@DanRolls666 old wives tales you and your sewing circle talked about. I own several versions of both. Build duty Leo weapon for ex mil and ex sf who are police now. They laughed when I asked if they dropped there weapon for a piece of shit beat up enemy AK. No they didn't all they did was bring it back to base and have fun shooting them before they were taken away. Once again cite your source
As with anything there's a trade off. The AK is a better machine gun. If you can actually get a bullet to hit, it will unleash hell. The M16 on the other hand is a better rifle; much more accurate and less recoil.
@nat1hnails and much more tiny details to it which makes it harder to fix and assemble M16 or any other american M series. did you know that any NATO soldier changes whatever M he is using for an AK? because AK works at any conditions, and requires much less time and instruments to fix and assemble
а вы знаете о том что все солдаты нато если у них есть возможность поменять м16 на ак 47 они бросают эту эмку и берут ак 47 кто согласен со мной палец вниз!!!!!
@Andrey1996Andrey А вы знаете что если все солдаты нато бросят своё оружие и поменяют на ак 47(кстати автомата ак47 никогда не существовало, а на вооружение ак был принят в 1949 году), то всех солдат нато ждёт трибунал и тюрьма
@ed6eron you obviously don't know shit about these fire arms Norinco aks are great versions Of the weapon. they have a beefier 1.5mm receiver and a reliable double hook FCG. slight differences in length, front sight shroud and muzzle device but over all function the same....you tell me how they are bad? You don't know you just think "made in china = crap" which shows your lack I over all knowledge of the weapon.
@mkf0528 M16 is pretty reliable as well. People keep comparing AK to an old style M16 from the Vietnam War. Take a look at the first generation AK 47, it was shit, and it took them few years to get it more reliable. Get the latest AK47 and M16A4 - totally different ball game.
хуй тебе на лысый череп это ты придкрок бля ты постреляй с м16 1 минуту и будешь ждать 30 минут пока остынет газовая камера а ак может стрелять сутками и убойная сила у него побольше
@makaronaification Ты прав, и бедные страны и террористы в том числе, но факт-то остаётся, АК использует пол мира, и это оружие весьма эффективное, для своего времени естественно.
@tehatemachine Pretty much all spitzer shaped rifle ammo has a tendency to tumble in flesh, that isn't anything special. Fragmentation of the 5.56x45 is what made it special. It can cause massive wounds. The fragmentation effect is highly inconsistent though. It's even been reported that the 5.56x45 can do wounds like that of a .22 LR.
@ECHO7AIRSOFT oh btw I own 2 ak varients, both of which are less reliable than actual AKs, and only m wasr10 has jammed once, and that was when I put sand in the chamber. My type 56 worked just fine with sand in the chamber and water down the barrel. So id say they're pretty reliable wouldn't you?
@ECHO7AIRSOFT oh and some airsoft obsessed tween with no experience with either of these guns knows exactly what he's talking about. Shitty range and accuracy? That'd be like if I said the M16 jammed every other round. I didn't know accuracy out to 200m and a range of 300m was shitty considering most firefights don't extend past 100m. Continue with airsoft son.
hhaahahhahhahaa m16 800m hhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah m16 460 m .....ak-300 full automatic 440 semi automatik ....... ak-101 1000m ak-102 500m ak-103 500m akm-1000m maximum range e 600 efective range ! it takes a good shooter who has strength to hold the gun because the Kalashnikov has a large caliber
They are both excellent guns i have shot them both but the only reason for the m16 jamming and the aks dependability is that the ak is built to a lower specification as in the parts arent exact but on an m16 the measurements are very precise
I love them both, i dont think I would be able to choose just one or the other. I used them both while in israel on a military tourism trip. We got to shoot a lot more than just those though. we shot all kinds of handguns, rifles, and even a few sniper rifles. Also go to go offroading, skydiving, and learn krav maga. The company has videos on youtube if you want to check them out, LionOps
Semi Auto Mak-90's with a match barrell and tighened tollerances are the way too go.... Takes care of AK's weakneses while maintaining its strengths....... AK is a way better weapons system in my opinion.... Full Auto is for the 240Bravo to keep heads down.... Battle rifles should be precision tools that are super reliable and durable.... Full auto in untrained hands=waste of ammo and no accuracy..... I think Full Auto is one of AKs drawbacks.
The whole idea of the AK was to throw out so much firepower as to subdue the enemy. As for accuracy, one bullet will kill you... I'll take the M-16 for urban warfare.
патрон калибра 5,45 или 5,56 с центром смещения тяжести, при попаданий в тело он вылетает через другую часть тела.К примеру если попадет в живот, в пояс то безусловно вылетает через горло, тем самым отрывает голову.А патрон калибра 7,62 просто идёт навылет.
@boognish59 Ever been hog hunting? The 5.56 penetrates fine.
I mind you, I get great grouping at 300 yards from a steady position, with great iron sights and I'm a pretty good marksman. In a firefight, you're under an incredible amount of duress, and you most likely have the selector on automatic. You want the more accurate weapon with optics that are commonly supplied.
Hitting 500 with open sights isn't stretching the capability of the weapon at all. 7.62 is justified at ranges over 800.
In Vietnam a sergeant of Marines changed the M16 with a Kalashnikov AK-47 he took from a Viet Cong prisoner. Many Americans imitated. Enraged Colonel asked his sergeant because it uses the weapon of the enemy. And he replied: "Because it works."
@boognish59 It's the shooter, not the gun. The 7.62x39 sends great grouping out to 300 yards, but I can put 5.56s downrange to over 500 yards, no optics.
@AlbanianMilitary In 2004-2007, I was issued an M16A4, and with an Aimpoint or ACOG, chest or head shots on insurgents at 500 yards isn't uncommon. I made it happen, so did my buddies.
To your second point about the selector, generally in a firefight, you don't think rationally, so most people put their rifle on full auto to put out as much lead as possible. That's one of the reason why most M16s do not have full auto, but rather burst, so encourage the accuracy that you've been taught.
@AlbanianMilitary I've used both, the Aimpoint with a 2MOA dot and the ACOG. The former takes a couple shots 2MOA at 500 yards equals roughly 10 inches, which is smaller than the human chest, but still not quite precision. The latter is sharpshooting gold.
@AlbanianMilitary 500 yards isn't much further than 300. There isn't a clear cut distance for firefights, but many machine guns that the Taliban use are effective well out to 800 yards. Not everyone stands exactly at 300, some are further back and some are closer.
@AlbanianMilitary It's not made of glass. Dip it in water, sand, whatever. Tip it so the sand falls out, and you're good. Unless you literally pour sand into the receiver, you're good.
@SSgt24thMEU I've used an AR-15 years ago; accurate and well balanced weapon. Although the first M16s were known to jam. I've read it was the gunpowder that caused this.
@SSgt24thMEU You might be able to clear something up for me; can the M16 round be used in an AK? I've heard from sources from Vietnam that it can? But others tell me no it can't.
@AlbanianMilitary In a standard AK47, no. The AK101 and the Galil are chambered in 5.56 with an AK-pattern. Also, a stainless barrel is pretty much standard for most rifles to combat corrosion (sniper rifles don't have them because they aren't as accurate as match barrels, which can't be stainless), it's mostly the round and the quick and imprecise manufacturing which makes it inaccurate.
@SSgt24thMEU I know the new AKs have been chambered for NATO. I still think Mr Kalashnikov bought the plans at a Berlin flee market. I've seen it in slow motion, the barrel distorts. And I don't think the recoil helps much. Since the AK is licensed by several Eastern European nations, do you think better tolerances and manufacturing improves the weapon or is it just the design?
@AlbanianMilitary Manufacturing. Many ARs have free floating barrels, and barrel whip ought to affect those more. A design improvement is what it really needs. I've fired the M27 (HK416), and in my opinion, that's pretty close to metaphysical rifle perfection.
But hey, I'm no expert. I'm just a dumb jarhead :P
@SSgt24thMEU You sound humble enough. You must have rank? I'll agree on the HK 416? What about the HK417? And I heard that the US were looking at the Beretta ARX-160?
@AlbanianMilitary Staff Sergeant, and I'm pretty young to get that rank. I know older sergeants. I've fired the MR762, and it's the civilian version of the 417. Excellent rifle.
Not a fan of Beretta products. I've used an M9 in combat pretty often, and its performance isn't even satisfactory. The stopping power and ergonomics aren't terrific. The ARX-160 looks like more bark than bite, or even more flash than bark. I say go with the HK. AR + gas piston can't go wrong.
@SSgt24thMEU Its a 9mil. What are you using? .40 cal.? I like the way you can interchange barrels on the ARX; it also comes fitted with a suppressor on one of the barrels.
@AlbanianMilitary The M9 is in only 9mm, for supply purposes. Not a fan of .40 Short & Weak either. In my opinion, the sidearm ought to be in .45 ACP, .357 SIG or 10mm Auto.
@AlbanianMilitary The .45 ACP is VERY accurate, one of the reasons why the 1911 is popular for competition. The 10mm was originally for the FBI, but some of the agents and officers had bitch hands and couldn't handle the recoil, so they switched to the .40 Short & Weak. The .357 is based off the 10mm.
@SSgt24thMEU Yeah! I like the term, bitch hands. .45 kicks like a mule. Can you get any range with it? I have to say I don't mind .357 and .40 cal. I have big hands so it doesn't concern me too much. The only .45 that I've handled was Chinese made, but what I've seen of the American made, I like.
@AlbanianMilitary A solid 1911 has a gentle kick as far as I'm concerned (then again, to me, the .357 has a reasonable kick), and hitting billiards balls at 50 feet (my friends and I tried to replicate Top Shot) isn't a problem if you're a good shot. I honestly prefer the .357 SIG.
@SSgt24thMEU It only takes a few seconds to change barrels on the ARX. But then again, the US is going to use ts firearm manufacturer rather than go with a foreign piece.
And sir I respect you because you have tactically used both and respect your choice for that fact alone. You sir (from what you've said) used one in combat and the other in tac classes which makes you have a valid opinion that I will and do respect.
Plus my tac reloads are slightly slower then my ar ones. I get hits with both and I love both or I wouldn't use both. I personally like a good tier 1 AR. Buy a bad ak is way better then a bad AR
@boognish59 I do agree 1st timers at the carbine class end up stripping half there tacticool gear after the 1st day and some instructors shouldn't be instructors.
I like the ak to sir and thank you for your service. No high horse here you manipulated both rifles and like the ak beter I can respect that. I own a few (sgl21, wasr10 sgl31) my gripe is with the people who talk out there ass saying its the bestist rifle of all time and the only one they handled was in cod.
I own an ak but the simple fact of the matter is that the guys that use the m16's are the one's that run the world...all in all it seems the m16 platform has come out on top...What do you do if an ak 47 is shooting at you? Stand still...and when he finishes shooting your outline...pop his ass in the head with your m16
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I've been laughing the whole time u crack me up. I don't know what I was proved wrong about and taking training and being an armorer are very valid arguments. Lol your arguments are haphazard " I saw this I hear this oh yeah I shot my brothers " lol. Ok champ you win your all knowing. Have a good one.
Well the cursing and persistancy are signs of anger... You dont seem very amused. And using invalid arguments, saying things that arent close to true even after proved wrong, are sure signs of anger.
@elox02 im not a pyschologist its just easy to see that ur getting really pissed for no good reason and that you refuse to give up which is a pretty obvious sign of insecurity, which you dont need to be a pyschologist to notice.
Nope sir far from it. Nice try though, to twist the subject back to about something that doesn't have to do with anything about firearms because you've show your lack of knowledge in that already. Lol You crack me up. Now your the leading authority in psychology.
@elox02 really? because you seem pretty frustrated and mad and defensive over nothing.. If you're insecure or have low self esteem just say it. Theres nothing wrong with that...
@elox02 lol crackbaby was my nickname my friends gave me when I was in high school. And I dont wanna own several guns a handgun is enough for me. And you said more than once that the previous statement you made would be ur last.. But u keep coming back. Awww am I making you feel insecure about yourself? :(
And the name crackbaby makes you credible. I've been shooting and tac shooting for over 20 Years you inexperienced prick. I build weapons people's lives depend on so take your range ninja borrowed weapons elsewhere. I done dealing with you. Go back to your small range world.
@elox02 there you go with the blind accusations again... I shoot guns more often than you do yet im inexperienced because I dont build them and I didnt take a "tactical carbine course". Also keep using "bro" makes you sound real credible..
I'm sure you'll get the last word in but I'm done here. Waste my time Tzar or rifles o lord of the range. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. Lol.
You rent guns and borrow friends gun while you shoot your pistols Bro. Your very inexperienced in this field sir but you obviously know your shit better than me Lol. Range ninja. I'll go back to building rifles for LEO buddies and running tactical courses you go back to renting range guns and borrowing your friends. Lol. U are a joke. Sound like a young guy trying to act like a big boy
@elox02 I honestly cant even tell if you are trolling or just plain stupid. Even after I answer your questions or prove you wrong you persist and make blind accusations. and saying I have slightly more knowledge than a "cod ass clown" is pretty ironic considering you have a cod video favorited...i wanted to have a civilized discussion but apparently thats too much for you to handle...
Go away sir. You have slightly more knowledge than a cod ass clown I'm done here sir. Seriously run a tactical carbine class at the very least before you open your mouth. Run the guns hard range ninja
@elox02 stop acting like such an ass if u dont even read my comments properly. And il say it again the rounds I fire are inexpensive so I fire 1000+ rounds almost everytime I go there. But go ahead keep talking out of ur ass asking questions ive already answered or saying I have no "experience" when I already told you a countless amount of times I shoot weekley.
@elox02 did u read my comments? .22 and 9mm arent the only rounds I shoot... I fire .223s and .762s from the ars and aks I fire. The .22s and 9mms are for my glock and a .22 luger they have there
.22 and 9mm is far from running a tactical carbine... I'm done here with Internet commandos and borrowing friends rifles and Internet hearsay sir. Your knowledge is based on almost nothing. This be my last reply. When I shoot I run 1000-2000 rds
@elox02 mine is weekley as well. Usually 2 or 3 times a week and on the weekends. The rounds there are pretty cheap since the actual bullets are made of brass and not steel so they melt down the shells and manufacture more. I also have a yearly membership so the few times a buy 9mm or .22 rounds its very inexpensive so im able to shoot very often even when im on a budget.
@elox02 theres I firing range a few minutes away from where I live in lakewood nj called "shore shot" its an indoor shooting range and sometimes I rent guns there but most of the time I bring my glock 17 or my friends or my brothers guns
@elox02 lack of experience? I couldve sworn I told you I fire both among other guns as well, on a daily basis. What just becausei havent been shot at or built guns for the army I dont have "experience"? And if you cant respect my opinion I cant respect yours
Never said I was a soldier I said I've built fir soldiers that are now LEOs rifles. I did say I've been through several tac carbine training and shoot with local swat. I've built several and own 20+ firearms. I've run em hard and dirty. The AR platform is way more adaptable in my EXPERIENCE. I just can't respect your opinion with your lack of experience
@elox02 look you are a soldier right? I respect ur opinion. Other soldiers have backed mine. Gun experts (ive met gun collecters enthusists, veterans) ive talked to all said the ak is better. I shoot them both on a regular basis. I find stoners quote yourself. Im on my phone and it wont let me comment more than twice in like half a hour
Cite that quote from Eugene stoner I have to call bullshit on that And I don't think the ak is shit either. Hmmm what makes an arms expert? Building them for LEOs. Taking through tac carbine classes. Shooting both platforms for 1/3 if my life and being a certified armorer? Guess not your Internet knowledge and hearsay knowledge beats mine.
So youve really got me wrong im not saying the ar platform is shit. As a matter a fact I think the newer varients are among the best of the best, but I cant say its better than an ak varient. But like ive said, thats my opinion. I dont want to get into a debate over which gun is better considering theyre both good. The only ars that sucked were the m16a1 and the a2.
I never said I hated the ak. I own a few. I see them run in tac carbine classes all the time rarely come out on top. Shit I've used one. All this "I heard I saw on Internet my bro has one" bullshit no real hands on. Take a carbine class with both then form an opinion which still might be ak but at least then I can respect the opinion. My friend loved his in the service an had me build his for patrol rifle in PD.
@elox02 like I said ive never seen combat and again I dont plan on it... And I research both weapons and fire them all the time. And to call the ak shit is really ignorant. Considering many more people have been killed by ak varient weapons than ar varient weapons. And again every single gun expert ive asked has always said the ak is a superior rifle to the ar. Even eugene stoner said the ak is better than his design.
I've been through a handful of carbine classes, shot with our local swat team at our range own several variants of both rifles an others put 2000+ rounds down range in these classes I've built several ARs. What tour experience other than shoot big brothers rifles. Lol
Because of people with limited experience shooting you brothers ak spout of overhyped secondary info...I like the ak and it would perform if needed I used it in a carbine class but my AR is still the overall better platform. Why do others use it? Because Russia and china dumped them on shit countries for cheap. Do I think ak is shit...nope I like my sgl21 and vepr. I just like the AR platform better. I leave the aks for poor untrained peasants.
And to both elox and geek with a shotgun if the ak is so terrible and the ar so much better than why is the ak considered by many to be the greatest assault rifle of all time? And I also so a video of a group of soldiers in afghanistan or iraq I cant remember, but they were saying how they prefer the ak over their issued weapons.
@AGeekWithAShotgun the ak has a better combat record in almost every situation. Dont just count afghanistan. And optics can crack or break. And ur ar is more reliable than an ak? Im sorry but that I will never believe. And the whole layout sucking thing, I personally like the layout of the ak better and find it more comfortable to shoot an ak then an ar. But ur entitled to ur opinion as am i
Well I'll take the road of both weapons are good. I'll take my tier one home built BCM/Spikes 14.5" midy any day and you can have your brothers ak. Like I said I OWN AND BUILT several of each 2 for LEOs but I wouldn't be upset if all I had was my SGL21. My experience is more than just my brother owns one of each.
The aks layout is not good. No bolt hold open and the safety sucks, sights suck, mounting anything on it sucks, tactical reloads suck, no modern military uses it anymore. Ive built and own both. The AR style weapon is a better weapon. An idiot can use an ak. I'd rather not be the idiot.
@elox02 also to call any ar superior to an ak is just not right. Way more countries use the ak or have made copies of the ak. It has a much better record in combat. In terms of if ur shooting from far away I would obviously grab the ar without a 2nd thought, but within 300m its gonna be the ak. In most combat situations the ak would be better suited. In some tho the ar would be.
@elox02 ive fired both and my brother owns both and in a combat situation an ak would be better. Shouldnt one thing that really pop out in ur head be the fact that we're comparing the oldest ak to the newest ar? Doesnt that say anything to you? And optics have disadvantages as well since they run off batteries, can get shattered and add weight. Iron sights will never let you down. And personally I hate it when bolts stay open. Thats just a matter of opinion.
Iron sights ALWAYS let you down due to the virtue of the fact that you must line up to points on your rifle in comparison to just having to only using 1 point on an optic.
"they run off batteries, can get shattered and add weight"
T6 Aluminum does not "shatter". They are not very heavy; if you're complaining of it adding weight ot the rifle, I highly recommend you start weight training and weight lifting.
@crackbaby1058 Notice how none of your knowledge you base your opinion on is first hand? I own several of each and I'd take my BCM m4gery 14.5" midy any day over my sgl21 ak clone if I had a choice...the AR is just a better more flexible weapon platform. Better ergos/sights, bolt hold open better mag release and reload ergos
Because it's logical to hate a key function that allows you to tell when your rifle is out of ammunition, and the fact it allows for quicker reloads, right?
@SSgt24thMEU all in all the ak is better. The so called terrible accuracy of the ak is also bs. I saw a video of a guy shooting a target with an ak from 800m away. Ive also talked to many veterans and gun experts and theyve ALL said the ak is better. Although you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that and your service to the military. Ive never seen combat and I dont plan to but ive fired both weapons numerous times.
" I saw a video of a guy shooting a target with an ak from 800m away."
It's capable of shooting at 800m, but it's ostensible to assume that it can CONSISTANTLY hit a target at 800m. The difference is that an AR-15 can hit coin sized targets while an AK can only hit man-sized targets.
"Chances of an ar platform gun jamming is far higher than the chances of an ak47 jamming"
My DPMS AR-15 has a piston kit installed and has SUPERIOR reliability than AKs do.
@SSgt24thMEU also if ur in combat ur gun is gonna get dirty. U cant stop that no matter how careful u are. Chances of an ar platform gun jamming is far higher than the chances of an ak47 jamming. You could bury in ak for years and dig it back up beat it to hell with a hammer, throw water down the barrel and put mud in the chamber and it will still work
@SSgt24thMEU the ak is still better. Ur not gonna be engaging a target at 600m with an assault rifle so all that extra accuracy of the m16 isnt a big advantage. Most firefights dont happen past 300m so the ak is fine. Also it weighs a lilttle more, so what? It doesnt make much of a difference unless ur 90 pounds. All the pros of the ak more than outweigh the pros of the m16 and it has less cons than the m16
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197312011 3 days ago
AK 47!!!
TheJaugen 4 days ago
AK74U fucks evry gun
snowdream300 4 days ago
AK74U
snowdream300 4 days ago
looks like stuff they took from google images and wikipedia
DrS3xy 4 days ago
the m16 is good but i really prefer ak47 in a street battles
thelotrismylife 4 days ago
@DanRolls666 old wives tales you and your sewing circle talked about. I own several versions of both. Build duty Leo weapon for ex mil and ex sf who are police now. They laughed when I asked if they dropped there weapon for a piece of shit beat up enemy AK. No they didn't all they did was bring it back to base and have fun shooting them before they were taken away. Once again cite your source
elox02 6 days ago
@DanRolls666 show me documented proof NATO troops drop there issued fully supported weapon for one that is not.
elox02 6 days ago
@MegaSovietRussian your full of shit and don't know shit.
elox02 6 days ago
@elox02 But he is right -_-
DanRolls666 6 days ago 2
тупой вброс жЫрно
Evgen32100 6 days ago
As with anything there's a trade off. The AK is a better machine gun. If you can actually get a bullet to hit, it will unleash hell. The M16 on the other hand is a better rifle; much more accurate and less recoil.
nat1hnails 6 days ago
@nat1hnails and much more tiny details to it which makes it harder to fix and assemble M16 or any other american M series. did you know that any NATO soldier changes whatever M he is using for an AK? because AK works at any conditions, and requires much less time and instruments to fix and assemble
MegaSovietRussian 6 days ago
everyone know the most used weapon is AK ... maybe have reason for this?:}
Cuecuatsu 1 week ago
@Cuecuatsu because the ak-47 will fire in any condition,it is not as unaccurate as most people think it is and is a very strong machine gun
brakuda66 6 days ago
а вы знаете о том что все солдаты нато если у них есть возможность поменять м16 на ак 47 они бросают эту эмку и берут ак 47 кто согласен со мной палец вниз!!!!!
Andrey1996Andrey 1 week ago 13
@Andrey1996Andrey А вы знаете что если все солдаты нато бросят своё оружие и поменяют на ак 47(кстати автомата ак47 никогда не существовало, а на вооружение ак был принят в 1949 году), то всех солдат нато ждёт трибунал и тюрьма
12233956 3 days ago
ак рулит эмка отдыхает
Stem385 1 week ago
@ed6eron you obviously don't know shit about these fire arms Norinco aks are great versions Of the weapon. they have a beefier 1.5mm receiver and a reliable double hook FCG. slight differences in length, front sight shroud and muzzle device but over all function the same....you tell me how they are bad? You don't know you just think "made in china = crap" which shows your lack I over all knowledge of the weapon.
elox02 1 week ago
пусть сравнят с АКМ
ADBOYxxxxxx 1 week ago
ваш м 16 гавно ебучие америкосы соите хуй
ilyats1990 1 week ago
The m16 would be better to me
BFHDUDE10 1 week ago
at 2:49 that's not an ak 47 thats a chinese copy it's name is type 56 and it suck ass
ed6eron 1 week ago
м16 гораздо красивее,но ак47 гораздо лучше в качестве оружия)
ProTotype8683 1 week ago
I say AK 47 better because i have studied both of them
MrMafiaSniper 1 week ago
AK is more reliable and thats about it. M16 is more accurate and has better ballistics.
mkf0528 2 weeks ago 4
@mkf0528 M16 is pretty reliable as well. People keep comparing AK to an old style M16 from the Vietnam War. Take a look at the first generation AK 47, it was shit, and it took them few years to get it more reliable. Get the latest AK47 and M16A4 - totally different ball game.
sirokko090 1 week ago
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PVDHP 2 weeks ago
хуй тебе на лысый череп это ты придкрок бля ты постреляй с м16 1 минуту и будешь ждать 30 минут пока остынет газовая камера а ак может стрелять сутками и убойная сила у него побольше
aaaaaaaaaa516 2 weeks ago
Everebody knows AK 47 is better ))
RifleAngelWaterfall 2 weeks ago
Pussys shoot m16 because they cant handle a gun and they need "fore grips" and bipods just to shoot...fags man..ak47 all the way bitches.
RedTurtleHQ 2 weeks ago
@RedTurtleHQ lol, have you seen M16 and Ak47 in your life ?
sirokko090 1 week ago
@sirokko090 Yes and ive shot both.
RedTurtleHQ 1 week ago
i prefer the m16 has more accurate because she has lees recoil
jcbonilla77 2 weeks ago
AK!!!!
MrEminemTv 2 weeks ago
@makaronaification А самый главный террорист это США, которые воюют по всей планете и несут людям "демократию".
HEBOJIbHUK 2 weeks ago 17
@makaronaification и кстати, что такое "normal normal language"?
HEBOJIbHUK 2 weeks ago
@makaronaification Ты прав, и бедные страны и террористы в том числе, но факт-то остаётся, АК использует пол мира, и это оружие весьма эффективное, для своего времени естественно.
HEBOJIbHUK 2 weeks ago
Alot of people underestimate the 5.56
Many who claim it's a dinky round don't understand that when that bullet hits it's target. IT tumbles. It also travels REALLY FAST.
tehatemachine 2 weeks ago
@tehatemachine Pretty much all spitzer shaped rifle ammo has a tendency to tumble in flesh, that isn't anything special. Fragmentation of the 5.56x45 is what made it special. It can cause massive wounds. The fragmentation effect is highly inconsistent though. It's even been reported that the 5.56x45 can do wounds like that of a .22 LR.
esh325 2 weeks ago
most of people think M(family) the guns are pretty and moderns and I think the AK (family) the guns are pretty and poweful
MegaArtur1997 3 weeks ago
@ECHO7AIRSOFT oh btw I own 2 ak varients, both of which are less reliable than actual AKs, and only m wasr10 has jammed once, and that was when I put sand in the chamber. My type 56 worked just fine with sand in the chamber and water down the barrel. So id say they're pretty reliable wouldn't you?
crackbaby1058 3 weeks ago
@ECHO7AIRSOFT oh and some airsoft obsessed tween with no experience with either of these guns knows exactly what he's talking about. Shitty range and accuracy? That'd be like if I said the M16 jammed every other round. I didn't know accuracy out to 200m and a range of 300m was shitty considering most firefights don't extend past 100m. Continue with airsoft son.
crackbaby1058 3 weeks ago
I've got several videos of an ak 47 saiga... Check them out!!!
19NilknarF92 3 weeks ago
AK isn't as great or as reliable as people make it out to be.
Shitty range + Shitty accuracy = AK-47 (Shitty gun)
Stopping power and reliability isn't everything.
ECHO7AIRSOFT 3 weeks ago
hhaahahhahhahaa m16 800m hhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah m16 460 m .....ak-300 full automatic 440 semi automatik ....... ak-101 1000m ak-102 500m ak-103 500m akm-1000m maximum range e 600 efective range ! it takes a good shooter who has strength to hold the gun because the Kalashnikov has a large caliber
MIKELDOMKRALBURRELSI 2 months ago
i havent heard this song in like 5 years
angrybosnian 2 months ago
why don.t I see russian army whith AK in his video...here is only niggaz and everything. where's russians?
shprotos85 2 months ago
They are both excellent guns i have shot them both but the only reason for the m16 jamming and the aks dependability is that the ak is built to a lower specification as in the parts arent exact but on an m16 the measurements are very precise
bannablitz247 2 months ago
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TraviBurke 2 months ago
Semi Auto Mak-90's with a match barrell and tighened tollerances are the way too go.... Takes care of AK's weakneses while maintaining its strengths....... AK is a way better weapons system in my opinion.... Full Auto is for the 240Bravo to keep heads down.... Battle rifles should be precision tools that are super reliable and durable.... Full auto in untrained hands=waste of ammo and no accuracy..... I think Full Auto is one of AKs drawbacks.
Ninjabarbour 2 months ago
The whole idea of the AK was to throw out so much firepower as to subdue the enemy. As for accuracy, one bullet will kill you... I'll take the M-16 for urban warfare.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
Какая разница из чего убивать людей.
Lespaduke 2 months ago
патрон калибра 5,45 или 5,56 с центром смещения тяжести, при попаданий в тело он вылетает через другую часть тела.К примеру если попадет в живот, в пояс то безусловно вылетает через горло, тем самым отрывает голову.А патрон калибра 7,62 просто идёт навылет.
MrLedfort070 2 months ago
автомат калашникова лучше американской железной трубки
MrLedfort070 2 months ago
@boognish59 Ever been hog hunting? The 5.56 penetrates fine.
I mind you, I get great grouping at 300 yards from a steady position, with great iron sights and I'm a pretty good marksman. In a firefight, you're under an incredible amount of duress, and you most likely have the selector on automatic. You want the more accurate weapon with optics that are commonly supplied.
Hitting 500 with open sights isn't stretching the capability of the weapon at all. 7.62 is justified at ranges over 800.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU If you have the selector on full auto in a firefight, who's fault is that?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
In Vietnam a sergeant of Marines changed the M16 with a Kalashnikov AK-47 he took from a Viet Cong prisoner. Many Americans imitated. Enraged Colonel asked his sergeant because it uses the weapon of the enemy. And he replied: "Because it works."
barou7 2 months ago
ак - рулит . м16 на втором месте пусть будет так уж и быть :)
24GAGAGA24 2 months ago
VN war: AK-47 vs M16+M48+M41+M107+F-4+F-105+B-54
Ak-47 won
VaegirKnight 2 months ago
@boognish59 It's the shooter, not the gun. The 7.62x39 sends great grouping out to 300 yards, but I can put 5.56s downrange to over 500 yards, no optics.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU You can put 5.56s downrange to what effect? Zilch!
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary In 2004-2007, I was issued an M16A4, and with an Aimpoint or ACOG, chest or head shots on insurgents at 500 yards isn't uncommon. I made it happen, so did my buddies.
To your second point about the selector, generally in a firefight, you don't think rationally, so most people put their rifle on full auto to put out as much lead as possible. That's one of the reason why most M16s do not have full auto, but rather burst, so encourage the accuracy that you've been taught.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU Aimpoint or ACOG? High tech has taken over the sharpshooters' role.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary I've used both, the Aimpoint with a 2MOA dot and the ACOG. The former takes a couple shots 2MOA at 500 yards equals roughly 10 inches, which is smaller than the human chest, but still not quite precision. The latter is sharpshooting gold.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU What kind of conditions are we talkiing about?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary Roughly 95-100F, little to no wind, very dry. Ideal climate. In the late summer months the wind is pretty high though
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU And your platoon were being engaged at this distance?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary 500 yards isn't much further than 300. There isn't a clear cut distance for firefights, but many machine guns that the Taliban use are effective well out to 800 yards. Not everyone stands exactly at 300, some are further back and some are closer.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU Well, it's an accurate weapon. Do they still have problems jamming? If you drop it in sand will it still fire?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary It's not made of glass. Dip it in water, sand, whatever. Tip it so the sand falls out, and you're good. Unless you literally pour sand into the receiver, you're good.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU I've used an AR-15 years ago; accurate and well balanced weapon. Although the first M16s were known to jam. I've read it was the gunpowder that caused this.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary It was also the lack of chrome lined parts.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU You might be able to clear something up for me; can the M16 round be used in an AK? I've heard from sources from Vietnam that it can? But others tell me no it can't.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary In a standard AK47, no. The AK101 and the Galil are chambered in 5.56 with an AK-pattern. Also, a stainless barrel is pretty much standard for most rifles to combat corrosion (sniper rifles don't have them because they aren't as accurate as match barrels, which can't be stainless), it's mostly the round and the quick and imprecise manufacturing which makes it inaccurate.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU I know the new AKs have been chambered for NATO. I still think Mr Kalashnikov bought the plans at a Berlin flee market. I've seen it in slow motion, the barrel distorts. And I don't think the recoil helps much. Since the AK is licensed by several Eastern European nations, do you think better tolerances and manufacturing improves the weapon or is it just the design?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary Manufacturing. Many ARs have free floating barrels, and barrel whip ought to affect those more. A design improvement is what it really needs. I've fired the M27 (HK416), and in my opinion, that's pretty close to metaphysical rifle perfection.
But hey, I'm no expert. I'm just a dumb jarhead :P
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU You sound humble enough. You must have rank? I'll agree on the HK 416? What about the HK417? And I heard that the US were looking at the Beretta ARX-160?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary Staff Sergeant, and I'm pretty young to get that rank. I know older sergeants. I've fired the MR762, and it's the civilian version of the 417. Excellent rifle.
Not a fan of Beretta products. I've used an M9 in combat pretty often, and its performance isn't even satisfactory. The stopping power and ergonomics aren't terrific. The ARX-160 looks like more bark than bite, or even more flash than bark. I say go with the HK. AR + gas piston can't go wrong.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU Its a 9mil. What are you using? .40 cal.? I like the way you can interchange barrels on the ARX; it also comes fitted with a suppressor on one of the barrels.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary The M9 is in only 9mm, for supply purposes. Not a fan of .40 Short & Weak either. In my opinion, the sidearm ought to be in .45 ACP, .357 SIG or 10mm Auto.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU .45ACP can't be too accurate? I like the .357, but I thought the 10mm was developed for law enforcement. (FBI)
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary The .45 ACP is VERY accurate, one of the reasons why the 1911 is popular for competition. The 10mm was originally for the FBI, but some of the agents and officers had bitch hands and couldn't handle the recoil, so they switched to the .40 Short & Weak. The .357 is based off the 10mm.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU Yeah! I like the term, bitch hands. .45 kicks like a mule. Can you get any range with it? I have to say I don't mind .357 and .40 cal. I have big hands so it doesn't concern me too much. The only .45 that I've handled was Chinese made, but what I've seen of the American made, I like.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary A solid 1911 has a gentle kick as far as I'm concerned (then again, to me, the .357 has a reasonable kick), and hitting billiards balls at 50 feet (my friends and I tried to replicate Top Shot) isn't a problem if you're a good shot. I honestly prefer the .357 SIG.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU Resting or standing?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary Standing. Resting would've been too easy ;)
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU That's good shooting, even at that distance.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary Integral suppressors are nothing new. You can swap barrels and calibers on many AR-platform rifles.
SSgt24thMEU 2 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU It only takes a few seconds to change barrels on the ARX. But then again, the US is going to use ts firearm manufacturer rather than go with a foreign piece.
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
@AlbanianMilitary Is that why the majority of guns in use by the US army are European? :)
Robdgnl 2 months ago
@Robdgnl Are they?
AlbanianMilitary 1 month ago
@SSgt24thMEU Are you a gunsmith? If the AK barrel was made out of stainless steel, would this improve its accuracy?
AlbanianMilitary 2 months ago
ВЫСТРЕЛ С АК-47 ПРОБИВАЕТ РЕЛЬС!!! ЕЩЁ ВОПРОСЫ???
sotskywar 2 months ago
@sotskywar с СВД - да. (7.62x54)
с АК - нет (7.62х39)
Наибольшее калечение внутренностей доставляет 5,45 или 5,56 по сравнению с 7.62х39 из-за нихкой массы пули. 7.62 пролетит навылет.
PSXDooMERR 2 months ago
"пока у русского солдата
есть пули, спички, самогон
сосите йух солдаты НАТО!
дрожи от страха, Пентагон!"
nhehk 2 months ago
АК47 best!
ksf1998 2 months ago 34
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@ksf1998
M16 better accurate and Ak47 more power AK has to much recoil .i prefer the m16 has more accurate because she has lees recoil.
jcbonilla77 2 weeks ago
And sir I respect you because you have tactically used both and respect your choice for that fact alone. You sir (from what you've said) used one in combat and the other in tac classes which makes you have a valid opinion that I will and do respect.
elox02 2 months ago
Plus my tac reloads are slightly slower then my ar ones. I get hits with both and I love both or I wouldn't use both. I personally like a good tier 1 AR. Buy a bad ak is way better then a bad AR
elox02 2 months ago
@boognish59 I do agree 1st timers at the carbine class end up stripping half there tacticool gear after the 1st day and some instructors shouldn't be instructors.
elox02 2 months ago
I like the ak to sir and thank you for your service. No high horse here you manipulated both rifles and like the ak beter I can respect that. I own a few (sgl21, wasr10 sgl31) my gripe is with the people who talk out there ass saying its the bestist rifle of all time and the only one they handled was in cod.
elox02 2 months ago
I own an ak but the simple fact of the matter is that the guys that use the m16's are the one's that run the world...all in all it seems the m16 platform has come out on top...What do you do if an ak 47 is shooting at you? Stand still...and when he finishes shooting your outline...pop his ass in the head with your m16
TheJaxonj 2 months ago
1:14 РУЧКА НА ПЛАСТЫРЕ, ВО ЛОШАРА!!!
MegaAlexey1993 2 months ago
Imageshack is for images, Youtube is for videos
zerghalo2 2 months ago
Ak "family" are the clear winner in this competision against the M-16 "family" in a war!
MrCastodian 2 months ago 16
@MrCastodian if ak's are winners then why do the guys that use m16's run the world?Answer that mr. ak
TheJaxonj 2 months ago
@TheJaxonj Is thats the proof that you rule the world becuse you build the best assault rifles?
Who runs the world by the way?
MrCastodian 2 months ago
m16 or m4?
Moiskacion 2 months ago
song called hey ya by out kast
kylong743 2 months ago
YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH YAAAAAAH!
f0ngtasticXD 2 months ago
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Daynknight1001 2 months ago
Hey Ya! OutKast , The Song ;) Enjoy
LAKU11000 2 months ago
what is the name of that song
The2468101214161 3 months ago
@The2468101214161 IDK its from the 90's i remember hearing it on the radio long time ago
charkee167 2 months ago
AK !
Apocaalyp 3 months ago
AK wins..
zerocker45 3 months ago
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@elox02 you done yet? I cant argue with someone who cant even read comments properly.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
I've been laughing the whole time u crack me up. I don't know what I was proved wrong about and taking training and being an armorer are very valid arguments. Lol your arguments are haphazard " I saw this I hear this oh yeah I shot my brothers " lol. Ok champ you win your all knowing. Have a good one.
elox02 3 months ago
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Well the cursing and persistancy are signs of anger... You dont seem very amused. And using invalid arguments, saying things that arent close to true even after proved wrong, are sure signs of anger.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Lol. For from pissed. Mr projection
elox02 3 months ago
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@elox02 im not a pyschologist its just easy to see that ur getting really pissed for no good reason and that you refuse to give up which is a pretty obvious sign of insecurity, which you dont need to be a pyschologist to notice.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Nope sir far from it. Nice try though, to twist the subject back to about something that doesn't have to do with anything about firearms because you've show your lack of knowledge in that already. Lol You crack me up. Now your the leading authority in psychology.
elox02 3 months ago
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@elox02 really? because you seem pretty frustrated and mad and defensive over nothing.. If you're insecure or have low self esteem just say it. Theres nothing wrong with that...
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Nope sir not at all. Pissant like you crack me up.
elox02 3 months ago
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@elox02 lol crackbaby was my nickname my friends gave me when I was in high school. And I dont wanna own several guns a handgun is enough for me. And you said more than once that the previous statement you made would be ur last.. But u keep coming back. Awww am I making you feel insecure about yourself? :(
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
And the name crackbaby makes you credible. I've been shooting and tac shooting for over 20 Years you inexperienced prick. I build weapons people's lives depend on so take your range ninja borrowed weapons elsewhere. I done dealing with you. Go back to your small range world.
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 there you go with the blind accusations again... I shoot guns more often than you do yet im inexperienced because I dont build them and I didnt take a "tactical carbine course". Also keep using "bro" makes you sound real credible..
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
I'm sure you'll get the last word in but I'm done here. Waste my time Tzar or rifles o lord of the range. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. Lol.
elox02 3 months ago
You rent guns and borrow friends gun while you shoot your pistols Bro. Your very inexperienced in this field sir but you obviously know your shit better than me Lol. Range ninja. I'll go back to building rifles for LEO buddies and running tactical courses you go back to renting range guns and borrowing your friends. Lol. U are a joke. Sound like a young guy trying to act like a big boy
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 I honestly cant even tell if you are trolling or just plain stupid. Even after I answer your questions or prove you wrong you persist and make blind accusations. and saying I have slightly more knowledge than a "cod ass clown" is pretty ironic considering you have a cod video favorited...i wanted to have a civilized discussion but apparently thats too much for you to handle...
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Go away sir. You have slightly more knowledge than a cod ass clown I'm done here sir. Seriously run a tactical carbine class at the very least before you open your mouth. Run the guns hard range ninja
elox02 3 months ago
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@elox02 stop acting like such an ass if u dont even read my comments properly. And il say it again the rounds I fire are inexpensive so I fire 1000+ rounds almost everytime I go there. But go ahead keep talking out of ur ass asking questions ive already answered or saying I have no "experience" when I already told you a countless amount of times I shoot weekley.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@elox02 did u read my comments? .22 and 9mm arent the only rounds I shoot... I fire .223s and .762s from the ars and aks I fire. The .22s and 9mms are for my glock and a .22 luger they have there
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
.22 and 9mm is far from running a tactical carbine... I'm done here with Internet commandos and borrowing friends rifles and Internet hearsay sir. Your knowledge is based on almost nothing. This be my last reply. When I shoot I run 1000-2000 rds
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 mine is weekley as well. Usually 2 or 3 times a week and on the weekends. The rounds there are pretty cheap since the actual bullets are made of brass and not steel so they melt down the shells and manufacture more. I also have a yearly membership so the few times a buy 9mm or .22 rounds its very inexpensive so im able to shoot very often even when im on a budget.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Weekly for me I have another job and even 7.62x 39 prices arent what they were in the 90s so daily is expensive. Weekly is fine by me
elox02 3 months ago
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Well I own my aks and ARs and do tactical training 2ce a year and certified armorer for 6 yrs. You said u fired your brothers lol
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 theres I firing range a few minutes away from where I live in lakewood nj called "shore shot" its an indoor shooting range and sometimes I rent guns there but most of the time I bring my glock 17 or my friends or my brothers guns
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Mines more weekly. But I train teach and am armorer may I ask were and how u fire daily
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 not just my brothers... Ive fired many and il say it again, I fire them on a dialy basis.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Well I own my aks and ARs and do tactical training 2ce a year and certified armorer for 6 yrs. You said u fired your brothers lol
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 lack of experience? I couldve sworn I told you I fire both among other guns as well, on a daily basis. What just becausei havent been shot at or built guns for the army I dont have "experience"? And if you cant respect my opinion I cant respect yours
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Never said I was a soldier I said I've built fir soldiers that are now LEOs rifles. I did say I've been through several tac carbine training and shoot with local swat. I've built several and own 20+ firearms. I've run em hard and dirty. The AR platform is way more adaptable in my EXPERIENCE. I just can't respect your opinion with your lack of experience
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 sorry it mightve been the 74 eugene stoner said was better but im not sure. Look for it.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@elox02 look you are a soldier right? I respect ur opinion. Other soldiers have backed mine. Gun experts (ive met gun collecters enthusists, veterans) ive talked to all said the ak is better. I shoot them both on a regular basis. I find stoners quote yourself. Im on my phone and it wont let me comment more than twice in like half a hour
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Cite that quote from Eugene stoner I have to call bullshit on that And I don't think the ak is shit either. Hmmm what makes an arms expert? Building them for LEOs. Taking through tac carbine classes. Shooting both platforms for 1/3 if my life and being a certified armorer? Guess not your Internet knowledge and hearsay knowledge beats mine.
elox02 3 months ago
So youve really got me wrong im not saying the ar platform is shit. As a matter a fact I think the newer varients are among the best of the best, but I cant say its better than an ak varient. But like ive said, thats my opinion. I dont want to get into a debate over which gun is better considering theyre both good. The only ars that sucked were the m16a1 and the a2.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
What makes an expert? Building doing tactical training?
elox02 3 months ago
I never said I hated the ak. I own a few. I see them run in tac carbine classes all the time rarely come out on top. Shit I've used one. All this "I heard I saw on Internet my bro has one" bullshit no real hands on. Take a carbine class with both then form an opinion which still might be ak but at least then I can respect the opinion. My friend loved his in the service an had me build his for patrol rifle in PD.
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 like I said ive never seen combat and again I dont plan on it... And I research both weapons and fire them all the time. And to call the ak shit is really ignorant. Considering many more people have been killed by ak varient weapons than ar varient weapons. And again every single gun expert ive asked has always said the ak is a superior rifle to the ar. Even eugene stoner said the ak is better than his design.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
I've been through a handful of carbine classes, shot with our local swat team at our range own several variants of both rifles an others put 2000+ rounds down range in these classes I've built several ARs. What tour experience other than shoot big brothers rifles. Lol
elox02 3 months ago
Because of people with limited experience shooting you brothers ak spout of overhyped secondary info...I like the ak and it would perform if needed I used it in a carbine class but my AR is still the overall better platform. Why do others use it? Because Russia and china dumped them on shit countries for cheap. Do I think ak is shit...nope I like my sgl21 and vepr. I just like the AR platform better. I leave the aks for poor untrained peasants.
elox02 3 months ago
And to both elox and geek with a shotgun if the ak is so terrible and the ar so much better than why is the ak considered by many to be the greatest assault rifle of all time? And I also so a video of a group of soldiers in afghanistan or iraq I cant remember, but they were saying how they prefer the ak over their issued weapons.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun the ak has a better combat record in almost every situation. Dont just count afghanistan. And optics can crack or break. And ur ar is more reliable than an ak? Im sorry but that I will never believe. And the whole layout sucking thing, I personally like the layout of the ak better and find it more comfortable to shoot an ak then an ar. But ur entitled to ur opinion as am i
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
Well I'll take the road of both weapons are good. I'll take my tier one home built BCM/Spikes 14.5" midy any day and you can have your brothers ak. Like I said I OWN AND BUILT several of each 2 for LEOs but I wouldn't be upset if all I had was my SGL21. My experience is more than just my brother owns one of each.
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02
"Way more countries use the ak or have made copies of the ak."
80+ NATO countries use the M16 style rifle. Name some mentionable nations with respectable standing armies that still use the AK.
" It has a much better record in combat."
Studies are showing that in Afghanistan, the M16/AR-15 is outperforming the AK-47 in all fields of combat and ranges, even under 300 yards.
AGeekWithAShotgun 3 months ago
The aks layout is not good. No bolt hold open and the safety sucks, sights suck, mounting anything on it sucks, tactical reloads suck, no modern military uses it anymore. Ive built and own both. The AR style weapon is a better weapon. An idiot can use an ak. I'd rather not be the idiot.
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02 also to call any ar superior to an ak is just not right. Way more countries use the ak or have made copies of the ak. It has a much better record in combat. In terms of if ur shooting from far away I would obviously grab the ar without a 2nd thought, but within 300m its gonna be the ak. In most combat situations the ak would be better suited. In some tho the ar would be.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@elox02 ive fired both and my brother owns both and in a combat situation an ak would be better. Shouldnt one thing that really pop out in ur head be the fact that we're comparing the oldest ak to the newest ar? Doesnt that say anything to you? And optics have disadvantages as well since they run off batteries, can get shattered and add weight. Iron sights will never let you down. And personally I hate it when bolts stay open. Thats just a matter of opinion.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@crackbaby1058
"Iron sights will never let you down"
Iron sights ALWAYS let you down due to the virtue of the fact that you must line up to points on your rifle in comparison to just having to only using 1 point on an optic.
"they run off batteries, can get shattered and add weight"
T6 Aluminum does not "shatter". They are not very heavy; if you're complaining of it adding weight ot the rifle, I highly recommend you start weight training and weight lifting.
AGeekWithAShotgun 3 months ago
@crackbaby1058 Notice how none of your knowledge you base your opinion on is first hand? I own several of each and I'd take my BCM m4gery 14.5" midy any day over my sgl21 ak clone if I had a choice...the AR is just a better more flexible weapon platform. Better ergos/sights, bolt hold open better mag release and reload ergos
elox02 3 months ago
@elox02
"And personally I hate it when bolts stay open."
Because it's logical to hate a key function that allows you to tell when your rifle is out of ammunition, and the fact it allows for quicker reloads, right?
AGeekWithAShotgun 3 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU all in all the ak is better. The so called terrible accuracy of the ak is also bs. I saw a video of a guy shooting a target with an ak from 800m away. Ive also talked to many veterans and gun experts and theyve ALL said the ak is better. Although you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that and your service to the military. Ive never seen combat and I dont plan to but ive fired both weapons numerous times.
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@crackbaby1058
" I saw a video of a guy shooting a target with an ak from 800m away."
It's capable of shooting at 800m, but it's ostensible to assume that it can CONSISTANTLY hit a target at 800m. The difference is that an AR-15 can hit coin sized targets while an AK can only hit man-sized targets.
"Chances of an ar platform gun jamming is far higher than the chances of an ak47 jamming"
My DPMS AR-15 has a piston kit installed and has SUPERIOR reliability than AKs do.
AGeekWithAShotgun 3 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU also if ur in combat ur gun is gonna get dirty. U cant stop that no matter how careful u are. Chances of an ar platform gun jamming is far higher than the chances of an ak47 jamming. You could bury in ak for years and dig it back up beat it to hell with a hammer, throw water down the barrel and put mud in the chamber and it will still work
crackbaby1058 3 months ago
@SSgt24thMEU the ak is still better. Ur not gonna be engaging a target at 600m with an assault rifle so all that extra accuracy of the m16 isnt a big advantage. Most firefights dont happen past 300m so the ak is fine. Also it weighs a lilttle more, so what? It doesnt make much of a difference unless ur 90 pounds. All the pros of the ak more than outweigh the pros of the m16 and it has less cons than the m16
crackbaby1058 3 months ago