My Jhong Law Horn Northern Shaolin Form

[zetaro128]

That is awesome man!

How long did it take for you to learn that?

[LL8054]

awesome, thanks for posting.  i used to study under master lee in dallas. i've been looking for a "say fong say pay" video for a long time but haven't been able to find one.

[Bowser666]

This is a modified version of Gong Li Chuan. I study Northern Longfist and we have a similar form, just the hand strikes are more Longfist style :)

[redsamuraidragon]

I can assure you this is a long fist family form. your correct it is a modified gong li chuan. its the My Jhong Law Horn variation of it. I at a green belt, did not have the proper technique at the time to execute it properly due to limited experience.

[s13ge]

I think you done fine. I just started, but I could easily pick out long fist techniques when you were doing them. In fact, we train under the same style. Lost track.

[redsamuraidragon]

Thank you. Nice to meet you s13ge.

[hgearangler]

dirtbagmofo,

do you have the chinese characters for your sifu raymond wongs???

for instance 黃 X X

[hgearangler]

redsamuraidragon,

Nice to meet you!

is that you personally played this set in the clip????

Very precise movement, precise angles,

perfect stance,................good job !!

where can I read the lineage tree of sifu Adam Reed?????

[redsamuraidragon]

Sifu Adam Reed is a direct student of Grand Master Johnny Lee

[redsamuraidragon]

yes, this was me 3-4 years ago.

[redsamuraidragon]

and thank you for your kind words sir.

[redsamuraidragon]

Nice. Thats pretty cool. They are diff branch of the My Jhong family but still under Grand Master Lee.

[Tokny94134]

not bad. I was kinda taught a few of the techniques a little differenlty though ^ ^', such as the one foot stance-back fist-punch-double punch part, I do a chop instead of what it looks like a gut punch from what you do. My instructor's Sifu Adam Reed ^ ^ he currently teaches us at the auraria campus in denver, co. I'll post up a video some time of my few forms ^ ^' I've studied this for about 9 months so don't expect something too immaculate ^ ^'

[redsamuraidragon]

ive trained with adam quite a bit...

its one foot stance, step out, back fist, step thru chop, double punch,

I aim for solar plexus, you should aim for the nose as a beginner...

[redsamuraidragon]

I train with Grand Master Lee once again. I used to train with Adam under Grand Master Lee, and ive trained with people in Florida that are My Jhong Law Horn. Ive seen alot of diff variations to it even within our own family/sub families. I just follow Grand Master Lee and what he says to do. Have you check out any of my other videos? I recently returned to training under GrandMaster Lee after 2 years of not training.

[slidertheslick]

wow thats a much different kung lek kuen than my ying jow kung lek kuen

[redsamuraidragon]

may I please see your version? i love to see diff versions

[snkaes251]

The style itself is Mizong. But you are correct; he's doing kuen le kuen. Anybody know of Master Lee? Cuz this dude probably learned it from him, or somebody he knows.

[redsamuraidragon]

yeah, I learned it from Grand Master Lee. I just recently after two years of being away from the school have started attending again.

[tosken77]

i am sorry but i think this form is called kung lek kuen and not law horn..

[silentfist862]

If I recall correctly, Kung Lek Kuen/Gong Li Quan was created by Huo Yuanjia who was trained in Mizong Quan/Law Horn Kuen/Lost Track Boxing so it would make sense.

[120blades]

i dont train with master lee and im sorry i had no idea but i promise u ppl ill have some videos up soon its cuz i had very slow internet but now i have verizon again sorry i was a little punk bak then when i commented but now im more calm(i had anger management bak then) but ill show u guys a video in a while when i get some vidoes ill comment on here with videos or just look under mi zong lo han

[120blades]

im also still learning

[Shugyo2]

I respect all martial artists

you have something i have yet to acquire...since i am a karateka just switched over to kung fu

i lack the fluidity kung fu practitioners have, but in this form..you seem lifeless...

[felitina1]

gut ok meine video sind auf youtube

[Ginko26]

Nice, keep practicing, you're on your way! Remember power comes from ankle, leg, knee, waist, back, shoulder, forearm, elbow then fist!

[myjhonglawhorneric]

This is actually a chin woo form call gungli gun( kung le kung) or how ever you want to pernounce or spell it. we do it with a lil myjhong editing to it. good basic form. everyone should learn it i think. teaches alot. thats why our style teaches it as a yellow belt form. good beginner form. hope all is well and keep training!

[classicalWC]

It's a good Northern Shaolin form...how many sets do you have to practise and is the fist sets only closed fisted and do you have any dim mak techniques,like the sword fingers?

[jingwuman]

Nice work!Yeah, this is Gongliquan. It's not a Mizong form, it's a Jingwu form, but I know it's taught first. We do it at my school too, and my teacher got it from Alex Kwok.

[120blades]

it's a mi zong lohan form!!! and it's name is kunya kun

[ricardomoonreading]

jingwuman is correct it is a NOT a mi zong form...your school may teach along with the curriculum and have a mizong flavour to it...I know b/c my instructor also taught me this form and he the same form many times from many different style masters including Mi Zong...Gung Lik Kuen/GongLiquan all the same...Kunya Kun sounds close to the cantonese pronounciation.

[tanglang67]

not very polite comments so far....I have to say, that I like the clearity and precision of the form...me I practice more aggressiv, and is that therefor better??not shure...probably not...

like it

[jsoiv]

all of you martial arts guys take yourselves too seriously. This kid is doing a good job. He's practicing and learning. Do you expect him to be hou yuan jia in a week? Get a life, worry about your own skill and get a life. Fucking youtube warriors....

[DrewPanda]

ummmm, are u serously from my jong law horn!? dude, u need to work on your form, im sorry but that wasnt very good, and obviously outsiders didnt think much of it either

[LevCano1993]

Nice, I'm a Purple-Stipe Blue Belt in the My Jhong Law Horn Style at our school in Louisiana and this was one of my favorite forms...when I was still 10. XD

[lobermanboaz]

the way you perform it is very similar to how it is done

in my school, in Israel and it is because my teacher studied from your master, Johnny Lee

[redsamuraidragon]

Thats pretty neat. Glad to see family all over the world.

[ten0dera]

I practice Seven Star Mantis - it's one of our first basic forms (well, a variation of it at least). Kune Nek Kuen (Power Boxing). never seen it done that way...neat to see if from a diff. style

[aznshaq45]

y do u look unnatural when you do it?

[chihlitiger]

This is Gong Li (Effort Strength) Quan, originated not from within Mi Zhong Quan lineage but from south eastern Hebei. It was later adopted by Jing Wu School and other schools. Founder of Jing Wu School, Huo Yuan Jia, was a Mi Zhong master. Mi Zhong is predominant in the old Tianjin Fu (prefecture).

[redsamuraidragon]

you are correct

[tomrovak]

Your Master Lee is very well known. Even up here in Chicago. My Sigung Steven Hill had mentioned his name. You come from an excellent school. There is a version of this form in Northern Praying Mantis as well. Absolutely Shaolin!!!

[redsamuraidragon]

thank you

[maXui]

This is a variant of Gung Li Chuan looks a little stiff IMHO

[redsamuraidragon]

yep

[will7215]

i also study my jhong law horn, and i know that form, yay! I study at a devision of master lee's school in arkansas... sifu greg used to be the sifu at our school.

[wuxingwarrior]

Who do you study My Jhong Law Horn with? Is it Leng?

[redsamuraidragon]

Grand Master Johnny Lee

[wuxingwarrior]

That's great... right from the source! I have been to many of GM Lee's seminars when he was at my teachers tournaments etc. My teacher learned My Jhong and Pakua from him. GM Lee is a great teacher!

[redsamuraidragon]

Who is your Sifu?

[wuxingwarrior]

Andrew Chung. I was with him for a number of years. However, I only learned a little My Jhong and very little Pakua. I studied Yang Tai Chi, Hsing I and Wing Chun, some Hakka fist here and there. I havent been with Sifu Andy for a while now though, but a great teacher.

[redsamuraidragon]

I noticed that Mantis had a version of this form. I randomly ran into a guy at a halloween kegger giving a demo of it. Dont Most Northern Styles have a variant of this?

[coalkornx]

It isn't until you get to a higher rank that you actually learn your styles specific forms.Just as you dont get a white sash when you join kung fu, you have to earn it ,same with the styles actual forms. Nice to meet you Redsamuraidragon!I've studied with Sifu Mike Rowe in New Orleans(and Sifu Carlos Aguilar)up until Hurricane Katrina.

[coalkornx]

It isn't until you get to a higher rank that you actually learn your styles specific forms.Just as you dont get a white sash when you join kung fu, you have to earn it ,same with the styles actual forms. Nice to meet you Redsamuraidragon!I've studied with Sifu Mike Rowe in New Orleans(and Sifu Carlos Aguilar)up until Hurricane Katrina.

[redsamuraidragon]

Nice to meet you to.

[PartyMonster51]

just to let you know chung kuen means long fist; not kune lay kune.

[redsamuraidragon]

what makes you think I thought that? Cause I dont.. thx.. peace

[tomrovak]

Also chang chuan is one of the most widley used. Means the same but I believe is the romanized spelling translation.

[edge88]

this isnt northern shaolin...

[redsamuraidragon]

Yes it is. Kune Lay Kuen is the name of this form.

Its part of My Jhong Law Horn.

[litui]

Gong li chuan in Mandarin, Gung lik kuen in Cantonese. Good to meet you. I practice MJLH under Vincent Murakami (under Sifu Alex Kwok) in Calgary, Canada.

[arhat79]

I agree, definitely not northern longfist. I've been practicing for nearly 15 years and have never seen or heard about this form. Looks like a weird imitation of gung li chuan (no offense). What other longfist forms do you know?

[edge88]

yeah...

i didnt reply because i didnt wanted to start a long discussion about the style

i've been praticing it for 3 years and i know that the curriculum of GM. Chan Kowk Wai consists on lie bu chan plus the 10 shaolin traditional forms...

and, this form of the video is not on the curriculum...

[redsamuraidragon]

www.leeswhiteleopardkungfu.com­..

comment buttons arnt working right tonight..

[redsamuraidragon]

Wu Song - Break/Release The Shackles Form

??? - Plum Flower Coiling Dragon Double Sabre

Two Element Lighting Fan - From Bagua

1st form - Say Fone Say Bay <- This is all I know the first form by

2nd form - Kune Lay Kuen - "The power building form?" Gung Li Variant

3rd form - Dia Ching Kuen "The Big Fight?"

4th form - Chau Kup Darn Doe - "Tiger Tail Saber"

5th form - Chun Kuen "Long Fist"

6th form - Kuan Yan Guan - "Staff"

[arhat79]

I think I see part of the issue. I went to the website and I think your teacher is from HK, hence the cantonese names for the forms. Maybe the evolution of your system from northern to southern china led to the departure of the traditional bei (northern) gung li chuan (power fist) form. Just speculation I suppose. Seems like a good school. I've seen John Su perform the chain whip, at the bluegrass tournament in louisvilee, not bad.

[redsamuraidragon]

ah... yes, cantonese names... You are correct about this part. I wish I knew the mandarin names for our forms and just EXACTLY what they mean.

[litui]

Gong li quan in Mandarin, Gung lik kuen in Cantonese. I study MJLH in Calgary, Canada under Vincent Murakami. Good to meet you. Gung lik kuen was originally one of the forms taught in the Jing Mo/Chin Wu Athletic Association where our style originates. As I understand it is performed in a way that's unique to our style.

[redsamuraidragon]

I was told that this form isnt to be thought of as Gung Li. It has different applications ect is what Grandmaster says. It has a different purpose.

I suppose Kune lay Kune is Gung Li in cantonese?

[m3kkR]

It isn't that bad. He just needs to go faster.

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