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  • Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. Captives refers to the people who are suffering with the curse of this world. Life with him is freedom from the curse if you truly know HIM. Jesus said,"I AM the way, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, no one comes to the Father except through me." Jesus cleansed the Lepers, showing us that he is for us, not against us! Maybe you should see what other religions can do for leoprosy?

  • The humanist means? Your life is as vapour opposing the wind. One might think that our lives are a gift since we never made ourselves. We also don't have one single ounce of power to cause our lives to continue forever. Why do people think that if we deny the truth, it simply will not exist. Our lives are because they we given for relationship. If we do not want to believe GOD exists, we don't have to. Simply stated the vapour does not direct the wind. One day all the chaff will be gone!

  • @agugin36 I appreciate your sentiments, but the simple fact of the fragility of life is not proof for the existence of a personal god, and I don't know why you think it is. I would like to note, however, that primitive thinking like yours does nothing to improve the quality and quantity of life. Attributing the damage done by a bolt of lightning to the wrath of a god does nothing to help anyone, but logic might lead to the construction of a lightning rod, which can help minimize the damage done.

  • @agugin36 I find it a little strange when people assume that I don't want to believe that a god (usually theirs) exists, or that I know the truth but choose to deny it. I simply hold your god to the same standards of evidence that I hold to the boogeyman, the tooth fairy, trickle down economics, and all the other unsupported claims that people have made.

  • WHERE THE ZYZZ AT???

  • Numbers 21:8

    John 3:14

    2 Cor 5:21

    No argument, just something to consider.

  • and the point of this video was..?

    

  • wat strong zyzz correlation

  • Yep it is the symbol that most images we associate with the medical profession uses. the double helix has meant a lto to a lot of different organizations. Let me point out  that just that fact does not overule the Biblical evideanse and it certainly is the glue that sticks everything together. That cannot be denied.

  • I was saved in February this year and since I have accepted Christ my life has changed in ways I never dreamed. I have traumatic arthritis with no cartlidge between the joints in my foot. I prayed for healing after surgery on my back and I suddenly realized that not only does my back not hurt anymore.... I have no pain in my foot for the first time in 6 years. God is awesome!!

  • I have a friend who was an addicted druggie, he came to Christ and was completely healed. No cold turkey or positive state of mind stuff, it happened in an instant. He is a completely different person today. God touched him - and who are we to deny it happened in his life? If he says it was God, who are we to argue?

  • The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." Psalm 53:1

  • @jmy60 "The fool hath said to himself, 'I shall go and quote scriptures to people who do not hold them to be the truth, and I shall act as if I've made a valid point.' And lo, he was insufferable, and didst think much of himself." -Grogdol 5:7, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

  • @pageboythehumanist No I am simply refering to what God says in his word. I realise you don't believe in the scriptures but that does not prevent me from quoting them (IE your unbelief). That is your problem. I hold them to be true. Your mocking is also evident that you don't know how to respond - it is the lowest form of wit!

  • @jmy60 I respond with mockery because your scripture mocks me, and our lazy shot at my personal beliefs deserves no more response than that.

  • @pageboythehumanist Well just remember that you don't just mock me but God also. Why can't we have a healthy discussion without the mockery?? All I am trying to do is quote from my reference point - the scriptures.

  • @jmy60 If we were to have a healthy discussion, we'd be having it already. Instead you decided to indulge in the christian equivalent of name-calling.

  • @pageboythehumanist Now where do you suppose I did that? I quoted Psalm 53:1, not directed at anyone in particular. It is truth, not opinion. Think about it, when a man says there is no God, he is putting himself up as an all-knowing deity.You must then know everything about the universe to come to such a conclusion. It is like saying there is no gold in China; you must know for certain that in all of China there is no evidence of gold. You are then all knowing, an extreme authority! Foolishness

  • @jmy60 I don't believe in any god, and that includes myself. I also never said that I know for certain that there is no god. What I DO know is that it's incredibly unlikely, and that supposing he exists without evidence is foolishness. Just like how I wouldn't invest my life savings in a business without bothering to check whether or not it was a scam.

  • @pageboythehumanist To say that it is incredibly unlikely that there is no God takes a lot of faith in what you know. I admire you for that! There is historical evidence of Jesus (even from outside of the Biblical record). AND even if there was only a hint of truth and a few records of the miracles he did, and what he came to do for us (without us desrving it) isnt it worth having a look and at least start searching for the truth? Why do you say we have no evidence? There is plenty of evidence.

  • TheMCBADGER ...no all I said was that viewing DNA under an electron microscope does not show any wings at the top. you probally wanted to send that comment to do22unpotokio who added a "PS" after my post.

  • Wow, I want to thank you for strengthening my belief in the finished work of Jesus! The double helix acually goes back to the Book of Exodus, when serpents bit and poisened the Isrealites. God told Moses to make a brass serpent put it on a pole and raise it in the middle of the camp, and whoever looks upon the brass serpent shall be healed. Though you point at a greek god, the symbol you reference actually is a symbol from the Bible...LOL

  • @Milkman635 Congratulations! Not only did you successfully ignore the point that there are TWO 'snakes' in a laminin protein (Moses' staff only has one) but you also managed to completely miss the point of the entire video.

    Still, I'm not surprised that you took even the smallest possibility of being correct and ran with it. So in regards to facilitating the very smallest point you needed to continue to think that your personal bias is justified, you are most welcome. :)

  • @pageboythehumanist I got your point. For those who don't believe no amount of evidence is enough, and for those who do believe, no eveidence is reuired. Love you

  • @Milkman635 So long as you realize that you follow your god for no good reason at all, I have no problem. Just don't expect me to follow your path of ignorance.

  • @pageboythehumanist There is no rightness or wrongness to the point, no matter what anyone says you don't want to consider God or His love for you. You may not believe in God, but He believes in you! You have an amazing mind and it is a gift from God. Love you brother

  • @Milkman635 It's not that I don't want to consider the idea that your god exists, it's just that I have a very hard time telling the difference between invisible and non-existent. If your god wants me to believe in his existence, he should know how to convince me. He hasn't done so, so I must conclude that if there is a god, he doesn't want me to know he's there. How, then, can you fault me for disbelieving when it's clear that your god does not want me to believe?

  • @pageboythehumanist Interesting line of arguement there! Jesus knew the hearts of the religious leaders in his day and did not perform any miracles among them. The bible clearly teaches that God reveals himself to those with a right heart and attitude.

  • @jmy60 I think what you meant to say was "God reveals himself to those who first set themselves up for a confirmation bias."

  • @pageboythehumanist NOt sure what you mean?? God reveals himself to those who seek him with all their heart. They are not my words, nor from any human origin, but from the word of God!

  • @jmy60 You don't find it odd at all that god reveals himself only to those who already believe that he exists?

  • @pageboythehumanist I didn't say to those who BELIEVE he exists! I said to those who seek him. In fact Jesus offered to help the man who's son was stricken by a demon & his reply was, "Lord help me in my unbelief!" & then Jesus rebukes the demon & it leaves. I have seen demon possession by the way, & the amazing power of God to release people from possession. It is a common occurence today along with miracles of healing - many stories! Why not ask God to help you in your unbelief?

  • @jmy60 Why would anyone seek someone when they don't believe that person exists? That makes absolutely no sense. Besides, what makes you think I HAVEN'T asked before?

    So you've seen an exorcism? Did you manage to get a good look at the demon when it was cast out of the body? Did you get a picture of it, maybe? I've never been to an exorcism myself, but I HAVE seen someone heal a man's pain without the use of pain killers. It's called the placebo effect. The power of suggestion is potent stuff.

  • @pageboythehumanist I agree. If you don't believe then you probably wont seek. But the reverse is quite true! A person coming to faith starts with doubts & fears but if they put even a small amount of trust in God, this is the start of their journey of belief. I am sorry if you have asked God. But was it sincere?? Demons are spirits so they are not usually visible but the effect is seen in the person's life. Placebo effect is known but is limited by human capacity. Miracles are supernatural.

  • Then what do you suppose happened, every single galaxy just popped up out if nowhere and everyone was happy?

  • @BG12228 Personally? I have no idea for sure what happened, and neither do you. The thing is, I can just admit that I don't know instead of pretending I DO know.

  • He has been there since the beginning of time, nobody created him.

  • @BG12228 What, you think he just appeared out of nowhere one day by accident? Just popped to life waving happily, saying "Hi, I'm almighty god! Welcome to reality!"

  • You are trying to understand an infinite, eternal God with a finite mind. In this life we will never completely understand the mystery of creation with our own limited thinking. I am the first to admit this, but God gives us enough through His word to know him and place our trust in Him. When we do that He give us HIs Spirit to understand what we would never understand without Him. PS Your heading "Laminin, protein of the Gods" should be small g for gods or "protein of God

  • @jmy60 RIGHT! obviously the human brain cant understand an infinite eternal god which makes it obvious that a bunch of unknown people from the early times of civilization could write a book that knows all of his likes and dislikes and his eternal crib where the good people go and how he made humans with everything else then flooded the earth cause he was bored of his game of cosmic sim city.

  • @TheMCBADGER Do your homework! Study the scriptures before you commence your arguement - please! Research the Bible and you will discover that it is historically correct, and that God spoke through his people the words written on every page. It is amazing that when Moses wrote the Pentateuch (first 5 books of the Bible) that what recorded has come to pass historically hundreds of years later. The writings of Isaiah foretold with great accuracy the coming of the Messiah, 700 years later.

  • @Fergusandconfuscious do you find it historically accurate that a man lived for 900 years in an age during which the expected life span was less than 60.......

  • @TheMCBADGER ONce again you have not done your homework, naughty boy! Yes man did live for centuries but in Genesis 6:3 it says; Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." Where did you get "...less than 60 (years) from???

  • @jmy60 it was an estimate due to lack of medical advancement at the time. i think it is quite accurate. is it historically accurate that man was created by god well after man evolved in reality, or that the bible suggests a earth that is roughly 4,499,994yrs younger than scientific data has reported

  • @TheMCBADGER I have given you some references from the Bible but you seem only to be able to provide unsubstantiated comments like "it is historically accurate" based on your assumptions, and "scientific data has reported". Come on give me some substance!

  • I only have to say that many atheist argue that everything all happened by coincidence. If it did how do you explain the connections of the human eye, the atoms, the basic and tiniest units of life!? This didn't all just happen by accident, there is some mightier being watching over us. People just didn't suddenly pop up from the ground and say hi welcome to earth. Someone had to create them.

  • @BG12228 So who created the creator?

  • @BG12228 complexity arises from simplicity. if you were to claim god was the uncaused cause it would be easier to just say that the big bang was the uncaused cause. instead of god--->big bang--->us....................­........ big bang--->us....... is a lot simpler. look up occam's razor, always reject the more complex argument... in this case... the god argument. i was a believer once but then you get educated and realize that nobody truly knows what happened... regardless of what's in a book.

  • @BG12228 let me just clarify that the big bang didn't lead to the direct creation of human life. that happened billions of years after. evolution = change over time. miniscule changes over time lead to human life today as we know it. there is no popping up and stuff like that. magic isn't real.

  • @BG12228 no scientist will suggest it is an accident

  • Hmm... OR perhaps this is just the shape the protein evolved to best perform it's task within the human body... There are so many different proteins at work, one was bound to resemble an extremely simple structure such as a cross, when you look at it a certain way up, and straighten out its naturally random and wobbly appendages. If this is considered solid evidence for the Christian God, I fear you guys are clutching at straws...

  • @jacoblebreton No - it is not solid evidence of God, but one among millions of examples of HIs exsitence. Go looking and you will be amazed and the complexity of not just the human body but all created things!

  • @jmy60 the cross is the image of a the torture devise used to torture his son as a sacrifice to end human suffering in the name of original sin. so when god made adam he put the image of a cross in laminin before original sin was even committed. this and the fact that an omniscient god could not prevent a man from eating his apple makes it undeniable that if your god exists he fully planned out the suffering that has befallen all of humanity since the beginning of our existence. very convincing!

  • @TheMCBADGER Get the facts straight! 1. Re the fruit from the Tree of Good & Evil - show me where it says it was an apple? 2. God didn't plan human suffering - he ached over fallen humanity. But he did prepare a way to redeem us, knowing that we would fail him. I am a sinner, you are also. Some of us have accepted God's love...that he would send his son to suffer for OUR sin. All who believe in him will have eternal life. The cross is a symbol of God's plan to redeem man not to create suffering

  • @Fergusandconfuscious first of all i didnt suggest it was an apple. i simply referred to an apple because it will show the obvious absurdity in the story. remember i dont believe this, you do. if your god is omniscient and did not wish for the fall of humanity, then tell me why he did not disregard the free will of eve and tell her not to be beguiled by the snake. why did he create the snake, why did he create Lucifer, why did he create hell, why did he make us mentally capable of sin.

  • @TheMCBADGER No you didn't suggest it was an apple you TOLD us it was! Again,f you are going to debate an issue ensure you've done your research. The Bible calls Satan, a serpent, not a snake. God gives us free will - he isn't looking for robots. Lucifer was an angel in God's kingdom but we don't know why he chose to turn from God. True, we don't have all the answers but we have a wonderful resource in the Bible. Athiests have nothing!, Takes more faith to believe it all began without a Creator!

  • People see what they want to see. I am not saying this in any direction.

  • i like how all these people brainwashed by religion are voting you down...

  • Laminin answer: We get the symbol of the serpent on a pole because it was a picture of Christ. Num 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

    Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

    Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

  • pageboy,

    Your ignorance astounds me! You said nothing, but ridiculous espousings.

  • Your ignorance astounds me! You said nothing, but ridiculous espousings.

  • Oh and for the record, if you look at the close up of the REAL molecule, it doesn't have that squiggly line thing in the middle. It has the shape of a cross. It may not be "perfect" but neither are you or me or anyone else on this planet.

  • I sure hope you find out one day that God is true and real. It breaks my heart that you are not a believer. But it pains me much more that you are out trying to prove the non existence. I pray you find God, but I will warn you. There will come a day where you will be judged for this all, and yours will not be good.

  • When you are in search of a light, it may be closer than you think and if this is true, you wouldn’t need to travel the extra distance in order to find it. I have found this light and now it is inside of me, it gets me through sorrow and pain by revealing to me that faith is all I need. The light is Jesus Christ our redeemer and only through him one can have eternal live in heaven. I will pray that you will have a change in heart. God bless.

  • @Ch1naManChan We finally discovered some great things with the technology of the Hubble Space Telescope, and Je's saying: that's all you got? Every picture that has been received is better and better and yet you're still trying to find proof of His existence by using resources created by humans. That's why you need faith to believe in Him. Cuz our logic is stupidity to God. And the more I know God, the more stupid atheists' comments sound to me.

  • @Ch1naManChan Some people think they can grasp all of God, and catch Him and put Him in a box. That's what all the other religions are about. They make up some idea of a god that sounds good and reasonable, twist it so it can make sense to the human ear, and ta da!! But how can people be so foolish thinking they can understand the God of all universe. He made us, not the other way around. The point I'm trying to make is that God is way too big to get your mind around Him.

  • Just as much as I love God and know he's alive, I also know there's an evel part to this world. Everything that's evil comes from Lucifer, Satan, the devil and his angels. On the contrary, everything that's pure, whole, holy etc. Comes from God.

  • My experence in life already identifies that God is alive in me and He's working in and through me. You obviously don't give any thought to what I'm saying.

  • I cannot argue with you because there's truly no point. I already got to the root of your problem, and I cannot sit here and argue with you about something so foolish. I question God all the time. That's what were supposed to do in life. But you're not only questioning God, you oppose towards Him. So if you are a closed minded person, you will never see the point I'm trying to make because all you care about is trying to " proove to me that there's no such thing as dounuts."

  • Just because you went to church and did all that you said you did, it doesn't make you a christian. I can sit in my garage all day, that doesn't make me a car. Your whole mentality is upside down, and you make so sense in your coments. And you forget to add the devil inthe equation. Not everything that happens on earth is God's intension because it's all mixed in with the devil's intension and the humans' free will to choose between the two.

  • You're fooling yourself again. You have not experienced christanity my friend. Whatever you went through was all in vain. That, what you have done for the past twenty years of your life is going through the motions. I can see why you would say that christianity feels like people are programed robots. And that's probably how you felt am I not right? I certaintly didn't have the same experience.

  • And another thing is there's a difference between knowing about God and knowing God to a personal and intimate level. To give you an example of that would be like knowing or hearing gossip about a celebrity, but you don't know them personally, like a family member or a close friend would.

  • And let me tell you, God values freedom. God has given people the freedom to choose. He's not gonna force you to do what he wants. But He knows everyone wants to succeed in life. So He will do anything to have a relationship with us. That's why we won't prosper in anything if we don't have that relationship with Him where He guides us in the right direction. You have to choose to do His wil.

  • I wonder if the Christians hear commenting know that

    1.there is no historical proof of jesus anywhere other than the bible

    2.the bible was infact written by HUMANS

    3.that the substance called DMT which is found in the human brain is what most likely causes people to "see" christ as that is what they want to see

    and 4.that something that I don't even think looks like a cross IS NOT PROOF OF ANY GOD

  • @MEMESAREAWESOME Sorry to tell you but there are other historians who write about the life and death of Jesus. Try the readings of a Jew (who's religious leaders tried to deny the resurrection of Christ) Josephus, or Roman Historian or Tacitcus of Rome who writes about the evidence of the faith indicate that Christianity was wide spread in the Roman empire within 80 years of Christ's death. Again, these are eyewitness accounts, not historians looking back years later".

  • @jmy60 Do you know that the gospels weren't even written until about 100 to 200 after the time jesus supposedly died.

  • @MEMESAREAWESOME Yes they were written some time after the death and resurrection of Christ. But the Gospel of Mark for exampe was written somewhere around 60-70 AD. The writers wanted to record the events for future generations. Two of the gospel writers were eye-witnesses of the amazing life and testimony of Jesus Christ. John and Matthew were the first disciples of Jesus. They wrote them in order to give an accurate account (says Luke) so that people might believe in him (who weren't there).

  • @jmy60 How do you now though that the bible is accurate?

  • @MEMESAREAWESOME Thats a very good question! I guess it is like asking, how do I know if the newspaper written in 2011 on the9/11 bombing is accurate. The fact that it was written almost 10 years ago doesn't mean it is any less accurate today (IE age of writing doesn't really affect authenticity) but a supporting report from another paper would be good proof. Having 4 gospels that take a different angle on the story of Jesus, helps authenticates it. Same kind of idea I guess. Thanks for asking

  • @jmy60 But just having the four books actually doesn't help authenticate it.

  • @MEMESAREAWESOME How many books would satisfy you?

  • than surrender to the cia. It is much better to dare to hope.

  • to you, because if He does you will be as keen as ever a true Christian was if you really would like that. A true atheist is one who does not want such a perfect person because his desire to abuse and use his fellow man will be known and punished by such a God. The infamous Jim Jones who preyed on the 850 people who were foolish enough to follow him to British Guiana at the top of Brazil, had his henchmen force them at gunpoint to drink poison before he and his henchmen shot themselves rather

  • will be justly destroyed so the worthy one's can live forever in perfect harmony. The courage required to deny self and live a responsible life where it is easier to die for one's beliefs than living for them, does not deserve to be accused of using belief in God as a crutch, depicting those who don't accept a Creator as brave and able to stand on their own. Foxes book of martyrs puts paid to that idea. If you really would like a Creator that is infinitely just, why not ask Him to refeal Himself

  • transgresson ofHis Will and law to convince not only those on earth, but also the countless unfallen human beings on the other world's the absolute necessity of absolute trust and obedience if they are to live forever getting ever better rather than ever worse. No matter how much has gone wrong on earth, when realized that God cannot allow free will without allowing abuse of that privilege but put limits to that, where the time is almost up, when those determined to be selfish and live for self

  • That is a big if Ch 1 naManChan, because it does not follow that because there is so much suffering in the world that it is the Creator's doing. On the contrary, it is much like the American Red Indian parents customarily organize their children to be in such a situation that they get themselves burnt once, but under supervision to minimize the damage from the necessary lesson since the child is constantly unattended with a fire in the Wigwam. God has set aside 6000 years to allow the course of

  • pageboythehumanist

    If Louis is correct and all is just like he says, especially the Laminin,my 59 years and eight months of living since birth tells me that you would not be smiling but most discontented to say the least.Why is this?Why would we not want an infinitely just and loving uncreateCreator/Redeemer who loves us above all else, unless of course,you are living for the moment and live by inclination,you know, "if it feels good,Do it!" If it wasn't for people living in the flesh,no crime!

  • @proSpiritofTruth if pageboythehumanist is correct the time i've spent on earth "living since birth tells me that you would not be smiling but most discontented to say the least.". Of course we would want this great creator you speak of, that's why it's so easy to believe in. O and i wouldn't exactly call him just, you know he does endorse slavery, genocide, murder, sexual inequality, so it's pretty hard to call him just.

  • attn pageboythehumanist - If you would like to do justice to Louis Giglio's reference then hear this"And I, if I be lifted up, I will draw all men to me!"

    Jesus was represented by the brazen serpent which Moses held up for the children of Israel to be saved from certain death when stung by th fiery serpents. Since sin entered the human race by the serpent in the Garden of Eden, Christ is represented by a serpent as He was made sin for us, yet without sin. Hence, this is more like the Laminin.

  • @Athramier You will never understand what God's plans are for people. Your mom is a very strong Christian. She will not die. God is on her side. God didn't give her this desease, but through this trial that she's going, she has an opportunity to draw near to God by trusting Him that He will heal her body. God is stretching out her faith, and bringing her closer to Him.

  • @22unpotokio this is what I love about christianity. Whenever something that we can answer comes up instead of looking for evidence, people just say o it's god's will he has a plan for everything we have no idea what it is. I have a question then, why would god make us knowing we would fail? This makes no sense, but i guess it does to you, because it's god's will....

  • Ch1naManChan I'm not quite sure how to address this question. God did

    not create us to fail in life. You have it all backwards. He intends

    for us to prosper in everything we do. The reason some people fail at

    life is because they're not submitted to knowing what God's plan is

    for their lives. And even if they do succeed, they're still not

    sattisfied because only knowing God brings true satisfaction. (I'm

    speaking from experience).

  • @22unpotokio Ok God is omniscient is he not? So we know god knows everything today yesterday and tomorrow. Thus using this logic it would only make sense god knew what was going to happen to the human race when he created it. So seeing as he knew that we wouldn't turn out perfect why would create us, knowing people were going to kill each other, rape each other, abuse each other, and on and on?

  • @Ch1naManChan Ch1naManChan I'm not quite sure how to address this question. God did

    not create us to fail in life. You have it all backwards. He intends

    for us to prosper in everything we do. The reason some people fail at

    life is because they're not submitted to knowing what God's plan is

    for their lives. And even if they do succeed, they're still not

    sattisfied because only knowing God brings true satisfaction. (I'm

    speaking from experience).

    Sent from my iPod

  • @Ch1naManChan And that religion thing, I have way too much to say, and if you want

    to talk, it'll be longer than a comment. But I'll say one thing:

    Christianity is more than a relegion. It's not about all these rituals

    and beliefs. It's about a personal relationship with a divine love,

    that helps you to find your purpose in this life. You cannot find that

    in any other religion, and that's why Christians are so dedicated and

    on fire for God.

    Sent from my iPod

  • look these conversations don't work too well in the convo section I wouldn't mind if you private messaged me so we could continue this discussion it is quite interesting. 

  • @Ch1naManChan So you could go off on your own not even knowing there's a God out there who has your best interest in mind, or you can get to know Him and allow Him to transform your life from the inside out. He values freedom. Imagine if He didn't: we would all be like programmed robots, bound to worshipping Him, whether we felt like it or not. But no, he made us to have our own free will.

  • @22unpotokio I love your analogy of robots. You go to church every sunday, sing the same hymns read from the same book, and do everything for god. You seem an awful lot like a robot. Look just look for evidence of god outside the bible, and outside of your heart. Look in history, in science, in archeology, and critically think about it. I used to be like you, but when you really question things you quickly realize how utterly unbelievable it can all be.

  • @22unpotokio and just to make another point. You believe your a morally good person I would suspect. Let's say you are a morally good person, you don't kill, you don't think slavery is right, nor do u think women should be treated lesser then men. Yet you believe in a god who believes in all these things. Deut 20: starting at verse 10 to about 16 clearly shows god is favor of genocide, and he's in favor of slavery. How can you believe in a god who has lesser morals then you?

  • @Ch1naManChan That's why you see some people really eager to know God, some that are confused cuz they have no idea what you're talking about, (they didn't experience God) and some that don't even wanna taste of Him: they oppose Him and try to explain He's not real.

  • @Ch1naManChan Honestly I can see how some people could have that mentality. It's absolutely reasonable and logical, and for some Christians it's hard to express their feelings and what they come to know about God. So again, it sounds so foolish for me to say this, and I don't expect people that don't know god to read my comments and say: oh ok I get it.... I totally do now. It takes faith. That's where you start.

  • @Ch1naManChan People who didn't experience God have no clue of what I'm trying to

    say. They just have to try God and He will reveal himself to anyone

    who seeks Him with all of his heart. It's so funny how these coments

    can make total sense to Christians and no sense to non-christians.

  • @Ch1naManChan @Ch1naManChan I wanna help you understand this better, so I'm gonna but it in a different prespective. Let's say you love dounuts. They're the best dessert you've ever had. Another person from a different culture says the've tried every desert there is out there, and donuts don't exist. Wouldn't you feel like saying: man you're missing out big time...

  • @22unpotokio I was raised christian brought up in a christian home, went to church for 20 years, volunteered at said church for 20 years, volunteered at christian youth camps, and before you ask, yes I did ask god for forgivness and I asked him to come into my heart. I did all this because I was told to, and I was told if I did not I would forever burn in hell. So to say I never experienced christianity would be absurd. The thing is I finally questioned what I was told to believe in.

  • @Ch1naManChan Please read the coments bellow; they are for you even though I didn't address to you. 

  • @Ch1naManChan  All they do is try to explain to you that they're right and you're not. All the comments he would make to oppose the fact are so foolish towards you, and everyone else who likes doughnuts. That's how I feel man towards people who question God. They have't even tasted Him. It's just an example.

  • Ps: I honestly need to tell you this so that when you end up in hell, you cannot blame me for not ministering to you the good news that Jesus died for your sins so that you don't have to suffer. That is ONLY IF YOU BELIEVE. And this is not a laughing matter at all, I want you to know that my facial expression is dead serious.

    I'm praying for you my friend.

    Peace out.

  • @22unpotokio wow you must have a very immoral god if you expect this guy to receive endless torture forever because of a mistake made in a finite lifetime with a finite brain.................

    but nah, we atheists are immoral not you guys

  • @TheMCBADGER what is the atheists anwer to life then? RIchard Dawkins, your buddy, said on a show said "This life is pretty good isn't it?"... If a child is born with severe brain damage and dies a few days later what answer will you give the parents? "Oh well, that's life!"?? A follower of Jesus knows that this life is not the end of the matter. And can take hope despite incredible suffering that there is a better place, a home being prepared for them that is without pain, suffering and trials

  • @pageboythehumanist So as of right now I want to just keep you up to date since you're my good friend and I really want you to be informed:

    This case that Jesus lived on the earth is already a fact. There's no point to debate on that. Now what the people are debating in the Supreme Court is whether he rose back from the dead or not?

    You should probably do some more research before you dig yourself deeper.

    God Bless and good luck

  • @22unpotokio Muhammad lived on earth, why don't you believe in islam? joseph smith jr lived on earth why aren't you mormon? L. Ron hubbard lived on earth, why don't you believe in Scientology? I could go on an on, living on earth is not conclusive evidence that there was a god. You christian don't need conclusive evidence to believe in things so why am i wasting my time...

  • @Ch1naManChan If you were really sick, no doctor would prescribe cosmetic surgery. That would merely change the SURFACE, but wouldn’t touch the ROOT of your problem. Religion has little to offer, other than a system of conscience-soothing routines, leading to boredom and spiritual numbness.We don’t need a facelift, we need a heart transplant; and only the power of Jesus can perform that operation.A relationship with God changes our heart, from the inside out.

  • @Ch1naManChan Only the Creator of all things can establish our purpose in life, and that’s all about getting to know Him. Religion drove me to atheism, but a personal relationship with Jesus transformed my life. Why don’t you pray and invite Jesus into your heart today? Allow Him to be the Lord of your life. You’ll never be the same.

    - Francis Anfuso

  • Why is the Cross always missing a rose?

  • The double helix represents DNA also the stuff the body is made of. What is binding the DNA or holding it together is Laminin in the shape of a cross. Look at the electron microscope image of Laminin there is no denial it is the shape of a cross. I don't see any little wings at the top.

  • @dixiedrums mabey you saw discovering religion's video about this but....you are saying that god made adam with laminin, therefore knowing that he would have to torture christ on the cross before origional sin was ever committed. of course he knew, he is omniscient. so why didnt he stop eve from eating the FF. oh and the reason laminin looks like that is because of the nature and evolution of complex chemistry. didnt read anything about that in the bible

  • Incredible..amazing..Love i guess :)

  • and when he shows the microscope shot to the audience he outright lies to them all saying that its a "perfect cross" when it clearly is a squiggly wiggly X if anything. About as lame as saying the eyebrows are a Y, the nose an A and the mouth an H in the ridiculous claim that God's name is written on the face of man. Actually says forehead but they claim forehead means face and that the nose looks like a capital A and that God designed humans around the English language. They're really reaching.

  • Looks more like the cross of the Lord Jesus than what you say . Jesus is LORD.

  • You are lost. Please consider the claims of Jesus and repent of your sins.

  • @truevinecenter I already have considered the claims of Jesus. What do you mean by "I am lost"?

  • @pageboythehumanist You are lost in wikipedia my frd...if u really wana read an actual encyclopedia of creation of the world and all things that live in it and the purpose of their creation and world history please read - The Bible. The best selling encyclopedia of the world.

  • @asacredmemory Encyclopedias don't have narratives.

  • @asacredmemory You sound like a troll. :D

  • @asacredmemory nor are the fictional bs

  • NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN! ALL WRONG! That looks NOTHING like Laminin! Laminin is WAY more like the cross than the medical swirl!

  • Wow! Just like a "Liberal" always disturbed by the cross.

  • I thought it was an egyptian thing with snakes entwined??i could be wrong.

  • you say it is a representation of some greek mythology,, umm no it doesnt,, your an useless idiot

  • okay first of all, the greeks got it from the actual laminin molecile. so stfu. idiot.

  • @mhutton11 How many ancient Greeks do you know of that had microscopes powerful enough to see what this protein looks like?

  • @pageboythehumanist The ancient Greeks did many wonderful things... because of GOD!

  • @jacobjedi2 Oh, I see. So does that mean that the Nazis did terrible things because of your god? Or are you only willing to attribute him when good things happen?

  • @pageboythehumanist He does the good things, Satan PERFORMS the bad things. God just sometimes lets it happen. It's all part of His master plan for the world.

  • @jacobjedi2 You believe that your god created everything, even Satan, then why is he also not responsible for everything?

  • @pageboythehumanist Because He is Holy. He created everything to do His will, but He created humans, and Satan, with the choice to not accept Him. Why? Because He doesn't want to force us to follow Him. However, if we follow Him, we KNOW that He will raise us up above everyone else, to rule with Him for eternity. We are co-heirs of God, with Jesus Christ.

  • @pageboythehumanist He is and people are given the freedom of choice, a lot has to do with our decisions. Bad things happen but he will always see you through, sometimes painful situations are tests and trials. The hardship won't last as long as you depend on him and not on yoursef. plus, things just become so great so fast in your life once you start believing in Him. It's awesome! :)

  • @DayandRubyMora I love my mom, she's a christian and goes to church every week, I'm a secular humanist. She just started a job a few months back that's been just great for her. She's finally getting paid the money she should be making with her qualifications. Before that job, things were bad financially and it just kept getting worst from there. But now things are good or were. She likes to claim that she got her job because god had answered her prayers. I tell her that she got that job due...

  • @DayandRubyMora ...to her dedication to her studies in university, (she's a two time bachelor's degree holder, and she's working on her masters right now), and all her hard work. In her mind, all that time she's been thinking, "god's so good to me."

  • @DayandRubyMora ...But I'm happy to see her happy and not be as stressed as she once was. She's 41, all these years she's been working all her life for a job like this. Now she's been diagnosed with breast cancer. Why would a god that could be so "good" to her life, turn into an asshole all of sudden?

  • @pagethehumanist [It takes faith to start that 'journey', and then more faith to be able to grow in this relationship with God. You have no faith to begin with so why bother reasoning this fact (from your perspective) that God doesn't exist] you really are missing something here.My friend, I gotta let you in on this but my mind and your mind are not capable of understanding all the things of this world when it comes to spirituality. You need something like faith to believe God Exists.

  • @pageboythehumanist: Well the choice is left up to you. Your decision is not very wise. A christian's intention might not be to shove religious philosohpies down people's throats, but to share with the world an experience that is so out of this world. Some people are not so good at sharing what they're experiencing and are insulted because others are trying to deny that God exists when they have already experienced God personally.

  • Laminin is more of "God's glue". Who cares if it's in the shape of a cross or not!!

    Also see the work of Dr. Nicolas Gisin of Geneva & how freed electrons/photons think & are attached invisibly with signals faster than the speed of light(sorry Einstein) ...even if thousand of miles apart. They even know when they're being observed & react differently then. Also see Russian scientists whose research show that when DNA is introduced they do some interesting things!

  • Arguing about the way some christians live their life is not something we should be focusing on. That is between them and God. There are lots of new born christians who are weak in their faith, and are still in the process of developing a stable relationship with God.

  • @22unpotokio I have no problem with people believing what they believe. The problem comes when they purposefully try to misinform others, and try to force people like me to live by their religious tenets.

  • Read Proverbs chapter 1 verse 7. The fool in proverbs is someone who doesn't fear God. His opportunity of becoming a wise man is being taken away because he is blinded by the devil and doesn't realize it. He doesn't have fear of the Lord because he doesn't believe he exists and/or is ignorant (emphasis added). When you start believing in Him, that will be the beggining of your walk with Him. And you too can have incredible stories to share about what He did in your life.

  • @22unpotokio Doesn't it seem a little convenient? The authors of the bible have every motivation to call me a fool for not allowing myself to succumb to the same confirmation biases that they've fallen prey to. Their assessment is neither based in reason or logic, and could never stand on its own. So why should I heed the accusation of a book that is more than likely slandering people who think like me for the sake of its own narrative?

  • @pageboythehumanist Convenient yes, if they were like the worldly people you're thinking about. But now let me get this straight. So, if this is just a coincidence in the body, and everything else is a coincidence in the world, like most atheists believe, I quote "The calculations of British mathematician Roger Penrose show that the probability of a universe conducive to life occurring by chance is in 10^10123. The phrase "extremely unlikely" is inadequate to describe this possibility."

  • @pageboythehumanist Alright, well now that we know the universe and our cells and animaEither aliens with the ability to make life (I'm being serious since we're no longer using just "reason and logic" since that got us diddly squat), or a God that's as powerful as we think He is (probably more if He could do this).

  • @pageboythehumanist K, since we've never seen signs of alien, no legit and international books with thousands of witnesses have ever been written about aliens, and I have yet to to have someone tell me that they called on the name of their alien to help them because they felt their spirit. I am a witness to the power of God, not because my parents told me and not because the preacher put His hand on my head.

  • @pageboythehumanist It all starts with you. Have faith in God over the aliens, sounds stupid but what else could have done all this. You are not a machine. You're a soul. Life can't *poof* exist. It has to be given from a living being. yeah it seems hard to believe in a God who seems to give subtle signs, making it seem like nothing at all but "coincidence". Give it a shot, I've been through some tough times in my life and I know God is real. I used to laugh at people who said that, now I am.

  • is your face as ugly as your voice?

  • @j22philly You know, it sort of defeats the purpose of insulting someone when the insult doesn't make sense. How exactly can a voice be ugly? If you're actually that curious, I've got other videos where my face is showing, so you're free to go take a look at those. Then you can just leave a comment saying I'm ugly, and once your childish impulse to put down people who don't agree with you is satisfied, we can either have a discussion with actual meaning, or you can go about your business.

  • @pageboythehumanist Prooving God exists is not enough; experiencing His love is what it

    takes to believe, and be certain He exists.

  • @pageboythehumanist Prooving God exists is not enough; experiencing His love is what it

    takes to believe, and be certain He exists.

  • @pageboythehumanist Proving God exists is not enough; experiencing His love is what it

    takes to believe, and be certain He exists.If you would like to actually know God yourself, you have an opportunity to do so instead of just arguing with people. I suggest you develop a relationship with God by trusting Him with your life instead of opposing towards Him. But before you do that, I want to let you know that you can't have a relationship with Him if you don't believe He exists.

  • @22unpotokio Strange, isn't it? In order to get the proof I need to believe in your god, I have to give myself a confirmation bias, destroying any chance that I could ever possibly look at the so-called proof in an objective light. No, I'm sorry, but that's not going to work on me. I will wait until there's compelling evidence to indicate that there's any such thing as a god. Until then, there's no reason to believe he exists.

  • what a joke!!!!! this is the cross, a 3 fold cord is hard to break.... only a fool says there is no God

  • @pastorphilbvovc: I agree!!!! :)

  • wickapedia isn't truthful/fact! Apparently, global warning they said waz caused by a giant oven. LOL! You trust anything but God!

  • @ELITAH7

    I'd trust a peer-reviewed knowledge base over a 2000 year old fairy story any day of the week.

  • wickapedia isn't truthful/fact!

  • If you don't think its all about the laminin, I'd say ok. No big deal. If you believe in Je