Because there are a brutality and disgraceful behavior of a postscript... Chinese in my favorite, please see. The reality of the Tibetan blood bath which won't be reported in China is mentioned. Then, good-bye.
For a long time thank you. It's too long, and, I have a mind to read, it won't be. Moreover Chinese mixes incompletely and. Is made in China the software which can't be translated neatly?
Back history would tell me the truth. I'm hoping as it'll be the race which can respect an intellectual property right for now.
It's wonderful and a Chinese has many people who can look up, too, a moral, it's also a lot as a monkey. The worst one is a Chinese government, isn't it? I want democracy to consist of socialism early. In purpose of Chinese people.
I just noticed writing in. One thousand years before? Whoever of the world hears, I laugh. Culture was taken in from China certainly before, something to stay at that in Japan.
China plagiarizes Japanese technology and is making the profit internationally at present. North Korea and Iran are invested in terrorist state in a last line. Isn't it lowest?
@abenocchi Do you Japanese just think history means nothing? Don't you know the Tang Dynasty? Don't you know the Japanese government sent thounds of people to Chang'an to steal China's technology 1000 years before? You Japanese invented the Kanji by yourselves? You Japanese invented the traditional architecture by yourselves? The only problem is that there is not the concept of intellectual property rights then.The Japanese killed 300,000 Chinese in the Nanking Massacre, now most of you deny it.
@abenocchi Just only about 10 years ago, the Japanese stole the technology of manufacturing 景泰蓝(cloisonne) and 宣纸 (Xuan Paper) from China by sending commercial espionage. And now, as you said, you Japanese is making the profit internationally at present by stealing the technology. I hope you Japanese do not act just like the filthy Korean, while they deny the history, they fabricate the history at the same time.
@abenocchi I have some Japanese friends, and I do believe most of the Japanese are friendly and they love peace. But some Japanese right wings do act horrendously. I really hope Japan will not tast the nuclear bomb the second time because a stable, peaceful and prosperous Japan is also beneficial for China's future. When the mainland China is governed by 中华民国, we are a democratic country, but you Japanese still kill we Chinese. So whether or not democratic is not point.
@abenocchi The actual point is strong or weak, not democratic or totalitarian. Although China is democratic, you Japanese will still invade my country and kill us if we are weak. Also a stable, peaceful and prosperous China is beneficial for Japan's future society, economy and development.
@abenocchi The average development level of China is still at least 20 years behind Japan, but please the Japanese people give up the deliria of invading China again, we are not the 清国奴anymore, or it will be our turn to nuke you again. One time again, a stable, peaceful and prosperous China is beneficial for Japan's people, economy, society and future and vice versa. So please do not just post the hatred-provoking words here, they are not beneficial for our both countries.
Gundam was even plagiarized in the limit after obtaining Disney, Doraemon, EVANGELION, the Shinkansen, a Japanese car and a game machine by fraud. Is a Chinese the waste which also has no pride?
Disgracefulness of the world. But even if I say a plagiarism, it's pitiful that I'm unrefined and that it's nasty.
@abenocchi Japenis copied all the Chinese civilization (characters, music, architecture and so many on) 1000 years ago, the Japenis will copy China again in the near future.
History would prove the truth. The Shinkansen is already old. Now, the time of the linear. There is also linear in China by technology from Germany, but there is a difference between the video game and the PC compared with Japanese linear.
It's different from a country only in PAKURI and thief state China.
@abenocchi you fucking jealous idiot, China high-speed train has never encountered accident since it began to operate, that is 0 accident record, plagiarize Japan?ahaha, I have never heard that the train technology with much higher speed is plagiarized from the low one, sour grapes！Japan plagiarized so many Chinese characters and cultures, who is the biggest plagiarism country?
@kenji65 It's Kawasaki Heavy Industries that SOLD the reduced version of E2-1000 to China MOR for which the train was renamed CRH2A. CRH2A was improved by MOR to become CRH2C which runs at 330KPH. CRH2C then integrated with other advanced technology to build CRH380A. There is not any type of Shinkansen train be even similar to CRH380A.
@kenji65 who cares, china paid about 1.1B USD to Japanese group, and paid 749M Euro to German group for the so called "technology transfer fee" and the very 1st prototype trains. Afterward, just learn it, copy it and improve it.
Really or not, I found that the rail for CRH bullet train are relatively straight and flat. Maybe that's the reason for CRH sprint so fast. Or maybe the high speed rail over Japan was circling mountain and ville leads to slower performance.
@hehaozhi Yes, USA is the most powerful nation on earth and pride of whole world! But the topic here is High Speed Rail, where is it in the Great USA? Does USA have one of those at least?
the high speed railway is a systematic project, including not only the train it self, but also many other systems, which need a comprehensive integration power. That's why the developed countries dont have a such line. So on this point of view, the Chinese is top the list in this field and what's more, the velocity is already up to 600kmph on experimental lin, as can be seen in live in 5 years in China. lets wait for the mordonlization of 21st century, if not futurization in China.
Each train consists of 8 cars. The first 3 sets (numbers 2001-2003) were built in Japan, the next 6 sets (2004-2009) were delivered in complete knock down form and assembled by CSR Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock. The remaining 51 sets (2010-2060) were built by Sifang through technology transfer from Japan.
The rails and the trains themselves should be implemented as a public transmission tower and mobile cells so they can service all neighbors around the rail system.
greetings 4rm India... now.. we can smell d real cheese.. the quality of high-speed railway sys.. wud get tough pratically as d Dragon/China has stepped it's feet may b after 50 yrs after itz revolution.. evolved on d Land Of Rising/Japan.. a whole hearted congrats to every Chinese for der success in high speed railway sys..
China is spending their money wisely unlike our European officials who give some freaking 50!!! billion Euro each year to Corrupt governments in Africa and elsewhere with the naive hope they will alleviate their poverty. Europe should invest in things like manned space flight instead like the Chinese. And now they even freaking plan to give €15Billion each year!!! away too poor nations around the world to fight climate change. Can they please start spending OUR money in our OWN economy.
@Seasue, dude, the western world started industrialization in 1800s, and were in full speed forward since. China started industrialization in 1950s, and have 20 year pause, and resumed again in 1980s, and then there come the embargo. What you see is more than good enough.
That is actually false. The Mitsubishi Heavy Industries supplied the last train in 2004.
It looks like the Shinkansen on the exterior but in the interior, it is completely different. The engineering is completely different. Mitsubishi is no longer cooperating with China on high speed trains.
It's a bit misleading because the entire shape was kept but the internal components are different.
At my university, we did a sample signal analysis for RF circuit in high speed train.
The Maximum speed of Japanese Shinkansen is over 400km/h.
As of October 2009, The Ministry of Railways in China has signed a new contract for 140 new 380km/h capable high speed trains with Nanche Sifang Locomotive, through a technology licensing agreement with Kawasaki Heavy Industries.
My mistake it is Kawasaki. However, like you said you should not believe the media. The 380 km/h was never delivered by Kawasaki because Kawasaki cancelled all contracted with China in 2005.
That is a misreporting. I know this very well. In the laboratory that I work for, we contracted signal detection equipment from China's high speed rail company.
The report is a mistake. In America, the lab I work cooperated with a company called Hollysys for major equipment.
I am very sure that this did not come from Kawasaki at all. There are many misreports. Kawasaki openly stated that the last sale to China was in 2004(not 2005). This train you see in the video can reach a maximum safe operating speed of 350 km/h for 900 km. This is the fastest train in service in the world.
The copyright does not belong to Kawasaki for the train you are are seeing. Kawasaki had nothing to do with the train you are looking at in the video.
Also, the train was invented in England. Please do not claim your Japanese trains are Japanese because they were invented in England. Sound logically?
I think you have too much pride in Japan. Tell me something that Japan has contributed to the world. European science? Math, economy, philosophy, medicine, politics?
I work for a laboratory in America that purchases signal equipment from China's high speed manufacturer. That's my first REAL source of information.
Second, the Kawasaki official openly stated that they are not working with China and the last time was in 2004. For here is the website that contains his actual words:
The signal equipment that I use goes into high temperature semiconductors for power plants. We try to control turbines. This technology is exactly how the Chinese control their high speed trains and how they transmit data from the electric motor to the computer. They are the only country in the world that do this.
Please read the article I gave you. It contains the official information released by Kawasaki not a news report.
We do not do data transmission! We buy their microchips; the same ones that control the electric motor and signaling. Please read Kawasaki's official statement saying that they are not working with China and the last train sold to China was in 2004.
Google HOLLYSYS
that is the Chinese company that makes the electric motor, microchips, etc for the trains and what many laboratories and power plants use in America.
It is the other way around. Hollysys supports Kawasaki in power plant technology.
Google Hollysys. I am not fooled easily. I am an applied mathematician working in this area. Americans are not stupid. We know what we buy and its capabilities.
Please do not think that I am stupid because I am American.
They are all related! Again, the trains you see are not all Shinkansen in the video.
Please read the article I gave you.
China's rail companies have exported over 6 billion USD worth of related equipment (electric motors, microchips, ...) to other countries. Please do not underestimate them.
That's a very interesting point. But can anyone answer the question that if China COPYED from Shinkansen then why it's running faster than Shinkansen?
@tenacioustaut until you find a way to make product good and cheap, nobody is going to buy your product. Nobody is willing for any reason to pay more for less.
My laboratory (US) purchased over 90 million US dollars from them already. I think Kawasaki is a bit late. We use their microchips to control how power plants and other turbines control gasoline flow.
@tenacioustaut hello shabi, you win, you are right. I can't agree with you shabi any more that japan invented shikanxian and german the maglev. HOWEVER we are talking about the best NOW belongs to CHINA. you son of a bitch.
The October 2009 is false and China did not sign any contracted with Kawasaki since 2005. I know this very well because I work for a government-company lab in America. The entire lab purchased almost $90 million dollars worth of signaling equipment from China's high speed rail. It was put to use for high temperature semiconductors in power plants.
一些白痴连党内斗争都拿出来当民主，真不知道脑子是怎么长的
wxsty 7 months ago
Hong Kong will eventually build a high speed rail link to Guangzhou!
Phead128 8 months ago
哎 都不要爭論了 反正總是有一群人 看到中國好，看到中國變強就會百般妒忌，中國人造出自己的高鐵他們就說是copy，中國人造出自己的隱形戰鬥機他們也要說copy，中國品牌的汽車他們說是shit，你跟他們解釋有個屁用啊，隨他們怎麼說啦，中國又不是靠這些嘴炮就能打敗的。以前中國人經濟不發達他們就說中國人窮，現在經濟好了又開始說中國的民主，這些人的用心 大家你知我知 沒必要 和他們爭論 ，讓他們在中國的進步中 消亡吧
MrMarcocaofanhua 10 months ago 9
對少部分香港的，臺灣的，新加坡的，甚至中國大陸的，以及各地看的懂中文的小白癡們說，你們太不了解中國了，你們以爲中國真的是一黨執政嗎？先了解一下現在中國的胡溫政權，然後再查查什麽事上海幫，也就是上任政權，什麽叫太子黨，也就是即將上臺的政權，然後再發表討論中國是不是一黨執政吧。現在共產黨内也是三足甚至多足鼎立，這是好現象，只有鬥爭才能有進步，有搞經濟的，有搞政治的，有軟的，有硬的，輪流坐莊。我很詫異胡溫竟然能把日本已經基本擺平了，而且我敢說，臺灣的孩子們，等太子黨上臺，就有你們的“好日子"過了。
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Mreleezy 10 months ago
想対中国人問。在中国的監獄有由中国共産党的内臟器官狩獵,不過，中国人是不是掌握着？
如果不知道YouTube檢索就行了。新唐人新聞也有。
abenocchi 1 year ago
在中国隠瞞全部的真實捏造着。請這个YouTube(新唐人)試着檢索。明白中国的真實的應該。新唐人是在美国適合中国人的新聞。
abenocchi 1 year ago
@abenocchi 新唐人是和大纪元（别称大妓院）一样的货，当海外中国人是傻帽？
wanly596 8 months ago
estan a toda madre estos trenes de alta velocidad ojala hubiera una de tlahuac al zocalo! jejeje
a ver si a ebrad se le ocurre...
julioparedes22 1 year ago
隨著中共的高鐵，J-20（殲二十）隱形戰機，火箭載人航天，expo，奧運會等等種種的成就公佈出來...原本一直以經濟，”高素質“等引以為自豪，甚至用以鄙視大陸人以突顯自己高人一等的那一小部份成天窩在家裡不務正業的光會嘴炮並且只會在網上給大陸人本來印象還不錯的台灣朋友丟臉的”台灣人“。這群不務正業的死宅男就會開始大噴酸水...反正只要和大陸扯上關係的都不是好東西.....此之謂坐井觀天也！！！ 真是受不了了，前幾年還能拿經濟說說話，還算有點底氣...現在跟大陸論民主了！我告訴你，伊拉克也很民主，有公投...你們可以不妨多多效仿！ 就算我看中共萬般不爽，但是至少在國民底氣上...那是百分百的爆棚了，哪像你們....只會吐酸水啊.....正所謂吃不到的普通事酸的，屌不到的屄是臭的.....哈哈哈（其實東莞也有不少台灣妹淘金，就別說大陸妹啥了，半斤八兩，不可量化）
zhantonio 1 year ago
@zhantonio 共產黨不民主是出了名的，但是共產黨也有做對了的事，比如青藏鐵路。。。
159357123100 1 year ago
Because there are a brutality and disgraceful behavior of a postscript... Chinese in my favorite, please see. The reality of the Tibetan blood bath which won't be reported in China is mentioned. Then, good-bye.
abenocchi 1 year ago
@Junkiang
For a long time thank you. It's too long, and, I have a mind to read, it won't be. Moreover Chinese mixes incompletely and. Is made in China the software which can't be translated neatly?
Back history would tell me the truth. I'm hoping as it'll be the race which can respect an intellectual property right for now.
It's tired to keep occupied, so I say good-bye.
abenocchi 1 year ago
@Junkiang
It's wonderful and a Chinese has many people who can look up, too, a moral, it's also a lot as a monkey. The worst one is a Chinese government, isn't it? I want democracy to consist of socialism early. In purpose of Chinese people.
abenocchi 1 year ago
@Junkiang
I just noticed writing in. One thousand years before? Whoever of the world hears, I laugh. Culture was taken in from China certainly before, something to stay at that in Japan.
China plagiarizes Japanese technology and is making the profit internationally at present. North Korea and Iran are invested in terrorist state in a last line. Isn't it lowest?
abenocchi 1 year ago
@abenocchi Do you Japanese just think history means nothing? Don't you know the Tang Dynasty? Don't you know the Japanese government sent thounds of people to Chang'an to steal China's technology 1000 years before? You Japanese invented the Kanji by yourselves? You Japanese invented the traditional architecture by yourselves? The only problem is that there is not the concept of intellectual property rights then.The Japanese killed 300,000 Chinese in the Nanking Massacre, now most of you deny it.
Junkiang 1 year ago
@abenocchi Just only about 10 years ago, the Japanese stole the technology of manufacturing 景泰蓝(cloisonne) and 宣纸 (Xuan Paper) from China by sending commercial espionage. And now, as you said, you Japanese is making the profit internationally at present by stealing the technology. I hope you Japanese do not act just like the filthy Korean, while they deny the history, they fabricate the history at the same time.
Junkiang 1 year ago
@abenocchi I have some Japanese friends, and I do believe most of the Japanese are friendly and they love peace. But some Japanese right wings do act horrendously. I really hope Japan will not tast the nuclear bomb the second time because a stable, peaceful and prosperous Japan is also beneficial for China's future. When the mainland China is governed by 中华民国, we are a democratic country, but you Japanese still kill we Chinese. So whether or not democratic is not point.
Junkiang 1 year ago
@abenocchi The actual point is strong or weak, not democratic or totalitarian. Although China is democratic, you Japanese will still invade my country and kill us if we are weak. Also a stable, peaceful and prosperous China is beneficial for Japan's future society, economy and development.
Junkiang 1 year ago
@abenocchi The average development level of China is still at least 20 years behind Japan, but please the Japanese people give up the deliria of invading China again, we are not the 清国奴anymore, or it will be our turn to nuke you again. One time again, a stable, peaceful and prosperous China is beneficial for Japan's people, economy, society and future and vice versa. So please do not just post the hatred-provoking words here, they are not beneficial for our both countries.
Junkiang 1 year ago
事故起こしても、日本の責にしないでね。
twin6otter 1 year ago
Gundam was even plagiarized in the limit after obtaining Disney, Doraemon, EVANGELION, the Shinkansen, a Japanese car and a game machine by fraud. Is a Chinese the waste which also has no pride?
Disgracefulness of the world. But even if I say a plagiarism, it's pitiful that I'm unrefined and that it's nasty.
abenocchi 1 year ago
@abenocchi Japenis copied all the Chinese civilization (characters, music, architecture and so many on) 1000 years ago, the Japenis will copy China again in the near future.
Junkiang 1 year ago 5
PAKURI=Plagiarism
abenocchi 1 year ago
History would prove the truth. The Shinkansen is already old. Now, the time of the linear. There is also linear in China by technology from Germany, but there is a difference between the video game and the PC compared with Japanese linear.
It's different from a country only in PAKURI and thief state China.
abenocchi 1 year ago
Japan is extremely jealous of China since these days! Japan is always lying that all those things are made in Japan. how tedious is that!
Japan? is the country of USA made by Japan?
fuyanfu27118177 1 year ago
中國不是沒有自己的高鐵技術，那車叫中華之星，
只是中國的技術實在不行，每次走完都要大修的，
而且研究了十多年都無法解決這問題。
至於等不等得起，這只不是中共往自已臉上貼金和斂財的藉口罷了，見慣不怪，
卻丟盡中國人的臉子。
而事實上，這世界很多國家都沒有高鐵的，卻阻不了它們成為區域、甚至是世界強國，包括美國。
和諧號不是中國技術，全世界都知道、早期的車廂全都是日法德賣回來的，
只有中共命令不斷地在新聞上說，這是完全我們自行研制的，對中國人進行深層洗腦罷了。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam 有漾也还搞笑， 目前鐵道部共有142列CRH2，其中只有两列是日本原装进口，编號是001A和042A，而根据官方资料，咧两列是鐵道部的公务車，意思是专門是领导人坐的。
wilsonprc 1 year ago
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam 继续编，活在幻想中是不是很爽啊？~~~
SuperThefearless 1 year ago
@SuperThefearless
哈哈，你在說你自己吧？
人人都知是外國技術買給中國的，
你自己無法接受現實、又無實証反駁、拗不過人、就想硬說人家瞎編？
你是腦殘五毛、網絡黑社會就認了他吧，
我再提提你，
你記得報給上級聽，下次下來香港和台灣，要把圖書館講CRH的書統統偷出來燒掉，
呀！還要燒了香港香台灣的報館，不要燒錯大公報和文匯報啦！
兩間免費電視台就不用燒了，一間擺明居馬是太子黨台、另外上面的早已被揶揄為CCTV-B。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@SuperThefearless
順帶一提，川崎重工正在攪中國高鐵涉侵權的指控，
請自以為是的你解釋一下。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam
你绿的恐怖哦 只有陈大贪官是你的偶像吧。
日本的技术就百分百自己发明的吗？ 说侵权？ 跑的都没有中国的快这是侵权哦？ 现在我们不要他的自己发展就说侵权？
zaiyiqi66 1 year ago
@zaiyiqi66
看來你對CRH根本一知半解，斷章取義，
CRH用的是日本法國和德國的技術，
只是有人一直想極力否認(或引導人聯想)CRH的技術是買回來的，
而且自稱是完全自行研制的技術，
現在想裝客觀？太遲了！
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam 你不要这么傻了，买的系250KM/H的技术，其它就系自己搞的。你以为日本同德国这么傻啊，很多核心技术给钱也不输出给你。说洗脑你也不是好得了多少，你意识里中国做什么都是否定的，不知道你是不是被洗脑了。
yvcyy 1 year ago
@yvcyy
到了你做了和諧號的工程師再和我說都未遲。
另你可用"CRH 鎖 300km/h"的字眼，
到Yahoo!或Google找相關資料的。
再有興趣的話，可以再找"VVVF"的資料，
中國第一台快於300km/h的高鐵，就是解了日本的"限速鎖"，
而且這種VVVF深職院很多，不是甚麼被封鎖的技術，是日本松下的。
其實，按很多年以前的美國法律，快於300mhz的CPU都不能出口的。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam CRH根本不存在侵权，
技术本来就是引进再创新的过程，引进基本技术也支付了专利费，
再说CRH已经申请了近千项国际专利，拥有自主知识产权保护的，
如果日本有理的话完全可以上诉，丰田还告过现代抄袭商标版权呢，
日本如果不是仅仅因为羡慕嫉妒恨，也完全可以告中国啊，
身正不怕影子斜，真钢不怕酸。
cavalierJ2064 1 year ago
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam
也没有媒体说是自行研制的 你好好看过没有 央视的节目都说了是引进技术的而且还有法国和加拿大的技术 都说的很清楚了 只有你们这些人在不停的诋毁 一叶障目 怎么我们付了钱引进了技术不行啊？白纸黑字合同都有的 现在说我们剽窃的人才用心险恶吧？ 赚了钱还要泼脏水 再说哪个国家不是支持自己的本国产业优先发展 怎么我们发展起来不用日本德国他们的技术了 眼红了啊？ 有本事你们也引进在开发啊？
zaiyiqi66 1 year ago
@zaiyiqi66
我不要求你找香港TVB、大公、文匯的新聞了，
你自己打 "CRH 完全自行研制" 、"完全自主技術"搜搜看，
數數有多少個結果才再談吧，況且都不止CRH才這樣。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam
怎么跟我来谈网络新闻了哦？ 你们不是都批评CCTV吗？ 现在人家都说清楚了 你又让我看网络？ 总能扯出来一些。你不用这么着急帮日本人和欧洲人吧？ 他们放个屁你也说香啊？拿着鸡毛当令箭 切。。。
zaiyiqi66 1 year ago
@zaiyiqi66
早期的CCTV新聞有講，你自己懶不肯找，還要說到言之鑿鑿我都算了，
香港的TVB(就是人稱CCTVB的台)多次強調這是中國完全自行研製的，連親共媒體都這樣講，
你又硬說沒有講過，
好了，我叫你自己用搜尋器搜搜看，你又說我答非所問？
不就是有人說中國沒有講過是完全自行研制的嗎？
為何不面對這問題？
難道你以為不相信官講的，就一定是反華媚外？
這裡不光是大陸生活圈子，做人請講邏輯。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam
又说早期了 你能耐啊 找出来啊 早期 都你在说了 什么香港TVB啦 那是你们香港记者没品 香港记者臭名昭著 狗仔也来评时事新闻？ 又扯什么生活圈了 做人也来了 你还没资格教别人怎么做人吧？ 就事论事吧 净瞎扯
zaiyiqi66 1 year ago
@zaiyiqi66
現在是誰置大量事實於不顧、反而說在瞎扯？
如果你只懂不斷複印世上只有CCTV和中國傳媒是可信，全世界都要害死中國這論點的話，
就煩請你不要到外國的網站了，是誰批准你上外國網站的？
你上次想用分身出簡體字自己支持自己，又忘了轉帳戶，不要以為我看不出來。
TaiManLam 1 year ago
@TaiManLam
YOUTUBE 是你家开的啊 你没这本事吧 有本事你封我的账户啊 现在又不跟我们讲言论自由了 要耍野蛮了是吧 忍不住要暴露你们掩盖在民主下的野蛮狰狞的面目了吧？ 我发言还要你批准啊？ 你算那根葱啊？ 我也没说只有CCTV可信 又给我乱扣帽子 信不信在个人判断 那你有为什么一定相信你在媒体上看到听到的呢 你要相信日本媒体那是你的自由 我相信我的 但也不要谩骂 污蔑。 有证据就拿出来晒晒嘛 有什么见不得光的？ 又不是陈水扁日本账户 见不得人。
zaiyiqi66 1 year ago
@zaiyiqi66
1. 言論自由？到底是誰授權你講的？原本言論自由是與生俱來的，但觀乎閣下多日來的言論嘛…你都不問問、不看看、一眾看倌們如何講你吧？
2. 民主下野蠻猙獰？我們又如何野蠻猙獰？
3. 我們又如何亂扣帽子呢？
4. 你真的以為我們多數人只看"個別的"媒體，自已不會反思的嗎？
5. 分身方面，還好意思講証據？用不用引用香港高登討論區、發現某人玩分身的貼給你看呢？
TaiManLam 1 year ago
只有中国人倣制(￣∀￣)
真正的独自開發之類永久无理(*´∀`)
絶対∩^ω^∩
与車一様安全性0。被世界星0評价作出(≧∀≦)
由于鴉片的后遺症世界常識完全不通用(｡･∀･｡)ﾉ
盗賊国家中華人民共和国万歳ヽ(´∀｀)ノ
abenocchi 1 year ago
@abenocchi 好可怜的美国占领区的日本贱民！脑子是残废的！
TWpig 1 year ago
中国人パクリばかり(￣∀￣)
真の独自開発なんて永久に無理(*´∀`)
絶対に∩^ω^∩
車と同じで安全性０。世界から星０の評価が下される(≧∀≦)
アヘンの後遺症で世界常識全く通用しない(｡･∀･｡)ﾉ
盗賊国家中華人民共和国万歳ヽ(´∀｀)ノ
abenocchi 1 year ago
@abenocchi you fucking jealous idiot, China high-speed train has never encountered accident since it began to operate, that is 0 accident record, plagiarize Japan?ahaha, I have never heard that the train technology with much higher speed is plagiarized from the low one, sour grapes！Japan plagiarized so many Chinese characters and cultures, who is the biggest plagiarism country?
cavalierJ2064 1 year ago
worms republic of china!
kenji65 1 year ago
Thieves country. These are Japanese and Germanr technology, not Chinese! Funcking chinese will cause accidents due to poor capability and mentality.
kenji65 1 year ago
@kenji65 It's Kawasaki Heavy Industries that SOLD the reduced version of E2-1000 to China MOR for which the train was renamed CRH2A. CRH2A was improved by MOR to become CRH2C which runs at 330KPH. CRH2C then integrated with other advanced technology to build CRH380A. There is not any type of Shinkansen train be even similar to CRH380A.
HXD3 1 year ago
@kenji65 japs and germany can't get the speed of 416km/h asshole go back home and fuck yourself fucker
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
@kenji65 who cares, china paid about 1.1B USD to Japanese group, and paid 749M Euro to German group for the so called "technology transfer fee" and the very 1st prototype trains. Afterward, just learn it, copy it and improve it.
wilsonprc 1 year ago
Really or not, I found that the rail for CRH bullet train are relatively straight and flat. Maybe that's the reason for CRH sprint so fast. Or maybe the high speed rail over Japan was circling mountain and ville leads to slower performance.
Danielyeoh5885 1 year ago
this is old type shinkansen type e2 . shinkansen typr e2 will soon retire in japan (type e5 / e6 / n700 is new type)
junkun1234 1 year ago
this is old type shinkansen type e2
shinkansen typr e2 will soon retire in japan
(type e5 / e6 is new type)
junkun1234 1 year ago
新幹線E2はまもなく引退
This is old shinkansen type E2
Shinkansen type E2 will soon retire
junkun1234 1 year ago
German, Russian and Spian versions are much better!
MeznarElliasson 1 year ago
我觉得大家不要争辩中国自主问题，一定是中国掌握了高铁技术，要不中共不会这么大正章的宣传还邀请各国领导正要参观，如果是骗人的也不可能这么公开宣传的。现在中共是要争取研发500公里的高速铁路。
woshitianshihahahaha 1 year ago
japan germany will copy from china,next
amancalledCHOK 1 year ago
@loveusher it will be
hehaozhi 1 year ago
Too bad the fat, lazy, corn-fed Americans can't develop anything like this.
y2knoproblem 1 year ago
@y2knoproblem America is still the most powerful nation on earth so far.....
China has no hope to surpass USA within several decades
hehaozhi 1 year ago
@hehaozhi, having daylight dreaming very often?
robertchutney 1 year ago
@hehaozhi Yes, USA is the most powerful nation on earth and pride of whole world! But the topic here is High Speed Rail, where is it in the Great USA? Does USA have one of those at least?
liwei51 1 year ago
watch?v=eHgQXGUf2m0
you get sued if you do this in the US lol
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
idiot, what are u talking about?
shinkansen?
but this is NOT.
clear?
forget about your silly shinkansen things.
AADRIANO1 1 year ago
@AADRIANO1
Idiot is YOU LOL
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
what's wrong, bitch!
AADRIANO1 1 year ago
收不到信号，是因为时速超过300公里，通信就会变困难，这是电信部门的技术课题，现在正在解决！！！！！
TWpig 1 year ago
the high speed railway is a systematic project, including not only the train it self, but also many other systems, which need a comprehensive integration power. That's why the developed countries dont have a such line. So on this point of view, the Chinese is top the list in this field and what's more, the velocity is already up to 600kmph on experimental lin, as can be seen in live in 5 years in China. lets wait for the mordonlization of 21st century, if not futurization in China.
AADRIANO1 1 year ago
受你妈了逼个早受益啊， 你给钱香港就建设，还听你们的意见， 我们意见就是不建高铁， 中共官员就是装比，去你妈了个逼得， 中国官员都是狗屎逼，去死吧
woshitianshihahahaha 1 year ago
@woshitianshihahahaha 你说不建，就不建？你什么狗东西，国家战略什么时候轮得到你插嘴了，我操！！！
TWpig 1 year ago
@woshitianshihahahaha 注意你的素质
hehaozhi 1 year ago
How long will there be the human being who knows it when this Chinese rapid transit railway is a thing made by Japanese technology as expected?
rei00ify 1 year ago
嘩！ 好貴喎。
packard2005 1 year ago
@loveusher, by 2020, there will be a total of 27,000 km of these lines. It will be the biggest in the world.
jimmyjamesWang 1 year ago
I will be super super happy when I can the bullet trains finally connect into Hong Kong via Wuhan.
beastie20 1 year ago
@beastie20 by then the tracks will have been extended to Beijing hopefully
sasalove2a1 1 year ago
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antibunker 1 year ago
i can understand the text but is she speaking in wuhan dialect?
timmeh12349 2 years ago
thats guangzhou dialect
sasalove2a1 1 year ago
@sasalove2a1 it's cantonese
kimononvidia 1 year ago
it's already running? great news!
yukiospinosa 2 years ago
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they think theyre the best ..............
they pay theirs hard- workers 5 dollars by day
where the place to celebrate when they are FULLY EXPLOITED IN THE NAMES OF COMMUNISM whit low security rate ??????????????????
patmix 2 years ago
新年好!~ 我不是中國人可是真喜歡中國和台灣的文化和音樂。。。我 唱"月亮代表我的心。 看一下吧!~ just click on my profile name to get there...謝謝!
AoDaiLi689 2 years ago
Each train consists of 8 cars. The first 3 sets (numbers 2001-2003) were built in Japan, the next 6 sets (2004-2009) were delivered in complete knock down form and assembled by CSR Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock. The remaining 51 sets (2010-2060) were built by Sifang through technology transfer from Japan.
tenacioustaut 2 years ago
@tenacioustaut: CRH2 are based on Japan tech. both CRH2 & CRH3 (German) are running on this line.
cliu8421 1 year ago
@cliu8421
Siemens Velaro
as long as the width of the rail is the same
both can run on the same rail
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
比飞机和大巴环保很多，碳排放比飞机和巴低很多倍，而且随时能改用清洁能源。世界上的石油有限，产量随时可能到顶限。交通系统尽快21世纪化是燃眉之急。
tantpwei 2 years ago 2
The rails and the trains themselves should be implemented as a public transmission tower and mobile cells so they can service all neighbors around the rail system.
beancube2010 2 years ago
A mixture of German, Japanese, Canadian, and Chinese technology. It is built in China.
Welcome to the 21st Century! All major techs have ingredients from all over the world.
juliusge 2 years ago 4
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和谐号 was made in Japan by Kawasaki Heavy Industry and shipped to China.
tenacioustaut 2 years ago
greetings 4rm India... now.. we can smell d real cheese.. the quality of high-speed railway sys.. wud get tough pratically as d Dragon/China has stepped it's feet may b after 50 yrs after itz revolution.. evolved on d Land Of Rising/Japan.. a whole hearted congrats to every Chinese for der success in high speed railway sys..
raghavpradeep 2 years ago 2
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oh my god what an ugly language, spanish is by far the best sounding language even though i can barely speak any
dt24 2 years ago
China is spending their money wisely unlike our European officials who give some freaking 50!!! billion Euro each year to Corrupt governments in Africa and elsewhere with the naive hope they will alleviate their poverty. Europe should invest in things like manned space flight instead like the Chinese. And now they even freaking plan to give €15Billion each year!!! away too poor nations around the world to fight climate change. Can they please start spending OUR money in our OWN economy.
EUROSUN1 2 years ago
hey thats racist you nigger fuck !
LOW1711 2 years ago
高鐵可能是另一個雷曼投資... 但是可能是一個很好的投資.. 要看以後的發展... 香港的地鐵也是一個好投資, 好像一個地產投資...
bilibara 2 years ago
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DT5236 2 years ago
你收皮先？
ChiefAdministrator 2 years ago
Proud of China.
Pride of China.
ChiefAdministrator 2 years ago 5
日本のＪＲ東に本Ｅ２系新幹線を基本にした車体だけど、結構外装も内装も変更されているんですね、窓が大きくなってる。おそらくガラスで重量が重くなって使用電力は大きくなるのだろうが、新しい路線で線形がよいからあまり問題ないのだろう
dana3 2 years ago
Don't worry about that.
ChiefAdministrator 2 years ago
@dana3
这个车是日本技术不假。希望中国能迎头赶上。
不过路桥技术中国世界领先，这是无疑的
Seasue 2 years ago
我有一个问题。按照官方的说法，高铁技术我们自己都已消化、吸收并能够创新，为什么还要一直保留日本或德国原型的外观。外观是可以利用风洞技术不断改进的，风阻是可以随着设计不断减小的，日本或德国原型的外观肯定还有改进的余地。还是所谓拥有自主知识产权的列车的生产还需要川崎等原厂的许可证？如果是这样，那就不是什么自主知识产权了。
Junkiang 2 years ago
中国确实消化了人家现有的技术。并且目前也是世界领先。但是一个问题！技术在发展，我们消化了人家的技术，我们有在这个基础上发展吗？20年后，欧洲日本又出来新技术了，那个时候，我们的技术也发展了？还是我们20年后继续靠购买来维持我们的世界先进？我很担心这一点。
Seasue 2 years ago 2
例子：80年代上海大众造车，不说世界先进，但也仅仅落后世界主流10年。结果20年后呢？落后世界主流30年。桑塔那那个破车我们上海大众居然造了30年，世界奇迹！
没有科技持续创新，这才是我们最害怕的！
中国人肯定没有问题，欧美很多高科技机构有众多华人，可为什么一回到中国，就不行了呢？我们的体制需要太多的反思！
Seasue 2 years ago 6
@Seasue, dude, the western world started industrialization in 1800s, and were in full speed forward since. China started industrialization in 1950s, and have 20 year pause, and resumed again in 1980s, and then there come the embargo. What you see is more than good enough.
jimmyjamesWang 1 year ago
外观已经进行更改了。虽然大体上看起来很像，但是车体的尺寸都不一样，并且已经做了很多改进能适应当地的隧道和更高的速度。原头型直接拿来是根本不能用的。
外观如果要大改的话，是需要多耗费很多资金的。不要小瞧了外观，外观的研发费用占整个研发费用的比例是相当可观的。大型风洞一得吹好几年，几亿几亿的往里投。
spl322 2 years ago
我们吸收就是我们可以自己造了。但是如果要改进并使改进版成熟的话拿还需要几年的时间来不断验证试验等等，关键是，我们等得起吗？现在马上就要建好的几千公里高速铁路等得起吗？中国春运人群等得起吗？中国经济等得起吗？
zhouyangnju 2 years ago 4
中国的骄傲Proud of "Zhongguo"
sabahnameweepapa 2 years ago 7
@sabahnameweepapa
This is made in Japan.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
That is actually false. The Mitsubishi Heavy Industries supplied the last train in 2004.
It looks like the Shinkansen on the exterior but in the interior, it is completely different. The engineering is completely different. Mitsubishi is no longer cooperating with China on high speed trains.
It's a bit misleading because the entire shape was kept but the internal components are different.
At my university, we did a sample signal analysis for RF circuit in high speed train.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Dont be fooled by the media
It is not Mitsubishi, but Kawasaki.
The motor is Kawasaki.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
The Maximum speed of Japanese Shinkansen is over 400km/h.
As of October 2009, The Ministry of Railways in China has signed a new contract for 140 new 380km/h capable high speed trains with Nanche Sifang Locomotive, through a technology licensing agreement with Kawasaki Heavy Industries.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
My mistake it is Kawasaki. However, like you said you should not believe the media. The 380 km/h was never delivered by Kawasaki because Kawasaki cancelled all contracted with China in 2005.
That is a misreporting. I know this very well. In the laboratory that I work for, we contracted signal detection equipment from China's high speed rail company.
The report is a mistake. In America, the lab I work cooperated with a company called Hollysys for major equipment.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
Here is Kawasaki's official report about China.
thisisthewebsitewww.ft.com/cms/s/0/60da2222-8ab5-11df-8e17-00144feab49a.html
I actually checked. Kawasaki does even not have a 380 km/h train for herself!
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
There is a difference between you can run at 400km/ and you DO run it at 400km/h
It is like driving Porshe at 100km/h although it can run at 350km/h
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
443.0km/h Class 955 (300X) test train Tōkaidō Shinkansen 26 July 1996
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
I am very sure that this did not come from Kawasaki at all. There are many misreports. Kawasaki openly stated that the last sale to China was in 2004(not 2005). This train you see in the video can reach a maximum safe operating speed of 350 km/h for 900 km. This is the fastest train in service in the world.
It was a huge financial loss for Kawasaki.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Japan had a 350km/h train back in 1992, which is about 20 years ago.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
the copy right belongs to Kawasaki.
You need to admit it
make something that nobody else ever invented in the world
then you can claim that its made in CHina
the Shanghai Maglev is German
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
The copyright does not belong to Kawasaki for the train you are are seeing. Kawasaki had nothing to do with the train you are looking at in the video.
Also, the train was invented in England. Please do not claim your Japanese trains are Japanese because they were invented in England. Sound logically?
I think you have too much pride in Japan. Tell me something that Japan has contributed to the world. European science? Math, economy, philosophy, medicine, politics?
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Where do you get all the information?
Now I am talking about Shinkansen.
I m not talking about other things now.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
I work for a laboratory in America that purchases signal equipment from China's high speed manufacturer. That's my first REAL source of information.
Second, the Kawasaki official openly stated that they are not working with China and the last time was in 2004. For here is the website that contains his actual words:
WEBSITEwww.ft.com/cms/s/0/60da2222-8ab5-11df-8e17-00144feab49a.html
Third, China spent over 150 billion USD. I don't see Kawasaki's value rising.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Signal equipment? oh Dude, That is not the core of the Shinkansen,
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
The signal equipment that I use goes into high temperature semiconductors for power plants. We try to control turbines. This technology is exactly how the Chinese control their high speed trains and how they transmit data from the electric motor to the computer. They are the only country in the world that do this.
Please read the article I gave you. It contains the official information released by Kawasaki not a news report.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Data transmission is not the core, sorry Dude.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
We do not do data transmission! We buy their microchips; the same ones that control the electric motor and signaling. Please read Kawasaki's official statement saying that they are not working with China and the last train sold to China was in 2004.
Google HOLLYSYS
that is the Chinese company that makes the electric motor, microchips, etc for the trains and what many laboratories and power plants use in America.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
The Chinese company are supported by Kawasaki
Dont be fooled so easily
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
It is the other way around. Hollysys supports Kawasaki in power plant technology.
Google Hollysys. I am not fooled easily. I am an applied mathematician working in this area. Americans are not stupid. We know what we buy and its capabilities.
Please do not think that I am stupid because I am American.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
I am not talking about power plant technology here.
I am talking about Shinkansen techs
oh Dude.
dont bring up other stuff
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
They are all related! Again, the trains you see are not all Shinkansen in the video.
Please read the article I gave you.
China's rail companies have exported over 6 billion USD worth of related equipment (electric motors, microchips, ...) to other countries. Please do not underestimate them.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Come on, I m talking about Shinkansen.
Power plants have nothing to do with Shinkansen.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
It is like stealing Russian weapons and selling them to other countries.
Ask Russians on this.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
The buttom line is that China cannot claim that they INVENTED the Shinkansen although they do.
What they did was to put some spin on it.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Germany and France are mad about the stealing thing, too.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Its a shame that you havent heard that they are afraid of being sued by JR or kawasaki if they buy Shinkansen from China.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut Well said, I have very interested to see the Japanese sues the Americans over buying HSR from China. LOL
sasalove2a1 1 year ago
@sasalove2a1
Chinese Shinkansen is much CHEAPER which is the only reason.
and will be sued by Kawasaki and JR
watch?v=eHgQXGUf2m0
Be careful, if you do this in the US, you get sued LOL
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@sasalove2a1
watch?v=eHgQXGUf2m0
If you do this in the US, you get sued. be careful hahaha
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
That's a very interesting point. But can anyone answer the question that if China COPYED from Shinkansen then why it's running faster than Shinkansen?
lurenyi2008 1 year ago
@lurenyi2008
you are rt. china copies, they always do.
who cares?
the point is we are faster, any question?
AADRIANO1 1 year ago
@AADRIANO1 ok if China copies japan germany,why China's high speed train is the world's fastest train?Faster than japan and germany
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
@MrMarcocaofanhua
shabi, china copied, there is no shame to say that?
after copy, china improved, that's it.
AADRIANO1 1 year ago
@AADRIANO1 yes i mean China improve it,what's u r point?i mean China did a good job on high speed train ,shabi
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut until you find a way to make product good and cheap, nobody is going to buy your product. Nobody is willing for any reason to pay more for less.
sdapr2610 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
How much do you get paid by the site?
you need to SIGN UP to read the article
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
The company in China who makes Shinkansens are supported by Kawasaki.
150billon USD on copying Shinkansen and building railways.
150billon is not that expensive if you want to put railways all over China
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
The buttom line is that since all the media is controlled by the government in your country, you cannot know the truth.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
terms in science in China are made in Japan.
原子、量子、all made in Japan.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Kawasaki heavy industory invented the shinkansen is the buttom line.
Whether China bought it or not is another issue.
It is like claiming that those Chinese weapons are made in China although they are from Russia.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
That is true that Kawasaki invented the Shinkansen.
The video on this page is NOT the Shinkansen. It has the same exterior but completely different interior design. Please read the article.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
Tell me that when you make the interior.
Dont be fooled by the media so naiively.
You will see if China wins the contract. China will be sued by Kawasaki and JR
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
My laboratory (US) purchased over 90 million US dollars from them already. I think Kawasaki is a bit late. We use their microchips to control how power plants and other turbines control gasoline flow.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@MrHilbertSpace
it is like saying that the reason why Porsh can run at 350km/h is data transmission, which doesnt make any sense.
tell me that when you became an enginner of motors
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut hello shabi, you win, you are right. I can't agree with you shabi any more that japan invented shikanxian and german the maglev. HOWEVER we are talking about the best NOW belongs to CHINA. you son of a bitch.
AADRIANO1 8 months ago
@MrHilbertSpace
human rights are more respected in Japan.
Which is why Japanese Shinkansen do not run at 400km/h.
tenacioustaut 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
The Japanese Shinkansen do not run at 400 km/h because Japan does not have the technology to safely run them at 400 km/h.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
@tenacioustaut
@tenacioustaut
The October 2009 is false and China did not sign any contracted with Kawasaki since 2005. I know this very well because I work for a government-company lab in America. The entire lab purchased almost $90 million dollars worth of signaling equipment from China's high speed rail. It was put to use for high temperature semiconductors in power plants.
MrHilbertSpace 1 year ago
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nganhp 2 years ago
大哥，你得看清建設成本。内地的原材料價格、工人工資、管理成本等都是比香港低很多的。不過香港特區政府確實應該做好成本公開的工作。港深廣高鐵香港段的預算不是立法院已經通過了嗎？
Junkiang 2 years ago 3
香港和内地造价上差不了多少。差距主要在土地上。香港的土地贵，所以造成了二十多公里的一小段造价上百亿。大约8成是土地征用的費用。
leemz2002 2 years ago