You grew up with a government and parents telling you about the reds, the communist craze, McCarthy's witch hunt... The slightest initative by your government to do something worthwile for your whole country and you're protesting. "I don't need Obama to tell me how to die".... Go ask your Canadian neighbors instead of falling for your patriotic bullshit.
Your government wants to implement a social security which in the end will ALL benefit you and Americans start thinking it's socialism and it's bad... You all run into the trap of going to war in Iraq but you're shooting yourself in the foot here. I live in France where we have the best social security WORLDWIDE and let me tell you I am very happy when I don't have to pay for the dentist. You're the richest country in the world for crying outloud...
The people running things are complete lunatics but they are very intelligent. Basically they want to have a hot military coup in the U.S. and then once they've completely taken over they're just gonna start killing us. And they'll probably use a swine flu outbreak or a staged terrorist attack as an excuse to do this. If they're successful it will make Russia under Stalin look like a picnic in comparison.
I agree with all, except the coup may have already taken place.Look at it as trying to capture a country with no infrastructure damaged.Think of the prize what would that be worth?This would explain ( infergaurd ) you probably know already.This would explain the continued crazy spending on road up grades and government facilities.That will keep all the construction workers so busy they won't have time to think about what is happening.Wars do the same keep the patriotic out of the country.
Then your gonna be rounding up a lot of politicians and bureaucrats cause those are the type of people who are into shit like that. Seriously the government is run by devil worshiping lunatics who want to kill all of us. That's why they want government run health care. They're monopoly men. They believe they have a right to rule and that we all need to die..
You people wont do anything. Christianity died a quiet death in Europe and it will do the same here. Most christians are rednecks that couldnt shoot a target 1 foot from their face. I am not worried....
Maybe christians should mind their own buisness.. No one wants your piece of shit religion. Atheism has grown almost 1% per year. Your time in this country is numbered.
the criminals are concentrated in one part of our country. they gather in secret and cut deals with corporations then lie to all about what their true motives are. they have no respect for the property, money of freedoms of others. they only care about themselves. they are the 535 prostiticians sent to represent the will of the people, and now only serve themselves. they know that the federal government is insolvent, but intend to tax the citizens to further stuff the coffers of the oligarchy.
"Shocking Hypocrisy Audio Found Obama didn't like it when Bush Rushed Through Legislation"
radio interview with Randi Rhodes in 2004.
now obama demands laws are passed without reading the bill. the pens need to be removed from the corrupt bastards' hands in congress before they continue signing our countrys' death warrant
nanny pelosi and stinky whore call us "un-Amercian" while they vote themselves 550 million for private jets and refuse to enroll themselves in obamacare.
the health insurance industry is totally taking over this debate. A 2/3 majority of this country not only wants a public "option" but wants the government to cover ALL people who can't afford private insurance. A 50% majority want single payer health insurance. And these fringe morons get 24 hour news coverage. There is not ONE story about the PNHP on google now, the largest organization of doctors who support single payer
That this poor excuse for an elected representative of the people dares to try and diminish the MAJORITY of citizens who clearly are against the proposed reform (show me a poll that reflects otherwise) who are speaking out, claiming theyre just part of an orchestrated effort (he mentions them being "organized" and "well prepared with materials that have been handed to them") is insulting to those who took it upon themselves to research the facts and come prepared to ask questions
barry brought up a good point in his "astroturf" town hall meeting when he pointed out that everything government touches turns into shit. "reverse midas touch"
"UPS and FED EX are doing just fine, it's the post office having all the problems. . . . "
-B.O. 11 august 2009 (maybe we should have barney frank duplicate his mortgage magic on healthcare. . . .)
You know what is sad is they can do many things change regulations that would cut cost and improve healthcare without spending a dime. Yet they want to spend 1.6 trillion and people will still not be covered and we will officially be a socialist Big Government Country with high taxes and high prices and a stagnet economy.
Yep, there is other things they can do. Thats why people are pissed at town halls. They cannot believe the audacity of politicians to propose a program like this with the current economic status. Even then, they just want big government, they do not want change. They just want control.
Our country has become socialism.... Ran out taxpayers money. We have no more money left to bailout. WE have high unemployment, layoffs,bankruptices, tent cities, wealth is gone, everything is going chaos.
i think the end times will come, but likely not for another couple years. Were close, but a few things have to fall in place first according to scripture
Again were is your proof? You say that but as far as I know you could have been in Cali as that town hall was going on. Again you just pissed that real Americans showed up to that....
So let me get this streight. You are calling me a cheater because I ask for proof? And your supposed to be the grown up? Wow just wow. 70% of Obamas town hall was done by an online lottery. Your just angery because the insurance companies were not able to bus people in. You rightys are really off the deep end....
Weres your proof? I can say everyone on the right is made up of pedophiles. Does that make it true just cause I said so? It was a lottery you moron. I know you rightys are anti-science and anti-facts but that dosent mean so is everyone else....
if one side was made of pediphiles it would be the left. LIberals are the ones that are pro gay sex, pro abortion, pro sex with children and pro pornography. Why do you think they are athiests? ( many of them, not every one)
Pro gay= pedophiles? Jesus fucking christ. Pro choice=pedophiles? Pro porn=pedophiles. My god. those have to be the stupidest things I have ever heard. NOw how is any of that pro-pedophile? Jesus you people are so fucking retarded. What does being atheist have to do with it. I am a fucking atheist and I am not pro pedophilia. No atheist I know is. In fact every time I turn on the TV I see another christian arrested for having sex with a kid.
Acually your wrong. 70% of the people at Obamas town hall were drawn from an online lottery. Check your facts and stop listening to that facist network fox news...
This is no vigorous debate, nor--as Arlen Specter asserted, in the face of Town Hall protest--is it the democratic process in action. It is however, the propagation of scare tactics to defend a healthcare plan which will be more expensive and less efficacious, and will fuel an enormous deficit via the steady injection of new liquidity, in consort with fractional reserve banking and sophisticated financial instruments, as did the busted, housing and tech bubbles.
barry brought up a good point in his "astroturf" town hall meeting when he pointed out that everything government touches turns into shit. "reverse midas touch"
"UPS and FED EX are doing just fine, it's the post office having all the problems. . . . "
-B.O. 11 august 2009 (maybe we should have barney frank duplicate his mortgage magic on healthcare. . . .)
Specter could care less what the people want. He's been paid off by special interests and corporate America, as are 95% of the politicians. Specter does not represent YOU.
This Government is out of control and could care less about any of us. Don't think so, then think about this, who wrote the health care bill or other bills, ? how can you pass a bill 1,000 pages with 500 pages added, when you read a brief of 5 to 10 pages and trust that thye special interest group that wrote it, is protecting us. nonsense ! it's all about power and more money for them and more government and more dependantcy.. wake up America we are being SOLD OUT by our government
Who are these special intrests then? You people bitch when the stim bill was shot and now you bitch when the health care bill is long. Its obvious your just trying to bitch now matter what. In fact I think this bill hurts the special intrests. Namly the insurance companies.
That is the representatives' and the senators' job, to read everything in a bill no matter how long. That's the only thing they fucking do, so they should do their job.
The people do want a public option. Obama has said from the start he would fight for a public option. And 53% of America voted for him knowing that. This isent anything new. You people knew this was coming. I think these astroturf protests are rude. They are not there to debate but to prevent anybody else from talking. What are they afraid of? Maybe cause if independents hear from the left they might acually agree with them?
Of course, the only protesters they show are a couple seconds clip from an elderly man. you'll hear about he protests, but you'll never hear WHY they're protesting, unless of course it fits the "They're just misinformed" narrative the media is pushing. The government is corrupt and they're pushing for support without even first defining what the plan they're pushing for is! So we don't trust them to manage our health care. Is that so crazy?
All they do is disrupt Town Hall meetings and make it impossible for other people to express their opinions. These bastards should take a fucking number and wait for their turn to speak.
remember when members of MSNBC gavce their press passes to code pink and other radical leftists to harass Palin during her first speech? The left are the usuals who do this -- what's good for the goose...
Really? Look at FOX. That is pretty much the representation of all right wing lunatics. They fear change, and guess what? Change is coming. Right wingers have to understand not everyone is a Religious Nazi loving, homophobic, old man. Atheism is coming hard, and when it does, the US will be a better country.
Far left and far right can be equally as bad as eachother. Here in Europe most of our governments are far left but ring wing is growing increasingly fast.
Our country is vastly overpopulated, many of our elderly live in poverty yet we cannot turn away illegal immigrants thanks to the stupid EU. If you're an immigrant and turn up you are given free housing, money, our "free" health care. My moms been trying to get a hip replacement for years so she has to go private thats how good free care is
'Atheism is coming hard, and when it does, the US will be a better country. '
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."
- Patrick Henry, Patriot 1776
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You probably need to LEAVE US before the shit hits the fan
This isn't in the Constitution. Therefore it is pure shit. Everyday, more and more Americans are waking up from their fairy tales, and becoming men and women of science. Face it dude, atheists doubled from the year 1990 to 2008, and will continue to grow in numbers to destroy this virus called religion. Developed countries all over the world have become atheist nations, and the US is next. No more third world fairy tales. When this happens, no more republicans.
The constitution you are thinking of, and its amendments, have been consigned to the dustbin of history. The Federal Government and its institutions are now the constitution, as in a 'living constitution'. So be sure to vote in 2010.
'Atheism is coming hard, and when it does, the US will be a better country. '
I think you're confusing atheism and communism. I'm a right wing atheist (See Objectivist) Heaven is the fairytale of the religious and utopia is the fairytale of socialists.
Right wings are the ones transforming this country into communism, with bills such as the Patriot Act, and the government's private army Black Water. I think you meant socialism. They are different things.
We can argue semantics all day, but when you make statements that make it seem like it's science and reason on the left vs religion and dogma on the right, there are a large number of secular conservatives, libertarians, and others who you are ignoring. Telling people on the left that they are the defenders of reason and science is one way that the left brainwashes people. I'm just trying to tell you that it isn't true.
Unfortunately some people are motivated by their guilt or fear (placed on them by their faith) rather than logic and reason. Guilt (usually left wing) or Fear (usually right wing) + wishful thinking = spend now and don't ask questions.
Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787 I think you need to look at history more. The founding fathers if alive today would probably be atheists...
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tomtom3245 2 years ago
You grew up with a government and parents telling you about the reds, the communist craze, McCarthy's witch hunt... The slightest initative by your government to do something worthwile for your whole country and you're protesting. "I don't need Obama to tell me how to die".... Go ask your Canadian neighbors instead of falling for your patriotic bullshit.
tomtom3245 2 years ago
IT just sickens me....
Your government wants to implement a social security which in the end will ALL benefit you and Americans start thinking it's socialism and it's bad... You all run into the trap of going to war in Iraq but you're shooting yourself in the foot here. I live in France where we have the best social security WORLDWIDE and let me tell you I am very happy when I don't have to pay for the dentist. You're the richest country in the world for crying outloud...
tomtom3245 2 years ago
Copy and paste the following into Yahoo and click on the first search result :
daily show beck operation
praizjesus 2 years ago
warcraft1920 as humans can ever force God,and you are wrong about Europa.
You know christians do mistakes,but God does not.But i cant see how christainity has anything whit Obama to do.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
I cant believe these clowns get paid just talking the same smack on the same issue fucking ridiculous
ponokillahz 2 years ago
If you want the real story behind all this go to TheAlexJonesChannel on youtube.
endgame2154 2 years ago
The people running things are complete lunatics but they are very intelligent. Basically they want to have a hot military coup in the U.S. and then once they've completely taken over they're just gonna start killing us. And they'll probably use a swine flu outbreak or a staged terrorist attack as an excuse to do this. If they're successful it will make Russia under Stalin look like a picnic in comparison.
endgame2154 2 years ago
I agree with all, except the coup may have already taken place.Look at it as trying to capture a country with no infrastructure damaged.Think of the prize what would that be worth?This would explain ( infergaurd ) you probably know already.This would explain the continued crazy spending on road up grades and government facilities.That will keep all the construction workers so busy they won't have time to think about what is happening.Wars do the same keep the patriotic out of the country.
THINKINGFREEMAN 2 years ago
Then your gonna be rounding up a lot of politicians and bureaucrats cause those are the type of people who are into shit like that. Seriously the government is run by devil worshiping lunatics who want to kill all of us. That's why they want government run health care. They're monopoly men. They believe they have a right to rule and that we all need to die..
endgame2154 2 years ago
Shoot their fucking jets down, pussies
PreCurSeD 2 years ago
You people wont do anything. Christianity died a quiet death in Europe and it will do the same here. Most christians are rednecks that couldnt shoot a target 1 foot from their face. I am not worried....
warcraft1920 2 years ago
Maybe christians should mind their own buisness.. No one wants your piece of shit religion. Atheism has grown almost 1% per year. Your time in this country is numbered.
warcraft1920 2 years ago
the criminals are concentrated in one part of our country. they gather in secret and cut deals with corporations then lie to all about what their true motives are. they have no respect for the property, money of freedoms of others. they only care about themselves. they are the 535 prostiticians sent to represent the will of the people, and now only serve themselves. they know that the federal government is insolvent, but intend to tax the citizens to further stuff the coffers of the oligarchy.
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
things have "changed"-watch this:
"Shocking Hypocrisy Audio Found Obama didn't like it when Bush Rushed Through Legislation"
radio interview with Randi Rhodes in 2004.
now obama demands laws are passed without reading the bill. the pens need to be removed from the corrupt bastards' hands in congress before they continue signing our countrys' death warrant
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
nanny pelosi and stinky whore call us "un-Amercian" while they vote themselves 550 million for private jets and refuse to enroll themselves in obamacare.
P R O S T I T I C I A N S !
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
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wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
the health insurance industry is totally taking over this debate. A 2/3 majority of this country not only wants a public "option" but wants the government to cover ALL people who can't afford private insurance. A 50% majority want single payer health insurance. And these fringe morons get 24 hour news coverage. There is not ONE story about the PNHP on google now, the largest organization of doctors who support single payer
myroncope 2 years ago
That this poor excuse for an elected representative of the people dares to try and diminish the MAJORITY of citizens who clearly are against the proposed reform (show me a poll that reflects otherwise) who are speaking out, claiming theyre just part of an orchestrated effort (he mentions them being "organized" and "well prepared with materials that have been handed to them") is insulting to those who took it upon themselves to research the facts and come prepared to ask questions
Shameful!.
TMitche22 2 years ago
barry brought up a good point in his "astroturf" town hall meeting when he pointed out that everything government touches turns into shit. "reverse midas touch"
"UPS and FED EX are doing just fine, it's the post office having all the problems. . . . "
-B.O. 11 august 2009 (maybe we should have barney frank duplicate his mortgage magic on healthcare. . . .)
watch: "post office"
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
What more dam proof do you politicians need?
We are the ones who are employed, we are taking the day off from work to tell you NO HEALTH CARE Reform by the Gov.!!!!!!
Its easy fro those in favor to show up because they are not contributors in the first place.
rwpeterson3 2 years ago
You know what is sad is they can do many things change regulations that would cut cost and improve healthcare without spending a dime. Yet they want to spend 1.6 trillion and people will still not be covered and we will officially be a socialist Big Government Country with high taxes and high prices and a stagnet economy.
quizerry 2 years ago
Yep, there is other things they can do. Thats why people are pissed at town halls. They cannot believe the audacity of politicians to propose a program like this with the current economic status. Even then, they just want big government, they do not want change. They just want control.
Zoklor 2 years ago
that obama town hall was like a ACORN annual meeting lol!
compassionrepublican 2 years ago
lol Obama is on a fail ride hahahahaha,ever since he got power ah
hahahaaha.Just a question why did u vote for him,ahahahaha?
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
Everyone does NOT deserve health care. Health care is NOT a right.
With the Democrat Communists trying to shove health care down the American peoples' throat the people must fight back.
There is one way to solve the "health care" issue: A National Referendum where the PEOPLE vote either Yes or No.
njattack 2 years ago
Our country has become socialism.... Ran out taxpayers money. We have no more money left to bailout. WE have high unemployment, layoffs,bankruptices, tent cities, wealth is gone, everything is going chaos.
All gone... end of times.
NauticalFILMS 2 years ago
i think the end times will come, but likely not for another couple years. Were close, but a few things have to fall in place first according to scripture
compassionrepublican 2 years ago
Again were is your proof? You say that but as far as I know you could have been in Cali as that town hall was going on. Again you just pissed that real Americans showed up to that....
warcraft1920 2 years ago
So let me get this streight. You are calling me a cheater because I ask for proof? And your supposed to be the grown up? Wow just wow. 70% of Obamas town hall was done by an online lottery. Your just angery because the insurance companies were not able to bus people in. You rightys are really off the deep end....
warcraft1920 2 years ago
Weres your proof? I can say everyone on the right is made up of pedophiles. Does that make it true just cause I said so? It was a lottery you moron. I know you rightys are anti-science and anti-facts but that dosent mean so is everyone else....
warcraft1920 2 years ago
if one side was made of pediphiles it would be the left. LIberals are the ones that are pro gay sex, pro abortion, pro sex with children and pro pornography. Why do you think they are athiests? ( many of them, not every one)
compassionrepublican 2 years ago
Pro gay= pedophiles? Jesus fucking christ. Pro choice=pedophiles? Pro porn=pedophiles. My god. those have to be the stupidest things I have ever heard. NOw how is any of that pro-pedophile? Jesus you people are so fucking retarded. What does being atheist have to do with it. I am a fucking atheist and I am not pro pedophilia. No atheist I know is. In fact every time I turn on the TV I see another christian arrested for having sex with a kid.
warcraft1920 2 years ago
Christians should not have the right to vote. You lack the IQ to make and informed decision.
warcraft1920 2 years ago
Acually your wrong. 70% of the people at Obamas town hall were drawn from an online lottery. Check your facts and stop listening to that facist network fox news...
warcraft1920 2 years ago
This is no vigorous debate, nor--as Arlen Specter asserted, in the face of Town Hall protest--is it the democratic process in action. It is however, the propagation of scare tactics to defend a healthcare plan which will be more expensive and less efficacious, and will fuel an enormous deficit via the steady injection of new liquidity, in consort with fractional reserve banking and sophisticated financial instruments, as did the busted, housing and tech bubbles.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
barry brought up a good point in his "astroturf" town hall meeting when he pointed out that everything government touches turns into shit. "reverse midas touch"
"UPS and FED EX are doing just fine, it's the post office having all the problems. . . . "
-B.O. 11 august 2009 (maybe we should have barney frank duplicate his mortgage magic on healthcare. . . .)
watch: "post office"
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
Specter could care less what the people want. He's been paid off by special interests and corporate America, as are 95% of the politicians. Specter does not represent YOU.
czubspenx 2 years ago
This Government is out of control and could care less about any of us. Don't think so, then think about this, who wrote the health care bill or other bills, ? how can you pass a bill 1,000 pages with 500 pages added, when you read a brief of 5 to 10 pages and trust that thye special interest group that wrote it, is protecting us. nonsense ! it's all about power and more money for them and more government and more dependantcy.. wake up America we are being SOLD OUT by our government
wayneo169 2 years ago 2
Who are these special intrests then? You people bitch when the stim bill was shot and now you bitch when the health care bill is long. Its obvious your just trying to bitch now matter what. In fact I think this bill hurts the special intrests. Namly the insurance companies.
warcraft1920 2 years ago
That is the representatives' and the senators' job, to read everything in a bill no matter how long. That's the only thing they fucking do, so they should do their job.
chuytheme 2 years ago 2
Wow, senator specter is an rude ass.
He says that the protesters or not even a 'minority', what BS.
These are Americans voices across the nation. Nobody wants the Government to OWN health care, the automobile industry, or the financial institution.
Get the Obama administration out of office in 2012!!
artformeandyou 2 years ago 2
The people do want a public option. Obama has said from the start he would fight for a public option. And 53% of America voted for him knowing that. This isent anything new. You people knew this was coming. I think these astroturf protests are rude. They are not there to debate but to prevent anybody else from talking. What are they afraid of? Maybe cause if independents hear from the left they might acually agree with them?
warcraft1920 2 years ago
And put the Nazis in? Hell no!
chuytheme 2 years ago
THEY ARE MISINFORMED
STEEEVVYZ 2 years ago
Of course, the only protesters they show are a couple seconds clip from an elderly man. you'll hear about he protests, but you'll never hear WHY they're protesting, unless of course it fits the "They're just misinformed" narrative the media is pushing. The government is corrupt and they're pushing for support without even first defining what the plan they're pushing for is! So we don't trust them to manage our health care. Is that so crazy?
andrewclunn 2 years ago 4
All they do is disrupt Town Hall meetings and make it impossible for other people to express their opinions. These bastards should take a fucking number and wait for their turn to speak.
chuytheme 2 years ago
remember when members of MSNBC gavce their press passes to code pink and other radical leftists to harass Palin during her first speech? The left are the usuals who do this -- what's good for the goose...
sunshinyday11 2 years ago
Really? Look at FOX. That is pretty much the representation of all right wing lunatics. They fear change, and guess what? Change is coming. Right wingers have to understand not everyone is a Religious Nazi loving, homophobic, old man. Atheism is coming hard, and when it does, the US will be a better country.
chuytheme 2 years ago
Far left and far right can be equally as bad as eachother. Here in Europe most of our governments are far left but ring wing is growing increasingly fast.
Our country is vastly overpopulated, many of our elderly live in poverty yet we cannot turn away illegal immigrants thanks to the stupid EU. If you're an immigrant and turn up you are given free housing, money, our "free" health care. My moms been trying to get a hip replacement for years so she has to go private thats how good free care is
hotei87 2 years ago
'Atheism is coming hard, and when it does, the US will be a better country. '
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."
- Patrick Henry, Patriot 1776
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You probably need to LEAVE US before the shit hits the fan
AmericaLoudNClear 2 years ago
This isn't in the Constitution. Therefore it is pure shit. Everyday, more and more Americans are waking up from their fairy tales, and becoming men and women of science. Face it dude, atheists doubled from the year 1990 to 2008, and will continue to grow in numbers to destroy this virus called religion. Developed countries all over the world have become atheist nations, and the US is next. No more third world fairy tales. When this happens, no more republicans.
chuytheme 2 years ago
The constitution you are thinking of, and its amendments, have been consigned to the dustbin of history. The Federal Government and its institutions are now the constitution, as in a 'living constitution'. So be sure to vote in 2010.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
'Atheism is coming hard, and when it does, the US will be a better country. '
I think you're confusing atheism and communism. I'm a right wing atheist (See Objectivist) Heaven is the fairytale of the religious and utopia is the fairytale of socialists.
andrewclunn 2 years ago
Right wings are the ones transforming this country into communism, with bills such as the Patriot Act, and the government's private army Black Water. I think you meant socialism. They are different things.
chuytheme 2 years ago
We can argue semantics all day, but when you make statements that make it seem like it's science and reason on the left vs religion and dogma on the right, there are a large number of secular conservatives, libertarians, and others who you are ignoring. Telling people on the left that they are the defenders of reason and science is one way that the left brainwashes people. I'm just trying to tell you that it isn't true.
andrewclunn 2 years ago 3
why doe's Atheism have anything to do with health care?
111110001 2 years ago
Unfortunately some people are motivated by their guilt or fear (placed on them by their faith) rather than logic and reason. Guilt (usually left wing) or Fear (usually right wing) + wishful thinking = spend now and don't ask questions.
andrewclunn 2 years ago
Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787 I think you need to look at history more. The founding fathers if alive today would probably be atheists...
warcraft1920 2 years ago