The GRID is a waste of money. Decentralize distributed generators are safer & more reliable. Anyone who calls for building the national GRID is an enemy of the people.
Most of the energy crisis come from the collapse of the GRID. Centralized forms of power are a major source of problems.
Stop the GRID. Stop dirty coal & nukes. Build solar powered homes. -- Amory Lovins
The grid is not a waste of money. Decentralized generators may be safer but are clearly not more reliable. The US has one of the most reliable power systems in the world.
Energy Crisis - usually used to describe a lack of available power which results from too many people using too much power, not from grid infrastructure.
FYI - without the grid, a decentralized distributed generation network will not work.
The God argument posted by Latteliberal would not be worth a respons at all if it weren't so ignorant as to be illustrative of how we got into this mess.
First off, it assumes the existence of a divine being. This has not been proven.
Secondly, it assumes that we would know what said divine being wants by what substances he/she/it put in the ground.
Third, it is irrelevent to the point we are discussing.
ome people just don;t get it. They woudl rather stand around and sniff Rush Limbaugh's butt all day and regurgitate his propganda instead of workign to solve the problem.
Now, LatteLiberal, that's just ignorant. I guess if God didn't want us to be exposed to radon gas he wouldn't let it bubble up to the surface of the Earth.
Perhaps God wants us all to get skin cancer since he put that big sun so close to our planet.
Same goes for cyanide, mercury, lead, trans-fats, hot McDonald's coffee and a host of other things that are very bad for us.
You see how totally ridiculous these posts are? This is how America has gotten into this mess! It's time to wake up and realize that if we don't straighten our act out now, we'll be a 3rd world nation like Russia was after the 80s! Every dollar spent on anything other than renewables is a wasted dollar and more importantly wasted TIME!
This is more liberal junk science. If God didn't want nuclear power he wouldnt put uranium in the ground where its easy to get. Solar panels are hard to get and so is conservation. Im not going to turn off some stupid light and pretend its going to fix anything.
So what you are saying is that the complicated mess that uranium enrichment and nuclear power plant construction is somehow proves a point that god wants us to use nuclear. I'm all for new forms of progressive power, but when we create a waste product that is dangerous to all life for 100,000 years it's still in the experimental realm. Solar and wind are easy, clean and come from HEAVEN! Where's the argument?
@Whaaat2008 the argument is that god and heaven have nothing to do with anything as they are fictional characters in a children's book, catch up too modern times, solar power comes from the sun and wind comes from heat differences between the equator and the poles.
Juscurious, you're exposing yourself as an emotional "hater of Lovins" for some unknown reason. Please stop wasting our time with your ignorant posts. It's obvious that everything you post here can be debunked in about 3 seconds of web-based research alone. Give it a rest! And by the way, Nuclear energy is a dirty WASTE of time and money.
I've been away for a while working on energy porjects. Yes whaaat2008 some of us actually work in the Energy Field. You are probably just one of the ignorant people who post without any knowledge. Please go surf the porn sites and leave energy to the grown ups who actually went to Engineering School.
The reason I despise Lovins is because he is a charlatan. He is a complete fraud and has an easy time fooling dolts like you. Some of these congressmen actually believe him.
Boy, juscurious, you sure are cool now. So you just plugged in your TV set, great energy project! I wish I could pull away from my porn long enough to flip on a light switch. You've proven in the past that you know NOTHING of what Amory Lovins and the RMI has done. You've proven that all you can do is troll YouTube and put down anyone who is working toward the new energy programs. I submit to the reading public that juscurious must be an oil operative and not really very good at it. Go away.
Can you please elaborate on how Amory Lovins is a charlatan? If he is indeed a fraud then why do so many companies world-wide hire him to help them save energy and money? Why has the RMI grown so much if his work is fraudulent?
Rocky Mountain Hype! Lovins is FLAT OUT WRONG. He is a complete fool in my opinion. Nuclear Power is our only means of clean reliable energy. Nuclear power is only uneconomical becasue of the LAWSUITS that stop projects. This drives up UNCERTAINITY AND costs and this is why it is uneconomical. What this clown hasn't talked about is France. France gets 80% of its power from Nuclear. Lovins never mentions this. Besides get in from of a camera and fool gullible interviewers.
Nuc's are our ONLY means of CLEAN RELIABLE energy. 1st- it is not our only means. If you study the problem, solar and wind are growing fast. The US added more wind power last year than coal in the last 5. Then there are small solar and wind for dispersed power generation. 2nd- Clean, are you kidding? We can't even get rid of the toxic radioactive waste. Recently, the French dumped radioactive material in their water and are telling people not to drink the water.
3rd- Reliable? Of the 253 plants originally planned, only 132 were actually built. Of those 21% were permanently and prematurely closed because of unreliability or/and cost. Another 27% have failed for a year or more at least once. We get part of our electricity from a nuc. and several times over the years, the plant has gone down and took our street lights and traffic lights with it. They make great terrorists targets though. The capitalists are not buying.
Okay, you like nuclear and are upset that they are not being built. I understand your frustration. I have a favorite power generation method myself, solar power sat's. They cost less and kill fewer people than the Iraq war, but the idea didn't sell. Too bad, live with it. Now what can I do? I've cut my usage in half and plan to use wind and solar on property I'm buying. You are a EE. Design and market an affordable electric car conversion kit, and put me down as your first customer.
I am a big fan of RMI and what they stand for, but Amory Lovins is so hard to listen to. As for nuclear power fusion seams to be the new solution, that the Chinese are making great advances in.
Solar power has become very affordable. Wind power as well. Painting on solar panels will help many. Thank you for posting.
bcanna1111 7 months ago 7
To anyone who believes that ever-decreasing cold temperatures disprove global warming, please see my proof on my YT channel. They do NOT disprove GW.
nahaymath 1 year ago
The GRID is a waste of money. Decentralize distributed generators are safer & more reliable. Anyone who calls for building the national GRID is an enemy of the people.
Most of the energy crisis come from the collapse of the GRID. Centralized forms of power are a major source of problems.
Stop the GRID. Stop dirty coal & nukes. Build solar powered homes. -- Amory Lovins
paul8kangas 2 years ago 2
The grid is not a waste of money. Decentralized generators may be safer but are clearly not more reliable. The US has one of the most reliable power systems in the world.
Energy Crisis - usually used to describe a lack of available power which results from too many people using too much power, not from grid infrastructure.
FYI - without the grid, a decentralized distributed generation network will not work.
eukota 2 years ago
Amory = brilliant
pissysteve 2 years ago 2
Go on, Americans, believe it.
bocckoka 3 years ago
The wise man schools the deaf, corrupted mafia clan.
trakkaton 3 years ago
The God argument posted by Latteliberal would not be worth a respons at all if it weren't so ignorant as to be illustrative of how we got into this mess.
First off, it assumes the existence of a divine being. This has not been proven.
Secondly, it assumes that we would know what said divine being wants by what substances he/she/it put in the ground.
Third, it is irrelevent to the point we are discussing.
cxpage 3 years ago
ome people just don;t get it. They woudl rather stand around and sniff Rush Limbaugh's butt all day and regurgitate his propganda instead of workign to solve the problem.
cxpage 3 years ago
Now, LatteLiberal, that's just ignorant. I guess if God didn't want us to be exposed to radon gas he wouldn't let it bubble up to the surface of the Earth.
Perhaps God wants us all to get skin cancer since he put that big sun so close to our planet.
Same goes for cyanide, mercury, lead, trans-fats, hot McDonald's coffee and a host of other things that are very bad for us.
Gee, God must hate us!
cxpage 3 years ago
CXP,
You see how totally ridiculous these posts are? This is how America has gotten into this mess! It's time to wake up and realize that if we don't straighten our act out now, we'll be a 3rd world nation like Russia was after the 80s! Every dollar spent on anything other than renewables is a wasted dollar and more importantly wasted TIME!
Whaaat2008 3 years ago
This is more liberal junk science. If God didn't want nuclear power he wouldnt put uranium in the ground where its easy to get. Solar panels are hard to get and so is conservation. Im not going to turn off some stupid light and pretend its going to fix anything.
LatteLiberal 3 years ago
So what you are saying is that the complicated mess that uranium enrichment and nuclear power plant construction is somehow proves a point that god wants us to use nuclear. I'm all for new forms of progressive power, but when we create a waste product that is dangerous to all life for 100,000 years it's still in the experimental realm. Solar and wind are easy, clean and come from HEAVEN! Where's the argument?
Whaaat2008 3 years ago 6
@Whaaat2008 the argument is that god and heaven have nothing to do with anything as they are fictional characters in a children's book, catch up too modern times, solar power comes from the sun and wind comes from heat differences between the equator and the poles.
Sadistichippo 10 months ago
Juscurious, you're exposing yourself as an emotional "hater of Lovins" for some unknown reason. Please stop wasting our time with your ignorant posts. It's obvious that everything you post here can be debunked in about 3 seconds of web-based research alone. Give it a rest! And by the way, Nuclear energy is a dirty WASTE of time and money.
Whaaat2008 3 years ago
I've been away for a while working on energy porjects. Yes whaaat2008 some of us actually work in the Energy Field. You are probably just one of the ignorant people who post without any knowledge. Please go surf the porn sites and leave energy to the grown ups who actually went to Engineering School.
The reason I despise Lovins is because he is a charlatan. He is a complete fraud and has an easy time fooling dolts like you. Some of these congressmen actually believe him.
juscurious 3 years ago
Boy, juscurious, you sure are cool now. So you just plugged in your TV set, great energy project! I wish I could pull away from my porn long enough to flip on a light switch. You've proven in the past that you know NOTHING of what Amory Lovins and the RMI has done. You've proven that all you can do is troll YouTube and put down anyone who is working toward the new energy programs. I submit to the reading public that juscurious must be an oil operative and not really very good at it. Go away.
Whaaat2008 3 years ago 3
juscurious,
Can you please elaborate on how Amory Lovins is a charlatan? If he is indeed a fraud then why do so many companies world-wide hire him to help them save energy and money? Why has the RMI grown so much if his work is fraudulent?
dogbertbc 2 years ago
Rocky Mountain Hype! Lovins is FLAT OUT WRONG. He is a complete fool in my opinion. Nuclear Power is our only means of clean reliable energy. Nuclear power is only uneconomical becasue of the LAWSUITS that stop projects. This drives up UNCERTAINITY AND costs and this is why it is uneconomical. What this clown hasn't talked about is France. France gets 80% of its power from Nuclear. Lovins never mentions this. Besides get in from of a camera and fool gullible interviewers.
juscurious 3 years ago
Nuc's are our ONLY means of CLEAN RELIABLE energy. 1st- it is not our only means. If you study the problem, solar and wind are growing fast. The US added more wind power last year than coal in the last 5. Then there are small solar and wind for dispersed power generation. 2nd- Clean, are you kidding? We can't even get rid of the toxic radioactive waste. Recently, the French dumped radioactive material in their water and are telling people not to drink the water.
FreesWorld 3 years ago 5
3rd- Reliable? Of the 253 plants originally planned, only 132 were actually built. Of those 21% were permanently and prematurely closed because of unreliability or/and cost. Another 27% have failed for a year or more at least once. We get part of our electricity from a nuc. and several times over the years, the plant has gone down and took our street lights and traffic lights with it. They make great terrorists targets though. The capitalists are not buying.
FreesWorld 3 years ago 3
Okay, you like nuclear and are upset that they are not being built. I understand your frustration. I have a favorite power generation method myself, solar power sat's. They cost less and kill fewer people than the Iraq war, but the idea didn't sell. Too bad, live with it. Now what can I do? I've cut my usage in half and plan to use wind and solar on property I'm buying. You are a EE. Design and market an affordable electric car conversion kit, and put me down as your first customer.
FreesWorld 3 years ago 2
Go Amory! Great as usuall.
calvinjones 3 years ago 2
Thank you Amory! You are the man!
chitchin 3 years ago
Whaaaaaaaaat!
jcunniff55 3 years ago
I am a big fan of RMI and what they stand for, but Amory Lovins is so hard to listen to. As for nuclear power fusion seams to be the new solution, that the Chinese are making great advances in.
curlyfry562 3 years ago