PIAXP April 2009 Registered Teams B-Roll Footage

[MyMMC]

zero tracer probably the fastest...

but this thing tcost fucking 100k .-(

[ClownFight]

it's almost 2012 and the only electric sedan anywhere near production is the Tesla Type S. Still, no matter how green the car is it will never be green enough for the Chardonnay sipping socialist eco-mentalists who poo-poo everything without being able to come up with a single prototype of anything... ever.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight Your notion of what's out there is close

to ten years behind now. You need to see what's out

there, everything from full-sized light-weight cars with

150 mi/charge and 55 mph to the scads of electric

recumbents, bikes, trikes and velomobiles that are

taking over the small vehicle market. If you think you

want something that will do what a gas hog does, then

get set for a shock, you won't be able to do that much

longer, you'll need a lot smaller vehicle, or ride a bus.

[ClownFight]

@rstevewarmorycom To clarify: I have a deposit on a Tesla due for delivery late in 2013. I am saddened by many of the YouTube commenters who criticise almost all EV development, too many of whom are PRO-environment. They fail to understand the development and evolutionary process of the EV market. They say EV's are not green enough because they use part coal/electricity or they have imported batteries etc etc. These green idiots do as much harm to the EV markets' potential as the pro-oil idiots.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight To clarify: If everyone who now has a car

bought a Tesla, and drove it as much, then we would still

destroy the world inside of 30 years, because the resources

it would require to do that would forestall the use of that

time, energy, and material to rebuild a new non-carbon-based

electrical grid, and we'd eat through enough carbon keeping

them all running to have as much of a damaging effect as

if we'd burned gasoline at the present rate.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight Teslas are an appeal to the suicidal notion of

keeping the same carefree functionality and waste and

greed with no learning or changing our ways required. They

are a lie that muscle car owners like to tell themselves before they

go to bed, to keep them from thinking too hard.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight If you think that scaring the people who

want to go to sleep and forget is going to make them

backlash against a new and different way, then we're

all just fucked already, we're dead and we might as well

give up, because it means this species isn't worth saving.

Molly-coddling people who are so stupid that they don't

care, they just want to cruise the strip some more isn't

going to help anybody, such people need a hard smack in

the face with the 2x4 of reality coming.

[ClownFight]

@rstevewarmorycom OK, I get it now. You're a carbon nutjob who believes your own bullshit that the world will end in 30 years unless we all ride donkeys. Do the world a favor and speed up the process by 29 years and kill yourself now to avoid the rush.

Where do you people come from? Friggen moonbats. Sheesh.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight You don't "get" much. And donkeys

aren't important. We can't breed enough horses in time.

What we need is to curtail unnecessary travel, by mandating

housing near place of work, maximizing weatherization and

insulation and solar self-heating capacity of buildings using

proper glazing and reflectors, and mandate limits on how far

food can be shipped if there are similar foods available locally.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight And mandate LED lighting only for interior lighting, and expansion

of mass transit and extremely high efficiency vehicles, such as

light weight electric enclosed vehicles using much lighter materials

and bicycle/moped level structural technology, and limit airline

travel encouraging and giving tax incentives for teleconferencing

and minimizing materials transport to necessities, and then expand

solar and wind based renewable energy with the materials and energy

saved.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@ClownFight If you don't believe any of this is necessary to avoid

an extreme hit to our complete way of life, I think you have a lot more reading to do. The one thing that might save us if it hurries up is the

decline in petroleum extraction because the fields are running dry.

If prices on petrol go up fast enough it might just limit the otherwise

expected mass deaths in the third world and in desert regions.

[kousoulides]

so 136 vehicles yet no one good enough for mass production?

[rstevewarmorycom]

@kousoulides All of them are good enough for that, the

competition is merely to try to pick the one to invest in

if you have too much money. And people who have too

much money wait to decide till it's too late, because they

want to see who else wants it first.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@kousoulides What you don't realize

is that Chevy and Ford and etc are well-known NOT because

their shit worked the best, it usually didn't, but because it

looked like something they could make cheap and sucker

people into buying, and then the rich made it famous by

throwing great gobs of money at it and stupid commercials

talking about your masculinity and your sex life to make you

think you needed it to get laid or think you weren't just a putz.

[cdowell1976]

Venture One has been around for nearly 6 yrs & they still haven't produced anything. Just a stupid website w/ an ever changing list of financiers. Aptera has been producing for nearly a yr & was around for just 2 yrs & the owner built it largely w/ his own money. I'd go for an Aptera long before a Venture One. venture One is nothing but a farce.

[DBSpy1]

@cdowell1976 I think Venture One used the Fantastic Caver One for know more than start up money scam. Hope someone else really does it,the Caver One sure looked like a nice older person bike. For people that don't want to get cold,hot,wet and so on, but still have a bike experience.

[cdowell1976]

@DBSpy1 You're right on all points. I was thinking about perhaps buying a Carver & having it shipped to the US

[rstevewarmorycom]

@cdowell1976 The problem is that the rich back what

they think will sell, and they don't actually know shit about

that, so they often back losers. They think they know what

is feasible, and they don't, so they lose some money and

run away screaming behind them. Rich people are spoiled

assholes who have no education in what will work or what

will sell, yet to them is entrusted the future of technology.

Better we left it to scientists and get something that works

decently at least.

[Anothercoilgun]

Winner better not use gas at all. I will be pissed.

[ceriman]

Not likely, as combustion engines aren't nearly as efficient as electric motors, putting them at a severe disadvantage. Most likely winners will be battery electric or plug-in hybrids.

[drumzstix666]

Hells yeah with the Canadian FVT eVaro at 0:55 !

[NatureLegalized]

crhaasflt, You got me guessing you know something about lubricants and imagination.

[NatureLegalized]

If the winner runs any petro at all I will cancel my Insurance Policy with Progressive & give this as my reason.

I've had enough to say the least, going further back than the time Reagan ripped down with glee the solar panels Prez Carter had installed on the White House.

[crhaasflt]

I guess in hippie fantasy land all of the automobiles use imaginary lubricants.

[RealUnimportant]

Well, most modern automobiles use "imaginary" mineral-based lubricants - when was the last time you saw someone putting natural oil in their Ferrari?

[Sabress07]

*fingers crossed for Aptera*

2e FTW!

[bduddy55555]

Any time of car qualifies, as long as its energy consumption is low enough.

[mjfowler]

What is the point of making a jerky motion video that makes me want to throw up?

[snarper]

Hope the winning team actually makes a big intact in the market and lots of people get more "environment friendly" cars!

[EletrikRide]

EV's with onboard gensets would qualify

[jprint24]

when is the race across the country?

[bennymcfarlane]

This would be an interesting contest if it was meant for electric cars.

[chris6770]

I think it includes electric too, it said 100mpg 'equivalent' or more - however that energy is generated.

[bennymcfarlane]

oh... interesting :)

[juankrlox]

@bennymcfarlane electric cars use batteries, that are more nocive than gas

[bennymcfarlane]

@juankrlox it could be. I sure am worried about carbon emissions, but who's to say the waste from a battery-powered fleet automobiles would be any less nocive (I had to look up the definition) than sea level rise, massive storms, and sea acidification. And I grant that automobile emissions are only a small fraction of total human CO2 output. I'm still praying for an inexpensive, compact ultracapacitor cell...In the meantime, maybe I'll stop giving the finger to people driving hummers. Maybe not.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@juankrlox Where do you get such ideas. Lithium batteries

are the most completely recyclable and harmless battery

technology, and even if we were stuck with lead acid batteries,

they are also completely recyclable, and using very light-duty

energy consumption to do it. Gasoline puts out five times more

carbon dioxide per useful Watt-Second than when fossil fuels are

consumed in power plants to charge batteries.

[juankrlox]

@rstevewarmorycom poor countries dispose their wastes to the sea or anywhere cheaper than recycling.. anyway you may be right.. but I dont think that cars are the main source of carbon emissions

[rstevewarmorycom]

@juankrlox Vehicles are 45%, followed by electrical

generation from coal, gas, and diesel at 38%, and the

rest is distributed among industrial processes like cooking

the CO2 out of limestone Ca(CO3) for concrete. The carbon

from fossil fuels has less C14 in it, which is how they can

demonstrate its origin, ancient plants have the same balance of

carbon isotopes, old plants mean fossil fuels, and who's burning

fossil fuels if not us? It's not volcanos, & not animals, from the

isotopes.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@juankrlox Lead is far too easy and valuable to recycle, it only takes

550 F degrees to remelt it. And lithium is harmless in the environment,

it's the lightest metal if you don't count hydrogen as a metal, even

though it is! And it's just rare enough to be significantly profitable

to recycle it, and it's easy to recycle.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@juankrlox The internal combustion engine, when used

in the changing milieu of start and stop traffic and variably

efficient rpm is much less efficient than mass energy

production from fossil fuels, and gas engines have no worthy

capability to be run with alternative sources of energy, since

ethanol production is wasteful and inefficient and destroys

the price structure of the world-wide food market for the

underprivileged people of the world, and causes rain-forest

compromise.

[Keylimedelight]

I'm excited, bring it on guys. I'll do what i can to smear this vid around the tubes.

[NatureLegalized]

A good one to 5 Star, Comment, Fave & Share around for sure.

[66NIGHTS]

cool