Dora - Deutsche Schwere Artillerie

[infernofia]

i thought it was saying that only one destroyed the fortress insides, but the rest went into destroying the 30m of rock and metal above it

[GuderianHELLAS]

The biggest disinvestment of the German Wehrmacht???

I don't know... What I do know is that, DORA is a GREAT model!!!

[aartamen]

This video is odd in two aspects. First of all the Germans reported that the fire as highly successful. They might have lied, it's impossible to say now. But I never heard of Germans admitting that they missed all the shots but one. Secondly it was not Dora but Gustav that shot at Sevastopol.

[wotanderwilde]

First: Ever heard of propaganda?

Second: It was Dora. Schwerer Gustav was never in combat..

[gantzmetallica]

it was used in sebastopol, read at wikipedia ... i´m not kiding ...

[TreuerSohn]

Giiiiiiiiigantisch...!!!

Ich wußte das Sie groß war,

aber dassss...unglaublich!!!

[SibirianHusky]

einer der grüssten und teuersten fehlplannt der deutschenwhermacht ^^

vü hast net gholfen aber nice

[Ross4916]

Does anyone know what the cost of one "Dora" type weapon was versus, say, a Type IX U-Boot or versus an ME-109?

[haddul]

The Dora costs about 7.000.000 reichsmark.

the me about 200.000-400.000 (i think)

[Ross4916]

Vielen dank! (I assumed it was much more, like the equivalent of 20 U-Boote or 200 ME-109s). It is just so gigantic.

[easystreets70]

Was es nicht alles gab. Ohne drehbaren Turm aber doch eine ziemliche Fehlplanung, als hätten die Protagonisten zuviel Zeit gehabt - oder ein Versuch, an die Eisenbahngeschütze des ersten Weltkiegs anzuschließen? Zugleich als bunkerbrechende Waffe wiederum ihrer Zeit voraus.

[PeeeVeee]

Und was soll bei der Feuergeschwindigkeit ein drehbarer Turm bringen? Kampfpanzer wird sowieso keiner draus :-)

[easystreets70]

Ich dachte, vielleicht weil sich das Schußfeld so erweitert oder man genauer treffen kann.

[sdkfz162kingtiger]

sicherlich, kennst du "Ratte" noch nicht?

[PeeeVeee]

Und was soll ein drehbarer Turm bringen? Mit so einem Ding kann man von der Statik her eh nur nach vorne schießen. Gerichtet wird in der Schießkurve auch ohne Drehturm sehr genau. Und die "Ratte" hatte zwar Drehtürme, aber nur im Kaliber 15 cm.

[Schlonderser]

Solche Geschützter sind gewaltig.

[GordonofSeattle]

Pointless in war. But it looks like good fun

[lmandozal]

You are right. I looked into it, and the P-1500 is called "Monster" and the P-1000 is called "Ratte."

[wotanderwilde]

It was planned to mount 1 of the Dora Barrels on a Tank wich is named P1500. Weight 1500 Tons! But the Projekt was stopped by Albert Speer.

[Sampolit]

I didnt know that..any information more about it, project designs or smth ?

[wotanderwilde]

Comrade, search for "Landkreuzer P1500-Monster" in the Internet! It was planned to operate with several UBoat Diesel engines in this ship!!

[lmandozal]

P-1500 "Ratte" tank.

[wotanderwilde]

I believe that the P-1000 is named "Ratte"..

The P-1500 is called "Monster". Or am i wrong?!

[Schlonderser]

Ratte is in english Rat

[DerVampyrEngel]

This might sound crazy but you know with a proper;y modified hovercraft this guns if they are also autmated would work now, imagine a giant and fast hovercraft on land with a gun as big as that after you LOL

[shitqq]

with the recoil i believe after your first shot the hovercraft would be nailed into the ground- literealy. Also a gun that has such a low rate of fire is useless for everything exept a siege.

[lmandozal]

Thats almost what it really was for a siege weapon. What Dora/Gustav lacked in RoF, it made up in range.

[DerVampyrEngel]

not if you have a muzzle break although you would need a massive one for these guns, and if you could make it into an autocannon or build an autocannon of simliar size

[DerVampyrEngel]

And I think you would need a way of cooling it after every shot

[shitqq]

no need. The barrel is extremly thick and long so it doesn t heat up so fast. Also the rate of fire was so low that there was no problem with heat.

[DerVampyrEngel]

NO shitqq You would need to cool an autocannon of that size as I was saying and water would be needed although you would need an aawful lot of water

[Sampolit]

Maybe bad investment in the case of how many tanks or artilleries it could have produced against the closing Red Army, but at the end I do not think that the "Dora" & her twin sisters would have been investments."Dora" was a superweapon - the most powerful gun in the world & it represented the very maximum firepower the Wehrmacht could deliver to its enemies with a single shot

[avonburn]

These guns were used when the Wehrmacht was heading East, not West. Apparently, they were extremely successful against the Soviet fortifications in the Crimea, but that was about it.

An attempt was made to use them against Leningrad, but it was unsuccessful for some reason.

[gordongate]

air support, the guns required their own air defence squadron but they were commandeered for the war in europe, the russian air force developed a tactic called somthing like the circle of death, ground attack planes would cirle and dive in turn, very effective so the guns were little able to fire in safety. they had more luck using the Karl type mortars

[avonburn]

Thank you! Always glad to increase my knowledge.

[behahve1]

The secrecy of movement and the camouflage teams employed meant the gun never came under attack.

At the war's begininning, it could strike much harder and more precisely than any bomber could.

But it took up to 6 weeks to prep the land...