this is amazing orchestration. I would love to see da score. amazing sonorities and this is how the worl d is this is how it soundsd in 1969 or when h was writing it.If u cant get past Mahler and Debussy i just feeeel sorry 4 u!.
Wow. Hard music for 3 orchestras. Must've been really friggin' hard. If so, these guys are sure as hell doing a great job with it. Do you perchance have the rest of this with you?
'At random', you say? If you listen closely, you'll notice a very tight structure to it that your 18th Century-inclined ears are unused to. Just because it sounds random doesn't necessarily mean it is random.
"Just music"?! I hear what you're saying but I think music is one of the most amazing things we have. Electronics, mathematics, music - there aren't many things as beautiful. Some but not many 8^)
Yes, I am very impressed by the serious work done, the engagement of the musicians and the will to give a satisfactory interpretation of this work - all this merits great respect...but as a listener, all I hear is a jumble of noises! I think one of the chief problems with modern music is that the composers indulge a lot into all sorts of intellectual entanglings that are all very interesting for them themselves, and start to forget the listener over it.
Understandable, except this is a rehearsal of a piece for three orchestras, recorded on a digital camera with a crappy little microphone and crappy visual resolution which could never in a billion years recreate the experience of actually sitting in the middle of this musical universe, for a full performance. That's the reason people would come from all over Europe to hear it.
Modern life drama abstrahized. Refreshingly compressed. Like 5 minutes in a traffic jam without the pollution although there's a hint of pollution already. Comparisons to other centuries' compositions are tedious. No electricity available back then, no penicillin. Roll over Beethoven, let Karl-Heinz tell the News!
clever name, archiemeadies. rubbish? you got the right to call it and leave it at that, though most truly new stuff has been called rubbish. how long a listen have you given this music, really?
I actually studied this stuff for two years at Glasgow University as part of my MA course. At that time I considered it to be a con, the equivalent of unmade beds and piles of dirty laundry masquerading as art in the Tate. I thought I'd give it another listen to see if I've changed my opinion.
Your reply's crisp, and certainly more extensive than your previous characterization. Often people will give this and alot of modern music a cursory listen and cavalierly dismiss it. I thought you were one of those know-nothing-wanna-be's. It's that impulse that I object to, though I would never mention Stockhausen's or Cage's name in the breath as Beethoven, Mozart or even Berg or Stravinsky. Thanks for replying and stay smart.
loving this awesome clip! boulez...wow! one of the original conductors of gruppen, along with bruno maderna and stockhausen himself... may his music and legacy live forever- a beautiful thinker, and that's an understatement.
If you like Stockhausen, you might want to look up Krzystof Penderecki: Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima, Flourences for Orchestra so on, also check on George Crumb(Black Angels), John Cage, Daniel Lentz(song of the Sirens)or look up the pioneers of the field such as: Arnold Schoenberg, Albin Berg, Anton Webern and Igor Stravinsky.
Whoever marked shakinjamaican101's comment as spam surely did it by accident. That's the only possible explanation I can find for it having been marked as such.
this part is. haha.. it's the big tutti 4/4 section in the middle, there's a big drum solo, a huge brass band section.. all kindsa shit. gonna post more soon.
this is amazing orchestration. I would love to see da score. amazing sonorities and this is how the worl d is this is how it soundsd in 1969 or when h was writing it.If u cant get past Mahler and Debussy i just feeeel sorry 4 u!.
lovesGenet 10 months ago
Ah, wish they play my music!
trees1 1 year ago
nun möchte ja nicht rum nervern aber bin ziemlich einsam wer hat lust zu schreibn
aleidaschechter52 1 year ago
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Ear Terror!!
aggrorulz 2 years ago
To the ear of a simian like yourself, perhaps. To the ear of an educated connoisseur, Stockhausen = Genius.
SirJonathanTavener 2 years ago
laurion69 is handicapped, so sad :(
gnubboleso 3 years ago 9
Aww! Cut off right before the great piano entrance!!
piargno 3 years ago
Wow. Hard music for 3 orchestras. Must've been really friggin' hard. If so, these guys are sure as hell doing a great job with it. Do you perchance have the rest of this with you?
HerrWozzeck 3 years ago
The famous "spinning chords" occur at 1:25
metalbucket2 3 years ago
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Notes at random.
It is simply a crap.
laurion69 3 years ago
its foolish to think that because something does not follow conventional methods of organization that it is random.
merkular 3 years ago
'At random', you say? If you listen closely, you'll notice a very tight structure to it that your 18th Century-inclined ears are unused to. Just because it sounds random doesn't necessarily mean it is random.
HerrWozzeck 3 years ago 2
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A mathematical music is not necessarily nice and fine.
Try to do a composition as cross-words with and see...
Stockhausen convinced all you that this kind of music, adiabaitc music, has beauty just because has any abstruse mathematical structure.
laurion69 3 years ago
You're right.
Maddy4Me 2 years ago
Yes, quite similar to your genetic crap - although the music is genius, your genes are shit. Thanks for making that so obvious you moronic ape.
Now go hang from your favorite tree, pick your ass, and please, leave room for a banana.
SirJonathanTavener 2 years ago
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Stockhausen was a poor fool, who composed a huge quantity of non-sense music.
laurion69 2 years ago
Wow, you're STILL at this?
DannyDaWriter 2 years ago
Damn- right before the piano cadenza!
pawdaw 3 years ago
i can send you the recording if you want
chickenringNYC 3 years ago
"Just music"?! I hear what you're saying but I think music is one of the most amazing things we have. Electronics, mathematics, music - there aren't many things as beautiful. Some but not many 8^)
HD41117 3 years ago
Agreed HD, although I'm two months out of step on this one. It is not JUST music.. it IS just music.
chickenringNYC 3 years ago
If you like experiment in music, just try TACUARA NOD, available on youtube
uhj4 3 years ago
Ay, es ni más ni menos que el senior don Pierre
acteon00 3 years ago
Yes, I am very impressed by the serious work done, the engagement of the musicians and the will to give a satisfactory interpretation of this work - all this merits great respect...but as a listener, all I hear is a jumble of noises! I think one of the chief problems with modern music is that the composers indulge a lot into all sorts of intellectual entanglings that are all very interesting for them themselves, and start to forget the listener over it.
48montblanc07 3 years ago
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You hit the nail on the head montblanc.
AlexMcgeryMusic 3 years ago
Understandable, except this is a rehearsal of a piece for three orchestras, recorded on a digital camera with a crappy little microphone and crappy visual resolution which could never in a billion years recreate the experience of actually sitting in the middle of this musical universe, for a full performance. That's the reason people would come from all over Europe to hear it.
chickenringNYC 3 years ago
What a piece! I'm saving up for the recording, but what I've heard is very impressive.
JeeRant 3 years ago
Modern life drama abstrahized. Refreshingly compressed. Like 5 minutes in a traffic jam without the pollution although there's a hint of pollution already. Comparisons to other centuries' compositions are tedious. No electricity available back then, no penicillin. Roll over Beethoven, let Karl-Heinz tell the News!
PyePye7 4 years ago
very good filming
sinatraandaerosmith 4 years ago
LoL..
chickenringNYC 4 years ago
Rubbish.
ArchieMeadies 4 years ago
clever name, archiemeadies. rubbish? you got the right to call it and leave it at that, though most truly new stuff has been called rubbish. how long a listen have you given this music, really?
pkt171 4 years ago 3
pkt171-
I actually studied this stuff for two years at Glasgow University as part of my MA course. At that time I considered it to be a con, the equivalent of unmade beds and piles of dirty laundry masquerading as art in the Tate. I thought I'd give it another listen to see if I've changed my opinion.
I haven't.
ArchieMeadies 4 years ago
Your reply's crisp, and certainly more extensive than your previous characterization. Often people will give this and alot of modern music a cursory listen and cavalierly dismiss it. I thought you were one of those know-nothing-wanna-be's. It's that impulse that I object to, though I would never mention Stockhausen's or Cage's name in the breath as Beethoven, Mozart or even Berg or Stravinsky. Thanks for replying and stay smart.
pkt171 4 years ago
pkt171-
Thank you.
ArchieMeadies 4 years ago
Stockhausen died on the same day as Mozart:
5th December. A divine intimation, one might say, of the GODHEAD marking out those he has chosen to embody his voice on earth!
BambosNeophytou 4 years ago
If the GODHEAD was responsible for these unfortunate terminations, one might equally assume that the GODHEAD was something less than a fan of music.
supineny 4 years ago
Someone's talking out of his GODARSE I think.
pw3uk 4 years ago
Who are the conductors? One would seem to be Pierre Boulez.
dahpunkt 4 years ago
pierre boulez, jean deroyer, and peter eotvos
chickenringNYC 4 years ago
loving this awesome clip! boulez...wow! one of the original conductors of gruppen, along with bruno maderna and stockhausen himself... may his music and legacy live forever- a beautiful thinker, and that's an understatement.
Fv3Qtrs 4 years ago 2
Nice. Stockhausen good and strange.
thedistinctroom 4 years ago
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If you like Stockhausen, you might want to look up Krzystof Penderecki: Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima, Flourences for Orchestra so on, also check on George Crumb(Black Angels), John Cage, Daniel Lentz(song of the Sirens)or look up the pioneers of the field such as: Arnold Schoenberg, Albin Berg, Anton Webern and Igor Stravinsky.
shakinjamaican101 4 years ago 2
Whoever marked shakinjamaican101's comment as spam surely did it by accident. That's the only possible explanation I can find for it having been marked as such.
48montblanc07 3 years ago
It's all in 4/4 hahahaha!
phunktify 4 years ago
this part is. haha.. it's the big tutti 4/4 section in the middle, there's a big drum solo, a huge brass band section.. all kindsa shit. gonna post more soon.
chickenringNYC 4 years ago
Du hast keine Ahnung von Gruppen! und wie komplex das zeitgschitlich übereinandergelagert ist (die 3 Gruppen) Also schweige lieber!!
composer86 4 years ago
Mille Grazie, very Brave to do this work,
herma57 4 years ago