"What Is Painting?" At THE MUSEUM OF MODERN ART Part II

[uh0oo]

How does she give a diffrent interpretation for each white "painting" when they all show the same, Im fasinated with art, but the concepts, and philosophies are hard to grasp sometimes.

[irishluck43]

The joke is on you, peeps. It's a whitewashed canvas. The only thing it "says", is please paint me.

[SuntzuMocro]

this is so funny robert ryman was a fucking a security guard at a museum before becoming an artist. he just fucking laughed at all those modern artists and gave them a fucking WHITE painting in ur face Biatch,

and everytime someone questioned this....they are ignorant so ignorant lets climb a tree.

[MrWowforever]

@danielmesarosiu speak for yourself

[andrewweis]

Has anyone seen the movie The Aristocrats? It's a doc about this inside joke that's been told between comedians for decades. The punch line is always the same but the delivery is always different and improvised. That being said, I think Ryman's work is astonishing on it's own in a world with or without the aristocrats.

[jaco2627]

it's hard for me to believe in nothing

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[rembrandtsca]

WHAT A BUNCH OF EMPTY JUNK!

[AndresB062193]

@proust2020 I agree. =-)

[C4ContemporaryArt]

I found it obnoxious in the extreme that the guide/docent took a pot shot at Tuymans' painting Demolition (the last one) by referring to 'the 9/11 attacks' which completely SUBVERTS what Luc Tuymans was trying to put across...

[shuechung]

@7,20 , i see a pink penis. =.=

[astartarte]

gracias por subir este video, saludos desde Mérida Venezuela.

[danielmesarosiu]

cmon, this is bullshit!

[danielmesarosiu]

fucking bullshit, she explains how some painter (or more) came to paint nothing actually, pure white. this is pure bullshit, can't believe someone would pay to enter a museum to see a blank (white) painting and stay there and listen to the bullshit she feeds you, and what is with the black squares and a different colour frame, is that a painting too?

[MrWowforever]

@danielmesarosiu if you read the history books, your point is made constantly by conservative critics throughout the last 150 years. You are in good company. You don't have to like it, or believe it, or buy it. But, it's there. Learn about it and argue intelligently about it, or.... No one cares if you hate it. thats easy. just move on.....

[danielmesarosiu]

@MrWowforever there's nothing intelligent about a pure white painting bro.

[abarraga86]

@proust2020 While it is true that art is about intention, I believe that for art to be considered there must also be inspiration, a source/context, a medium, and lastly but very importantly there must be talent for the process to occur. We all have ideas, execution is vital, thats why we are not all artists. All these links must be strong for art to hold its own value, and not just "have value" because it is hanging within a confined space called a museum. A masterpiece is precious anywhere...

[proust2020]

@abarraga86 I agree that a lot of art is endowed with value merely because of the context of the museum/gallery. What we have currently in visual art culture is a division of labor, particularly among the top artists. These artists conceive ideas but do not necessarily 'execute' them. They often delegate that task to artisans/illustrators etc. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, obviously one can cite old masters doing the same thing. It is just the way things are right now.

[proust2020]

MrWow thanks for an intelligent conversation!

[proust2020]

I think the 'blank canvas' is all that you said it is and it is also the culmination of a reductive trend in painting that started at the beginning of last century. Art grows out of cultural/political conditions but it also grows out of art itself. Either way it is an ironical/cynical statement that in retrospect looks predictable but was necessary nonetheless.

[MrWowforever]

thanks for the chat:)

[C4ContemporaryArt]

@proust2020 In response to your 'blank canvas' comment - the awkward meander toward the blank canvas (as you put it) - I feel - was something visual art culture picked up, of all places, from architecture, specifically Adolph Loos who fought rabidly and vocally to eradicate ornamentation and cultural icons from architecture - and whose voice found it's home with Le Corbusier (certainly others too). But the drive toward the 'atomic' or 'essential' started here rather visibly... just a thought.

[NaturalNeon]

Thankyou for filming this. I'm very appreciative :)

[proust2020]

I agree. The my child/monkey/ could do this is tiresome. Art is about intention. The reason a child's art isn't art is because intention needs to be applied. These artists are all about intention. That's why a blank canvas is art. Or a cows head in formaldehyde for that matter. Someone intends it to be art. Whether it is good art is another question and that is totally subjective.

[MrWowforever]

@proust2020 i personally feel that the Monochrome is a reflection of the individual in the Industrial Age. A faceless worker, a cultural blank. The 'new' Information Age purports to give us a global identity. I don't buy it, do you? I think the Monochrome has value. Of course it's a denial of 'skill', but that is a challenge to artists. It is a provocative gesture by Artists against Industrial indifference and the horrors of the 20th century. World Wars, genocides, propoganda and t.v.IMO:)

[proust2020]

It is amazing how much anger this discussion generates. I completely understand why a blank canvas upsets folks but I also understand why an artist would make that statement. If you think of the history of art as one big conversation, some artists have very interesting contributions and others have less interesting things to say. All are valid. Context molds what an artist makes. Cultural and political forces play a big role in the game. There are high/low points on the art graph. You decide.

[MrWowforever]

True. Most of the angry comments seem to occur around the most viewed vids on James Kalms site. These commenters don't seem to have a specific interest, only a general complaint. Usually something as banal as,'a child/monkey/alien could do this......'.Anyone who is sincerely involved with Art is treated like a fraud. Anger usually masks fear. These folks rarely get specific and can't defend their 'points'. I would love a valid argument, that's great, but usually we get dumb anger:)

[taaang4lyfe]

This lady drank too much of the kool-aid

[MrWowforever]

@taaang4lyfe go watch t.v. :)

[rembrandtsca]

How can I yell at you? you made me laugh! It is obvious than the angry one is you not me. Well, I guess truth hurts.

[MrWowforever]

actually, YOUR comments ARE very angry? Why do you only comment on the big museum shows? Do you know the work of any artists your own age? Why so desperate to bitch about Institutional decisions? You never address the points you raise? Now, follow with a nonresponsive response.....

[caliclips]

Thank you for showing me the true appeal of VTS .......her monologue is very distracting and now I wonder if I that's how I sounded to my students all those years.....

[claureic]

Some people here would do well to "waste" some of their precious time looking at some Ryman paintings for a while (or a Soulages for that matter). They might understand the amount of work that went into them and also that there is no such thing for Ryman as a "solid white painting". If 90% of the viewers dismiss these works as poor and irrelevant to art history, I fell sorry for them...

[rembrandtsca]

Why should I waste time looking at this crap. The art is empty, meaningless, it represents the egocentricity of someone who believes he is an artist and think his product is successful just because it is different; This art is great for people that are ignorant, don't like to learn, feel, understand anything. He has no soul

and probably his life is as empty as the canvas itself.

Thank God classical art is starting to come back stronger than ever,

[claureic]

You might like a German sculptor named Arno Breker, then...

[MrWowforever]

you should follow your instincts, actualize your anger. You use 'he', 'God', 'soul' and pray for the return of a prior age, Classical. You are afraid of change and your anger masks that fear . You only comment on the big shows. I think your a bitter artist who takes no personal responsibility for your life. Your yelling at Giants. By the time Art gets to a Museum, the 'taste' is settled. Why not tackle some of the gallery shows James Kalm covers, art being made by your peers? Now... yell at me:)

[rembrandtsca]

Mr.Wowforever...

I am not saying that 'art itself' is stupid. How can I say that??? I AM an artist!!!! and I happen to live in NJ, 40 minutes from NY. I have seen this work with my own eyes at the MOMA. And while I have been there I have heard people having the same reaction I had.

As BlackTopAssKicker says it *as well as at least 90% of the people here: IT SIMPLY SUCKS!

I guess we are all wrong and you are right!

Simply trash! if you are an artist, go and take a drawing class at least!

[MrWowforever]

again. the majority are rarely right, especially in art. you said 'MOMA makes you want to laugh' and your friend called it 'junk'. I do think those particular statements are quite dumb, sorry. Nowhere do i claim to be 'right'. nor do i claim to paint monochromes. I simply feel that the work at MOMA is above your trivial rage.

[BlackTopAssKicker]

What JUNK.. No wonder people think artist are stupid jerks when they see this crap and old fart ladies being impressed with it.

[rembrandtsca]

What are you talking about MrWowforever???

There's no context, there is no execution, and for sure there is no excessive labor. My point, if you know history as you pointed out, you should know that a black canvas is not rich but in comparison, POOR to what history has to offer. Anybody can hang a blank canvas, so I guess they should also be called artists!

I have blank canvases all over the studio... I should be at MOMA too! I maybe if I piss on it, The Guggenheim may take me also.

[MrWowforever]

if art is as stupid as you imply then why don't you come to new york and take over the town. if we are all stupid it should be a breeze, right? would you consider yourself an expert at boxing if you didn't know Ali? "he just punches guys, thats easy!' .........

[chandru1103]

NO. That's all I have to say, NO.

[rembrandtsca]

I guess "Evolution People", for Doublebboulbe means:

Ambiguous, Empty, Blank, Meaningless, Easy, Lacking, Unsure, Vague, Week, Lacking, Tacky, Tasteless, Deceitful, Ignorant, Sickening, Cheap looking, Irrational, Clumsy, Ridiculous, Skill-less...

BORING AND FREACKING UGLY?!!!!

[jameskalm]

This is great, I posted this video over two years ago and it still raises hackles. There's a Tony award winning play that's been running forever on Broadway called "Art" about an all white canvas and three friends opinions about it. If this issue didn't get blood boiling so much, it obviously wouldn't be so artistic.

[MrWowforever]

dear mr.kalm.......the monochrome has become an entry level invitation to piss off the uninformed. It seperates the wheat from the chaff. it demands that context be as important as execution. It eliminates skill and by design invites the opposite, excessive labor. The empty surface is rich if you know what came before (history) and as an artist, it gives the greatest permission: you are free to do anything. The monochrome angers the non-creative and liberates the artists:) thanks mr kalm!!!

[jameskalm]

Hey Wow,

this is an hilarious enigma. The white monochrome might be the ultimate goal of high Modernism or it might be the first (or last) refuge of scoundrels. If an artist ends up there after twenty years of investigation it's profound. If an artist starts, and ends there, it's a cliche. It seems less about the painting than the questions it implies, (philosophy, not painting)

[MrWowforever]

its just good fun:)

[mattier3030]

@jameskalm FUCKING GAY

[DoctorLawyerWhatever]

@jameskalm So, what makes you think that controversy, or, for that matter, a lack of it, has anything to do with something being artistic?

[jameskalm]

@DoctorLawyerWhatever Because part of art's mission is to get people to think, If something is controversial then it has at least attracted enough people to it that people are talking and thinking about it.

[cosg9531]

@jameskalm I didn't know that art had a "mission", or needed one. It is not neccesary to "get" people to think. Those who wish to think will do so, the rest will not. Quality of work should be the only attraction, and if someone responds to that by saying that quality is subjective, then they don't know what quality is, and are incapable of creating it. Controversy may generate exposure, however, it has nothing to do with quality. There is precious little quality in art. Or in anything else.

[Krzwl]

hmmm.....If one paints, writes, composes, records/plays a masterpiece and it stays in the drawer where no one can see it....is it an artistic masterpiece or not?

[JeffersonDinedAlone]

@jameskalm Carnival barkers attempt to draw people in to a freak show, as well. And after viewing it, people may talk and think about it for a time. However, does this in any way mean that it is neccesarily worthwhile? It does not. Controversy only means that people have different perspectives on something. People have different perspectives on everything. Controversy has no relevant correlation, whatsoever, to art. Controversy may generate curiosity, but that is all.

[Mcrankfan]

*Weak

*Freaking

[rembrandtsca]

TOTALLY!

[rembrandtsca]

I guess it pisses u off that you are one of the very few who has anything good to say about this bunch of garbage!

If you appreciate a BLANK CANVAS is probably because you have a BLANK BRAIN & SOUL, not because it's 2009!

Do you say anybody in this video admiring what they are seeing??? Nope!

[MrWowforever]

the majority is never right, especially in Art. your description says a lot about you :)

[rembrandtsca]

When I want to laugh, I look at this video!

What a bunch of lack of talent, skill and anything to say! I don't call this art, but trash!

[MrWowforever]

..................yawn.

[dOUBLEDDOULBE]

your an idiot ...im tired of this conservative classicale morons who still think that we life in the 1800 or in 1600.

guess what ITS 2009!!! you got that.

thats evolution people....

If you open up a history book then you know why does people do what they do.

[ChrisTube3333]

@dOUBLEDDOULBE Evolution? Its a canvas covered in white paint by a man with no artistic talent/skills for painting or anything... If thats evolution, i think we are going wrong way!!!

[tmad890]

heres an idea for all those who wish to paint a white canvas or any other color for that matter..why not paint a scene on the damn wall it will hang on, then hang the frickin blank canvas on that wall..that would say something other then i am a fraud!!!

[MrWowforever]

ignorant says what?

[tmad890]

artists that i look at, and look up for study are as follows..goya,dali,rembrant,da vinci,van gogh,picasso,munch,etc..i am moved by the flow of surealism, and abstractism that some other artists create, and admire the realism that conditioned artists can forge..my beliefs are not based on ignorence,i dont particularly agree with the direction art has gone, just because i dont agree with your opinion, doesnt make me ignorant or less schooled in art..but continue if you must..

[MrWowforever]

yawn

[tmad890]

bravo!! great words!! couldnt have said it better myself..please take the time to check out my work..i honor the greats of the past, with my style,"at least i try to"..i feel that art needs to return to a sense of quality and actual pain staking effort as well..all my work is on my channel, some old, and some new..please enjoy, and please give me your feedback..thank you

[bromet01]

Hi, Dear.

[Ludo1100]

white? seriously? i may aswell just say ive done an invsible painting and get that woman to make a whole speech on it. art is becoming less about art n more about the thought behind it.

[chandru1103]

there you go....exactly

[memocsulb]

I was sickened by the whole white painting part in this video. COME ON!! I would much rather drive these people to venice beach to see some real art, or around the L.A. river where in my opinion is real modern art. Shit go to San Fran or NY as well and you will see real colors that depict what is really going on at the time, none of this garbage white *ish! Go to your local michael's for that and buy all the canvas' you like.

[tmad890]

hey memo, take a look at my work, and tell me what you think of my art..i have five vids of my work, one is my native work, and three are all my other stuff i have done, and one is of my newest painting...i am now working on another..feel free to leave a critque if you like..

[chikinbeetle]

heheheh

[tmad890]

i being an artist, agree with you on the whole white thing..i feel that art has gotten away from what it really means to express yourself through the gift of art, and try to paint simple stuff, rather to make some kind of point, ur something...i dont buy it..i feel, if it doesnt take you a while to think it up and paint it, it isnt art..it's a wall design..thats my critique of the whole white thing..seen some..didnt like them

[chandru1103]

for starters, how do you know how long it took for the artist to think about his approach.You Don't, therefore, you are speaking from ignorance, and as an "artist" it is highly hypocritical to expect people to connect with your "art" while simultaneously ruining the experience of a blank canvas for others.

[tmad890]

are you being serious?? i have spent my whole life drawing and doing art, tought myself to draw..i can paint you standing there as you are right now, and when i see a white canvas, or as i saw a canvas with white plaster lines and penciled in circles and triangles selling for a thousand dollars at an art gallery, which i could have done in five minutes with my eyes closed..a white canvas..you serious?? go stare at a wall!!'

that is not an art expirience! if you like it,go pay 10,00 for it..

[chandru1103]

to reduce art to acedemia is ludicrous, its about using learned technique to bend the rules and take risks. they took a risk with their careers, they put themselves out there with a statement that is very complex and difficult for the "general public" to accept. So who deserves my respect (or money), the person who makes "socially acceptable" art that takes no risks and creates nothing new, or the person who makes a statement that is controversial and risky...I choose the second.

[tmad890]

have you even seen my work??..no risks?? i could easily be painting portraits of dogs or people, or even a house next to a creek that will sell for $20 at your local starving artist sale! but no!! i choose to paint what i feel, allowing my emotions to pour onto a canvas! that some find scarey..i take what art truly is, and bend the rules..i dont paint what a house painter could have done, and try selling it!

reduce art to an acedemia?? your lost in the head..

[chandru1103]

its great that you use paint as a medium for expression of emotion or an idea, its exactly what a blank canvas suggests, just in a different visual language to rule it out as "not art" would be the same as saying that Spanish isn't a real language.

[tmad890]

thank you for your compliment of my work, and taking the time to view it..and your analogy, it is more saying that ebonics isnt a language, because it is a lazy form or slang form of english..all great art before started with rigid accademics and knew structure and form, then broke away and created new rules of art..the impressionists,surealists,abst­ractists, all did this..i am trying to with my emotionism movement..thats bending the rules..

[MrWowforever]

come to New York, bring your fucking paintings and get a show from a respected gallery.....if it's that easy, then do it now, what are you waiting for...........

[tmad890]

for one, you misread my statement to another person, so that just makes you look like an arse..two,the discussion was on original style vs. a gimic..and three, i am a father of a handicapped daughter, so traveling far distances isnt an option for me,"not to mention i am poor,"

yet it seems that you have a mouth with no portfolio,or should i guess that the white canvas is yours??..my art can be seen on my channel..have a nice day!!!

[MrWowforever]

your definitions of art seem inexorably naive to me. successful artists lead all kinds of lives with all kinds of children, i know from my peers. lots of people are poor, they still come and try because it takes tremendous will power and courage to achieve. you are complaining about a show at The Museum of Modern Art, as if you are somehow more unique than all the great works the museum has. that is naive and perversely arrogant. i have no interest in looking at your art or your opinion of mine.

[tmad890]

actually great work i admire, and i love the diversity that different artists have..i hate gimics..thats not great art, and if you think that is, then you're the niave one..i have no problem with many different styles, but a white canvas is a white canvas!! and thats not in the least perversely arrogant nor niave..thats common sense!! people get a name for themselves in the art world and take art lovers for a ride,by making that type of so called art.. now thats arrogence!!

[tmad890]

to add..there are art communities much closer to home for me to get my work into, and i am working on that ..new york isn't the only art hub..lake michigan is known for it's art towns, and then there is chicago..and more over, you not having any interest in sharing only shows your arrogence..for i have many art friends, with many backgrounds..and i respect them all..and there art...

[MrWowforever]

my real name is obviously not mrwowforever because i am here at james kalms website to discuss and view art...not to talk about myself. this is not my forum, its mr kalms. Again, i think your comments are a little naive about the monochrome, etc. You brought up your family,and, with all due respect, i don't care. You feel entitled to dismiss art in a major New York museum as if you think its run by fools. Arrogant says what...?

[tmad890]

to discuss and view art...???..really??, that is why you left me a not so nice comment about bringing my f@cking art out to NY..for one, you started this, not me..and i just stated a fact, that my child makes me take a different aproach..and i dont dismiss art, i dismiss certain pieces. and it seems i am not the only one on here dismissing that piece..and of course your name aint mr.wow..but my name is tmad, at least in the art community it is..michael tmad finney..it's been a pleasure!!!

[MrWowforever]

you made a sweeping dismissal of Museum work and then had the audacity to say ' i had a mouth on me' for disagreeing with you. I think you dismissed a rich tradition of Monochrome painting, from Kasmir Malevich to Robert Rauschenberg to Ellsworth Kelly to Robert Ryman and many, many others. My anonymity is my right, if you choose to share openly, good for you. Also, the majority is almost always wrong, especially when discussing Art. I am allowed to hold different opinions. :)

[tmad890]

sweeping dismissal??..no..i disagree with one color paintings!! period!..if that includes all those artist you forementioned, then yes, i disagree with there aproach to the business of art..one color processes or even two, is a skill of a house painter..not to knock house painters, they do a great job..and true, stay unknown..i dont really care to know you..i find paintings such as those a con job, and am suprised people buy them.and thats my opinion of the matter..

[MrWowforever]

yes... a sweeping dismissal. the amount of artists who use one color OR two to convey meaning is astounding and for you to lump them all in is quite sweeping. Just to conclude, if you speak so sweepingly without a historical knowledge for what came after what, you sound ignorant. YOUR opinion is not fact, nor is mine. The monochrome tradition goes back to Egyptian(Eastern) ideas of oneness and Christianity trilogy (threeness). There are monochromatic musicians...John Cage. Poets...Mallarme. etc.

[tmad890]

so your implying that a solid white canvas is art??..then why should i even bother to calibrate physical features at all?, or make any sense what so ever with my art..i can just take food coloring into my mouth and spew them onto a canvas and say..wala!! this i call the birth of life..or how about this..i will do a series of paintings, starting with a blank canvas, and call it the begining..some people take these bending rules way to far!! back to egyptian!!, give me a break!!!

[MrWowforever]

The monochrome tradition is richer than, i think, you realize. Nothing to do with the birth of life, as you state. These far reaching notions of oneness have deep roots in philosophical traditions established throughout years of written textual evolution. I will not give you a break, but I will allow you to put your foot in your mouth yet again.

[tmad890]

no..i actually looked up your so called artists..ryman, i was not impressed with at all..a four year old could do most of that with a ruler..now kasmir, i was impressed with his cubist style, not so much on the monochrome..he at least prooved to me, that he actually had an artistic ability..your just going to have to face it, that in the art world, there are those who disagree, with what should be considered art..i dont agree with a flat color as art,now shades to form a landscape or such..yes..

[kellylynn2008]

i think we are done.

[MrWowforever]

most assuradely

[MrPasticho]

Very educational, thanks!

[Mrwolkenlos]

ha, ha, hart!

[Mrwolkenlos]

ha ha hart

[cybeavertoo]

yes, a more or less complete white painting can be very frightening

especially for those who depend on outside stimuli to get their lifes worthwhile

when u see the beauty of all the world surrounding u, a tiny gesture can offer a full satisfying experience

[MrWowforever]

Robert Ryman

[Cr3ativity]

OH WOW, look it is a white canvas! I like some art, but this one just makes me angry. This sort of reminds me of the concert "white noise" - no music, no nothing.

[MrWowforever]

Robert Ryman

[appbadder]

Great lecture, no notes required!

[rictit]

WHERE ARE THE REAL PAINTERS????the ones from Italia, France, Spain, Holland, Sweden,Russia, Japan, China, Latin American etc.ONLY AMERICANS AND GERMANS AND FROM U.K.WHAt a pity!!!!

[jameskalm]

Can you give us any individual painter's names, instead of just nations?

[Domytar]

rembrandt

[MrWowforever]

MOMA has all of these nations represented in their collection....artists like Picasso, Dekooning, Degas, etc..... the effects of world war 2 shifting the artworld center from Paris to New york has a lot to do with your euro-centric 'issue'. none of these shows are absolute judgements on history, just intelligent opinions.

[benzinator11]

moma is the shit (thats a good thing)

[aadoza]

All the "real" painters still exist of course, you'll just need to look a little harder. ;)

The art community these days is gargantuan.

The most reproduced painting ever is still the Mona Lisa, etc. Art has come a long way since the renaissance. :)

Classical art is nothing new, it's always going to be there, but in all honesty, it doesn't deserve all the focus...

[chandru1103]

if their work was any good it would transcend the location it was made in.

[flaternativety]

@rictit I m He ar.....

[chandru1103]

who freaking cares about the insight she's giving...you have speakers turn the sound down...I don't understand art snobs....you notice and complain and critique everything but the art...just sit back and enjoy Mr. Kalm has done the rest.

[sleepyhashknife]

lame!

[rown23]

you are doing good things. I'm at art school in New Zealand and I never get to see how works are actually displayed. Thank you

[Iwhineallthetime]

lol look at her bodylanguage ´´what am i talking about? why does all those ppl follow me?´´

[MrWowforever]

sometimes you have to choose your battles.....fighting about staff is tedious.

[Philippe333]

BUrN MoMA!!!!!

[uduckhead]

What is painting? Is it sculpture? Is it photography? We just don't know.

[MrWowforever]

painting is the opportunity to take all of these things and fuck it up enough to get you mad

[MrWowforever]

sorry.... my mistake. i realize we already had this discussion. mr. kalm speaks all the time about the shows he covers, i just think critiquing the staff at the museum of modern art is a little tedious.

[cybeavertoo]

mr Kalm, how is it possible u keep ur camera steady. You must have been shaking of inner laughter over this totally absurd show-off of total lack of any insight in the essence of art. Wow this women really dumbed all art possible into her arthistorians dumbhole.

[MrWowforever]

you don't like the show, fine. but to project this OPINION onto all the art in this exhibition only reveals your narrow world view. very nice to refer to this 'women' as a 'dumbhole', very nice. also to assume that anyone who takes art seriously would 'shake from inner laughter' is once again narrow!

[cybeavertoo]

dear mrWow, read more carefully.

I didnt refer to the woman as being a dumbhole

i didnt refer to this exhibition as not liking it

i dont know if mr Kalm takes this show seriously (he seldomly speaks out about what he sees)

I didnt gave my opinion on the exhibition and the work presented, some i actually like.

i expressed my dislike of the arthistorians mumblejumble, which is in MY opinion lacking any real insight into the phenomenon of art, damaging the true virtues of good art.

[sapphirerose666]

i wish i can go to that museum, and the moca.

[3945639]

shite!

[MrWowforever]

nice kippenberger at 7:20, thanks mr. kalm

[trifarr]

at 7:44 the painting is by Carroll Dunham

[asdffd]

Can anyone tell me who did the painting at 7:44. Really like it.

[PAULFISHDO]

painting at 7.44?? its pishh!!!

[jameskalm]

A Very insightful review of this exhibition by Jerry Saltz titled "Back From the Brink" appears on the September 19, edition of artnet magazine's website thanks JK

[hoomelemele]

i'm going to bookmark this and use it for my bullshit practice

[artwarstreetart]

Great!