How to sync a MIDI device to audio

[Ni5ei]

I would've liked if you'd altered the tempo during playing. How fast does it pick up tempo changes?

[antigreenjacket]

I thought the Korg instrument automatically picks up the tempo of an outside source? Mine does.

[velliosant]

great video! has anyone tried this on reason propellerheads (it doesn't support midi out)? I'm thinking of taking the audio signal of the metronome and convert it into midi signal to synch my hardware synths. Any experience please?

[groovindj]

@Olva1994 yes, some DJ software will send a MIDI clock output when a song is played.

[lsamoa]

Genius! Thank you so much for this video!!! I've been wondering how to sync drum machines with the BPM of audio loops from a loop pedal or from record players, and you solved my problem! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

[tomfurstyfield]

Can you use the soundbite with a DAW, say ableton live and the ESX. Live's a bit of a dog when it comes to syncing so I'm looking for something to control it all

[groovindj]

@tomfurstyfield You could use it with Live, but the flaw is with Live's external sync, so I don't think it would help.

Ableton have yet to fix the problem.

[bergweg]

of the 3 devices you've presented in this video, which one did you find the most stable/reliable?

[groovindj]

@bergweg Soundbite Micro.

[Zakrza100]

good video !!!! ;-)

[uRDjInXeD]

was there anything you did with the settings on the Korg?

[groovindj]

You have to set the clock to external, obviously!

[uRDjInXeD]

Do you have any experience with a Roland MC-909? I can't get it to work...

[groovindj]

No, sorry.

[djyourgofromlelystad]

wow,this is great!I,m looking for this for a long time,I wanna have it!Whats the price??

[groovindj]

Why don't you follow the link provided in the info box?

[groovindj]

Best set up in my experience is the unit in the video!

[frugola92]

ok! thank you!

[frugola92]

uhmm whith dance 80-90-2000 not problem but taste whith disco 70 for example afro cuba ......

[groovindj]

This device is very good at following the tempo, but can also be pushed or pulled manually if it does drift off.

[Ravenn88]

Yes... very interesting..... but how do you connect your headphone for the pre-listening?

[groovindj]

You can use a splitter lead or if your mixer has aux sends, use those to send audio to the sync device.

[foundationcuts]

you truly are an asset to the highway of information, im going out and buy so much shit now it's not even funny! lol

[stormshadow2100]

Thanks for the Video groovindj ,i have the KORG KP3 and got it too sync my Electribe MX and roland sp 555 in which all worked fine synching them to my decks ...nice one dude !!

Just one question , you said The Red Sound unit is much more accurate than the KP3 which version is your KP3 as mine was v3 when i got it .

[groovindj]

The firmware in mine is version 2. As far as I am aware this is the latest.

[stormshadow2100]

sorry my mistake it is firmware 2 ,again great video ive been looking for a solution on the audio/midi sync thing :)

[FaithizFear]

What happens when you try to beat match your 2nd deck/cdj? Will your drum machine start to sync to the bpm of you trying to beat match since you will be using your headphones to listen to the 2nd deck?

[groovindj]

The ideal way is to use a mixer with aux sends, which can feed the SoundBite separately.

[FaithizFear]

Wow I'm an idiot...Thanks for the info, looks like I'll be ordering one.

[poluxeke]

I tried to sync my kp2 with my esx... and it doesn't work. The kp2 has a bpm counter and a midi ext... So Is it working only with a kp3? Or I miss something?? Thanks!!

ps: great video!!!

[groovindj]

I don't know, as I do not own a KP2. I suggest you read the KP2 manual.

[DJINFX]

Does the soundbite micro follow tempo changes well? I tried syncing music from my mixer through my KP3, to a zoom drum machine. Did not work. I was able to sync the KP3 drum section directly to my zoom drum machine, and it did follow tempo changes pretty well, but why couldn't I sync audio to my drum machine through the KP3? I was impressed how the ESX kept on tempo with the track in the video. Should I just buy the SB micro? could I expect the same results as you? Thanks, and great video!

[groovindj]

I'm not aware of anything that does it better. It can be nudged as well, if it does start losing it, in either direction.

[longstonestudio]

Very thorough and easy to understand video. Excellent. Thanks very much.

[karlalley]

Great video! How well would you say that this unit syncs overall and with different songs? I had a go with the Pioneer DJM-800 midi sync function and it made my tr-707 drift out of time within only a few bars.. and it was the same with whatever cd I tried to sync to.

[groovindj]

Red are the masters at doing this. I'm pretty sure that their technology is used by other companies too because it's so good.

[karlalley]

Guess I'll have to buy one and try it out for myself :)

[RoshiRoshi]

What do you think would be my best option for looping what i'm playing on guitar to sync with an Electribe. I would like to be able to control my electribe and also play my guitar live.

[groovindj]

Have a look at the Boss RC-50.

[dired1]

Thank you, only one question, I heard that the kaosspads are making the audio signal bad. Is that right, does your kaosspad make the original audio signal worse?

[groovindj]

Not that I've noticed. I guess it depends on the quality of your speakers - you might hear something if your system is good enough.

[dired1]

ok thanks for the quick answer :D I am not sure if I should grant the kp3 for christmas

[TEOFX]

i use ableton live with uc 33...i want to play with my friends he use traktor scratch..can i do that whit a soundbite micro?

[groovindj]

In theory, yes - but I'm not sure how good Ableton is at external sync.

[theau61]

What about having 2 of them ? One for syncing and the other for looping. I can't find any cheap loopers that could sync my old analog gear and my new midi gear ?

Btw : thx for the quick feedback.

[groovindj]

I would suggest looking elsewhere for a looping/sampling device. The Micro is very basic compared to the Kaoss Pad 3 for example.

You won't get one device that does it all.

[theau61]

Hi !

Can you use both features on the sound bites micro : Syncing and sampling. Let say first you sync and send midi info to your midi harware or soft and then you swith the sound bite to looper mode to have fun (and always in sync with your midi harware ??? Is this possible or you have to chose either one or the other option (as I understand there is a switch to choose).

Then my thoughts would be. Is it usefull to have 2 soundbite micro then (one for midi sync and one for looping). thx.

[groovindj]

You are correct. There is a 'mode' switch which changes between MIDI and loop mode.

This device would not be my first choice for looping, It's better at syncing than looping!

[LeonAndrews8585]

Really good mate thanks, you have given us a lot to think about buying cheers!

[suedemclovin]

song name??

[groovindj]

Read the info box!

[PSI236]

And you have a KP3 and an EFX. You must do some more demos of these things!

[groovindj]

There are already loads of videos on YouTube featuring the Kaoss Pad, the EFX and the Electribes.

I try to do videos that no one else has done before.

[PSI236]

Youve got some cool stuff, 400 and Electribe

[jinithith2]

wait one question, how would I use this when the RC-50 hates being the slave in the MIDI chain? can the soundbyte do anything in this situation?

[groovindj]

Sounds like an issue with the RC-50. What do Roland have to say about it?

[jinithith2]

they havent really looked at it that much. the RC-50 has problems with syncing with each other (if two RC-50s are running at the same time). but its always "we're working on it" and I believe them and don't blame them for it cos the problem is not consistent. sometimes its there and sometimes its not.

[jinithith2]

THATS SICK!!! I'm so glad I found this thing. thanks so much for posting this vid!

[djsquidge69]

i have a question ragerding using this setup with ableton on a lap top.

.. the lead midi leads u get with the micro. are small usb for the micro end an midi 5 pin for the pc end. but my laptop only uses usb in for midi not the pin, ( and the micro maual says only to use their supplied cable) but do u think i can jus use a small usb then a normal usb to go to the lappy or is their another way to connect it??? thanks

[groovindj]

A standard MIDI connection is 5 pin PIN, which is why the Micro has those. It's so it can connect straight to drum machines, samplers, synths etc.

You need a MIDI interface for your PC. You can get something which is just a cable or you can get an external box.

I use one called a Mistar MIDIlink.

[djsquidge69]

thanks for the advice been rackin my brains try in to work out out to sync it. i had the micro for ages but ended up just using it as a sampler. cheers mate

[djpaulyoyo]

thanks for posting these videos, i found them very usefull. I have some questions.

The soundbite micro would be able to keep the sync for a lot of time, if i pitch up or down, the midi clock will stick to the music beat? how accurate could be mixing latin music, or old rock music that was played withoud a click and doesn't have a constant beat

Thanks

[groovindj]

It doesn't need a 100% steady beat, because it tracks in real time, so any variations in tempo would be picked up and sent to the MIDI device. Final accuracy depends on the other device(s) in the chain.

[deejayteewax]

... I want to sync my sampler (just midi in) with my loopstation (no midi)... Is it possible with the soundbite micro ???

[groovindj]

Is that the Boss pedal? Yeah, I guess that would work in the same way. The SoundBite would need to 'hear' the sound of the loops from the pedal, then it would generate MIDI clock for the sampler. The accuracy would depend on the clock rate of the sampler.

[zar187]

Dude thats cool and all but to much work to sync with the electribe, I have one it has the same feature you speak of that the kaoss pad detects the audio's bpm, theres really no need for the red sound mirco, you set the audio thru and press the auto bpm scan and it will detect it fairly well and if not, just tap the beat out on the electribe.

[groovindj]

The Red Sound unit is much more accurate than the KP3 or the EFX500. I tried all three (but cut it from the video because of length).

[blazetblaze]

I would have loved to see you change the pitch on the CDJ and see if it caught up with it.

[briansredd]

You really do have all the coolest toys, Paul!

Thanks for this!

[mattd28]

great stuff.

[vinyljunkie07]

Don't forget the Red sound Micro Sync, a great device!

Also for everyone out there make sure your sequencers clock is set to EXT not INT

Great vid mate

[bromobo]

thank you

[bromobo]

from wich company is the red mixer?

[thomasbd15]

KORG

[groovindj]

The Korg ESX-1 is not a mixer. Korg call it a "music production sampler".

[ellaskins]

I feel it's my turn to do a spoof of the grooooving mr dj soooon!! lol J

[djMadder]

THANKS go out to you groovindj!

I picked up the Soundbite and have succesfully Synced my external audio to Ableton Live(as an external sync) enabaling me to sync my CDJ to Ableton and my VSTi's

Ill put a video up shortly of using the SoundBite Micro to Sync to Software as an External Clock

but THANKS AGAIN for showing this video it helped me out incredibly

[groovindj]

No problem!

[neikocaroline]

could you make mix of Lykke's song and put it on youtube, plz?

[kagasuka]

Might be blind, but where is your email-adress? :)

[groovindj]

Click on the link to my profile, then click 'send message' (on the left, under my profile).

[kagasuka]

Hi mate, can you please explain how to setup this unit to Ableton live? With use of my soundcards midi port?

[groovindj]

Sure. Drop me a mail.

[djMadder]

I also need help in this area I want to sync the CDJ 400 to ableton Live any video or if I can also drop an email let me know

[groovindj]

Yeah, send me a mail.

[dj99surf]

very helpful, i'm thinking of getting a drum/sampler later this year.

[Maxsdiscos]

so the gears basically for homemixing

[groovindj]

There are many uses. Many DJs now use Ableton in a live set and need to keep their computer in sync with the audio from their mix.

[yvesmdjgryphon]

You have a lot of gear, I guess you're a professional producer?

About the syncing, too bad it just sends the BPM, and no kind of beat pulse, so you can change tempo on the fly. but cool anyway, some extra drums :)

[groovindj]

Not pro but been doing stuff with synths, samplers and stuff since the Akai S900 first came out.

[djsellman123]

nice 1 m8

it sounds like a nice little remix aswell