They knew and had been warned about the killer. At that time all guns had to have individual licences and there were regular police checks. They knew about the guy and they allowed him to have guns. They knew he was a mental case. And still they allowed him to have guns.
And to all the people that think puting jokes up on this video about the shooting ur as fucked up as the guy that did it! Think of the familys and friends that have to go about life and have this in there minds 24/7 it wouldnt be that if it was one of ur family or friends that was killed so why dont u take ur stupid mindless asses somewhere else and think x
This is still a sore point within Dunblane and the surrounding counties of Stirlingshire and Clackmannanhire. Its not talked about, only mentioned in hushed wispers. It was too horrifying to take in the news of the slaughter of innocent bairns. The question WHY? will forever remain unanswered.
I think folk have moved on a wee bit since then and the horrors around the world have taken over but that day in an infants school and what took place will never be forgotten.
@90talisten. I don't believe in god but i pray that you die, i hope you suffer in life as the victims families have to every breathing moment. You're worse then vile. I pray that you burn and rot in hell for an eternity. I don't ever wish that kind of thing on people, but i will for you, you deserve that torture, i do hope they film it and let me watch, i will get some popcorn while im at it :) You're a sick bastard.
How could that man do such a terrible thing, I mean what have those inocent children done to upset him, I think nothing, this is so sad, I am actually very angry that this has happened, vile, absolutly vile, and if anyone finds this hilarious then you can just piss off because this isn't funny, this is absolutly deppressing. I wasn't born back then, I was born in 1997 not 1996 and I still find this tragically sad.
doesnt matter what any of us say in these posts this crime was sick and i think it has affected us all and thats y we say these things at the end of the day we all know this was sick .cant even imagine what families r going threw but my thoughts r with them as im a parent myself xx
@ 90talisten .... I do hope you never reproduce and feel the loss as others have, .... then again it may open your eyes! But im not as sick as you to wish that upon anyone .... EVEN YOU!
@infinitywatkins Don't rise to this idoits comments mate, just another product of lifes' brainless fools. I'm sure that when faced with a firearm pointed at him he would shit himself and curl up into a ball begging not to be shot but he's not man enough to admit it unlike most. You are 90talisten, pathetic and full of shit so just go away from this section of youtube and live your obviously movie orientated life somewhere else, if only you had clue about what you spout on here, thumb that down:)
So so sad and tragic, I cried on seeing this, and prayed that Our Lady and Jesus will be with these children and their families forever. as the pain must be so awful to bear.
I remember that day well.I was on a training course when one of the training officers came in and told us one of our staff had been sent for as her child attended that school.We then watched the tv and I will never forget the parents running up to the school gates to see if thier children were alive and the poor parents that were escorted to a different building than most, I am crying as I write this.God bless the victims of Dunblane.
This isn't a joke these children really died just because some idiot got into a temper one day.
You don't know what their behavior was like, besides; they were children for fuck sake.
It sound to me like you're the one who deserves to die because if you can say that many children deserved to die, i mean if you can bring youself to type that then you're the kind of sick fuck that would go out and do this kind of thing.
Who is the real psychopath here, the guy who tells how it is or you who just try to "fit" with the others on youtube to get thumbs up. Why dont you grab a plastic cock and show it up your ass. What I say is true those kids would have not been a crap anyway if they were still alive and you might never know maybe death is better then life and being shot might be a great feeling of being alive. I hope those kids enjoyed death it must feelt good specially when its suprise death! Damn i miss 90s
I was in 7th grade in 1996 when this terrible tragedy took place. I live in the USA and I have friends that live in Scotland and they are the most nicest down to earth people Ive ever met. It breaks my heart what that scumbag did! I know Gwen and the children are together in heaven laughing & playing safe in the arms of Jesus.So sad that they're lives were cut short! R.I.P angels! We all luv u and miss you!
RIP little angels, first week I ever experienced death first hand with my grandpa dying, a home lunch from school and this was all over the news...so sad, always remembered. God bless xxx
even thinking aboot it sets me off - remember watching the news live that day as was on a late shift and seeing the people running up the road shit scared wondering where their kids were was tragic
I worked at the Lothian Education Department in Edinburgh when this happened. I remember that we could not believe what happened and how at the same time we were all in tears. Gwen and these little angels are safe in the arms of Jesus now. We MUST never forget, I won't. R.I.P. xx
The atmosphere in Dunblane every year is the same. Everyone has it on their minds and are thinking of all you beautiful wee angels. Gone but certainly never forgotten in Dunblane, everyday you are all thought of. Love to all you gorgeous young angels xxxxxxxxxxxx
I remember 15 years ago today, my form teacher had been home for her lunch and came to school to do afternoon registration in floods of tears,had seen the news and told us about this awful crime. R.I.P never forgotten xxx
Think what scares me the most is that I would have been in primary one then, in a class less than 5 miles away from them. Hell, I could even be at Uni with them now if this hadn't have happened. 15 years today, and never forgotten. RIP bairns, you never deserved this.
It's funny somehow, this day sticks in my mind as an eleven year old in school at the time it happened it shook everyone up, pupil and staff alike. It'll sound odd but it definitely created an interesting atmosphere for the next few days, I seem to remember us fundraising in honour of it all back in the day. Bless the poor children who never got a chance to grow up, and the parents who never got a chance to see their little ones grow up.
this tragedy always hit home when i watch this video. makes me cry every time when i see all those faces of the innocent children that lost there lives that day. i hope and pray that where ever they are that they are now at rest, i think this will not be forgotten for a long long time, i hope and prey that the parents of these children have some how found some peace from this tragedy, my heart goes out to them xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
i was six years old when this happened and this put the fear of god in almost everyone in and around scotland and in scottish primary schools and let us all hope it will never happen again as scotland will never recover properly and i also think that in the 14 years since then we still havent forgotton any of the children and there teacher.Sleep in peace in Children and teacher of Dunblane primary school from 1996.
I watched this 15 times in a row. I always loved this song and I never knew about Dunblane until today, I assume that this version of the song was a about a war in Scotland many years ago, like the conflict in North Ireland. But after watching this and knowing what happened I was truly changed. Many times throughout history things like this or even worst (NAZI Germany) have happened. Monsters don't live in closets they walk among us...blessings and love to all who have been affected by them.
Aww Poor Kids That Is So Upsettin Im SpeachLess Its Soo Sad Really Feel Sorry For All Those Kids Who Lost There Lives They Were All Soo Young Poor Parents :( xx
every year when i see the snowdrops i think of that tragic day i live not far from dunblane and took flowers and a teddy bear it was horrific what the evil scum done to those poor little children and there teacher, heaven got 17 more angels that day but the loss is always felt by the families and people world wide RIP little ones and Gwen Mayor xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
17 new stars.....17 short lifes.. this is why we must dis-arm guns a knives
as a young kid i was brought up in a childrens home in the small town of kilearn it is a beauitul place with awsome country side and vast land but i remember awkening 1 day 13 March 1996 to be precise, the staff there looked shoked and deprressed and inconsolable, i knew as i soon as i had saw the staff that something was wrong (i thought something within the school / home had happened and someone was in trouble) >>
but never in a million years could i beleive that some other thing could take a gun and walk into a school and start shootin innocent kids and teachers at this time i knew it was very bad but didnt really understand as i was a young boy but now i have my own little girl i can only imagine how the family, friends and surrounding community must have felt, if i still remember it so clear how do they feel ? god bless u all XxX by kevin king 30/10/2010 page 2
its a shame to know that all these children were guilty of were being children no parent should have to go through losing a child to a monster like hamilton
R.I.P to every child who died there and thier brave and heroic teacher Gwen Mayor
I dont cry at much but this is so sad I was about two years older than these kids to imagine how scared they were just makes me cry , They are now by gods side playing in heaven. RIP
We've just had something similiar to this in our hime town (Whitehaven Cumbria) a gunman came round town in a car and randomely shot people killing 13 and wounding 25. He then went into a wood and ended his own life, the helicopters and press are unbelievable. Its like some horror movie. RIP to all those deceased from yesterdays events., Darren Rewcastle i'll never forget you. Love Kerrie xxxx
thomas hamilton can rot for eternity and the devil should put him in one of those childs shoes and replay it over and over again a coward dies a thousand times a hero dies but once
That's really sick I no people that was there get ur sick head sorted out
graham5416 2 days ago
rip children of dunblane scotland never forgets or the rest of the world :'(
camomc1 2 months ago
The police as good as killed this children.
They knew and had been warned about the killer. At that time all guns had to have individual licences and there were regular police checks. They knew about the guy and they allowed him to have guns. They knew he was a mental case. And still they allowed him to have guns.
cabadejo 2 months ago
rip kids of dunblame you had no reson to die xxxx
chloefreeman13 2 months ago 3
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RIP sweet little angels will allways be remembered amd never forgotton
Gorde55 3 months ago
RIP sweet little angels will allways be remembered amd nver forgotton
Gorde55 3 months ago
RIP [*]
cedro111 4 months ago
RIP wee angels <3
RIP Mhari gone but never forgot babe
And to all the people that think puting jokes up on this video about the shooting ur as fucked up as the guy that did it! Think of the familys and friends that have to go about life and have this in there minds 24/7 it wouldnt be that if it was one of ur family or friends that was killed so why dont u take ur stupid mindless asses somewhere else and think x
DropDeadJenny89 4 months ago 2
This is still a sore point within Dunblane and the surrounding counties of Stirlingshire and Clackmannanhire. Its not talked about, only mentioned in hushed wispers. It was too horrifying to take in the news of the slaughter of innocent bairns. The question WHY? will forever remain unanswered.
I think folk have moved on a wee bit since then and the horrors around the world have taken over but that day in an infants school and what took place will never be forgotten.
DonnyMacG 4 months ago 2
gone but never forgotten. Rip little soles
wappo123121 5 months ago
@90talisten. I don't believe in god but i pray that you die, i hope you suffer in life as the victims families have to every breathing moment. You're worse then vile. I pray that you burn and rot in hell for an eternity. I don't ever wish that kind of thing on people, but i will for you, you deserve that torture, i do hope they film it and let me watch, i will get some popcorn while im at it :) You're a sick bastard.
iainp18 5 months ago
How could that man do such a terrible thing, I mean what have those inocent children done to upset him, I think nothing, this is so sad, I am actually very angry that this has happened, vile, absolutly vile, and if anyone finds this hilarious then you can just piss off because this isn't funny, this is absolutly deppressing. I wasn't born back then, I was born in 1997 not 1996 and I still find this tragically sad.
calrocz 5 months ago
Btw jackass im a scot and wouldnt say anything disrepectful.
saschiver 5 months ago
Why am i sick? What did i say. Read my comment. Unless u cant read?
saschiver 5 months ago
doesnt matter what any of us say in these posts this crime was sick and i think it has affected us all and thats y we say these things at the end of the day we all know this was sick .cant even imagine what families r going threw but my thoughts r with them as im a parent myself xx
saschiver 7 months ago
Never forgotten - was only a child myself when this happened but will always remember that day. Bless their souls ♥
Jinx0401 7 months ago
rip kids of dunblame
chloefreeman13 7 months ago
RIP little ones and your teacher safe in the arms of angels now xxxxx
shiona0906 8 months ago
@ 90talisten .... I do hope you never reproduce and feel the loss as others have, .... then again it may open your eyes! But im not as sick as you to wish that upon anyone .... EVEN YOU!
infinitywatkins 8 months ago
@infinitywatkins Don't rise to this idoits comments mate, just another product of lifes' brainless fools. I'm sure that when faced with a firearm pointed at him he would shit himself and curl up into a ball begging not to be shot but he's not man enough to admit it unlike most. You are 90talisten, pathetic and full of shit so just go away from this section of youtube and live your obviously movie orientated life somewhere else, if only you had clue about what you spout on here, thumb that down:)
stevekiel82 8 months ago 12
So so sad and tragic, I cried on seeing this, and prayed that Our Lady and Jesus will be with these children and their families forever. as the pain must be so awful to bear.
josparkes1 9 months ago
I remember that day well.I was on a training course when one of the training officers came in and told us one of our staff had been sent for as her child attended that school.We then watched the tv and I will never forget the parents running up to the school gates to see if thier children were alive and the poor parents that were escorted to a different building than most, I am crying as I write this.God bless the victims of Dunblane.
PURPLEBEATTIE1 9 months ago 2
rip little angels and the hero of this tragidy miss gwen mayor
trefbal 9 months ago
That wasnt funny mate
Azanti 9 months ago
How Can anyone dislike this video ....
Rest in peace angels
2011BLODGEable 10 months ago
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@2011BLODGEable
Oh please those little cunts deserved death, they should have behaved!!
but nope, as usally have to fuck around. Well they have learned there lesson now those little fuckers!
90talisten 9 months ago
@90talisten
what sort of psychopath are you?
This isn't a joke these children really died just because some idiot got into a temper one day.
You don't know what their behavior was like, besides; they were children for fuck sake.
It sound to me like you're the one who deserves to die because if you can say that many children deserved to die, i mean if you can bring youself to type that then you're the kind of sick fuck that would go out and do this kind of thing.
mattymatt1987 8 months ago
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Who is the real psychopath here, the guy who tells how it is or you who just try to "fit" with the others on youtube to get thumbs up. Why dont you grab a plastic cock and show it up your ass. What I say is true those kids would have not been a crap anyway if they were still alive and you might never know maybe death is better then life and being shot might be a great feeling of being alive. I hope those kids enjoyed death it must feelt good specially when its suprise death! Damn i miss 90s
90talisten 8 months ago
@90talisten your fuckin sick
uwillbow2mePS3 7 months ago
@uwillbow2mePS3
mmmm, no.
90talisten 7 months ago
@90talisten YOU COME MEET ME AND LETS SEE HOW YOU FUCKING BEHAVE WHEN I BRING A 'FULLY LOADED' GUN TO YOU HEAD!!! YOU CUNT!!!
puertoricotilldeath 8 months ago
@puertoricotilldeath 90talisrn ur a sick cunt fuck off u prickl
saschiver 7 months ago
@saschiver YOU'RE A FUCKING SICK CUNT MATE!!! HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL, WHAT A SAD LTTLE PERSON YOU MUST BE
puertoricotilldeath 5 months ago
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@90talisten YOU COME MEET ME AND LETS SEE HOW YOU FUCKING BEHAVE WHEN I BRING A 'FULLY LOADED' GUN TO YOUR HEAD!!! YOU CUNT!!!
puertoricotilldeath 8 months ago
@90talisten
whats the quickest way to get to kilbryde?
just shoot straight through dunblane.................
chill out ppl its only words for fucks sake!
garysquirrelreviews 6 months ago
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agree
90talisten 6 months ago
2 dislikes, what? Really innocent children were killed and you dislike the video!!!
Ethann2011 10 months ago
I was in 7th grade in 1996 when this terrible tragedy took place. I live in the USA and I have friends that live in Scotland and they are the most nicest down to earth people Ive ever met. It breaks my heart what that scumbag did! I know Gwen and the children are together in heaven laughing & playing safe in the arms of Jesus.So sad that they're lives were cut short! R.I.P angels! We all luv u and miss you!
RodStewartfan1 10 months ago
RIP little angels, first week I ever experienced death first hand with my grandpa dying, a home lunch from school and this was all over the news...so sad, always remembered. God bless xxx
Hollz2012 11 months ago
Tears in my eyes... Rip
azertuip 11 months ago
even thinking aboot it sets me off - remember watching the news live that day as was on a late shift and seeing the people running up the road shit scared wondering where their kids were was tragic
TheFatweegee 11 months ago
still puts a chill through me, god bless
45mitre 11 months ago
RIP little ones, you'll never be forgotten x
DaveDong99 11 months ago
15 years today! RIP Little Angels!
heatherblack2002 11 months ago
I worked at the Lothian Education Department in Edinburgh when this happened. I remember that we could not believe what happened and how at the same time we were all in tears. Gwen and these little angels are safe in the arms of Jesus now. We MUST never forget, I won't. R.I.P. xx
babshi1956 11 months ago
R I P
jimmythetim 11 months ago
R.I.P lest wee forget
peterdougie 11 months ago
The atmosphere in Dunblane every year is the same. Everyone has it on their minds and are thinking of all you beautiful wee angels. Gone but certainly never forgotten in Dunblane, everyday you are all thought of. Love to all you gorgeous young angels xxxxxxxxxxxx
TheStewarty1 11 months ago
Our thoughts and prayers are with you all today.RIP little ones,hope your teacher is still watching over you.x
roryg38 11 months ago
Our thoughts and prayers are with you all today.RIP LITTLE ONES.X
roryg38 11 months ago
A nation mourned, thoughts are with the families on this day, may they RIP xx
jgemslie 11 months ago
What a lovely tribute to those gorgeous children and teacher, saddest day in Scotland that I can remember,
crabbyally 11 months ago
LET US NEVER FORGET
R.I.P X
gary1979ish 11 months ago
I remember 15 years ago today, my form teacher had been home for her lunch and came to school to do afternoon registration in floods of tears,had seen the news and told us about this awful crime. R.I.P never forgotten xxx
lourachful 11 months ago
Think what scares me the most is that I would have been in primary one then, in a class less than 5 miles away from them. Hell, I could even be at Uni with them now if this hadn't have happened. 15 years today, and never forgotten. RIP bairns, you never deserved this.
RobbieCrow17791 11 months ago
15 yr's ago on the 13th march 2011 this massacer happened, Scotland and the World will never ever forget you all RIP
deelight65 11 months ago
It's funny somehow, this day sticks in my mind as an eleven year old in school at the time it happened it shook everyone up, pupil and staff alike. It'll sound odd but it definitely created an interesting atmosphere for the next few days, I seem to remember us fundraising in honour of it all back in the day. Bless the poor children who never got a chance to grow up, and the parents who never got a chance to see their little ones grow up.
YSJClarke 1 year ago
this one that will never be forgotten when i saw thjs video total tears came to my eyes
gorde112 1 year ago
this tragedy always hit home when i watch this video. makes me cry every time when i see all those faces of the innocent children that lost there lives that day. i hope and pray that where ever they are that they are now at rest, i think this will not be forgotten for a long long time, i hope and prey that the parents of these children have some how found some peace from this tragedy, my heart goes out to them xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
jeffnun1987 1 year ago
I'm a person that has been mistreated and has a lot of anger in me.
But even i do not understand how anyone can fire a gun at a child, it's not something i could ever do.
mattymatt1987 1 year ago
These kids would have been my age right now. It's bloody awful to just look at pictures and easily remember my old friends faces in 96'. Horrid
ConnorUFO 1 year ago 5
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neonatalpenguin 1 year ago
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1JjOoEe1 1 year ago
i will always remember xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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milo6117 1 year ago
i was six years old when this happened and this put the fear of god in almost everyone in and around scotland and in scottish primary schools and let us all hope it will never happen again as scotland will never recover properly and i also think that in the 14 years since then we still havent forgotton any of the children and there teacher.Sleep in peace in Children and teacher of Dunblane primary school from 1996.
TheScotlandforever 1 year ago
i remeber the day this happened and it ripped a whole community apart,try to learn by the mistakes others make and change the way things happen
datasae3 1 year ago
I watched this 15 times in a row. I always loved this song and I never knew about Dunblane until today, I assume that this version of the song was a about a war in Scotland many years ago, like the conflict in North Ireland. But after watching this and knowing what happened I was truly changed. Many times throughout history things like this or even worst (NAZI Germany) have happened. Monsters don't live in closets they walk among us...blessings and love to all who have been affected by them.
TheCyberBuccaneer 1 year ago
Aww Poor Kids That Is So Upsettin Im SpeachLess Its Soo Sad Really Feel Sorry For All Those Kids Who Lost There Lives They Were All Soo Young Poor Parents :( xx
MelindaaBaybee 1 year ago
every year when i see the snowdrops i think of that tragic day i live not far from dunblane and took flowers and a teddy bear it was horrific what the evil scum done to those poor little children and there teacher, heaven got 17 more angels that day but the loss is always felt by the families and people world wide RIP little ones and Gwen Mayor xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
shiona0906 1 year ago
i can say no words.. I am just so sorry.
leritena 1 year ago
I wish he was alive again so i could send him back myself.
The motherfucking bastard..
DalarianTheGreat 1 year ago
R.I.P Emily (my cousin) she is the girl with curly hair at about 38 seconds in...we all miss you. would have been 20 this year :O
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17 new stars.....17 short lifes.. this is why we must dis-arm guns a knives
as a young kid i was brought up in a childrens home in the small town of kilearn it is a beauitul place with awsome country side and vast land but i remember awkening 1 day 13 March 1996 to be precise, the staff there looked shoked and deprressed and inconsolable, i knew as i soon as i had saw the staff that something was wrong (i thought something within the school / home had happened and someone was in trouble) >>
421kevink 1 year ago
but never in a million years could i beleive that some other thing could take a gun and walk into a school and start shootin innocent kids and teachers at this time i knew it was very bad but didnt really understand as i was a young boy but now i have my own little girl i can only imagine how the family, friends and surrounding community must have felt, if i still remember it so clear how do they feel ? god bless u all XxX by kevin king 30/10/2010 page 2
421kevink 1 year ago
one tragic day that ill never forget
ilovejustin132 1 year ago
I seriously hate that guy who did this! WHAT'S HIS FREAKING PROBLEM!
Dotteddot 1 year ago
WTF why did he do this???? ,,all these wee kids dead ,,,such horror :(
RaeRae914 1 year ago
R.I.P i live 10 miles from there
rot in hell hamilton
5StarGlitchers 1 year ago
its a shame to know that all these children were guilty of were being children no parent should have to go through losing a child to a monster like hamilton
R.I.P to every child who died there and thier brave and heroic teacher Gwen Mayor
VampireGirl700 1 year ago
Even our queen traveled hours to pay respect to the children of dumblane it's just evil he didn't even kill 11 year old just 5 and 6 so sad :(
sugarrush777 1 year ago
I dont cry at much but this is so sad I was about two years older than these kids to imagine how scared they were just makes me cry , They are now by gods side playing in heaven. RIP
Smithy378 1 year ago
We've just had something similiar to this in our hime town (Whitehaven Cumbria) a gunman came round town in a car and randomely shot people killing 13 and wounding 25. He then went into a wood and ended his own life, the helicopters and press are unbelievable. Its like some horror movie. RIP to all those deceased from yesterdays events., Darren Rewcastle i'll never forget you. Love Kerrie xxxx
MissFangs666 1 year ago
thomas hamilton can rot for eternity and the devil should put him in one of those childs shoes and replay it over and over again a coward dies a thousand times a hero dies but once
firemalkin 1 year ago
May everyone who died that day rest in peace
mtdmtdmtdmtd1 1 year ago
So sad... God bless them all xxx
bonnie256 1 year ago
always makes my heart sink, you only really understand when you have your own little ones.
MaddyandCJ 1 year ago
sniff sniff...this song came out on the exsact day of my birth 15 december 1996 i hope that son of a bi8ch rots in hell.
XxShadsSexyBabexX1 1 year ago
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Tyler.... sniff sniff too....
curtissmithx 1 year ago
@curtissmithx XD found ya comment
XxShadsSexyBabexX1 1 year ago
:( :( RIP to the victims. Except that son of the bitch Thomas Hamilton. You can rot in hell for all i care.
TashaRichardsonFan 2 years ago
so real and sad
SuperGerard1983 2 years ago
the day Scotland fell silent R.I.P. and god bless
stucelt 2 years ago
god, i hope the 999 service's got the suport they deserved as well.
kingdaveeeee 2 years ago
WHY! Never forget .
:-(
SignalCO45 2 years ago
Omg... I don't know what to say...
so I 'll just pray.
Why am I just NOW reading about this
tragedy?? Or is my memory completely gone?? My heart and tears go out to each
and every single child and to their teacher.
and to all the people of Dunblane. Especially to the children's families.
It is truly an annihilation of innocence.
I promise, I will NEVER forget. Each
child's spirit lives on and shines in the stars above me. I know God is holding
them gently in His arms for all Time.
tobama08 2 years ago 5
rest in peace you are scotlands lost angels
MrFoxmolder 2 years ago 2
god bless each and every 1 no wonder the sky shines so bright at night with all u little stars up there shining so bright xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx shine on
peee333 2 years ago
That's so sad =( I'm sorry, Emmy.
StarWarsGeek05 2 years ago