Hugh Ross : Objections to christianity 1 of 9 Apologetics

[Bobathefish]

*we must not forget that we still don't know how life began on this planet and it is pointless to assume that a (god) did it*

Why would that be pointless?

It's a question about our existence, no less. Why not hold the possibility open?

[waketherabble]

If Ross sides with the majority on M-theory, he would concede that since infinite parallel universes exists, then even I, who am an athiest, exist in infinite universes where I am a devout christian, and I will be "saved".

[grandconjunct]

The More intelligent alternate wakerabbles in other universes who accept Christ will be saved, but the less rational ones who would reject Christ would freely choose to be damned, but then If there is no God then those other alternate Jesus's will be different and send you to Hellish Universes or Heavenly Universes for different "reasons" and different universes will allow Naturalistic miracle free virgin births to take place. etc. Oh the wacky world of Multiverse!

[agnostaxian]

wake, lol thats a cool concept!

[ChiefClickClack]

There is "ZERO EVIDENCE" for the multiple bubble universe theroy.....

[grandconjunct]

Ok thanks for the criticism but I try to be nice, but i figure 99% of the people who read posts here are someone ether than myself or the person i am talking to , I preach to the peanut gallery, that statistics show the majority of whom think Christians are "Nice people but simpletons who know nothing about reality" I am trying to be one of the few Christian voices lovingly showing We also have the cold hard reality also! God has use for people like me sometimes.

[jamesmo01]

Fucking dirty ass subjective lie spewing mother fucker

[grandconjunct]

You "Rational Responders" are profound! I had not considered your Bright colorful objection? I will have to re-think my theism in light of this devastating rebuttal! (Note to Atheists Sarcasm was used in previous sentence!) Youtube may be a Big "God Sucks Rally" for angry young male atheists and their McAtheism Spam campaign! but we need logical arguments, not Dawkins unattractive cheer squad emoting ;D

[elroy2112]

Atheists always use the most ridiculous young earth interpretation of Gen 1, they can find to ridicule the bible. Ross and all Old earth creationists answered the Plants before the sun pseudo problem long long ago.

[crissyhowes]

I know your so right why do we always ridicule the young earth interpretation ,when there's so much other stuff in the bible to ridicule.

pillar of salt? who did Kane and able marry? abraham having dinner with god but he now wont show him self , the flood,

an exodus never recorded wow where to start?

[grandconjunct]

Mrs. Crissyhowes you must learn.

1). The bible does not teach a young earth , check out my Ross video.

2). Pillar of salt is a Miracle not a science thing your very confused.

3) Where did Cain get his wife at? he got her at Genesis 5:4 don't atheists read ?

4). God doesn't show himself" LOL really ? Got some bad news for you Crissy God showed himself to me in a physical body similar to Genesis 18 , I suspect he would have eaten if I had offered him Dinner to

you are not doing well here.

[grandconjunct]

5) evidence for flood , see an Author by the name of Hugh Ross you may have heard of him?

6). Exodus never recorded , its difficult to record an event when most of your nations was destroyed in the Miracle funny how atheists prefer to look for History of God's Miracles only where they are most unlikely to NOT be found while completely ignoring the manifold places where Historical evidence is bountiful.

Where to start ? How about with some facts if atheists can even muster any that is!

[geoffreyefloyd]

LOL i agree with everything you've said, I'm into apologetics (more of a William Lane Craig fan myself) but it maybe you're being a little bit harsh with crissy. Obviously he/she hasn't really looked into it much...knockdown rebuttals are not really the spirit of apologetics. Just my view ;)

[grandconjunct]

I see your channel has Zero videos on it geoffreyfloyd ? I predicted that. Y.T. is chock full of apologists / evangelists trying to wow atheists with their personalities, and syrupy sweet presentations , God bless them , I try to bring something novel to Y.T. , I like my channel, I am what I am, & think most churches would dis-fellowship the apostles if they came for a visit for not being sweet enough, start posting some videos then come back and lecture me on how to do this please.

[geoffreyefloyd]

wow...I don't have any problem with your channel. If your goal as a "You Tube" apologist is to bring viewers closer to christ, I feel a better way to do that is with sweet reason and christian love. Not by disparaging viewers who are new to arguments and evidence for Christianity and are already at an elevated state of tension...due to the fact that this an emotionally charged subject.

[grandconjunct]

My number one goal is simply to remove Logical barriers from people So they can begin taking the bible and God seriously, I am not an Evangelist, I have little to no skill in that area and others do have those skills on youtube, To me the most loving thing I can do is correct peoples errors and tell them the straight truth. I realize I Have much to learn and better ways to communicate but I think you actually maybe a little to harsh in your criticism of me? buts that's ok you are not perfect.

[geoffreyefloyd]

I agree

[geoffreyefloyd]

I commend what you do with your channel, keep posting great videos. I just have trouble seeing how your comments are helping people find their way to Christ. Obviously I'm no saint I've been rude on YT before. It's just my opinion, I'm shocked frankly that my comment elicited such a harsh response. I would not have posted it had I known. I'm only trying to put my 2 cents in to help people understand Christianity better.

[geoffreyefloyd]

P.S. When I said "help people understand Christianity better" I wasn't referring to you, grandconjunct.

[grandconjunct]

Directly bringing others to Christ is not my number one Goal , that's a secondary Goal, You sound like a nice person with great people skills who may be called to evangelism if you would like feel free to comment all over my channel and bring others to Christ, Or start making evangelism videos and post them as video responses to mine, to lead people to the next step of accepting Christ, but just taking pot shots with no examples to show me the correct way to do this, doesn't seem helpful to me?

[geoffreyefloyd]

As for why I don't have any videos on my channel...I though about having a William Lane Craig channel or a Christian apologetics channel but there seem to be plenty of good ones around already (like yours) ;)

Regards,

Geoffrey

[grandconjunct]

When I came to Y.T. in 2006 There were almost no apologists, I think it was to hostile for 99% of Christians , So I waited for people with More knowledge & with better people skills than myself but few if any showed up, & the few that did come seem to miss some points I felt crucial, so i felt obliged to post videos , the people person apologists always show up late in my opinion & always criticize those who came before them unduly. I invite you to jump in and give me a better example!

[geoffreyefloyd]

P.S. you would laugh if you saw some of my posts...I've had some exchanges with people here on You Tube that didn't turn out so well, but I consider that a character flaw in myself and something I need to work on. non-christian You Tubers can be very hostile and very insulting sometimes, and it can be very tempting to return the favor sometimes. Most of the time I try to be nice though.

[grandconjunct]

Your assuming the sun & moon were created ex nihilo on day 4, 1:16 says "made" sun and 2 great lights". the Hebrew for "made" Asah is in verb form so sun & heavens were reveled on surface on day 4 but could have been first created any day prior. the frame of reference is " the surface of the earth/waters" Gen 1:2), the only place in universe that the Moon & sun both appear as "great lights", besides God clearly said he made earth and Heavens ( Stars, moon) on day 1, not day 4 see Gen 1:1

[cloudsheep777]

I had this similar argument with someone a couple of day's ago...But your description is much more detailed...Mine was "Whats the difference what the cause of the moons light source is they both emit light" lol...

[Celticking36]

The moon is not a light, so God was wrong.

[Reddogg387]

really? did you create the earth?

[Tempovideos]

Science is taking something and conducting a humanistic study on it to the best of our knowledge.... unfortunately you can't pluck God out of the sky, stuff him in a test tube and do experiments on him. Tho science does give evidence for biblical story's ie archeologists discovering chariot wheels & spears at the bottom of the red sea etc & the world being prophesied as round in Isaiah 40:22 (whom lived 700bc) when this fact wasn't discovered by man till 1500ad

[grandconjunct]

yes science can also distinguish between designed an undesigned objects too then plug this design into a philosophical premise and get us to God, since design requires a designer.

Good point on the round earth, atheists can never make up there minds whether the bible teaches a flat round disk or square flat earth (i.e. the 4 corners of the earth)but then they are still searching for The Maker of God, so we just need to stand back and let these geniuses do their thing.

[TheOriginProject]

do you have any idea where I could get my hands on the research results he mentioned?

[braino2000]

As always you have great videos! Thanks for posting!

[ByzantineChristian]

Nice Orthodox Church!!! Wopa!

[grandconjunct]

Right on Byzantine its the Orthodox church

at Santorini Greece