Is this rambling seriously taken as anything but complete and utter bullshit ? It feels very similar to a scientology lecture. Of course the Muslims will strongly deny it bares any resemblance. Why... why do all the "religious great minds" inevitably expose themselves to lack a tremendous understanding of current ideologies in science? This guy is just an over glorified mouthpiece for “god of the gaps” rationale. *why?" are you fucking kidding ?
This man knows more than you. This is part of a 3 hour + long speech. I am sure if you had an opportunity to ask him a question he would very easily refute any silly beliefs that you have.
@ghostandgoblins Your reaction is very typical of that of an ignorant uncomprehending mind. I have listened to some of the best speakers/theologians but very few come close to this man in depth and insight and cohesion of argument. Although born a Muslim, I strayed from the faith in my teens and explored many other faith-systems including Zen Budism. This man has been instrumental in finding my way back to the truth. May we all be guided closer to the truth...
sufism is basically any muslim who focus MOSTLY on the spiritual side of islam- WHILE ignoring the world, this is usually done for self purifaction. But what happens some people who are ignorant go to far as shirk. So anyone including you could be a sufi by that definition.
@207112351 2 youtube channels debunk the Quran's 'scientific miracles', and the creed of Islam check them out; therationalizer and CEMBadmins. I'd also advise you to check out the channels theramintrees and evid3nc3 for general well-presented, respectful, and insightful critiques of religion in general. I'm an apostate BTW.
Why would a universal theory give academics more access to God? And I dont think its any persons place to say what he thinks Allah may or may not reveal to people. We allready have 2 theorys that explain evrything in terms of "how". We just dont have 1 universal theory. And like sheikh said the theory would be limited to describing how and not why, so personally im hopeful sum1 will crack the universal theory(not principle). Much respect to sheikh, just disagree on yhis point.
someone respond please. Is this guy a sufi? I remember him talking about how apostasy does not warrant death in dar al islam and at that point I knew something was fishy, then I realised he is a sufi? Whats going on?
@qwertypluss most sunni muslims who are inspired by Imam Ghazali are slightly sufi meaning they are careful of shirk yet indulge in islamic singing n nasheeds, in the west more slightly liberal islam is welcomed more then strict wahabism, though those that follow ibn taimiyyahs thought process or the saudi arabic endorsed Wahabi islam strictly dont like any kind of singing n dancing n are very strict :)
Sufis are not the first ones who say apostasy doesn't warrant death. There are Shafi'i scholars to my knowledge that have come to the same conclusion. In fact, as it's not a Quranic Law, and the Hadithic sources for apostate death are a stretch (in other words, they are applied far out of context, i.e. ridda wars) I'd say there is no punishment for Apostasy in this world. Just Damnation in the next. after all, how'd they come back to Islam (which many do) if we kill them?
@Arabman666 Never heard of any Shafi'i scholars who have said that, please link me. Also YOU'd say there's no punishment? Sorry to be blunt, but I don't care what you think, I care about what the Hadith says and I will follow it. I don't follow a particular school, I just follow the Qur'an and Sunnah. IT just causes more fitnah. Also isn't 666 the number of Shaytan?
666 is the number of talons of Gold Solomon in the Book of Kings, from the Old Testament. 666 is Cryptic extra-biblical Christian mistranslation meaning the Devil. How can you possibly be someone who is against Bidah, if you believe 666 is the number of the Shaytan. Thanks for the personal attack.
There is no single Hadith in Bukhari or Muslim (not sure about the rest) that directly prescribes death for apostates (if that is their only crime).
However, there are two types of Sufism. Sufi "religious" conviction though the group of people officially parading around as "Masters" with hidden knowledge is a school unto it's own.
Sufism as a philosophy (peace, meditation, ect.) is already in Islam, and thus, some choose to say they have the Sufi philosophic ideas influencing their actions.
Shaykh Abdul hakim murad is most probably the best western muslim writer ive known next to Nuh ha mim keller, read any of his books especially on al ghazali, I heard from a reliable source that shaykh hamza yusuf said 'what takes me one year to do takes shaykh abdul hakim murad 6 months to do' subhanAllah
If this is not the final destination then death, in one form or another, must take the lives of human beings. I would rather believe in a revelation that tells me that intelligence created intelligence and that consciousness created consciousness than the prospect that NO intelligence producing intelligence and NO consciousness producing consciousness. Now who believes in mumbo jumbo jonjoe. What's the matter, were you bullied as a child and now your venting your anger for it towards God?
75 trillion cells in the human body, each cell with billions of components, the gravitational constant so precise it boggles the mind (maybe not yours) & yet, after all this consideration and unimaginable prowess, this universe that popped itself into being so miraculously, forgot to resolve floods from occurring earthquakes from erupting etc Theists dont believe this is the final destination, if they did your argument would equate to more than it is, fecal matter. Death is part of this reality.
can't anybody hack these lectures and upload them for us, I fell so disappointed that a group of people are making profits out of these lectures, knowledge should be free to access to everyone especially Islamic knowledge,
It does, he quoted verses FROM the Qur'an, using the Qur'anic vocabulary and reflecting upon its verses, since the Qur'an is there to be contemplated and understood. He is interpreting and commenting upon selected verses. This is called Tafsir.
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How does Tim know what Allah's will is?
You know Tim, you are as mad as a bee in a banjo. What glorious mumbo jumbo you speak. You display such grand spiritual materialism its a joy to behold. Should've been a football writer like your brother. Does he still talk to you?
Reminiscent of a schizophrenic in that there is no overall sense in his ramblings. Works on the sheep though
I would even say that Allah cant know "his" Will either. Allah is the "Greatest Deceiver" of all deceivers. I think "he" has deceived "himself" into existence. Eternaly suffering from self-deception. However paradoxically that might sound...
@jonjoe1000 HAHAHA you're just showing your ignorant. English is not the only language in the world, and he had translated the arabic to english if you paid attention to the lecture. Tim has traveled around the world to gain his knowledge. and you go no where, yet you're trying to prove something from nothing. once again you are no more than an ignorant. face it dude
@insaneselagalas Tim has no knowledge other than mumbo jumbo. The whole of Islam is based upon unverifiable myth and hearsay. Tim is an expert on mumbo jumbo. Islam is exceedingly banal. Much more so than the other religious cults based on their own version of mumbo jumbo. Therefore Tim is an expert on nothing of any real value. The whole of Islam is a myth given life by casualties like you and lost 'expert ' children like Tim and other 'experts' on 'nothing of any value.' ha ha ha etc etc
@MrGrandDragon And you like Tim, by mystical mumbo jumbo.?
At times in Tim's mystical rambling performance he drifts off into complete gibberish. Hardly surprising really. Showbiz mysticism is a tough game and his foundations are built of mumbo jumbo. You are young, only nineteen, you have a long way to go. Don't be impressed by the likes of rambling Tim Rumpo, you may end up as lost as him performing mystical cabaret for gullible seekers of something more essential than Tim has to offer
@funkyfaz55 You imagine yourself to be intelligent because you are bedazzled by Tim's sincerely delivered Mumbo jumbo. You need intelligence to see through this pure gibberish and mumbo jumbo. Tim is as phony as Mohammed was. Islam does not create rounded people. Learn to doubt . Oh sorry you can't can you? You are a simple minded Muslim for whom doubt is not allowed. Not you fault really. Islam is such a banal cult for the feeble minded to follow and get lost in. I mean look at Tim. He's lost
@jonjoe1000 HAHAHAHA, just shows what you know. i suggest you need a History Lesson. Modern Culture and Science is BUILT on Islam. Without the muslims there would be no modern science. go and do your own research on this.
I actuallu have TWO Degrees, so stop your rubbish.
Simple minded muslim, you really are a fool. Islam Does not create rounded people. you really are an idiot
@funkyfaz55 Islam is empty cultist mumbo jumbo. You are a fool with two degrees. Tim is a lost fool with a doctorate. A doctor of Mumbo jumbo. The notion that modern science was built on Islam is the most laughable piece of propaganda I've ever heard. Get on your flying horse and fly back to your fantasy.
@funkyfaz55 Do some history yourself. Islam inherited the science it claims from the cultures it conquered, The biggest contribution it made to algebra which already existed in ancient Babylon and India was to give it a name. The medical knowledge Islam claimed came from the Greeks. The camera obscura it claims also existed in in ancient Babylon. Islam loves to make claims for itself as a matter of pride as in fact you do with your two degrees. What are they, wood work and media studies?
@jonjoe1000 These are not claims. OFCOURSE science existed before, but if you knew anything you would know the Contribution Muslims have made to Science, AND ITS MASSIVE. without that Contribution many would agree that Modern Science would not come into being. and this has been said by NON MUSLIMS. do you want the evidence? i can point you to the right place.
You Would not Know about Greeks if it was not for Muslims. They translated Greek Knowledge.
@funkyfaz55 "The biggest contribution it made to algebra WHICH ALREADY EXISTED in ancient Babylon and India was to give it a NAME
Is there any part of this statement you don't understand? Islam loves its mythology. The whole of Islam is a Myth. All based upon the myth that some guy said he spoke to a god. That's it. That is Islam. Islamic mythology claims contribution to science because it is so utterly banal and ridiculous that myths of its 'greatness' are all it has left.
funkyfaz55 You seem to fail to understand the indisputable fact that Islamic civilisation would simply not have existed without Greek civilisation first.
@funkyfaz55 suggest you improve your education to three degrees and study the nature and foundations of Mythologies, how they work, how they begin and how they sustain. No one has any proof that Mo spoke to a god. No one has any proof that Mr. God exists. Study creation mythologies first then move on to charismatics who employ mythologies to deceive and manipulate the feeble minded who because their pride leads them to boast of their two degrees also fails to reveal their educational inadequacy.
@funkyfaz55 If you understood nature you wouldn't need the myths-of Islam to sustain you. It is not up to me to prove something which doesn't exist - the onus is upon you to prove it does. You are the one who believes in mumbo jumbo not me. You need a third degree in phenomenology. Possibly a fourth in How not to be a dupe of arcane mythology. Your mind is not sound if you believe in flying horses Jinns demons devils, witches, the efficacy of camel's urine and life after death. U R deluded
@funkyfaz55 Funky you'd best stick to Prince and pop music. There is no point. If you believe the Mumbo jumbo in the Koran you'll believe anything. You aren't interested in truth only belief. Truth and belief are not the same things. If you see the Koran as truth then that's the half arsed "truth" you deserve. Pity the Children of Islam. The truth of Islam is this: its first victims are Muslims. You are the believer, you prove the mumbo jumbo. The Koran proves only your gullibility.
@funkyfaz55 I see your Mr. God has had a couple of busy days causing floods and wiping out innocents by the thousands in Pakistan.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
so fitra is the innate calling in man that calls to God....like the man says, all cultures give expression to this fitra. People of innersight 'al-bab' are there in all religions...not just muslims...zhikr is universal and comes in many forms...Ghandi, Buddha, Jesus...AMH says God is just, not tribal - no ONE religion has the monopoly on truth.
I do not believe that is what he says. I am fairly sure he is an Ashari scholar, and that is most definitely not the Ashari position. He is not a perennialist.
I saw Abdul Hakim Murad give a talk on the History of Muslims in Britain in Birmingham 7 years ago. The audience was comprised of normal people like me and with the old fasioned Maulvi's from India and Pakistan. AHM's talk given in his very old fashioned tone was informative and more informative to the lay person than the rant and rave of the Maulvi's who followed him screaming a message which was slightly more pointless.
Muslims of the world need more people like him to lead a enlightenment.
@Rocktapper screaming?? what do you mean? what were they saying? What does "talk given in his very old fashioned tone " mean? what are you trying to say?
I think he means when our scholars were real scholar well verse in mantiq, the classics (Fareduddin Attar, Gulestan, Bustan), Fiqah, usul-e-fiqah, and so on, and had better handle on mubahisa/mukalama (and were not populist rabble rousers), they used to sound like Sheikh Murad
Hm. So the God that has 'power over all things' could not create a viable universe according to different physical laws and constants? That seems to render God's power very much finite, no?
Order in the universe? From defective genes at the level of DNA to the inevitable collision of the Andromeda Galaxy with our own. Is this the work of an omniscient and omnipotent God?
It seems that the apparent 'perfection' of the 'creation' demands the loosest possible understanding of that word.
So a person who was born with no arms and legs, if they complained about that fact, would simply be ungrateful?
The problem is, many among the religious say that the 'teleology' (design) of existence proves a God and yet when flaws in the so-called design are made evident they simply assume that the Creator has good reasons for it.
67:3 "You do not see in the Compassionate Ones creation, of these or of other things, any irregularity, any disparity or discordance." - Jalalayn
I thought that the Islamic notion of Qadr meant that there really was no free will in Islam?
Although, I think there's an example given in the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir of a man who converted to Islam at the behest of Muhammad and yet Allah did not wish for him to convert.
Interesting that everything should be pre-determined and yet some things will happen that God doesn't want.
Reverse transcriptase makes many mistakes while copying DNA strand from an RNA template. You see it as a flaw in the perfection of enzyme, I see it as a perfection of design to create an enzyme that creates mutations.
Nevertheless, it remains the case that things like genetic mutations and other natural phenomena are double-edged swords.
It's a fact that most mutations are detrimental to the organism that they affect, and many of them are lethal. It is not likely that an omnibenevolent being would permit such a state of affairs if it resulted in illnesses like progeria or neurofibromatosis.
You can't just look at what's good and ignore what's bad.
"Perfection of design" that in one way or another would become the cause of 99,99% ever living species becoming extinct? Putting it very mildly, thats strange...
It's not Allah's will that academics should have privileged access to him. Unfortunately, many people are implying this when they discourage Ijtihad, and philosophy while claiming that true answers must come from great arabic ulamas and scholars. Questioning their non logic doctrines often leaves u with an accusation of disbelief.
However, allowing yourself perspective on questions often makes it easier to see the answers. Its a shame people tend to not see the wood because of all the trees...
We are also told not to accept information without verifying ourselves that it is true.
On Judgement day some unlucky people are going to say "Our Lord, we have obeyed our masters and leaders, but they led us astray."
"The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the MAJORITY of people, they will take you away from the path of God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think."
What constitutes a verification of truth? It is assumed that one does not treat the Sha'riah lightly, for a decision upon it can decide one's existence, therefore when is it that one can say that they know enough to make rulings?
How many of those who advocate Istijihad have anything like the knowledge of a Mujtahid? Do they speak the Arabic of the Qu'ran, do they know it in its entirety? Or all of those hadith on a subject?
Rarely, rather most trust to their own whims and call it 'reason'.
The Hadith were transmitted in the same way as the Qu'ran, in fact some of them have more separate chains of transmission than the Qu'ran itself. Thus they can not be called 'conjecture'.
Intelligence is defined (in the Qu'ran and Hadith both) as worshipping Allah and staying upon the right path. I would personally not feel comfortable exalting my own intelligence as being capable of interpreting God's words in a unique way.
this guy is awesome. he makes it easy to understand the complex arguments by being able to talk to both the great minds as a peer and in simple terms for more humble intellects like myself.
He's speaking from knowledge .....and that remark about whatever remains [however little, deviated, masked, spoiled by time] of the "knowledge" from other civilisations is most pertinent ...
clearly typical "English lecturer" .... I love this true Muslim scholar
Is this rambling seriously taken as anything but complete and utter bullshit ? It feels very similar to a scientology lecture. Of course the Muslims will strongly deny it bares any resemblance. Why... why do all the "religious great minds" inevitably expose themselves to lack a tremendous understanding of current ideologies in science? This guy is just an over glorified mouthpiece for “god of the gaps” rationale. *why?" are you fucking kidding ?
ghostandgoblins 3 months ago
@ghostandgoblins
This man knows more than you. This is part of a 3 hour + long speech. I am sure if you had an opportunity to ask him a question he would very easily refute any silly beliefs that you have.
MrGrandDragon 3 months ago 5
@ghostandgoblins Your reaction is very typical of that of an ignorant uncomprehending mind. I have listened to some of the best speakers/theologians but very few come close to this man in depth and insight and cohesion of argument. Although born a Muslim, I strayed from the faith in my teens and explored many other faith-systems including Zen Budism. This man has been instrumental in finding my way back to the truth. May we all be guided closer to the truth...
Faisal0729 2 months ago
sufism is basically any muslim who focus MOSTLY on the spiritual side of islam- WHILE ignoring the world, this is usually done for self purifaction. But what happens some people who are ignorant go to far as shirk. So anyone including you could be a sufi by that definition.
thinker6236 6 months ago
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thinker6236 6 months ago
myth slaves.... the invisible man is watching you... hahahahahah rubbish....
Ianjcarroll 6 months ago
@Ianjcarroll He isn't invisible and he isn't a man.
benotignorant1 1 month ago
Mashallah, amazing, the first lecture I've seen for him, I will surely see more :)
207112351 7 months ago 7
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@207112351 2 youtube channels debunk the Quran's 'scientific miracles', and the creed of Islam check them out; therationalizer and CEMBadmins. I'd also advise you to check out the channels theramintrees and evid3nc3 for general well-presented, respectful, and insightful critiques of religion in general. I'm an apostate BTW.
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bilalmahmoud2009 9 months ago
Why would a universal theory give academics more access to God? And I dont think its any persons place to say what he thinks Allah may or may not reveal to people. We allready have 2 theorys that explain evrything in terms of "how". We just dont have 1 universal theory. And like sheikh said the theory would be limited to describing how and not why, so personally im hopeful sum1 will crack the universal theory(not principle). Much respect to sheikh, just disagree on yhis point.
fqforever 11 months ago
someone respond please. Is this guy a sufi? I remember him talking about how apostasy does not warrant death in dar al islam and at that point I knew something was fishy, then I realised he is a sufi? Whats going on?
qwertypluss 1 year ago
@qwertypluss most sunni muslims who are inspired by Imam Ghazali are slightly sufi meaning they are careful of shirk yet indulge in islamic singing n nasheeds, in the west more slightly liberal islam is welcomed more then strict wahabism, though those that follow ibn taimiyyahs thought process or the saudi arabic endorsed Wahabi islam strictly dont like any kind of singing n dancing n are very strict :)
salam
MrRuggedboy27 11 months ago
@MrRuggedboy27 I think the Saudi "Wahabbi" (but that word everyone hates) is more closer to islam than the liberal islam which is full of sickness.
qwertypluss 11 months ago
@qwertypluss u can continue thinking that way salam
MrRuggedboy27 11 months ago
@qwertypluss
Sufis are not the first ones who say apostasy doesn't warrant death. There are Shafi'i scholars to my knowledge that have come to the same conclusion. In fact, as it's not a Quranic Law, and the Hadithic sources for apostate death are a stretch (in other words, they are applied far out of context, i.e. ridda wars) I'd say there is no punishment for Apostasy in this world. Just Damnation in the next. after all, how'd they come back to Islam (which many do) if we kill them?
Arabman666 11 months ago
@Arabman666 Never heard of any Shafi'i scholars who have said that, please link me. Also YOU'd say there's no punishment? Sorry to be blunt, but I don't care what you think, I care about what the Hadith says and I will follow it. I don't follow a particular school, I just follow the Qur'an and Sunnah. IT just causes more fitnah. Also isn't 666 the number of Shaytan?
qwertypluss 11 months ago
@qwertypluss
Quite crass, aren't we?
666 is the number of talons of Gold Solomon in the Book of Kings, from the Old Testament. 666 is Cryptic extra-biblical Christian mistranslation meaning the Devil. How can you possibly be someone who is against Bidah, if you believe 666 is the number of the Shaytan. Thanks for the personal attack.
There is no single Hadith in Bukhari or Muslim (not sure about the rest) that directly prescribes death for apostates (if that is their only crime).
salam
Arabman666 11 months ago
@qwertypluss
talons of Gold Solomon has dominion over**
Arabman666 11 months ago
@Arabman666 Sufi's are among Shafi'i, Maliki, Hanbali and Hanafi schools of thought. They are people who follow those schools brother.
OfficialShyBoyTV 10 months ago
@OfficialShyBoyTV
I'm aware.
However, there are two types of Sufism. Sufi "religious" conviction though the group of people officially parading around as "Masters" with hidden knowledge is a school unto it's own.
Sufism as a philosophy (peace, meditation, ect.) is already in Islam, and thus, some choose to say they have the Sufi philosophic ideas influencing their actions.
However, Abdul Hakim Murad is not a Sufi.
Arabman666 10 months ago
@Arabman666 hey i was wondering if you could tell me more specifically what your definition of a sufi is
jayyy689 3 months ago
Shaykh Abdul hakim murad is most probably the best western muslim writer ive known next to Nuh ha mim keller, read any of his books especially on al ghazali, I heard from a reliable source that shaykh hamza yusuf said 'what takes me one year to do takes shaykh abdul hakim murad 6 months to do' subhanAllah
18744cal 1 year ago
thanks for the video. AH Murad is one of the most brilliant scholar of our time.
maslam0000tube 1 year ago
he meant 1 to 10 to 50
MatrixOfDynamism 1 year ago
Sunnis and Shias are one. Its the United States Govt and israel that fans hatred using proxy slaves like saudi and egypt
Our Book is One Our Kaaba is One Our Allah is one Our Holy Prophet is One
STOP listening to preachers of hate whether they are sunni in name or shia in name
Unity is a must
rational1512 1 year ago
excellent video post, thank you.
NPderive 1 year ago
If this is not the final destination then death, in one form or another, must take the lives of human beings. I would rather believe in a revelation that tells me that intelligence created intelligence and that consciousness created consciousness than the prospect that NO intelligence producing intelligence and NO consciousness producing consciousness. Now who believes in mumbo jumbo jonjoe. What's the matter, were you bullied as a child and now your venting your anger for it towards God?
SocialScruples 1 year ago
75 trillion cells in the human body, each cell with billions of components, the gravitational constant so precise it boggles the mind (maybe not yours) & yet, after all this consideration and unimaginable prowess, this universe that popped itself into being so miraculously, forgot to resolve floods from occurring earthquakes from erupting etc Theists dont believe this is the final destination, if they did your argument would equate to more than it is, fecal matter. Death is part of this reality.
SocialScruples 1 year ago
we love u in ALLAH
assoom26 1 year ago
Absolutely splendid.
This was really enlightening, and well presented. :)
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Salamwamat 1 year ago
can't anybody hack these lectures and upload them for us, I fell so disappointed that a group of people are making profits out of these lectures, knowledge should be free to access to everyone especially Islamic knowledge,
HAGROOS 1 year ago
There's sense in some of what Tim says, but it's got nothing to do with Islam.
tigerbaiter1 1 year ago
what a delusion you are in
qas86 1 year ago
@tigerbaiter1
It does, he quoted verses FROM the Qur'an, using the Qur'anic vocabulary and reflecting upon its verses, since the Qur'an is there to be contemplated and understood. He is interpreting and commenting upon selected verses. This is called Tafsir.
MrGrandDragon 1 year ago
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How does Tim know what Allah's will is?
You know Tim, you are as mad as a bee in a banjo. What glorious mumbo jumbo you speak. You display such grand spiritual materialism its a joy to behold. Should've been a football writer like your brother. Does he still talk to you?
Reminiscent of a schizophrenic in that there is no overall sense in his ramblings. Works on the sheep though
Lala Illalahla Tinky Winky, Dipsy and Po. Ameen
jonjoe1000 2 years ago
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@jonjoe1000
Ultimately he cant know (Allahs Will).
I would even say that Allah cant know "his" Will either. Allah is the "Greatest Deceiver" of all deceivers. I think "he" has deceived "himself" into existence. Eternaly suffering from self-deception. However paradoxically that might sound...
pikechris1 2 years ago
@jonjoe1000 HAHAHA you're just showing your ignorant. English is not the only language in the world, and he had translated the arabic to english if you paid attention to the lecture. Tim has traveled around the world to gain his knowledge. and you go no where, yet you're trying to prove something from nothing. once again you are no more than an ignorant. face it dude
insaneselagalas 1 year ago
@insaneselagalas Tim has no knowledge other than mumbo jumbo. The whole of Islam is based upon unverifiable myth and hearsay. Tim is an expert on mumbo jumbo. Islam is exceedingly banal. Much more so than the other religious cults based on their own version of mumbo jumbo. Therefore Tim is an expert on nothing of any real value. The whole of Islam is a myth given life by casualties like you and lost 'expert ' children like Tim and other 'experts' on 'nothing of any value.' ha ha ha etc etc
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000
Sadly you have been repeatedly seduced and used by the biggest prostitute there has ever been, the temporal world
MrGrandDragon 1 year ago
@MrGrandDragon And you like Tim, by mystical mumbo jumbo.?
At times in Tim's mystical rambling performance he drifts off into complete gibberish. Hardly surprising really. Showbiz mysticism is a tough game and his foundations are built of mumbo jumbo. You are young, only nineteen, you have a long way to go. Don't be impressed by the likes of rambling Tim Rumpo, you may end up as lost as him performing mystical cabaret for gullible seekers of something more essential than Tim has to offer
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 maybe this goes over your Head. it takes intelligence to understand intelligence!!!!
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 You imagine yourself to be intelligent because you are bedazzled by Tim's sincerely delivered Mumbo jumbo. You need intelligence to see through this pure gibberish and mumbo jumbo. Tim is as phony as Mohammed was. Islam does not create rounded people. Learn to doubt . Oh sorry you can't can you? You are a simple minded Muslim for whom doubt is not allowed. Not you fault really. Islam is such a banal cult for the feeble minded to follow and get lost in. I mean look at Tim. He's lost
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 HAHAHAHA, just shows what you know. i suggest you need a History Lesson. Modern Culture and Science is BUILT on Islam. Without the muslims there would be no modern science. go and do your own research on this.
I actuallu have TWO Degrees, so stop your rubbish.
Simple minded muslim, you really are a fool. Islam Does not create rounded people. you really are an idiot
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 Islam is empty cultist mumbo jumbo. You are a fool with two degrees. Tim is a lost fool with a doctorate. A doctor of Mumbo jumbo. The notion that modern science was built on Islam is the most laughable piece of propaganda I've ever heard. Get on your flying horse and fly back to your fantasy.
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 Do some history yourself. Islam inherited the science it claims from the cultures it conquered, The biggest contribution it made to algebra which already existed in ancient Babylon and India was to give it a name. The medical knowledge Islam claimed came from the Greeks. The camera obscura it claims also existed in in ancient Babylon. Islam loves to make claims for itself as a matter of pride as in fact you do with your two degrees. What are they, wood work and media studies?
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 These are not claims. OFCOURSE science existed before, but if you knew anything you would know the Contribution Muslims have made to Science, AND ITS MASSIVE. without that Contribution many would agree that Modern Science would not come into being. and this has been said by NON MUSLIMS. do you want the evidence? i can point you to the right place.
You Would not Know about Greeks if it was not for Muslims. They translated Greek Knowledge.
ALGERBRA is ARABIC.....you fool.
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 "The biggest contribution it made to algebra WHICH ALREADY EXISTED in ancient Babylon and India was to give it a NAME
Is there any part of this statement you don't understand? Islam loves its mythology. The whole of Islam is a Myth. All based upon the myth that some guy said he spoke to a god. That's it. That is Islam. Islamic mythology claims contribution to science because it is so utterly banal and ridiculous that myths of its 'greatness' are all it has left.
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
funkyfaz55 You seem to fail to understand the indisputable fact that Islamic civilisation would simply not have existed without Greek civilisation first.
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 HAHAHAHHAAH. that is the most Stupid comment i have ever read. HAHAHAHAAHA. sorry have to laugh again AHAHAHAHAAHA.
its so stupid it does not deserve a full response.
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 what i don't understand is how someone can be so stupid.
Islam is a Myth......What can of stupid comment is That. i would discuss this with you but i don't think you're capable of understanding
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 suggest you improve your education to three degrees and study the nature and foundations of Mythologies, how they work, how they begin and how they sustain. No one has any proof that Mo spoke to a god. No one has any proof that Mr. God exists. Study creation mythologies first then move on to charismatics who employ mythologies to deceive and manipulate the feeble minded who because their pride leads them to boast of their two degrees also fails to reveal their educational inadequacy.
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 it's not for me to Prove God exists. There's Proof all around in Nature, the Quran is Proof Enough.
BUT its for you to Prove God Does Not exist.
Thats your Challenge......if you're good Enough.
My Mind is Sound. Who Cares about Mythologies. I Deal With Reality. Which is Islam is the Truth.
its for you to disprove this
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 If you understood nature you wouldn't need the myths-of Islam to sustain you. It is not up to me to prove something which doesn't exist - the onus is upon you to prove it does. You are the one who believes in mumbo jumbo not me. You need a third degree in phenomenology. Possibly a fourth in How not to be a dupe of arcane mythology. Your mind is not sound if you believe in flying horses Jinns demons devils, witches, the efficacy of camel's urine and life after death. U R deluded
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@jonjoe1000 well...my Proof is the Quran. You would see the evidence if you were capable.
Thats proof. u say its not for you to disprove...i would suggest thats cos you cannot disprove the Existence of God.
there are many proofs that God exists.
again just give ONE bit of evidence. even Scientists now believe in some form of 'Design'.
thats Proof for you. Scientists now conceed that there's Design in the Universe.
whats ur answer to that? and where's ur proof of no God?
funkyfaz55 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 Funky you'd best stick to Prince and pop music. There is no point. If you believe the Mumbo jumbo in the Koran you'll believe anything. You aren't interested in truth only belief. Truth and belief are not the same things. If you see the Koran as truth then that's the half arsed "truth" you deserve. Pity the Children of Islam. The truth of Islam is this: its first victims are Muslims. You are the believer, you prove the mumbo jumbo. The Koran proves only your gullibility.
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
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jonjoe1000 1 year ago
@funkyfaz55 I see your Mr. God has had a couple of busy days causing floods and wiping out innocents by the thousands in Pakistan.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Epicurus ( a Greek)
jonjoe1000 1 year ago
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Doesn't mumbo jumbo sound plausible in arabic?
Still mumbo jumbo though
jonjoe1000 2 years ago
sorry, don't want to be pedantic. 10 to the power of minus 50
generalzeedot 2 years ago
who cares, Its the point he is dealing with you should be concentrating on rather than hanging for the scraps, you joke.
quantumsufi 2 years ago
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Zdrazy 2 years ago
no, 1 to the power of 50 assumes 1x10^50. Its a short way of saying it.
harmonicamajor 2 years ago
awesome.
harmonicamajor 2 years ago
does adel hakim murad works in some organisation ? like irf with dr zakir or is he by himself .
pinero91 2 years ago
I believe he's at Cambridge University...don't know much more about him....
sam7748 2 years ago
thanks sam7748
pinero91 2 years ago
He's a lecturer at Cambridge University.
awesomewelles90 2 years ago
so fitra is the innate calling in man that calls to God....like the man says, all cultures give expression to this fitra. People of innersight 'al-bab' are there in all religions...not just muslims...zhikr is universal and comes in many forms...Ghandi, Buddha, Jesus...AMH says God is just, not tribal - no ONE religion has the monopoly on truth.
jahangiro 2 years ago
fitra is a state of Islam... people of other religions have perverted it or changed it, though fitra is never completely lost.
sshoaib786 2 years ago
quran is the truth
Quran1Sunna2 2 years ago
I do not believe that is what he says. I am fairly sure he is an Ashari scholar, and that is most definitely not the Ashari position. He is not a perennialist.
SalehUddin1986 2 years ago
I saw Abdul Hakim Murad give a talk on the History of Muslims in Britain in Birmingham 7 years ago. The audience was comprised of normal people like me and with the old fasioned Maulvi's from India and Pakistan. AHM's talk given in his very old fashioned tone was informative and more informative to the lay person than the rant and rave of the Maulvi's who followed him screaming a message which was slightly more pointless.
Muslims of the world need more people like him to lead a enlightenment.
Rocktapper 2 years ago 21
@Rocktapper Too true, I was there as well.
786hanif 1 year ago
@Rocktapper screaming?? what do you mean? what were they saying? What does "talk given in his very old fashioned tone " mean? what are you trying to say?
MatrixOfDynamism 1 year ago
@MatrixOfDynamism
I think he means when our scholars were real scholar well verse in mantiq, the classics (Fareduddin Attar, Gulestan, Bustan), Fiqah, usul-e-fiqah, and so on, and had better handle on mubahisa/mukalama (and were not populist rabble rousers), they used to sound like Sheikh Murad
thuyclides 1 year ago
@thuyclides Please elaborate on what you mean.
MatrixOfDynamism 1 year ago
Great short video.
inayet 2 years ago 3
Hm. So the God that has 'power over all things' could not create a viable universe according to different physical laws and constants? That seems to render God's power very much finite, no?
Order in the universe? From defective genes at the level of DNA to the inevitable collision of the Andromeda Galaxy with our own. Is this the work of an omniscient and omnipotent God?
It seems that the apparent 'perfection' of the 'creation' demands the loosest possible understanding of that word.
Zdrazy 2 years ago
it seems you are ungrateful
it depends what you see the purpose of creation to be whether you consider life more perfect or more flawed
the collision of the galaxies could be to wipe out earth
read the koran
peace
Quran1Sunna2 2 years ago
So a person who was born with no arms and legs, if they complained about that fact, would simply be ungrateful?
The problem is, many among the religious say that the 'teleology' (design) of existence proves a God and yet when flaws in the so-called design are made evident they simply assume that the Creator has good reasons for it.
67:3 "You do not see in the Compassionate Ones creation, of these or of other things, any irregularity, any disparity or discordance." - Jalalayn
I've read it. :)
Zdrazy 2 years ago
you think that people were not aware of calamities in the prophet's time?
think to yourself that life is a short test
see if you are good or bad
free will
peace be upon you
NeCliquePasSurMoi 2 years ago
Wa Alaykum As-Salam
I thought that the Islamic notion of Qadr meant that there really was no free will in Islam?
Although, I think there's an example given in the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir of a man who converted to Islam at the behest of Muhammad and yet Allah did not wish for him to convert.
Interesting that everything should be pre-determined and yet some things will happen that God doesn't want.
Zdrazy 2 years ago
nothing can happen unless God wills it
NeCliquePasSurMoi 2 years ago 9
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@NeCliquePasSurMoi
nothing can happen unless God allows it.
OccultTruth 1 year ago
@NeCliquePasSurMoi So God willed the Japanese earthquake? Why?
qwertypluss 11 months ago
Reverse transcriptase makes many mistakes while copying DNA strand from an RNA template. You see it as a flaw in the perfection of enzyme, I see it as a perfection of design to create an enzyme that creates mutations.
harmonicamajor 2 years ago
That's an interesting way of looking at it.
Nevertheless, it remains the case that things like genetic mutations and other natural phenomena are double-edged swords.
It's a fact that most mutations are detrimental to the organism that they affect, and many of them are lethal. It is not likely that an omnibenevolent being would permit such a state of affairs if it resulted in illnesses like progeria or neurofibromatosis.
You can't just look at what's good and ignore what's bad.
Zdrazy 2 years ago
@harmonicamajor
"Perfection of design" that in one way or another would become the cause of 99,99% ever living species becoming extinct? Putting it very mildly, thats strange...
pikechris1 2 years ago
It's not Allah's will that academics should have privileged access to him. Unfortunately, many people are implying this when they discourage Ijtihad, and philosophy while claiming that true answers must come from great arabic ulamas and scholars. Questioning their non logic doctrines often leaves u with an accusation of disbelief.
However, allowing yourself perspective on questions often makes it easier to see the answers. Its a shame people tend to not see the wood because of all the trees...
SpiritualRebel 2 years ago
Are we not told, 'ask one who knows?'
SalehUddin1986 2 years ago
We are also told not to accept information without verifying ourselves that it is true.
On Judgement day some unlucky people are going to say "Our Lord, we have obeyed our masters and leaders, but they led us astray."
"The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the MAJORITY of people, they will take you away from the path of God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think."
SpiritualRebel 2 years ago
What constitutes a verification of truth? It is assumed that one does not treat the Sha'riah lightly, for a decision upon it can decide one's existence, therefore when is it that one can say that they know enough to make rulings?
How many of those who advocate Istijihad have anything like the knowledge of a Mujtahid? Do they speak the Arabic of the Qu'ran, do they know it in its entirety? Or all of those hadith on a subject?
Rarely, rather most trust to their own whims and call it 'reason'.
SalehUddin1986 2 years ago
First of all, there are many "sharia" laws that have nothing to do with the Quran.
Weather people want to admit it or not, hadiths are nothing but conjecture, and many of them are in direct contradiction to the Quranic verses.
We were given intelligence and we are also supposed to use it. Its not a job up to others to consitute what our beliefs should consist of.
Peace
SpiritualRebel 2 years ago
The Hadith were transmitted in the same way as the Qu'ran, in fact some of them have more separate chains of transmission than the Qu'ran itself. Thus they can not be called 'conjecture'.
Intelligence is defined (in the Qu'ran and Hadith both) as worshipping Allah and staying upon the right path. I would personally not feel comfortable exalting my own intelligence as being capable of interpreting God's words in a unique way.
SalehUddin1986 2 years ago
the quran doesnt rely on narrations
it is superior to sahih hadiths
Quran1Sunna2 2 years ago 2
Mashallah!
donqasimo 2 years ago
this guy is awesome. he makes it easy to understand the complex arguments by being able to talk to both the great minds as a peer and in simple terms for more humble intellects like myself.
chillipeanuts 2 years ago 2
He's speaking from knowledge .....and that remark about whatever remains [however little, deviated, masked, spoiled by time] of the "knowledge" from other civilisations is most pertinent ...
clearly typical "English lecturer" .... I love this true Muslim scholar
qshaarani 2 years ago 2
Great vid - orthodoxy is the middle road.
uk7score 2 years ago 2
Whats all this rational thought nonsense about? stop using any thought and get back to being a salafi! :P
ALRisala 2 years ago
Don't talk to lil m like that!! He's finally coming round :D
uk7score 2 years ago
Good video bro, jazak Allah khir.
muslim610 2 years ago
nice add, saw this some time back, wish the whole lecture was on youtube.
RzaaV2 2 years ago