HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
well...what is Gumdo, anyway??? I've never heard it. Historically, Korea has been a vassal state of China more than 1000 years. Why did Korean need sword battle?
Wow, all the Japanese people are hating on this cause they have an inferiority complex or something. While it is true that Gumdo comes from Kendo. It is not like Japanese don't learn from Koreans. Even the Japanese Kanji writing system, Buddhism, architecture, agriculture, metallurgy, and DNA Lineage came from the Korean Peninsula.
It is so funny watching the Japanese hating on their Korean neighbors while they themselves shares so much in common.
Please stop comparing Korea and Japan as if one culture is stealing from the other. Of course there are similarities in both these cultures. Japan did rule Korea for some time and the two countries are neighbours.
Harping on Korea for Gumdo is like harping on Canada for drinking coffee, Canada did not invent coffee but a 'Double Double’ (coffee two creams two sugars) is part of our cultural identity none the less.
Gumdo is now part of Korean culture. They have made it there own.
Korean Gumdo is very dangerous art,since they let children hold wooden swords or imitation Katana easily.In Japan we can't use its easily till master give the pardon.why Kendo use bamboo sword?since even just wooden or imitation sword can kill.if the children kill other people slily,could you accept the blame? Korean Gumdo show the brassy performances and get many student and money teaching in hazard without any definite knowledge.this is serious problem for society.
You are good fellow, I see that. No offence to you. BUT I still do not accpet this movie-like flashy move of Gumdo which use Japanese stuff and do not show respect to its tradition. Kendo is not the sport, it is traditional martial art rooted hundred of years of samurai combat, not like Gumdo with several decades old history. If you ever see Kendo guys who play such way shown here to magnet new players, let me know, I know you will never find those in Kendo.
this is not a copy of kendo. they r not wearing hakama, bogu, and shinai. their movements have no resemblance to the japanese way of sword (kendo). no one is claiming that 'haidong gumdo' and kendo are the samething so i dont know where u get the idea of calling it a copy of kendo. just to let u know, koreans have been using steel swords long before the japanese even started to use kanji. but u do have a point that haidong gumdo is only several decades old. still, doesnt mean its a copy though.
If that is not hamaka, what is it? Korean have such cloth? I saw many Gumdo posts in other YT posts, and they are using Katana. Korean traditional steel sword and cloth are totally from what I see here and there. If Gumdo is different from Kendo, why these happens?
korea is a member of IKF(international kendo federation) licensed under AJFK(all japan kendo federation). there are two different gumdo(or kumdo) organizations in korea and they are haidong gumdo and gumdo(or kumdo). u've seen gumdo vids on YT? then of course its just like japanese kendo cuz it really is from japan. haidong gumdo vid such as this one is not kendo cuz it is under different organization. i think this is why u r mistaken korea copied kendo. hope this helped...
I know Haidon Gumdo and IKF are different league. I respect IKF and they are one of the best pacticisioners in the world. But Haidon Gumdo...they just started in mid 20th century with by some guys who were not qualified masters.... and now this flashy moves to get new people. I wonder how IKF people think about Heidon guys in Korea...
@tokyocityrat I did some research IKF guys in korea doesn't like haidong because they use the term gumdo(kumdo). gumdo is the korean pronunciation of kendo so it creates confusion for those who want to learn kendo but can't tell the difference between real gumdo and haidong gumdo. I do agree that haidong focuses too much on those flashy moves to steal students from gumdo. but i still dont' think it is a copy, except they use the name gumdo
You done nice research...and I knew Gumdo guys do not like Haidong guys. I think it is because of these moves...no back up with real duel theory and without tradition. For the people (mostly westerners) who are interested in gumdo, they may think this haidong thing is the real gumdo or kendo. Gumdo is really rooted long history...more than 1000yrs and this thing is only 50yrs. Anyway, just think if you roll over infront of your enemy, what will happen next? your head chopped off.
Thats true, but this is just a performance...to give people entertainment they do this...think of a real fight with sword, where the fight would end in 4 seconds...its not a good way to demonstration swordart...that would only be a good way to demonstrate killing.
These choreographed fights are amazing. My tournaments don't have huge choreographs like this. Then again most of mine are in high school gyms. And you people should stop arguing and appreciate that someone had the brilliant idea to put this on here.
@killjoy234234 get ur facts straight, japan colonized korea for around 30 years not for several "CENTURIES"! about the culture, koreans played one of the major roles of spreading and teaching the japanese how to read and write chinese characters(kanji) several "CENTURIES" ago. during this time, japan borrowed and improvised on some of korean cultures so thats why u see those little similarities in the two cultures.
Japan send students to China and Korea more than 10 centuries ago, then closed door until USA come to coast of Japan in mid 19th century. Japanese language have been developed quite unique way during this 1000 yrs, that is why Japanse are totally different from both Chinese and Korean. Please be more fact based.
@tokyocityrat i didnt say korea was the only country to spread chinese characters to japan, though it did influenced the way how japanese pronounce the kanji. u'll notice when koreans read hanja(kanji) u could almost guess what they r saying due to the simalarities on how japanese read the kanji as well. u r right about japan developed in their own unique cultures after learning everything they need to know from the two countries.
I do not deny Korean influence over Japanese history. In fact, there are alot. However, if you hear what Korean always saying that Korean is like Japan's mother country...shit (sorry my language) like that. And if you look at details...cloth(shape colors used), language, social system, mentalities etc etc, you will notice more differences than similarities. I am sure both Korean and Japanese do not want to categorized as the same cultural zone. Korea was/is more China.
@tokyocityrat now i understand what i've said was extremely rude and ignorant. I should'nt compare the cultures of two distinctively different cultures. sure korea was influenced by china up to certain level but the way its people wear, eat, live, and speak are totally different from the ways of the chinese. when u said korea was/is more china.. i knew exactly what u meant and how u must have felt!
Korea once call small China...it is not certain level...whole Korean system and culture were influenced by Chinese one. Why they donot show their own stuff instead of showing Japanese katana and cloth as if that is their own? I think my questions is plain and simple.
hah! now ur being ignorant. korean culture has nothing to do with to chinese culture. like i mentioned before, the way koreans wear, eat, live are totally different. sure, its ancient government and political structures are influenced heavily by the chinese, but "CULTURE" itself has nothing to do with china. modern korea doesn't need chinese characters thx to hangul but japan still is dependant on chinese characters heavily. japan is still living under the influence of china if u think about it
@tokyocityrat plus no one is claiming haidon gumdo as unique korean culture. korean government does not ackwoledge this. almost every1 knows that haidon was created by some korean celebrity during early 1980s. korean government is not claiming it as part of korean culture so stop saying that korea is copying gumdo. cuz it really is not. that comment came from the president of haidon gumdo surely 1 person do not represent the whole KOREA ur an idiot if u believe so. haidon, not official in korea
If you look at their web site, they claim origin of gumdo and Japanese kendo.
This discussion of you and I represent the typical urgument between Korean Gumdo and Japanese kendo. One thing for sure, Haidon guys are spreading their origin-theory all over the world and try to get new players. And many people start to believe all these Japanese samurai stuff (katana, hakama, way of life etc)is originated in Korea.
@tokyocityrat haidon is only an unofficial self-righteous group of martial arts organization and their words do not represent the 'official ' claims of korea or its people. i didnt know haidong was making such claims, if i knew, i would've agreed with you in the first place that haidon copied some of the aspects from kendo. though their styles are totally different.
correct me if im wrong, but i dont see anything "japanese" about the performance they've shown in the video. how can u say that its an imitation? japan has reletively shorter history in comparison to other far east asian countries and koreans have been using steel swords long before the japanese.
@marz12aug why are they wearing traditional korean clothes? because this is not kendo! do u think the video shown above has anything to do with japanese culture? if u believe so, u have some serious problems my friend. its not like japan is the only country in the world which used long swords and blades.
It is not the traditional Korean clothes. It is mixture of modern korean design with traditional Japanese bottom wear (hakama). Korean did not wear such clothes. They wore white clothes from top to bottom with unique hats which shape like mexian one with smaller shades... I donot know the name tho.
@tokyocityrat ok koreans had many different types of clothings during their long history as the new dynasties have risen and fallen but i can't find such clothings shown in the vid so i guess u r right about how haidong lacks its own unique identity.
I think people take things a little to seriously.. It's for show.. and there is more meaning to what there doing than comparing it to real life.. wow i think so many people need to educate themselves before they speak.
HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
enushisama 1 week ago
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To all of you of the whole world.
Komdo is stupid sports in imitation of Japanese old KENdo of Korea.
Please stop it immediately if you learn Komdo now.
And I suggest to learn KENdo.
"KEN" of "KENdo" is a meaning called the swords, and "the DO" is a meaning called the ways.
"kom" of Komdo does not have a meaning at all.
Japanese Bushido and keen mind is included in "KENdo".
There is mind to respect the enemy even if it is an enemy.
Please learn "KENdo" if I want to train true Bushido mind.
poke9520 4 months ago
Nice dance!
But I can not think this is a match
alumite1 4 months ago
well...what is Gumdo, anyway??? I've never heard it. Historically, Korea has been a vassal state of China more than 1000 years. Why did Korean need sword battle?
nene3471 5 months ago
Wow, all the Japanese people are hating on this cause they have an inferiority complex or something. While it is true that Gumdo comes from Kendo. It is not like Japanese don't learn from Koreans. Even the Japanese Kanji writing system, Buddhism, architecture, agriculture, metallurgy, and DNA Lineage came from the Korean Peninsula.
It is so funny watching the Japanese hating on their Korean neighbors while they themselves shares so much in common.
EntranceDenied 6 months ago
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This is true swordmanship. Please watch.
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
enushisama 6 months ago
朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the choson Dynasty (The True Record of the Korean Dynasty)…
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備
The people were not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”
The king said “There was no swordman in our country at all”...
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
There has not been descendent any swordplay from ancient time in our country...
enushisama 6 months ago
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武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .
[It is an official document at a Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century]
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting (in the 17th century ! ).
購得戚繼光紀效新書遣訓局郎韓嶠遍質東來將士
Therefore, Koreans began learning sword skills and others from Chinese .
enushisama 7 months ago
CAUTION!!
Gumdo is a Korean of KENDO reading.
And the KENDO historically has the origin in Japan.
When the KENDO is a Korea origin, they are fabricating it !!
They also are fabricating a story to them own advantage that all Japanese culture
are Korean origins !!
Everybody of intelligent foreigner !
PLEASE DO NOT CHEAT !!
TheMatrix1221 7 months ago
ha ha ha....
nice dance.
Liar's Korean people
mimic military arts
This is imitation of Japan
Melchiorbv 7 months ago
Please stop comparing Korea and Japan as if one culture is stealing from the other. Of course there are similarities in both these cultures. Japan did rule Korea for some time and the two countries are neighbours.
Harping on Korea for Gumdo is like harping on Canada for drinking coffee, Canada did not invent coffee but a 'Double Double’ (coffee two creams two sugars) is part of our cultural identity none the less.
Gumdo is now part of Korean culture. They have made it there own.
FrayInc 8 months ago
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Foolish South Korean. Thief South Korean. Deceitful Korea.
arata9 9 months ago
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
enushisama 9 months ago
man i like this so much more then kendo. theres just so much more to it
raysetiger285 10 months ago
Korean Gumdo is very dangerous art,since they let children hold wooden swords or imitation Katana easily.In Japan we can't use its easily till master give the pardon.why Kendo use bamboo sword?since even just wooden or imitation sword can kill.if the children kill other people slily,could you accept the blame? Korean Gumdo show the brassy performances and get many student and money teaching in hazard without any definite knowledge.this is serious problem for society.
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 10 months ago
Why do so much people care about which came first?
The fact is, every single martial art is powerful on yourself and helps you have a better way of life, as long as you don't practice for bad stuff.
Lassionbabe 10 months ago
@nameunavailable1234: I would be amused to see how you would try to do so.
Hengua 1 year ago
that was awesome
Sharkis011 1 year ago
@Xenobiarch
You are good fellow, I see that. No offence to you. BUT I still do not accpet this movie-like flashy move of Gumdo which use Japanese stuff and do not show respect to its tradition. Kendo is not the sport, it is traditional martial art rooted hundred of years of samurai combat, not like Gumdo with several decades old history. If you ever see Kendo guys who play such way shown here to magnet new players, let me know, I know you will never find those in Kendo.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
@Xenobiarch
Yeah, stupid performace shows stupid heart. If you know knowlege about this stuff, tell me where it came from?
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
For once, JUST ONCE I would like to see a 해동검도 match that is not choreographed.
blee072 2 years ago
omg nice they jump madhigh to dodge
wwfls4 2 years ago
Japanese kendo do not perform this shit.
This is Korean copy of Kendo. Do not follow crap copy.
tokyocityrat 2 years ago
this is not a copy of kendo. they r not wearing hakama, bogu, and shinai. their movements have no resemblance to the japanese way of sword (kendo). no one is claiming that 'haidong gumdo' and kendo are the samething so i dont know where u get the idea of calling it a copy of kendo. just to let u know, koreans have been using steel swords long before the japanese even started to use kanji. but u do have a point that haidong gumdo is only several decades old. still, doesnt mean its a copy though.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootoughguy
If that is not hamaka, what is it? Korean have such cloth? I saw many Gumdo posts in other YT posts, and they are using Katana. Korean traditional steel sword and cloth are totally from what I see here and there. If Gumdo is different from Kendo, why these happens?
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
korea is a member of IKF(international kendo federation) licensed under AJFK(all japan kendo federation). there are two different gumdo(or kumdo) organizations in korea and they are haidong gumdo and gumdo(or kumdo). u've seen gumdo vids on YT? then of course its just like japanese kendo cuz it really is from japan. haidong gumdo vid such as this one is not kendo cuz it is under different organization. i think this is why u r mistaken korea copied kendo. hope this helped...
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootouchguy
I know Haidon Gumdo and IKF are different league. I respect IKF and they are one of the best pacticisioners in the world. But Haidon Gumdo...they just started in mid 20th century with by some guys who were not qualified masters.... and now this flashy moves to get new people. I wonder how IKF people think about Heidon guys in Korea...
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
@tokyocityrat I did some research IKF guys in korea doesn't like haidong because they use the term gumdo(kumdo). gumdo is the korean pronunciation of kendo so it creates confusion for those who want to learn kendo but can't tell the difference between real gumdo and haidong gumdo. I do agree that haidong focuses too much on those flashy moves to steal students from gumdo. but i still dont' think it is a copy, except they use the name gumdo
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@Kyootouhguy
You done nice research...and I knew Gumdo guys do not like Haidong guys. I think it is because of these moves...no back up with real duel theory and without tradition. For the people (mostly westerners) who are interested in gumdo, they may think this haidong thing is the real gumdo or kendo. Gumdo is really rooted long history...more than 1000yrs and this thing is only 50yrs. Anyway, just think if you roll over infront of your enemy, what will happen next? your head chopped off.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
No true warrior would fight this way, for they couldn't last even seconds.
wateronthesmoke 2 years ago 2
Thats true, but this is just a performance...to give people entertainment they do this...think of a real fight with sword, where the fight would end in 4 seconds...its not a good way to demonstration swordart...that would only be a good way to demonstrate killing.
Blutroth 2 years ago
great performance. this is exactly why i prefer haidong gumdo.. it's really outstanding.
HwarangKnights 2 years ago
These choreographed fights are amazing. My tournaments don't have huge choreographs like this. Then again most of mine are in high school gyms. And you people should stop arguing and appreciate that someone had the brilliant idea to put this on here.
theavengerofblood 3 years ago 2
r they realy hitting each other???
WarMachine2008 3 years ago
no, its only an impressive choreography
mominaporongon 2 years ago
It is not allowed to let te sword go, but nice sequence
JackKenobi 3 years ago
Like a school play, for the appreciating eyes of the parents.
nameunavailable1234 3 years ago 8
I am not too easy to please with MA videos. But this is truthfully Amazing!!!.
THEGAMEOFDEATH1970 3 years ago
Whats even more amazing is how daft you must be
TsugaruRage 3 years ago
Why do not they use clothes of traditional Korean?
This is imitation of the Japanese culture.
They are deceived by Korean!
marz12aug 3 years ago
actually the Japanese had control of Korea throughout several centuries so their cultures and martial arts have similarities
killjoy234234 3 years ago
They forge the origin of the kendo.
They say. "Korea in the origin of the Japanese sword."
Naturally this is a clear lie. The Japanese sword was developed in Japan of the Heian era.
The Korean is going to steal every Japanese culture.
Please be careful.
marz12aug 3 years ago
Jingum was first, sorry to break your weaboo heart
maglad 3 years ago
@killjoy234234 get ur facts straight, japan colonized korea for around 30 years not for several "CENTURIES"! about the culture, koreans played one of the major roles of spreading and teaching the japanese how to read and write chinese characters(kanji) several "CENTURIES" ago. during this time, japan borrowed and improvised on some of korean cultures so thats why u see those little similarities in the two cultures.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootoughguy
Japan send students to China and Korea more than 10 centuries ago, then closed door until USA come to coast of Japan in mid 19th century. Japanese language have been developed quite unique way during this 1000 yrs, that is why Japanse are totally different from both Chinese and Korean. Please be more fact based.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
@tokyocityrat i didnt say korea was the only country to spread chinese characters to japan, though it did influenced the way how japanese pronounce the kanji. u'll notice when koreans read hanja(kanji) u could almost guess what they r saying due to the simalarities on how japanese read the kanji as well. u r right about japan developed in their own unique cultures after learning everything they need to know from the two countries.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootooughguy
I do not deny Korean influence over Japanese history. In fact, there are alot. However, if you hear what Korean always saying that Korean is like Japan's mother country...shit (sorry my language) like that. And if you look at details...cloth(shape colors used), language, social system, mentalities etc etc, you will notice more differences than similarities. I am sure both Korean and Japanese do not want to categorized as the same cultural zone. Korea was/is more China.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
@tokyocityrat now i understand what i've said was extremely rude and ignorant. I should'nt compare the cultures of two distinctively different cultures. sure korea was influenced by china up to certain level but the way its people wear, eat, live, and speak are totally different from the ways of the chinese. when u said korea was/is more china.. i knew exactly what u meant and how u must have felt!
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootoughguy
Korea once call small China...it is not certain level...whole Korean system and culture were influenced by Chinese one. Why they donot show their own stuff instead of showing Japanese katana and cloth as if that is their own? I think my questions is plain and simple.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
hah! now ur being ignorant. korean culture has nothing to do with to chinese culture. like i mentioned before, the way koreans wear, eat, live are totally different. sure, its ancient government and political structures are influenced heavily by the chinese, but "CULTURE" itself has nothing to do with china. modern korea doesn't need chinese characters thx to hangul but japan still is dependant on chinese characters heavily. japan is still living under the influence of china if u think about it
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@tokyocityrat plus no one is claiming haidon gumdo as unique korean culture. korean government does not ackwoledge this. almost every1 knows that haidon was created by some korean celebrity during early 1980s. korean government is not claiming it as part of korean culture so stop saying that korea is copying gumdo. cuz it really is not. that comment came from the president of haidon gumdo surely 1 person do not represent the whole KOREA ur an idiot if u believe so. haidon, not official in korea
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootoughguy
If you look at their web site, they claim origin of gumdo and Japanese kendo.
This discussion of you and I represent the typical urgument between Korean Gumdo and Japanese kendo. One thing for sure, Haidon guys are spreading their origin-theory all over the world and try to get new players. And many people start to believe all these Japanese samurai stuff (katana, hakama, way of life etc)is originated in Korea.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
@tokyocityrat haidon is only an unofficial self-righteous group of martial arts organization and their words do not represent the 'official ' claims of korea or its people. i didnt know haidong was making such claims, if i knew, i would've agreed with you in the first place that haidon copied some of the aspects from kendo. though their styles are totally different.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootoughguy
You are good man. Please forgive me for my last comments if it offended you.
I got what you mean and I am with you.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
correct me if im wrong, but i dont see anything "japanese" about the performance they've shown in the video. how can u say that its an imitation? japan has reletively shorter history in comparison to other far east asian countries and koreans have been using steel swords long before the japanese.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@marz12aug why are they wearing traditional korean clothes? because this is not kendo! do u think the video shown above has anything to do with japanese culture? if u believe so, u have some serious problems my friend. its not like japan is the only country in the world which used long swords and blades.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
@kyootoughguy
It is not the traditional Korean clothes. It is mixture of modern korean design with traditional Japanese bottom wear (hakama). Korean did not wear such clothes. They wore white clothes from top to bottom with unique hats which shape like mexian one with smaller shades... I donot know the name tho.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
@tokyocityrat ok koreans had many different types of clothings during their long history as the new dynasties have risen and fallen but i can't find such clothings shown in the vid so i guess u r right about how haidong lacks its own unique identity.
kyootoughguy 1 year ago
I think people take things a little to seriously.. It's for show.. and there is more meaning to what there doing than comparing it to real life.. wow i think so many people need to educate themselves before they speak.
leejun1968 3 years ago
Korean dance？
prozokukoku 3 years ago 11
well it was kind of a choreographed demonstration so ... what else did you expect?
neverhadachoice 4 years ago
nice XD
XD4133 4 years ago
Damn straight the camera is shaky. Finally someone telling me like it is, haha.
Not to worry though I got a new camera so the next videos should be a bit more stable.
FrayInc 4 years ago
The camera is quite shaky, but that's pretty cool
PSColdFire 4 years ago
This is sooooo much like star wars!
andrepinho01 4 years ago
very nice
JesusFuckingChrist84 4 years ago
that was freaking awesome
Samoz19 4 years ago