritean4life The people responsable for this were not American and were not living by the standards of what it means to be American. By all accounts these ATF agents and other federal officials did things according the the NWO way not the FOUNDERS WAY!!!
@GoodSamaritean4life try watching 7/7 ripple effect.It will show you how the british government bombed london and blamed the muslim boys....all governments are the same ,and they are plotting to enslave us all.....time to wake up people
@GoodSamaritean4life not having lived in russia you wouldnt know you dumbass...I was born in the an ex-soviet country in 93 when communism ended in 91...my great grandfather was killed and had his corpse towed attached to the back of a truck....any civil disturbance was dealt with harsh punishment and tanks and soldiers patroled the streets on a daily basis...a pair of young men were once hung for selling jeans...you do not know how good you got it pal...
Those women and children's suffering is over, The murdering scum that we paid to do this hasnt began their suffering yet and I promise it will be much worse and there will be no end or relief from it. I think God has a special part of hell waiting for them. Bill and Hillary and yes even Janet Reno will be there too !!
Those women and children's suffering is over, The murdering scum that we paid to do this hasnt began their suffering yet and I promise it will be much worse and there will be no end or relief from it. I think God has a special part of hell waiting for them.
@p0r110 I would rather let children figure out their beliefs as the mature rather than force them when they are young. giving guidance and support is not the same as forcing a belief on a child who knows no better at this vulnerable time. There are recent studies that connect heavy religious following and beliefs to be connected to mental defect and sanity issues. Religion was good at the time when order and answers were needed in society because there were no explanations. Its not true anymore.
@p0r110 Calling my points and opinion irrelevant because you have nothing better to come back with or debate about? Typical youtube user tactics your are using and they are not very well thought out. I said religious radicals should be removed and dealt with. I don't recall saying i want them all murdered and killed. What is happening and should continue to happen is children not being brainwashed into beliefs that are more harmful than good in the modern age.
@eyelesssid - What should NOT happen is that military psycho paths are allowed to prove what homosexual, brainless human waste is all about by setting these women and children on FIRE. They could have gotten Koresh without killing the kids. You sound like another fat belly rag waiving "patriotic" FOOL in the broke pocket American flesh. If you ever supported this filthy military act in my presence, I would slap your teeth down your throat. MILITARY killed those kids, NOT Koresh.
@p0r110 Also As for the Reagan comment I dislike religious people and many of who are republican and conservatives but I do not wish them dead. I wish them to be educated and more thoughtful. Also I can not wish Former President Ronald Reagan dead if he is already in fact dead. He has been dead since 2004 I believe.
@eyelesssid - Reagan was a homosexual using call boys at the white house itself. You sound like just another stupid, brainless, rag waiving, fat belly American FOOL who supports wealth and corruption. What will you brainwashed freaks say next, that 9-11 was pulled off by cavemen armed with box cutters ??? LMAO !!! I literally HATE the lives of pathetic peole like you who believe in political propaganda. You are NOTHING more than a broke pocket American LOSER getting PIMPED !!
@EducatedRebellion101 How many times do I need to tell morons like you that I am in fact from Finland. I am not an American citizen.I do not believe in any propaganda I take information from multiple sources many of which are international and than draw my own conclusions. If you consider me "brainless" and a "FOOL" than what might I ask do you consider yourself? You are not a scholar nor are you remotely sensible,intelligent, or fit to walk amongst your peers. You are spineless and ignorant.
@EducatedRebellion101 You have a name calling yourself educated when that is not up to you to determine this. You are a homophobic from your obvious anti gay comments meaning you fit into a large portion of a population that are in fact uneducated and ignorant to the point of barely functioning. You are also not a rebel you are simply a douche bag. You capitalized a word that perfectly describes your pathetic existence "HATE". How about thinking instead of blind hating like a fascist pig.
@EducatedRebellion101 I checked your profile and you are in fact an American and in Georgia of all places. From your comments and statements I can say your are anti homosexual , most likely fat since that is one of your favorite insults making me think that you might in fact be fat yourself. Its highly possible since you do live in the United States and in the South which is filled with many ignorant or under educated people. You are the result of a poor education system , so its understandable.
@p0r110 If you followed international news you would see Gaddafi ordering the slaughter of his own people in masses. Peaceful protesters were getting mowed down by machine guns. If you want I can show you the videos of these massacres. Ive watched many videos live streaming or coming out of these areas and believe me Gaddafi is no saint. Ive seen mass graves and chard corpses of children and people ,the news only shows the bombings well there was much more happening in Libya than whats on TV.
@p0r110 "I'm not reading any of your responses," You said you would not read them yet you have obviously done just that. If any one is a hypocrite its yourself. As for being a douche and a troll i might accept that because I do come on Youtube to mess with peoples emotions and humor myself. NATO targeted Gaddafi and yes killed his family members. Were they targets? No they were not but bombs and missiles don't discriminate when they explode. You act like collateral damage is a new thing?
@p0r110 Gaddafi is on the run and keeps on moving so by the time they get his location and send an attack on it he has already left and moved on. His family was at one of these locations and the attack was green lighted because they believed he was in there. With no foot troops to give more accurate intelligence on his where abouts I do not expect NATO airstrikes to be as effective as they could be. It is the Libyans war not the US's NATO stepped in to assist and give support when needed.
@p0r110 Someone should let you go up a couple thousand feet up into the sky with a plan and see how easy it is to pick out enemy targets. Oh did I mention they are using the same equipment ,both sides have trucks,tanks,infantry ect... some of the military even defected to the rebels so there are no clear lines unless they are in convoys. The plane gets an order and the pilot hopes its correct. As for the death of some of Gaddafi's family its unfortunate but its hard to track a single man.
@p0r110 Libya as well as much of the middle east is erupting and has been erupting in protests and revolutions. NATO airstrikes are not always as easy to make when its hard to tell who the targets really are and where they are at any given time. If you have followed the news you would have seen stories of airstrikes hitting the rebels because they are using the same equipment as some of the army and militias. These war planes can not always tell rebel from Gaddafi military.
@p0r110 Im not sure you have been following this whole argument and all my points and statements. I am not even an American citizen. I know the Democratic party and all of its elected presidents for the US has dropped the national debt and that the republicans are idiots. Trust me I am well aware I do follow world new very closely. I only brought up Clinton because he had the chance to kill Osama Bin Laden many years ago. I know he did great things but that was not one of them.
@p0r110 As for your last comment on my intelligence well I will leave that up for you and others to think about. I have made lengthy responses destroying every attack on me and every point brought against me. I have made arguments supported in fact and general knowledge of the events I speak of and see no way you can rationally refute plain visible evidence supporting my statements. If you believe me to be a retard after all I have had to say then I fear much worse for your own well being.
@p0r110 Oh also Libya is NOT his war It is the Libyan peoples war the UN intervened when obvious human rights were being violated and the people in the country were asking for outside aid. Don't you remember the whole no fly zone thing with multiple countries getting involved and enforcing it? After much research and tracking Osama Bin Laden was found and the president was not going to make the same mistake as his predecessor made and gave the green light. He made the correct move.
@p0r110 The President is a Icon that has some power that he can turn down ideas or veto if you will. Congress Is similar and when they don't agree with each other nothing gets done. You are right Clinton never did anything in fact he took away retired veterans money and pensions and took tons of money away from the military in general. also he had the chance to give the order the killing of Osama Bin Laden and did not give the green light even when he was in the sights of a sniper.
They were merely prisoners of conscience. Our law enforcement could have handled themselves on a professional level. No one deserves to suffer like this.
Oh geez watch out we control everything cause Finland is paid to work for the US government to control its citizens ;]. Oh geez watch out normalamericanguy we have satalights watching you man we know what you do and where you live and what your favorite flavor of ice cream is man. Be careful or big foot might come after ya lololol.
Hey also I saw someone saying I work for "Satan" .......Really I already said i don't believe in god or any religion so why the fuck would I work for something that does not exist lololol!!!!!!!!!!. I do not fear death , a god, a devil, a government , or any of your stupid fears because I am greater than that and have a decent education and live in a beautiful country called Finland., You Americans worry over stupid things and really need to get your heads out of your asses.
@normalamericanguy I wish I was a "shill" then I could be paid to ruin your pathetic life and enjoy every minute of it while getting paid :D! lol. "Your work for the government" ;] ok sure man .... Oh actually yes me a man from Finland is being paid to "direct traffic" on youtube for Americans lol. Get real do you live in a bunker in the middle of hicks ville afraid that the big bad government is gonna come for you? I wish i worked for the government so I could ruin your life :P
@normalamericanguy Watch out man I might send out secret government ninjas to bug your phones and put surveillance on your family. ;] " I am government man sent here by your government to govern ate stuff...I am sent by your government" --Invader Zim lol ;]. We are watching you be careful what you say lol. Oh watch out I have a explosive chip in your brain that if you get out of line we activate it and well you know the rest lol. Subliminal messages ohhhh man watch out man lol.
I hope you guys don't mind me trolling this page for now on because you make for good stupid people to make angry. P>S I don't even live in the US so I must be working for your government ;] lol ok. Oh and thank you for looking at my page I guess I will have to update it now since the recent youtube update reset all my stuff/info. It doesn't currently show anything because I don't come here often and waste my time on morons like yourselves.
What the hell is a "Shill" and where can I sign up to be one lol? If I can get paid to make fun of morons on the internet than I would gladly sign up for that job haha. @ normalamericanguy please give me a link to where I can sign up to be this awesome government paid job on the web Id take that no questions asked ha. Also I do subscribe to anything or really use youtube that much because the people that post crap on it are idiots for the most part.
go look at eyelesssid's page ... click on his name and look at his page .. (no subscribers) (not subbed to any1) the list of hints and clues is endless on his page showing this person as a gov. paid agent for internet ...
@normalamericanguy Also The picture I put up is a fan take on old web comics including the Watchmen which have anti hero characters like Rorschach that are clearly seeing the issue with governments AND the people and using vigil anti justice to take care of this. I am in favor of this for of justice and waco is one of those cases where it happened. A cult has internal issues and they are found out by outsiders and like most cults they self destructed from outside pressure.
@normalamericanguy Also you Claim I am a he I very well could be a she and I allow myself to remain anonymous to an extent which include my faceless avatar. If you want the truth give a man or woman a mask , that is the power of anonymity. I am giving you an honest truthful reply to what happened and I see waco as a violent cult being dealt with as they should all be. The Romans used to kill all kinds of cults such as Christianity until Emperor Constitine excepted the Christians.
@normalamericanguy Also no I never plan on working for the government I am an engineer in fact and really enjoy design and building things. I see videos like this watch them and laugh at the religious idiots and conspiracy theists that come out of the wet works. I troll them by saying obvious things to enrage them like "god is fake" , "cults should die", "you all are morons" and you all replying is feeding me. I do not work for any organization and am just getting kicks out of this stupidity.
There was nothing innocent about the cult. Sorry they fired back and had weapons. They could have given up peacefully but did not. They could have avoided this whole situation if they weren't hurting their own people. Someone stepped in and people are mad. the people who are angry about this are sad pathetic people.
@eyelesssid you are Obviously a paid SHill ... you guys think no 1 sees you and your filth ...you work for satan and we know you guys .. your all over the internet ... we see you for who you are ... we know the truth
@eyelesssid and you are another sheep, let me guess your a future TSA employee or county deputy? Koresh coulda been nabbed by the cop's as he went to town to get his mail, as he did every day, Un-armed. Yes he was, a POS child-molester, to murder over 70 innocent people over a BATF gun form, a piece of PAPER, NO FUCKING EXCUSE < NOT ONE, everyone up to, & including Janet (hell-bitch) Rino shoulda been charged with 1st degree MURDER.
@smelzodeath Ok now onto you. I am a sheep yet I am very liberal in my views and am not held back by conservative religions or ideals as many of the poor users posting here have shown or the cult followers at waco fell victim to. Also they outsiders went in to deal with the cult , they fired on armed cult members already aware the cult was not going to come out and be nice. The cult had a stockpile of arms and was getting out of hand. They were dealt with accordingly.
@eyelesssid Get your info from lamestream media sheep? Legally bought & owned guns, more than 2 guns doesnt constitute a stockpile. Even a blind sheep as yourself can get a real " machine gun". legally. So in your views, its OK for the SS troops to kill INNOCENT woman & children, just as long as we get afew guns off the streets? You should move to Canaduh..... full of blind sheep as yourself..... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Hows Obama's change workin for you? Idiot
@smelzodeath Are you a complete fucking moron? If you even bothered looking at any of the reports or live video you would clearly have seen more the 2 guns being used. The compound had much more than 2 weapons lol. Also yes I can get an Assault rifle or weapon through legal channels and have a license to own these sort of weapons. If you do not get the weapons through legal channels or have the proper licenses than the government will take them. Not every crazy on the street can have a weapon.
@smelzodeath Also what does SS troops or President Obama have to do with this conversation at all? Are you a retard like Glenn Beck lol? As to moving to Canada well Im quite fine living in Finland although Canada does have a great Health care system and is more of a free country than the US in lots of ways. Also you are a typical American idiot who doesn't know his own government and how it works.
@smelzodeath If you notice every Democrat president ever to serve office has decreased your nation debt and every republican has put you morons further into the gutter right?Looks like you are a sheep to your own media if you think your president Obama hasn't done good things for your country. Of course you must be a hillbilly that liked that last cowboy of a president whos hands are soaked in blood and oil wars. You should watch world media sources for you information because its not censored.
Oh also nice witty comeback asking if my mother knows I am on the internet lol. To bad I just destroyed you and your pathetic argument and views in 3 posts. You are a moron just like you ex fox entertainment host glenn beck who thinks every thing he doesn't like as Nazis or liberals. You are a loser of a man and more of a sheep than I could ever hope to be lol. You obviously don't watch the real news from around the world and compare and contrast. I feel bad for idiots like you.
@smelzodeath Oh want to know a fun fact man. Simo Häyhä a Fin sniper during world war 2 killed around 505 enemy troops by himself. His nick name given to him by the Russians and Germans was "White death". Even after being carpet bombed he crawled out of a forest with half his faced blown off and he survived. The point of me bringing this up is us Fins do not like Nazis so don't think for a second I endorse what they did.
its sad how citizens in this country think america is just so great and better than every other nation blah blah blah bullshit!! This just shows the government can fucking do anything without are say. 100's of innocent women and children just burned by our "heroic FBI"
@Ecl1ps33 And scarier? Our government lies about it and goes to great lengths to cover it up. At least governments in other countries (countries we consider so inferior) do it out in th open.
how about this. why wouldnt david surrender to save his people instead of committing to an winnable fight where his family would likely die during the firefight.
This a big lie that was sell to the American public like in 1963 when they kill president John . F . Kennedy , Everything that is a threat to this country is eliminated without question , In this case the threat was that could happen like James Jones in Jones town Guyana , Probably this people never had the intention to kill anybody but in this type of situation the governments doesn't think it twice , they just give the order to kill them no matter who's in the middle
This a big lie that was sell to the American public like in 1963 when they kill president John . F . Kennedy , Everything that is a threat to this country is eliminated without question , In this case the threat was that could happen like James Jones in Jones town Guyana , Probably this people never had the intention to kill anybody but in this type situation the governments doesn't think it twice , they just give the order to kill them no matter who's in the middle
Sounds like a bunch of pissed off children posting here. Also @ unclewooly congrats at being a internet loser who talks shit about the world and make hate comments and probably would not do so in person. If you said what you had in your last comment to anyone in person you would get hurt. Calling people spineless while you are doing shit yourself besides bitching on youtube.
Befoe this i viewed the ATF and FBI as a bunch of highly trained professionals, but this video makes them look like a bunch of jackass rookies who can't handle a weopon. Shooting yourself in the leg... what a fucking idiot.
Barry Soetoro is a FUCKING DISGRACE.. That CUNT has just declared war on Libya for doing the same thing that Barry's predecessors did to it's own people. That's without mentioning Ruby Ridge. You fucking piece of shit Barry. What about the people of Africa that face this genocide on a daily basis... OH that's right NIGGER, They don't have OIL.
FUCK YOU, FUCK AMERICA and while you bitches sit around in the states and let this happen... FUCK YOU..!!! Fucking spineless COWARDS.
"...During the 51-day siege, the FBI perverts camped outside the Branch Davidian church/home were told to be "as bad as you wanna be." Almost on a daily basis, they would come close to the Branch Davidian compound, so close they could see frightened men, women, and children watching from the windows..."
"..."Torch the Mother f...rs. Do it today!" That was the direct order given Janet Reno’s Justice Department by Hillary Rodham Clinton from the East Wing of the White House..."
Lies or not .. I believe religious groups are supposed to be humble; coz Jesus was. what would have happened if they opened doors the way a church is supposed to be? (OPEN!) and cooperate? why did they choose a stand off and lose? I think there was something going for them to barricade themselves. and use humn shields it doesnt make sense. Religion has to help people be rational & sensible if not then it isnt a religion but a criminal gang or cult. Were they trying unnecessarily to be martys??
great narration by a intelligent and informed woman, All the facts are here... when this happend i was a kid so all i heard was 3rd hand information on all this making him seem a very bad guy and that relgions like his are scary and should be stopped.
To bad its the fucking government that must be stopped.. and innocent children women and men were murdered because of thier belifs and party because of thier guns too.
@Kroenen117 I had just gotten out of the Army when I saw this on the tv. I couldn't watch it then. All I could think of was how I had always thought I was fighting the communists who did things like this in the Polish Uprising. To see it here was quite a shock and the beginning of the end for my giving a rat's ass about this country. I served ten years and I am proud to wipe my ass with the flag of this fascist country.
You know if the FBI let these people starve to death or waited for them to commit some sort of ritual suicide well then their would be a lot less finger pointing.
Because at the end of the day, the FBI can say, we gave them the chance to come out peacefully... but they chose death. Now when you fire tank a building, then fail to rescue children as the building is firefucking them...It really does paint a fine line between the good and bad guys. I cant tell who the real bad guy is here really.
look at the grown men violently sick from the gas. and they were using it against women and children "out of concern for the children", i guess they turned off the water "out of concern' as well. all propaganda and lies. those who are responsible for these murders and ruby ridge murders should be prosecuted
'This tape proves'. Typical conspiracy bullshit. Sorry I watched this expecting to be angry at the ATF/FBI and instead am angry that this is the work of yet another liar. Jesus, grassy knoll and building 7 videos next I guess. Yawn.
Schumacher, You are either an Idiot or a Shill....No matter what you say......the compound was surrounded all power, water, gas,telephone lines, sewer, were shut off......who was in danger? All you would have to do is sit and wait.....It is very plain there was an Agenda here, and it did not include the safety of any women and children.....You need to investigate Dr Louis Jolyon West and his involvement with the MKultra program. There is much much more here than meets the eye folks!
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Cant stand these conspiracy videos, these messed up Davidians had automatic weapons and had killed 4 ATF agents. They posed a great threat to life, and whether it was made delibrate by the FBI or not, they had to be taken out, they were given long enough, COMMON SENSE, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DFFERENTLY. Think of that
Do not know if it was a conspiracy, but I do think it is strange that the cops would act this way, don't you?
Children in the house and they come in with tanks? They should have though of the innocent lives in the house and put their safety first. Instead they come in like idiots. Even if they had automatic weapons, drugs or whatever. You do not put innocent lives at risk like this, don't they say PROTECT AND SERVE. Who did they protect this day? And who was really in danger?
@fedfan1234 Please watch the documentary Waco The Rules of Engagement and you will see that the agenda of the FBI was to murder these people in cold blood. This order came from the Clintons and the FBI and other agencies lied to the world so that we all thought the the Branch Davidians committed suicide where in reality they were murdered by the so called law enforcement that is supposed to be protecting them. The truth is dangerous.
@schumacher1994 It is made clear that an ATF agent killed his comrades by throwing a grenade into the compound and firing recklessly into a room they had just entered. We are trying to save America here and you are not even examining the evidence.
@davedidashit what actual evidence is there though? How do you that his comrades hadn't moved out of that room and the ATF agent was ensuring the the room was clear? What about the ATF agent that was injured by bullets flying through the wall from that same room? I think the ATF agent was clearly engaging Davidians who were in the room, as he went down seconds later
Yeah, you keep waiting for "God" to bring justice. Don't trouble yourself with the problems of this world, leave it to "God". That way, you can pretend everything is going to be fine.
Personally, I'm going to put MY trust in Santa Claus. He'll sort 'em out! I'll just sit back with a beer, watch some YouTube and wait. Any moment now...
You folks screaming demands for a smaller government are just too precious. As with all Tea Partiests and Republicans that "demand smaller government," it's not really a smaller government you are after. You just want the aspects of government that you don't like to be removed.
Want proof? The military is by FAR the most expensive aspect of government. How many GOP or Tea Party members want the military reduced? Hmmm?
Anyone who has served in the US Army knows how bad CS Gas burns and chokes, even when breifly exposed. Your eyes and lungs feel like acid and your skin feels like hot needles...these women and children were exposed for long periods of time, they must have been in hell.
Those murdering SOB's never intended for anyone to make it out alive......try to remember that this bloodbath & the Ruby Ridge fiasco both took place while the Democunts were in charge........
@golight Get over your partisanship. Do you seriously think the "ever-holy" republicans wouldn't do the same? I mean come on how stupid can you be? (And this is coming from a registered republican)
@mrsmelzbad - Who are you talking about here you sick freak ??? If you have a problem with the FACTS and REALITIES of what a shit bag government fat belly Toby Keith fans represent, then I suggest you take that reality and shove it right up your candy ass. Military psycho paths MURDERED over 60 women and children, while some pathetic broke pocket American LOSERS like you sat back and allowed it to happen. How more pathetic can you get. Judging by your comment you can't speak English either.
Animals in black clothing that kill innocent people. That is what our country has to be afraid of. How can these animals sleep at night knowing that they killed children.Burned them in a bunker just as Hitler burned children in ovens.This country is nothing to be proud of anymore. It is replaced by shame of people with power.Who cares if people live peacefully in a complex?David Koresh was not the one with the God complex.,The FBI and ATF was.
We close our eyes, and keep tellin ourself that we are doing the right thing!
The media tells us what we wanna hear and the media is run by the goverment. If you protest agianst our goverment's way of doing things, they keep tellin you that you ain't grateful nor patriotic! They make you look like your a terrorist because you put a "?" In what the goverment says or does.. But we brought this apon ourself's! Cuz we don't wanna hear the truth we are scared of opening our eyes. So we keep em shut..
@Bunjaku44 yes i agree the government is and has ben way out of control my eyes are and have been open and i hate what i already knew they cloud the truth........and that is fact there is to much government.....ie 2 many offices for our tax dollars to pay for I say REVOLUTION NOW!!!! sign me up and it is all corrupt with no accountability
You do realize that your politicians,your police,your FBI,your CIA,your american reporters are nothing but liars,murderers and thieves.You do realize that your police are retarded.You do realize that the FBI are serial killers.You do reazlize that your own government of the U.S. are totally responsible for the 9-11 terrorist attack.And you are aware of how panicked the police and FBI and judges are that you not discover the facts.Why do you think these human piles of garbage lie...!!!...
@Gary7Gann Right Our own government killed 3000 of our ppl on 9/11 sure pal wtf is wrong with u. Show me conclusive evidense tht our US government killed our ppl on 9/11. IF u dont then stfu god damn i hate ppl when they say tht stupid shit
Yes they are, so are u.s. reporters, and prison guards,like the D.H.R.like Alabama RETARDED...like u.s. judges,f.b.i. and c.i.a. all RETARDED,like u.s. politicians and law makers, all RETARDED,Like pop stars,RETARDED,Like Britney Spears RETARDED like Jewel Kilcher RETARDED like Sola da O lier RETARDED Like Nance Gracy RETARDED...
Interesting that this was all done under the Clinton administration. I would have thought that the Republicans under George Bush would have set up an inquiry to discredit the Democrats. Maybe they didn't because they are kickass themselves.
You bloody Yanks allow your government to do this to your own citizens?
The ATF gassed and cooked those kids just like the Nazis did to the Jews and you did....NOTHING. Hey...grab another "Big Mac'...
You Americans DESERVED to be gassed and tyrannized by your Government because ALL you bloody care about is stuffing your fat guts with as much food as possible and indulging in as much sex, drugs, and violent movies as you are able to.
Americans just sit back Fat, Stupid, and Ignorant....
David Koresh was just another religous nut who used his influence to have sex with multiple woman and young underage girls. The government is an all knowing and all controling power that needs to be stopped by the people of this country. Basically you have to choose the lesser of two evils.
@lostbuffalo There is no hope for justice oversees. You can see from the fascists commenting here, that few in the US are even interested in learning the truth about criminals who persecute them, so don't expect these base cur to have any concern for the innocents killed overseas
Damn
chadtriana1 2 weeks ago
The u.s goverment is getting bolder, then waco and now 911, lies upon lies.
kassop 2 weeks ago
@kassop ok 911 was not a government conspiracy
slimshady1997ful 1 week ago
If the US Government does this at home, what do you think they do to foreigners in the Third World countries that can't fight back?
burgundypoint 3 weeks ago
No, they did not murder them. It was a hoax, played for our benefit. They wished to condition us, and that is why it was done.
anastasia2657 1 month ago
Everything has CONTEXT, when you want to know the "why", look at how events are connected to other ones, and ask "Cui bono?" Who benefits?
Although he's quite out there & I'm no fan, Icke's term "Problem, Reaction, Solution" is just a differently worded phrase used to describe what is a legitimately proven method used by Govt's to get what they want in situations & matters where it would otherwise be impossible to do so with the consent of the governed.
N1k1mon 1 month ago
on Terrorism Hearings" where the Govt was doing all it could to slander and create fear about the Michigan Militia (And ALL Militia for that matter), who at that time they were doing everything they could to paint as the usual: racist, militant, extremist, violent, dangerous, etc., and they did their best to try and connect the OK City bombing with the militia, they were proven wrong but did a lot of damage. All the usual crap when they want to crush something that gets in their way. Everything
N1k1mon 1 month ago
@cgordijn At first it seemed you had legitimate questions, then you sink back into the status quo mindset because this tiny partial doco didn't give you a "why", instead of searching out that why. Well it just so happens that right after this the federal Govt began cracking down on firearms and passing/trying to pass all sorts of firearms laws using this as justification. There would soon be a swarm of allegations and controversy in the media over the Militia, leading to the "Senate Subcommitte
N1k1mon 1 month ago
hold on a second, assuming all of this is true. why would the american government want to kill all these people? is the american government just a bunch of sadists hell bent on killing people? all of this "proof" doesn't explain why they'ed want to do it. this whole thing is ridicules the narrator has no idea what shes talking about.
cgordijn 1 month ago
whats it gonna take for people to get upset with this type of stuff?
oldschoolkrist 2 months ago 2
How dare them fuckers wave the american flag on their nazi tanks
wishingfreedom 2 months ago
@hellrazor117 communist russia was and still is a piece of shit. soviet all you idiots should go back and live in that hell hole.
keithdra 2 months ago
@GoodSamaritean4life very well said. this country is the belly of the beast.
keithdra 2 months ago
And American Citizens do nothing....
Sept11Discovery 3 months ago
She uses the words,"appears to show" and then uses that video as a fact.
pdhudson0311 3 months ago
that was a pretty good documentary. but if the government is to blame, why does everyone blame the davidians for some of the stuff that occured in 1993?
BJ2466 3 months ago
state sanctioned Murder ! no more no less ! shame
jStevieO 3 months ago
I'll even praise the gullible people who support the gov actions because unlike the majority of sheeple, they at least took the time to watch this. Understanding Waco is the key to understanding 9-11 and other "terrorist" attacks.
rrrrw999 4 months ago
this documentary is a lie! we love the US government! this was edited to make the ATF and government look bad. what about the pedophilia that was going on? why did they have weapons? you are aiding in terrorism. unfortunate that the kids died, but the adults had to be finished. this is home grown terrorism. this is why america hates hippies. they look for anything to knock america. get out of the country. america is, and will always be the greatest land. you hippies gotta go.. quick! U.S.A
whitejoneswhitejones 4 months ago
@whitejoneswhitejones unfortunate that the kids died, but the adults had to be finished?? lol, home grown terrorism?? you just watched the video, who is being terrorised? I'm sorry if people in america actually think like this, it was a good run. I'm just happy I'm somewhere else watching it all go to shit. Try to think for yourself.
zimzima00789 4 months ago
i remember this as it played out. the AFT made many mistakes. but it was announced ahead of time that the tunnel ,etc... (bunker not mentioned) was to be blocked or filled with dirt, smoke, etc... to prevent anyone leaving from anywhere aside from the planned exit.
cheythebest1 4 months ago in playlist More videos from matheis
there are always assholes who think that the government does nothing wrong.
IMurderdTheDevil 4 months ago
Tdo79. Oh mindless blind followers ..so happy in their pathetic ignorance....they saw it on TV so it must be true...
truckinallnight69 5 months ago
Tatethedon...why don't you enlighten us...how old is the earth? Let us know and tell us how you figured it out...
truckinallnight69 5 months ago
Pity that too many people all over the world are so into the propaganda mass media says, rather than the actual facts and the truth. The Davidians whatever they really were, were martyred by the actions of a cruel and unjust government more concerned with selfish motives.
barriolimbas 5 months ago
From the Wiki
The first documentary film that was critical of the official reports was Waco: The Big Lie,[84] produced by Linda Thompson followed by Waco II: The Big Lie Continues.
The Linda Thompson videos were controversial and made a number of allegations, the most famous of which was footage of a tank with what appears to be light reflected from it; Thompson's narration claimed this was a flame-thrower attached to the tank.
22ness0hayden 5 months ago
Sorry, but at 7:29 the guy who jumps from the roof can be seen in interviews. He is a dividian who surrendered. If the narrator was acutally privy to any of the facts rather than just watching the video and making it up as she goes along then she would know this!!!!!
22ness0hayden 5 months ago
Okay, the ATF is wrong; they lost their funding. They and our gov't issoooooooooooooo stupid. I hope STUPID describes THESE ppl. Koresh never said he was God. I hope these ppl have the miserable life THEY deserve. All I know for sure is their funding has been cut. Quite rightfully so.
susanbcork 6 months ago
Oh conspiracy theorists....
tdo79 6 months ago
this can happen to anyone of us if false allegations are reported to enough ppl
IIIIlllllll 6 months ago
they died in a hell like state then they went to hell to suffer forever lol hahaha
MrBmw4life 6 months ago
Remember he fallen Weavers and Davidians
NICHOLSsdRUGBY4 6 months ago
A new poll has said that 51% of Americans believe that the earth is 10,000 years old. With that level of ignorance it is plain to see how so many can be duped into believing whatever comes out of their "boob tubes" Those of us that are awake need to realize that we may be fighting this battle vastly out numbered. The truth shall set us free and love for all, including our enemies, is the answer. Peace and love be with you all
tatethedon 6 months ago
koresh burned it down not the atf, and koresh shot ppl in his church before shoting himself dead, know you facts. but yeah fuck the government there just as bad
BanginDopeJunt 7 months ago
what we've learned from this is do not fuck with Government. no matter who u r or who u think u r, they will take your ass down n burn it. the bright or dark part(i dont know) is that the US government is no the only government doing this kinda shit. less or more but they all do that.
MrSeabassnz 7 months ago
America is a wicked and disqusting place. No matter how high your standard of living is, these scenes make it look like a hell hole. Tanks and helicopters bombing their own citizens that are not defending themselves, then a mass media cover-up praising the genocide , my God, even in communist Russia they didn't do this.
GoodSamaritean4life 7 months ago 11
@GoodSamaritean4life Actually in Soviet Russia during Joseph Stallins life he ordered genocides of many of its own people and or anyone he saw as a threat. The killings and missing ran into the millions it was the Russians equivalent to the Holocaust and yet it is widely not discussed. The total number of civilians is murdered in Siberia alone is still not known. As for the US it is very hard to get away with killing a single person let alone millions with out someone noticing. The US not bad.
eyelesssid 7 months ago
@eyelesssid I know what you mean. Stalin killed approx 60 million people. The thing is that America is turning into that system while Russia walks on the right path for now. Everyone knew then that there was propaganda on the TV and radio, now everyone takes the mainstream media for truth.
I live in Romania, Eastern Europe and we have adopted the same "western culture" here. The propaganda on TV is the same as it was in the communist regime, the problem now is that the people believe it.
GoodSamaritean4life 7 months ago 3
@GoodSamaritean4life The people responsable for this were not American and were not living by the standards of what it means to be American. By all accounts these ATF agents and other federal officials did things according the the NWO way not the FOUNDERS WAY!!!
4lifeReagan 5 months ago
@GoodSamaritean4life try watching 7/7 ripple effect.It will show you how the british government bombed london and blamed the muslim boys....all governments are the same ,and they are plotting to enslave us all.....time to wake up people
toppertruthio 4 months ago
@GoodSamaritean4life not having lived in russia you wouldnt know you dumbass...I was born in the an ex-soviet country in 93 when communism ended in 91...my great grandfather was killed and had his corpse towed attached to the back of a truck....any civil disturbance was dealt with harsh punishment and tanks and soldiers patroled the streets on a daily basis...a pair of young men were once hung for selling jeans...you do not know how good you got it pal...
hellrazor117 3 months ago
@hellrazor117 My uncle was put in prison for listening to Rolling Stones.
I don't want to give personal details on the net, but trust me, I know exactly what I am talking about.
GoodSamaritean4life 3 months ago
@GoodSamaritean4life
In soviet russia you kill soldier
Crawfornater 1 week ago
Those women and children's suffering is over, The murdering scum that we paid to do this hasnt began their suffering yet and I promise it will be much worse and there will be no end or relief from it. I think God has a special part of hell waiting for them. Bill and Hillary and yes even Janet Reno will be there too !!
1meangrizzly 7 months ago
Those women and children's suffering is over, The murdering scum that we paid to do this hasnt began their suffering yet and I promise it will be much worse and there will be no end or relief from it. I think God has a special part of hell waiting for them.
1meangrizzly 7 months ago
k so.... this is all super interesting... why woulda they do it though?
doonymacc 7 months ago
@doonymacc Because ATF, just as most other Federal agencies, are a bunch of fucking corrupt, political, morons.
Why would they? Because they can. Nothing like believing your an ultimate power above everyone else to spice up your day.
hean34 7 months ago
BB does not mean Brad Branch, it means Biggest Bitch!
Invin86rs 8 months ago
look at all the christians acusing the goverment of disriminating and trying to eliminate them XD
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screamofan818 8 months ago
@p0r110 I would rather let children figure out their beliefs as the mature rather than force them when they are young. giving guidance and support is not the same as forcing a belief on a child who knows no better at this vulnerable time. There are recent studies that connect heavy religious following and beliefs to be connected to mental defect and sanity issues. Religion was good at the time when order and answers were needed in society because there were no explanations. Its not true anymore.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 Calling my points and opinion irrelevant because you have nothing better to come back with or debate about? Typical youtube user tactics your are using and they are not very well thought out. I said religious radicals should be removed and dealt with. I don't recall saying i want them all murdered and killed. What is happening and should continue to happen is children not being brainwashed into beliefs that are more harmful than good in the modern age.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@eyelesssid - What should NOT happen is that military psycho paths are allowed to prove what homosexual, brainless human waste is all about by setting these women and children on FIRE. They could have gotten Koresh without killing the kids. You sound like another fat belly rag waiving "patriotic" FOOL in the broke pocket American flesh. If you ever supported this filthy military act in my presence, I would slap your teeth down your throat. MILITARY killed those kids, NOT Koresh.
EducatedRebellion101 8 months ago
They trapped them and murdered them!!!!!
molitor2005 8 months ago 23
@p0r110 Also As for the Reagan comment I dislike religious people and many of who are republican and conservatives but I do not wish them dead. I wish them to be educated and more thoughtful. Also I can not wish Former President Ronald Reagan dead if he is already in fact dead. He has been dead since 2004 I believe.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@eyelesssid - Reagan was a homosexual using call boys at the white house itself. You sound like just another stupid, brainless, rag waiving, fat belly American FOOL who supports wealth and corruption. What will you brainwashed freaks say next, that 9-11 was pulled off by cavemen armed with box cutters ??? LMAO !!! I literally HATE the lives of pathetic peole like you who believe in political propaganda. You are NOTHING more than a broke pocket American LOSER getting PIMPED !!
EducatedRebellion101 8 months ago
@EducatedRebellion101 How many times do I need to tell morons like you that I am in fact from Finland. I am not an American citizen.I do not believe in any propaganda I take information from multiple sources many of which are international and than draw my own conclusions. If you consider me "brainless" and a "FOOL" than what might I ask do you consider yourself? You are not a scholar nor are you remotely sensible,intelligent, or fit to walk amongst your peers. You are spineless and ignorant.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@EducatedRebellion101 You have a name calling yourself educated when that is not up to you to determine this. You are a homophobic from your obvious anti gay comments meaning you fit into a large portion of a population that are in fact uneducated and ignorant to the point of barely functioning. You are also not a rebel you are simply a douche bag. You capitalized a word that perfectly describes your pathetic existence "HATE". How about thinking instead of blind hating like a fascist pig.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@EducatedRebellion101 I checked your profile and you are in fact an American and in Georgia of all places. From your comments and statements I can say your are anti homosexual , most likely fat since that is one of your favorite insults making me think that you might in fact be fat yourself. Its highly possible since you do live in the United States and in the South which is filled with many ignorant or under educated people. You are the result of a poor education system , so its understandable.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 If you followed international news you would see Gaddafi ordering the slaughter of his own people in masses. Peaceful protesters were getting mowed down by machine guns. If you want I can show you the videos of these massacres. Ive watched many videos live streaming or coming out of these areas and believe me Gaddafi is no saint. Ive seen mass graves and chard corpses of children and people ,the news only shows the bombings well there was much more happening in Libya than whats on TV.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 "I'm not reading any of your responses," You said you would not read them yet you have obviously done just that. If any one is a hypocrite its yourself. As for being a douche and a troll i might accept that because I do come on Youtube to mess with peoples emotions and humor myself. NATO targeted Gaddafi and yes killed his family members. Were they targets? No they were not but bombs and missiles don't discriminate when they explode. You act like collateral damage is a new thing?
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 Gaddafi is on the run and keeps on moving so by the time they get his location and send an attack on it he has already left and moved on. His family was at one of these locations and the attack was green lighted because they believed he was in there. With no foot troops to give more accurate intelligence on his where abouts I do not expect NATO airstrikes to be as effective as they could be. It is the Libyans war not the US's NATO stepped in to assist and give support when needed.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 Someone should let you go up a couple thousand feet up into the sky with a plan and see how easy it is to pick out enemy targets. Oh did I mention they are using the same equipment ,both sides have trucks,tanks,infantry ect... some of the military even defected to the rebels so there are no clear lines unless they are in convoys. The plane gets an order and the pilot hopes its correct. As for the death of some of Gaddafi's family its unfortunate but its hard to track a single man.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 Libya as well as much of the middle east is erupting and has been erupting in protests and revolutions. NATO airstrikes are not always as easy to make when its hard to tell who the targets really are and where they are at any given time. If you have followed the news you would have seen stories of airstrikes hitting the rebels because they are using the same equipment as some of the army and militias. These war planes can not always tell rebel from Gaddafi military.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 Im not sure you have been following this whole argument and all my points and statements. I am not even an American citizen. I know the Democratic party and all of its elected presidents for the US has dropped the national debt and that the republicans are idiots. Trust me I am well aware I do follow world new very closely. I only brought up Clinton because he had the chance to kill Osama Bin Laden many years ago. I know he did great things but that was not one of them.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 As for your last comment on my intelligence well I will leave that up for you and others to think about. I have made lengthy responses destroying every attack on me and every point brought against me. I have made arguments supported in fact and general knowledge of the events I speak of and see no way you can rationally refute plain visible evidence supporting my statements. If you believe me to be a retard after all I have had to say then I fear much worse for your own well being.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 Oh also Libya is NOT his war It is the Libyan peoples war the UN intervened when obvious human rights were being violated and the people in the country were asking for outside aid. Don't you remember the whole no fly zone thing with multiple countries getting involved and enforcing it? After much research and tracking Osama Bin Laden was found and the president was not going to make the same mistake as his predecessor made and gave the green light. He made the correct move.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
@p0r110 The President is a Icon that has some power that he can turn down ideas or veto if you will. Congress Is similar and when they don't agree with each other nothing gets done. You are right Clinton never did anything in fact he took away retired veterans money and pensions and took tons of money away from the military in general. also he had the chance to give the order the killing of Osama Bin Laden and did not give the green light even when he was in the sights of a sniper.
eyelesssid 8 months ago
How many hostages are killed that time?
airsoftbrian 8 months ago
They were merely prisoners of conscience. Our law enforcement could have handled themselves on a professional level. No one deserves to suffer like this.
GruppeSechs2004 9 months ago
Oh geez watch out we control everything cause Finland is paid to work for the US government to control its citizens ;]. Oh geez watch out normalamericanguy we have satalights watching you man we know what you do and where you live and what your favorite flavor of ice cream is man. Be careful or big foot might come after ya lololol.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@eyelesssid Does your mom know your on her computer?????
smelzodeath 9 months ago
Hey also I saw someone saying I work for "Satan" .......Really I already said i don't believe in god or any religion so why the fuck would I work for something that does not exist lololol!!!!!!!!!!. I do not fear death , a god, a devil, a government , or any of your stupid fears because I am greater than that and have a decent education and live in a beautiful country called Finland., You Americans worry over stupid things and really need to get your heads out of your asses.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@eyelesssid you are an obvious shill ... paid to be here and help direct trafic
normalamericanguy 9 months ago
@normalamericanguy I wish I was a "shill" then I could be paid to ruin your pathetic life and enjoy every minute of it while getting paid :D! lol. "Your work for the government" ;] ok sure man .... Oh actually yes me a man from Finland is being paid to "direct traffic" on youtube for Americans lol. Get real do you live in a bunker in the middle of hicks ville afraid that the big bad government is gonna come for you? I wish i worked for the government so I could ruin your life :P
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@normalamericanguy Watch out man I might send out secret government ninjas to bug your phones and put surveillance on your family. ;] " I am government man sent here by your government to govern ate stuff...I am sent by your government" --Invader Zim lol ;]. We are watching you be careful what you say lol. Oh watch out I have a explosive chip in your brain that if you get out of line we activate it and well you know the rest lol. Subliminal messages ohhhh man watch out man lol.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
I hope you guys don't mind me trolling this page for now on because you make for good stupid people to make angry. P>S I don't even live in the US so I must be working for your government ;] lol ok. Oh and thank you for looking at my page I guess I will have to update it now since the recent youtube update reset all my stuff/info. It doesn't currently show anything because I don't come here often and waste my time on morons like yourselves.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
What the hell is a "Shill" and where can I sign up to be one lol? If I can get paid to make fun of morons on the internet than I would gladly sign up for that job haha. @ normalamericanguy please give me a link to where I can sign up to be this awesome government paid job on the web Id take that no questions asked ha. Also I do subscribe to anything or really use youtube that much because the people that post crap on it are idiots for the most part.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
go look at eyelesssid's page ... click on his name and look at his page .. (no subscribers) (not subbed to any1) the list of hints and clues is endless on his page showing this person as a gov. paid agent for internet ...
normalamericanguy 9 months ago
@normalamericanguy Also The picture I put up is a fan take on old web comics including the Watchmen which have anti hero characters like Rorschach that are clearly seeing the issue with governments AND the people and using vigil anti justice to take care of this. I am in favor of this for of justice and waco is one of those cases where it happened. A cult has internal issues and they are found out by outsiders and like most cults they self destructed from outside pressure.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@normalamericanguy Also you Claim I am a he I very well could be a she and I allow myself to remain anonymous to an extent which include my faceless avatar. If you want the truth give a man or woman a mask , that is the power of anonymity. I am giving you an honest truthful reply to what happened and I see waco as a violent cult being dealt with as they should all be. The Romans used to kill all kinds of cults such as Christianity until Emperor Constitine excepted the Christians.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@normalamericanguy Also no I never plan on working for the government I am an engineer in fact and really enjoy design and building things. I see videos like this watch them and laugh at the religious idiots and conspiracy theists that come out of the wet works. I troll them by saying obvious things to enrage them like "god is fake" , "cults should die", "you all are morons" and you all replying is feeding me. I do not work for any organization and am just getting kicks out of this stupidity.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
There was nothing innocent about the cult. Sorry they fired back and had weapons. They could have given up peacefully but did not. They could have avoided this whole situation if they weren't hurting their own people. Someone stepped in and people are mad. the people who are angry about this are sad pathetic people.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@eyelesssid you are Obviously a paid SHill ... you guys think no 1 sees you and your filth ...you work for satan and we know you guys .. your all over the internet ... we see you for who you are ... we know the truth
normalamericanguy 9 months ago
@eyelesssid and you are another sheep, let me guess your a future TSA employee or county deputy? Koresh coulda been nabbed by the cop's as he went to town to get his mail, as he did every day, Un-armed. Yes he was, a POS child-molester, to murder over 70 innocent people over a BATF gun form, a piece of PAPER, NO FUCKING EXCUSE < NOT ONE, everyone up to, & including Janet (hell-bitch) Rino shoulda been charged with 1st degree MURDER.
smelzodeath 9 months ago
@smelzodeath Ok now onto you. I am a sheep yet I am very liberal in my views and am not held back by conservative religions or ideals as many of the poor users posting here have shown or the cult followers at waco fell victim to. Also they outsiders went in to deal with the cult , they fired on armed cult members already aware the cult was not going to come out and be nice. The cult had a stockpile of arms and was getting out of hand. They were dealt with accordingly.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@eyelesssid Get your info from lamestream media sheep? Legally bought & owned guns, more than 2 guns doesnt constitute a stockpile. Even a blind sheep as yourself can get a real " machine gun". legally. So in your views, its OK for the SS troops to kill INNOCENT woman & children, just as long as we get afew guns off the streets? You should move to Canaduh..... full of blind sheep as yourself..... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Hows Obama's change workin for you? Idiot
smelzodeath 9 months ago
@smelzodeath Are you a complete fucking moron? If you even bothered looking at any of the reports or live video you would clearly have seen more the 2 guns being used. The compound had much more than 2 weapons lol. Also yes I can get an Assault rifle or weapon through legal channels and have a license to own these sort of weapons. If you do not get the weapons through legal channels or have the proper licenses than the government will take them. Not every crazy on the street can have a weapon.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@smelzodeath Also what does SS troops or President Obama have to do with this conversation at all? Are you a retard like Glenn Beck lol? As to moving to Canada well Im quite fine living in Finland although Canada does have a great Health care system and is more of a free country than the US in lots of ways. Also you are a typical American idiot who doesn't know his own government and how it works.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@smelzodeath If you notice every Democrat president ever to serve office has decreased your nation debt and every republican has put you morons further into the gutter right?Looks like you are a sheep to your own media if you think your president Obama hasn't done good things for your country. Of course you must be a hillbilly that liked that last cowboy of a president whos hands are soaked in blood and oil wars. You should watch world media sources for you information because its not censored.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@smelzodeath
Oh also nice witty comeback asking if my mother knows I am on the internet lol. To bad I just destroyed you and your pathetic argument and views in 3 posts. You are a moron just like you ex fox entertainment host glenn beck who thinks every thing he doesn't like as Nazis or liberals. You are a loser of a man and more of a sheep than I could ever hope to be lol. You obviously don't watch the real news from around the world and compare and contrast. I feel bad for idiots like you.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
@smelzodeath Oh want to know a fun fact man. Simo Häyhä a Fin sniper during world war 2 killed around 505 enemy troops by himself. His nick name given to him by the Russians and Germans was "White death". Even after being carpet bombed he crawled out of a forest with half his faced blown off and he survived. The point of me bringing this up is us Fins do not like Nazis so don't think for a second I endorse what they did.
eyelesssid 9 months ago
its sad how citizens in this country think america is just so great and better than every other nation blah blah blah bullshit!! This just shows the government can fucking do anything without are say. 100's of innocent women and children just burned by our "heroic FBI"
Ecl1ps33 9 months ago
@Ecl1ps33 And scarier? Our government lies about it and goes to great lengths to cover it up. At least governments in other countries (countries we consider so inferior) do it out in th open.
HippyWitchGal 9 months ago
how about this. why wouldnt david surrender to save his people instead of committing to an winnable fight where his family would likely die during the firefight.
246trinitrotoluene 9 months ago
even worse than 9/11 holy fuck whats wrong these americans
yezidi11 9 months ago
what about the women and young girls being raped by this man and his lies...There parents want protecting them someone had too.
sandyhembree 9 months ago
@sandyhembree That never happened it was a fucking lie
Bigbadred23 9 months ago
This a big lie that was sell to the American public like in 1963 when they kill president John . F . Kennedy , Everything that is a threat to this country is eliminated without question , In this case the threat was that could happen like James Jones in Jones town Guyana , Probably this people never had the intention to kill anybody but in this type of situation the governments doesn't think it twice , they just give the order to kill them no matter who's in the middle
tomasluqueful 9 months ago
This a big lie that was sell to the American public like in 1963 when they kill president John . F . Kennedy , Everything that is a threat to this country is eliminated without question , In this case the threat was that could happen like James Jones in Jones town Guyana , Probably this people never had the intention to kill anybody but in this type situation the governments doesn't think it twice , they just give the order to kill them no matter who's in the middle
tomasluqueful 9 months ago
Too fucking sad how they got away with mass murder.........
bufbill72 9 months ago
Fuck the FBI and ATF .
spookyboy6619 9 months ago
Chainalgorithmo is ATF agent...lol
spookyboy6619 9 months ago
Americans are waking up to what the rest of the world's known forever. Powers that be want everyone dead.;
tvver 9 months ago
Natural selection dished out at the end of MP5... good stuff. We need wipe out the rest of these nutjob cults.
ChainAlgorithm0 9 months ago
If this is true, explain this video:
/watch?v=Kn0hcpyGuac&feature=related
TheXerxes004 9 months ago
murderers!
freedomfighter790 9 months ago
ruby ridge , branch devidians, gulf of tonkin, 911,
twitchtwitchreel 9 months ago
Sounds like a bunch of pissed off children posting here. Also @ unclewooly congrats at being a internet loser who talks shit about the world and make hate comments and probably would not do so in person. If you said what you had in your last comment to anyone in person you would get hurt. Calling people spineless while you are doing shit yourself besides bitching on youtube.
eyelesssid 10 months ago
Befoe this i viewed the ATF and FBI as a bunch of highly trained professionals, but this video makes them look like a bunch of jackass rookies who can't handle a weopon. Shooting yourself in the leg... what a fucking idiot.
1990chingoblack 10 months ago
Barry Soetoro is a FUCKING DISGRACE.. That CUNT has just declared war on Libya for doing the same thing that Barry's predecessors did to it's own people. That's without mentioning Ruby Ridge. You fucking piece of shit Barry. What about the people of Africa that face this genocide on a daily basis... OH that's right NIGGER, They don't have OIL.
FUCK YOU, FUCK AMERICA and while you bitches sit around in the states and let this happen... FUCK YOU..!!! Fucking spineless COWARDS.
unclewooly 10 months ago
"...During the 51-day siege, the FBI perverts camped outside the Branch Davidian church/home were told to be "as bad as you wanna be." Almost on a daily basis, they would come close to the Branch Davidian compound, so close they could see frightened men, women, and children watching from the windows..."
"..."Torch the Mother f...rs. Do it today!" That was the direct order given Janet Reno’s Justice Department by Hillary Rodham Clinton from the East Wing of the White House..."
hangdapope 10 months ago
Janet Reno and Bill Clinton....evil scum that live in the extreme bottom of a putrid rotton hole of an old shit house.
wovokanarchy 10 months ago
Lies or not .. I believe religious groups are supposed to be humble; coz Jesus was. what would have happened if they opened doors the way a church is supposed to be? (OPEN!) and cooperate? why did they choose a stand off and lose? I think there was something going for them to barricade themselves. and use humn shields it doesnt make sense. Religion has to help people be rational & sensible if not then it isnt a religion but a criminal gang or cult. Were they trying unnecessarily to be martys??
intrepeco 10 months ago
complete criminality. the 2nd ammendment? to protect us from the government
1968Apostle 10 months ago
great narration by a intelligent and informed woman, All the facts are here... when this happend i was a kid so all i heard was 3rd hand information on all this making him seem a very bad guy and that relgions like his are scary and should be stopped.
To bad its the fucking government that must be stopped.. and innocent children women and men were murdered because of thier belifs and party because of thier guns too.
Fuck the Government.
Kroenen117 11 months ago 16
@Kroenen117 Yes, sir.
Mrdavid839 10 months ago
@Kroenen117 I had just gotten out of the Army when I saw this on the tv. I couldn't watch it then. All I could think of was how I had always thought I was fighting the communists who did things like this in the Polish Uprising. To see it here was quite a shock and the beginning of the end for my giving a rat's ass about this country. I served ten years and I am proud to wipe my ass with the flag of this fascist country.
anarchist344 8 months ago
@Kroenen117 yeah, FUCK THE GOVERNMENT. and then what? what comes after condemnation? you have any better ideas?? i'd love to hear them.
bijibadness 6 months ago
You know if the FBI let these people starve to death or waited for them to commit some sort of ritual suicide well then their would be a lot less finger pointing.
Because at the end of the day, the FBI can say, we gave them the chance to come out peacefully... but they chose death. Now when you fire tank a building, then fail to rescue children as the building is firefucking them...It really does paint a fine line between the good and bad guys. I cant tell who the real bad guy is here really.
JahobesDaGreatest 11 months ago
look at the grown men violently sick from the gas. and they were using it against women and children "out of concern for the children", i guess they turned off the water "out of concern' as well. all propaganda and lies. those who are responsible for these murders and ruby ridge murders should be prosecuted
EXPLOITEDFIGHT 11 months ago
'This tape proves'. Typical conspiracy bullshit. Sorry I watched this expecting to be angry at the ATF/FBI and instead am angry that this is the work of yet another liar. Jesus, grassy knoll and building 7 videos next I guess. Yawn.
OneBigRetard 11 months ago
Schumacher, You are either an Idiot or a Shill....No matter what you say......the compound was surrounded all power, water, gas,telephone lines, sewer, were shut off......who was in danger? All you would have to do is sit and wait.....It is very plain there was an Agenda here, and it did not include the safety of any women and children.....You need to investigate Dr Louis Jolyon West and his involvement with the MKultra program. There is much much more here than meets the eye folks!
heartnsoulband 11 months ago 3
it was a cluster fuck slaughter by the federal gov't.
Koresh was nuts, but the presence of woman and children should have stopped these goofs(ATF-FBI) from shooting into the building.
This act goes against use of force guidelines..., typical over play by weekend warriors in the federal gov't.
ChicagoIrishman1 11 months ago 2
@ChicagoIrishman1 man they burned women and children, nothing typical about that !
MattBlytheTheOne 11 months ago
this sounds like it was made by a branch davidian
slatanicbastard 11 months ago
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Cant stand these conspiracy videos, these messed up Davidians had automatic weapons and had killed 4 ATF agents. They posed a great threat to life, and whether it was made delibrate by the FBI or not, they had to be taken out, they were given long enough, COMMON SENSE, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DFFERENTLY. Think of that
schumacher1994 1 year ago
@schumacher1994
Do not know if it was a conspiracy, but I do think it is strange that the cops would act this way, don't you?
Children in the house and they come in with tanks? They should have though of the innocent lives in the house and put their safety first. Instead they come in like idiots. Even if they had automatic weapons, drugs or whatever. You do not put innocent lives at risk like this, don't they say PROTECT AND SERVE. Who did they protect this day? And who was really in danger?
fedfan1234 1 year ago 2
@fedfan1234 Please watch the documentary Waco The Rules of Engagement and you will see that the agenda of the FBI was to murder these people in cold blood. This order came from the Clintons and the FBI and other agencies lied to the world so that we all thought the the Branch Davidians committed suicide where in reality they were murdered by the so called law enforcement that is supposed to be protecting them. The truth is dangerous.
JNR
jnr8877 9 months ago
@schumacher1994 It is made clear that an ATF agent killed his comrades by throwing a grenade into the compound and firing recklessly into a room they had just entered. We are trying to save America here and you are not even examining the evidence.
davedidashit 1 year ago 2
@davedidashit what actual evidence is there though? How do you that his comrades hadn't moved out of that room and the ATF agent was ensuring the the room was clear? What about the ATF agent that was injured by bullets flying through the wall from that same room? I think the ATF agent was clearly engaging Davidians who were in the room, as he went down seconds later
schumacher1994 1 year ago
@FieldMarshalB
Yeah, you keep waiting for "God" to bring justice. Don't trouble yourself with the problems of this world, leave it to "God". That way, you can pretend everything is going to be fine.
Personally, I'm going to put MY trust in Santa Claus. He'll sort 'em out! I'll just sit back with a beer, watch some YouTube and wait. Any moment now...
arthurneddysmith 1 year ago 2
@pkreider16
You folks screaming demands for a smaller government are just too precious. As with all Tea Partiests and Republicans that "demand smaller government," it's not really a smaller government you are after. You just want the aspects of government that you don't like to be removed.
Want proof? The military is by FAR the most expensive aspect of government. How many GOP or Tea Party members want the military reduced? Hmmm?
arthurneddysmith 1 year ago
Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11... we stand no chance at getting honest officials to interrogate their own!!!
threepercenter03 1 year ago
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threepercenter03 1 year ago
Anyone who has served in the US Army knows how bad CS Gas burns and chokes, even when breifly exposed. Your eyes and lungs feel like acid and your skin feels like hot needles...these women and children were exposed for long periods of time, they must have been in hell.
lordpoee 1 year ago
@lordpoee This was done to encourage them to leave through the maze of hallways, tunnels and doors.
aguuled 1 year ago
Those murdering SOB's never intended for anyone to make it out alive......try to remember that this bloodbath & the Ruby Ridge fiasco both took place while the Democunts were in charge........
golight 1 year ago 2
@golight Get over your partisanship. Do you seriously think the "ever-holy" republicans wouldn't do the same? I mean come on how stupid can you be? (And this is coming from a registered republican)
LightningBoltz 1 year ago
Well I for one cant wait till that ugly hell-bitch dies so's I can take me's a big greasy dump on her grave.
mrsmelzbad 1 year ago 11
@mrsmelzbad kudos- greasy is the key!
7judas77 9 months ago
@mrsmelzbad - Who are you talking about here you sick freak ??? If you have a problem with the FACTS and REALITIES of what a shit bag government fat belly Toby Keith fans represent, then I suggest you take that reality and shove it right up your candy ass. Military psycho paths MURDERED over 60 women and children, while some pathetic broke pocket American LOSERS like you sat back and allowed it to happen. How more pathetic can you get. Judging by your comment you can't speak English either.
EducatedRebellion101 8 months ago
Animals in black clothing that kill innocent people. That is what our country has to be afraid of. How can these animals sleep at night knowing that they killed children.Burned them in a bunker just as Hitler burned children in ovens.This country is nothing to be proud of anymore. It is replaced by shame of people with power.Who cares if people live peacefully in a complex?David Koresh was not the one with the God complex.,The FBI and ATF was.
velvett37 1 year ago
"These boots are made for walking" oh the humanity.
owainmeurig 1 year ago
This is just horrific.
Reminds me of Beslan school.
michaelbyrnes2012 1 year ago
We close our eyes, and keep tellin ourself that we are doing the right thing!
The media tells us what we wanna hear and the media is run by the goverment. If you protest agianst our goverment's way of doing things, they keep tellin you that you ain't grateful nor patriotic! They make you look like your a terrorist because you put a "?" In what the goverment says or does.. But we brought this apon ourself's! Cuz we don't wanna hear the truth we are scared of opening our eyes. So we keep em shut..
Bunjaku44 1 year ago 2
@Bunjaku44
yes i agree
the government is and has ben way out of control
my eyes are and have been open
and i hate what i already knew
they cloud the truth........and that is fact
there is to much government.....ie 2 many offices for our tax dollars to pay for
I say REVOLUTION NOW!!!!
sign me up
pkreider16 1 year ago
pkreider16 1 year ago
this is utter bullshit
mafiagman 1 year ago
wow if the american government murder there own people,its safe to assume they will murder any1.
3rk4u 1 year ago
Some of this has some credibility, but I still believe that this total crap
NerfModTutorials 1 year ago
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Military used to kill citizens!!!!!
They gassed those people to death and burned the evidence!!!!
The davidians had amassed PROOF that drug smuggling and child abduction networks were operating out of the military base nearby.
They were doing surveillance of the base and hacked into important data.
They were all killed because they knew to much.
WHY ELSE USE MILITARY FORCE TO MURDER THEM.
Micaleth2 1 year ago
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Note the fleet of large off road dune buggies with camera mounts on top, they are parked to the rear of the compound.
Also note the elaborate computer setup the davidians had.
These were used to monitor the military base nearby.
The davidians KNEW the government was selling dope and running a child sex racket.
They had proof.
When this all started David tried to hand over a CD to the officers, HE WAS FORCED back into the building.
They did not want the info, the wanted to silence them all.
Micaleth2 1 year ago
You do realize that your politicians,your police,your FBI,your CIA,your american reporters are nothing but liars,murderers and thieves.You do realize that your police are retarded.You do realize that the FBI are serial killers.You do reazlize that your own government of the U.S. are totally responsible for the 9-11 terrorist attack.And you are aware of how panicked the police and FBI and judges are that you not discover the facts.Why do you think these human piles of garbage lie...!!!...
Gary7Gann 1 year ago
@Gary7Gann Right Our own government killed 3000 of our ppl on 9/11 sure pal wtf is wrong with u. Show me conclusive evidense tht our US government killed our ppl on 9/11. IF u dont then stfu god damn i hate ppl when they say tht stupid shit
trinitystarr11 10 months ago
Yes they are, so are u.s. reporters, and prison guards,like the D.H.R.like Alabama RETARDED...like u.s. judges,f.b.i. and c.i.a. all RETARDED,like u.s. politicians and law makers, all RETARDED,Like pop stars,RETARDED,Like Britney Spears RETARDED like Jewel Kilcher RETARDED like Sola da O lier RETARDED Like Nance Gracy RETARDED...
Gary7Gann 1 year ago
@Gary7Gann dear god. I think that you are RETARDED. Grow up.
usmcpound 1 year ago
Interesting that this was all done under the Clinton administration. I would have thought that the Republicans under George Bush would have set up an inquiry to discredit the Democrats. Maybe they didn't because they are kickass themselves.
patrickcorliss 1 year ago
Thank you Linda Thompson for piecing all of this together
whales 1 year ago
sickening
whales 1 year ago
FBI+ATF= retarded people >>> lying murderous bastards
dooooms666 1 year ago
WOW
ZackAttack261 1 year ago
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You bloody Yanks allow your government to do this to your own citizens?
The ATF gassed and cooked those kids just like the Nazis did to the Jews and you did....NOTHING. Hey...grab another "Big Mac'...
You Americans DESERVED to be gassed and tyrannized by your Government because ALL you bloody care about is stuffing your fat guts with as much food as possible and indulging in as much sex, drugs, and violent movies as you are able to.
Americans just sit back Fat, Stupid, and Ignorant....
NolanRogers2 1 year ago
The American government murdered Americans...resist tyranny!
musicprodave 1 year ago
The American government murdered Americans
musicprodave 1 year ago
resistance to the moneypigs
fight the power
FUCK THE USA
ftpnow2010 1 year ago
David Koresh was just another religous nut who used his influence to have sex with multiple woman and young underage girls. The government is an all knowing and all controling power that needs to be stopped by the people of this country. Basically you have to choose the lesser of two evils.
homedepot7033 1 year ago
biggest lie until 9-11
digherbones 1 year ago
You've know for years that they do this to people in other countries whoy wouldn't you think they would do it to you? false pride
lostbuffalo 1 year ago 13
@lostbuffalo There is no hope for justice oversees. You can see from the fascists commenting here, that few in the US are even interested in learning the truth about criminals who persecute them, so don't expect these base cur to have any concern for the innocents killed overseas
FieldMarshalB 1 year ago
and...then afterwards the state department took all evidence away from all branches of law enforcement.
lostbuffalo 1 year ago