Why Aren't Chimps Still Evolving Into Humans?

[strangerlover11]

So humans and chimps comes from common ancestor but he fucking idiot don't

know that he just imaginations and do you guys who do such a imaginations and do

not believe the proof of our nature the existing of God by the medical it call mad man

hahahahahahahhah

[joe80dmanizanerd]

@strangerlover11 Not only your spelling is horrible, your arguments are just as bad. You claim that a god exists, give 1 piece of positive evidence for it.

Oh wait, there'sno such tihng.

[ttopperr]

There is no substantial confirmable evidence of god; it's only what is believed. God is a supernatural entity to explain something supernatural you would need to go outside this realm of reality. The bible tried to explain it by putting it under a guise of no human is able to explain it of course it failed and The Church is born. Unintelligent people do fall for this guise though that’s why the majority of the world is religious. Large groups act dumb. Individual people are intelligent.

[ChronicDreamer1st]

You evolutionists are still on a journey of discovery, but you want to act as if the journey is complete and reap the rewards and benefits of completing it by acting like you already proved it all. It doesn't work that way. You must leave no room for opinions and world views and completely pack the space with nothing but facts so that it is solid as concrete. That's why its called concrete evidence, no room for guessing or supposing. So all I want is for you guys to get off your high horse.

[ChronicDreamer1st]

Darwin first discovered Adaptation and it was an amazing fact.

He then stretched it out to encompass all of creation and it is this theory that he named evolution that many people debate over the legitimacy of.

You can have adaptation without evolution but you cant have evolution without adaptation.

One is fact one is theory.

You can't take shortcuts in science and just say "oh well we can't prove it yet but there's so much evidence let's just call it a fact"

that's cheating truth.

[TheBlindWatch]

@ChronicDreamer1st the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Every time it is tested it is strengthened (see my other videos).

There is now "no reasonable doubt" that evolution occurred. However, that does not mean there aren't many things to discover. "Natural Selection" has very strong evidence but could still reasonably be doubted (just) and evidence may sway us in various directions but that evolution happened is a fact. We call something a "fact" when there is no reasonable doubt.

[ChronicDreamer1st]

@TheBlindWatch What humans consider to be "overwhelming" unbundances are quite frequently very small amounts on a cosmic scale. The is also an "overwhelming" amount of holes in the theory of evolution and unanswered questions that are skipped and saved for later as well as necessary coincidences that have such low chances of having happened as to remain virtually impossible to have occurred.

[ChronicDreamer1st]

But unlike normal science where the same people discover the evidence for AND against their theory, in evolution it seems to be only the people against it find and document this evidence against it in videos, books, etc and the scientists in favor of it don't breath a word about these facets of the theory.

[BigMikeMcBastard]

@ChronicDreamer1st Sounds like Ben Stein talk. There isn't any conspiracy to suppress evidence that counters evolution. That's not how the scientific community works. If someone can do the research and get the results and have it peer reviewed, they can change scientific thinking. The fact is that there isn't any credible evidence against evolution. If there were, it would be assessed and incorporated into the theory, or create a new theory entirely, very eagerly.

[ChronicDreamer1st]

Science, like Journalism, suffers greatly from bias. But no one wants to admit they are biased or are incapable of being introspective enough to realize they are which is funny when you consider that these types of people spend the majority of their lives trying to see the "bigger" picture.

[TheBlindWatch]

@ChronicDreamer1st Exactly. And in science, the only way to try and deal with bias is to have more and more people do experiments and research and try to eliminate the effects of bias by providing many inputs and therefore many biases - such that they will smooth out. It's not perfect, but it's the only way.

[TheBlindWatch]

@ChronicDreamer1st I think you'll find that there is such a thing as quality of evidence. There is no good quality evidence against evolution at the moment. If there was, scientists would flock to it - imagine if you could provide quality evidence against evolution - you'd be a millionare/celebrity overnight and any scientist worth his salt would greet it enthusiastically - they would love to be proved wrong - as long as it can be verified. I would find it very exciting.

[ChronicDreamer1st]

So basically he can't explain the earth shattering leaps and bounds we humans have supposedly take from the same ancestors as the chimps and why the chimps are taking a million times longer to evolve than we did.

[TheBlindWatch]

@ChronicDreamer1st @ChronicDreamer1st that is what I'd call the stance from a combination of ignorance and arrogance. Chimps are not "taking longer to evolve" - have a think about how better adapted they are to their current environment. That humans were challenged in ways which resulted in larger and larger brains is a result of different environmental changes & challenges eg Chimps don't need to go killing animals to survive - a suitable adaptation considering the plant types around.

[sleeplesssoul666]

If that is true, we are STILL evolving. I dont see that. To my mind we are going backwards, straightly :)

[VinnyBloo]

@sleeplesssoul666 Evolution doesn't dictate that things must get better. Some creatures have evolved in certain very non-beneficial ways. Like the Giant Panda, instinctually eating bamboo which it cannot properly digest, or the Dodo bird being flightless, fat, and all-around extinctable. We humans seemingly have smaller brains and weaker bones than our ancestors.

[5tonyvvvv]

yeah thats cause we never came from the trees like apes and monkeys!!!!!!!!..man has always been man created by God..and all life did not happen by accident and random chance..Evolution is Bullshit!!!!!

[bubbledom]

well who was that common ancestor we could not find a hundred squelettons of the species ? not missing link here... missing hindred squelettons never faound.

passing by the sumerin records we lern we were "evolved" by geneticians.

the question is still valid. Why did the fish not all evovlve into frogs ?

we could say because of FREEDOM ...

all beings like their behaviour pattern, some evoloved, some not.

[tipoomaster]

Quintessential creationist argument right there. Makes me want to bash my head against a wall every single time.

[MissVampireDiaries]

Perfect answer, thank you

[crazytastie]

take a look at ARDI. google it, hard evidence we didnt come from monkeys in any way. so suck one scientists and everybody thtat thought we did lol

[TheBlindWatch]

ARDI does not disprove that humans are descendants of apes.

What's changed because of 4.4 million year old Ardi's discovery is that the theoretical hominid's characteristics are likely to be less like chimpanzees than previously believed.

[clwilliams222]

@TheBlindWatch people who are ignorant to reason wont ever read the full evidence they'll just pick out bits and pieces and use it towards a false argument. this 'crazietastie' is implying by his/her post that he/she is better or smarter than the scientists of evolution simply because he/she knows how to misread and article.

[kungfufreak360]

Isnt this common sense...?

[masked0crusader]

VERY good question, and VERY good answer. I like this Dawkins guy.

[patparks1]

Yes, I agree, it is a good question; yet, I strongly disagree that the answer is a good one. First, Dawkins gives an Ad Hoc answer without any empirical/scientific evidence to butress such claims. Second, again, if we (and the chimps) both stem from a 'common anscester' then why haven't the chimps EVOLVED?! Chimps have always been chimps, no? Do we have any record of them progressing in any sort? Hence, Dawkins never answered the question...and I'm not surprised.

[BeigeNinja]

He did say that chimps evolved. Man on one track and chimps on another. Chimps have not always been chimps. They stemmed from a common ancestor. We have many pieces of evidence to support this. Watch it again.

[brucesan]

Of course he answered the question, he gave a perfect answer. Chimps have NOT always been chimps. Chimps have EVOLVED from an ancient ancestor that we share with them. This ancestor was NOT a chimp. It may well have looked to us more like a chimp than a human, but it was still not a chimp. A chimp is a MODERN animal. The common ancestor that it shares with humans is not a modern animal. Both chimpanzees and humans have done plenty of evolving since then.

[Freenetnow]

@brucesan So chimps AND us evolved from an ancestor that we don't really know exactly? I mean be honest - that's what you are saying.

Evolution requires a whole lot of faith too. Because you can't see everything either.

[Raptor302]

@Freenetnow We do know of the extinct hominids that were either in our direct lineage or closely related to our lineage, including australopithicus. While the specific order of lineages and who belongs in which family or extended family is being debated among scientists, there is no doubt that we have found our ancestoral forms. No evolution doesn't require faith, you can even observe it happening in ring species or observed instances of speciation.

[sstruyf89]

@patparks1 you are wrong.. chimps have not always been chimps they came after that ancestor died out...and evolved in a different way from that ancestor that we did! we also havent evolved from say a couple thousand years ago...we still have same DNA etc.

[clwilliams222]

@patparks1 apparently some people hear only what they want to hear...he just said the chimps we know today are much different than the chimps that evolved from the common ancestor. do you think the way we humans look now is the way that we have always looked? (well if you're religious, then you probably do) humans and chimps evolved from an ancestor that may have been similar to a chimp. he gave a perfect answer