The Japanese Royal Palace: The World's Last Remaining Emperor and Longest Monarchy2

[lvglvglvg1]

Some say Japanese emperor was Korean, some say blah blah. Thanks for comment with your blah blah knowledge that is from internet only. Those ppl always like "oh, they were actually from this, oh they were not this actually".

[shamalama68]

WHY is he called "Emperor"??? He is not an emperor, he is a king. An emperor rules over an empire. There is no Japanese empire, only Japan.

[chonge]

@shamalama68

Because he is titled, in Japanese is 天皇 (Tenno) which means heavenly-Emperor because he is suppose to a God to his people, the Grand-King of Heaven and so.

The Chinese version 皇帝 (Huangdi) is derived from different origins but basically also refers to the God-Kings of mythology and legend.

The European word 'Emperor' is derived from Latin 'imperator' used to be a title of a Commander before turning into 'Emperor'.

They have different origins so are used differently.

[shamalama68]

@chonge Thank you for you explanation! So, Japanese Empire ended with Japan's defeat in August, 1945. Japanese economy crashed and burned at the end of the 1980's... Japan is no longer #2 economy... So I think it's silly to call Akihito "Emperor". He really shouldn't even be called "king". How about "Grand Duke"?

[chonge]

@shamalama68 The thing is the Japanese title of Emperor has nothing to do with the size of a territory or official definition of the country's name like Kingdom or Grand Duchy. It has to do with being a heavenly god-royal. Japan had an emperor since 660BC and that was when Japanese 'territory' had not even occupied Modern-day Japan. The Hokkaido Island was not part of Japan until the 1750s but Japan still had an Emperor. Look at it through Japanese culture not a European based one.

[shamalama68]

@chonge Interesting. And indeed, going back that far, the Japanese emperor was Korean...

[undertakerRach]

January 30, 2007

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[sinoples]

Quiet a boring scenery !!! I miss some windows, mirors, candelabres.....and feathers on ladies's hats!

[MouYijian]

Where is part 3? I wanna see how they seal documents.

[charly345mstl]

*rlatndnsxo is seriously mad.Ignore his comment.

[kappelmeister123]

where is part 3?

[Cahlum]

No the British to not have the oldest continuous monarchy. The line has been broken many times and between1649 and 1660 there was no monarch. The Japanese monarchy has been unbroken since 660BC

[rlatndnsxo]

@Cahlum The english monarchy hasen't been broken, although some times, distant cousins or half siblings suceeded the throne. In the 7th century Japan, Japan wasn't what it was today, it was quite divided among lots of nations. now it was the Yamato which Japan became a unified nation under the Yamato Emperor, But Many powerful nobles and exiled Kings from the continent became Emperors in turn, to cover this up the Imperial Household banned surnames to ensure " their long continious dynasty"

[SancLunatic]

@Cahlum The Japanese Monarchy has always existed continuously but have not always held commanding power. There's a difference. You can say the same today that the monarchy in Japan does not exist because they hold little to no political power over the country whatsoever.

[sexyeamo]

@Cahlum yeah, so it is claimed, but it hasn't really

[jdi0093113]

@Cahlum The British MOnarchy is the oldest and has been kept in the family (even if by being great cousins)

[TheCharlie359]

The British not the Japanese have the oldest monarchy.

[Rompa87]

@TheCharlie359 The British are usually discounted from their ranking due to it being a republic between 1649 to 1660. They cannot expect to be called the oldest monarchy if it isn't continous

[TheCharlie359]

@Rompa87, From what i understand while the Japanese people have had monarchy in different forms for centuries, however it was only in the 19th century that a unified monarchy of JAPAN came into extistence as the Japanese nation unified into a single political unit, the British despite a decade of COMMONWEALTH not republic, have had monarchy for well over 1400 years.

[Rompa87]

@TheCharlie359 Shouldn't the form and duties of the Japanese emperor be irrelevant? The fact is that he has since the formation of the office been head of state and the formal master of all tribes and fiefdoms of Japan. And if we're talking about it having to be a single political unit, and you claiming that Britain (I'll assume you meant England) has been unified under a monarch for over 1400 years, I'm afraid that just isn't true. And the commonwealth was a republic, in all but title

[TheCharlie359]

@Rompa87, Japan has not had a unified monarchy for very long therefore its not the worlds oldest, the United Kingdom however has had monarchy in its current British form for over 200 years since the combination of the English and Scottish monarchies and the union of both nations. The English monarchy despite it brief break has endured for well over a thousand years and is continued in its current form as the English monarchy wasnt dissolved just combined with the Scots making it 1400 years old +

[Rompa87]

@TheCharlie359 Surely, you would agree that the earliest date which one can place the unification of England is 927, under Athelstan? Before that, England consisted of numerous small kingdoms such as East Anglia, Wessex etc. I'm not sure where you get the "1400 years" from?

[TheCharlie359]

@Rompa87, The debate is whether Japan has the worlds oldest monarchy, it does not.

[Rompa87]

@TheCharlie359 I would argue that the debate is about the claim you made about Britain having the oldest monarchy which, in my book, it doesn't

[TheCharlie359]

@Rompa87, The UK's monarchy is older than its Japanese counterpart, but lets cease this back n forth and agree to disagree,

[Rompa87]

@TheCharlie359 Agreed. (The Danish one is the oldest, anyway) ; )

[auburn220]

@TheCharlie359, The Japanese monarchy is the oldest continuing monarchy on earth not the uk one. I think your claim that the british one is older is just your opinion but not a Fact. What difference does it make anyway? the british monarchy is hardly respected by the British people & treated with indifference, whiles on the other hand, the Japanese monarchy still retains reverence from its subjects...

[TheCharlie359]

@auburn220, The British peoples opinion of their monarchy is not the dispute, our monarchy has ONE gap of 11years over 1400 years of monarchy over the English then British kingdoms. Japan has only existed as a unified nation since the 19th century.

[asunaj]

@TheCharlie359 You really should read a book. The Japanese monarchy has existed undisturbed for ovr two millenia. In comparison the "British" monarchy can only be talked of after 1707 and the Act of Union. If you want to talk about the English monarchy (which no longer exists) or the Scottish crown (which also no longer exists constitutionally) that would be another matter.

The First King od England was Egbert and the last Queen was Anne. After her there was created a new joint crown.

[TheCharlie359]

@asunaj, Our monarchies are older, they didnt cease to exist they simply combined, the Japanese have had monarchy for centuries yes, but only since the restoration has the Japanese monarchy represented the NATION.

[asunaj]

@TheCharlie359 You really should go to a library and check out a stack of books on Japanese history. The line of the Japanese Emperors as sovereigns at least as far back as Emperor Kimmei in 592. Which is while the Angles and Saxons were still invading Briton, how can European monarchies be older than 592? Can you name a single European house that can show its lineage that far back? If you cannot I am afraid I have caught you in a lie.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj let's be serious The Japanes Monarchy, was never recognized as " Emperors" by any other country or state untill the 19th century. during the 7th century, the Japanese King sent his envoy to the Sui( china) Emperor saying greetings from the Eastern Lord to the Lord of the West. Sui Emperor was mad as hell, but his wars with Koguryo prevented him from giving the Japanese King a reply. and When the Japanese Shoguns gained power it was the Shouguns

[asunaj]

@rlatndnsxo In the same way the great Asian empires did not know of or recognize any European monarch until the 18th century. As Asia had all the people and wealth until that time, only the great monarch of the Ming, Safavid, Mughal, and Ottoman can be thought of as arbitrers of international recognition, so by your standard there is not a single European monarchy that is older than the 18th century.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj The reason the Dynasties of Korea or China recognized any European monarch until the 18th century is because, we never knew they existed. and by the way During the Ming dynasty, the Ming government actually sends diplomatic missions to the papacy to gain some help in their manchurian wars. and The Qing Emperor knew of the British monarchy from frequent english delagets and did " recognized" the British Monarch at the time. while Japan's Shogun was admited as King of Japan till Meji

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj to sum things up, you can claim Jap monarchy is thousand years old, but it's actually quite 200, because Japan's Emperor was never admitted by any nation in the world untill the 19th century, before that it was the Shouguns who were proclaimed Ruler or King of Japan by the Chinese central Dynasty. and it was the Shoguns who ruled and acted as ruler of Japan for a thousand years.

[rlatndnsxo]

@TheCharlie359 quite right, The English Monarchy since the time of King Alfred the Great ( Queen Elizabeth the second's ancestor) is over a thousand years old. while the Japanese monarchy is only about 200 somethingl.

[asunaj]

Can you not read? Go read a history of Japan. is there an English monarch older than Emperor Kimmei?

Besides the English monarchy no longer exists. The last monarch of England was Queen Anne. During her reign the Kingdom of England ceased to exist as an entity.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj It didn't cease to exist, the English crown with the unification with Scotland became Great Britain idiot. what ever i don't care if the Japs had Emperors for thousands of year i don't give a fuckshit about it, It was the Shoguns who were adknoledged as rulers of Japan by other nations untill the end of the Tokugawa Shogunate. with is the mid 1800s.

[asunaj]

@rlatndnsxo By your same standards the current Head of Government in the UK is acknowledged to bethe Prime Minister and all international dialogue is directed at him.

Honestly I'm not from East Asia but it is absurd how so many Japanese and Korean still act like this to each other. Who cares what happened in the past? Just make peace. Look at the European Uni (well the economy is not looking good) but look at how much harmony and mutual respect they have. It you have nothing nice to say well...

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj UK is a Constitutional Monarchy, just like Japan where there Prime minister takes care of International Politics. But in Medieval Japan, It wasn't a Constitutional Monarchy, It's true the Shogun "payed" it's allegaince to the Emperor, But he didn't hesitate at all when being adressed as King or Ruler of Japan.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Check out the History textbooks of Korea and Japan, The Monarch of Japan is called Emperor after the Mejii Restoration in the 19th century, before that the monarch of Japan is called the King of Japan, which would be the Shougns of the Tokugawa Shogunate.

[douglaspotterpress]

@rlatndnsxo

No, they were never called 'Kings of Japan.' They were always labelled as 'Tenno Heika,' which translates to His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor. Please don't make us stuff which are complete bullshit.

[TheCharlie359]

@rlatndnsxo, so right!

[douglaspotterpress]

@TheCharlie359

The Japanese monarchy has always represented the NATION. I don't understand where you're coming from?

[TheCharlie359]

@douglaspotterpress, Japan has only been a unified nation state since the 19th century! how can their monarchy represent the nation if the nation didnt exist as one political unit.

[douglaspotterpress]

@TheCharlie359

No, no; again mate you've got your facts wrong. The Japanese have always been unified as a country, lead by the Shogun, with the Emperor as the figurehead since the early 900AD. Before that, Japan was unified and lead as a country by the Emperor. Unfortunately, you've got your history wrong, and you seem to have confused yourself with the Meiji Restoration. This was a restoration of the Emperor to power, not the unification of Japan. Please, please read up on your facts.

[TheCharlie359]

@douglaspotterpress, I stand corrected, i apologise, thanks for the info, however it dosnt change the fact that the British monarchy is the worlds most well known and is the worlds last true great royal dynasty.

[douglaspotterpress]

@TheCharlie359

I agree that the British Monarchy is the world's most well known monarchy (due to the influence of the previous British Empire and the Anglosphere), but this does not necessarily mean that it's the world's 'longest,' which the Japanese monarchy can rightfully claim. Although the British Monarchy is an truly, truly respectable institute, this does not mean it has an longer history then the Japanese Imperial Monarchy.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Japan's Ruler was known as the Shougns of the Shogunate. Japs might have had " self claimed" " Emperors" But in the outer international world, it was the shoguns that were aknowledged as kings from 11th century to the 19th century. now it was with Meji's restoration japan became a real empire and the emperors of japan became known to the world

[asunaj]

@rlatndnsxo By your same standard European monarchs don't count as Kings or Emperors until the 18th century because the Ottoma, Mughals and Ming didn't accord them that status. Using your standard we can say that there were no monarchs in Europe until the 18th century when the great central Asian monarchs accorded them status.

Your world view is incredibly narrow and Eurocentric.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Ming Government actually sends lots of diplomatic missions to the Papal States and to European countries asking for military and financial aid, during the Manchu wars. and they do respect the monarchs of the west as Kings and Emperors. and It is a certain fact the the Qing Emperors during 18th century adknoledge the British crown by their frequent delegates.

[asunaj]

@rlatndnsxo Yes but they never gave the European monarchs the dignity of a sovereign they were always greeted as Western barbarians. The words Emperor, King and Duke were only used for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese sovereigns. The first time any Asian ruler acknowledged a European ruler as anything akin to an equal was by the Ottomans in the treaty of Karlowitz in 1699.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Really? Your view is quite Japanese it self. Japan is a brutal land ruled by the edge of the sword for a thousand of years, and it still was untill WW2. and during the brutal reign of the samurais, The Emperors worshipped as gods, which explains why you want to think the Japanese Yamato Dynasty is the oldest in the world. But know this, It was the Mejii Restoration An "Emperor" not a "Shogun" became supreme ruler of the island and thus known the the east or west.

[asunaj]

@rlatndnsxo Not being Japanese I don't know why I would be thought of as Japanese. As for a brutal land, Japanese history knows nothing as brutal as the Rape of Scotland known as the Highland clearances, the Rape of ireland known as the Potato Famine, the ongoing subjugation of Welsh language and culture, the artifical famines forced on Indian populations or the extreme violence used by the british army in conquering India and Africa and racist regimes left behind in South Africa and Rhodesia

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Please, During the Japanese Occupation of Eastern Asia, The Japanese Army were notorious for their " Pleasure" women, and raping millions of women from child to old, married to unmarried. ever heard of the Rape of Nanjing? and ever heard of Pleasure women or their children protesting in front of the Japanese Consulate or embassy?

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj The Word the Japs use in describing their Emperor, " Ten-no" means the Ruler of Heavens thus the Supreme being greater than the Rulers on Earth. Do you think the Super powers of the time, the Emperors of inland China would've just sat down and watch a group of barbaric pirate samurais call them selves Rulers of the Sky?

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj The truth is untill the late 19th century, Japan only adressed their monarch as Emperor within themselves, and their Emeperor rarely engaged in foreign diplomatics, and when they did the Japanese made sure to adress them as Kings to prevent the Chinese or the Koreans from getting pissed.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Now the Korean Joseon Dynasty, proclaimed the Tokugawa Shogun as King of Japan, But in the late 19th century, when the Shogun was overthrown, and a new imperial government formed, The Emeperor sent diplomatic missions to Korea adressing himself as Emeperor, enraged when the Jap mission reached Pusan Port they were immediatley sent back for being rude. get the whole thing?

[asunaj]

@rlatndnsx How did that work out for the Korean monarchy? What are they up to these days?

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj Thanks to the Japanese, we don't have a monarchy.

[douglaspotterpress]

@rlatndnsxo

Oh by the way, I understand you're Korean and I respect your country, however the Joseon Dynasty had no power to even 'proclaim the Tokugawa Shogun' as 'Emperor of Japan.' Your education is clearly dilluted by an South Korean biasness. The Joseon Dynasty, if you read your history closely, was a Vassal state of the Qing Dynasty. Basically, equivalent to Manchuria of Japan. The Koreans were never truly independent for the past 1000 years.

[rlatndnsxo]

@asunaj what are you talking about, the current Monarch of Britain or the house of Windsor, and the House of Hanover before descends from both Scottish, and English Crown. in fact King James of the house of Stuart is a King of England with Scottish Royal blood, They intermarried and later in 1707 the two countries became unified thus, the royal blood also unified by marriage. one question How come Jap Emperor dosen't use any Surnames, isn't it because maybe he is of different blood than ancient

[asunaj]

@TheCharlie359 This is absurd. Japan is actually a unified nation and has acknowledged itself as such since prehistory. The British Isles slowly unified over the course of centuries and are currently unravelling. Southern Ireland is free. Northern Ireland will soon be free to rejoin the South. And Scotland just voted in a separatist party.

[JapanEmpire20]

@TheCharlie359, Oh please! The Japanese Monarchy existed long before the english monarchy came into existence. That scandalous monarchy isn't even worth the fuss...

[TheCharlie359]

@JapanEmpire20, The English monarchy is 1400 years old, Japans is less than 200, you do the math!

[JapanEmpire20]

@TheCharlie359, I don't know where you're getting your information from but try doing some simple research. The Imperial House was founded in 660 BC. The Imperial Family is therefore approximately 2600 years old with an unbroken line of sovereigns which is not the case for the english royals. Where did you figure out it was below 200 years? Anyway a Fact is a Fact, continue believing whatever fantasy you want, your business!

[TheCharlie359]

@JapanEmpire20, Japan has simply not existed as a unified state for more than 200 years, therefore you cant say Japan has had a monarchy for 2600 years, there may well have been a "Royal" house but it wasnt the royal house of the Japanese nation until the 19th century.

[JapanEmpire20]

@TheCharlie359, Perhaps you could provide a link or source to back up your mythical claim, otherwise all you're saying is just air....

[TheCharlie359]

@JapanEmpire20, Do you dispute the fact modern Japan came into being in the 19th century?

[asunaj]

@TheCharlie359 It modernized in the 19th century, in the same way that modern Britain arguably arose in the 19th century and modern America arose in the 19th century. The constitutional change in Japan also occurred throughout Europe in that time. Japan WAS a unitary state rules symbolically by the Emperor and ruled in fact by the Shogun. Japan was an extremely centralized state ruled from . But its foolish to argue with a fool. Read a book about Japanese history and stop embarrassing yourself.

[TheCharlie359]

@asunaj, I really do not consider myself an expert on Japan so i ask you to forgive my ignorance, i was under the belief that in the 1860's Japan unified into a "modern" nation state, as im aware this meant the monarchy fell into line with the European absolute monarchies, having the Emperor as head of state and ruler, before this i was told Japan was ruled as independent Shogunates and the monarchy didnt represent the nation, rather a faction of it as in pre 1871 Germany, i apologise

[asunaj]

@TheCharlie359 I apologize for the harshness of my tone. I had confused you with a comment-leaver who was leaving racist comments. I now see that your comments were meant in good faith, I really am very sorry for the harshness of my tone.

[douglaspotterpress]

@TheCharlie359

Japan has always had a unified monarchy. You really need to read up on your history. The British monarchy has not been continuous. Since 1066, it has been taken over by the Duchy of Normandy. The Japanese on the other hand, have had a continuous monarchy for the past 2600 years.

[toki1221]

大日本帝国=great japan empire

天皇陛下=the emperor in the heaven.

get it?

[mrlopez2681]

although he is titled "Emperor", he really isn't an Emperor - he is actually a king.

[teddythebenny]

@mrlopez2681 he isnt ? every source of information ive read states as emperor.. thats from the official documents.. unless your talking about your owned assumed logic, that is.. western philosophical ideology, that denotes the entity of emperor as a sovereign.. hence king. Though Caesar, and kaizer means emperor.. what i dont understand is, how can u state emperor as a king, when Tenno means emperor...

[mrlopez2681]

@teddythebenny - I think you are reading a bit to much into my comment. The word "Emperor" is certainly not Japanese - in the Japanese language he was known as the "Mikado". Anyway, what I meant by my comment was that, in fact, he really isn't an Emperor in the traditional sense of the word - an Emperor rules/reigns over many differing lands & peoples. Today, it is only the Japanese people & land he rules/reigns over, which makes him, by definition, a king.

[teddythebenny]

@mrlopez2681 .. hmm i see your point, i concede defeat dear sir !.. usually its sepuku, but.. its supposed to be hanging these days.. alas, i prefer the priestess days..

[mrlopez2681]

altghough he is titled "Emperor", he really isn't an Emperor - he is actually a king.

[poriporitakuan]

出てくる侍従長って、皇室祭祀をムチャクチャにした入江じゃんか­！

[chimimac1]

He is not an emperor, Japan has no empire.

[zor0825]

I'm note sure why the Japanese monarch is called an Emperor and not a King or another term?

Since the Emperor or Japan doesn't rule over a geographically extensive group of states and peoples (ethnic groups).

[douglaspotterpress]

@zor0825

Because the term 'Tenno' is a term which means 'Emperor.' Also during the first two thousand years of the Imperial family, they had only ruled the island of Japan; however from the Meiji Period to 1945, Japan, which was effectively known as the Empire of Japan, had ruled nearly 2/3rds of Asia. So, it's because of this, it remains as an 'Emperor,' not an King; similar to the UK where although they had an empire, they had a 'King.' Simply tradition.

[chimimac1]

@douglaspotterpress Tenno It ruled a large part of Asia under his father who disgraced him and Japan by murdering millions of innocent people. He was not monarch at the time so therefore is not an emperor. To still claim to be an emperor is obscene.

[bakaboy2000]

now THAT was interesting! Thank you for posting this!!!!!

[bzhseat]

it's totally different than the european royal palces

[muffles12]

where is part 3?

[muffles12]

who was emperor ? during geroge w.bush

[AquariaSpirit]

@muffles12 Emperor Akihito, same as now.

[douglaspotterpress]

@muffles12

Emperor Showa (Hirohito) was Emperor of Japan from early 1920s to 1989. From 1989 to present, it is Emperor Heisei (Akihito). So, to answer your question, the Emperor during George. W Bush's reign as President from 2001 to 2009, was Emperor Heisei (Akihito).

[poppingcherries1]

Showa-sama

[GimmeKitty]

THANK you for the SUBTITLES! We don't speak Japanese.

[cboy0394]

is this it isn't there more if there is can you please post it up.

[Klockfantast]

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