@Seattlecarnut Did you know that the quality of our air has improved 700% in the last 30 years? I'm thinking about running an old 2-stroke 3 cylinder Saab from now on.
YES!! Is this bus actually being used by Greyhound in this video? Or does someone privately own this bus? Either way, SWEET! A classic American icon for sure, powered by a classic American engine!!
I've been told by former Greyhound drivers that the 1948 #3751's were good driving buses but....they had no power steering and turning corners at low speed was like pulling a Army tank. The sweetest coaches to driver were the #4101's and the Scenicruisers. True or False?
@Chesterbarnes1 When I drove for Greyhound in the 1960s, the favorite by most drivers was the late model 4106. The Scenics were great on long hauls on expressways with limited access ramps because stopping distance was quite long. My second favorite, especially in bad weather, was the 4104.
No shit! I've never understood why the US EPA is always demanding newer and "safer" vehicles, when it's not always the vehicles themselves that are dangerous, it's the drivers and occupants.
You don't see very many of these old buses being used anymore. I don't know why. If they're properly maintained instead of letting them deteriorate to death, then they can be used today.
Wonder what it would have been like to travel through the sweltering heat on a bus like that. Then pulling into an old Greyhound station. Wish I could go back in time and do just that.
In 1980 Greyhound still had a few MCI-5's. I got to train on one adn also one that had been completely refurbed on a run to Charleston, WVa out of Winston Salem,NC. It had been sold to a church in Cleveland and was being worked her way there to it's last run as a Greyhound. She ran perfectly !!
I wonder when Greyhound got rid of the PD3751. I remember the Senicruiser and the MC-7 by MCI. They kept the MC7s and replaced them with MC8s and later MC9s. On the 4-speed stick, to back the bus up, you had to put the shift lever in 1st, throw a switch on the dash and once you put your clutch in, you really had to pull back because you had to go past 2nd gear. Reverse sat behind 2nd gear in the gearbox. Once you got done backing up, you made sure that switch was turned off or else!
If I had a 4104 [requiring the licence, the money, the insurance,] I'd probaly name it Tiffany, only 1) folks would besiege me to take them places [!] and 2) friends might make Freudian jokes abiout getting INTO her,..:) I'd just say, well, do YOU have one..:)There's some good videos on PD 4104s and 4106's and such. I agreee on 4104's being the finest built.
Former drives of the Silverside told me that it was a good bus, but the steering from stop positions and 5 miles per hour was horrible!
The 4104's were the finiest built. The drivers loved the 4104's. On the highway I'm told they would lay right down to the road and one could put the hammer down
I doubt ANY scynros existed then, but then what do I know.." I have a bok "FLXIBLE Highway Buses" [B..Luke, Iconographix Press, 2002] which mentioned a couple of Flxbles with "SYncro" trans. BTW unlike GM/Greyhound FlXIBL:E had a number of transmission options,l four speed with two speed rear, and five..
Plus to reverse asd mentioned on had to solenoid-ize their way [did I REALLY jnust say ":solenoid-ize?] into reverse as mentioned, 1-2 shift while pushing a button. Plus the shift lever is on the sterring column on these models ["Silversides"].
In GM and most bus manual trannys, they were not sincro-mesh. One had to double clutch and shift at precise points or grind and try the shift again. But in this model, if the driver missed his shift, the bus had to be halted and started from Zero again. These were a beast to drive. But the6-71 GM was what put GM and Greyhound on the map.
"..That bus had a 4 speed on the column with electric solinoid which turned 2nd into reverse. This is what all GM highway coaches had up until auto's were .."
Except of course that the gearshifter moved to the floor [THE PLACE to be for gearshifts on buses and trucks excluding pickups] after that and before that.
They had 4-speed stick shift transmissions till the 70s hit, when they started haivng autos as someone else said, but the discussion is stick shits and GMCs only had four gears [SOME competitors like Crown had 10, Flxible and later MCI expierimened with more, but the 4 speed/6 or 8 cyliinder match up was one made in heaven.]
That bus had a 4 speed on the column with electric solinoid which turned 2nd into reverse. " I've heard that only TRHEE gears (Silversides, of the time, then), were fitted on those babies.
That bus had a 4 speed on the column with electric solinoid which turned 2nd into reverse. This is what all GM highway coaches had up until auto's were developed for high speed running.
Love that column shift & the music of the 6v71.
pioneermci 1 week ago
@1985jon I agree. Caterpillar makes amazing engines, though.
brapboys503 2 months ago
She still has her four speed stick.
Stick on wheel+PD 3751=Silversides [built 1940s for Greyhound by GMC].
SteveCarras 9 months ago
@1985jon Ah. Ok. I agree with you. Like everyone, I want to breath clean air. But not if it sacrifices performance or drivability. That's bullshit.
Seattlecarnut 11 months ago
@Seattlecarnut Did you know that the quality of our air has improved 700% in the last 30 years? I'm thinking about running an old 2-stroke 3 cylinder Saab from now on.
brapboys503 2 months ago
@1985jon Gay emissions standards? What exactly does that mean?
Seattlecarnut 11 months ago
4SPD ON THE TREE BUS WOW.
mccrackenphillip 1 year ago
YES!! Is this bus actually being used by Greyhound in this video? Or does someone privately own this bus? Either way, SWEET! A classic American icon for sure, powered by a classic American engine!!
willDANCEforPENNIES 1 year ago
@willDANCEforPENNIES It's got a belgian license plate and the vid was shot in the Netherlands.
flexyco 1 year ago
That's a cool looking old bus and I LOVE the sound of the screamin Jimmy! Nice vid
turbosuperiority 1 year ago
Wow this is a great video!!
Jovan9603 1 year ago
It supprises meto see a 62 Year old bus still in comission. But those buses are ment to last a very long time
greyhound4211 1 year ago
@greyhound4211 It's not being used commercially.
flexyco 1 year ago
I've been told by former Greyhound drivers that the 1948 #3751's were good driving buses but....they had no power steering and turning corners at low speed was like pulling a Army tank. The sweetest coaches to driver were the #4101's and the Scenicruisers. True or False?
Chesterbarnes1 1 year ago
@Chesterbarnes1 When I drove for Greyhound in the 1960s, the favorite by most drivers was the late model 4106. The Scenics were great on long hauls on expressways with limited access ramps because stopping distance was quite long. My second favorite, especially in bad weather, was the 4104.
brightonmusic 1 year ago
No shit! I've never understood why the US EPA is always demanding newer and "safer" vehicles, when it's not always the vehicles themselves that are dangerous, it's the drivers and occupants.
Seattlecarnut 1 year ago
You don't see very many of these old buses being used anymore. I don't know why. If they're properly maintained instead of letting them deteriorate to death, then they can be used today.
Seattlecarnut 1 year ago 9
Yeah, but then those retards at the EPA would be bitching. And we can't have that now, can we? That would be bad.
SteyrM1912 1 year ago 2
@SteyrM1912 Retards indeed. The EPA neither knows nor gives two shits about what makes a vehicle safer or cleaner for our environment.
Seattlecarnut 1 year ago 6
Just like being there!
Lookup2Wakeup 1 year ago
I have a PD 3751 1948 GMC Bus for sale. Call 605-458-2563 Cand Send pics.
MrAttitude1000 1 year ago
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@MrAttitude1000 ,,,Did you sell it?. Either way, send pix to pappycaligula@gmail.com. Was yours roadworthy and original OR converted?
Thanks..Column shifter?. Wow!
PappyCaligula 1 year ago
Wonder what it would have been like to travel through the sweltering heat on a bus like that. Then pulling into an old Greyhound station. Wish I could go back in time and do just that.
ethicomm 2 years ago
@ethicomm Amen to that.
mongo5888 1 year ago
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MegaZsolti 2 years ago
That is the coolest shifter I have ever saw.
crazyman7000 2 years ago 4
@crazyman7000 Column shift, have to get the revs right to shift.No synchros what-so-ever. OH, and they still have the 6-foot dogs on the side...!Man!
PappyCaligula 1 year ago
In 1980 Greyhound still had a few MCI-5's. I got to train on one adn also one that had been completely refurbed on a run to Charleston, WVa out of Winston Salem,NC. It had been sold to a church in Cleveland and was being worked her way there to it's last run as a Greyhound. She ran perfectly !!
robanddean1 2 years ago
I wonder when Greyhound got rid of the PD3751. I remember the Senicruiser and the MC-7 by MCI. They kept the MC7s and replaced them with MC8s and later MC9s. On the 4-speed stick, to back the bus up, you had to put the shift lever in 1st, throw a switch on the dash and once you put your clutch in, you really had to pull back because you had to go past 2nd gear. Reverse sat behind 2nd gear in the gearbox. Once you got done backing up, you made sure that switch was turned off or else!
Streetcar1743 2 years ago
So that was where the reverse was in relation to the second, as I knew both were on the second, with solenoid swithc to second.
So I guess
that the pattern is
1 3
2 4
R
SteveCarras 2 years ago
If I had a 4104 [requiring the licence, the money, the insurance,] I'd probaly name it Tiffany, only 1) folks would besiege me to take them places [!] and 2) friends might make Freudian jokes abiout getting INTO her,..:) I'd just say, well, do YOU have one..:)There's some good videos on PD 4104s and 4106's and such. I agreee on 4104's being the finest built.
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Former drives of the Silverside told me that it was a good bus, but the steering from stop positions and 5 miles per hour was horrible!
The 4104's were the finiest built. The drivers loved the 4104's. On the highway I'm told they would lay right down to the road and one could put the hammer down
Chesterbarnes1 2 years ago
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SteveCarras 2 years ago
How did they get this over to the Netherlands?
bcmasta1 2 years ago
I doubt ANY scynros existed then, but then what do I know.." I have a bok "FLXIBLE Highway Buses" [B..Luke, Iconographix Press, 2002] which mentioned a couple of Flxbles with "SYncro" trans. BTW unlike GM/Greyhound FlXIBL:E had a number of transmission options,l four speed with two speed rear, and five..
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Plus to reverse asd mentioned on had to solenoid-ize their way [did I REALLY jnust say ":solenoid-ize?] into reverse as mentioned, 1-2 shift while pushing a button. Plus the shift lever is on the sterring column on these models ["Silversides"].
SteveCarras 2 years ago
6-71 was a great engine.
BernardR30 3 years ago 2
Prachtig. Stuurversnelling Is dat wat!!
silvester59 3 years ago
In GM and most bus manual trannys, they were not sincro-mesh. One had to double clutch and shift at precise points or grind and try the shift again. But in this model, if the driver missed his shift, the bus had to be halted and started from Zero again. These were a beast to drive. But the6-71 GM was what put GM and Greyhound on the map.
humanodometer 3 years ago 4
this was in my grandmas child hood
jamin108 3 years ago 3
Makes me wonder how this bus got to Holland?
cpd659 3 years ago
"..That bus had a 4 speed on the column with electric solinoid which turned 2nd into reverse. This is what all GM highway coaches had up until auto's were .."
Except of course that the gearshifter moved to the floor [THE PLACE to be for gearshifts on buses and trucks excluding pickups] after that and before that.
SteveCarras 3 years ago
They had 4-speed stick shift transmissions till the 70s hit, when they started haivng autos as someone else said, but the discussion is stick shits and GMCs only had four gears [SOME competitors like Crown had 10, Flxible and later MCI expierimened with more, but the 4 speed/6 or 8 cyliinder match up was one made in heaven.]
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Where was this Mexico? South America?
retroolschool 3 years ago
That bus had a 4 speed on the column with electric solinoid which turned 2nd into reverse. " I've heard that only TRHEE gears (Silversides, of the time, then), were fitted on those babies.
Magicians, those solenoids.
SteveCarras 3 years ago
That bus had a 4 speed on the column with electric solinoid which turned 2nd into reverse. This is what all GM highway coaches had up until auto's were developed for high speed running.
gtroyan 3 years ago
Whoa! very very nice, 2 stroke GM , great styling , what more could you want. 1940's classic styling. please check out my 1951 Clipper.
busman1951 3 years ago
I've never seen a bus with a 671 in it. and a 3 on the tree shifter? Thats cool!
Hotrodx199 3 years ago
I think this is actually a 4 speed tranmission. GM gave it thier automotive touch
greeniron32 3 years ago 2
Tres chic.
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Waar was dit, en is er meer informatie te vinden over deze prachtige bus?
CreRay 3 years ago
Is this an over-the-road Old Look?
RDG484 3 years ago
Never mind. After seeing it in the reflection it wasn't what I was thinking of.
RDG484 3 years ago
Nice video! Nice piece of history too!
swollario 3 years ago
damn nice a 6l71
peterbiltexd 3 years ago
I would love to own that old bus
kgriggs75 3 years ago 2