@graham640 do you have nothing better to do than post the same stupid comments every couple of months? and being in the army we too pay tax so WTF are you on about? Get a life man.
@ryancunninghamHCF they are, our training is very good (one of the world's few professional armies). We go on peacekeeping missions for the U.N. a lot and in some NATO war games where they gave the Navy SEALS and the Irish Rangers BB Guns and made them fight it out, we won.
@dylanduggan1 No, not really. Ireland's a neutral county and has only been involved in UN peacekeeping. They've been stationed in Lebanon, Kosovo, Chad, Cyprus etc.
But the most amount of Irish soldiers ever killed in combat is only about 26 in Congo.
A WASTE OF THE IRISH TAX PAYERS MONEY AND LETS BE HONEST YE DONT DO A WHOLE PILE EXCEPT COST MONEY 8,000 OF YE GETTING PAID FOR FUCK ALL WHAT A JOKE IF YE HAD TO GO TO WAR YE WOULD ALL BE IN BRICCKINS ON THE SICK
Well you know what it's like flying fighter jets, Oh wait aint got those. Okay, attack heli's? Nope. Fiar enough. Bombers? Never. Darn. Okay you must have this...... trainer planes. Yes of coarse. And why do you train with trainer planes? So you can fly trainer planes. Don't understand why you need brains to fly light training air craft or ancient heli's but hey.
Well you know what it's like flying fighter jets, Oh wait aint got those. Okay, attack heli's? Nope. Fiar enough. Bombers? Never. Darn. Okay you must have this...... trainer planes. Yes of coarse. And why do you train with trainer planes? So you can fly trainer planes. Don't understand why you need brains to fly light training air craft or ancient heli's but hey.
This add is so cool!!!! i remember when this used to be on tv and i was like, ya, thats me! its a far better recruit add then the british one, which is strange :)
sometimes even wonder why we need an army. Coast guard and Air Corps yes, Special forces yes but the rest is just a waste of money. Shouldnt be our job policing third world countries.
thay are the 5th most trained army in the world look it up and i think that does people with all the stupid comments about the army being crap should go get a life if your just gonna be a downer why would you watch this video for my grandad lost his life in the congo when the irish army were peackeeping there he lost his life to save the natives of that village from the terrorists the irish army do a lot more than the some other armies
@corporal747 betrayed your country to join the brits? go to afghan to enjoy killing some farmers in the desert? for a war ireland isnt involved in? your actually a sicko, your the type of creep who enjoys killing people, im glad youve left my army, we dont need traitor sickos like you.
Armies are necessary in all nations. War is never the true answer, but war happens each nation has to have countermeasures. To all those that criticize militaries capacity based on hardware or equipment are very misinformed. More people die from insurgent armies around the world. A soldier's most dangerous weapon is his or her mind. Technology makes the battles easier, but never ensures victory. Politics are the enemy not the individual soldier. Besides yesterdays enemy will be tomorrows ally.
@bhoyjack Whats the Army like ? I am only 12 and I want to join the Army when I'm older , I wanted to join the Royal Marines , but I think you have to become an English citizen .
@Rperkin27 Irish citizens can join the British Armed Forces m8. The Marines are good though the training is tough. You could also consider the Infantry in the Army too. Though, as an ex Infanteer I would say get a trade - ie join the REME or Engineers or Med Corps. Why u not want to join the Irish Army though ?
@bhoyjack I think I have the required skills for the Marines and I willing to push myself to the limit .
The Irish Army isn't consider powerful , I wanna be sent to breach and clear hostage situations , the Royal Marines are a bigger , more powerful , and more active army , Ireland are not at war with anyone at the moment , and If WW3 starts , Ireland will be neutral , But Britain won't , so I would like to fight for my country , I am also English Born .
@Rperkin27 You could aslo consider the Parachute Regiment (not very popular in Ireland though). You can then go for selection for the UKSFSG who work with special forces. You aslo have the RAF Regiment. The Marines are an amphibious unit so you could find yourself on a ship..
if the irish army were any good they would form a coup and overthrow our government,and install a new government. defence forces is suppose to protect us ,please wake up and hopefully the cheif of staff will grow a set of balls and do what has to be done.
I need a bit of insight from someone who's in the PDF. I've just sent off my application for general service and I'm just wondering if anyone can give a few tips on what to expect. Thanks.
My point exactly, we are a small neutral country with no reason for attack helicopters, fighter jets etc, so i dont get peoples reason for having to comment on the fact that we are a small force, we are as large and as well equipped as we are needed to be!
And in the case of invasion, The Irish Defence Forces are allies of the UN, so if the possibilty of invasion of this small country did come up, then like any other country with a small military, the defence forces would recieve help from other countires within the UN. And in relation to a comment saying that this video was a video stolen from the british army, that is rubbish as in the video the soldiers are clearly carrying Steyr Aug Rifles and not the British Army SA-80 Rifle!
Just wanted to comment on the comments being left by people saying that the PDF are underequipped and comments that they are cowards as they do not fight in wars for e.g. Afghanistan, but in fact if these people just read the name of this video for one, the irish army are called the Irish Defence Force and their purpose is to infact defend our country, and to perform small peacekeeping missions, not full scale wars, so therefore we are perfectly equipped and trained to perform these tasks.
@wolfyys are u a member of the PDF/ past member.. where arer u getting all this "detail" u speak of? Cos I am a current member and I know u aint got ur facts right!
@wolfyys@wolfyys are u a member of the PDF/ past member.. where arer u getting all this "detail" u speak of? Cos I am a current member and I know u aint got ur facts right!
@wolfyys dude if u know anythign about the military, u know I cant discuss military details online! or at all with a non DF member! U have to be like fucking 12! The Irish Army is one of the best equipped for what is is tasked in doing, which is Peacekeeping. We are not like the Brit's or Americans who are the war torn nations!
@exranmike hahaha, calling me 12, says one, did I hit a nerve? or just your easily observable inability to actually argue your point without exposing your personal insecurities.
Any country can peace keep, even poor african nations do it, it doesn't mean shit that your military is well equipped - which it isn't.
Its abit hard to be a "well equipped" DEFENCE FORCE if your enemy is BETTER EQUIPPED.
@wolfyys well you must be 12 if you dont have a clue about your own military! Not ever country can peace keep, The US and Brit's are useless at it, as they are a different type of military. Who is Irelands "enemy"? We are one if not the best trained force in the world. I have experianced it first hand and know what they go through and it is very tough! Come back to me when you can call yourself a soldier!
"Come back to me when you can call yourself a soldier!"
comeback when you have an education, at least I've kept this debates intelligence above IQ100, which is more than I can say for you
My family and my self have extensive experience with war ranging from WW1,2 the Falklands and the gulf wars , the fact you cant respect US and British soldiers proves your either an exceedingly shit soldier or the most likely case that your nothing more than a arm-chair general soldier wannabe.
@exranmike The British army are Ireland's enemy as they occupy part of Ireland's national territory and the longest war ever fought by the British army was against Irish resistance fighters - volunteers.
@wolfyys Guerilla warfare has always been our strongest weapon, as your boys are currently finding out in afghanistan, fighter jets and tanks don't guarantee success unless your heart is in the fighting and you're not just trying to make it home in one piece. I actually think it's pointless for a small country to have fighters, tanks etc. because if facing a powerful enemy you'll be too outnumbered for it to make any difference. Look at Georgia. Also, Ireland doesn't have any credible threats.
@RJHOLMES2009 Yea go IDF thats funded by the government and wealthy organizations instead of the IRA Terrorists that fight for thier people's freedom. Ofcourse theres nothing wrong with what I just said it really makes perfect sense doenst it.
Who do you think would fund the IRA if it were the country's military? Thats how every country works. So what if the DF is funded by the government? How else would they get money? Drug dealing and robbery like the IRA?
The IRA don't fight for people's freedom, they fight for land. Most of the people occupying that land are loyalists.
Whereas the DF (pro-treaty) actually fought for the people, which is why the treaty was signed, freeing us in the 26 counties that we occupied.
Who's freedom are they fighting for? Because their not fighting for mine, and the fact that most of Ireland (north and south) hate the IRA and Sinn Fein proves that the IRA are only fighting for themselves!
Your profile says you live in the US, how would you know what it's like in Ireland?
The IRA deal drugs and rob people because they want the money and are used to the lifestyle! They use "fighting for freedom" as an excuse to keep doing it! It's the very same with the UVF!
@murphxbox Nothing wrong with dealing drugs, people who are dumb enough to choose drugs should die anyways, and they rob from the banks that make money for the elite. I belive you are partly right though I do think there are some people in one of the various organizations that do wrong and get away with it.
@ghostmaker105 Freedom? they have already got their independance for Ireland! IRA blows up their own people in cars and buildings, also they go around the world doing bombings they are an uncivilized Military:( oh yeah! lets not forget that the IRA murdered Michael Collins:(
The Irish army are one of the best trained soldiers in the world. The majority of the SAS are Irish Soldiers. The SAS Wore trained by the Irish army. But sure look it took a bunch of irish lads to get rid of a whole country. If we had a population like most of the other countries in the world, we'd have the biggest army by far! But we don't.
The PDF do have some of the best infantry training in the world but the rest of what you said isn't true.
The majority of the SAS are actually Scottish. There's only a handful of Irish in it and their Northern Irish.
The SAS were not trained by the Irish Army. How would the DF train another countries special forces that was founded more then 20 years before our own?
But a major player in the foundation of the SAS was an Irish man called Blair Mayne from the north.
Irish have an actuall Army?? WOW!! I honestly thought it was just a defence force and they would be like just blown away in the first minute of a battle. Excuse mt spell. Irish are awesome now i see this. Is Irish a HUGE Country?
well i think we can all agree that the ground troops are well trainned and equipped ok ? ... well unfortunately i think we can all say regardless of being a defence force are navy and air corps are pathetic ? what`s the point of having well trainned troops but not a navy or air corps to back them up which we all know is very important for security of ground troops . the bottom line is that the irish people and government look at the irish army as a joke .. sad sad :-(
ii agree mate. they look at them as if they can't handle bigger tasks, as if they're dole-collectors with guns, they are honourable men and women, they deserve to be held in a higher regard than that.
@CapitanFiro We the people of Gibralta, do not agree with you! Secondly. Eire, Northern Ireland, Gibralta and the UK are all part of the EU and will eventually become a United States of Europe! Try to read and get out more than you do!
Irish n proud dont take bak what we ever did, we protected our counrty n kept most of it but i dont hold a grudge against anyone the past should stay the past and and we should all think abut the future
dont kno wat to join irish or british army!i want to experience combat and see the world so id proably go to the brits.... the irish army does fuk all except peacekeepin!any ideas?
ah ye, join the brits if u want some combat. all you'll do wit defence forces right now is Chad and its not even that easy to get there, we only have a few hundred troops there and probly be over by the time u join, lol
my brothers was in de royal irish of britain reg but is now in de royal sniper reg or sumfink like it and he fired one of dose rifles and sed dere really nice and light
and i fired one wit blanks in athlone wen i was younger
ireland are active in the globe dude there one of the worlds top peacekeepers if we merge with britian we would be disgracing our ancestors who fought for ireland ireland will never again be in the british commenwealth apart from northern ireland
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you dirty kiddie raping catholic fuck i hope where ever your stinking catholic ONLY IDF is sent alot of those die and die are horrible esp ones with kids lol ITS FACT THEY HAVE BANNED PROTESTANTS from it fact no surrender 1690 come the civil war in ulster the streets will turn with catholic blood lol ftp1690
Ireland is not and can not afford to be an insular state along the lines of 17th Century China and Japan. Ireland is not powerful enough to remain truly neutral which is why Ireland never has been truly neutral. Ireland has always had to align its foreign policy keeping in mind that it is under the shadow of one of the world's great powers. Also Ireland will only gain influence in foreign policy if it actually plays an active role in world events, even if proportionate to its size.
Nothing in the history of the world suggests that that is either plausible or true. Warfare is the primary means by which history has advanced and developed over the past 4,000 years. Without warfare there would have been no spur for technological development, and we would still be living in caves. Finally, militaristic societies tend to be more disciplined and much more successful than ones less capable of fighting wars. All in all, I am afraid that trade and talk is superfluous.
Wars are a mistake only if you dislike the outcome, i.e. you do not believe that it was worth the cost. There are those who want to eliminate money as well as armies, but the fact is that neither measure is conducive to civilization.
I am trying to see the way that you are looking at this. You oppose war because it is wasteful or bloody, I presume? However, I am looking at it from the perspective of human history, which has been created more by warfare than by any other factor, a trend that continues unabated. I think that man would have to turn into something else before he would cease warring. To quote Homer; 'Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than war'. I view pacifism as a pointless irrelevancy.
I agree that it is important not to repeat the mistakes of the past. However I would state that ignoring a country's military defense would be to repeat among the gravest of historical errors. To quote the SAS's 'six P's'; 'Prior planning prevents piss poor performance.'
War is a waste, war is tragic, war is inhumane, and war is inevitable.
Like death and taxes, we may not like war, but also like death and taxes, war are inevitable. We cannot opt out of any of the three. We have to make the best of a bad world.
So to minimise the risk of war, and maximise the chance of winning, prepare for war. Generals aren't warmongers, they are pragmatic. It is the politicians like George W Bush who have never been to war who are the warmongers.
@royalcourtier next time, he should invite saddam to tea and ask him nicely to stop killing his OWN PEOPLE, then go have donuts and cofee with osama and ask him to plz stop trying to destroy the western world. just out of morbid curiosity, what would u have done? plz dont answer all of the above.
@Sexisttroll i think u should be in ur backyard waiting for the mothership while u argue in ur own mind how 9/11 was an inside job and how global warming killed big foot.
@Mike11069 yeah I guess there were weapons of mass destruction that Saddam disappeared with his fairy dust and how the drastic climate changes are caused by Zeus who is mad at china for being communist...
@Sexisttroll yea, too bad that the emails proving that global warming scientists coordinated their false results and the fact that the climate change numbers are not that drastic were created by the evil republicans who want to take over the world with help from the contras who did not allow the commies to spread the goods and beauty of commusnism.
Actually, sorry. Declaration of war is in the next section of the constitution "Government"
Article 3, paragraph one,
"War shall not be declared and the state shall not participate in any war save with the assent of Dail Eireann."
So concerning this, this applies to the UN missions. The irish forces aren't fighting a war.
Eitherway, the Army should only be used under what the constitution says. No more dead Irish soliders for wars in places where peace can only come from within.
IDF troops should be brought back, and a strong defense established. The idea of having soldiers around the world in peacekeeping missions, which are controversial in many ways.
i.e. who supplied the weapons to the people who the Irish are there to maintain the peace, and risking their lives.
Was it America's Arms industry or may be Russia.
If I were a TD, with these views, I'd make them known.
I love the way the Brits think superior numbers and tech will win it for 'em. During the War of Independence, 15,000 British Troops couldn't defeat 100 IRA volunteers under Tom Barry.
Think of what 8,500 professional Irish soldiers would do to them in a guerilla war.
Yes, but militarily Barry's flying column like all the others inflicted negligible damage on the British Army. The IRA did not win anything close to what could be termed a military victory, and when the Truce was agreed Collins stated that the IRA was within two weeks of total defeat. Also if you look at Malaya and Kenya you will see that the British have become the best anti-guerrilla fighters in the world. Against the world's most professional army a guerrilla war by Ireland would be futile.
The point is that the British have improved a lot since the Boer War, even though ultimately they did defeat the Boers. The Troubles were difficult because it was really a civil war as well as a British-Irish conflict, and was on domestic British territory so there were severe operational restrictions, and even so the IRA never came close to achieving any sort of military victory. That is not to say that the IRA were not one of the most effective guerrilla armies of the 20th Century.
@Cepeda97 If we didn't have much of an army how couldd
We beat the British pfff.
MYNAMEISTHERANDOMEST 1 month ago
not much of an army
Cepeda97 2 months ago
@graham640 do you have nothing better to do than post the same stupid comments every couple of months? and being in the army we too pay tax so WTF are you on about? Get a life man.
Thebestusername90 3 months ago
This is what they do when they aren't picking potatoes!
sgtliam10 5 months ago
@sgtliam10 lol
TheImmortalWeapon 3 months ago
Wonder if are lads are good in battle
ryancunninghamHCF 5 months ago
@ryancunninghamHCF Depends. What country do you have in mind and how long is Irish infantry training?
TheSirPrise 5 months ago
@ryancunninghamHCF they are, our training is very good (one of the world's few professional armies). We go on peacekeeping missions for the U.N. a lot and in some NATO war games where they gave the Navy SEALS and the Irish Rangers BB Guns and made them fight it out, we won.
TheImmortalWeapon 3 months ago
i am from colombia and i love ireland , my hero is michael collins .
krisnnaabraham 6 months ago
Who do we fight ?
Rperkin27 9 months ago
does irish soldiers ever see intense comb at.....info is much appreciated
dylanduggan1 9 months ago
@dylanduggan1 No, not really. Ireland's a neutral county and has only been involved in UN peacekeeping. They've been stationed in Lebanon, Kosovo, Chad, Cyprus etc.
But the most amount of Irish soldiers ever killed in combat is only about 26 in Congo.
PlanetAgnostic 8 months ago
A WASTE OF THE IRISH TAX PAYERS MONEY AND LETS BE HONEST YE DONT DO A WHOLE PILE EXCEPT COST MONEY 8,000 OF YE GETTING PAID FOR FUCK ALL WHAT A JOKE IF YE HAD TO GO TO WAR YE WOULD ALL BE IN BRICCKINS ON THE SICK
graham640 10 months ago
@graham640 The IDF is like an insurance policy, when you stop paying us, thats when you will need us the most
nudeadnation 9 months ago
I love that music :D
Doylerization 11 months ago
Wait, so on their recruitment advert, they show a guy dying?
astrotrain21 11 months ago
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Well you know what it's like flying fighter jets, Oh wait aint got those. Okay, attack heli's? Nope. Fiar enough. Bombers? Never. Darn. Okay you must have this...... trainer planes. Yes of coarse. And why do you train with trainer planes? So you can fly trainer planes. Don't understand why you need brains to fly light training air craft or ancient heli's but hey.
mrParhamPFC 11 months ago
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Well you know what it's like flying fighter jets, Oh wait aint got those. Okay, attack heli's? Nope. Fiar enough. Bombers? Never. Darn. Okay you must have this...... trainer planes. Yes of coarse. And why do you train with trainer planes? So you can fly trainer planes. Don't understand why you need brains to fly light training air craft or ancient heli's but hey.
mrParhamPFC 11 months ago
6 dislikes..??? wtf there 6 cunts that didn get in because there not gud enough or they just like there drugs to much fucking wasters
douie07 11 months ago
This add is so cool!!!! i remember when this used to be on tv and i was like, ya, thats me! its a far better recruit add then the british one, which is strange :)
MsSharku 11 months ago
waste of tax payers money only good for going on the sick
graham640 1 year ago
sometimes even wonder why we need an army. Coast guard and Air Corps yes, Special forces yes but the rest is just a waste of money. Shouldnt be our job policing third world countries.
ivangrozny27 1 year ago
I am thinking of applying for the cadets does anyone have any ideas to help me.?
EvanKearns 1 year ago
It's videos like this that make me feel proud to be Irish
jonnyco97 1 year ago
thay are the 5th most trained army in the world look it up and i think that does people with all the stupid comments about the army being crap should go get a life if your just gonna be a downer why would you watch this video for my grandad lost his life in the congo when the irish army were peackeeping there he lost his life to save the natives of that village from the terrorists the irish army do a lot more than the some other armies
12345TheRonan 1 year ago
@12345TheRonan were can we fine rhis info?
irishchappy17 1 year ago
Can the song b found anywhere online? Any one know it's name?
elnumerounobohsman 1 year ago
I remember this vad a couple of years back. Nearly recruited me!!
DHSEASON4 1 year ago
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corporal747 1 year ago
@corporal747 betrayed your country to join the brits? go to afghan to enjoy killing some farmers in the desert? for a war ireland isnt involved in? your actually a sicko, your the type of creep who enjoys killing people, im glad youve left my army, we dont need traitor sickos like you.
AnnoyingBeast 1 year ago
TICK CUNTS DONT DO NOTIN BUT PACK SANDBAGS
youtubspys 1 year ago
@youtubspys your the tick cunt watchin them do it and then commentin on it...they are some of the best trained soldiers in the world
The2009Lt 1 year ago
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Respect from the USA honor the dead, love the living and defend the unborn.
cwood4ever 1 year ago
Zivila Ireland! Greetings from Serbia!
Helios452 1 year ago
In war, If you face the Irish army in a bar, they will kick your ass! cause they are drunks!
rabies79 1 year ago
i miss thes ads,fuckin amzing so they are
birdydeathPSN 1 year ago
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id rather spend my time on a battlefield then sit in an office
zoomaninthehouse 1 year ago
Armies are necessary in all nations. War is never the true answer, but war happens each nation has to have countermeasures. To all those that criticize militaries capacity based on hardware or equipment are very misinformed. More people die from insurgent armies around the world. A soldier's most dangerous weapon is his or her mind. Technology makes the battles easier, but never ensures victory. Politics are the enemy not the individual soldier. Besides yesterdays enemy will be tomorrows ally.
dnieves1418 1 year ago
I'm in British Army and worked with the Irish Army in Kosovo. I found them very proffessional and a great bunch of lads despite Irish-Anglo history.
bhoyjack 1 year ago 18
@bhoyjack Whats the Army like ? I am only 12 and I want to join the Army when I'm older , I wanted to join the Royal Marines , but I think you have to become an English citizen .
Rperkin27 9 months ago
@Rperkin27 Irish citizens can join the British Armed Forces m8. The Marines are good though the training is tough. You could also consider the Infantry in the Army too. Though, as an ex Infanteer I would say get a trade - ie join the REME or Engineers or Med Corps. Why u not want to join the Irish Army though ?
bhoyjack 9 months ago
@bhoyjack I think I have the required skills for the Marines and I willing to push myself to the limit .
The Irish Army isn't consider powerful , I wanna be sent to breach and clear hostage situations , the Royal Marines are a bigger , more powerful , and more active army , Ireland are not at war with anyone at the moment , and If WW3 starts , Ireland will be neutral , But Britain won't , so I would like to fight for my country , I am also English Born .
Rperkin27 9 months ago
@Rperkin27 You could aslo consider the Parachute Regiment (not very popular in Ireland though). You can then go for selection for the UKSFSG who work with special forces. You aslo have the RAF Regiment. The Marines are an amphibious unit so you could find yourself on a ship..
bhoyjack 9 months ago
@bhoyjack i am great full that you said they are professional but what did you mean about our history? the history of which you invaded us?
emmetgb 8 months ago
@emmetgb I meant that despite the history between Ireland and England the Irish lads were fine with us - there was no animosity..
bhoyjack 8 months ago
@bhoyjack ooh ok.
emmetgb 8 months ago
lol the Irish army that funny
496gonfishin 1 year ago
@496gonfishin shut the hell up.
borus99 1 year ago
if the irish army were any good they would form a coup and overthrow our government,and install a new government. defence forces is suppose to protect us ,please wake up and hopefully the cheif of staff will grow a set of balls and do what has to be done.
subsoil007 1 year ago
@subsoil007 This happened before, thats is why the DF are so small, to prevent it from happening again
exranmike 1 year ago
@exranmike they still could take it down without firing a single round.. all it takes is balls!!
subsoil007 1 year ago
I need a bit of insight from someone who's in the PDF. I've just sent off my application for general service and I'm just wondering if anyone can give a few tips on what to expect. Thanks.
DJC11757 1 year ago
some serious mis-spending by the govt. outdated equipment being used while money is being mis-spent.
could use vessels and aircraft if only for rescue purposes.
HLecterPHD 1 year ago
My point exactly, we are a small neutral country with no reason for attack helicopters, fighter jets etc, so i dont get peoples reason for having to comment on the fact that we are a small force, we are as large and as well equipped as we are needed to be!
IrishPDF4Life 1 year ago
And in the case of invasion, The Irish Defence Forces are allies of the UN, so if the possibilty of invasion of this small country did come up, then like any other country with a small military, the defence forces would recieve help from other countires within the UN. And in relation to a comment saying that this video was a video stolen from the british army, that is rubbish as in the video the soldiers are clearly carrying Steyr Aug Rifles and not the British Army SA-80 Rifle!
IrishPDF4Life 1 year ago
Just wanted to comment on the comments being left by people saying that the PDF are underequipped and comments that they are cowards as they do not fight in wars for e.g. Afghanistan, but in fact if these people just read the name of this video for one, the irish army are called the Irish Defence Force and their purpose is to infact defend our country, and to perform small peacekeeping missions, not full scale wars, so therefore we are perfectly equipped and trained to perform these tasks.
IrishPDF4Life 1 year ago
the biggest problem with the IDF is its under equipped. If any country invaded ireland they simply dont have the gear to repel them
Fighter jets? - no
Attack Helicopters? - no
Tanks? - no
Advanced Anti-Aircraft systems? - no
They do posses the Javelin anti-tank launcher and very short range anti-aircraft systems, and the mowag piranha, but lack any other advanced weaponry.
While having a huge army is not important for a defence force, having a well equipped one is vital.
wolfyys 1 year ago
@wolfyys u have no idea what u are talking about mate!
exranmike 1 year ago
@exranmike yeah, i just talked in great detail about why they are under equipped, but hey! I dont know what im on about!
retard
wolfyys 1 year ago
@wolfyys are u a member of the PDF/ past member.. where arer u getting all this "detail" u speak of? Cos I am a current member and I know u aint got ur facts right!
exranmike 1 year ago
@wolfyys @wolfyys are u a member of the PDF/ past member.. where arer u getting all this "detail" u speak of? Cos I am a current member and I know u aint got ur facts right!
exranmike 1 year ago
@exranmike what facts might they be then?
wolfyys 1 year ago
@wolfyys dude if u know anythign about the military, u know I cant discuss military details online! or at all with a non DF member! U have to be like fucking 12! The Irish Army is one of the best equipped for what is is tasked in doing, which is Peacekeeping. We are not like the Brit's or Americans who are the war torn nations!
exranmike 1 year ago
@exranmike hahaha, calling me 12, says one, did I hit a nerve? or just your easily observable inability to actually argue your point without exposing your personal insecurities.
Any country can peace keep, even poor african nations do it, it doesn't mean shit that your military is well equipped - which it isn't.
Its abit hard to be a "well equipped" DEFENCE FORCE if your enemy is BETTER EQUIPPED.
wolfyys 1 year ago
@wolfyys well you must be 12 if you dont have a clue about your own military! Not ever country can peace keep, The US and Brit's are useless at it, as they are a different type of military. Who is Irelands "enemy"? We are one if not the best trained force in the world. I have experianced it first hand and know what they go through and it is very tough! Come back to me when you can call yourself a soldier!
exranmike 1 year ago
@exranmike
"well you must be 12 if you dont have a clue about your own military!"
I clearly know more than you
"ot ever country can peace keep, The US and Brit's are useless at it"
And you call yourself a soldier, who are you kidding?
"Who is Irelands "enemy"?"
anyone can be your enemy dipshit, otherwise defence forces would be unnecessary
"We are one if not the best trained force in the world"
Your opinion, well trained?, probably, but the best?, I highly doubt it
wolfyys 1 year ago
@wolfyys i completely agree mate ,.. our basic trained sodier is more advanced and better trained then ths US soldier .
TheMrLunchbox 1 year ago
@exranmike
"Come back to me when you can call yourself a soldier!"
comeback when you have an education, at least I've kept this debates intelligence above IQ100, which is more than I can say for you
My family and my self have extensive experience with war ranging from WW1,2 the Falklands and the gulf wars , the fact you cant respect US and British soldiers proves your either an exceedingly shit soldier or the most likely case that your nothing more than a arm-chair general soldier wannabe.
wolfyys 1 year ago
@exranmike The British army are Ireland's enemy as they occupy part of Ireland's national territory and the longest war ever fought by the British army was against Irish resistance fighters - volunteers.
TomBarry192I 1 year ago
@wolfyys Guerilla warfare has always been our strongest weapon, as your boys are currently finding out in afghanistan, fighter jets and tanks don't guarantee success unless your heart is in the fighting and you're not just trying to make it home in one piece. I actually think it's pointless for a small country to have fighters, tanks etc. because if facing a powerful enemy you'll be too outnumbered for it to make any difference. Look at Georgia. Also, Ireland doesn't have any credible threats.
alieu156 1 year ago 6
@alieu156 very true
TheImmortalWeapon 3 months ago
I am glad to see there's is an actual standing Irish Military instead of the IRA Terrorists;) Go Irish Defense
RJHOLMES2009 1 year ago
@RJHOLMES2009 Yea go IDF thats funded by the government and wealthy organizations instead of the IRA Terrorists that fight for thier people's freedom. Ofcourse theres nothing wrong with what I just said it really makes perfect sense doenst it.
ghostmaker105 1 year ago
@ghostmaker105
Who do you think would fund the IRA if it were the country's military? Thats how every country works. So what if the DF is funded by the government? How else would they get money? Drug dealing and robbery like the IRA?
The IRA don't fight for people's freedom, they fight for land. Most of the people occupying that land are loyalists.
Whereas the DF (pro-treaty) actually fought for the people, which is why the treaty was signed, freeing us in the 26 counties that we occupied.
murphxbox 1 year ago
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ghostmaker105 1 year ago
@ghostmaker105
Who's freedom are they fighting for? Because their not fighting for mine, and the fact that most of Ireland (north and south) hate the IRA and Sinn Fein proves that the IRA are only fighting for themselves!
Your profile says you live in the US, how would you know what it's like in Ireland?
The IRA deal drugs and rob people because they want the money and are used to the lifestyle! They use "fighting for freedom" as an excuse to keep doing it! It's the very same with the UVF!
murphxbox 1 year ago
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ghostmaker105 1 year ago
@murphxbox Nothing wrong with dealing drugs, people who are dumb enough to choose drugs should die anyways, and they rob from the banks that make money for the elite. I belive you are partly right though I do think there are some people in one of the various organizations that do wrong and get away with it.
ghostmaker105 1 year ago
@ghostmaker105 Freedom? they have already got their independance for Ireland! IRA blows up their own people in cars and buildings, also they go around the world doing bombings they are an uncivilized Military:( oh yeah! lets not forget that the IRA murdered Michael Collins:(
RJHOLMES2009 1 year ago
the irish military uniforms are pretty cool.
the best Nation badges on the shoulders.
christurkthebrave 1 year ago
Brill Vid! I love it! :)
FatalityG15 1 year ago
whats the song ? lol
bitesizesean1 1 year ago
UN Helicoptor in Irish vid?.. ?..??
XkobyX 1 year ago
@XkobyX Ireland is one of the largest contributors to UN peacekeeping missions.
warpedcomedy 1 year ago
@XkobyX irish troops operate as a UN peacekeeping force
christurkthebrave 1 year ago
The Irish army are one of the best trained soldiers in the world. The majority of the SAS are Irish Soldiers. The SAS Wore trained by the Irish army. But sure look it took a bunch of irish lads to get rid of a whole country. If we had a population like most of the other countries in the world, we'd have the biggest army by far! But we don't.
BuffaStuffa18 1 year ago
@BuffaStuffa18
The PDF do have some of the best infantry training in the world but the rest of what you said isn't true.
The majority of the SAS are actually Scottish. There's only a handful of Irish in it and their Northern Irish.
The SAS were not trained by the Irish Army. How would the DF train another countries special forces that was founded more then 20 years before our own?
But a major player in the foundation of the SAS was an Irish man called Blair Mayne from the north.
murphxbox 1 year ago
@BuffaStuffa18
If you mean that Ireland has more soldiers per every 1000 people than every other country that also isn't true.
Ireland is actually average with about 6 soldiers per every 1000 people (including reserves).
If we had the same population size as say the UK, then the UK's military would still be bigger because they have 11 soldiers for every 1000 people.
The country with the most soldiers per 1000 people is Estonia with 175! (reserve included)
murphxbox 1 year ago
what do they do? like what was the last combat scenario they were in?
Dmajorproductions 1 year ago
@Dmajorproductions
You won't find much info on many Irish battles as it's not in the public domain, but there are a few that the DF have released info on.
The largest being the Seige of Jadotville in the Congo in the 60's
150 Irish Soldiers went against over 4,000 Katangese troops and French/Belgian mercs who had heavy artillery and a jet
The Irish killed over 300 and wounded over 1000 of them and received a few wounded, but were forced to surrender when they ran out of ammo.
google it
murphxbox 1 year ago
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ghostmaker105 1 year ago
@Dmajorproductions Chad last year.
FeederAndSpurs 1 year ago
Irish have an actuall Army?? WOW!! I honestly thought it was just a defence force and they would be like just blown away in the first minute of a battle. Excuse mt spell. Irish are awesome now i see this. Is Irish a HUGE Country?
FatalityG15 1 year ago
taibhsí nó laoich, TAIBHSÍ
ruger189 1 year ago
well i think we can all agree that the ground troops are well trainned and equipped ok ? ... well unfortunately i think we can all say regardless of being a defence force are navy and air corps are pathetic ? what`s the point of having well trainned troops but not a navy or air corps to back them up which we all know is very important for security of ground troops . the bottom line is that the irish people and government look at the irish army as a joke .. sad sad :-(
HIURNAMEISTOMMY 1 year ago 2
ii agree mate. they look at them as if they can't handle bigger tasks, as if they're dole-collectors with guns, they are honourable men and women, they deserve to be held in a higher regard than that.
IamDaReAlSeaN 1 year ago
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FUCK UK we need Spanish IRA for recovery Gibraltar is the only language with UK ...Pirates !
CapitanFiro 1 year ago
@CapitanFiro We the people of Gibralta, do not agree with you! Secondly. Eire, Northern Ireland, Gibralta and the UK are all part of the EU and will eventually become a United States of Europe! Try to read and get out more than you do!
ericartwo1 1 year ago
Irish n proud dont take bak what we ever did, we protected our counrty n kept most of it but i dont hold a grudge against anyone the past should stay the past and and we should all think abut the future
ARDINM004 2 years ago 8
dont kno wat to join irish or british army!i want to experience combat and see the world so id proably go to the brits.... the irish army does fuk all except peacekeepin!any ideas?
scullyEire 2 years ago
Irish army has vaulenteers that go to to irag n other places we get some action too
ARDINM004 2 years ago
@scullyEire yep just see another bodybag coming home, have fun
bountyc 2 years ago
@scullyEire join the British army if you want combat but you got to consider the Death rate's between Britain and Ireland.
JokeTimes101 2 years ago
Join the Irish Army because you will be treated like a dog in the BA.
chairde 1 year ago
ah ye, join the brits if u want some combat. all you'll do wit defence forces right now is Chad and its not even that easy to get there, we only have a few hundred troops there and probly be over by the time u join, lol
Nikon05 1 year ago
His cavalry is numerous but cant ride and his infantry, except the Irish, cant fight. Confederate Col. E. P. Alexander commenting on the Union forces
oregand 2 years ago 2
not bad a bit long though
i got a ?
wats a common side arm for the irish military
spino2000100 2 years ago
Standard side-arm is the Hk USP, although usually only NCO's and Officers carry a side-arm.
Service rifle is the Steyr AUG
murphxbox 2 years ago
well lads will someone tell me are the RDF recruiting as usual cause i hope to join next year.
009sully 2 years ago
nope. cheap shower of cunts.
kenno83 2 years ago
right who's for a bacon explosion?
prelan 2 years ago
in athlone barracks dat was
ohh and dey also have a good rocket launcher dey use i think its a 72.
theoflanagan 2 years ago
ye and der qiute good rifles.
my brothers was in de royal irish of britain reg but is now in de royal sniper reg or sumfink like it and he fired one of dose rifles and sed dere really nice and light
and i fired one wit blanks in athlone wen i was younger
theoflanagan 2 years ago
well dat woz shite
theoflanagan 2 years ago
you no a gun is good if its banned in the usa...^^
frenett1 2 years ago
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Ireland should merge its defence force and become part of the British army, Navy and airforce.
Its been too long ireland as a neutral nation, it time Ireland becomes active in the globe
FlytheUnionJack 2 years ago
No to that.
Ireland will never serve along with Britain.
I say that and I live in England myself.
There should be no Army, but that is the reality.
ocean3da 2 years ago
tree hugger
ec5 2 years ago
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Why? Because I say no to Armies.
ocean3da 2 years ago
armies exist because they are necessary
ec5 2 years ago 23
Yes, but there is always the war racket.
ocean3da 2 years ago
ireland are active in the globe dude there one of the worlds top peacekeepers if we merge with britian we would be disgracing our ancestors who fought for ireland ireland will never again be in the british commenwealth apart from northern ireland
BoredProductions43 2 years ago
That is true, I supose you are right, peacekeeping is a noble task and better to do it under the Irish name than that if the UK.
respect from UK
FlytheUnionJack 2 years ago
The UK is the best in the intier world mate!
dancingdruggy 2 years ago
fly the union jack i see where ur coming from with the whole neutral thing but merging with the united kingdom never again
DLS95 2 years ago
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you dirty kiddie raping catholic fuck i hope where ever your stinking catholic ONLY IDF is sent alot of those die and die are horrible esp ones with kids lol ITS FACT THEY HAVE BANNED PROTESTANTS from it fact no surrender 1690 come the civil war in ulster the streets will turn with catholic blood lol ftp1690
rob39uk 2 years ago
@rob39uk hows that got anything to do with wat i said
DLS95 2 years ago
Wanker ! You know fuck all about our history.
Theladiesman04 2 years ago
Sounds like a load of nonsense, the gov supported the Iraq thing. And the landing of US planes.
ocean3da 2 years ago
Oh how terrible, seeing how great Saddam Hussein was for Iraq and the greater principles of 'international justice and morality'!
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
@Kampfer1445
But it was never there problem, it did not concern Ireland's nation security.
ocean3da 2 years ago
Ireland is not and can not afford to be an insular state along the lines of 17th Century China and Japan. Ireland is not powerful enough to remain truly neutral which is why Ireland never has been truly neutral. Ireland has always had to align its foreign policy keeping in mind that it is under the shadow of one of the world's great powers. Also Ireland will only gain influence in foreign policy if it actually plays an active role in world events, even if proportionate to its size.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
@Kampfer1445
Ireland only needs to trade and talk. Not intefere. Is that too much to ask the world?
ocean3da 2 years ago
Nothing in the history of the world suggests that that is either plausible or true. Warfare is the primary means by which history has advanced and developed over the past 4,000 years. Without warfare there would have been no spur for technological development, and we would still be living in caves. Finally, militaristic societies tend to be more disciplined and much more successful than ones less capable of fighting wars. All in all, I am afraid that trade and talk is superfluous.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
Kampfer1445
That is true.
But there is always another and better way.
Ron Paul goes on about that, the Republican. From Texas.
Most wars are a big mistake. There is more to lose down that road, we all know that.
ocean3da 2 years ago
Wars are a mistake only if you dislike the outcome, i.e. you do not believe that it was worth the cost. There are those who want to eliminate money as well as armies, but the fact is that neither measure is conducive to civilization.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
@Kampfer1445
You don't want to or can't see the way I look at this.
Improvements are always needed. We should all try that.
ocean3da 2 years ago
I am trying to see the way that you are looking at this. You oppose war because it is wasteful or bloody, I presume? However, I am looking at it from the perspective of human history, which has been created more by warfare than by any other factor, a trend that continues unabated. I think that man would have to turn into something else before he would cease warring. To quote Homer; 'Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than war'. I view pacifism as a pointless irrelevancy.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
@Kampfer1445
Yes and I said you are right about both.
But at the same time, it is best to put the past aside, and try and not repeat the mistakes, even with benefits.
ocean3da 2 years ago
I agree that it is important not to repeat the mistakes of the past. However I would state that ignoring a country's military defense would be to repeat among the gravest of historical errors. To quote the SAS's 'six P's'; 'Prior planning prevents piss poor performance.'
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
War is a waste, war is tragic, war is inhumane, and war is inevitable.
Like death and taxes, we may not like war, but also like death and taxes, war are inevitable. We cannot opt out of any of the three. We have to make the best of a bad world.
So to minimise the risk of war, and maximise the chance of winning, prepare for war. Generals aren't warmongers, they are pragmatic. It is the politicians like George W Bush who have never been to war who are the warmongers.
royalcourtier 2 years ago 20
True, Generals are the ones who write up the quotes of history on this subject.
ocean3da 2 years ago
@royalcourtier dude! FUCK YEA!!!! right on the nose bro.
Dmajorproductions 1 year ago
@royalcourtier George W. Bush did go to war when he was younger...please learn your facts.
Hellscope1 1 year ago
@royalcourtier war s not inhumane . people have since the start of time . war start wen 1 caveman trough a rock at a other caveman
gerrarddonn 1 year ago
@royalcourtier next time, he should invite saddam to tea and ask him nicely to stop killing his OWN PEOPLE, then go have donuts and cofee with osama and ask him to plz stop trying to destroy the western world. just out of morbid curiosity, what would u have done? plz dont answer all of the above.
Mike11069 1 year ago
@Mike11069 I think Bush and Osama already had that conversation.... but for the exact opposite thing....sorry just had to answer..
Sexisttroll 1 year ago
@Sexisttroll i think u should be in ur backyard waiting for the mothership while u argue in ur own mind how 9/11 was an inside job and how global warming killed big foot.
Mike11069 1 year ago
@Mike11069 yeah I guess there were weapons of mass destruction that Saddam disappeared with his fairy dust and how the drastic climate changes are caused by Zeus who is mad at china for being communist...
Sexisttroll 1 year ago
@Sexisttroll yea, too bad that the emails proving that global warming scientists coordinated their false results and the fact that the climate change numbers are not that drastic were created by the evil republicans who want to take over the world with help from the contras who did not allow the commies to spread the goods and beauty of commusnism.
Mike11069 1 year ago
@Mike11069 yey I'm glad that u agree!! :D
Sexisttroll 1 year ago
@royalcourtier brillant quote man, is that one of your own
papadoc711 1 year ago
@royalcourtier Just as well we only do peacekeeping
Eire32FukDaBrits 1 year ago
@royalcourtier <Bush was a fucking pilot in vietnam.....
TheDillchipset 1 year ago
@royalcourtier the Irish army does not fight wars my friend they peace keep the reason for all the training is encase retaliation is necessary
12345TheRonan 1 year ago
UN missions aren't included in the constitution.
It does state under the "international relations" section, treaties, the internation law.
My problem is this, paragraph one,
"Ireland affirms its devotion to the ideal of peace and friendly co-operation amongst nations founded on international justice and morality."
ocean3da 2 years ago
Actually, sorry. Declaration of war is in the next section of the constitution "Government"
Article 3, paragraph one,
"War shall not be declared and the state shall not participate in any war save with the assent of Dail Eireann."
So concerning this, this applies to the UN missions. The irish forces aren't fighting a war.
Eitherway, the Army should only be used under what the constitution says. No more dead Irish soliders for wars in places where peace can only come from within.
ocean3da 2 years ago
If makes no sense, more people In ireland should question this.
It would be nice, if one day I picked up the newspaper, the Irish independent, and it said something along those lines of scaling down the missions.
ocean3da 2 years ago
IDF troops should be brought back, and a strong defense established. The idea of having soldiers around the world in peacekeeping missions, which are controversial in many ways.
i.e. who supplied the weapons to the people who the Irish are there to maintain the peace, and risking their lives.
Was it America's Arms industry or may be Russia.
If I were a TD, with these views, I'd make them known.
ocean3da 2 years ago
I love the way the Brits think superior numbers and tech will win it for 'em. During the War of Independence, 15,000 British Troops couldn't defeat 100 IRA volunteers under Tom Barry.
Think of what 8,500 professional Irish soldiers would do to them in a guerilla war.
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
That would be unconstitutional.
Total war would make no sense.
And lastly, if Ireland was neutral. It would not have US planes land at shannon.
ocean3da 2 years ago
Your 100% right. Total war wouldn't make sense, guerilla war on the other hand...
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
But that is the point, a war like that from ireland would be illegal. If the republic is too last. Full allegiance to the constitution is necessary.
ocean3da 2 years ago
I'm unaware, what exactly does the constitution say on that matter?
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
To raise or maintain a military Armed force has to be voted in the Dail, officially that is where the declaration of war is done.
No one or any area of government can that be done. So a terrorist war is an illegal one. There we go.
Minister for defence is the commander in chief officially.
Article 15,
Section 6, provision or paragraph 1,
"The right to raise and maintain military or armed forces is vested exclusively in the oireachtas ."
ocean3da 2 years ago
Yes, but militarily Barry's flying column like all the others inflicted negligible damage on the British Army. The IRA did not win anything close to what could be termed a military victory, and when the Truce was agreed Collins stated that the IRA was within two weeks of total defeat. Also if you look at Malaya and Kenya you will see that the British have become the best anti-guerrilla fighters in the world. Against the world's most professional army a guerrilla war by Ireland would be futile.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
The Boer wars and the troubles say different, but I guess we'll never know.
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
The point is that the British have improved a lot since the Boer War, even though ultimately they did defeat the Boers. The Troubles were difficult because it was really a civil war as well as a British-Irish conflict, and was on domestic British territory so there were severe operational restrictions, and even so the IRA never came close to achieving any sort of military victory. That is not to say that the IRA were not one of the most effective guerrilla armies of the 20th Century.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago