thanks for the vid. I worked at the UCLA Bruin Bowl in the 80s, before it got taken out in 1992. The few Friday night shifts I worked I sure earned my pay, jogging into the back to take care of jams. We had $1/game bowling, and no automatic scoring so people could cheat a bit if they wanted. Place was still right out of the 60s.
In retrospect this was a lot more hazardous than I thought at the time.
@gmfreaky The pins are held by toggles around the belly of the pin. The toggle releases the pin when it is at the top of its cycle, so it always releases the belly and the head thus follows. Watch this (or any of my other) videos that show this.
On these old machines,we only use no more than 19 pins in play.And yes,even on the 8270's & XL's.There is only a few seconds of waiting time,before a new rack of pins is ready to go.
i work at a bowling alley were we have the 82-30's and we have literally thousands of feet of new distributed belt, just laying around. and they never break.
Because the table can only hold ten pins, and there are twenty pins in play on a machine, pins must stop feeding after the tenth pin is fed. Therefore the pin elevator wheel has mechanisms that keeps pins in that wheel. If more than ten pins feed, in fact al twenty can feed and with no place to go, can create a major jam of pins on top.
Also, the distributor must "ride" with the table not only as the table moves up and down to lift and respot pins on a first ball cycle, but also as the distributor moves from one pin to another (7-4-2-1-3-6-10-9-5-8) to distribute pins. There are many delicate adjustments in play to ensure these things happen on cue and a malfunction due to a setting not being just right can cause pins to not feed correctly, to "double up" on one spotting cup, or for the distributor to stop advancing altogether.
I really need to ask you to re-write your question. The words "an commond" don't mean anything and I can't figure out what you're asking. Try again please and I'll give my best answer.
its been years since i have worked on '30s, very elegant intricate machine that is an art form to set up correctly
i have worked with '70s and '90s for the last deccade and those require tlc but not as much as a '30, this is the machine where it all started, a reliable automatic pinspotter although not quite the first one amf made, but so many elements of the first one are on the 30 and 70 (and of course, 90)
There are more coming. I even have a few that attempt to show the moving parts in the chassis (essentially, the "brain" that turns the sweep and table motors on and off) plus how the respot cells pick up the pins and how the sweep operates (similar to a windshield wiper operates).
thanks for the vid. I worked at the UCLA Bruin Bowl in the 80s, before it got taken out in 1992. The few Friday night shifts I worked I sure earned my pay, jogging into the back to take care of jams. We had $1/game bowling, and no automatic scoring so people could cheat a bit if they wanted. Place was still right out of the 60s.
In retrospect this was a lot more hazardous than I thought at the time.
tachikaze222 1 year ago
How can the pins are not sometimes pointing the wrong direction?
gmfreaky 1 year ago
@gmfreaky The pins are held by toggles around the belly of the pin. The toggle releases the pin when it is at the top of its cycle, so it always releases the belly and the head thus follows. Watch this (or any of my other) videos that show this.
8230PinChaser 1 year ago
Stupid clutch on the distributor was a bitch. I was glad we went to 82-70's
aggressivemusick 1 year ago
Speed the video up to 1.1 and you get modern speed 8230 :P
EdmDude 2 years ago
On these old machines,we only use no more than 19 pins in play.And yes,even on the 8270's & XL's.There is only a few seconds of waiting time,before a new rack of pins is ready to go.
MVL900 2 years ago
This looks like a maintenance nightmare. Is there always someone back there? How often is everything greased and adjusted?
pugsty 3 years ago
most houses have full time staff on hand. maintenance is usually done on as needed basis since most large houses do not have much down time.
ke3wh 2 years ago
I heard those distributor tracks are up around 8-900 bucks now.
Binthehole 3 years ago
i work at a bowling alley were we have the 82-30's and we have literally thousands of feet of new distributed belt, just laying around. and they never break.
bowlinguy6969 2 years ago
another bowling alley with 5 yearold pins, that makes me sick
Haryazz 3 years ago
that pulley is wobbling big time
Jamison42166 3 years ago
It's a clutch spring you see, not a pulley. Completely normal.
Binthehole 3 years ago
that's not a pulley. It's a spring loaded clutch for the distributor. It's supposed to wobble.
ckyguy1 2 years ago
Hey, it sure is QUIET back there! It's SO quiet, you could hear a PIN drop! Anyone have any bowling jokes to share?
stevenscottoddballz 3 years ago
whats the most commond problem with 82-30
HGJYBRANDON 3 years ago
Because the table can only hold ten pins, and there are twenty pins in play on a machine, pins must stop feeding after the tenth pin is fed. Therefore the pin elevator wheel has mechanisms that keeps pins in that wheel. If more than ten pins feed, in fact al twenty can feed and with no place to go, can create a major jam of pins on top.
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8230PinChaser 3 years ago
Also, the distributor must "ride" with the table not only as the table moves up and down to lift and respot pins on a first ball cycle, but also as the distributor moves from one pin to another (7-4-2-1-3-6-10-9-5-8) to distribute pins. There are many delicate adjustments in play to ensure these things happen on cue and a malfunction due to a setting not being just right can cause pins to not feed correctly, to "double up" on one spotting cup, or for the distributor to stop advancing altogether.
8230PinChaser 3 years ago
hey whats an commond stop with the 30`s
HGJYBRANDON 3 years ago
I really need to ask you to re-write your question. The words "an commond" don't mean anything and I can't figure out what you're asking. Try again please and I'll give my best answer.
8230PinChaser 3 years ago
its been years since i have worked on '30s, very elegant intricate machine that is an art form to set up correctly
i have worked with '70s and '90s for the last deccade and those require tlc but not as much as a '30, this is the machine where it all started, a reliable automatic pinspotter although not quite the first one amf made, but so many elements of the first one are on the 30 and 70 (and of course, 90)
Chromatix 3 years ago
82-70 much better :)
yates5789 3 years ago
Hope to see more pinsetter videos!
wanrepsol 4 years ago
There are more coming. I even have a few that attempt to show the moving parts in the chassis (essentially, the "brain" that turns the sweep and table motors on and off) plus how the respot cells pick up the pins and how the sweep operates (similar to a windshield wiper operates).
8230PinChaser 4 years ago