Hi askegg, I just wondered 2 things. Having read the Bible, at 5:16 you ask why Christ had to die. I thought he eternally existed (if one accepts the words of John) and so couldn't be killed no more than one could kill a ghost or an emotion. Also, you're video holds Christians to the standard of the OT, though Christians are Judged according to the NT. ~just wondering
@mina7versace If the myth is to be believed, the god of the old testament is also his own son Jesus. As such, what one does the other is responsible for.
BTW, I gave your video a thumbsdown, not for its content but for the fact it contained nothing but un-read text. This is YouTube. It is a video sharing site, not an article sharing site. When I want to read I get a book, or go to a discussion forum.
It's a small point, but no one was born Christian. The only religion that I know of that people are actually born into is Judaism. Actually, that's not right either. People with Jewish mothers are Jews, that actually does not mean they were born into Judaism since their Jewish mother, or whoever may have raised the person, may be totally secular. Just because you were born into a Christian family does not mean you were born a Christian.
On the contrary, your decision is based on faith alone. Faith that there is no God, despite the abundance of scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist. You have faith that you are your own little coincidence with your own control, so that you cannot be told that anything is wrong. The difference with your faith and mine, is that yours is blind, and mine is open and set on stone. Look for the evidence and be WILLING to see and hear the evidence before saying there is none.
@ADSciple I don’t “have faith” there is no god anymore than I “have faith” leprechauns do not exist. There is no need for faith where evidence actually exists. You say you have some - give me the best evidence you have and we’ll see if it measures up.
BTW, evidence is not contingent on anyone being “willing to see and hear”. It is persuasive on its own terms, unless you are wilfully ignorant, close minded, or insane.
@askegg Exactly my point: Closed-minded means not being willing to "see and hear" new information openly. You are trying to use what I said to...invalidate what I said?
Now, the "best evidence" is entirely personal. What is the particular area that you find most relevant? Give me a specific topic. What would convince you the most that God does, or does not, exist?
Pray to god to magically change my mind. I give you and him permission, so there's no violation of free will. Have god literally MAKE me believe. That's something he should be able to do, and now (with my permission and his desire to save me from hell) willing to do.
If there is any one piece of evidence for your god, then it should stand on its own. It should be convincing to everyone. One's personal view should not change that. Of course, if it's not evidence,but just an excuse for someone to believe who feels he needs one, then that's a personal choice for your taste.
@AgeOfScience Thank you for the mature comment. That's an interesting question. Well I am not an everyday "Christian". It's not about religion to me. Due to the characters limit, I will go in further depth in your inbox. But when I said open, I was saying every person must be willing to accept new information even if it invalidates your own. The only way to educate oneself is to eliminate predetermined conclusions and evaluate information based on what makes sense.
@ADSciple No. You shouldn't accept all information. That's being stupid, not "open minded." Information should be persuasive on its own, regardless of how I feel towards it. The truth isn't the truth because I like it.
None of the god stuff makes sense. You've told yourself it makes sense...but, maybe you have a peculiar definition for what makes sense. Have you ever pondered that you might be wrong and ill informed? I mean, you advocate being open minded....
@ADSciple I see that you already got one serious rebuttal that destroyed this stupid comment, but I wish you would just stop wasting peoples time by trolling with arguments that you have undoubtably seen destroyed over and over. I refuse to believe that you are as stupid as this comment. Get a real argument before you post again.
Your so-called evidence for god's existence wouldn't prove that there exists only 1 god versus 2, 3 or 10,000 gods, that god is good rather than evil, alive rather than dead, or involved in human affairs rather than not involved
You simply attribute to "god" whichever characteristics your concept of said deity contains
That is why there is no consensus amoung the faithful as to what god is like & this non-consensus is strong proof that god is man-made
@ADSciple "abundance of scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist."
I'm what you would call an agnostic, and I'm interested in knowing what you might say is the strongest piece of evidence supportive of god's existence. Something you'd say is very difficult to explain away or that seems the most persuasive to you?
@ADSciple Most people don't wake up one morning and say "I don't think i'll believe in god anymore" Chances are, foolish an endeavor it might seem, they've looked for the evidence of some greater power, found none and came to this conclusion.
Just LOL @ this - "scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist"
Actually, from what I've seen, from what people say who have "turned" atheist, they generally don't look for evidence. The fact is they tend to look for reasons they can use to convince the concept God out of their minds because they don't want to believe based on personal feelings such as resentment, This is not all cases, no, just the general one.
And please do yourself a favor by not sounding like a fool with your evidence comment. Do you have all possible knowledge?
@ADSciple This approach has the integrity of creative accounting.
Reasons sighted usually sighted total non-sequiturs such as the uniqueness of snowflakes & the like. Even the lies of Intelligent Design, if they were true, would not prove it was God.
Even if you had somehow proven the origins of existance of God, that would establish the current existance of God. According to the most old religious texts, miracles happened, yet nothing like it happens now. If the texts were to be believed..
@kommissarw ...Cont..*would NOT establish the current existence of God
If the texts were to be believed..God has ceased performing miracles because of a change of interest/inclination, reduction of power, or ceased existence.
@kommissarw Great posts. Not to be critical for the sake of it, but I thought I'd point out that you're using 'sighted' when it's actually 'cited'. Judging by your name, perhaps English isn't a first language? Hopefully you take this correction in the manner it's intended.
@Skindoggiedog I say, correction very much appreciated ol boy!
English is my native tongue, I just have no significant qualifications thus have not picked up the lexicon particular to academia. I just pickup various concepts along the way as I study in my own time.
@ADSciple man made god into their own image,jesus was made a god by man.christianity is tommorows mythology.all religions die,all gods die.christianity has turned into a money god,just see any program on tv on sunday mournings.
Excellent video, but I must take issue with your use of the word 'proof', since this suggests that there is a possibility for evidence in favour of religious belief, where there is none. Religions have no evidence, never mind proof!
There is of course a possibility of religious proof.
God might actually exist. He might at any moment pop into being to declare his own existence, and sit there while we run whatever tests we like to confirm his claims with evidence, before he touches us all with his noodly appendage.
But you're right, at current there is no evidence nor proof.
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Cool video I actually kinda liked the music! I have to nitpick on one point: Do you really think killing for any reason is wrong? I can come up with several scenario's where killing is justified and even possibly a good idea i.e. Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, Self/Other's defense (If a man is raping your sister you think it's wrong to shoot him). Just a thought... The only things I've been able to think of that are always wrong are rape and child abuse. What are your thoughts?
@VeritasLuxMea100 This video is now 4 years old (yikes) and my views on many things has changed. There are scenarios in which inflicting pain, or even killing another, might be justified.
@askegg True, and I wouldn't expect them to be the same as 4 years ago, I was in a pretty similar boat less than a year ago. If not strictly for your consideration, my comment was for others who may read my comments later. Just something to provoke thought :)
@sushanalone Sam Harris does a verity good job proposing scenarios in his book “The End of Faith”, however I will attempt to summarise in a Youtube comment:
If a terrorist was *known* to have placed a chemical weapon in a crowded cit but refused to divulge where it was, we might be justified using whatever means necessary on one to save millions. It is a risk/reward payout. Where the line is drawn is wide and grey.
@askegg "It is a risk/reward payout." This is basically the calculation you should do for every moral decision. Assuming you look at risk / reward for society as a whole and not just you as an individual.
With torture, you increase the risk of getting bad information. You end up chasing false leads instead of looking at more reliable evidence.
To all people Jesus Christ is the son of God Almighty and one day every eye will see Him coming in the clouds. You see religion kills and I had that for 35 years and now I have a personal relationship with them and I have Life Abundantly I know them now and it is a great thing that God the Great I am has done for me but not me only for us all Seek and Find Ask it will be given Knock it will Be Open for YOU....
@Lifeasachristian "will see Him coming in the clouds" "I have a personal relationship with Him"
Um...which is it? Do you have a relationship or is he yet to return?
"religion kills"
How is your "relationship" or his pending return any different from a religion? You know what? Never mind. I wouldn't stomach the ensuing drivel should you choose to explain it.
Christianity defies human nature: from an atheists point of view christianity would simply have been created by a man. But, if you were to make a religion would you make every natural instinct a sin? Also, it defies society, at the time of course the dominent societies were Roman and Jewish, i wont go into what they were like but they were nothing like the Christian philosophy. Jesus, had no education and therefore should have been susceptable to human nature and society
It's too bad you weren't raise in a Pentecostal Church, where you could have learned the power of real speaking in tongues, not some random rambling. My wife had rheumatoid arthritis for years, but after going up to get prayed for in church hundreds of times, the last time she said she felt the pain lifting out of her joints, back, & hip as each one was prayed for. I still have all the medicines from years ago. I can speak in tongues - I would be nuts to fake it & then believe based on that.
@askegg Yes. It's just as you implied: If you had empirical of G-d's existence, and the right religion, you would go all out for Him and be fanatical as well. I don't think the Bible is without error, but even if most of it was wrong, I can still speak in tongues, which means the Holy Spirit exists, and Jesus is still on the throne. Obviously, just because we have proof of G-d's existence, doesn't mean you do. Faith is the first act of love to God, because you are risking everything for Him.
@aaroncohen I don’t think you understand what empirical evidence actually means, or what it may show. Sure you might be talking in tongues, but how do I know you are not making it up, delusional, or mistaken? What evidence do you have the speaking in tongues can only be caused by the god of the Bible? Could it be caused by aliens or another god? How do you know it is not? EVIDENCE please.
@askegg I understand what it means. I addressed that when I said "just because we have proof of G-d's existence, doesn't mean you do." I am not saying you should believe based on our experience, but criticizing those who believe isn't correct. There is no evidence any human can see that can not be questioned as being from aliens, etc. Even if someone grew back an arm on video, you could say "how do we know aliens didn't do that?" If an angel or G-d Himself came down, you could claim "aliens".
@aaroncohen OK, good. We have established that your experiences do not count as evidence for me. This rules out all subjective experiences (by definition) leaving only those things which can be objectively verified. Can you supply any objective evidence demonstrating your god exists (and it could not possibly be an alien, as you point out)?
@askegg "Can you supply any objective evidence demonstrating your god exists (and it could not possibly be an alien, as you point out)?" I've already said this is an impossibility, and your "informed decision" statement makes it illogical. I said, If G-d were to provide empirical evidence on live tv, everyone would know, negating faith as an act of love. To your question, "Why do you care what I think?" I could ask the same thing of you, but I believe we both know the answers to the questions.
@aaroncohen Faith (belief in something without any evidence) is an act of love? How many other things do you beleive without any evidence - that is, on faith alone?
@askegg Islam, Mormonism, Budhism, Confucionism, nonMessianic Judaism etc. have virtually no claims of miraculous healings from G-d and speaking in tongues. I know this isn't empirical, but it is further evidence that Chrisianity is the true religion. I know the difference between emotions and the spiritual. When I feel G-d's presence it is far different than chemicals running from my brain through my body to create an emotional feeling. All I've said below are resonable points for my belief.
@aaroncohen I am not worried about these other religions - disproving them does not make your correct. That is not the way evidence works.
A thought experiment for you - if I were to inject exactly the right quantities of the various chemicals involved, could I invoke the emotional feelings you allude to above? If so, doesn’t this anchor your emotions in physical reality where no god is required?
@askegg Again, "informed decisions about probabilities." It would be a huge coincidence that only one religion has millions of claims of healings and supernatural occurances while all other religions have virtually none, combined, for that one not to be the correct one. G-d's presence doesn't feel like emotions, it feels like something coming from outside of you into you. So that would be like asking,"Could I inject the right chemicals to make you think someone was tapping you on your shoulder?"
@aaroncohen "Millions of CLAIMED healings" - that should tell you a lot.
A feeling (by definition) is internal. Yes - you can cause the sensation of being tapped on the shoulder without actually tapping you on the shoulder. Nerve impluses are simply nerves being excited.
@askegg Even if you were an amputee, and I prayed for you in person to be healed and speak in tongues and your leg grew back instantly and you could speak in tongues, questioning your own experience with, "Could aliens or a different god have done these things for me?" would still be possible. If you died and went to heaven, you could ask, "How do I know aliens aren't in my mind, making me hallucinate this?" It always takes faith. Yes, we could be lying or delusional, but we know we are not.
@aaroncohen Here you are trying to escape Descartes “brain in a box” scenario which I agree cannot be done. However, this is not the kind of faith we are referring to when dealing with claims about religion and gods. The brain in a box points out that we cannot know anything with absolute certainty, but this does not mean we cannot make informed decisions about probabilities of various entities existing. There seems to be little evidence for a “god”.
@askegg I disagree, because my evidence is not subjective to me. However, this begs the question, "Why doesn't G-d just prove Himself to all humans?" If He did, we would be like angels, who have no risk in believing in G-d because they see Him. G-d already has billions of angels. He wanted beings who would have to show Him dedication by risking their entire existense by believing in Him, before they knew for sure if He was even real. This is a reason He allows pain; to let us to prove our love.
@aaroncohen I disagree, because my evidence is not subjective to me."
If your experience is only evidence to you, it is by definition subjective. You cannot demonstrate it to me and I cannot verify it. Why should your experiences impress me?
"G-d already has billions of angels."
Another claim without evidence.
".. show Him dedication by risking their entire existense by believing in Him, before they knew for sure if He was even real."
If the evidence is experienced by only one or two individuals, then it is objective to them, though not necessarily to anyone else.
"G-d already has billions of angels.
Another claim without evidence."
That's stating the obvious. It was an attempt at posturing a rational explanation as to why God doesn't perform verifiable miracles on camera for the whole world to see.
"So he wants gullible people?"
That's occasionally what it takes to experience any miracle for yourself.
@aaroncohen Individuals may have what they think are objective experiences, but we now know enough about the human mind to recognise it can be fooled - and rather easily. How can anyone tell someone else’s delusion from reality? For that matter, how can we be sure our perceptions and interpretations are accurate?
I do not think I want to believe in a god who requires gullibility as a prerequisite.
@askegg Yea, she could have been healed by aliens, another god or her own mind. However, she was healed in church while praying to Yeshua after tying hundreds of times.I received speaking in tongues while praying to the Holy Spirit. For us to believe the timing was just coincidence would take more faith than believing aliens or anything else did it, also nonsensical. Proving that God exists is just as impossible as proving he doesn't, because there can always be alternative crazy explanations.
@aaroncohen "Yea, she could have been healed by aliens, another god or her own mind. However, she was healed in church while praying to Yeshua after tying hundreds of times.”
Where is happened does not rule out the previous possibilities you listed.
"Proving that God exists is just as impossible as proving he doesn’t.”
So why are you seeking to prove your god exists to me? Why do you care what I think?
@askegg I came here to learn about your "conversion" to athiesm, not to prove my G-d exists to you. I disagreed with your implication that all believers weren't intelligent, critically thinking, or were deceived "sheep." I am attempting to explain the reason for my own faith. You say, "Where it happened doesn't rule out the other possibilities." You also say, "we can make informed decisions about probabilties" - contradictory. Since her healing was instant, this was an informed decision for US.
You said, "As an adult, it's either a habit or you don't give it any thought." Also, on my wife's video, you said, "Why should anyone respect (religion?)" If I misinterpreted these statements as implying what I stated above, it was my mistake, my apologies,but I certainly had no intention of lying.
@aaroncohen That is very admirable. I must say, I am rather impressed you have engaged someone who is highly critical of their wife’s actions. You are a stand up guy.
This is how single minded christians are, you say stop but they won't, but if you read the bible you can come to no other conclusion, religion is made up to control the masses through fear and the tax free dollars are a nice little touch. When will christians learn. When when will the bullying stop. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.
@askegg I see myself more as a RETIRED/RECOVERING CATHOLIC and not so much an atheist. According tot the dictionary, an theist is one who does not believe in god, the assumption is that god exist. A theist in the other hand is one who believes in a god or gods, assumption, god might exist and his name might be Annu or Ra or Zeus or Jawe or Jehovah or non of the above and humanity might just be an experiment for some unknown reason.
@TheDano1947@askegg I see myself more as a RETIRED/RECOVERING CATHOLIC and not so much an atheist. According tot the dictionary, an atheist is one who does not believe in god, the assumption is that god exist. A theist in the other hand is one who believes in a god or gods, assumption, god might exist and his name might be Annu or Ra or Zeus or Jawe or Jehovah or non of the above and humanity might just be an experiment for some unknown reason.
@TheDano1947 "According tot the dictionary, an atheist is one who does not believe in god, the assumption is that god exist.”
Yeah. That would be a bad definition. It is sufficient to not believe a god exists, rather than thinking one might and concluding atheists deny the possibility.
@askegg To the contrary, many people have doubts about the existence of a supreme being and some of them are agnostics. That you believe is, of course, your right. Imposing that belief on others, however, is not. That is the fascist nature of religion. Convert or die or suffer the torment of the damned. Non believers would remain silent if believers would only keep their belief tho themselves.
I too read the whole bible and I too rejected it but christians feel the need to guilt you back in so I'm on a crusade to demolish every argument for religion. I have a devout catholic sister, whom I love dearly but we disagree on religion but she won't let up. I tell her I don't believe but she says she'll pray for me and that really irritates me. It's like if she prays for me I will suddenly see the light but it's been 51 years and this is not a crises of faith. My faith died 52 years ago.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
GOD, HEAVEN, AND SEX: Internet article examines the Biblical possibility of sex in heaven. Human sexuality isn't just for reproduction. There are reasons the Bible requires marriage for sex on earth, but those reasons won't exist in heaven. Scripture teaches, in heaven, we'll be like the angels only in one sense - no marriage, but we won't be like angels in every other way (i.e. Bible says we'll enjoy food and drink). Psalm 16:11 says there will be great spiritual joy and pleasures in heaven.
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a living cell. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument for a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed in design or useless.
BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from variations produced having survival value. It doesn't produce variations. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
GENETIC INFORMATION DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of transitional forms and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discusses mixed species in fossils (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum conveniently ignored by evolutionists).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
NOT ALL EVOLUTIONISTS even agree on the fossils used to support and reconstruct human evolution. The bones are incomplete. There's no certainty of the bones belonging to the same creature. They can reconstruct whatever they want from these bones, and they have. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read my article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE
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I was a Christian for the last twenty years or so, and I feel as elated to be free of religion today as I was to find Jesus then. Now when i look back I feel foolish for believing in such nonsense. I can't understand how I could have felt so strongly about something that I see so plainly as absurd now. The only drawback so far is death seems a little scarier. I'm always up for a debate with those who haven't woke up yet:)
@marshallbx5a You also have the problem with Paul. What he wrote, and he allegedly lived at the same time as Jesus, directly contradicts the gospels accounts. This is, in large part, ignored by Christians and the church. I know. I was in seminary until I began bringing up issues I was finding and was instructed to overlook them and use faith. If the bible is the inspired word of god it should at least agree with itself, should it not? Or is god trying to trick us?
@marshallbx5a The cornerstones on which the bible makes it claims of authority are deeply flawed. The bible is quite clearly written by men. Men who claim they were 'inspired' by god. Yet there is no test for this claim of divine inspiration. The bible exists as it does because of the selective readership of church founders. The OT was included to increase legitimacy among the Jews. The NT was slapped together - hundreds of years later - by a council with clear goals and agendas.
@marshallbx5a In 1 Corinthians 2, Paul admitted that he had no clever arguments for his religious views except the 'evidence' of God’s power to change lives with the gospel - which is not evidence at all as it is purely subjective. If someone cleans up their act after 'accepting' christ - it is because they made the choices themselves and they put the effort into the task. Maybe the fear Christianity relies on helps motivate them, but there is no divine intervention whatsoever.
@marshallbx5a Before you claim "well he is lacking in faith then" I have to go back to no amputees have ever had limbs miraculously grow back. Do amputees somehow lack the prerequisite faith to attain a healing? Interesting that you bring up ancient documents in reference to Jesus. No documents ever mention his existence, at all, until hundreds of years after he supposedly lived. Paul thought his Jesus lived in the distant past or in another world. Why the deafening lack of evidence?
@marshallbx5a Are you saying that you had surgery or did not have surgery? They way you phrased things is a bit confusing as its one long run on sentence. It appears to indicate that you were almost deaf, had surgery, and are now healed.
I will ask you this question: what does god have against amputees? Never, in all of recorded medical history, has an amputee had a limb grow back. Does god hate amputees? I know a christian who has been praying for his feet to grow back for 15 years. Nothing.
I'm on the fence with religion now. Man has now successfully made the most important parts of a cell such as the synthetic ribosomes, man has also replicated the conditions that were present during the early formation of life which made over 25 amino acids the building blocks of life. They have made proto-cells from scratch. Scientist are saying that they are only a year or so from making a fully functional synthetic cell. If that happens I think it might be the death blow to religion.
@askegg No they will just step a little closer and test us on how the big bang happened and after that is sorted out they will keep testing and testing its a never ending loop hole i don't want to say i hate religion but seeing what it does to our species makes it hostile to us and needs to be dismantlement as fast as we can the sooner the better.
@akkadianarab umm even if this was accomplished...the other planets and stars and earth itself dint just apear...ther are hundreds of things that sientist cant explain and dont know where to start..if they learn to make a planet that mocks earths creation call me up and we will talk
@dtwldaniel ever read the old testament? ur god pretty much killed non believers in the name of "love and justice" hes not much different from jihadist
@firevortex500 no, the exact opposite ;) i know that he doesn't want to turn women into second class citizens, that's why he left christianity ;D i'm a woman, i'm a muslim, and i have SO MANY rights. you have no idea.. go study islam..
. . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . . . (Sayyid Abul A'La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, vol. 1, p. 165)
@RihamRouge A woman's testimony counts half of a man's testimony.
The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:
And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 205).
@RihamRouge I've read the quran AND the bible. I'm not impressed with either. I'm all aware about taquiyya (lying to nonmuslims to spread your religion) and how islam goal for peace is issuing worldwide shariah law. How about the duty for you to kill nonmuslims whenever you find them? That'sin there too. I'm also aware of your pedophile prophet who married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her at 9. I refuse to follow a prophet who was a pedophile and so violent.
@firevortex500 again, your comment showed me that you have no idea about islam. kill nonmuslims whenever you find them? so you didn't know that islam tells you that killing (muslim/nonmuslim) is the one of the biggest sins ever? that killing only one person is like killing all the people? i'm a muslim and my best friend is a nonmuslim, and i don't think about killing her?! why? because my religion tells me not to. and i completely follow islam.
@RihamRouge Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
I think ISLAM is the True. you can read 'Quran' and u cant find any error. BUT here is some wrong translation. so u can also see this Video 'Is Quran Gods Word - Dr zakir naik' you can find more DR ZAKIR NAIKs videos :D I hope u will find the true religion. If ur hindu you can also see 'similarity between hinduism and islam-Dr zakir naik' and if ur Christian u can see 'similarity between christianity and islam' and if ur Atheist you can see 'is the god exist-dr zakir naik'
I will always believe that we have a God...one God. but I will never make believe I know our God's ways because of a book written by who knows who. Children suffer with cancer while killers live to be a hundred. There is no rime or reason for this and I'm not going to make believe there is. There is a God buddie but I can in no way say what God can and can not do. I do believe that real love never ends and that helps me sleep better at night.
You don't have to be that kind of Christianity to be a Christian. In fact, Orthodox Christians would say that the kind of faith you are fighting is heretical. You may prefer theological positions that predate modernity (Coptic, Easter Orthodoxy), or more recently radical orthodoxy, and weak theology. They are more atheist than atheists, in that their idea of God demolishes ideas of God in both the theist and atheist camps.
nice lite video :o) did you feel betrade after you realised the bibel was totaly retarded. i did. to bad so many good ppl dont see it the way you did. take care and enoy life :o)
@sommer84 Not really. I felt light a light had been turned on. The world was brighter and I could see everything with much more clarity. It all made sense and it was wondrous.
@askegg I saw your entire video. Start to end. I tried to put myself in your shoes and see what it would've been like. Overall, I have to say I'm not convinced with your reasoning. All of them. I will only take one example: You say "But if you going to ignore the bits you don't like, how do you decide which bits are good?" Seriously? Why would you ever change the "true word"? Yes, some churches r, but YOU should know better. 2+2=4. Not 3, not 5. That is just one ex. I wish I cud enlighten u more
@Instilinachange1 If the bible is true and you feel you shouldn't change any of it (i.e. you like all the bits and think they are good) then why don't we still own slaves; stone our children; kill unbelievers. The point in the video is that the church "ignores" these "bits". I find it hard to believe in a diety that would condone this behavior. And I might know right from wrong but why would I be in a religion that obviously doesn't.
@2000bluecrow Something tells me deep inside that you are not asking this question to ridicule the religion, but are seriously inquisitive. I respect that. I really do. I'm no expert but all I can say is the Bible provides a framework for how people should live. You say that you know right from wrong. Based on that assumption, if the Bible says you should help a fellow human being, what do your morals say? Most of the Bible teachings are morally correct. People overlook them and focus onthebad
@Instilinachange1 You talk as if christianity has a monopoly on morality. People from ALL faiths do good things. The golden rule was here waaay before Christianity or any other religion.
@firevortex500 Answer me this: When did I say people of other faiths are wrong? If something "seems" to you that I'm implying, then you might as well not post on here.
I admit the archaic lexis (biblical quotes) is very romantic-sounding and ethereal but … just remember: it is only a text. With his way with words, Shakespeare is no less penetrating or admirable to me … and this just makes me feel wonderful about humanity’s natural (I must stress, inherently secular in the absence of the divine) and wonderful abilities we, as glorious creatures of the earth, behold – again (not stressed enough) without “his” empirically provable presence.
Why do “believers” need to kill heathens (in crusades, etc) if God sends them to hell anyway? How do you justify that? “Thought shall not kill” – unless, of course, it suits your (not empirically provable) faith/cause.
For instance our foods r ruined, still we try to eat fine.
To live a meaningful life humans must satisfy both their physical and spiritual needs_ Matthew4:4; 5:3
Would it not be a mistake to reject even Truth because falsehood is highly flowing around? As counterfeit money, false religion has no real value but not the ‘True One’. Seek 'IT'!
To properly meet our 'spiritual need', we must heed the Bible counsel in Ephesians5:10 "Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord"
When I became an Atheist, the concept of Hell ceased to torment me. These days I cannot imagine living under fear of the conjurations of demented, sick, ancient men with a hatred for anyone who was actually happy and free.
If there was a God, it would be sick for him to make a person, have that person do bad things, tell his other followers to kill this person in his name, then send that person to hell after death. If God could do anything, he could abolish death, suffering, doubt and non-belief. But he doesn't. Hmm...interesting.
The fact that you find God offensive merely underscores that you are in darkness. If God was a fairy tale as you imply then truly you would ignore it like you ignore real fairy tales, but when you love evil, you hate truth and light.
Even God's word says men will call evil good and call good evil.
@imbiased "Even God's word says men will call evil good and call good evil."
God's word also says to murder your unruly children and include people picking up sticks on the sabbath. God's word also recommends how to beat your slaves properly. God's word is filled with malevolent acts and you ignore them because of religious bias.
i wonder if people who say anyone who walks away from christianity was never a follower in the first place would accuse the disciples that walked away from jesus of the same thing. see, this is what happens when you EDUCATE your self, and this is why theism is anti-education. they want you to learn what they want you to learn and anything beyond that is 'of the devil'... remember luther? the one who said logic is of the devil? well, i'd rather be logical and devilish than emotional and insane
@RobDZeppelin REAL ORIGINAL! i've never heard that one before! seriously! get a new line, atheists! plus, you probably think i'm a Christian. Real Christians walk the walk. I wish I could say i did.
@RobDZeppelin Based on your other comments, I can not tell if you are religious or not. You seem to flip back and forth between sarcasm and seriousness. But if you argument is that God is real because it was written in a book, then you have to also accept that magic and superheros are real, because they too are written about in books.
you never had a relationship with God. No person that has had a real intimate relationship with Jesus Christ could TRULY ever call themselves atheist.
@Raxatlix So i take it you have never had sex for fun, only to produce your children. Yes? Beleive it or not, homosexuality is very NATURAL. Apes, dolfins, panguins, dogs, and several other species have gay or lesbian intercourse and relationships. If you say that a panguin, human, dog, ect, is going to burn in hell for all eternity because he/she is gay, then YOU are the idiot my friend! nuff said.
@Raxatlix Cannibalism was common in humans as well and those wafers and juice are suppose to be the body and blood of christ. A symbol of cannibalism? So can I insert nuff said here?
@Raxatlix So your saying none of that is true right? Its just a metaphor and nothing more right? Then I am proud to be called numbnuts, question is what do we call all you bible thumpers. Better yet what should we call all of you that take the wafer and juice as the body and blood of christ? Fakers? Wanna be cannibals? The whole thing is ridiculous. I think the question posted to you had to do with sex. Your response is cannibalism? Just answer the question that was asked. Nuff said?
my favorite part is the Scientology ad before the video.
darbone 1 day ago
Hi askegg, I just wondered 2 things. Having read the Bible, at 5:16 you ask why Christ had to die. I thought he eternally existed (if one accepts the words of John) and so couldn't be killed no more than one could kill a ghost or an emotion. Also, you're video holds Christians to the standard of the OT, though Christians are Judged according to the NT. ~just wondering
mina7versace 1 day ago
@mina7versace If the myth is to be believed, the god of the old testament is also his own son Jesus. As such, what one does the other is responsible for.
askegg 1 day ago
There are only two justifiable reasons for killing, eminent danger or compassion but the law does not recognize the second and questions the first.
TheDano1947 2 weeks ago
BTW, I gave your video a thumbsdown, not for its content but for the fact it contained nothing but un-read text. This is YouTube. It is a video sharing site, not an article sharing site. When I want to read I get a book, or go to a discussion forum.
Kailoa36 2 weeks ago
It's a small point, but no one was born Christian. The only religion that I know of that people are actually born into is Judaism. Actually, that's not right either. People with Jewish mothers are Jews, that actually does not mean they were born into Judaism since their Jewish mother, or whoever may have raised the person, may be totally secular. Just because you were born into a Christian family does not mean you were born a Christian.
Kailoa36 2 weeks ago
On the contrary, your decision is based on faith alone. Faith that there is no God, despite the abundance of scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist. You have faith that you are your own little coincidence with your own control, so that you cannot be told that anything is wrong. The difference with your faith and mine, is that yours is blind, and mine is open and set on stone. Look for the evidence and be WILLING to see and hear the evidence before saying there is none.
ADSciple 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple I don’t “have faith” there is no god anymore than I “have faith” leprechauns do not exist. There is no need for faith where evidence actually exists. You say you have some - give me the best evidence you have and we’ll see if it measures up.
BTW, evidence is not contingent on anyone being “willing to see and hear”. It is persuasive on its own terms, unless you are wilfully ignorant, close minded, or insane.
askegg 2 weeks ago 14
@askegg Exactly my point: Closed-minded means not being willing to "see and hear" new information openly. You are trying to use what I said to...invalidate what I said?
Now, the "best evidence" is entirely personal. What is the particular area that you find most relevant? Give me a specific topic. What would convince you the most that God does, or does not, exist?
ADSciple 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple It is not up to me to supply you with arguments and evidence to support *your* claims.
askegg 2 weeks ago 2
@ADSciple
Mind control.
Pray to god to magically change my mind. I give you and him permission, so there's no violation of free will. Have god literally MAKE me believe. That's something he should be able to do, and now (with my permission and his desire to save me from hell) willing to do.
I'll let you know when it works.
rkyeun 1 week ago
@ADSciple
If there is any one piece of evidence for your god, then it should stand on its own. It should be convincing to everyone. One's personal view should not change that. Of course, if it's not evidence,but just an excuse for someone to believe who feels he needs one, then that's a personal choice for your taste.
ManicEightBall 1 week ago
@ADSciple You claim your faith is 'open'. Does that mean you can name exactly what it would take for you to doubt your faith? If so, what?
AgeOfScience 2 weeks ago
@AgeOfScience Thank you for the mature comment. That's an interesting question. Well I am not an everyday "Christian". It's not about religion to me. Due to the characters limit, I will go in further depth in your inbox. But when I said open, I was saying every person must be willing to accept new information even if it invalidates your own. The only way to educate oneself is to eliminate predetermined conclusions and evaluate information based on what makes sense.
ADSciple 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple No. You shouldn't accept all information. That's being stupid, not "open minded." Information should be persuasive on its own, regardless of how I feel towards it. The truth isn't the truth because I like it.
None of the god stuff makes sense. You've told yourself it makes sense...but, maybe you have a peculiar definition for what makes sense. Have you ever pondered that you might be wrong and ill informed? I mean, you advocate being open minded....
meaninter03 1 week ago 6
@ADSciple I see that you already got one serious rebuttal that destroyed this stupid comment, but I wish you would just stop wasting peoples time by trolling with arguments that you have undoubtably seen destroyed over and over. I refuse to believe that you are as stupid as this comment. Get a real argument before you post again.
trueleroix 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple Wow, you need to look up the word Atheist. Also look up Scientific and Evidence.
darbone 2 weeks ago
Your so-called evidence for god's existence wouldn't prove that there exists only 1 god versus 2, 3 or 10,000 gods, that god is good rather than evil, alive rather than dead, or involved in human affairs rather than not involved
You simply attribute to "god" whichever characteristics your concept of said deity contains
That is why there is no consensus amoung the faithful as to what god is like & this non-consensus is strong proof that god is man-made
Voila
LetReasonPrevail1 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple "abundance of scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist."
I'm what you would call an agnostic, and I'm interested in knowing what you might say is the strongest piece of evidence supportive of god's existence. Something you'd say is very difficult to explain away or that seems the most persuasive to you?
Skindoggiedog 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple Most people don't wake up one morning and say "I don't think i'll believe in god anymore" Chances are, foolish an endeavor it might seem, they've looked for the evidence of some greater power, found none and came to this conclusion.
Just LOL @ this - "scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist"
MrRyan23xx 2 weeks ago
@MrRyan23xx
Actually, from what I've seen, from what people say who have "turned" atheist, they generally don't look for evidence. The fact is they tend to look for reasons they can use to convince the concept God out of their minds because they don't want to believe based on personal feelings such as resentment, This is not all cases, no, just the general one.
And please do yourself a favor by not sounding like a fool with your evidence comment. Do you have all possible knowledge?
ADSciple 2 weeks ago
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@ADSciple "scientific, historical, and logical evidence that DOES exist" Please don't call others fools when you write such things. Thank you.
MrRyan23xx 2 weeks ago
@ADSciple There is evidence for god? Your personal one? Or some other one? And, it's valid? That's news.
meaninter03 1 week ago
@ADSciple This approach has the integrity of creative accounting.
Reasons sighted usually sighted total non-sequiturs such as the uniqueness of snowflakes & the like. Even the lies of Intelligent Design, if they were true, would not prove it was God.
Even if you had somehow proven the origins of existance of God, that would establish the current existance of God. According to the most old religious texts, miracles happened, yet nothing like it happens now. If the texts were to be believed..
kommissarw 1 week ago
@kommissarw ...Cont..*would NOT establish the current existence of God
If the texts were to be believed..God has ceased performing miracles because of a change of interest/inclination, reduction of power, or ceased existence.
kommissarw 1 week ago
@kommissarw Great posts. Not to be critical for the sake of it, but I thought I'd point out that you're using 'sighted' when it's actually 'cited'. Judging by your name, perhaps English isn't a first language? Hopefully you take this correction in the manner it's intended.
Cheers.
Skindoggiedog 1 week ago
@Skindoggiedog I say, correction very much appreciated ol boy!
English is my native tongue, I just have no significant qualifications thus have not picked up the lexicon particular to academia. I just pickup various concepts along the way as I study in my own time.
kommissarw 1 week ago
@ADSciple man made god into their own image,jesus was made a god by man.christianity is tommorows mythology.all religions die,all gods die.christianity has turned into a money god,just see any program on tv on sunday mournings.
MrEnlightenup 1 week ago
I'm sure this has been pointed out before, @askegg, but, you were born an atheist. :D
Great vids. Thanks.
meaninter03 3 weeks ago
@meaninter03 First ever comment, and many afterwards. But I thank you anyway.
askegg 2 weeks ago
Excellent video, but I must take issue with your use of the word 'proof', since this suggests that there is a possibility for evidence in favour of religious belief, where there is none. Religions have no evidence, never mind proof!
Fierfek1972 3 weeks ago
@Fierfek1972
There is of course a possibility of religious proof.
God might actually exist. He might at any moment pop into being to declare his own existence, and sit there while we run whatever tests we like to confirm his claims with evidence, before he touches us all with his noodly appendage.
But you're right, at current there is no evidence nor proof.
rkyeun 3 weeks ago
@rkyeun When "He" does pop in, my only question will be "WTF"?
darbone 2 weeks ago
Good job with the video.
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JezusSlave 4 weeks ago
Such a well made and true viedo.
religonisshit 1 month ago
Cool video I actually kinda liked the music! I have to nitpick on one point: Do you really think killing for any reason is wrong? I can come up with several scenario's where killing is justified and even possibly a good idea i.e. Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, Self/Other's defense (If a man is raping your sister you think it's wrong to shoot him). Just a thought... The only things I've been able to think of that are always wrong are rape and child abuse. What are your thoughts?
VeritasLuxMea100 1 month ago
@VeritasLuxMea100 This video is now 4 years old (yikes) and my views on many things has changed. There are scenarios in which inflicting pain, or even killing another, might be justified.
askegg 1 month ago
@askegg True, and I wouldn't expect them to be the same as 4 years ago, I was in a pretty similar boat less than a year ago. If not strictly for your consideration, my comment was for others who may read my comments later. Just something to provoke thought :)
VeritasLuxMea100 1 month ago
@askegg just curious, on what occasions would inflicting pain intentionally be morally justified?
sushanalone 3 weeks ago
@sushanalone Sam Harris does a verity good job proposing scenarios in his book “The End of Faith”, however I will attempt to summarise in a Youtube comment:
If a terrorist was *known* to have placed a chemical weapon in a crowded cit but refused to divulge where it was, we might be justified using whatever means necessary on one to save millions. It is a risk/reward payout. Where the line is drawn is wide and grey.
askegg 3 weeks ago
@askegg "It is a risk/reward payout." This is basically the calculation you should do for every moral decision. Assuming you look at risk / reward for society as a whole and not just you as an individual.
With torture, you increase the risk of getting bad information. You end up chasing false leads instead of looking at more reliable evidence.
BrotherAlpha 3 weeks ago
To all people Jesus Christ is the son of God Almighty and one day every eye will see Him coming in the clouds. You see religion kills and I had that for 35 years and now I have a personal relationship with them and I have Life Abundantly I know them now and it is a great thing that God the Great I am has done for me but not me only for us all Seek and Find Ask it will be given Knock it will Be Open for YOU....
Lifeasachristian 1 month ago
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@Lifeasachristian "will see Him coming in the clouds" "I have a personal relationship with Him"
Um...which is it? Do you have a relationship or is he yet to return?
"religion kills"
How is your "relationship" or his pending return any different from a religion? You know what? Never mind. I wouldn't stomach the ensuing drivel should you choose to explain it.
fdasherv 3 weeks ago
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Christianity defies human nature: from an atheists point of view christianity would simply have been created by a man. But, if you were to make a religion would you make every natural instinct a sin? Also, it defies society, at the time of course the dominent societies were Roman and Jewish, i wont go into what they were like but they were nothing like the Christian philosophy. Jesus, had no education and therefore should have been susceptable to human nature and society
Schism704 1 month ago
Well here I am buddy. I've been subbed to you forever and now it's time to see what exactly you have to say...
I like to go through the vids chronologically so as to get a feel for the evolution of your personality. Right then, I'm off!
2eelShmeal 2 months ago
It's too bad you weren't raise in a Pentecostal Church, where you could have learned the power of real speaking in tongues, not some random rambling. My wife had rheumatoid arthritis for years, but after going up to get prayed for in church hundreds of times, the last time she said she felt the pain lifting out of her joints, back, & hip as each one was prayed for. I still have all the medicines from years ago. I can speak in tongues - I would be nuts to fake it & then believe based on that.
aaroncohen 3 months ago
@aaroncohen The same wife who starves herself for 123 days?
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg Yes. It's just as you implied: If you had empirical of G-d's existence, and the right religion, you would go all out for Him and be fanatical as well. I don't think the Bible is without error, but even if most of it was wrong, I can still speak in tongues, which means the Holy Spirit exists, and Jesus is still on the throne. Obviously, just because we have proof of G-d's existence, doesn't mean you do. Faith is the first act of love to God, because you are risking everything for Him.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen I don’t think you understand what empirical evidence actually means, or what it may show. Sure you might be talking in tongues, but how do I know you are not making it up, delusional, or mistaken? What evidence do you have the speaking in tongues can only be caused by the god of the Bible? Could it be caused by aliens or another god? How do you know it is not? EVIDENCE please.
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg I understand what it means. I addressed that when I said "just because we have proof of G-d's existence, doesn't mean you do." I am not saying you should believe based on our experience, but criticizing those who believe isn't correct. There is no evidence any human can see that can not be questioned as being from aliens, etc. Even if someone grew back an arm on video, you could say "how do we know aliens didn't do that?" If an angel or G-d Himself came down, you could claim "aliens".
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen OK, good. We have established that your experiences do not count as evidence for me. This rules out all subjective experiences (by definition) leaving only those things which can be objectively verified. Can you supply any objective evidence demonstrating your god exists (and it could not possibly be an alien, as you point out)?
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg "Can you supply any objective evidence demonstrating your god exists (and it could not possibly be an alien, as you point out)?" I've already said this is an impossibility, and your "informed decision" statement makes it illogical. I said, If G-d were to provide empirical evidence on live tv, everyone would know, negating faith as an act of love. To your question, "Why do you care what I think?" I could ask the same thing of you, but I believe we both know the answers to the questions.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen Faith (belief in something without any evidence) is an act of love? How many other things do you beleive without any evidence - that is, on faith alone?
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg Islam, Mormonism, Budhism, Confucionism, nonMessianic Judaism etc. have virtually no claims of miraculous healings from G-d and speaking in tongues. I know this isn't empirical, but it is further evidence that Chrisianity is the true religion. I know the difference between emotions and the spiritual. When I feel G-d's presence it is far different than chemicals running from my brain through my body to create an emotional feeling. All I've said below are resonable points for my belief.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen I am not worried about these other religions - disproving them does not make your correct. That is not the way evidence works.
A thought experiment for you - if I were to inject exactly the right quantities of the various chemicals involved, could I invoke the emotional feelings you allude to above? If so, doesn’t this anchor your emotions in physical reality where no god is required?
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg Again, "informed decisions about probabilities." It would be a huge coincidence that only one religion has millions of claims of healings and supernatural occurances while all other religions have virtually none, combined, for that one not to be the correct one. G-d's presence doesn't feel like emotions, it feels like something coming from outside of you into you. So that would be like asking,"Could I inject the right chemicals to make you think someone was tapping you on your shoulder?"
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen "Millions of CLAIMED healings" - that should tell you a lot.
A feeling (by definition) is internal. Yes - you can cause the sensation of being tapped on the shoulder without actually tapping you on the shoulder. Nerve impluses are simply nerves being excited.
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg Even if you were an amputee, and I prayed for you in person to be healed and speak in tongues and your leg grew back instantly and you could speak in tongues, questioning your own experience with, "Could aliens or a different god have done these things for me?" would still be possible. If you died and went to heaven, you could ask, "How do I know aliens aren't in my mind, making me hallucinate this?" It always takes faith. Yes, we could be lying or delusional, but we know we are not.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen Here you are trying to escape Descartes “brain in a box” scenario which I agree cannot be done. However, this is not the kind of faith we are referring to when dealing with claims about religion and gods. The brain in a box points out that we cannot know anything with absolute certainty, but this does not mean we cannot make informed decisions about probabilities of various entities existing. There seems to be little evidence for a “god”.
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg I disagree, because my evidence is not subjective to me. However, this begs the question, "Why doesn't G-d just prove Himself to all humans?" If He did, we would be like angels, who have no risk in believing in G-d because they see Him. G-d already has billions of angels. He wanted beings who would have to show Him dedication by risking their entire existense by believing in Him, before they knew for sure if He was even real. This is a reason He allows pain; to let us to prove our love.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen I disagree, because my evidence is not subjective to me."
If your experience is only evidence to you, it is by definition subjective. You cannot demonstrate it to me and I cannot verify it. Why should your experiences impress me?
"G-d already has billions of angels."
Another claim without evidence.
".. show Him dedication by risking their entire existense by believing in Him, before they knew for sure if He was even real."
So he wants gullible people?
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg
If the evidence is experienced by only one or two individuals, then it is objective to them, though not necessarily to anyone else.
"G-d already has billions of angels.
Another claim without evidence."
That's stating the obvious. It was an attempt at posturing a rational explanation as to why God doesn't perform verifiable miracles on camera for the whole world to see.
"So he wants gullible people?"
That's occasionally what it takes to experience any miracle for yourself.
aaroncohen 3 weeks ago
@aaroncohen Individuals may have what they think are objective experiences, but we now know enough about the human mind to recognise it can be fooled - and rather easily. How can anyone tell someone else’s delusion from reality? For that matter, how can we be sure our perceptions and interpretations are accurate?
I do not think I want to believe in a god who requires gullibility as a prerequisite.
askegg 3 weeks ago
@askegg Yea, she could have been healed by aliens, another god or her own mind. However, she was healed in church while praying to Yeshua after tying hundreds of times.I received speaking in tongues while praying to the Holy Spirit. For us to believe the timing was just coincidence would take more faith than believing aliens or anything else did it, also nonsensical. Proving that God exists is just as impossible as proving he doesn't, because there can always be alternative crazy explanations.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen "Yea, she could have been healed by aliens, another god or her own mind. However, she was healed in church while praying to Yeshua after tying hundreds of times.”
Where is happened does not rule out the previous possibilities you listed.
"Proving that God exists is just as impossible as proving he doesn’t.”
So why are you seeking to prove your god exists to me? Why do you care what I think?
askegg 2 months ago
@askegg I came here to learn about your "conversion" to athiesm, not to prove my G-d exists to you. I disagreed with your implication that all believers weren't intelligent, critically thinking, or were deceived "sheep." I am attempting to explain the reason for my own faith. You say, "Where it happened doesn't rule out the other possibilities." You also say, "we can make informed decisions about probabilties" - contradictory. Since her healing was instant, this was an informed decision for US.
aaroncohen 2 months ago
@aaroncohen " I disagreed with your implication that all believers weren't intelligent, critically thinking, or were deceived "sheep"
I have never said that - you're lying.
askegg 2 months ago
You said, "As an adult, it's either a habit or you don't give it any thought." Also, on my wife's video, you said, "Why should anyone respect (religion?)" If I misinterpreted these statements as implying what I stated above, it was my mistake, my apologies,but I certainly had no intention of lying.
aaroncohen 3 weeks ago
@aaroncohen That is very admirable. I must say, I am rather impressed you have engaged someone who is highly critical of their wife’s actions. You are a stand up guy.
askegg 3 weeks ago
This is how single minded christians are, you say stop but they won't, but if you read the bible you can come to no other conclusion, religion is made up to control the masses through fear and the tax free dollars are a nice little touch. When will christians learn. When when will the bullying stop. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
@TheDano1947 More power to you.
askegg 4 months ago
@askegg I see myself more as a RETIRED/RECOVERING CATHOLIC and not so much an atheist. According tot the dictionary, an theist is one who does not believe in god, the assumption is that god exist. A theist in the other hand is one who believes in a god or gods, assumption, god might exist and his name might be Annu or Ra or Zeus or Jawe or Jehovah or non of the above and humanity might just be an experiment for some unknown reason.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
@TheDano1947 @askegg I see myself more as a RETIRED/RECOVERING CATHOLIC and not so much an atheist. According tot the dictionary, an atheist is one who does not believe in god, the assumption is that god exist. A theist in the other hand is one who believes in a god or gods, assumption, god might exist and his name might be Annu or Ra or Zeus or Jawe or Jehovah or non of the above and humanity might just be an experiment for some unknown reason.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
@TheDano1947 "According tot the dictionary, an atheist is one who does not believe in god, the assumption is that god exist.”
Yeah. That would be a bad definition. It is sufficient to not believe a god exists, rather than thinking one might and concluding atheists deny the possibility.
askegg 4 months ago
@askegg To the contrary, many people have doubts about the existence of a supreme being and some of them are agnostics. That you believe is, of course, your right. Imposing that belief on others, however, is not. That is the fascist nature of religion. Convert or die or suffer the torment of the damned. Non believers would remain silent if believers would only keep their belief tho themselves.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
I too read the whole bible and I too rejected it but christians feel the need to guilt you back in so I'm on a crusade to demolish every argument for religion. I have a devout catholic sister, whom I love dearly but we disagree on religion but she won't let up. I tell her I don't believe but she says she'll pray for me and that really irritates me. It's like if she prays for me I will suddenly see the light but it's been 51 years and this is not a crises of faith. My faith died 52 years ago.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
I love it! Thank you for putting it so plainly in text. It expresses my similar thoughts. I have to agree with everything you say.
zannadyke 4 months ago
This is a good video, but I disagree that killing for any reason is wrong.
mynameisjonas45 4 months ago
@mynameisjonas45 I have changed my mind on that.
askegg 4 months ago
It seems like your theology was very poor!
raponte1955 5 months ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 5 months ago
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GOD, HEAVEN, AND SEX: Internet article examines the Biblical possibility of sex in heaven. Human sexuality isn't just for reproduction. There are reasons the Bible requires marriage for sex on earth, but those reasons won't exist in heaven. Scripture teaches, in heaven, we'll be like the angels only in one sense - no marriage, but we won't be like angels in every other way (i.e. Bible says we'll enjoy food and drink). Psalm 16:11 says there will be great spiritual joy and pleasures in heaven.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 5 months ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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WHAT ABOUT THE STARS? Gravity explains how the order found in the precise courses of trillions of stars is maintained, but gravity can't explain the origin of that order! Did all the trillions stars agree to get out of each others way? C'mon! Disorder in the universe is because of chance, but the order is because of design. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a living cell. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument for a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed in design or useless.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from variations produced having survival value. It doesn't produce variations. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of transitional forms and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discusses mixed species in fossils (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum conveniently ignored by evolutionists).
Mogley52 5 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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NOT ALL EVOLUTIONISTS even agree on the fossils used to support and reconstruct human evolution. The bones are incomplete. There's no certainty of the bones belonging to the same creature. They can reconstruct whatever they want from these bones, and they have. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read my article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE
Mogley52 5 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 5 months ago
I was a Christian for the last twenty years or so, and I feel as elated to be free of religion today as I was to find Jesus then. Now when i look back I feel foolish for believing in such nonsense. I can't understand how I could have felt so strongly about something that I see so plainly as absurd now. The only drawback so far is death seems a little scarier. I'm always up for a debate with those who haven't woke up yet:)
skinnydog131 5 months ago
@marshallbx5a You also have the problem with Paul. What he wrote, and he allegedly lived at the same time as Jesus, directly contradicts the gospels accounts. This is, in large part, ignored by Christians and the church. I know. I was in seminary until I began bringing up issues I was finding and was instructed to overlook them and use faith. If the bible is the inspired word of god it should at least agree with itself, should it not? Or is god trying to trick us?
SpecialEdAllstar 6 months ago
@marshallbx5a The cornerstones on which the bible makes it claims of authority are deeply flawed. The bible is quite clearly written by men. Men who claim they were 'inspired' by god. Yet there is no test for this claim of divine inspiration. The bible exists as it does because of the selective readership of church founders. The OT was included to increase legitimacy among the Jews. The NT was slapped together - hundreds of years later - by a council with clear goals and agendas.
SpecialEdAllstar 6 months ago
@marshallbx5a In 1 Corinthians 2, Paul admitted that he had no clever arguments for his religious views except the 'evidence' of God’s power to change lives with the gospel - which is not evidence at all as it is purely subjective. If someone cleans up their act after 'accepting' christ - it is because they made the choices themselves and they put the effort into the task. Maybe the fear Christianity relies on helps motivate them, but there is no divine intervention whatsoever.
SpecialEdAllstar 6 months ago
@marshallbx5a Before you claim "well he is lacking in faith then" I have to go back to no amputees have ever had limbs miraculously grow back. Do amputees somehow lack the prerequisite faith to attain a healing? Interesting that you bring up ancient documents in reference to Jesus. No documents ever mention his existence, at all, until hundreds of years after he supposedly lived. Paul thought his Jesus lived in the distant past or in another world. Why the deafening lack of evidence?
SpecialEdAllstar 6 months ago
@marshallbx5a Are you saying that you had surgery or did not have surgery? They way you phrased things is a bit confusing as its one long run on sentence. It appears to indicate that you were almost deaf, had surgery, and are now healed.
I will ask you this question: what does god have against amputees? Never, in all of recorded medical history, has an amputee had a limb grow back. Does god hate amputees? I know a christian who has been praying for his feet to grow back for 15 years. Nothing.
SpecialEdAllstar 6 months ago
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Do you believe there is life after this one?
robertmarc1 7 months ago
'quite the magic trick for the universe to have created itself."
unbelievable that an intelligent being did the same magic trick purpose.
1. The universe even had a beginning, let alone was created.
2. That intelligence can exist without first having to learn.
3. for god to make the universe he would have to be more complex himself?
4. god was all ways,he would have to make us out of himself
no god devil no start no end of the universe no up down right wrong good evil no space no time(all 1)
IMINTHEMOMENTRU 8 months ago
I'm on the fence with religion now. Man has now successfully made the most important parts of a cell such as the synthetic ribosomes, man has also replicated the conditions that were present during the early formation of life which made over 25 amino acids the building blocks of life. They have made proto-cells from scratch. Scientist are saying that they are only a year or so from making a fully functional synthetic cell. If that happens I think it might be the death blow to religion.
akkadianarab 8 months ago
@akkadianarab I do not think the creation of synthetic cells will be the end of religion or people's wooly belief in "god".
askegg 8 months ago
@askegg No they will just step a little closer and test us on how the big bang happened and after that is sorted out they will keep testing and testing its a never ending loop hole i don't want to say i hate religion but seeing what it does to our species makes it hostile to us and needs to be dismantlement as fast as we can the sooner the better.
tjinga2u1 6 months ago
@akkadianarab umm even if this was accomplished...the other planets and stars and earth itself dint just apear...ther are hundreds of things that sientist cant explain and dont know where to start..if they learn to make a planet that mocks earths creation call me up and we will talk
MirandaMadigan 7 months ago
Try talk about Islam instead of Christian..Islam kill most people who don't believe their god..
dtwldaniel 8 months ago
@dtwldaniel That does not make it any less ridiculous than any other religion, just more terrifying.
askegg 8 months ago 5
@dtwldaniel ever read the old testament? ur god pretty much killed non believers in the name of "love and justice" hes not much different from jihadist
124punkrock 6 months ago
wow, this guy need islam to guide him. he's so lost.
RihamRouge 8 months ago
@RihamRouge Wow so you want him to turn women into second class citizens?
firevortex500 8 months ago
@firevortex500 no, the exact opposite ;) i know that he doesn't want to turn women into second class citizens, that's why he left christianity ;D i'm a woman, i'm a muslim, and i have SO MANY rights. you have no idea.. go study islam..
RihamRouge 8 months ago
@RihamRouge
Oh really? The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:
. . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . . . (Sayyid Abul A'La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, vol. 1, p. 165)
firevortex500 8 months ago
@RihamRouge The Quran in Sura 4:11 says:
The share of the male shall be twice that of a female . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 311)
firevortex500 8 months ago
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@RihamRouge A woman's testimony counts half of a man's testimony.
The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:
And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 205).
firevortex500 8 months ago
@RihamRouge I've read the quran AND the bible. I'm not impressed with either. I'm all aware about taquiyya (lying to nonmuslims to spread your religion) and how islam goal for peace is issuing worldwide shariah law. How about the duty for you to kill nonmuslims whenever you find them? That'sin there too. I'm also aware of your pedophile prophet who married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her at 9. I refuse to follow a prophet who was a pedophile and so violent.
firevortex500 8 months ago
@firevortex500 again, your comment showed me that you have no idea about islam. kill nonmuslims whenever you find them? so you didn't know that islam tells you that killing (muslim/nonmuslim) is the one of the biggest sins ever? that killing only one person is like killing all the people? i'm a muslim and my best friend is a nonmuslim, and i don't think about killing her?! why? because my religion tells me not to. and i completely follow islam.
foxnews is not the quran.
RihamRouge 8 months ago
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@RihamRouge Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
There ya go. Why don't you try justifying that?
firevortex500 8 months ago
Wonderful video! Thank you! I so with it were true that you were raised a Christian and were a Christian and then converted. But somehow I don't :(
LordN3mrod 8 months ago
Wonderful video! Thank you! I so with it were true that you were raised a Christian and were a Christian and then converted. But somehow I don't :(
LordN3mrod 8 months ago
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Hello Guyz
I think ISLAM is the True. you can read 'Quran' and u cant find any error. BUT here is some wrong translation. so u can also see this Video 'Is Quran Gods Word - Dr zakir naik' you can find more DR ZAKIR NAIKs videos :D I hope u will find the true religion. If ur hindu you can also see 'similarity between hinduism and islam-Dr zakir naik' and if ur Christian u can see 'similarity between christianity and islam' and if ur Atheist you can see 'is the god exist-dr zakir naik'
12345678989884 9 months ago
I will always believe that we have a God...one God. but I will never make believe I know our God's ways because of a book written by who knows who. Children suffer with cancer while killers live to be a hundred. There is no rime or reason for this and I'm not going to make believe there is. There is a God buddie but I can in no way say what God can and can not do. I do believe that real love never ends and that helps me sleep better at night.
robertmarc1 9 months ago
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850Nexus 9 months ago
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marshallbx5a 9 months ago
@marshallbx5a One of the great mistakes you made was not to read the description.
askegg 9 months ago 2
You don't have to be that kind of Christianity to be a Christian. In fact, Orthodox Christians would say that the kind of faith you are fighting is heretical. You may prefer theological positions that predate modernity (Coptic, Easter Orthodoxy), or more recently radical orthodoxy, and weak theology. They are more atheist than atheists, in that their idea of God demolishes ideas of God in both the theist and atheist camps.
brooss 9 months ago
nice lite video :o) did you feel betrade after you realised the bibel was totaly retarded. i did. to bad so many good ppl dont see it the way you did. take care and enoy life :o)
sommer84 9 months ago
@sommer84 Not really. I felt light a light had been turned on. The world was brighter and I could see everything with much more clarity. It all made sense and it was wondrous.
askegg 9 months ago 2
@askegg I saw your entire video. Start to end. I tried to put myself in your shoes and see what it would've been like. Overall, I have to say I'm not convinced with your reasoning. All of them. I will only take one example: You say "But if you going to ignore the bits you don't like, how do you decide which bits are good?" Seriously? Why would you ever change the "true word"? Yes, some churches r, but YOU should know better. 2+2=4. Not 3, not 5. That is just one ex. I wish I cud enlighten u more
Instilinachange1 8 months ago
@Instilinachange1 You are assuming the Bible (among the many holy texts available) is god's "true word". What makes you think this is the case?
askegg 8 months ago
@Instilinachange1 If the bible is true and you feel you shouldn't change any of it (i.e. you like all the bits and think they are good) then why don't we still own slaves; stone our children; kill unbelievers. The point in the video is that the church "ignores" these "bits". I find it hard to believe in a diety that would condone this behavior. And I might know right from wrong but why would I be in a religion that obviously doesn't.
2000bluecrow 8 months ago
@2000bluecrow Something tells me deep inside that you are not asking this question to ridicule the religion, but are seriously inquisitive. I respect that. I really do. I'm no expert but all I can say is the Bible provides a framework for how people should live. You say that you know right from wrong. Based on that assumption, if the Bible says you should help a fellow human being, what do your morals say? Most of the Bible teachings are morally correct. People overlook them and focus onthebad
Instilinachange1 8 months ago
@Instilinachange1 You talk as if christianity has a monopoly on morality. People from ALL faiths do good things. The golden rule was here waaay before Christianity or any other religion.
firevortex500 8 months ago
@firevortex500 Answer me this: When did I say people of other faiths are wrong? If something "seems" to you that I'm implying, then you might as well not post on here.
Instilinachange1 7 months ago
re·li·gion
[ri-lij-uhn]
-noun
Thoughts can kill ... and they do.
Hoganply 9 months ago
I admit the archaic lexis (biblical quotes) is very romantic-sounding and ethereal but … just remember: it is only a text. With his way with words, Shakespeare is no less penetrating or admirable to me … and this just makes me feel wonderful about humanity’s natural (I must stress, inherently secular in the absence of the divine) and wonderful abilities we, as glorious creatures of the earth, behold – again (not stressed enough) without “his” empirically provable presence.
Hoganply 9 months ago
Why do “believers” need to kill heathens (in crusades, etc) if God sends them to hell anyway? How do you justify that? “Thought shall not kill” – unless, of course, it suits your (not empirically provable) faith/cause.
Hoganply 9 months ago
Great video! By the way everyone.... GOD ISN'T REAL!
KenM66 9 months ago
A strong and honest video my friend, faved and thumbed.
Zhippy 9 months ago
As an atheist, I would say this a very little charitable portrayal of religion.
pelafustanes 9 months ago
help me! i am dependent upon a higher power, i can't do it on my own...what do i do?
joneyedoc 10 months ago
No! Think!
For instance our foods r ruined, still we try to eat fine.
To live a meaningful life humans must satisfy both their physical and spiritual needs_ Matthew4:4; 5:3
Would it not be a mistake to reject even Truth because falsehood is highly flowing around? As counterfeit money, false religion has no real value but not the ‘True One’. Seek 'IT'!
To properly meet our 'spiritual need', we must heed the Bible counsel in Ephesians5:10 "Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord"
plptous 10 months ago
When I became an Atheist, the concept of Hell ceased to torment me. These days I cannot imagine living under fear of the conjurations of demented, sick, ancient men with a hatred for anyone who was actually happy and free.
tikiduck 10 months ago
If there was a God, it would be sick for him to make a person, have that person do bad things, tell his other followers to kill this person in his name, then send that person to hell after death. If God could do anything, he could abolish death, suffering, doubt and non-belief. But he doesn't. Hmm...interesting.
Player5813 10 months ago
The fact that you find God offensive merely underscores that you are in darkness. If God was a fairy tale as you imply then truly you would ignore it like you ignore real fairy tales, but when you love evil, you hate truth and light.
Even God's word says men will call evil good and call good evil.
imbiased 10 months ago
@imbiased "Even God's word says men will call evil good and call good evil."
God's word also says to murder your unruly children and include people picking up sticks on the sabbath. God's word also recommends how to beat your slaves properly. God's word is filled with malevolent acts and you ignore them because of religious bias.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
Lemme get this straight:
If you were born as an atheist, you would have become religious, am I correct?
Awesomeoneofawesome 10 months ago
why does god hide.
billbo1154 10 months ago
the cruesades lasted 700 years!
billbo1154 10 months ago
i wonder if people who say anyone who walks away from christianity was never a follower in the first place would accuse the disciples that walked away from jesus of the same thing. see, this is what happens when you EDUCATE your self, and this is why theism is anti-education. they want you to learn what they want you to learn and anything beyond that is 'of the devil'... remember luther? the one who said logic is of the devil? well, i'd rather be logical and devilish than emotional and insane
GodsArePeopleToo 10 months ago
you were never a christian. the New Testament says that any "believer" that falls away from their faith was never a follower in the first place.
withperfecttiming 10 months ago
@withperfecttiming and this is true..because it was written down in a book...
RobDZeppelin 10 months ago
@RobDZeppelin REAL ORIGINAL! i've never heard that one before! seriously! get a new line, atheists! plus, you probably think i'm a Christian. Real Christians walk the walk. I wish I could say i did.
withperfecttiming 10 months ago
@withperfecttiming Doesn't matter if my last comment was used millions of times before or has been just used now.
RobDZeppelin 10 months ago
@RobDZeppelin Based on your other comments, I can not tell if you are religious or not. You seem to flip back and forth between sarcasm and seriousness. But if you argument is that God is real because it was written in a book, then you have to also accept that magic and superheros are real, because they too are written about in books.
samalamas12345 10 months ago
@samalamas12345 no, i was be sarcastic lol
RobDZeppelin 10 months ago
you never had a relationship with God. No person that has had a real intimate relationship with Jesus Christ could TRULY ever call themselves atheist.
withperfecttiming 10 months ago
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Hoady101 10 months ago
@Raxatlix So i take it you have never had sex for fun, only to produce your children. Yes? Beleive it or not, homosexuality is very NATURAL. Apes, dolfins, panguins, dogs, and several other species have gay or lesbian intercourse and relationships. If you say that a panguin, human, dog, ect, is going to burn in hell for all eternity because he/she is gay, then YOU are the idiot my friend! nuff said.
TheEmja1995 10 months ago
@TheEmja1995 cannibalism in some animal species is common. "nuff said" And WTF ? i posted like a year ago !
Raxatlix 10 months ago
@Raxatlix Cannibalism was common in humans as well and those wafers and juice are suppose to be the body and blood of christ. A symbol of cannibalism? So can I insert nuff said here?
bigsubwayman1 10 months ago
@bigsubwayman1 I dont know about you, but i dont eat people. And the body of christ is a metaphor numbnuts.
Raxatlix 10 months ago
@Raxatlix So your saying none of that is true right? Its just a metaphor and nothing more right? Then I am proud to be called numbnuts, question is what do we call all you bible thumpers. Better yet what should we call all of you that take the wafer and juice as the body and blood of christ? Fakers? Wanna be cannibals? The whole thing is ridiculous. I think the question posted to you had to do with sex. Your response is cannibalism? Just answer the question that was asked. Nuff said?
bigsubwayman1 10 months ago
@bigsubwayman1 ah... i give up. If some1 doesnt want to understand, he never will. If bashing religion makes u feel "progressive", go ahead.
Raxatlix 10 months ago