Scott walker is a god...I follow him without a thought in my brain...because he is a republican and they are superior to any other. If I follow republicans I to will be wealthy some day and people will respect me. Unlike those liberal left wing nut jobs that have no money or live off mommy and daddy. Money is so important to me. And republicans will make me rich rich rich. They can have my rights as long as I get my cut.
they're either unemployed homeless baby-boomers, or college bottom-feeders who are being supported by mommy and daddy. not a care in the world, which is why they smell-they don't even bathe.
@TheZeke165 Yeah, and if the founding fathers had a care in the world, such as a job, they wouldn't have had the time to start a silly war in protest to British tyranny. Silly people wanting to better your country! How dare they!
Wow! I guess all professional athletes are socialist too then being that they too are union members. Maybe next year when the NFL goes on strike all you tough guys can go play as scabs. I'm sure the salaries are far superior to the shit pay teachers get for raising your kids.
@iknewitalready Sorry but our current power is not because slaves built rail roads. Though it doesn't surprise me that you, a dimwitted left wing socialist, entitlist douche bag, would use racism as a base for your argument. It's what you do when you lose an argument.
Idiot.
The bottom-est of the bottom line is Capitilism and Democracy is what made this nation the most powerful in the world. That's it, nothing else to discuss.
@MinmatarThrasher Or, perhaps, it was because they came out of a world war unscathed while most of the world was devastated, thus putting them far ahead in the first place? It was a mix of luck and hardwork. Both of which have been on a decline in recent years, replaced with ignorance and apathy.
Isn't it the right wingers that are usually the racists? Y'know. Those rednecks down there in dat dere bible belt. The ones whose ancestors fought for slavery and all that lovely stuff?
@ThazuaBlackarrow " Isn't it the right wingers that are usually the racists? Y'know. "
Racism is not exclusive to the republican party. You want to know who's the MOST racist in this country.
Mexican immigrants. Those are the most racist people you will EVER meet believe it or not. They know no bounds when it comes to racial discrimination.
The KKK was established by a Democrat. There is currently a democrat in congress who's an ex KKK member.
The Chains Are On. Still think the NWO is a conspiracy theory? Look at what is going on around the globe and tell me it wasn't carefully planned. Manipulation of the masses through oil prices and media control. How could anyone not see this as evil? Even the police understand that this is the last ditch effort for a reasonable quality of life and fair wages. Unfortunately they will lose because the script has already been written and the nation has already been robbed. They should feel lucky, HA
Like much of the national media, this piece is unintentionally (I assume) biased because of a lack of ability or willingness to call out Gov. Walker on claims that don't stand up to fact. While Walker CLAIMS to be pushing this bill to solve a budget deficit, the bill's most egregious elements, like stripping most collective bargaining rights from public employees (even those that not paid by the state!) is clearly unrelated to the current budget.
Unions help themselves they've become a Quasi government and now the teachers have to deal with BS unions and then the government. If unions protected the people these people wouldn't be fighting for their lives. When you give rights or money to a middleman your are already being mis-managed. The first step in taking away a peoples rights is to mix benefits and rights in a pot so the people cant distinguish the difference. The unions got their dues and screwed everyone they were to "protect"!!
@radiofreak56 No, for the recall of 3 D senators currently. maybe you are unaware. Yes, it is the same as firing, as they are not waiting for the next election to send a message. Also, the fleeing fourteen will no longer receive direct deposit, so they will need to come in to pick up there checks. Although, we all know that they union will raise money for them in the mean time.
@ladylordess umm to my knowlege only one d senator might be recalled, one r senator might be recalled, and scott walker is def gonna be recalled. and no firing is different than a recall. elected officials can't be "fired" sorry. they have to do something illegal to be taken out of office which scott walker might have done with the koch bros.
@radiofreak56 Exactly! That is the extent of your knowledge!!! There is a recall for 3 D's underway. You will never get Walker recalled, no matter how much Trumpka tells you it is so. ROTFLMAO. What will you ever do without a union telling you what to do or think????
Why would the protesters on this issue want the building to be cleaned, they are filthy creatures by nature and want to roll around in the filth they create...
They are coming, but first some union busting needs to be done so that we can all earn low wages, then the factories will start sprouting across the land, we will all be given these fabulous jobs where we manufacture cheap goods and sell them to India and China.
Sorry, I was just channeling a republican wet dream.
One sold out paid-in-full sold out politician does not have the right to claim the right to destroy 50+ years of precedent of collective union bargaining which facilitated the the Middle Class. By any means necessary, Wisconsin. this is 100% Class War.
SOLUTIONSS I WANT SOLUTIONS dont give more opinios give solutions,i give 1.,do like the egiptians get ready of those suckers, stablish a new goverment that will serve the people, a gov that will give u freedom,liberty n happiness as the constitutions said,fire all the judges,send them to the fields to work for a minimum wage together w the governor an all his gangsters,rise the minimum wage to a decent pay like $25h help the industry to bring the jobs back to u country,this is so easy to do
Remember what Americans wouldn't have if there were never any unions in the United States: a 40 hour work week, paid overtime, lunch breaks, breaks, safety standards, insurance, paid vacation, and so on. Unions are the lesser of two evils. Capitalism fosters greed and singular workers are easily dealt with if they have a problem with conditions at work and voice their opinion which creates an atmosphere of fear. There is safety in numbers.
How about the Wall Street law breakers and assorted banks/mortgage companies who actually caused the economic collapse? Why aren't you wingnuts upset with them at all? Why? Because the Murdoch empire and Koch Industries have convinced a bunch of easily duped, not very bright Americans that state/public employees are to blame for budget woes. This obsession with unions and teachers is a deflection from the real criminal class in America.
@DillonDee1 Yes, but its on a voluntary basis, and the consumer is compensated with more wealth, so its hardly expropriation. Wealth is abstract and includes standard of living through higher production that reduces cost of goods and services. We are wealthy in America not because we have more money, but becuase we are more productive. You can thank the entrepreneurs and business owners for that. Government had little to do with that, but to slow down progress and enforce monopolies.
Let me get this straight...Walker is using the SAME police, whose Unions he wants to strip of their contractual bargaining rights away from? ?? As long as Protesters keep peaceful, we should see a complete capitulation of Wisconsin dictatorship, as we saw the Egyptian Army supporting THEIR pro-democracy demonstrators!
@davcomcj Peaceful anarchy. It is breaking down already. In Seattle. In California. In Ohio. In Florida. In New Hampshire. Already there are frustrated union goons charging into T Party crowds, pushing and shoving and punching.
This is a what happens when we create a Prostitutional Democracy. Thats where America is between "Lobbying" and "campaign contributions".It isn't profitable for governors or representatives to represent the citizen. The school budget crisis is a myth. It takes a certain amount of money to sit down children and put Math, Science and History into their heads. So those are solid definable measures. Where the politicians put the "other" money is budget problem!
@rungsat1 u right mr, ifthepeopleofwisconsinwanttofix thebudget, i tellthemhow,
1.-pay the governor,council,secretaries,judges,etc a minimum wage. 2.get ready of the police an arm the people they will be in charge of their own security,cancel medicaid n provide medical insurance for all CHARGE $25 for week.3. finish the welfare but give rise to all the workers at $25h,with this u end (welfare,homless n education)4.give theindustry all the help they need to create jobs.5 smile n be happy ("~")
@aseredy n u please read my lips,thebuckstopshere,economics r theories maneged created n invented by people that never work a day on the field,factories,fishieries,or services an by the goverments w the help of the corporations w invented laws created by corrupted judges who twisted the constitution,cuz if we created a national picture n use the math,forgeth ec theories 4ej u have 350mp n u tax them 25cents 4 their underwear u w have 87millions+,now add the other taxes n this rats cant budget?
@nosupecualponerme I think I agree with you, but I'm not really sure. I had a hard time reading that. Some forms of economics rely less on math and more on the study of human action. The economic models, built on praxeology, are very useful for the layman, because it doesn't take a doctorate to understand. Most of those models are also built on natural laws and rational axioms, which make them difficult to discredit, and why they are gaining in popularity. I suggest reading Henry Hazlitt's book.
@aseredy i sugest that u go n live on $7.50h then u see why economics was turned to a theory,cuz if we decifry the word of economic ?is u expend the less for the most,if u apply that to the industry of course they will pay u less,the gov w tax u more 4 less services,this is economy for them no for the vox popully the workers or obligated tax payers cant use the economy at all,cuz a worker never give less like all this rats u get it now?sorry if u cant understand,i tough all r intelligent here.
Scott acts like an economic hit-man more than a governor for the people. Obviously you can't do anything about that because Republican controlled all State rules and they are going to spread the pain among you with a tsunami style of mass layoffs.
Get the bums out of the building so it can be cleaned. Literally, cleaned!!! Can you imagine how much it must smell in there with all of that liberal shit?
@TheYoungTurdz You have been brain washed by the neoconservatives and the communal reinforcement from the place you reside...apparently surrounding yourself with right wingers has a detrimental effect on cognitive reasoning..
A unionized public employee, a member of the Tea Party and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table there is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says,"look out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."
@PatriotRadioMilitia You were also born on April 1st, 1969? What a coincidence! That is definitely the real date that I was born and not at all made up.
The unions are no longer bargaining for higher pay; they are simply bargaining to stay in power. Over time, support for unionization even among union members will weaken when workers begin asking: Why am I paying dues to an organization that doesn't protect me? Why is my union agreeing to cut my wages & benefits in order to preserve its ability to take dues from my paycheck?
@Searching4Truth1 Aren't you going to throw out some ridiculous made-up numbers to support your retarded nonsense this time? Last time I believe it was that the average teacher pay in Wisconsin was $168,000 a year.
Please tell us more of your "facts," I need a good laugh!
Let's be clear, All government bureaucracies are inefficient, wasteful, and very often corrupt. Union lobbyists and BIG money have purchased votes from mostly Democratic incumbent congressmen and women, and increased the average pay and benefits for Government workers, to, up-to three times that of public sector workers. Their exorbitant pensions are bankrupting most states...
But yet, Government Union Protesters make a scene in Wisconsin? Give us a break, it's time to get a real job.
Remember what Americans wouldn't have if there were never any unions in the United States: a 40 hour work week, paid overtime, lunch breaks, breaks, safety standards, insurance, paid vacation, and so on. Unions are the lesser of two evils. Capitalism fosters greed and singular workers are easily dealt with if they have a problem with conditions at work and voice their opinion which creates an atmosphere of fear. There is safety in numbers.
@ratsnacage1 I am a union member and the protestors are wrong. I make TONS of money for not doing a whole lot and I watch ppl retire with ridiculous benefits. Don't smash the unions, but the unions power has gotten way to big and out of hand and they need to brought down some. There has to be some balance. Look at GM, the unions are paying salaries and bennies for ppl that haven't worked in yrs. You pay more for a car because of it. Unions aren't bad, but don't let them call the shots.
@ConservateEliberat0r and the brilliance continues to shine...dont you have any real arguments...of course you dont...go ahead...call me some names cause thats all you got...go ahead...shoot...i could give two fucks you waste of sperm...
Thank you public union protestors for showing the rest of America,,,,,
Many, not all, but many of you are,,,,,
THUGS, AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR ANYONE ELSES POINT OF VIEW OTHER THAN YOUR OWN, HOMOPHOBES, BIGGOTS, RACISTS BY CALLING THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU, ALL THOSE THINGS.
@PatriotRadioMilitia blah blah blah... sounds like another uneducated tea bagger. Go back to school and fight for higher wages due to education rather than taking from those that spent years upon years to educate themselves and who are ENTITLED to earn what they put in. Stop with the president bashing, stop with the rhetoric and look at the full picture. Teachers should never be put in the poor house and neither should any other hard working man or woman. Reality is going to kick your ass
Now several Republicans have indicated they don't approve of Gov Walker's tyrantical tactics & will vote against the bill - but the demonstrators should remain until they are absolutely sure of this.
@DillonDee1 Tyrannical? So making the unions pay more into their healthcare and pension plans, while still being 50% lower than what their private sector/non-union counter parts pay, is tyrannical? Telling them they can't collectively bargain for benefits, benefits that basically DOUBLE their income to a level well above their private sector/non-union counter parts? When you don't have to pay for something yet you still receive it, it's as good as getting CASH for it.
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 you're the only idiot I see here... how about giving some concrete facts instead of your asinine opinions... no one cares what you think...
@jabberwolf wth are you even talking about. they'd get real jobs? Like police, teachers, factory workers etc? Those ARE the real jobs of america. Do some reading in your history books at school about how abused workers were in this country before unions, about sweatshops, cheap labor, and dangers in the workplace. I can only assume you're a child (especially since you use the word "retarded" in your post).
@ocerg1111 He didn't clarify. He meant public unions and government employees in general. There are teachers who are no government employees nor are they unionized. From what I hear, they get paid pretty well. Like in any job, they have individual bargaining rights. When they go into an interview, they negotiate their salary and benefits. To collectively bargain wages and benefits is ridiculous. That is something that is determined by the individuals worth not an overall blanket number.
@AmericanLibertarian1 "Negotiate" lol ... you think teachers can go in and just demand more money, and actually get anything? You sir are completely out of touch with reality and typical of the stooges supporting the corporate pigs taking over the country.
@RamenReturns When you interview for the job, that is the moment to negotiate salaries, benefits, etc. Even raises, whether they be performance based or on a time schedule. Once you are employeed, you are locked into that contract/agreement with that business. Should the business be able to have "collective bargaining" to reduce your pay and benefits after the employment agreement? Why should you be able to walk in there and demand a raise, even if you want to call it collective bargaining?
@AmericanLibertarian1 Did you see the news yesterday where the CEO of 3M corp warned Obama to back off, quit over regulating and over taxing busnesses. He said he will just pick up his marbles and go to Canada or Mexico to do business there and take his little red wagon (employees) with him.
@TAMARLANE I don't doubt it. I didn't see that in the news but eventually, most business will move overseas. I wouldn't be surprised if 3M moved overseas soon.
@RamenReturns If you don't like how much you make at your current job, and your performance warrants a raise but you do not receive it, you have two choices. Suck it up, work harder and try again down the road or GET A NEW JOB where you can negotiate for a higher pay or better benefits.
If you want to be able to adjust wages on the fly, then a business owner should do the same. Actually he does. It's called getting fired and that's what all these teachers who aren't working should be.
@AmericanLibertarian1 So sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you don't get to tell me what choices I have. :( Perhaps you should reassess your view of your own importance in the universe, it seems you believe it to be much greater than it actually is.
@RamenReturns I can tell you what choices you have, the basic choices. You, as an individual, may have additional choices. Maybe you're sleeping on top of a big pile of cash. Maybe you'll win the lottery tomorrow. Many things will chance certain choices you have, but that does not chance the basic choices you have as an employee. You either take it like a man or find a new job. You are not entitled to work for any business. You don't own that business. You are their by mutual benefit agreement.
@AmericanLibertarian1 Guess what fucktard? I don't care what you think my choices are because you're as important to me as a speck of dirt! Go fuck yourself and play daddy somewhere else.
a Tea Partier and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "Watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."
@AmericanLibertarian1 Not the fucking cunt CEO - he stoled them from American VETS and taxpayers and union guy who is a VET and a Taxpayer. and an American
The CEO is from another country and inherited wealth and his daddy bought him the job
@justonefirefly1 Way to generalize all CEOs. You do realize a CEO can be as small as the mom and pop shop? Just because you believe all corporate structures to be evil, and I'm not saying that there isn't inherently greedy CEOs and business owners out there, but corporations don't have to be billion dollar entities. He didn't steal anything. The employee works there at his own choice. He can work somewhere else or start his own business. What we need to do is not get angry at eachother and THINK
Guess what Governor isn't showing up in Washington for the Governor meeting with the president...you got it..Walker. He must be just a little ashamed of what he is doing that he would turn down the opportunity to put forward this budget fix to all the Governors.
@masercot Or how about you work harder to achieve your own goals in life. Koch or no koch. Soros or no soros. Each side has this demonized puppet master. Think what you want. I'll take freedom any day. Unions are the antithesis of freedom. The only ones that benefit from unions are the unions themselves.
@AmericanLibertarian1 I've been working for thirty years, son. I do okay for myself. Unlike neocons, however, I think beyond my own pocketbook. Without the unions, we'd be relying on corporations to do the right thing. I strongly recommend that you do not hold your breath if that happens...
@MinmatarThrasher Been providing for myself longer than most of you girls have been alive. And, I am considered management. Unlike neocons, however, I look at what is best for the nation and not myself...
@masercot " Unlike neocons, however, I look at what is best for the nation and not myself... "
The very opposite of that is happening though. By cutting all the perks unionist get from tax dollars saves the state (and albeit the nation) valuable tax dollars in a time when state governments are struggling to pay the bills. You guys can whine and cry all you like, but sacrifices have to be made in order to stay afloat. And taxing wealthy people is not the answer. You don't punish succesful ppl.
@MinmatarThrasher Taxes are punishment? Amazing how you neocons love to play with language. It works well on the stupid.
The so-called perks that the unions had in Wisconsin were from years of salary concessions. I.e. They forewent raises and took less tangible reimbursement. Now it is being used by neocons as an excuse to attack them.
I understand you neocons are like dogs and your masters are the rich. But, they truly don't pay their fair share and tend to sell out the country quickly.
Over taxing people who acquired wealth through personal success is punishment.
You don't punish people for being successful in life.
This is a concept you entitleist, left wing socialist will never understand. As you're too caught up in the " ME ME ME. I deserve to have the money that other people made through their own success because I failed at life and can't see my own success! "
I'm glad my tax dollars aren't funding your benefits when I have none myself.
@MinmatarThrasher You can be assured that the wealthy pay less in taxes than you or I. How nice that they've persuaded you that anyone who has issues with that is a socialist. Too bad they didn't tell you that EVERY WESTERN NATION IS SOCIALIST. There are no purely capitalist nations. Why is that? Simple...
Now march to white house pull down the minora and obalisk and all zionist rule symbols from your country wake up america and roar send a message to the zionist scum that rule your country, before its too late.
Wow! The police are showing such patient restraint with these protestors. Why is that? Could it be because the police see the protestors as fellow public employee who are demonstrating for all their self interest. Blind Justice? I don't think so. Down with services provided by government funded/enforced monopolies, Up with services provided by a free market.
@bangul LOL Walker violates law by creating a new unconstitutional law so he can force the protesters out of the capitol which is owned by THE PEOPLE, and you want to make wise cracks about this being blind justice. The fact of the matter is, the law Walker created to kick the people out of the capitol is not legal and the police do not enforce FAKE laws. If Walker created a law saying anyone with the screen name bangul has to give him his home, would you vacate your home?
@Tesstyify What law proposed by Walker to remove protestors are you talking about? Maybe your talking about his budget proposal? If that’s the case then could you tell me what part of the Federal or Wisonsin Constitution it violates.
Also Check out the Winsonsin Professional Police Association’s (WPPA) website. Find it’s “Information on Governor Walker’ Budget Adjustment Bill”. In it the police organization states its opposition to the bill. You don’t think maybe this has something to
@bangul do with the 2 weeks of leniency the protestor’s had. If these protestors where instead protesting for school choice vouchers do you think they would get 2 weeks? I say again, justice here is not blind. These protestors have pull with the police.
As for your example, the law would be unjust because the rent I pay involves no coercion or fraud thus is a voluntary exchange. As for state funded/enforced monopolies, if a taxpayer
@bangul is not happy with services provided then opting out financially is likely to get him put in a cage, or killed if he resists. Which is why few services as possible should be funded by taxation. Coercive funding means the lowest quality for the highest price.
@bangul Walker drafted a new law about a week ago... do a search in your search engine. Constitutionally, the building belongs to the people and I certainly do not have enough room in YouTube comments to explain that, but you can search that out as well, or maybe even call a civil rights attorney who will have information on the rights people have to property paid for by their tax. Our founding fathers certainly did not give ownership of tax paid buildings to those that work for us. chk law
@Tesstyify I did some searching on google trying to find such a law before posting my last comment. Even the few articles I scanned on the protesters in the public building mentioned nothing about police ignoring a law. There could be such a law, but you'll have to suggest a search term if I'm to find it.
I wish youtube would drop that 500 character limit. Have a 2,000 character limit and If someone types more then 500 characters then just put a more link at the bottom of their comments
@bangul Actually, I am not sure that Walker can legally pass that law specifically with out the 14 Dems, but some law he can, and I did read a report that he did pass it. In the protest, someone quoted it here earlier, it was said The police joined the protesters, and said "We know the difference between right and wrong. We are not going to remove you instead we will be sleeping beside you" This is only one of the statements they made AFTER the law..they were ordered to leave the Capitol.
@Tesstyify AFTER the law.... meaning your search for the appropriate articles relating to the law created to get them out of the capitol will be as old as one or two days (maybe a weekend to) before the protesters were first told by the police that they were ordered to clear the building.
I should add, before that statement I quoted, I watched it on upstream, the police said, "they were ordered" to remove them from the building... then the rest of the quote I provided. Try searching for words like Walker wants protesters out of Capitol, legislators complain of noise, these were things I remember being in the article relating to Walkers law, and not sure if discussion on what laws he could and could not pass without the 14 was in that same article.
@Tesstyify You may not like Ed Schultz, but he does have some Wisconsin Constitution information you were interested in. It is just a few minutes into the video msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41841037#41841037
It doesn't give the actual chapter and paragraph, but the language could be used in your search to find that in the WI Constitution
As far as your comment re: the WPPA, the police and firefighters did back Walker at election time, however, if you would have been watching the coverage on upstream you would have seen the interviews wherein these union heads and union members APOLOGIZED for this and said they didn't understand Walker's agenda at the time, but now know, and most vowed not to vote Republican again due to what they are now seen to be about.
@jenniferashley99 IT SOOO FUNNY...... YOUR GONNA LOSE AND YOUR GONNA LOSE BIG TIME...IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AND YOUR ALL SCARED, SCARED TO DEATH... WE HISTORICALLY TOOK YOU OUT IN 2010 AND IN 2012 NOT ONLY WILL WE FINISH YOU OFF BUT WE ARE GOING TO CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.... SORRY YOUR GONNA HAVE ALOT OF STATE WORKER LAY OFFS I GUESS WE CAN THANK THE DEMS FOR SOMETHING.....THE PARTY OF WELFARE AND UNEMPLOYMENT. IT'S WORKING FOR THEM!!! STUPID PEOPLE. CRACKS ME UP
Right to assemble > Right to clean
FreedomForever2010 5 months ago
Scott walker is a god...I follow him without a thought in my brain...because he is a republican and they are superior to any other. If I follow republicans I to will be wealthy some day and people will respect me. Unlike those liberal left wing nut jobs that have no money or live off mommy and daddy. Money is so important to me. And republicans will make me rich rich rich. They can have my rights as long as I get my cut.
thre3Deep 11 months ago
they're either unemployed homeless baby-boomers, or college bottom-feeders who are being supported by mommy and daddy. not a care in the world, which is why they smell-they don't even bathe.
TheZeke165 1 year ago
@TheZeke165 If they didn't have a care in the world they wouldn't be protesting. They would, uhh, y'know. Be not caring and not protesting.
ThazuaBlackarrow 11 months ago
@ThazuaBlackarrow if they had a care in the world, such as a job, they wouldn't have the time or luxury to protest.
TheZeke165 11 months ago
@TheZeke165 Yeah, and if the founding fathers had a care in the world, such as a job, they wouldn't have had the time to start a silly war in protest to British tyranny. Silly people wanting to better your country! How dare they!
ThazuaBlackarrow 11 months ago
So the middle class should lower their standard of living? What about the wealthy then? 2 Americas separate and unequal like Egypt used to be. Hmmm
JZickler1 1 year ago
Wow! I guess all professional athletes are socialist too then being that they too are union members. Maybe next year when the NFL goes on strike all you tough guys can go play as scabs. I'm sure the salaries are far superior to the shit pay teachers get for raising your kids.
JZickler1 1 year ago
I can't believe they haven't gassed these Socialists out of there yet!
Minuteman9112012 1 year ago
Nice! I shot most of that video.
Scopeless 1 year ago
Looks like it's mostly Socialist college students now.
Maybe the union thugs will have to get them out of there once the layoffs start?
Minuteman9112012 1 year ago
@Minuteman9112012
war on terror and
war on students, now?
war is peace
ignorance is strength
fear is control
iknewitalready 1 year ago
@iknewitalready Your silly chants are empty...Socialism is death.
Minuteman9112012 1 year ago
@Minuteman9112012
Capitalism kills people
iknewitalready 1 year ago
@iknewitalready Capitialism is what made America the powerful nation that it is. Bottom line and end of story.
MinmatarThrasher 1 year ago
@MinmatarThrasher
slavery and free labor is what made America the powerful nation that it is.
cruel capitalism.....that is bottom-est of the bottom line.....the end.
iknewitalready 1 year ago
@iknewitalready Sorry but our current power is not because slaves built rail roads. Though it doesn't surprise me that you, a dimwitted left wing socialist, entitlist douche bag, would use racism as a base for your argument. It's what you do when you lose an argument.
Idiot.
The bottom-est of the bottom line is Capitilism and Democracy is what made this nation the most powerful in the world. That's it, nothing else to discuss.
MinmatarThrasher 1 year ago
@MinmatarThrasher Or, perhaps, it was because they came out of a world war unscathed while most of the world was devastated, thus putting them far ahead in the first place? It was a mix of luck and hardwork. Both of which have been on a decline in recent years, replaced with ignorance and apathy.
Isn't it the right wingers that are usually the racists? Y'know. Those rednecks down there in dat dere bible belt. The ones whose ancestors fought for slavery and all that lovely stuff?
ThazuaBlackarrow 11 months ago
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@ThazuaBlackarrow " Isn't it the right wingers that are usually the racists? Y'know. "
Racism is not exclusive to the republican party. You want to know who's the MOST racist in this country.
Mexican immigrants. Those are the most racist people you will EVER meet believe it or not. They know no bounds when it comes to racial discrimination.
The KKK was established by a Democrat. There is currently a democrat in congress who's an ex KKK member.
Try again.
MinmatarThrasher 11 months ago
SAVE AMERICA KILL ALL PUBLIC UNIONS
Hellpig 1 year ago
The Chains Are On. Still think the NWO is a conspiracy theory? Look at what is going on around the globe and tell me it wasn't carefully planned. Manipulation of the masses through oil prices and media control. How could anyone not see this as evil? Even the police understand that this is the last ditch effort for a reasonable quality of life and fair wages. Unfortunately they will lose because the script has already been written and the nation has already been robbed. They should feel lucky, HA
nucsol 1 year ago
@nucsol Fuck off with that stupid NWO shit.
It's not happening. It was never happening and it never will. You're mistaking simple corruption with some big conspiracy.
Stop making the US seem bigger and more important than it is.
ThazuaBlackarrow 11 months ago
Like much of the national media, this piece is unintentionally (I assume) biased because of a lack of ability or willingness to call out Gov. Walker on claims that don't stand up to fact. While Walker CLAIMS to be pushing this bill to solve a budget deficit, the bill's most egregious elements, like stripping most collective bargaining rights from public employees (even those that not paid by the state!) is clearly unrelated to the current budget.
bensongardner 1 year ago
the savage mutilation of the human race is set on course.....it's up to us to change the course PROTEST AND SURVIVE
sarkkinen23 1 year ago
Unions help themselves they've become a Quasi government and now the teachers have to deal with BS unions and then the government. If unions protected the people these people wouldn't be fighting for their lives. When you give rights or money to a middleman your are already being mis-managed. The first step in taking away a peoples rights is to mix benefits and rights in a pot so the people cant distinguish the difference. The unions got their dues and screwed everyone they were to "protect"!!
rungsat1 1 year ago
Middle class unions people against the middle class non union people.
Bought and paid for, the Fleeing Fourteen should be fired.
If you see this any other way you are a sheep and should go back to your pasture!
ladylordess 1 year ago
@ladylordess they're elected officials dumbass people have to vote them out of office
radiofreak56 1 year ago
@radiofreak56 You silly fool!!! Ever heard of a recall??? That is the same as firing them. The signatures are a mounting for the recall now.
ladylordess 1 year ago
@ladylordess for the recall of scott walker maybe, but no that's not the same as firing someone.
radiofreak56 1 year ago
@radiofreak56 No, for the recall of 3 D senators currently. maybe you are unaware. Yes, it is the same as firing, as they are not waiting for the next election to send a message. Also, the fleeing fourteen will no longer receive direct deposit, so they will need to come in to pick up there checks. Although, we all know that they union will raise money for them in the mean time.
ladylordess 1 year ago
@ladylordess umm to my knowlege only one d senator might be recalled, one r senator might be recalled, and scott walker is def gonna be recalled. and no firing is different than a recall. elected officials can't be "fired" sorry. they have to do something illegal to be taken out of office which scott walker might have done with the koch bros.
radiofreak56 1 year ago 2
@radiofreak56 Exactly! That is the extent of your knowledge!!! There is a recall for 3 D's underway. You will never get Walker recalled, no matter how much Trumpka tells you it is so. ROTFLMAO. What will you ever do without a union telling you what to do or think????
ladylordess 1 year ago
@ladylordess Take a pill.
radiofreak56 1 year ago 2
@radiofreak56 Typical Democrat/union mentality. A pill that is free will solve your problems. Be sure and take the Blue Obama Placebo.
ladylordess 1 year ago
BOUGHT and PAID POLITICIANS against MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA!
If you see this any other way you are a sheep and go back to your pasture!
PsychStudent85 1 year ago
Why would the protesters on this issue want the building to be cleaned, they are filthy creatures by nature and want to roll around in the filth they create...
dorightfearnothing 1 year ago
When did Athens become the capital of Wisconsin?
ThePoliticalMoose 1 year ago
WHERE ARE THE JOBS??
They are coming, but first some union busting needs to be done so that we can all earn low wages, then the factories will start sprouting across the land, we will all be given these fabulous jobs where we manufacture cheap goods and sell them to India and China.
Sorry, I was just channeling a republican wet dream.
rocky19421 1 year ago
One sold out paid-in-full sold out politician does not have the right to claim the right to destroy 50+ years of precedent of collective union bargaining which facilitated the the Middle Class. By any means necessary, Wisconsin. this is 100% Class War.
Asymmatrix 1 year ago
It is officially anarchy in Wisconsin now. Violence is on the rise in Seatle and Florida and Ohio and Minnesota and California. Thanks a lot Obama.
The legal definition of Anarchy is Absence of law.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE "Thanks a lot Obama".
Obama hasn't done anything except follow the same formula every other president before him has, right or left.
Help big corporations.
Let them continue freely.
Not help the people.
Increase debt.
It's all the same, politicians aren't on political sides, they're on their own side. They care about getting elected and nothing more.
ThazuaBlackarrow 11 months ago
@ThazuaBlackarrow too cold up there for me.
this may be true. it must change. I am working to change it.
TAMARLANE 11 months ago
SOLUTIONSS I WANT SOLUTIONS dont give more opinios give solutions,i give 1.,do like the egiptians get ready of those suckers, stablish a new goverment that will serve the people, a gov that will give u freedom,liberty n happiness as the constitutions said,fire all the judges,send them to the fields to work for a minimum wage together w the governor an all his gangsters,rise the minimum wage to a decent pay like $25h help the industry to bring the jobs back to u country,this is so easy to do
nosupecualponerme 1 year ago
Use tear gas. Set the dogs on them. Do something, you lazy slackers.
libsarecommies 1 year ago
Remember what Americans wouldn't have if there were never any unions in the United States: a 40 hour work week, paid overtime, lunch breaks, breaks, safety standards, insurance, paid vacation, and so on. Unions are the lesser of two evils. Capitalism fosters greed and singular workers are easily dealt with if they have a problem with conditions at work and voice their opinion which creates an atmosphere of fear. There is safety in numbers.
mordred612 1 year ago
How about the Wall Street law breakers and assorted banks/mortgage companies who actually caused the economic collapse? Why aren't you wingnuts upset with them at all? Why? Because the Murdoch empire and Koch Industries have convinced a bunch of easily duped, not very bright Americans that state/public employees are to blame for budget woes. This obsession with unions and teachers is a deflection from the real criminal class in America.
rocky19421 1 year ago
here are the facts:
1. People have a right to organize for protection.
2. Public unions usually operate in a gov. enforced monopoly.
3. Wealth Maximization is never justification to use force or violence.
4. True virtue in a relationship is achieved through mutual consent and cooperation on a voluntary basis.
5. It is always the tax payer who pays the benefits.
6. It is always the tax payer who has no say.
7. It is the tax payer who's property is expropriated/stolen if they refuse to pay taxes.
aseredy 1 year ago
@aseredy -- it's the typical taxpayer whose property is now being expropriated by the rich.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 Yes, but its on a voluntary basis, and the consumer is compensated with more wealth, so its hardly expropriation. Wealth is abstract and includes standard of living through higher production that reduces cost of goods and services. We are wealthy in America not because we have more money, but becuase we are more productive. You can thank the entrepreneurs and business owners for that. Government had little to do with that, but to slow down progress and enforce monopolies.
aseredy 1 year ago
@aseredy
American people are no longer innocent. They have seen what our
leaders do. They have seen many in positions of responsibility
and power in our government who are scofflaws, who do not pay
their taxes. There will be a great tax revolt when the government
overreaches. When the government oversteps its' mandate and begins
to RULE THE PEOPLE , rather than serve the people~~~when that happens
the great TAX REVOLT WILL BEGIN. Actually, it has already begun.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
Let me get this straight...Walker is using the SAME police, whose Unions he wants to strip of their contractual bargaining rights away from? ?? As long as Protesters keep peaceful, we should see a complete capitulation of Wisconsin dictatorship, as we saw the Egyptian Army supporting THEIR pro-democracy demonstrators!
davcomcj 1 year ago
@davcomcj Peaceful anarchy. It is breaking down already. In Seattle. In California. In Ohio. In Florida. In New Hampshire. Already there are frustrated union goons charging into T Party crowds, pushing and shoving and punching.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
This is a what happens when we create a Prostitutional Democracy. Thats where America is between "Lobbying" and "campaign contributions".It isn't profitable for governors or representatives to represent the citizen. The school budget crisis is a myth. It takes a certain amount of money to sit down children and put Math, Science and History into their heads. So those are solid definable measures. Where the politicians put the "other" money is budget problem!
rungsat1 1 year ago 2
@rungsat1 u right mr, ifthepeopleofwisconsinwanttofix thebudget, i tellthemhow,
1.-pay the governor,council,secretaries,judges,etc a minimum wage. 2.get ready of the police an arm the people they will be in charge of their own security,cancel medicaid n provide medical insurance for all CHARGE $25 for week.3. finish the welfare but give rise to all the workers at $25h,with this u end (welfare,homless n education)4.give theindustry all the help they need to create jobs.5 smile n be happy ("~")
nosupecualponerme 1 year ago
@nosupecualponerme please read; Economics in One Lesson, by Henry Hazlitt
aseredy 1 year ago
@aseredy n u please read my lips,thebuckstopshere,economics r theories maneged created n invented by people that never work a day on the field,factories,fishieries,or services an by the goverments w the help of the corporations w invented laws created by corrupted judges who twisted the constitution,cuz if we created a national picture n use the math,forgeth ec theories 4ej u have 350mp n u tax them 25cents 4 their underwear u w have 87millions+,now add the other taxes n this rats cant budget?
nosupecualponerme 1 year ago
@nosupecualponerme I think I agree with you, but I'm not really sure. I had a hard time reading that. Some forms of economics rely less on math and more on the study of human action. The economic models, built on praxeology, are very useful for the layman, because it doesn't take a doctorate to understand. Most of those models are also built on natural laws and rational axioms, which make them difficult to discredit, and why they are gaining in popularity. I suggest reading Henry Hazlitt's book.
aseredy 1 year ago
@aseredy i sugest that u go n live on $7.50h then u see why economics was turned to a theory,cuz if we decifry the word of economic ?is u expend the less for the most,if u apply that to the industry of course they will pay u less,the gov w tax u more 4 less services,this is economy for them no for the vox popully the workers or obligated tax payers cant use the economy at all,cuz a worker never give less like all this rats u get it now?sorry if u cant understand,i tough all r intelligent here.
nosupecualponerme 1 year ago
Scott acts like an economic hit-man more than a governor for the people. Obviously you can't do anything about that because Republican controlled all State rules and they are going to spread the pain among you with a tsunami style of mass layoffs.
beancube2010 1 year ago
@beancube2010 Sometimes a hit-man is exactly what is necessary to correct a problem. He was elected for just this purpose!!
If the Fleeing Fourtheen had bothered to do the job they were elected to do, the state wouldn't be facing pink slips.
ladylordess 1 year ago
@beancube2010 Sometimes a hit-man is exactly what is necessary to correct a problem. He was elected for just this purpose!!
If the Fleeing Fourteen had bothered to do the job they were elected to do, the state wouldn't be facing pink slips.
ladylordess 1 year ago
Get the bums out of the building so it can be cleaned. Literally, cleaned!!! Can you imagine how much it must smell in there with all of that liberal shit?
TheYoungTurdz 1 year ago
@TheYoungTurdz You have been brain washed by the neoconservatives and the communal reinforcement from the place you reside...apparently surrounding yourself with right wingers has a detrimental effect on cognitive reasoning..
Save yourself GET OUT NOW!
rocky19421 1 year ago
@rocky19421 If I were a union member, I would tend to agree with your silly statement.
However, you won't need to get out now, we will see to it that you get out!!
TheYoungTurdz 1 year ago
A unionized public employee, a member of the Tea Party and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table there is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says,"look out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."
rocky19421 1 year ago
unions are a tool of the communist
PatriotRadioMilitia 1 year ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia And you are just a plain old tool.
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns no fucktard im the same age as you and your a slave so your the tool ,
PatriotRadioMilitia 1 year ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia You were also born on April 1st, 1969? What a coincidence! That is definitely the real date that I was born and not at all made up.
Also, L2contractions.
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns i said same age did i say same fucking day ? no but your a fucking moron who cant read .
PatriotRadioMilitia 1 year ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia Contractions. Visualize using them.
Or are you speaking ebonics?
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia ramen is just a pussy little faggot Canadian troll.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
The unions and Obama, et al, keep blaming the conservatives & the T-Party folks but the liberals are also to blame
Google or otherwise-
Blue State Dems Turn on State, Local Workers
h t t p : // blogs . the-american-interest . com/wrm/2011/02/27/blue-state-dems-turn-on-state-local-workers/
Including, surprisingly, Rahm Emmanuel
cont'd
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
Cont'd
The unions are no longer bargaining for higher pay; they are simply bargaining to stay in power. Over time, support for unionization even among union members will weaken when workers begin asking: Why am I paying dues to an organization that doesn't protect me? Why is my union agreeing to cut my wages & benefits in order to preserve its ability to take dues from my paycheck?
Yup, why?
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
@Searching4Truth1 Aren't you going to throw out some ridiculous made-up numbers to support your retarded nonsense this time? Last time I believe it was that the average teacher pay in Wisconsin was $168,000 a year.
Please tell us more of your "facts," I need a good laugh!
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns
Whoa, feller
If you're gonna give out info, try to get it right
OOPS, my bad
Guess you aren't able to read nor comprehend except things the way you see it, huh?
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
@Searching4Truth1 Does this mean you're not going to make up any more pretend "facts" for us today? :(
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns
OOPS, my bad again
A-hah!
You're the shill that's running around hitting these reports about WI ^_~
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
@Searching4Truth1 rahm and obama zionist communist
PatriotRadioMilitia 1 year ago
Let's be clear, All government bureaucracies are inefficient, wasteful, and very often corrupt. Union lobbyists and BIG money have purchased votes from mostly Democratic incumbent congressmen and women, and increased the average pay and benefits for Government workers, to, up-to three times that of public sector workers. Their exorbitant pensions are bankrupting most states...
But yet, Government Union Protesters make a scene in Wisconsin? Give us a break, it's time to get a real job.
btrask3 1 year ago
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Remember what Americans wouldn't have if there were never any unions in the United States: a 40 hour work week, paid overtime, lunch breaks, breaks, safety standards, insurance, paid vacation, and so on. Unions are the lesser of two evils. Capitalism fosters greed and singular workers are easily dealt with if they have a problem with conditions at work and voice their opinion which creates an atmosphere of fear. There is safety in numbers.
mordred612 1 year ago
@mordred612 Your comment was marked as spam, likely because all of the Glenn-Beck loving tards commenting on this video know that it's 100% true.
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@ratsnacage1 I am a union member and the protestors are wrong. I make TONS of money for not doing a whole lot and I watch ppl retire with ridiculous benefits. Don't smash the unions, but the unions power has gotten way to big and out of hand and they need to brought down some. There has to be some balance. Look at GM, the unions are paying salaries and bennies for ppl that haven't worked in yrs. You pay more for a car because of it. Unions aren't bad, but don't let them call the shots.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
It will take a Haz/Mat team a good month to disinfect the building after those looney, diseased leftists quit squating and go back to their jobs.
ddddcinc 1 year ago
Aren't these teachers suppose to be teaching our children?
robm425 1 year ago
Scott-Walker = Koch Whore Escort Guy.
ConservateEliberat0r 1 year ago
@ConservateEliberat0r and the brilliance continues to shine...dont you have any real arguments...of course you dont...go ahead...call me some names cause thats all you got...go ahead...shoot...i could give two fucks you waste of sperm...
thebackbencher666 1 year ago
@thebackbencher666 Go to hell, you fucking republican ass-fagger!
ConservateEliberat0r 1 year ago
@ConservateEliberat0r It's funny how liberals end up resorting to personal attacks and use foul language. Absolutely no class.
Dccole3214 11 months ago
Thank you public union protestors for showing the rest of America,,,,,
Many, not all, but many of you are,,,,,
THUGS, AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR ANYONE ELSES POINT OF VIEW OTHER THAN YOUR OWN, HOMOPHOBES, BIGGOTS, RACISTS BY CALLING THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU, ALL THOSE THINGS.
NWsubmom 1 year ago
@NWsubmom
thank YOU for showing what idiocy lies on the other side of the aisle in this debate :)
evanWith7 1 year ago
@NWsubmom No one cares whether you're a homophobic racist bigot who can't spell.
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns homophobic racist SEXIST XENOPHOBIC bigot. Go for the gusto ramen.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@NWsubmom go fuck yourself you lazy racist whore
justonefirefly1 1 year ago
@justonefirefly1 Spoken like a true union THUG.
Bought and paid for by the Democratic party!
NWsubmom 1 year ago
THESE POLICE SHOULD BE FIRED.
They are paid to stand up for LAW and ORDER!
Police officers have been letting people get attacked by UNION THUGS.
FIRE THEM ALL!
NWsubmom 1 year ago
@NWsubmom
THOSE POLICE ARE THE PEOPLE!
YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU????
sk8bow 1 year ago
@sk8bow I know , we get it.
The only people who are REAL PEOPLE with any rights are UNION people!
It doesn't matter about upholding the law for ALL without taking sides, is it????
NWsubmom 1 year ago
Can anyone actually say their lives are better since Obama has been in office??
larry5200 1 year ago
@larry5200 Everyone can say their lives are worse off since Bush had his 8 years to destroy America!
Tesstyify 1 year ago
@Tesstyify blah blah blah is all by design dip shit obama is a tool just like bush , wake up
PatriotRadioMilitia 1 year ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia blah blah blah... sounds like another uneducated tea bagger. Go back to school and fight for higher wages due to education rather than taking from those that spent years upon years to educate themselves and who are ENTITLED to earn what they put in. Stop with the president bashing, stop with the rhetoric and look at the full picture. Teachers should never be put in the poor house and neither should any other hard working man or woman. Reality is going to kick your ass
Tesstyify 1 year ago
Now several Republicans have indicated they don't approve of Gov Walker's tyrantical tactics & will vote against the bill - but the demonstrators should remain until they are absolutely sure of this.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
@DillonDee1 Tyrannical? So making the unions pay more into their healthcare and pension plans, while still being 50% lower than what their private sector/non-union counter parts pay, is tyrannical? Telling them they can't collectively bargain for benefits, benefits that basically DOUBLE their income to a level well above their private sector/non-union counter parts? When you don't have to pay for something yet you still receive it, it's as good as getting CASH for it.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
PUBLIC employee unions. Key word is public.
No soup for you.
the82spartans 1 year ago
Leftist protesters and voters are disgusting
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 1 year ago
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 you're the only idiot I see here... how about giving some concrete facts instead of your asinine opinions... no one cares what you think...
Tavera12 1 year ago
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1
YOU IDIOT!
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE MESSING WITH MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!
sk8bow 1 year ago
@sk8bow Only 10-12% of people. 2 million federal employees manage just fine without a union. You will too.
ladylordess 1 year ago
@ladylordess You've managed your whole life with only 1/2 of a normal human brain, so surely others can get by with less too! Right?
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns
You've managed with 1/4 of a human heart and no brain, so anything is possible.
ladylordess 1 year ago
Unions are retards that cant work without leeching of government.
If they had any fucking worth - they wouldnt NEED the government to wipe their assesm and they'd get real jobs.
Private = If I get fired, or dont like my pay - I quit and get something else!! THATS LIFE!!!
Union = If I get fired or dont like my pay - I blame someone else, cry, blame government or get my union to bribe public officials.
jabberwolf 1 year ago
@jabberwolf wth are you even talking about. they'd get real jobs? Like police, teachers, factory workers etc? Those ARE the real jobs of america. Do some reading in your history books at school about how abused workers were in this country before unions, about sweatshops, cheap labor, and dangers in the workplace. I can only assume you're a child (especially since you use the word "retarded" in your post).
ocerg1111 1 year ago
@ocerg1111 He didn't clarify. He meant public unions and government employees in general. There are teachers who are no government employees nor are they unionized. From what I hear, they get paid pretty well. Like in any job, they have individual bargaining rights. When they go into an interview, they negotiate their salary and benefits. To collectively bargain wages and benefits is ridiculous. That is something that is determined by the individuals worth not an overall blanket number.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 "Negotiate" lol ... you think teachers can go in and just demand more money, and actually get anything? You sir are completely out of touch with reality and typical of the stooges supporting the corporate pigs taking over the country.
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns When you interview for the job, that is the moment to negotiate salaries, benefits, etc. Even raises, whether they be performance based or on a time schedule. Once you are employeed, you are locked into that contract/agreement with that business. Should the business be able to have "collective bargaining" to reduce your pay and benefits after the employment agreement? Why should you be able to walk in there and demand a raise, even if you want to call it collective bargaining?
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 Did you see the news yesterday where the CEO of 3M corp warned Obama to back off, quit over regulating and over taxing busnesses. He said he will just pick up his marbles and go to Canada or Mexico to do business there and take his little red wagon (employees) with him.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE I don't doubt it. I didn't see that in the news but eventually, most business will move overseas. I wouldn't be surprised if 3M moved overseas soon.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@RamenReturns If you don't like how much you make at your current job, and your performance warrants a raise but you do not receive it, you have two choices. Suck it up, work harder and try again down the road or GET A NEW JOB where you can negotiate for a higher pay or better benefits.
If you want to be able to adjust wages on the fly, then a business owner should do the same. Actually he does. It's called getting fired and that's what all these teachers who aren't working should be.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 So sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you don't get to tell me what choices I have. :( Perhaps you should reassess your view of your own importance in the universe, it seems you believe it to be much greater than it actually is.
RamenReturns 1 year ago
@RamenReturns I can tell you what choices you have, the basic choices. You, as an individual, may have additional choices. Maybe you're sleeping on top of a big pile of cash. Maybe you'll win the lottery tomorrow. Many things will chance certain choices you have, but that does not chance the basic choices you have as an employee. You either take it like a man or find a new job. You are not entitled to work for any business. You don't own that business. You are their by mutual benefit agreement.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 Guess what fucktard? I don't care what you think my choices are because you're as important to me as a speck of dirt! Go fuck yourself and play daddy somewhere else.
RamenReturns 11 months ago
Where are these smelly bastards going to the bathroom??
larry5200 1 year ago
These union thugs are nothing more than terrorist. . I say blow them away....
djm9063 1 year ago
a Tea Partier and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "Watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."
justonefirefly1 1 year ago
@justonefirefly1 Who bought the cookie? Did the CEO buy it? If so, why wouldn't be entitled to as many friggin' cookies as he wants?
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 Not the fucking cunt CEO - he stoled them from American VETS and taxpayers and union guy who is a VET and a Taxpayer. and an American
The CEO is from another country and inherited wealth and his daddy bought him the job
The CEO is a coward cunt
justonefirefly1 1 year ago
@justonefirefly1 Way to generalize all CEOs. You do realize a CEO can be as small as the mom and pop shop? Just because you believe all corporate structures to be evil, and I'm not saying that there isn't inherently greedy CEOs and business owners out there, but corporations don't have to be billion dollar entities. He didn't steal anything. The employee works there at his own choice. He can work somewhere else or start his own business. What we need to do is not get angry at eachother and THINK
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
good on ya for protesting hard against losing say ,dont sound good...
SweeterThanKisses 1 year ago
Guess what Governor isn't showing up in Washington for the Governor meeting with the president...you got it..Walker. He must be just a little ashamed of what he is doing that he would turn down the opportunity to put forward this budget fix to all the Governors.
Boomer1949 1 year ago
@Boomer1949 Or he's too busy to be a part of a dog and pony show in DC. I dunno, maybe he would rather to real work within his State.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 Or maybe he's still thinking that phone call from Koch is real and he's packing for that play date.
Boomer1949 1 year ago
Stay Strong Wisconsin!! This is a big step they want to take to bring down the middle class.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
Good to see the republicans stand their ground and not give in to entitlement, unionist thugs.
No room for free rides in America.
We're all in this together.
MinmatarThrasher 1 year ago
@MinmatarThrasher Keep on sucking Koch, son. Maybe they'll throw you a bone for being a good dog...
masercot 1 year ago
@masercot Or how about you work harder to achieve your own goals in life. Koch or no koch. Soros or no soros. Each side has this demonized puppet master. Think what you want. I'll take freedom any day. Unions are the antithesis of freedom. The only ones that benefit from unions are the unions themselves.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
@AmericanLibertarian1 I've been working for thirty years, son. I do okay for myself. Unlike neocons, however, I think beyond my own pocketbook. Without the unions, we'd be relying on corporations to do the right thing. I strongly recommend that you do not hold your breath if that happens...
masercot 1 year ago
@masercot Awwww is poor baby mad that he has to live like a normal person now and not mooch off other people?
There there...it's not so bad providing for yourself..
MinmatarThrasher 1 year ago
@MinmatarThrasher Been providing for myself longer than most of you girls have been alive. And, I am considered management. Unlike neocons, however, I look at what is best for the nation and not myself...
masercot 1 year ago
@masercot " Unlike neocons, however, I look at what is best for the nation and not myself... "
The very opposite of that is happening though. By cutting all the perks unionist get from tax dollars saves the state (and albeit the nation) valuable tax dollars in a time when state governments are struggling to pay the bills. You guys can whine and cry all you like, but sacrifices have to be made in order to stay afloat. And taxing wealthy people is not the answer. You don't punish succesful ppl.
MinmatarThrasher 1 year ago
@MinmatarThrasher Taxes are punishment? Amazing how you neocons love to play with language. It works well on the stupid.
The so-called perks that the unions had in Wisconsin were from years of salary concessions. I.e. They forewent raises and took less tangible reimbursement. Now it is being used by neocons as an excuse to attack them.
I understand you neocons are like dogs and your masters are the rich. But, they truly don't pay their fair share and tend to sell out the country quickly.
masercot 1 year ago
@masercot
Over taxing people who acquired wealth through personal success is punishment.
You don't punish people for being successful in life.
This is a concept you entitleist, left wing socialist will never understand. As you're too caught up in the " ME ME ME. I deserve to have the money that other people made through their own success because I failed at life and can't see my own success! "
I'm glad my tax dollars aren't funding your benefits when I have none myself.
MinmatarThrasher 1 year ago
@MinmatarThrasher You can be assured that the wealthy pay less in taxes than you or I. How nice that they've persuaded you that anyone who has issues with that is a socialist. Too bad they didn't tell you that EVERY WESTERN NATION IS SOCIALIST. There are no purely capitalist nations. Why is that? Simple...
An economy based upon greed is not viable, son...
masercot 1 year ago
OSCAR WENT TO THE WISCONSIN PROTESTERS FOR BEING THE MOST UNORIGINAL PROTEST SINCE THE SIXTIES!!!
10EIGHTXRAY 1 year ago
Now march to white house pull down the minora and obalisk and all zionist rule symbols from your country wake up america and roar send a message to the zionist scum that rule your country, before its too late.
edtheball69 1 year ago
Wow! The police are showing such patient restraint with these protestors. Why is that? Could it be because the police see the protestors as fellow public employee who are demonstrating for all their self interest. Blind Justice? I don't think so. Down with services provided by government funded/enforced monopolies, Up with services provided by a free market.
bangul 1 year ago
@bangul LOL Walker violates law by creating a new unconstitutional law so he can force the protesters out of the capitol which is owned by THE PEOPLE, and you want to make wise cracks about this being blind justice. The fact of the matter is, the law Walker created to kick the people out of the capitol is not legal and the police do not enforce FAKE laws. If Walker created a law saying anyone with the screen name bangul has to give him his home, would you vacate your home?
Tesstyify 1 year ago 2
@Tesstyify What law proposed by Walker to remove protestors are you talking about? Maybe your talking about his budget proposal? If that’s the case then could you tell me what part of the Federal or Wisonsin Constitution it violates.
Also Check out the Winsonsin Professional Police Association’s (WPPA) website. Find it’s “Information on Governor Walker’ Budget Adjustment Bill”. In it the police organization states its opposition to the bill. You don’t think maybe this has something to
bangul 1 year ago
@bangul do with the 2 weeks of leniency the protestor’s had. If these protestors where instead protesting for school choice vouchers do you think they would get 2 weeks? I say again, justice here is not blind. These protestors have pull with the police.
As for your example, the law would be unjust because the rent I pay involves no coercion or fraud thus is a voluntary exchange. As for state funded/enforced monopolies, if a taxpayer
bangul 1 year ago
@bangul is not happy with services provided then opting out financially is likely to get him put in a cage, or killed if he resists. Which is why few services as possible should be funded by taxation. Coercive funding means the lowest quality for the highest price.
bangul 1 year ago
@bangul Walker drafted a new law about a week ago... do a search in your search engine. Constitutionally, the building belongs to the people and I certainly do not have enough room in YouTube comments to explain that, but you can search that out as well, or maybe even call a civil rights attorney who will have information on the rights people have to property paid for by their tax. Our founding fathers certainly did not give ownership of tax paid buildings to those that work for us. chk law
Tesstyify 1 year ago
@Tesstyify I did some searching on google trying to find such a law before posting my last comment. Even the few articles I scanned on the protesters in the public building mentioned nothing about police ignoring a law. There could be such a law, but you'll have to suggest a search term if I'm to find it.
I wish youtube would drop that 500 character limit. Have a 2,000 character limit and If someone types more then 500 characters then just put a more link at the bottom of their comments
bangul 1 year ago
@bangul Actually, I am not sure that Walker can legally pass that law specifically with out the 14 Dems, but some law he can, and I did read a report that he did pass it. In the protest, someone quoted it here earlier, it was said The police joined the protesters, and said "We know the difference between right and wrong. We are not going to remove you instead we will be sleeping beside you" This is only one of the statements they made AFTER the law..they were ordered to leave the Capitol.
Tesstyify 1 year ago
@Tesstyify AFTER the law.... meaning your search for the appropriate articles relating to the law created to get them out of the capitol will be as old as one or two days (maybe a weekend to) before the protesters were first told by the police that they were ordered to clear the building.
Tesstyify 1 year ago
I should add, before that statement I quoted, I watched it on upstream, the police said, "they were ordered" to remove them from the building... then the rest of the quote I provided. Try searching for words like Walker wants protesters out of Capitol, legislators complain of noise, these were things I remember being in the article relating to Walkers law, and not sure if discussion on what laws he could and could not pass without the 14 was in that same article.
Tesstyify 1 year ago
@Tesstyify You may not like Ed Schultz, but he does have some Wisconsin Constitution information you were interested in. It is just a few minutes into the video msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41841037#41841037
It doesn't give the actual chapter and paragraph, but the language could be used in your search to find that in the WI Constitution
Tesstyify 1 year ago
As far as your comment re: the WPPA, the police and firefighters did back Walker at election time, however, if you would have been watching the coverage on upstream you would have seen the interviews wherein these union heads and union members APOLOGIZED for this and said they didn't understand Walker's agenda at the time, but now know, and most vowed not to vote Republican again due to what they are now seen to be about.
Tesstyify 1 year ago
@bangul
Because its in the Police's best interest
Police are LEGALLY BRIBED through government kick backs provided by unions.
Bad cops can do incredible shit... but they are protected and get rich benefits if fired, for doing a bad job,
Police in Wisconsin = crooked
jabberwolf 1 year ago
@jabberwolf BULL.
ocerg1111 1 year ago
If all yall had voted last time you would not be protesting this time but good luck to to yall anyways fight on.
spider879 1 year ago
@spider879 -- But I see a couple of Tea Party folk who're in labor unions & who did vote now saying they wish they had their vote backs.
DillonDee1 1 year ago
Fuck this corrupt system.
derekjlight 1 year ago
watever...go freakin live in iran if you don't like this country.....
chyressa 1 year ago
@chyressa that's right-lay down and take it like a good dog...learn to spell also.
jenniferashley99 1 year ago
@jenniferashley99 IT SOOO FUNNY...... YOUR GONNA LOSE AND YOUR GONNA LOSE BIG TIME...IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AND YOUR ALL SCARED, SCARED TO DEATH... WE HISTORICALLY TOOK YOU OUT IN 2010 AND IN 2012 NOT ONLY WILL WE FINISH YOU OFF BUT WE ARE GOING TO CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.... SORRY YOUR GONNA HAVE ALOT OF STATE WORKER LAY OFFS I GUESS WE CAN THANK THE DEMS FOR SOMETHING.....THE PARTY OF WELFARE AND UNEMPLOYMENT. IT'S WORKING FOR THEM!!! STUPID PEOPLE. CRACKS ME UP
chyressa 1 year ago