Mahler: Symphony No. 7: Mov. 5 - Part 1 of 2

[Rasterius]

way to slow

[mahler19110]

In the score, it is written as a slur. Standard performance practice is to play it as a slur (which this trumpet player does). Part of the technique for performing high notes on the trumpet involves raising the tongue. Many method books state that the player should say "whee" to aid in proper tongue placement. Sounds like this poor fellow just quite didn't move his tongue quickly enough, and got a sound reminiscent of a jazz lead player. An actual gliss would have sounded quite different.

[Gunnifunz]

I've just been to Vienna listening to Mahler 7 in the Musikvereinssaal. Wiener Symphoniker. An amazing performance led by Lothar Zagrosek. And the Viennese are the worst audience one could imagine. The first left after movement 2. And after the unbelievable 5th movement about 30 per cent of the audience just left without even bothering to applaud ... . I was devastated. Did they do that sort of thing in the days of Karajan and Bernstein too, I wonder?

[malaniz41]

I love it :D Oh how i miss playing concert music !!!!

[mesondehimiko]

Isn't this play a half note higher than the score? It sounds very weird to me. Is it because of the change of playing speed of the video??

[parmat88]

@mesondehimiko Actually the Vienna Philharmonic plays with a much higher pitch than other orchestras...

[telephilia]

I believe it was Simon Rattle who called this symphony, "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride." Never more true than for this finale.

[jazzydrums95]

Who cares if its a slur or glissando?!?!?!

It sounds awesome, everybody agrees, THE END.

[pointreyes6]

The end of this movement and the end of this symphony is my favourite of all Mahler's endings, that suspension is amazing!!!

[TrumpetmanBerni]

Who was principal trumpet in this recording?

[parmat88]

@TrumpetmanBerni The solo trumpet was Walter Singer. The assistant was Josef Pomberger.

[sparrough]

They use six horns while Berliner Philharmoniker uses only four. They're definately not as cool, but damn it sounds good!

[maximegagne1]

Surely one the of the most horrible thing that Mahler had wrote.

[iter68]

0:52 the conductor was so happy like a kid.

[jahi5]

jsteuermol it can be either a slur or a glissando

diffreant conductors and people call it diffrent things

it is very hard to tell for trumpet

[freshhh1994]

must be painful sitting in front of the trumpets

[JC5268]

I really love the horns hahaah espc for the beginning =]]]]]

[JC5268]

I LOVE THIS

espc the horns and the trumpets

the trumpets did a marvellous and perfect job on the high-C at the beginning =]

and the other brasses are reli good at tonguing as well, and the whole orchestra is so neat and tightly-knotted -- as if played by one single person.

and I dont think the trumpets are playing too staccato... @@

[TheKevinV08]

I don't necessarily like the trumpets on this one... they're playing way too staccato, and it sounds like they have a sFz on every note...

[TFreckle]

@TheKevinV08 That's because they have a sFz on every note!

[ThaSchwab]

Q: Who doesn't like Mahler 7?

A: A lot of people :(

[mahlermahlermahler1]

Oh, I like that trumpet glissando up to the C in the very beginning.

[wynton5364]

yes, totally great on trumpets, very elegant. Check out Mahler 7of Hatink with Berlin Philharmonikar on youtube, which is also great.

[cellofellow1223]

@mahlermahlermahler1 So fucking awesome! I LOOOOVE mahler 7! And I'm playing it with an orchestra right now! bassoon III :P

[jsteuernol]

@mahlermahlermahler1

It's called a slur... not a glissando.

[jahi5]

@jsteuernol it can bbe ither a slur or a glissando

diffrent condutors or band directors or people call it diffrent things

plus it is very hard to tell ecspecially on trumpet

[jsteuernol]

@jahi5

Go look at the trumpet part in the score; you will see that a slur is indicated, and not a glissando.

It's not hard to tell; you're just uneducated. I've played this trumpet excerpt numerous times. It's an octave slur from C5 to C6.

If a trumpet player were to gliss. from C5 to C6 for this excerpt, any orchestra director in their right mind would have the trumpet player shot on the spot.

[simonofhell]

@jsteuernol You, sir, are a douchebag.

[laundrymunkey1414]

@jsteuernol is a glissando even possible on trumpet?

[jsteuernol]

@laundrymunkey1414

Yes.

[mortalfrog0815]

@laundrymunkey1414 he didn't mean an actual glissando, he's talking about lip-slurs! a real glissando is not possible an the trumpet

[fjfjrfjfjr]

@mortalfrog0815 A glissando is possible on the trumpet. One must push the valves down half way. You can hear this is jazz all the time.

[mortalfrog0815]

@fjfjrfjfjr yeah, that's right but i'm austrian and was thinking of rotary trumpets.

[fjfjrfjfjr]

@mortalfrog0815 Yes, still possible on a rotary. Same effect. My rotary trumpet is a Ricco Kuhn.....made in Germany.

Of course in Mahler 7 there is no glissando written.... Even the octave slurs are sometimes treated like legato passages, if the player is a bit tired by the end of the symphony.

[jahi5]

@mahlermahlermahler1 it kinda does sound like a glissando :D

[chumanho]

3:01 Lenny Leap!

[atralfalgar]

Totally amazing !