You can find in most, if not all, religions about not to seek superiority - meaning be humble. Quran simply reiterated common wisdom known to all. But do u know Quran actually encourages Arabs to feel that they are superior?
003.110 YUSUFALI: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind...
I am not trying to prove anything here but showing you verses which you can consider when you interpret Quran. No ayah should be taken in isolation.
You can say whatever you like but is not Quran clear? Why don't you elaborate and "explain" what is said in Quran 3.110 ?
Brother, you quoted a COMMON wisdom known to all religions before Mohammad and attempted to "prove" something. I gave you a verse from Quran to help you to see that what you said is not where Quran stopped.
Now you blame me for many things but for what reason? Were not those verses you quoted for me ? I simply showed you more light. My fault. I agree!!!
@2angeline Regarding Moses, I will check and read some tafseer because Muslims could have justified a killing in someway e.g. Moses killed in defense of honor of his religion/people. Honour killing is accepted as just in Islamic culture.
" 'It is those who have faith, and do not mix their faith with idolatry, who will be secure, and it is they who are rightly guided.’ Such was the argument We gave to Abraham against his people- We raise in rank whoever We will- your Lord is all wise, all knowing." 6:82-3
It was according to Allah's will that Abraham would use his reason to reject the sun, moon, and star and be guided to his Creator.
There is no question about what Allah can do. He can lift a sinner and make him His messenger.
Islam teaches that a prophet is automatically free from sin. It also teaches that minor mistakes/errors/sins are immediately forgiven by Allah. It also claims that prophets are free from major sins.
In doing this they ignore what is written in Quran. Abraham committed shirk or simply had no clue about Allah and so took star, moon and sun as his God until he finally realised truth.
@truthofjesus4all The Quran does not teach us that prophets were born perfect, nor that they were perfect humans during their prophethood.
Please read the Quran for yourself, and illustrate the relevant verses to make your point clear. You will not gain the hearts and minds of Muslims by treating them like performing monkeys. :)
Can you please quote those verses from Quran? It will be quicker than I read Quran and find out myself.
Muslims are simple people. I can even call them innocents and even infants, as they are generally lead /carried by a leader as they never use their own minds and do independent analysis. They simply repeat with fear and that is what taught to them. They are tamed and performing.
They are preforming right under the light but take the mirror as the source.
@truthofjesus4all "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." 49:13
"We grant the Home in the Hereafter to those who do not seek superiority on earth or spread corruption: the happy ending is awarded to those who are mindful of God." 28:83"
I do have two different translations of Quran and refer them when needed.
And thanks for the quotes but they are not suggesting that prophets were not sinless. Islam puts prophets in different category then commoners. Is there any sin of a prophet mentioned in Quran like my video shows Abraham's shirk?
@truthofjesus4all dude you are really look like fool and idiot, and i you are really liar or stupid, the one who said this is my lord about the sun and the moon and the star this is Ibrahim (peace be upon him) pls you stop lying on yourself . peace
@truthofjesus4all idiot, Ibrahim (pbuh) was in a family and country was worship the idols but he wasn't accept this idea then he searched about something stronger he start think about the stars and the moon and the sun but he find that this things appear and disappear so he realized that he can't worship this things ,
really dude you are so funny , look if you really think you are brave try to go to a real Muslim scholar and talk to him in what you want , then you will get all your answer.
if you know better, then present your evidences and reasons. You could not present anything to support your case and so you make false accusations against me.
Prove me wrong, it is a challenge. Quran records Abraham worshiped Sun, Moon and Stars. Now if you think that Quran is not an authority, then it is a different story.
Quite honestly, you can create your own god satisfying your human notions. People sometime choose to worship a person or`a thing which seems to provide them some of their needs.
@truthofjesus4all Why would I want to muddy up my views with a god? It truly saddens me that others cannot see the universe as a whole rather than a creation for them. To even begin to understand a fraction of what our universe truly is, is to of gained the knowledge of a 1000 lives.
I find it more satisfying to find the universe as it truly is, rather than as it is not.
A creator? That doesn't matter to me. Why worry about who created what, when all of the splendor is there to enjoy.
@truthofjesus4all Often times they're more saying i'm anti-american or a terrorist for not believing in god.
Again I ask, what is the point of a shackled freedom? Why should non-believers in something that has no evidence what so ever in it existing, in this case a god, be punished.
Thats like me going to a car lot, and the car lot telling me to pay 15k upfront without seeing the car, and threatening to rob me if I don't pay. When in reality, the car doesn't fking exist.
You miss something. There are many things that exists but you cannot see and probably will never realise they exist. e.g. stars far far away about which even astrophysicist do not know. Existence of Black Hole is fairly recent finding. Where they not existing before? Their effects were there but no one recognised it.
i can understand you but Unseen GOD exists whether you like it or not.
Did you notice you used word "theory"? I agree there are many theories about GOD and "birth" of universe. Some says Steady State Theory and some says Big Bang Theory.
What is life? What makes you alive and a stone dead?
We do not know how things happened in many many cases. Science awaits for many answers and developing theories. Human knowledge is not even a drop when compared ocean of unknown to us. e.g. Why electron shows duality?
You accept that life can have a form completely unknown to us. We call a life form as GOD what is wrong in it?
Why don't you try to define life as understood by you? I will dent your definition for your benefit. :) Honestly !
For me science is a tool by which we understand our surroundings with our senses. Science finds answers but it is not creating anything. Considering GOD as Creator does not stop or limit anyone to find out how universe was created, how it was done?
There are far more mysteries science can solve. My faith in God never closed my mind to look at things and find out whys and hows? I still intrigues me to learn about how this universe came into existence even though i know GOD created it. BUT how? that is my question. I do not reject string theory and keep my mind closed. I am ready to learn and know more.
Why should faith in GOD stop me or you or anyone from exploring nature and science?
@truthofjesus4all Can an electron reproduce? Really?? No, it can't. as far as I know i've never heard of an electron reproducing asexually or otherwise.
Furthermore, that is closing your mind. How did god create the universe? That means you lost the much broader question of How did the universe come into existence?
You limited it to how did god do it.
And I perceive doing that on "faith", is rather ridiculous.
So, is an electron dead? and yet it show dual nature depending on lab instruments. Anyway, how about an atom, a molecule? do they reproduce?
You are right if you lose focus on "HOW" universe came into existence and try to see "WHO" did it. For me "who" is already known but I am seeking HOW he did that. I know who switched on the bulb. I am analysing circuit and its components and figuring out HOW bulb glow.
May be u r closed on GOD so very mention of HIM shuts u off from HOW
@truthofjesus4all Or... Maybe i'm not closed on God but instead of saying he's the Who, i'd rather look for evidence of that as well? You're coming to the conclusion i'm saying god cannot exist? Hah.
What shows nature, or its nature. Does not mean it is living by our definition.
Our definition of life fits us, and other animals.
To us, atoms and electrons are non-living. Not dead.
So the difference is you are worried about who more than how. For me, I am comfortable to investigate how things happen. My faith in GOD does not stop me.
Even Science does not look for answer as it theorises. From where singularity came and created BigBang in great nothing. How space is created or comes in existence in nothingness? There are no theories to these. I hope you can differentiate between space and nothingness.
How about a Eunuch? it cannot reproduce, is it dead?
It was fun watching you hitting your face with your palm :)) LOL
do more often!! It was your stupidity *\yourfacewithyourpalm/* that u thought i am basing my argument on big bang and trying to refute it as the beginning. Check in depth about string theory. u didnt google and learn about it when i mentioned it. u thought you know enough :) may be but not enough to match me... do i have to write each step so that u can follow me?
@truthofjesus4all Many are born eunuch? Really? A negative mutation. It sux for them, I question your use of the word many. Or any at all.
But they still have life as if it wasn't for a mutation they would've been able to reproduce.
Nice ad-hominem. Check in depth about hydrogen naturally occurring in the cosmos and a reaction causing gravity condensing the gas into a super condensed sub atomic particle that imploded and created the universe.
Ok, so we understood what is life. You didnt mention about molecules and atoms but i take it that you consider them as dead. Now when you were born what was your weight? Now how much you weigh? You accumulated pounds of atoms -trillions and much much more which are dead ... ur whole body is made up of molecules and u are ALIVE instead of dead. Who is alive in u?
u said "naturally occurring hydrogen in the cosmos" LOL LOL u know NULL! 4 u, cosmos and H2 were exsisting b4 BBang:))
Why electron is such? An electron beam can act as a wave and also a particle. Who decides what nature electron will show? Does electron has consciousness? I will be glad if you will point to some theories backed by evidences -even from theoretical physics.
It is your hypothesis that electrons are created such. They may not! If someone in 16th century had suggested duality then how scientists would have reacted? Science is a never ending journey. Don't think we know all.
this dumb person uses the green photo and write al wahad alahad to mislead Muslims and attract them to see his videos hes a dumb christian using dishonest method to preach dont u have your own style? doesnt ur bible have its own greek words? why do u need the Qur'an words to explain your God Jesus? shame on u. u contradicted urself u preach against the Qur'an and yet u need its words to preach ur own God to make ur god sound very powerful 3 gods cant be 1 u dummy..
this dumb person uses the green photo and write al wahad alahad to mislead Muslims and attract them to see his videos hes a dumb christian using dishonest method to preach dont u have your own style? doesnt ur bible have its own greek words? why do u need the Qur'an words to explain your God Jesus? shame on u. u contradicted urself u preach against the Qur'an and yet u need its words to preach ur own God to make ur god sound very powerful 3 gods cant be 1 u dummy..
God Knows before the person is born where his destination is... U ask why create him or her if He Knows already? It is because He wanted to create Humans that can make mistakes & SIN but then Turn Back To ALLAH... what are you christian or hindu podu or some dumb athiest? ur right when u said get a life cuz a person Who talks to u must have no life cuz U are some sad low life person that deserve to used as a slave & us ppl shud have gd life so there is no need to talk to a slave like u..lol
And why do you bring in the Bible? Creating diversion and avoiding to confess that Allah caused sin of shirk in the life of Abraham.
Feel free to give you views and avoid creating diversion. Quran cannot automatically be considered as true if you prove pagan scripture is false. SO focus and learn... and share...
Its Simple Allah Knows what Pharoh Were going to say before he said it He knows if your going Hell or Paradise but still gives you the oppertunity to choose. And The Sun,Moon & stars are Signs That this Galaxy, Earth,Moon, stars & everything else can't have come by a chance God Almighty Allah Lord of the worlds created them. Got it? I hope your seeking the truth & not just attacking or trying to disprove the Very Words of your Lord Allah. Jesus is Not God! God has No Beginning Jesus did hv.think
@truthofjesus4all Listen Up Patt Patt Hindu podu with messed up accent.. I gave u the answer for your attacks but of course u dnt want answers u just wana attack.. And writting LOL isint a refute either.. And Once U try to ask dumb questions I have to answer them otherwise why put them there from 1st place? I answer them & u say LOL u think this is debate? why why put the video there for fame? U need to get a life...
Many Muslims make an excuse by accusing attack on Islam because they cannot answer a valid question. They think, some how, if they will say it is an attack on islam then the question will automatically become invalid.
I am commenting this here to let you know that your comments are read and your answeres are found with errors and irrelevant. You need to seek help from other Muslims who know about qadar and islamic perspective.
@truthofjesus4all Furthermore, Do you believe in fairies??? How about unicorns? Now what if I told you, that you will be tortured endlessly after you die for not believing in fairies and unicorns.
I can't prove they exist, you can't prove they don't exist.
Fairy tales tell me they exist, therefore they exist.
So obviously you're going to be tortured endlessly unless you do the gumdrop sugar loli-pop dance on the day of the 12 suns on planet Valenectorin. Enjoy.
Do you believe in alien abduction? What science say about alien? What do you BELIEVE???
Faith is universal.
And, I believe in GOD not because I am afraid of eternal torture. That is ridiculous argument. I look around me at this magnificient universe and life and understand that such cannot be a beautiful accident. I realise that there must be a creator whom I call GOD.
I respect your choice to believe that u r product of an accident when some atoms decided they r alive.
Let us see what science say about why two electrons repel? Who told them to repel?
Before the big bang, who decided laws of Physics and electromagnetism. Were they eternally existing?
Science is a tool to observe what is happening around us. It does not decide what can exist and what cannot. It just observes... If it sees something new (to itself), it studies and try to understand how that works and exists and find new laws.
@truthofjesus4all The only problem with my argument of eternal torture, is that you're not plucking at the infinite strands of gods, to make a finite one.
Other than that, if you were christian, it's quite obvious the argument isn't illogical or ridiculous. Because if punishment didn't matter, then punishment wouldn't exist.
The punishment must have then been created to attempt to convince that such would exist.
Christianity strive on the fact that it accept relationship with GOD, the Creator. It has nothing to do with heaven or hell. God compared HIS relationship with mankind with relationship of husband and wife. You love in sun and in rain. What is your goal and focus? A loving relationship with your beloved. Now imagine wife deserting her husband.
if punishment was to convince, judgement day should be the FIRST and not warnings. Judgement is result of our choices, not God's doing!
@truthofjesus4all Islam also strives on the fact that it accept relationship with GOD, the Creator. Its Christians and Athiests who think it has to do with heaven or hell always. There was a daughter of a catholic priest who converted to Islam because she didnt feel that relationship on telling her sins through a priest to connect with god, she felt more of a one on one connection with God in Islam, I forgot her name but I have the dvd of her talk a University during the 80's...i will upload it
:) you said "Islam also strives on the fact that it accept relationship with GOD, the Creator." Brother, kindly discuss your understanding with a learned imam. You have very weak foundation in Islam OR you are not a true Muslim as defined by Muslims.
Second, the girl who converted to islam has no idea that one can pray directly to GOD and that shows her depth in Christian faith. No wonder she was not rooted in the truth and so rejected eternal life.
excuse me, i dont see any of your words concern me. What you have just stated is merely blind accusation. dont even come near the point. have you heard the terms straw man? thank you for being one. :)
unlike the bible which says that abraham on his way to sacrifice ishmael he used to lie to his son by saying that they are going to hunt the qr'an corrects this information and says that abraham asked ishmael about this (he was a prophet and prophets dont lie) and ishmael said "do what you must and may allah let me be one of the patient ones."
I think your comment is irrelevant to the current video.
Genesis 22. “The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?” Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” ... He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood.
I could not find where Abraham said to his son that they are going to hunt. Note, name of son, Isaac, is clearly mentioned. isn't it true that u r misguided?
the old scripture is preserved from generation and no prophet ever said that the scriptures are corrupted. The copies of earlier manuscripts can be refered that it was Issac and not ishmael. God HIMSELF had said to Abraham that abraham's descendents would be counted through Issac. For more info. Watch my video title Deut 18:18. God always called HIM as GOD of Abraham and Issac and Jacob.
There are ample reasons to understand that it was Issac and not Ishmael.
Indeed, I have turned my face toward He who created the heavens and the earth, inclining toward truth, and I am not of those who associate others with Allah ."6:79
And his people argued with him. He said, "Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me? And I fear not what you associate with Him [and will not be harmed] unless my Lord should will something. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember?6:80
So when the night covered him [with darkness], he saw a star. He said, "This is my lord." But when it set, he said, "I like not those that disappear." 6:76
And when he saw the moon rising, he said, "This is my lord." But when it set, he said, "Unless my Lord guides me, I will surely be among the people gone astray."6:77
And when he saw the sun rising, he said, "This is my lord; this is greater." But when it set, he said, "O my people, indeed I am free from what you associate with Allah .
the tribe of abraham used to worship some statues and he didnt agree with this...he believed in the existance of one god so he started searching to see who this god is...
so he sees a star and when he saw that it disapeared he changed his mind...
then the moon and he said "this is my god" and when he saw that it disapeared he changed his mind and also the sun until god spoke to him...
after that he went to statues of his tribe and he destroyed them...
Thanks brother for posting the verses. Now Muslims will be benefited. Please know that I had read these ayahs and their ommision or inclusion does not affect what I am saying.
I simply pointed out that Abraham committed shirk which was fixed by Allah if Quran is eternal. You accepted that Abraham didn't have clue of true God. So from the time he called a star as his GOD to the time when he rejected sun as his GOD, he was worshipping false GODs. Such is revealed in Quran.
@truthofjesus4all i dont know how much time because hes changing of mind is in the sam verses that say he thought the star, moon and sun were allah...
he didnt commit shirk..he was seeking to know allah and when he started thiking about it he saw the star so he thought that maybe allah is the star...he didnt say "teh stars are gods" he believed in one god but he didnt know who this god was...
I will just add that, you think that Abraham was seeking God until he found allah. Note that till he found Allah, he addressed star, moon and sun as "my God." So even if you like to believe that Abraham was seeking one God, he indeed found this one God in star, moon and sun before Allah was revealed.
God's words are clear guidance. We do not need to add meaning to it to support our beliefs. That is my view.
@truthofjesus4all qor'an is eternal and it is in "allawh almahfud"...
and thats allahs knowledge...u are trying to compair allahs knowledge with our knowledge which is impossible...his knowledge is infinite while ours is very limited...
so we cant say what qadar really is..thats why qadar is the last pillar of iman...
we do know that allah knows what we are going to do and what we think but we cant say that we are limited because we are able to think so we have free will...
Well, let explain what I think based on what you said.
If Quran is eternal, then Abraham was predestined to say "my God" to star, moon and sun. That means Allah fixed that in life of Abraham. Same way unbelief was predestined for Pharoh. Thus, both are not responsible for their actions. No one can be rewarded for good and punished for bad qadar.
The problem is how much is defined by Qadar and how much is left to freewill. Use of freewill is paradox to God's omniscience.
@truthofjesus4all alqadar is divine predestination...it is the last of the pillars of faith because its the hardest to believe and we can not understand...yes god knew pharaoh will not repent until he will be close to death but pharaoh had his chance to believe in god before that...we cant compair our will to gods will...
we're living in the universe and god created the universe thus he is not controlled by the laws of the universe but we are...
Now if you think, you cannot understand predestination and other things then how can you stop others for having views contradicting to yours?
Second, from available information from Quran and other secular knowledge, we can analyse and derive things concerning predestination. it does not need that we must have full understanding to understand little things.
third, predestination as per islam definitely takes away freewill and you fail to explain why it is not such.
@truthofjesus4all god is allknowing. allseeing...meaning that he knows absolutely everything so there must be a qadar...if we would say that god didnt know what pharaoh is going to say it means he is not god because he didnt know...
but this doesnt mean that we dont have free will because we can think and we can chose...
about abraham and his son...it doenst matter which one it was but the qor'anic story provides us a moral teaching...
Wrong, it seems you know everything about GOD or define GOD and HIS capacity. Qadar as understood by islam take away true freewill. Islam teaches that man has limited freewill but in that also if final outcome depend on the person, then the outcome cannot be known by Allah until actual action is taken. This is issue of philosophy and in ALL religion predestination and freewill and omniscience of God r hotly discussed. So kindly share your views freely, v r not talkin any religion.
@truthofjesus4all qadar as understood by islam doesn take any free will it didnt take mine or others free will..its very obvious...but in the same time god knows everything right? can u say that god doesnt know something? doesnt know the future? no he does but the qor'an says that every persoj is responsible for his actions...so its obvious that we have free will and in the same time we are predestined...how? allah knows how...the problem is that ur trying to compair our knowledge with his...
:) You are right in one think that there is some problem and it is solution is "Allah knows..." If such answers can be considered as true and final answer then there is no point in discussing or sharing our views. To any question, you can say "Allah knows..." and claim you answered it correctly.
Why are you afraid to address the issue and meditate how two contradicting things can exist. You choose simple exit "Allah knows", while I think and try to understand God's ways. PEACE
@truthofjesus4all abraham didnt simply take his son and tell him "god himself will provide the lamb" while he was on his way to kill his son...and the bible doesnt even mention how he put his son on the stone considering that he didnt tell him the truth...did they fight or argue?
the qor'an tells usthat he asked for his sons opinion and his son told him to do what he must do and may allah make him one of the patient ones...thats a moral teaching....the bible version doesnt teach anything good
Brother, you said that Bible recorded that Abraham spoke a lie. I simply aske you show me from the Bible or take back your words.
We can discuss Abraham and what is recorded in the Bible once you confess your error.
Your way to measure what is right and wrong is strange if not totally wrong. You presume that Quran is true and then read other scriptures and measure them. By that way you can believe (convert/present) any lie as a truth.
urself told me that he told isac "god himself will provide us the lamb" right? i made an error about the hunting yes and i take that back but not the lieing...
abraham was on his way to sacrifice his son and his son asks him where they are goin or something like that and abraham instead of telling the truth he tells him "god himself will provide the lamb"...
You said "unlike the bible which says that abraham on his way to sacrifice ishmael he used to lie to his son by saying that they are going to hunt the qr'an corrects this information". This is not a mistake BUT big claim. You need to apologise for making such a big mistake even if it is ignorance.
And didn't God HIMSELF provide the sacrifice?
And know that the Bible shows everyone as they are unlike Islam falsely claims prophets are sinless.
@truthofjesus4all and i dont know why ur trying to prove to me that theres no immoral teaching in the bible whle the very same abraham of the bible sells his wife twice once to the king of egypt and once to melchisedeq...
do u deny this? and after that his son tries to do that to...isac...and yet present them as if they were still saints...what logic is that? what languege?
the qor'an shows the pure stories and these things of the bible can not be other than the words of man not god...
Brother, you do not want to understand that is why you are far from the truth. The Bible records the truth. It carries many true stories. It records mistakes and sins of saints as well as people like pharoh. You cannot read what pharoh did from the Bible (or Quran) and LEARN how to defy Allah.
Pure stories do not mean they are word of God. Islam Glorifies prophets and Quran to project them as ideal and perfect but truth is different.
@truthofjesus4all the qor'an doesnt say the prophets are sinless in fact mohammad made mistakes and the qor'an criticises him...but saying that a prophet after comunicating with god sells his wife twice is way over the edge of comprehension
@khalilrabee PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE RE NAKED ! Gen 9:21 Noah drank of the wine, and became drunk, and lay uncovered in his tent. and Ham [his son] saw the NAKEDNESS of his father. 1 Sam. 19:23] And the spirit of God came upon Saul.. And he too STRIPPED OFF HIS CLOTHES, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay NAKED all the day and all the night. 2 Sam. 6:20] David DANCES NAKED before the people and before the Lord.
You are proving what everyone is saying from the beginning. You are the one who is misguided and think that God's saints cannot do mistake or sin.
You said prophets are not angel or born prophets and so it is possible that Mohammad (like Abraham) might have worshipped an idol as Mecca was center of idol worship or he may be a Christian and prayed to Jesus or Mary. It is possible that Mohammad was led to an idol to worship by his elders. just thinking...
@TheNomidian i know they dont read it...they are more intereseted in the qor'an than their own book...
christianity is dropping and if every single christian would read the bible christianity would drop even faster...
telling blasphemies about prophets...
and the thing is that the bible presents them as very bad sinners but god doesnt tell them anything...so he aproves anythign they do...(but they didnt do any of that...they were prophets chosen by god and he knows why he chose them)
Brother, you first decide what is right and wrong and then you read a book and think it is right or wrong. By your standard there are MANY fictional book which you can consider at par with Quran because they are nice and without blasphemies against prophets.
Have you read the bible? Did God allow a sin to go unpunish? Clearly, you do not seek truth. After Abraham's shirk what did Allah do? By your own scale you do not measure Quran. Afraid of truth???
@truthofjesus4all lets say im abraham and god comunicates with me...
after comunicating with god i sell my wife once to the king of egypt...and my deal fails, i leave egypt and i sell my wife again...and my son tries to sell his wife too...how on earth does that make sense man?
the bible is corrupted and the bible says its corrupted (i cant remember which book, chapter and verse)...
so how can u say it isnt corrupted? how can u say it isnt corrupted and changed when u know it was changed?
@truthofjesus4all how on earth can u say that the bible didnt change while its constantly changing??
is this a christian joke?? check the new bibles u have notes which say "this verse isnt found in the old scriptures"...so why on earth is that verse still there? are u kidding me? how can u say that the bible isnt corrupted while u know very well that the 4 gospels were canonised because they are the closest to pagan roman beliefs? why do u think emperor constantin became a christian...
@truthofjesus4all and u know very well all this stuff and yet claim that the bible isnt changed but its the pure word of god...how on earth does that make sense man?
@khalilrabee the bible says it will be corrupted . 1 - Book of Jeremiah, Chapter 8, Verse 8 it says this
8 " 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely " !!!it is very clear from the text that the scribes ve corrupted thelaw with their "pens" .
2-Deut 31:25-29 : The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted.
@TheNomidian lol its very obvious from the bible itself that what the qor'an says its true...if christians say they believe in the bible then they should believe its corrupted...
:) it is funny that you want to learn how bad you can be :)
Bible truthfully records evil of saints and others and points to the fact that we all are sinners and that is our nature. It is YOU who have to say how a person gets sinful nature and when it ends (for example, in prophethood etc).
kindly make a point and know that you cannot decide that the Bible is corrupt because it records sins of people. If Quran only glorifies people, then more likely it is corrupted.
@truthofjesus4all hhh , friend . you contradict yourself , why ! CUZ you blame the QURAN when it describes how abraham was guided to the real GOD . but you didnt blame ur bible that says prophets were naked .....
@truthofjesus4all Prophet Ibrahim is one of the greatest Prophets of Allah. The Holy Qur'an says: Ibrahim was certainly a model of faith for the people, obedient to Allah and upright, and was not an idolater but grateful to Him for His favours; so He chose him and guided him on the right path, and gave him what is good in this world, and in the hereafter he will be amongst the righteous ones. (Quran 16:120-122)
@truthofjesus4all neither abraham nor mohamed worshiped any idol ,that thier people worship ,both of them have hated idol worship. , when he had asked those questions that you think re shirk ,he was looking for the truth ,thier parents were idols worshipers .
i told you before try just to understand your bible ,cuse the bible mentioned that it will be corrupted , also the bible says jesus didnt die on the cross , also prophecied coming of mohamed peace be on him .
@truthofjesus4all Instead of making videos go fix your accent hindu pudu dont spend all your time reading the Qur'an and explainning it according to your own Understanding and not even according to the Scholars you have no life doing these videos.. You must have been bored to death to make that video but Keep that video up till You die & see the truth for yourself InshAllah.. & that video will be used against u cuz us Muslims answered your questions & yet U laughed & said no i am hindu dumb pudo
The Bible had recorded from the beginning how saints fell to sin. It is Muslims who need to glorify Mohammad so that they can believe in ahadith without questioning.
If Jews wanted to hide and change the scriptures then they would have removed all what you think as "over the edge of comprehension" but they didn;t because they could comprehend that all men are fallible and all sin.
You are rejecting the old truth based on your new beliefs.
This is illogical nonsense, please read a Qur'an exegeses than trying to interpret the Holy Qur'an with your limited knowledge out of context as is a habit of christian brethrens 4 the bible. Seriously.However if you are sincere than just trying to create faults of which I believe is rather the latter with my experience of your channel, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you to start reading the best exegeses of Qur'an: almizan(dot)org, lets see if you dont change by its Ocean :)
Does your favourite, the best exegeses of Qu'ran says that Abraham didn;t commit shirk? Then it shows how words of Quran are changed.
When i went to almizan's site it took me to shiasource(dot)com. seems Quran interpretation in this tafsir will not be same as Sunni tafsir. I found tafsir of only FEW sura and not sura 6 used in this video. There was a puddle, no ocean...So far, you proved that you can talk BIG but all empty and vain.
The exegeses of the entire book is available in Arabic. In English only until there has it been translated and the work is going along. If you haven't cared to read even the Preface (so you may understand why is it to valuable in the first place), you might not be a deep reader, just too hasty. Let me provide you an abridged Exegeses Book (a summary exegeses of all surahs are available), and this will be more than enough for your capacity. "quran(dot)al-islam(dot)org"
now i have a question...the person the verses refer to is ibrahim but why didnt u quote the other things he says? is it ignorance? allah dint fix a sin to abraham...
abraham actually says after that "i do not like the ones who set"...
Brother, I do know what Abraham said but did you analyse his words? In another comment I said: "Abraham thought star, moon and sun set and thus they are not god. In this, Abraham seems careless as he hurriedly called star his God. Then quickly changed to moon and then to sun. No wise person will change his decisions about God so quickly."
It is also unclear that whether Abraham checked whether Allah sets or not by the standard he used to "find" his God. Interesting, isn't it?
first proghet Ibraheem was looking for a true god i think it is easy proghet befor his message looks for true god , and allah send angel gebreel or gebraeal as u say told him about allah , allah who worshipped by Ibraheem , moses , jesus and mohamed allah prophets look for true god , all prophets worshipped allah
Ibraheem,Moses,Jesus and mohamed , if u open ur bible u will find jesus was a good worshipper to allah
Brother, this video is showing from Quran that Abraham called star, moon and sun as "My GOD". So it is possible that he might have worshipped other gods before Allah revealed himself. Unfortunately, Quran does not tell how Allah revealed Himself to Abraham but points that when Abraham saw star, moon and sun, he called them as his gods.
The video ends with questions like why Allah FIXED sin of shirk in life of Abraham. By deeds and by faith Abraham was NOT WORTHY as per Quran.
Does not the Creator of the universe and everything in between ,knows the present the future and the past?Why does you not use your brain?Are you seeing yet do not see,hearing yet do not hear and thinking yet do not conceive?Are you stupid?one plus one plus one equal to ONE?If you claim Jews crucified Jesus why are you defending them?Are you from Synagogue of Satan? "We narrate unto you the story of Moses and Pharaoh with truth,for folk who believe "28:3 -------FOR FOLK WHO BELIEVE,not YOU!
Your comment is irrelevant to the subject of video. The video shows that Allah FIXED sin of shirk in the life of Abraham. WHY??? Abraham was not worthy to receive favour of Allah because he worshipped star, moon and sun and thus he was a failure in deeds and faith.
And I can easily show you 1 + 1 = 10 if you want to learn...
The light of truth is shining... come into light...
@truthofjesus4all IF you SAID 1+1`=10 hEHEHEHEH wHAT AM i TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE?yOU NEED HELP DUDE!! wE HAVE NO ARGUMENT ON jESUS IS THE LIGHT. wE ARE WORRY ABOUT YOU MY FRIEND,bLIND TO THAT LIGHT.hAVING eYES BUT CAN'T SEE.ABRAHAM Like any other Prophets had not committed any sins.We Muslims believe Prophets are sinless ! If you have a problem with that,thats your problem not ours.!
A religion of right,the path(trod) by Abraham,the true in faith,and he CERTAINLY did not ascribe partners to Allah6:161 Abraham was indeed a model,devoutly obedient to Allah,true in faith,and he joined not gods with Allah 6:120
Abraham calles start, moon and sun as per Quran. Now if somewhere else Quran records that Abraham always had true faith then it is contradiction of Quran itself.
Kindly address this contradiction. You choose and define religion of Islam as per your beliefs and understanding and NOT as found in Quran.
When Abraham called star, moon and sun as "My GOD", it was FIXED by Allah before creation if u think Quran is eternal word of Allah. Shirk was fixed from Abraham by Allah. PEACE
@truthofjesus4all how is that any different then how the king james bible says god placed the world on pillars & that the sky is a blanket thrown over the world? There is no science in religion.
@truthofjesus4all Theres no contradiction in Koran,only your short comings of understanding it.Many Top biblical scholars, more learned than you had converted to Islam after scrutinizing the Koran.I wonder why God has not chosen You .Maybe you had done some BIG mistakes and had no ask for forgiveness from God.OR You are just doing some cheap job for some groups who are active now belittling Islam.Well if you are doing that I can understand because maybe you need the money to feed your family.!
@truthofjesus4all May be its YOU that God was referring to when He said,"Its the same whether you tell them or you do not tell them,they will not believe" Abraham had never referred the Sun or Moon as God.So please stop your foolish nonsense.For 1400 over years the whole world knows, even your imminent scholars that Muslims nor the Koran had made such a Moronic claim.Have you no shame?
They say:"Become Jews or Christians if you would be guided(to salvation)"You say "Nay!(I would rather)the religion of Abraham ,the true, and he not join gods with Allah" 2:135 Follow the religion of Abraham,the true in faith: he was not those who ascribed partners to Allah 3:95 Who can be better in religion than the one who submits his whole life to Allah,does good and follows the way of Abraham,the true in faith?4:125
Thanks brother for showing the internal contradiction of Quran. Once Quran shows how Abraham called star, moon and sun as "My God." and later Quran claims "he was not those who ascribed partners with Allah".
It is possible that Abraham was an idol worshippwer before he found Allah. As such the verses you quoted does not suggest Abraham was always of true faith. In any case, Abraham committed shirk as per Quran.
@truthofjesus4all Ive made clear to you that Abraham was not an idol worshiper and Ive showed you verses to prove just that.but you still keep on repeating your nonsense. How old are you? 14 years old?
@truthofjesus4all Contradiction?What is your goal Dude? You are not even good at being sarcastic what more ,to discuss a serious subject like RELIGION. I think you should stop trying to be some kind of Preacher because you don't have the basic knowledge of religion and the making of a great scholar.I think you should go back to your normal self .Go watch "American Idol" or go clubbing or dating your girlfriend,like you normally do.You are now, just wasting other peoples' time.Enjoy yourself !
This video is about Abraham and how he committed sin of shirk which was fixed by Allah (if u think Quran is eternal).
I used quote from sura 10 to point out that Quran also records words spoken by Pharoh. But you can say that Allah spoke through Pharoh. In any case, it was Pharoh's mouth from where the words came.
Brother, as I told you umpteenth of time: Learn and grow up.
Quran records Abraham did have polluted beliefs. You are just showing contradiction within Quran.
Thanks for showing contradiction of Quran as we can see in case of Abraham who had polluted belief and yet it is claimed by Muslim (and may be also in Quran) that Abraham had true faith.
Your investigate...So far, it seems you, Quran and Muslims are in error while this video remains true as it is not offering any interpretation but merely quoting Quran and raises the right questions. Kindly address those questions.
@truthofjesus4all Qeuoting something out of context is very easy, the person below me already explained you the verses so why even keep this video on? Instead of going in a debate with someone on this topic you refer to spread lies, if you dont understand something ask information and dont spread your misunderstandings
Who explained the verses i used in this video? Brother, I replied almost all comments so check my reply, too. Do i have to tell you that anyone can comment and answer me but we have to test whether the answer is true or not. An explanation can be wrong!
Kindly show me what i quoted out of context but first tell me what is a context and how YOU will find it.
Learning is key, without that door of knowledge cannot open.
he always new there is one god. while seeking him. he felt confused and lonely. and with his beautiful mind compared things around him. and found the truth.
without searching god. How should he became an example for humanity???
Heeeeheheh Nice try, but Muslims never interprete that verse as desperately as you wanted others to believe. If i were to say ," You ARE A fool" AND "yOU ARE A fool?"dOES BOTH MEANS THE SAME?One is a statement while the other is a question.They look similar,yet each hold different meanings.And I don't think i have to spell it out for you,because you re definitely not a fool ,not to understand that!
Brother, punctuation mark like "?" "." and others are important. Similarly vowels are also important to pronounce the correct words.
Anyway, I have not interpreted anything in this video but raised the right questions like why Allah fixed sin of shirk in the life of Abraham. Do explain your post a little bit more as it is unclear to me. I am not as smart as you think :) ... I am just like you.
It speaks of Abraham(pbuh) when he(pbuh) became inquisitive about finding the real God! He started questioning. This happened to many of the Prophets when they were to be awarded Prophethood!! my opinion by just watching till 0:31
Brother, I request you to look closely at the Quran verses. Kindly note that Abraham was watching but did he see Allah? Second, Abraham thought star, moon and sun set and thus they are not god. In this, Abraham seems careless as he hurriedly called star his God. Then quickly changed to moon and then to sun. No wise person will change his decisions about God so quickly.
Kindly tell me which other prophets committed shirk before coming to Allah.
In my experiences, Allah is Greater in saving us from the addictions of this world, and helps to heal the past wounds, Through giving us additional Hope and Faith, if you love Jesus, that is great, you can continue to Love Jesus, but worship the Creator of Jesus, Allah.
Do you ever thought that people in all religion "experience" the same you experience about Allah? That is why we need to put aside how we feel about something and carefully put it to test.
Jesus said, "I give them eternal life..."
Jesus said, " Come to me and I will give you rest..."
Jesus fulfilled the law and established eternal kingdom of God. Do you like to be in the kingdom of God? You can enter through Jesus alone.
"And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah". Say: " Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth"? Glorified and Exalted is He above all that which they associate as partners with Him." (Holy Quran 10:18)
If you will carefully read Quran, you will find that most of the time Mohammad addressed Quracies who have added partners with God.
Jews and Christians NEVER added partner with Allah because they believe in tawheed. It is different thing that they are accused of shirk without proof or because of misunderstanding. Show me a Jew or a Christian who says there are more than one God or three gods.
Have a blessed day as you investigate the truth without bias.
The quotes were aimed at you. :)
Sura 28 explains how Moses struck a man with his fist. When he realised he had killed the man, He turned to his Lord for forgiveness and guidance.
2angeline 6 months ago
@2angeline
:) But they didn't fit...
You can find in most, if not all, religions about not to seek superiority - meaning be humble. Quran simply reiterated common wisdom known to all. But do u know Quran actually encourages Arabs to feel that they are superior?
003.110 YUSUFALI: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind...
I am not trying to prove anything here but showing you verses which you can consider when you interpret Quran. No ayah should be taken in isolation.
truthofjesus4all 6 months ago
@truthofjesus4all
Nowhere does the Quran say that Arabs are the best people.
Your disingenuous attempts to befriend/mislead/misrepresent Muslims, never fail to disappoint.
2angeline 6 months ago
@2angeline
You can say whatever you like but is not Quran clear? Why don't you elaborate and "explain" what is said in Quran 3.110 ?
Brother, you quoted a COMMON wisdom known to all religions before Mohammad and attempted to "prove" something. I gave you a verse from Quran to help you to see that what you said is not where Quran stopped.
Now you blame me for many things but for what reason? Were not those verses you quoted for me ? I simply showed you more light. My fault. I agree!!!
truthofjesus4all 6 months ago
@truthofjesus4all
Ramadan Kareem.
2angeline 6 months ago
@2angeline
Ramadan Mubarak...
truthofjesus4all 6 months ago
@2angeline Regarding Moses, I will check and read some tafseer because Muslims could have justified a killing in someway e.g. Moses killed in defense of honor of his religion/people. Honour killing is accepted as just in Islamic culture.
truthofjesus4all 6 months ago
" 'It is those who have faith, and do not mix their faith with idolatry, who will be secure, and it is they who are rightly guided.’ Such was the argument We gave to Abraham against his people- We raise in rank whoever We will- your Lord is all wise, all knowing." 6:82-3
It was according to Allah's will that Abraham would use his reason to reject the sun, moon, and star and be guided to his Creator.
2angeline 7 months ago
@2angeline
There is no question about what Allah can do. He can lift a sinner and make him His messenger.
Islam teaches that a prophet is automatically free from sin. It also teaches that minor mistakes/errors/sins are immediately forgiven by Allah. It also claims that prophets are free from major sins.
In doing this they ignore what is written in Quran. Abraham committed shirk or simply had no clue about Allah and so took star, moon and sun as his God until he finally realised truth.
truthofjesus4all 7 months ago
@truthofjesus4all The Quran does not teach us that prophets were born perfect, nor that they were perfect humans during their prophethood.
Please read the Quran for yourself, and illustrate the relevant verses to make your point clear. You will not gain the hearts and minds of Muslims by treating them like performing monkeys. :)
2angeline 7 months ago
@2angeline
Can you please quote those verses from Quran? It will be quicker than I read Quran and find out myself.
Muslims are simple people. I can even call them innocents and even infants, as they are generally lead /carried by a leader as they never use their own minds and do independent analysis. They simply repeat with fear and that is what taught to them. They are tamed and performing.
They are preforming right under the light but take the mirror as the source.
truthofjesus4all 6 months ago
@truthofjesus4all "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." 49:13
"We grant the Home in the Hereafter to those who do not seek superiority on earth or spread corruption: the happy ending is awarded to those who are mindful of God." 28:83"
Please read the Quran for yourself.
2angeline 6 months ago
@2angeline
I do have two different translations of Quran and refer them when needed.
And thanks for the quotes but they are not suggesting that prophets were not sinless. Islam puts prophets in different category then commoners. Is there any sin of a prophet mentioned in Quran like my video shows Abraham's shirk?
truthofjesus4all 6 months ago
@truthofjesus4all dude you are really look like fool and idiot, and i you are really liar or stupid, the one who said this is my lord about the sun and the moon and the star this is Ibrahim (peace be upon him) pls you stop lying on yourself . peace
vito123321 8 months ago
@vito123321
Quran shows how Abraham prayed to Sun, Moon and Stars.
You can read it in Quran. Why are you calling me liar or stupid. Say this to the one who wrote this in Quran.
PEACE
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all idiot, Ibrahim (pbuh) was in a family and country was worship the idols but he wasn't accept this idea then he searched about something stronger he start think about the stars and the moon and the sun but he find that this things appear and disappear so he realized that he can't worship this things ,
really dude you are so funny , look if you really think you are brave try to go to a real Muslim scholar and talk to him in what you want , then you will get all your answer.
vito123321 8 months ago
who ever made this video is the misguided one and the one who is ignorant.
TheMl63 11 months ago
@TheMl63
if you know better, then present your evidences and reasons. You could not present anything to support your case and so you make false accusations against me.
Prove me wrong, it is a challenge. Quran records Abraham worshiped Sun, Moon and Stars. Now if you think that Quran is not an authority, then it is a different story.
PEACE...
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
that is the GREATES OF ALL..... YOU ARE FOOL.....
HA AHA HA AHA AHAHA A HAHA AHA AHA H
nazhalal 11 months ago
@nazhalal
:) Do you really think that Quran talks stupid? :)
If you disagree with Allah then it is your choice. I am just quoting Quran.
Be wise ! Be careful ! :)
PEACE
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
Quite honestly, i'd bow down and pray to the sun and moon and stars, at least I know my human notion of what they are exists.
Microtardz 1 year ago
@Microtardz
Quite honestly, you can create your own god satisfying your human notions. People sometime choose to worship a person or`a thing which seems to provide them some of their needs.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Why would I want to muddy up my views with a god? It truly saddens me that others cannot see the universe as a whole rather than a creation for them. To even begin to understand a fraction of what our universe truly is, is to of gained the knowledge of a 1000 lives.
I find it more satisfying to find the universe as it truly is, rather than as it is not.
A creator? That doesn't matter to me. Why worry about who created what, when all of the splendor is there to enjoy.
Microtardz 1 year ago
@Microtardz
:) You are free to choose and enjoy whatever you like... but as you read on many billboard... You will be judged whether you like it or not...
You can just shrug it off or seek the God.
Again, choice is yours.
have a wonderful time on the earth...
Peace and love...
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Often times they're more saying i'm anti-american or a terrorist for not believing in god.
Again I ask, what is the point of a shackled freedom? Why should non-believers in something that has no evidence what so ever in it existing, in this case a god, be punished.
Thats like me going to a car lot, and the car lot telling me to pay 15k upfront without seeing the car, and threatening to rob me if I don't pay. When in reality, the car doesn't fking exist.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Microtardz 1 year ago
@Microtardz
You miss something. There are many things that exists but you cannot see and probably will never realise they exist. e.g. stars far far away about which even astrophysicist do not know. Existence of Black Hole is fairly recent finding. Where they not existing before? Their effects were there but no one recognised it.
i can understand you but Unseen GOD exists whether you like it or not.
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all I think you're not realizing something.
God isn't the only theory out there for how the universe started.
Furthermore, the extreme lack of evidence for an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient deity.
That is personally involved with human life and created life as it modernly known.
Is simply too disprovable.
We know why things happen, we know life wasn't created as it is now. And we can experiment with prayer and prove it doesn't work.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
Did you notice you used word "theory"? I agree there are many theories about GOD and "birth" of universe. Some says Steady State Theory and some says Big Bang Theory.
What is life? What makes you alive and a stone dead?
We do not know how things happened in many many cases. Science awaits for many answers and developing theories. Human knowledge is not even a drop when compared ocean of unknown to us. e.g. Why electron shows duality?
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all We can define life. Furthermore, a good question for you is, what makes scientists consider viruses as non-living?
Life has many different forms and it's possible that it takes a form completely unknown to us.
Which sounds more honest? Accepting a hypothesis that god created the universe.
Or admitting we don't know the answer yet, but we're going to keep looking for it.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
You accept that life can have a form completely unknown to us. We call a life form as GOD what is wrong in it?
Why don't you try to define life as understood by you? I will dent your definition for your benefit. :) Honestly !
For me science is a tool by which we understand our surroundings with our senses. Science finds answers but it is not creating anything. Considering GOD as Creator does not stop or limit anyone to find out how universe was created, how it was done?
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all Actually, they gets rid of the mystery. Furthermore believing in something that is baseless does not show open mindedness.
Also, another life form is not limited to GOD. What about aliens? Are they suddenly gods?
Life is something that can reproduce.
This is why viruses are border-line. They can't reproduce without a host-cell that is living.
Otherwise, they're just dna/rna in a protein shell.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
There are far more mysteries science can solve. My faith in God never closed my mind to look at things and find out whys and hows? I still intrigues me to learn about how this universe came into existence even though i know GOD created it. BUT how? that is my question. I do not reject string theory and keep my mind closed. I am ready to learn and know more.
Why should faith in GOD stop me or you or anyone from exploring nature and science?
Can an electron reproduce?
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all Can an electron reproduce? Really?? No, it can't. as far as I know i've never heard of an electron reproducing asexually or otherwise.
Furthermore, that is closing your mind. How did god create the universe? That means you lost the much broader question of How did the universe come into existence?
You limited it to how did god do it.
And I perceive doing that on "faith", is rather ridiculous.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
So, is an electron dead? and yet it show dual nature depending on lab instruments. Anyway, how about an atom, a molecule? do they reproduce?
You are right if you lose focus on "HOW" universe came into existence and try to see "WHO" did it. For me "who" is already known but I am seeking HOW he did that. I know who switched on the bulb. I am analysing circuit and its components and figuring out HOW bulb glow.
May be u r closed on GOD so very mention of HIM shuts u off from HOW
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all Or... Maybe i'm not closed on God but instead of saying he's the Who, i'd rather look for evidence of that as well? You're coming to the conclusion i'm saying god cannot exist? Hah.
What shows nature, or its nature. Does not mean it is living by our definition.
Our definition of life fits us, and other animals.
To us, atoms and electrons are non-living. Not dead.
You had to be considered alive first to be dead.
Is this a hard concept to grasp?
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
So the difference is you are worried about who more than how. For me, I am comfortable to investigate how things happen. My faith in GOD does not stop me.
Even Science does not look for answer as it theorises. From where singularity came and created BigBang in great nothing. How space is created or comes in existence in nothingness? There are no theories to these. I hope you can differentiate between space and nothingness.
How about a Eunuch? it cannot reproduce, is it dead?
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all *facepalm* You're using dead in swap with non-living. This is incorrect.
He would still be living until his heart stopped beating because he did at one time have the parts to reproduce.
Furthermore, the big bang isn't a theory we came from nothing *facepalmx2*
Furthermore, who, is only a factor. Of what i'm concerned about how all this exists.
I'm not more concerned about it, it's just a factor, that may or may not be.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
It was fun watching you hitting your face with your palm :)) LOL
do more often!! It was your stupidity *\yourfacewithyourpalm/* that u thought i am basing my argument on big bang and trying to refute it as the beginning. Check in depth about string theory. u didnt google and learn about it when i mentioned it. u thought you know enough :) may be but not enough to match me... do i have to write each step so that u can follow me?
many r born eunuch. do they have life?
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all Many are born eunuch? Really? A negative mutation. It sux for them, I question your use of the word many. Or any at all.
But they still have life as if it wasn't for a mutation they would've been able to reproduce.
Nice ad-hominem. Check in depth about hydrogen naturally occurring in the cosmos and a reaction causing gravity condensing the gas into a super condensed sub atomic particle that imploded and created the universe.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
Ok, so we understood what is life. You didnt mention about molecules and atoms but i take it that you consider them as dead. Now when you were born what was your weight? Now how much you weigh? You accumulated pounds of atoms -trillions and much much more which are dead ... ur whole body is made up of molecules and u are ALIVE instead of dead. Who is alive in u?
u said "naturally occurring hydrogen in the cosmos" LOL LOL u know NULL! 4 u, cosmos and H2 were exsisting b4 BBang:))
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all Furthermore. Why electron shows duality?
Do you mean the wave particle duality? Light?
Why it shows it? Because, that's what it is. A dual wave particle emission from our sun. That's why it shows it.
Are you speaking of the origins of that?
Furthermore, you do realize a theory has evidence backing it, or at least theoretical physics backing it.
Unlike Deity's, that are a hypothesis. Not a theory.
Microtardz 8 months ago
@Microtardz
Why electron is such? An electron beam can act as a wave and also a particle. Who decides what nature electron will show? Does electron has consciousness? I will be glad if you will point to some theories backed by evidences -even from theoretical physics.
It is your hypothesis that electrons are created such. They may not! If someone in 16th century had suggested duality then how scientists would have reacted? Science is a never ending journey. Don't think we know all.
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
@truthofjesus4all Who decides what nature it will show? Why does it have to be a who?
Why are you instantly hopping to a deity?
The big bang itself is backed up by strong theoretical physics.
Don't think we know all?
When did I say we did?
I have no answer to how the universe started. I don't believe in the big bang. Nor do A I believe in your deity.
Merely pointing out it is a theory.
Microtardz 8 months ago
this dumb person uses the green photo and write al wahad alahad to mislead Muslims and attract them to see his videos hes a dumb christian using dishonest method to preach dont u have your own style? doesnt ur bible have its own greek words? why do u need the Qur'an words to explain your God Jesus? shame on u. u contradicted urself u preach against the Qur'an and yet u need its words to preach ur own God to make ur god sound very powerful 3 gods cant be 1 u dummy..
mowiththeo 1 year ago
@mowiththeo
This smart person showed the world how Muslims present themselves when confronted and questioned by using their own scriptures.
As we can see that instead of explaining anything relevent, he showed his own misunderstanding as some kind of proof.
May Allah show mercy on him...
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
this dumb person uses the green photo and write al wahad alahad to mislead Muslims and attract them to see his videos hes a dumb christian using dishonest method to preach dont u have your own style? doesnt ur bible have its own greek words? why do u need the Qur'an words to explain your God Jesus? shame on u. u contradicted urself u preach against the Qur'an and yet u need its words to preach ur own God to make ur god sound very powerful 3 gods cant be 1 u dummy..
mowiththeo 1 year ago
God Knows before the person is born where his destination is... U ask why create him or her if He Knows already? It is because He wanted to create Humans that can make mistakes & SIN but then Turn Back To ALLAH... what are you christian or hindu podu or some dumb athiest? ur right when u said get a life cuz a person Who talks to u must have no life cuz U are some sad low life person that deserve to used as a slave & us ppl shud have gd life so there is no need to talk to a slave like u..lol
mowiththeo 1 year ago
@mowiththeo
:)) Brother, thanks for your comment... Your wisdom is over flowing...
Go to your imam and find out what is qadar and ask him, "Did Allah fixe sin of shirk in life of Abraham or did he commit shirk by his own freewill?"
Share your views freely BUT do not take away right of thers to do the same...
Do not fear the truth...
peace and love of Allah be with you
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
prophets were not angels , they were not born as prophets from thier mothers wombs .
dear who apload ths video ,try to understand first your bible ,cuse it seems to me if you understand your bible you wont do like ths video anymore .
PEACE .
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@TheNomidian
So they sinned, right?
And why do you bring in the Bible? Creating diversion and avoiding to confess that Allah caused sin of shirk in the life of Abraham.
Feel free to give you views and avoid creating diversion. Quran cannot automatically be considered as true if you prove pagan scripture is false. SO focus and learn... and share...
PEACE
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
Its Simple Allah Knows what Pharoh Were going to say before he said it He knows if your going Hell or Paradise but still gives you the oppertunity to choose. And The Sun,Moon & stars are Signs That this Galaxy, Earth,Moon, stars & everything else can't have come by a chance God Almighty Allah Lord of the worlds created them. Got it? I hope your seeking the truth & not just attacking or trying to disprove the Very Words of your Lord Allah. Jesus is Not God! God has No Beginning Jesus did hv.think
mowiththeo 1 year ago
@mowiththeo
LOL.... still he give opportunity to choose.... LOL
Brother, you do not understand your own words... You think this is a religious debate and you must defend Islam. :))
Get some life...
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Listen Up Patt Patt Hindu podu with messed up accent.. I gave u the answer for your attacks but of course u dnt want answers u just wana attack.. And writting LOL isint a refute either.. And Once U try to ask dumb questions I have to answer them otherwise why put them there from 1st place? I answer them & u say LOL u think this is debate? why why put the video there for fame? U need to get a life...
mowiththeo 1 year ago
@mowiththeo
Dear Brother,
Salam...
Many Muslims make an excuse by accusing attack on Islam because they cannot answer a valid question. They think, some how, if they will say it is an attack on islam then the question will automatically become invalid.
I am commenting this here to let you know that your comments are read and your answeres are found with errors and irrelevant. You need to seek help from other Muslims who know about qadar and islamic perspective.
Learn and save my time!
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Furthermore, Do you believe in fairies??? How about unicorns? Now what if I told you, that you will be tortured endlessly after you die for not believing in fairies and unicorns.
I can't prove they exist, you can't prove they don't exist.
Fairy tales tell me they exist, therefore they exist.
So obviously you're going to be tortured endlessly unless you do the gumdrop sugar loli-pop dance on the day of the 12 suns on planet Valenectorin. Enjoy.
Microtardz 1 year ago
@Microtardz
Do you believe in alien abduction? What science say about alien? What do you BELIEVE???
Faith is universal.
And, I believe in GOD not because I am afraid of eternal torture. That is ridiculous argument. I look around me at this magnificient universe and life and understand that such cannot be a beautiful accident. I realise that there must be a creator whom I call GOD.
I respect your choice to believe that u r product of an accident when some atoms decided they r alive.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@microtardz
Let us see what science say about why two electrons repel? Who told them to repel?
Before the big bang, who decided laws of Physics and electromagnetism. Were they eternally existing?
Science is a tool to observe what is happening around us. It does not decide what can exist and what cannot. It just observes... If it sees something new (to itself), it studies and try to understand how that works and exists and find new laws.
Science is always fair but men are not!!!
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all The only problem with my argument of eternal torture, is that you're not plucking at the infinite strands of gods, to make a finite one.
Other than that, if you were christian, it's quite obvious the argument isn't illogical or ridiculous. Because if punishment didn't matter, then punishment wouldn't exist.
The punishment must have then been created to attempt to convince that such would exist.
Microtardz 1 year ago
@Microtardz
Christianity strive on the fact that it accept relationship with GOD, the Creator. It has nothing to do with heaven or hell. God compared HIS relationship with mankind with relationship of husband and wife. You love in sun and in rain. What is your goal and focus? A loving relationship with your beloved. Now imagine wife deserting her husband.
if punishment was to convince, judgement day should be the FIRST and not warnings. Judgement is result of our choices, not God's doing!
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Islam also strives on the fact that it accept relationship with GOD, the Creator. Its Christians and Athiests who think it has to do with heaven or hell always. There was a daughter of a catholic priest who converted to Islam because she didnt feel that relationship on telling her sins through a priest to connect with god, she felt more of a one on one connection with God in Islam, I forgot her name but I have the dvd of her talk a University during the 80's...i will upload it
mizsay 1 year ago
@mizsay
:) you said "Islam also strives on the fact that it accept relationship with GOD, the Creator." Brother, kindly discuss your understanding with a learned imam. You have very weak foundation in Islam OR you are not a true Muslim as defined by Muslims.
Second, the girl who converted to islam has no idea that one can pray directly to GOD and that shows her depth in Christian faith. No wonder she was not rooted in the truth and so rejected eternal life.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@mowiththeo
did you meet your imam and learned some islam?
i know it is hard for you to learn anything yourself :) because you are always spoon fed :)
truthofjesus4all 8 months ago
excuse me, i dont see any of your words concern me. What you have just stated is merely blind accusation. dont even come near the point. have you heard the terms straw man? thank you for being one. :)
mhsy 1 year ago
@mhsy
What did I accuse?
Trying to make a red herring out of me? Grow up and learn to focus on the topic !!!
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
unlike the bible which says that abraham on his way to sacrifice ishmael he used to lie to his son by saying that they are going to hunt the qr'an corrects this information and says that abraham asked ishmael about this (he was a prophet and prophets dont lie) and ishmael said "do what you must and may allah let me be one of the patient ones."
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
I think your comment is irrelevant to the current video.
Genesis 22. “The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?” Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” ... He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood.
I could not find where Abraham said to his son that they are going to hunt. Note, name of son, Isaac, is clearly mentioned. isn't it true that u r misguided?
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Note, name of son, Isaac, is clearly mentioned. isn't it true that u r misguided?
the qor'an said it was ishmael...how do u know that ur not misguided?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
the old scripture is preserved from generation and no prophet ever said that the scriptures are corrupted. The copies of earlier manuscripts can be refered that it was Issac and not ishmael. God HIMSELF had said to Abraham that abraham's descendents would be counted through Issac. For more info. Watch my video title Deut 18:18. God always called HIM as GOD of Abraham and Issac and Jacob.
There are ample reasons to understand that it was Issac and not Ishmael.
PEACE...
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
...6:78
Indeed, I have turned my face toward He who created the heavens and the earth, inclining toward truth, and I am not of those who associate others with Allah ."6:79
And his people argued with him. He said, "Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me? And I fear not what you associate with Him [and will not be harmed] unless my Lord should will something. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember?6:80
khalilrabee 1 year ago
So when the night covered him [with darkness], he saw a star. He said, "This is my lord." But when it set, he said, "I like not those that disappear." 6:76
And when he saw the moon rising, he said, "This is my lord." But when it set, he said, "Unless my Lord guides me, I will surely be among the people gone astray."6:77
And when he saw the sun rising, he said, "This is my lord; this is greater." But when it set, he said, "O my people, indeed I am free from what you associate with Allah .
khalilrabee 1 year ago
the tribe of abraham used to worship some statues and he didnt agree with this...he believed in the existance of one god so he started searching to see who this god is...
so he sees a star and when he saw that it disapeared he changed his mind...
then the moon and he said "this is my god" and when he saw that it disapeared he changed his mind and also the sun until god spoke to him...
after that he went to statues of his tribe and he destroyed them...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Thanks brother for posting the verses. Now Muslims will be benefited. Please know that I had read these ayahs and their ommision or inclusion does not affect what I am saying.
I simply pointed out that Abraham committed shirk which was fixed by Allah if Quran is eternal. You accepted that Abraham didn't have clue of true God. So from the time he called a star as his GOD to the time when he rejected sun as his GOD, he was worshipping false GODs. Such is revealed in Quran.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@khalilrabee (continue)
As you can see that I totally agree with you. I am just pointing out two things:
1. If Quran is eternal then Allah fixed sin of shirk for Abraham.
2. If Quran is not eternal, Abraham committed shirk by himself by freewill.
If you like you can add, 3. Prophets can commit sins. They are not sinless as thought in Islam.
I agree that Abraham turned from shirk and remained a true Muslim then onwards. Kindly tell me how much time Abraham took to turn to Allah?
Peace.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all i dont know how much time because hes changing of mind is in the sam verses that say he thought the star, moon and sun were allah...
he didnt commit shirk..he was seeking to know allah and when he started thiking about it he saw the star so he thought that maybe allah is the star...he didnt say "teh stars are gods" he believed in one god but he didnt know who this god was...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
I will argue but let you sort out by yourself.
I will just add that, you think that Abraham was seeking God until he found allah. Note that till he found Allah, he addressed star, moon and sun as "my God." So even if you like to believe that Abraham was seeking one God, he indeed found this one God in star, moon and sun before Allah was revealed.
God's words are clear guidance. We do not need to add meaning to it to support our beliefs. That is my view.
Thanks 4 sharing.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all qor'an is eternal and it is in "allawh almahfud"...
and thats allahs knowledge...u are trying to compair allahs knowledge with our knowledge which is impossible...his knowledge is infinite while ours is very limited...
so we cant say what qadar really is..thats why qadar is the last pillar of iman...
we do know that allah knows what we are going to do and what we think but we cant say that we are limited because we are able to think so we have free will...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Well, let explain what I think based on what you said.
If Quran is eternal, then Abraham was predestined to say "my God" to star, moon and sun. That means Allah fixed that in life of Abraham. Same way unbelief was predestined for Pharoh. Thus, both are not responsible for their actions. No one can be rewarded for good and punished for bad qadar.
The problem is how much is defined by Qadar and how much is left to freewill. Use of freewill is paradox to God's omniscience.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all alqadar is divine predestination...it is the last of the pillars of faith because its the hardest to believe and we can not understand...yes god knew pharaoh will not repent until he will be close to death but pharaoh had his chance to believe in god before that...we cant compair our will to gods will...
we're living in the universe and god created the universe thus he is not controlled by the laws of the universe but we are...
its simply something we can not understand
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Now if you think, you cannot understand predestination and other things then how can you stop others for having views contradicting to yours?
Second, from available information from Quran and other secular knowledge, we can analyse and derive things concerning predestination. it does not need that we must have full understanding to understand little things.
third, predestination as per islam definitely takes away freewill and you fail to explain why it is not such.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all god is allknowing. allseeing...meaning that he knows absolutely everything so there must be a qadar...if we would say that god didnt know what pharaoh is going to say it means he is not god because he didnt know...
but this doesnt mean that we dont have free will because we can think and we can chose...
about abraham and his son...it doenst matter which one it was but the qor'anic story provides us a moral teaching...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Wrong, it seems you know everything about GOD or define GOD and HIS capacity. Qadar as understood by islam take away true freewill. Islam teaches that man has limited freewill but in that also if final outcome depend on the person, then the outcome cannot be known by Allah until actual action is taken. This is issue of philosophy and in ALL religion predestination and freewill and omniscience of God r hotly discussed. So kindly share your views freely, v r not talkin any religion.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all qadar as understood by islam doesn take any free will it didnt take mine or others free will..its very obvious...but in the same time god knows everything right? can u say that god doesnt know something? doesnt know the future? no he does but the qor'an says that every persoj is responsible for his actions...so its obvious that we have free will and in the same time we are predestined...how? allah knows how...the problem is that ur trying to compair our knowledge with his...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
:) You are right in one think that there is some problem and it is solution is "Allah knows..." If such answers can be considered as true and final answer then there is no point in discussing or sharing our views. To any question, you can say "Allah knows..." and claim you answered it correctly.
Why are you afraid to address the issue and meditate how two contradicting things can exist. You choose simple exit "Allah knows", while I think and try to understand God's ways. PEACE
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all abraham didnt simply take his son and tell him "god himself will provide the lamb" while he was on his way to kill his son...and the bible doesnt even mention how he put his son on the stone considering that he didnt tell him the truth...did they fight or argue?
the qor'an tells usthat he asked for his sons opinion and his son told him to do what he must do and may allah make him one of the patient ones...thats a moral teaching....the bible version doesnt teach anything good
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Brother, you said that Bible recorded that Abraham spoke a lie. I simply aske you show me from the Bible or take back your words.
We can discuss Abraham and what is recorded in the Bible once you confess your error.
Your way to measure what is right and wrong is strange if not totally wrong. You presume that Quran is true and then read other scriptures and measure them. By that way you can believe (convert/present) any lie as a truth.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all i dont have any error to confess....
urself told me that he told isac "god himself will provide us the lamb" right? i made an error about the hunting yes and i take that back but not the lieing...
abraham was on his way to sacrifice his son and his son asks him where they are goin or something like that and abraham instead of telling the truth he tells him "god himself will provide the lamb"...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
You said "unlike the bible which says that abraham on his way to sacrifice ishmael he used to lie to his son by saying that they are going to hunt the qr'an corrects this information". This is not a mistake BUT big claim. You need to apologise for making such a big mistake even if it is ignorance.
And didn't God HIMSELF provide the sacrifice?
And know that the Bible shows everyone as they are unlike Islam falsely claims prophets are sinless.
Stop comparing truth with lies!
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all and i dont know why ur trying to prove to me that theres no immoral teaching in the bible whle the very same abraham of the bible sells his wife twice once to the king of egypt and once to melchisedeq...
do u deny this? and after that his son tries to do that to...isac...and yet present them as if they were still saints...what logic is that? what languege?
the qor'an shows the pure stories and these things of the bible can not be other than the words of man not god...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Brother, you do not want to understand that is why you are far from the truth. The Bible records the truth. It carries many true stories. It records mistakes and sins of saints as well as people like pharoh. You cannot read what pharoh did from the Bible (or Quran) and LEARN how to defy Allah.
Pure stories do not mean they are word of God. Islam Glorifies prophets and Quran to project them as ideal and perfect but truth is different.
No wonder you cannot see the truth.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all the qor'an doesnt say the prophets are sinless in fact mohammad made mistakes and the qor'an criticises him...but saying that a prophet after comunicating with god sells his wife twice is way over the edge of comprehension
khalilrabee 1 year ago
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@TheNomidian
You are proving what everyone is saying from the beginning. You are the one who is misguided and think that God's saints cannot do mistake or sin.
You said prophets are not angel or born prophets and so it is possible that Mohammad (like Abraham) might have worshipped an idol as Mecca was center of idol worship or he may be a Christian and prayed to Jesus or Mary. It is possible that Mohammad was led to an idol to worship by his elders. just thinking...
u said what v say.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@khalilrabee the bible talks about Mariam the Prophetess !!!! Exo. 15:20
And so his sister Mariam the Prophetess dances, she took a tremble and
dances with the women
[Judg. 16:1]
And he went to Gaza, and there he saw a HARLOT, and he went into her. !!!!
Judah fornicates with his daughter-in-law: Ta'-mar. !!!!
Gen. 38:15
DAVID'S SON WITH HIS SISTER (2.Sam. 13:1) wow how much the bible is truthful !!!!
brother those christians dont read nor understand thier corrupted bible .
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@TheNomidian i know they dont read it...they are more intereseted in the qor'an than their own book...
christianity is dropping and if every single christian would read the bible christianity would drop even faster...
telling blasphemies about prophets...
and the thing is that the bible presents them as very bad sinners but god doesnt tell them anything...so he aproves anythign they do...(but they didnt do any of that...they were prophets chosen by god and he knows why he chose them)
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Brother, you first decide what is right and wrong and then you read a book and think it is right or wrong. By your standard there are MANY fictional book which you can consider at par with Quran because they are nice and without blasphemies against prophets.
Have you read the bible? Did God allow a sin to go unpunish? Clearly, you do not seek truth. After Abraham's shirk what did Allah do? By your own scale you do not measure Quran. Afraid of truth???
PEACE.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all lets say im abraham and god comunicates with me...
after comunicating with god i sell my wife once to the king of egypt...and my deal fails, i leave egypt and i sell my wife again...and my son tries to sell his wife too...how on earth does that make sense man?
the bible is corrupted and the bible says its corrupted (i cant remember which book, chapter and verse)...
so how can u say it isnt corrupted? how can u say it isnt corrupted and changed when u know it was changed?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all how on earth can u say that the bible didnt change while its constantly changing??
is this a christian joke?? check the new bibles u have notes which say "this verse isnt found in the old scriptures"...so why on earth is that verse still there? are u kidding me? how can u say that the bible isnt corrupted while u know very well that the 4 gospels were canonised because they are the closest to pagan roman beliefs? why do u think emperor constantin became a christian...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all and u know very well all this stuff and yet claim that the bible isnt changed but its the pure word of god...how on earth does that make sense man?
khalilrabee 1 year ago
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@khalilrabee the bible says it will be corrupted . 1 - Book of Jeremiah, Chapter 8, Verse 8 it says this
8 " 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely " !!!it is very clear from the text that the scribes ve corrupted thelaw with their "pens" .
2-Deut 31:25-29 : The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted.
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@khalilrabee peace be on you all , whitch of those sentences re true :
2 Sam. 24:1 God provoked David against Israel, and said: Go and number them.
1 Chron. 21:1 Satan provoked David ...them ( !!! god or satan wchich verse is true ? )
-[Math. 1:16] said : Joseph the carpenter is the son of Jacob.
-[Luke 3:23] said :Joseph the carpenter is the son of He'-li
let our friend " truthofjesus4all " tell us , who is lying mathew or luke .?
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@TheNomidian lol its very obvious from the bible itself that what the qor'an says its true...if christians say they believe in the bible then they should believe its corrupted...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@TheNomidian
:) it is funny that you want to learn how bad you can be :)
Bible truthfully records evil of saints and others and points to the fact that we all are sinners and that is our nature. It is YOU who have to say how a person gets sinful nature and when it ends (for example, in prophethood etc).
kindly make a point and know that you cannot decide that the Bible is corrupt because it records sins of people. If Quran only glorifies people, then more likely it is corrupted.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all hhh , friend . you contradict yourself , why ! CUZ you blame the QURAN when it describes how abraham was guided to the real GOD . but you didnt blame ur bible that says prophets were naked .....
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Prophet Ibrahim is one of the greatest Prophets of Allah. The Holy Qur'an says: Ibrahim was certainly a model of faith for the people, obedient to Allah and upright, and was not an idolater but grateful to Him for His favours; so He chose him and guided him on the right path, and gave him what is good in this world, and in the hereafter he will be amongst the righteous ones. (Quran 16:120-122)
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all neither abraham nor mohamed worshiped any idol ,that thier people worship ,both of them have hated idol worship. , when he had asked those questions that you think re shirk ,he was looking for the truth ,thier parents were idols worshipers .
i told you before try just to understand your bible ,cuse the bible mentioned that it will be corrupted , also the bible says jesus didnt die on the cross , also prophecied coming of mohamed peace be on him .
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all if you want proofs , with pleasure friend . !!!!! biblical proofs .
peace.
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all the bible says prophets ( holy men) says lies , !!!!!!!!!!!!
[Jer 14:14]
The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not neither have I
commanded them, neither spoke unto them.
TheNomidian 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Instead of making videos go fix your accent hindu pudu dont spend all your time reading the Qur'an and explainning it according to your own Understanding and not even according to the Scholars you have no life doing these videos.. You must have been bored to death to make that video but Keep that video up till You die & see the truth for yourself InshAllah.. & that video will be used against u cuz us Muslims answered your questions & yet U laughed & said no i am hindu dumb pudo
mowiththeo 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
The Bible had recorded from the beginning how saints fell to sin. It is Muslims who need to glorify Mohammad so that they can believe in ahadith without questioning.
If Jews wanted to hide and change the scriptures then they would have removed all what you think as "over the edge of comprehension" but they didn;t because they could comprehend that all men are fallible and all sin.
You are rejecting the old truth based on your new beliefs.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
This is illogical nonsense, please read a Qur'an exegeses than trying to interpret the Holy Qur'an with your limited knowledge out of context as is a habit of christian brethrens 4 the bible. Seriously.However if you are sincere than just trying to create faults of which I believe is rather the latter with my experience of your channel, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you to start reading the best exegeses of Qur'an: almizan(dot)org, lets see if you dont change by its Ocean :)
MAFHHZB 1 year ago
@MAFHHZB
Dear brother,
Does your favourite, the best exegeses of Qu'ran says that Abraham didn;t commit shirk? Then it shows how words of Quran are changed.
When i went to almizan's site it took me to shiasource(dot)com. seems Quran interpretation in this tafsir will not be same as Sunni tafsir. I found tafsir of only FEW sura and not sura 6 used in this video. There was a puddle, no ocean...So far, you proved that you can talk BIG but all empty and vain.
have a blessed day...PEACE
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all
The exegeses of the entire book is available in Arabic. In English only until there has it been translated and the work is going along. If you haven't cared to read even the Preface (so you may understand why is it to valuable in the first place), you might not be a deep reader, just too hasty. Let me provide you an abridged Exegeses Book (a summary exegeses of all surahs are available), and this will be more than enough for your capacity. "quran(dot)al-islam(dot)org"
MAFHHZB 1 year ago
now i have a question...the person the verses refer to is ibrahim but why didnt u quote the other things he says? is it ignorance? allah dint fix a sin to abraham...
abraham actually says after that "i do not like the ones who set"...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
@khalilrabee
Brother, I do know what Abraham said but did you analyse his words? In another comment I said: "Abraham thought star, moon and sun set and thus they are not god. In this, Abraham seems careless as he hurriedly called star his God. Then quickly changed to moon and then to sun. No wise person will change his decisions about God so quickly."
It is also unclear that whether Abraham checked whether Allah sets or not by the standard he used to "find" his God. Interesting, isn't it?
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
first proghet Ibraheem was looking for a true god i think it is easy proghet befor his message looks for true god , and allah send angel gebreel or gebraeal as u say told him about allah , allah who worshipped by Ibraheem , moses , jesus and mohamed allah prophets look for true god , all prophets worshipped allah
Ibraheem,Moses,Jesus and mohamed , if u open ur bible u will find jesus was a good worshipper to allah
birdware105 1 year ago
@birdware105
Brother, this video is showing from Quran that Abraham called star, moon and sun as "My GOD". So it is possible that he might have worshipped other gods before Allah revealed himself. Unfortunately, Quran does not tell how Allah revealed Himself to Abraham but points that when Abraham saw star, moon and sun, he called them as his gods.
The video ends with questions like why Allah FIXED sin of shirk in life of Abraham. By deeds and by faith Abraham was NOT WORTHY as per Quran.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
Does not the Creator of the universe and everything in between ,knows the present the future and the past?Why does you not use your brain?Are you seeing yet do not see,hearing yet do not hear and thinking yet do not conceive?Are you stupid?one plus one plus one equal to ONE?If you claim Jews crucified Jesus why are you defending them?Are you from Synagogue of Satan? "We narrate unto you the story of Moses and Pharaoh with truth,for folk who believe "28:3 -------FOR FOLK WHO BELIEVE,not YOU!
111256able 1 year ago
@111256able
Your comment is irrelevant to the subject of video. The video shows that Allah FIXED sin of shirk in the life of Abraham. WHY??? Abraham was not worthy to receive favour of Allah because he worshipped star, moon and sun and thus he was a failure in deeds and faith.
And I can easily show you 1 + 1 = 10 if you want to learn...
The light of truth is shining... come into light...
JEsus said, "I am light of the WORLD."
PEACE
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all IF you SAID 1+1`=10 hEHEHEHEH wHAT AM i TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE?yOU NEED HELP DUDE!! wE HAVE NO ARGUMENT ON jESUS IS THE LIGHT. wE ARE WORRY ABOUT YOU MY FRIEND,bLIND TO THAT LIGHT.hAVING eYES BUT CAN'T SEE.ABRAHAM Like any other Prophets had not committed any sins.We Muslims believe Prophets are sinless ! If you have a problem with that,thats your problem not ours.!
111256able 1 year ago
A religion of right,the path(trod) by Abraham,the true in faith,and he CERTAINLY did not ascribe partners to Allah6:161 Abraham was indeed a model,devoutly obedient to Allah,true in faith,and he joined not gods with Allah 6:120
111256able 1 year ago
@111256able
Abraham calles start, moon and sun as per Quran. Now if somewhere else Quran records that Abraham always had true faith then it is contradiction of Quran itself.
Kindly address this contradiction. You choose and define religion of Islam as per your beliefs and understanding and NOT as found in Quran.
When Abraham called star, moon and sun as "My GOD", it was FIXED by Allah before creation if u think Quran is eternal word of Allah. Shirk was fixed from Abraham by Allah. PEACE
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all how is that any different then how the king james bible says god placed the world on pillars & that the sky is a blanket thrown over the world? There is no science in religion.
matthewlane 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Theres no contradiction in Koran,only your short comings of understanding it.Many Top biblical scholars, more learned than you had converted to Islam after scrutinizing the Koran.I wonder why God has not chosen You .Maybe you had done some BIG mistakes and had no ask for forgiveness from God.OR You are just doing some cheap job for some groups who are active now belittling Islam.Well if you are doing that I can understand because maybe you need the money to feed your family.!
111256able 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all May be its YOU that God was referring to when He said,"Its the same whether you tell them or you do not tell them,they will not believe" Abraham had never referred the Sun or Moon as God.So please stop your foolish nonsense.For 1400 over years the whole world knows, even your imminent scholars that Muslims nor the Koran had made such a Moronic claim.Have you no shame?
111256able 1 year ago
They say:"Become Jews or Christians if you would be guided(to salvation)"You say "Nay!(I would rather)the religion of Abraham ,the true, and he not join gods with Allah" 2:135 Follow the religion of Abraham,the true in faith: he was not those who ascribed partners to Allah 3:95 Who can be better in religion than the one who submits his whole life to Allah,does good and follows the way of Abraham,the true in faith?4:125
111256able 1 year ago
@111256able
Thanks brother for showing the internal contradiction of Quran. Once Quran shows how Abraham called star, moon and sun as "My God." and later Quran claims "he was not those who ascribed partners with Allah".
It is possible that Abraham was an idol worshippwer before he found Allah. As such the verses you quoted does not suggest Abraham was always of true faith. In any case, Abraham committed shirk as per Quran.
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truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all I highly recommend reading these chapters! :))
artistdigital 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Ive made clear to you that Abraham was not an idol worshiper and Ive showed you verses to prove just that.but you still keep on repeating your nonsense. How old are you? 14 years old?
111256able 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Contradiction?What is your goal Dude? You are not even good at being sarcastic what more ,to discuss a serious subject like RELIGION. I think you should stop trying to be some kind of Preacher because you don't have the basic knowledge of religion and the making of a great scholar.I think you should go back to your normal self .Go watch "American Idol" or go clubbing or dating your girlfriend,like you normally do.You are now, just wasting other peoples' time.Enjoy yourself !
111256able 1 year ago
Now its easy for you read the Quran out its context with the vers 10:90 did you read 10:89/91. I geuss you didnt!
And the other vers i already expained now try to read english and do some real-research before making arguments like you said i did! ;)
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980
This video is about Abraham and how he committed sin of shirk which was fixed by Allah (if u think Quran is eternal).
I used quote from sura 10 to point out that Quran also records words spoken by Pharoh. But you can say that Allah spoke through Pharoh. In any case, it was Pharoh's mouth from where the words came.
Brother, as I told you umpteenth of time: Learn and grow up.
Quran records Abraham did have polluted beliefs. You are just showing contradiction within Quran.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
[6:82] Those who believe, AND DO NOT POLLUTE THERE BELIEF WITH IDOL WORSHIPING, have deserved the perfect security, and they are truly guided.
Now either you cant read english or the video is a whole mistake?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980
Thanks for showing contradiction of Quran as we can see in case of Abraham who had polluted belief and yet it is claimed by Muslim (and may be also in Quran) that Abraham had true faith.
Your investigate...So far, it seems you, Quran and Muslims are in error while this video remains true as it is not offering any interpretation but merely quoting Quran and raises the right questions. Kindly address those questions.
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truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all Qeuoting something out of context is very easy, the person below me already explained you the verses so why even keep this video on? Instead of going in a debate with someone on this topic you refer to spread lies, if you dont understand something ask information and dont spread your misunderstandings
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980
Who explained the verses i used in this video? Brother, I replied almost all comments so check my reply, too. Do i have to tell you that anyone can comment and answer me but we have to test whether the answer is true or not. An explanation can be wrong!
Kindly show me what i quoted out of context but first tell me what is a context and how YOU will find it.
Learning is key, without that door of knowledge cannot open.
Peace to you and your family...
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
@truthofjesus4all with an IQ<15 You can not understand
what a stupid Question that is..
Abraham is never been is shirk..
he always new there is one god. while seeking him. he felt confused and lonely. and with his beautiful mind compared things around him. and found the truth.
without searching god. How should he became an example for humanity???
what a stupid video.. such a time wasting.
JanisdEhun 1 year ago
Heeeeheheh Nice try, but Muslims never interprete that verse as desperately as you wanted others to believe. If i were to say ," You ARE A fool" AND "yOU ARE A fool?"dOES BOTH MEANS THE SAME?One is a statement while the other is a question.They look similar,yet each hold different meanings.And I don't think i have to spell it out for you,because you re definitely not a fool ,not to understand that!
111256able 1 year ago
@111256able
Brother, punctuation mark like "?" "." and others are important. Similarly vowels are also important to pronounce the correct words.
Anyway, I have not interpreted anything in this video but raised the right questions like why Allah fixed sin of shirk in the life of Abraham. Do explain your post a little bit more as it is unclear to me. I am not as smart as you think :) ... I am just like you.
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truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
It speaks of Abraham(pbuh) when he(pbuh) became inquisitive about finding the real God! He started questioning. This happened to many of the Prophets when they were to be awarded Prophethood!! my opinion by just watching till 0:31
artistdigital 1 year ago
@artistdigital
Brother, I request you to look closely at the Quran verses. Kindly note that Abraham was watching but did he see Allah? Second, Abraham thought star, moon and sun set and thus they are not god. In this, Abraham seems careless as he hurriedly called star his God. Then quickly changed to moon and then to sun. No wise person will change his decisions about God so quickly.
Kindly tell me which other prophets committed shirk before coming to Allah.
Thanks 4 ur fb. appreciated.
truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
In my experiences, Allah is Greater in saving us from the addictions of this world, and helps to heal the past wounds, Through giving us additional Hope and Faith, if you love Jesus, that is great, you can continue to Love Jesus, but worship the Creator of Jesus, Allah.
nazhalal 1 year ago
@nazhalal
Do you ever thought that people in all religion "experience" the same you experience about Allah? That is why we need to put aside how we feel about something and carefully put it to test.
Jesus said, "I give them eternal life..."
Jesus said, " Come to me and I will give you rest..."
Jesus fulfilled the law and established eternal kingdom of God. Do you like to be in the kingdom of God? You can enter through Jesus alone.
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truthofjesus4all 1 year ago
"And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah". Say: " Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth"? Glorified and Exalted is He above all that which they associate as partners with Him." (Holy Quran 10:18)
nazhalal 1 year ago
@nazhalal
Who are they?
If you will carefully read Quran, you will find that most of the time Mohammad addressed Quracies who have added partners with God.
Jews and Christians NEVER added partner with Allah because they believe in tawheed. It is different thing that they are accused of shirk without proof or because of misunderstanding. Show me a Jew or a Christian who says there are more than one God or three gods.
Have a blessed day as you investigate the truth without bias.
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truthofjesus4all 1 year ago