Metrolink Hyundai Rotem Cars - 12/16/10

[trainsforever8]

They look like DMUs!

[singwith]

@trainsforever8 Really? 

[trainsforever8]

@singwith To me they visually do,but that's prolly cause of the cab car~

[northlanderdude]

the coaches aren't bad, the cab end could look better.

Metrolink trains aren't that long for L.A.

Toronto GO Trains are 10 or 12 cars long.

[Pompadour123]

eww i hate f40ph on metrolink

[EMDSD14R]

i got 2 question's why do they have 2 units on a 3 car train?..are these cars heavyer then the bombadier ones?...nice shot of the f59ph's...i like those units...cool vid!!

[Neno8403]

The cab car looks somewhat similar to a P42 in design, but the P40/P42s are generally very attractive... these cars look like crap Euro railcars aka ugly! To this day, my favorite bilevel commuter rail cars are the Kawasaki cars that MARC uses.

[singwith]

@Neno8403 did not know that MARC use the kawasaki.

[bnsfwarbonnet]

@Neno8403 i like the budds metra uses

[vietmaster3945]

@Neno8403 Amen to that.

[mab102599]

Two engines to pull 4 passenger cars is ridiculous.

[sideslide23]

I love the new Rotem cars, the cab cars looks more like the Locomotive than a car itsself I love how they design the cab cars, Great work Hyundai.

[CALTRAIN4000]

Love that Engine

[AmtrakBoys]

Cool! it kind-of looks like a P42 in cabcar form

[singwith]

@AmtrakBoys Thanks!

[UNIONPACIFIC9199]

Tresspassers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Intransitman]

Well a problem with cars like that is that it limits operation, I know DB uses cab cars like that in Germany too. Though they have an interesting gallery car look to them.

[moonwalker5058]

Were the Rotem Rail cars being tested this day or are they on active duty?

[singwith]

@moonwalker5058 They introduced the train to the OC people.

[simhopp]

According to Hyundai Rotem web site, Hyundai will be building total of 137 cars for LA, 24 for Florida, 120 for Pensilvania, 75 for Boston, and 50 for Denver.

most of which will be built at the Philadelphia factory.

Hyundai Rotem is also bidding for High Speed Rail contracts in USA.

[singwith]

@simhopp cool. it's sad to see none of the US passenger systems are made in USA by 2020? lol

[Roboboy]

@simhopp Great for American industry (though profiting an international corporation)...I just wish their aesthetics were more sleek like Alstom, Bombardier, and Kawasaki and less cheap-car-from-Korea...

[simhopp]

@Roboboy

well, you can't blame Hyundai for the exterior design.

It's not like Metrolink purchased stock Hyundai design, as they did with the previous

Canadian built metrolink cars.

If you look at all the Hyundai trains that were ever built, none of them looks anything

even close to these metrolink cars.

Hyundai probably built these cars according to Metrolink's design.

Hyundai can make any shape that the buyer demands, slick and lots

of curves if the buyer wants that.

[Roboboy]

@simhopp Indeed, rollingstock manufacturers often built-to-suit, but they do often bring along their own design aesthetics. I also don't know of many orders where a specific design from the customer is requested outside of re-orders, like what the MBTA is currently requesting of Hyundai-Rotem for the new bilevels that will be identical to current stock.

Did Tri-Rail make the order with Metrolink or something? Their new cab car looks identical.

[JetMechMA]

@Roboboy How is a foreign made rail car operating in America "Great for American industry"? You got me on that one. I don't see anything great about it.

[Roboboy]

@JetMechMA sorry, I was working on the assumption that the majority of the construction would be stateside, per Buy America regs in US Code 49 § 5323, but apparently only final assembly will be happening stateside. Apparently the order got less than $100m from the feds, so USC49 §5323 does not apply. I'm from the East Coast where transit orders are usually considerably larger and are usually governed by that provision.

[JetMechMA]

@simhopp We may as well give America away to foreign interests. I assume that the Hyundai factory in PA is anti-union. ....which means low wages. Low wages can't sustain the US economy. The cuirrent republican economic depression proves that. They were successful in busting the unions. There are hardly any unionized workers any more.....and consequently the economy collapsed. That's republicanism.....anti-America­n. Yeah, lets jump up and down and cheer the foreign rail cars.

[trainman1971]

@JetMechMA

The Philadelphia Hyundai-Rotem plant is union now; workers are represented by the Transport Workers Union. But it took a court fight (which Rotem lost) to get them firmly in. Negotiations for the first contract are ongoing.

[JetMechMA]

@trainman1971 Good for them....really. I wish them luck. Thanks for the info. Thanks very much.

[trainman1971]

@JetMechMA

You're welcome.  I hope the Silverliner V cars currently under construction and delivery for SEPTA can overcome their teething pains. I wonder how well the Metrolink cars have been performing so far....

[Railhead1956]

Nice

[singwith]

@Railhead1956 Thanks!

[xtremepadrefan]

nice catch with # 800

[singwith]

@xtremepadrefan Thanks!

[Coasterrider210]

defiantly want to ride these

[108Robcatt]

The3 Hyundai rail cars look smart. Are they new?

[singwith]

@108Robcatt yes, those are new.

[k5lta]

i love the P42 style,you can't stop it unless you have a few billion dollars,so just except them ok hehehahaha.

[singwith]

@k5lta hmmm, I don't think it look like a P42.

[k5lta]

i meant the look is flat just like the p42s lol

[BonesCentralRR]

The coaches look pretty nice, but that rat with wings (seagull) looks so much better than the cab car lol! Anyway, nice video! I really liked the station action!

[singwith]

@BonesCentralRR Thanks!

[Transit159]

what kind of camera do you use?

[singwith]

@Transit159 I have a sanyo CG102.

[railfan101]

Not the prettiest things in the world, but hopefully the safest things as well. But why does the last car look like a p42, that's what I wanna know lol.

[singwith]

@railfan101 Hmmm, do you really think the cab car look like a P42?

[railfan101]

@singwith Well, like another user said, it has that similar sloped look like a P42. It just has an uncanny resmblence to me and other railfans lol.

[mstsme]

I am sorry to say Those cars look Fugley.PS good video

[Tracksider216]

@mstsme If you didn't speak up, then I would have. haha :P

[singwith]

@mstsme Thanks!

[justkiddin08]

Nice catch.

[singwith]

@justkiddin08 Thanks!

[murjax]

Nice catch. Was this a test run or are those cars already in service?

[singwith]

@murjax Thanks & yes.

[GISALICIOUS]

Nice video!

[singwith]

@GISALICIOUS Thanks!

[AmtrakSurfliner768]

Great catches! Loved that triple meet!

Were those cars running the OC line?

[singwith]

@AmtrakSurfliner768 Thanks.  Yes, I caught it the return trip from Santa Ana.

[singwith]

@AmtrakSurfliner768 oh, you mean, the 800? yes, it headed to Irvine, CA.