George Galloway talks to Andy in Rugby about the English Defence League - Talksport 16/10/2009

[kramnodd12]

George condoning Islamic violence as usual. "Get used to it" he says, in regards to being chased.. so basically, NOBODY has the right to protest against Islam without deserving violence?

[timebandit71]

dont agree with george on this one....

[kakompo]

Is "my dear" an insult in england?

[wartoma]

Galloway is my hero

[yington]

What the fuck is Galloway being racist against the EDL for?

"pasty faced .. "

What the fuck has their level of pigment got to do with that?

Where's the justification for his statement?

Can you imagine someone on his show said about black people "coal faced" - can you actually imagine the outrage!

He would be foaming at the mouth, beating his chest calling them a racist!

Oh, but Galloway does it whilst he pretends to be AGAINST racism!!

BAHAHAHAHAHA

[DaKrazyKatt]

@yington If he would have said "coal faced" within the context of your comparrison he would have to be black in order for it to make sense. It's like black people using the n word, it has no racist conigtations because the people using the word are black. Same goes here, maybe not the most clever thing to say, but not really the bs biased you believe it to be either

[yington]

@DaKrazyKatt

Why did Galloway even say "pasty faced" ?

What did the level of pigment in their skin have to do with anything?

He got something against "pasty" people or something?

He lowered himself to the ranking of morons, when using such pathetic statements in debate.

[kramnodd12]

@yington

I know, but the irony of what he said is lost on hypocrites like Galloway.

[OZMYMAN]

the leader of the edl is an irish catholic who used to be a member of of the bnp who was jailed for a year for beating up his girlfriend

[411M3D]

Lmao He read that straight of the website.

[astonpe]

harrassment, alarm or distress?

Paki isnt a racist term, it's just short for someone of pakistani origin, describing a race. Suppose calling someone from scotland a scot is racist too in your book?

Wasnt living under a rock, i was 7 years old. And i dont know to tell you the truth but you're just speculating on stuff that's totally irrelevant and has so many flaws.

[7jem331]

Where are all these mythical "Black members of the EDL"?? They are as rare as rocking horse poo. All they do is bring out that poor lad from Luton as their "Shining example of token black member" Bit like the BNP with that Sikh supporter. What black person in his/her right mind would support an organisation founded by the ex BNP?

[astonpe]

@7jem331

Go to a demo and you'll see these people for yourself. There's plenty there, the european communities came out and joined us in peterborough, they've had enough of being bullied by the muslims too.

[7jem331]

@astonpe I would rather not go on a demo full of people giving Nazi salutes, chanting BNP and screaming racist abuse at police officers thanks. I asked a simple question where are all these "Loads of black people" I hear all these EDL going on and on about. Considering the EDL is founded by an ex member of the BNP not really supprising they are few and far between.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

None of that happens. Nazi salutes, really? The muslims class us all as jews. BNP? We have sod all to do with the BNP, we hate the bnp and the bnp hate us for not being racist enough and taking their supporters who aren't racist. He's ex bnp for a reason.

There are plenty of non whites at the demo's, obviously they're in the minority but there's still plenty there. Not so much black people, but plenty of people of indian and pakistani descent. So learn the facts please.

[7jem331]

@astonpe "The Muslims class us all as Jews" Would you like to elaborate on who the "Us" Is and while you are at it would you like to eleborate on how about 800 million people have even heard of the EDL let alone have even the faintest interest in what religion they happen to follow?

"Hes ex BNP for a reason" Presumably then he actually joined the BNP for a reason. If you are a member of the Labour or Tory party it stands to reason you believe in what they say and do.

[7jem331]

@7jem331 Oh and as for the Nazi salutes. Its all over youtube. As for the racist abuse. How about in Stoke where an EDL supporter is screaming "Paki lovers" At the Police? Presumably you havent seen the WLD members giving Nazi salutes in a pub photo? Presumably you havent read the leader of the WDL writing about attacking "Darkies" in London. I am sure those "Plenty of non whites" Must be made up with that one.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

any recent photo's?

Presumably you havent heard from the lefties that the WDL is now defunct?

You got any recent problems with the edl? and what they oppose? or are you just labelling the tens of thousands on the actions of a few? Yes, you are.

I could come back with thousands more pieces of evidence supporting the EDL and showing the islamic extremists to be thuggish little scrotes.

[7jem331]

@astonpe "The Muslims class us all as Jews" Would you like to elaborate on who the "Us" Is and while you are at it would you like to eleborate on how about 800 million people have even heard of the EDL let alone have even the faintest interest in what religion they happen to follow?

"Hes ex BNP for a reason" Presumably then he actually joined the BNP for a reason.

[7jem331]

@astonpe "Plenty of people of Pakistani and Indian descent"???? They must be delighted to hear their fellow supporters chanting "BNP BNP" and screaming "Paki lovers" At the Police in Stoke. They must be made up to read the leader of the WDL refer to them as "Bombay bad boys"

Think its you who needs to "Learn the facts"

[astonpe]

@7jem331

Are you mentally retarded or something? Suppose you think ALL students want to attack the royal family and destroy london as well because of the actions of the swp.

Got proof of this happening because the bnp and EDL do NOT get along. Whats paki lovers got to do with anything anyway? Not racist or offensive even if it was said. Whereas what the muslims do when opposing is. Poppy burning, troop homecomings, etc, etc.

[7jem331]

@astonpe "The Muslims class us all as Jews" Cant wait to see how you actually support this with proof that 800 million people class some mysterious "Us" As Jews. Do you actually have verifiable proof that every Muslim on the planet has even heard of "You"????

[astonpe]

@7jem331

Us = EDL

The muslims = the mdl and the muslims that oppose the EDL.

Not on about all muslims. Can give you proof of muslims all over the world killing in the name of islam if you want though?

[7jem331]

@astonpe So you think chanting "Paki lovers" Is not racist. Enough said really. Nothing more needs to be discussed. I suggest you look up what a racially aggrivated offence is in British law.

Just another racist out the closet then, just like BNP Tommy. Was he a member when BNP supporters were blowing up gays in London perhaps?

[astonpe]

@7jem331

At the time of committing the offence, or immediately before or after doing so, the offender demonstrates hostility towards the victim based on the victim's membership (or presumed membership) of a racial group;

Or the offence is motivated (wholly or partly) by hostility towards members of a racial group based on their membership of that group.

- so, where's the offence? Pretty sure it would have been in the news if gays were getting blown up.

I'm not racist btw

[7jem331]

@astonpe Try looking up racially aggrivated section 5 or 4A Screaming "Paki lover" At someone pretty much covers it. Oh you are not a racist yet you dont consider the word "Paki" To be racist?

Presumably you were living under a rock then when the London nail bomber was blowing up gay bars in London then. You know, the one who was the BNP supporter. Wonder if Tommy was a member at the time?

[astonpe]

@7jem331

What is wrong with me supporting a group that is willing to speak out against islamic extremism and violence?

Do you live in an area where there is sever problems with muslim youths? Do you go to a university where extremists are stood outside recruiting? Do you live near schools where muslim gangs attack kids for daring to celebrate christmas? Do you live an an area where muslims are forcibly removing non-muslims? Are you not worried about the amount of homegrown terrorists?

[7jem331]

@astonpe No to all of the above and we have a government who deals with terrorism not a bunch of drunken football hooligans. Paki is a racist term according to British law, Scot on the other hand isnt though if it is used in a racially aggrivated manner it can be classed as a racially aggrivated offence.

Nice try but the facts are out there and you have just proven yourself to be just another racist supporter of the EDL.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

I havent proved myself to be racist at all love.

The facts are out there, exactly, so you have obviously seen the problems with islamic youths and the communities that thrive on terrorising non-muslims? You like ignoring the points i put to you dont you. Are these offences by muslims not racially aggravated? Are the communities that know about potential terrorists doing themselves justice by turning a blind eye to them?

thereligionofpeace(dot)com - look at that for starters

[7jem331]

@astonpe Just continue to go around and around in circles.

1. You backtracked when confronted with the fact that screaming Paki lover is a racially aggrivated offence.

2. You dont regard the word "Paki" As racist in spite of it being so in British law.

3. You regard the terrorism of the London nail bomber as irrelivent saying "Well I was only 7 at the time" In spite of his BNP links and the EDL leader being ex BNP

[astonpe]

@7jem331

I'm not going around in circles, you're points are just irrelevant.

1. I never backtracked, it's not an offence

2. It isn't racist, i've heard pakistanis call themselves pakis, are they racist towards themselves?

3. I never said it was irrelevant, just that i didnt know about it because i was 7. Thats a tenuous link. That guy who did, did it as part of the white wolves group from what ive read. You dont know tommy was bnp at the time.

[7jem331]

@astonpe So why have the EDL not informed the police about those who chant racist abuse at their marches? Why have the EDL not informed the police about their supporters who damaged police vehicles in Stoke? Why have the EDL not informed the police about their supporters who threw rocks and attacked passers by all reported by Sky News in Bradford?

Why do the EDL have such contempt for British law?

[astonpe]

@7jem331

Its like saying you're a hooligan because you supported England at the Euro championships when the riotting happened in belgium. Or that i'm a riotter because i'm a member of the student union and some members of the student union rioted in london. Pathetic link. There's also the key point of EX-bnp. EX. As in, not anymore, as in he left them. Probably only joined because it was the only party willing to do anything about the situation, you dont know anything about his reasons.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

The EDL do inform the police on those who chant racist abuse, i saw it for myself at peterborough, someone shouted something and everyone around the lass told her to shut up and put her in her place, not that half the stuff you class as 'racist' is racist anyway. Those welsh guys in the nazi salute picture, there's a reason they're not a part of the EDL anymore. They cant do much more than that because they dont have the names of the people there and there's no membership

[astonpe]

@7jem331

It's not the EDL's job to anything about it, they do far more than is required and help the police in every possible way. If you go take a look at the figures for arrests at demo's and counter demo's you'll find some facts that just prove this. London demo - 50 arrests, 2 were EDL. Bolton demo - 74 arrests, 9 were EDL.

The last 11 demos, most arrests has been 21, despite the fact there have been thousands upon thousands there. That is far less than on a typical friday night in any town

[astonpe]

@7jem331

I'll ask again as well seeing as you seem to be avoiding any of my questions. Do you live in an area where there is sever problems with muslim youths? Do you go to a university where extremists are stood outside recruiting? Do you live near schools where muslim gangs attack kids for daring to celebrate christmas? Do you live an an area where muslims are forcibly removing non-muslims? Are you not worried about the amount of homegrown terrorists?

[7jem331]

@astonpe I have already answered no to all the above as we have a government to do the job of sorting out terrorists thanks not a bunch of drunken football yobs.

Oh and yes, it is the EDL's "Job" To inform the police of racists, thugs, people who damage property, assault members of the public just as much as it is everyones job. Its called a civic duty. Not running around the streets drunk attacking shoppers on a weekend.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

they're not all drunken yobs and i'll think you'll find the majority of the public agree with the basic principles of the EDL. I know, because i've gone out there and asked people. The govt and local councils aren't doing enough, which is exactly the point of why the EDL are here. Go live in Bury Park, Luton for a week, you'll soon change your tone.

We dont attack shoppers, when was the last time that happened? You've been brainwashed by the left's lie's duck, look at the facts.

[7jem331]

@astonpe The majority of the public have never heard of you and frankly are not interested in you. A bunch of yobs running through the streets giving football chants. Reality is a harsh thing but facts are facts. Nobody cares about you. Time to grow up.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

Thats what your opinion and is contradictory completely. Havent heard of us, but dont agree with us? Good one.

Hell of a lot more people know about us now compared to last year and a hell of a lot more people are turning up to support us with less and less trouble at each one. Ask any member of the public and they agree with the EDL's stance, they're just wary of the way we're portrayed on the news outlets.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

You should have been on the train back i was on after the peterborough demo. A carriage full of people who were there christmas shopping, all just started asking me and my mate questions about the EDL, not one of them had a bad word to say about the EDL. They fear what this country is becoming and the free reign the muslims have, why? Because they live with the problem. Look on any news site in the comments section. Majority are always the same. Once the news is fair, we'll be huge.

[7jem331]

@astonpe I didnt say dont agree with you I said not interested in you. Reading clearly not a hot topic over in Peterborough. Oh the comments section on a news website. You mean like Sky with its numerous pro BNP comments pre election. Did them a lot of good didnt it?

I assume you do know fringe groups like yourself and the BNP deliberately spam these sites to give the impression that they have a larger following? Wait of course you do you are one of them!

[7jem331]

@astonpe I didnt say dont agree with you I said not interested in you. Reading clearly not a hot topic over in Peterborough. Oh the comments section on a news website. You mean like Sky with its numerous pro BNP comments pre election. Did them a lot of good didnt it?

I assume you do know fringe groups like yourself and the BNP deliberately spam these sites to give the impression that they have a larger following?

[astonpe]

@7jem331

whats reading got to do with anything?

I mean like any news website, the local pboro papers. The coventry ones that covered the nuneaton demo, daily mail, telegraph, guardian, mirror, all of them. Any of them that have comments sections.

You're coming up with a lot of excuses here and none of them are really working, just accept that the common joe public agree's with the EDL and is fearful of islam. The only thing against us atm is the news corps lie's and unfair portrayal of us

[7jem331]

@astonpe So the news lies yet apparently there are thousands of comments pro EDL???? Yep that makes sense. Presumably the head of West Midlands Police is also against you after telling you not to come back to Birmingham, those anti terrorists experts are also against you... Oh its all one big conspiricy.

If "Joe public" Agreed with anything you louts say they would vote for a party that has similar ideas (i.e. the BNP)

[astonpe]

@7jem331

what are you on about? I'm talking about the comments section that the public comment on, not actual news sites. Not hard to understand. Everyone knows the problems with WMP. You mean those anti terror experts who are coming out saying the EDL aren't the problem? The EDL were formed as a response to homegrown terrorism, not the other way round.

BNP dont have similar idea's at all, that's a pathetic thing to say, the two dont get on at all.

[7jem331]

@astonpe And the harsh reality is they didnt in huge numbers. They voted for the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems none of whom share your views so clearly "Joe public" Does not agree with you.

Sorry to break that one to you.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

None of the major political parties share our views, they never do share the views of the public. Those millions who voted for lib dems, yeah, they've really represented their voters well havent they?

Sorry to break it to you, but you're clueless. The fact you think the BNP and EDL get on is just laughable really. The BNP ban their members who are seen on EDL marches, because it shows them to be not as racist as they should be pretty much.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

One of the top bnp guys turned up to an edl meeting and got hounded out of the thing, but hey, dont let facts get in the way of you.

Reality is, i'm right and you're wrong. I dont even know what your point has been actually, you've offered little and been proved wrong on every rumour/lie you've heard from wherever you heard it. Just open your eyes and learn about the true EDL, the ones who bike from watford to central london to clean the statues after the student riots.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

and i've already told you the EDL do do that, as much as they can. They leaders are hardly going to quit their jobs to voluntarily act as detectives to find the name of one or two people that may or may not have shouted something. You haven't got a clue.

[Leftfield2k7]

@DrInterficio What in idiot you are, get a clue you brainwashed moron!! EDL/BNP are a bunch of racist Neanderthals!

[astonpe]

@Leftfield2k7

Yeah, islam, race. Good one. The only racists are the muslims, had a discussion with one lady who opposed the EDL, went to an anti EDL demo and saw how thuggish the muslims were and is no longer against the EDL. You need to grow up if you dont think there's a problem

[astonpe]

Yes George and we all have on tape, you dressed in a red pvc suit pretending to be a cat.

We also have on tape, you meeting various terrorist organisations and giving money to them.

Oh dear, george, meooow.

Anyone who disagree's with the priciples of the EDL has severe mental issues.

[7jem331]

@astonpe So you are saying the cheif of police in the midlands has "Severe mental issues" and anti terrorist experts also have "Severe mental issues"

Guess all these people must be wrong and some fake stone island wearing convicted football hooligan must be right then!

[astonpe]

@7jem331

If they disagree that there's a severe problem with radical extremists in this country then yes. Whats wrong with wanting something to be done about the rise of terrorism because of islam in this country?

[7jem331]

@astonpe Wow so you know better than a terrorist expert do you? Well step aside MI5, SAS here comes you and "Diamond geezer" Tommy.

Do us all a favour and go back to sitting in parks with your bottle of strongbow and lambert and butler.

[astonpe]

@7jem331

you on about the terror expert who said that the EDL weren't the problem?

12 arrested last week, 2 killed fighting british troops the week before, 1 blew himself up the week before. Troops coming home and speaking of fighting taliban with brummie accents. Bury Park in luton, muslims forcing anyone who's not a muslim to move out and attacking police

Do as all a favour and a get a grip, there is a clear problem of islamic extremism in this country and it has nothing to do with the EDL

[sarissa336]

I'm with you entirely Khany. The EDL are nothing more than a bunch of thick, lazy, pig-ignorant Simple Simons. Morons with a mob-mentality and the IQ of a pigeon. They should stick to whinging into their beer glasses, getting drunk and being low-life hooligans: that's all their good for and that's about the level of gifts God gave them. Many of them are jail birds with it. Useless, unemployable tossers.

[7jem331]

Rubbish they are not fighting against "Muslim extremists" They are against all Muslims. Why do they have "No more Mosques" on boards? Why do they have anti Muslim immigration placards on their marches? Why is the Welsh Defense League started by Combat 18/BNP? Why do they give Nazi salutes at EDL marches if they are so "Pro British soldiers?

[khany1388]

Pasty faced, big bellied, flat footed....and so on! George is a legend and he is so true! You are a bunch of morons who are revelling in the fact that you are getting a bit of publicity by running around talking about issues, which are frankly above your head. Stick to hooliganism you useless sods, political issues require a brain cell and a string of morality, which your organisation has in short supply!

[21lillee]

u put the name george to shame mate u fuckin scum

[qloudz]

EDL are a bunch of slack-jawed cretins. No good can come of their pithy 'organisation.'

[masaii]

@DrInterficio I Understand what your trying to say!!! nothing wrong with being an all white group theyre based in western europe!!!! but why act as if you got loads of Blacks members when you aint!!!! its false publicity which comes across a little desperate to say the least... I

[masaii]

@DrInterficio Can you please tell me why the edl promote Black & white unity?

why do the edl like to pretend that they have loads of Blacks within their ranks????

when infact at the click of a button the whole world via the world wide web can see its not the case!!!! lastly if the edl are not racist, why in a country as diverse as England can they not attract different british communities!!??? Do they even want to include people of different colours

[dstoner]

george galloway the voice of britian, Bollocks he would love to see the british army dead. Remember him om BB what a prat the Americans want to hang him. The time has come,ENGLAND FOREVER!

[kazakhseven]

The extremists you're talking about are more closer to your government and establishment then the Muslim community. The burkhas are never worn by the mainstream muslim communiyty but your friends the Gulf Arabs especially the Saudis and their followers, so why don't you protest outside the Saudi Embassy?But you're clearly against the Muslim community as there are placards on your Marches like" No more mosques" etc.

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[kazakhseven]

Even though you don't represent the normal English people, its also clear you have support from the top and the Israelis otherwise you wouldn't get so much pro-coverage in the media. Theres no doubt who's behind you guys

[kazakhseven]

Its highly unlikely there are non-white EDL members as its clearly fascist and why are they carrying Israeli flags? Is that their new sponsor against Muslims?

[Chom84]

@kazakhseven Do a search on youtube for "english defence league response'"and click on the first video on the list, I think you will be quite surprised as to what you find. I would post the link but it wont let me.

[kazakhseven]

@Chom84 After watching that video its almost certain to me that all those guys are Army people. I know because i used to train with them. The way the guy is talking and the body language of the rest says it all. The 2 black soldiers had no choice but be there. I'd say they wouldn't if they could. Haven't seen any black people on your marches.

I think this more to do with the wars that are going wrong and the Muslim community are just scapegoats.

[dan25london]

george galloway is a traitor who should be hung

[jacobhyland]

george gallowayis a cock.

[Fonyod2008]

Lionheart uk site has vids with Black EDL guys!!!

Galloway is a muslim - so it figures he's practising KITMAN!

Atlas Shrugs has done a great article on the EDL.

QUOTE- "anyone defending Britain is now shouted down as Fascist's by the Real Fascist's!!

Bang on the money there Atlas!!

[786adham88]

lol

[TheJamie43]

galloways a little stalin with his communist preaching .

[skatenotwar]

The night before Swansea UAF chased off the fascists!

[spursloyal71]

Now they didnt you prick!

[pixelshade]

Genuine classic

[tooyjfwn]

most, not most, erm. Haha. The 'edl' are nothing more than racist football hooligans

[zaazi123]

LMAO george pushes it SOOO FAR lmao

[RepublicOf32]

ha ha, great.

[toptrichs]

@RepublicOf32 up the erps...lol,,,,dont start the revolution without me