One problem is that the fans come on slow and by the time they are at full rpm the heat is already there. (Watch your own video) This can be fixed by an app called( SMCfancontrol). You can set you fans at max rpm before you start your heavy load. Works for me. Also the gpu and cpu are on the same heat sync. The heat has to pass through one or the other during use. I'm not sure what Apple was thinking when they did that. There is no easy fix for that.
@shaynesabala Yeah I used SMC when I had this Macbook Pro. It would keep it cooler for longer but it wouldn't stop it reaching those temperatures eventually, it would just delay it. But as I've painfully learnt (after downgrading of course), this heat is apparently not a problem at all. They've been getting hotter than this in previous versions. I have a HP from 2007 that hits 112 degrees and doesn't complain. I wish I still had this one now. Dedicated graphics is a must!
@jpcwa74 Nah I think that's just my iPod, the game ran amazingly. I really miss the power that this thing had (I returned it), but I'm glad I don't have to deal with the heat anymore, or worry it won't last long before something fails.
@Freshbott2 I dunno if heat would have been an issue down the road in the first place, but going by experience I wouldn't disagree with you. I have a 2005 iMac G5 and it constantly reaches temperatures higher than what you've had here. The result? After 3 years the entire motherboard had to be replaced because the GPU fried. Now (3 years more) the GPU is showing signs of dying again.
I'm replacing this iMac with a 2.2Ghz 15" Macbook pro ; )
@theanimaster That's exactly right the GPU is always the concern. I've since downgraded to the baseline Macbook Pro, which reaches high temperatures more easily than the one in this video, but I don't worry about it because the Core i series CPUs have far higher heat tolerances than GPUs, so with this one it's not really a concern with no dedicated chip. Macbook Pro CPUs have been running hot since the dinosaurs. But I might buy AppleCare later on just in case :0 Hope you enjoy it
I returned mine a couple weeks ago mine was between 90C and 95C many people says that the computer can take that kind of heat, but let´s be honest just having a few things running this kind of heat is unacceptable in the end your computer is going to die, so I decided to take it back to the store and get my money back, by the way I regret selling my 2010 model to get the newer one, shit! :(
3 things you can do. Not play games on laptop. Or if you do, enable vsync, that will cap fps @ 60 and save some workload. And try finding some clocking tool to underclock the amd gpu and therefore reduce heat generation (among with performance).
@JanBirsa I've searched all over for a desirable solution. The GPU isn't what I want to underclock, the AMD is actually heated by the CPU as they both use the same heat sink. If I could underclock the CPU that'd be great. Overall, it's just a lack of airflow internally.
@Freshbott2 I did ton of research today, the only solution is to send it back and wait for 2012 mbp. Its failed engineering and cannot be solved software wise.
@JanBirsaYeah.Yeah it's going back very soon. You can't throw higher performance components into the same case every six months, the Macbook Pro's have gotten worse over time. It needs an entire rethink.
@JanBirsa Wait for the 2012 model, Apple won't change anything, these things have had heat issues since the first Macbook pro. My friends 2010 model runs even hotter.
@Freshbott2 I can't confirm about other laptop because my other laptops are old. Gaming needs alot of computer resources, heating up it is a YES. Is it burning ur hands when u touch it? one more thing, it is better to play game in windows (bootcamp), it is cooler compare to mac gaming.
@fnswcy Yeah trying to do bootcamp, but my MBP rejects blank DVD's which I need to put the ISO on for WIndows 7. Mac fan firmware is stupid, the fans run at idle speeds up until about 75C, then they kick up to max all of a sudden. It sounds like a vacuum cleaner, but it keeps on climbing to nearly 90C. It feels very hot to touch near the screen on the left side. My friend's 2010 iMac gets even hotter to touch, but there hasn't been any problems with it, that's why I don't know what to do.
@fnswcy Yeah trying to do bootcamp, but my MBP rejects blank DVD's which I need to put the ISO on for WIndows 7. Mac fan firmware is stupid, the fans run at idle speeds up until about 75C, then they kick up to max all of a sudden. It sounds like a vacuum cleaner, but it keeps on climbing to nearly 90C. It feels very hot to touch near the screen on the left side. My friend's 2010 iMac gets even hotter to touch, but there hasn't been any problems with it, that's why I don't know what to do.
@Freshbott2 I did run the game warcraft 3, sorry it is quite an old game( i have mac n windows version), under windows(bootcamp) seems perform better than mac. on Mac about 80C+, windows 60C+ . the apple stuff suggested me to bring my mbp to the technical support for checking. I m wondering now, change for a new macbook pro? this needs me to wait for a week.
@fnswcy Yeah Windows tends to ramp up the fans sooner than OSX, but either way, when the temperatures get higher, you're having to choose between component life and unnecessary fan wear. If you wear out your fans to the point where they break (which isn't hard to do), then it could be the end of your CPU in a very short time. The sales reps kept insisting that I get a replacement, but I've done my research and you have to be firm with them. I'm getting a full refund, I'll see what comes in June.
@Freshbott2 I tried modern warfare 2 through windows bootcamp. Although the computer is hot, but the fan is working and the temperature is under 75C. I think it is quite acceptable while you are running a gaming. I made a call to the apple technical support and that said that the i7 may have a higher temperature. On this point it consider normal with my macbook pro.
@fnswcy I asked them, one technician said he'd find out what the ratings are, and never rang back. The next one I asked said they don't have that information. I used SMCFancontrol to keep the temperature down, but 6200RPM (which it would sometimes hit withoutSMC) would wear it out. The next assistant told me my 14 day return period had expired, and it'd been only 8 days. Anyway I was able to return it, I've found that the sales assistants have access to far more customer and spec informaton.
@lunafringe10 It most likely would lifewise in the long run. It doesn't affect the performance, however it would in a more intensive game because TurboBoost disables when it reaches 80C.
One problem is that the fans come on slow and by the time they are at full rpm the heat is already there. (Watch your own video) This can be fixed by an app called( SMCfancontrol). You can set you fans at max rpm before you start your heavy load. Works for me. Also the gpu and cpu are on the same heat sync. The heat has to pass through one or the other during use. I'm not sure what Apple was thinking when they did that. There is no easy fix for that.
shaynesabala 4 months ago
@shaynesabala Yeah I used SMC when I had this Macbook Pro. It would keep it cooler for longer but it wouldn't stop it reaching those temperatures eventually, it would just delay it. But as I've painfully learnt (after downgrading of course), this heat is apparently not a problem at all. They've been getting hotter than this in previous versions. I have a HP from 2007 that hits 112 degrees and doesn't complain. I wish I still had this one now. Dedicated graphics is a must!
Freshbott2 4 months ago
Notice how his game stutters, stalls, pauses, etc. ? That's an obvious symptom of computers gpu and/or cpu that is overheating.
jpcwa74 8 months ago
@jpcwa74 Nah I think that's just my iPod, the game ran amazingly. I really miss the power that this thing had (I returned it), but I'm glad I don't have to deal with the heat anymore, or worry it won't last long before something fails.
Freshbott2 8 months ago
@Freshbott2 I dunno if heat would have been an issue down the road in the first place, but going by experience I wouldn't disagree with you. I have a 2005 iMac G5 and it constantly reaches temperatures higher than what you've had here. The result? After 3 years the entire motherboard had to be replaced because the GPU fried. Now (3 years more) the GPU is showing signs of dying again.
I'm replacing this iMac with a 2.2Ghz 15" Macbook pro ; )
theanimaster 7 months ago
@theanimaster That's exactly right the GPU is always the concern. I've since downgraded to the baseline Macbook Pro, which reaches high temperatures more easily than the one in this video, but I don't worry about it because the Core i series CPUs have far higher heat tolerances than GPUs, so with this one it's not really a concern with no dedicated chip. Macbook Pro CPUs have been running hot since the dinosaurs. But I might buy AppleCare later on just in case :0 Hope you enjoy it
Freshbott2 7 months ago
You paid $1300+ dollars for a brand new computer that has heat problems that will never be fixed? WOW!!!!!!! You got ripped off man.
jpcwa74 8 months ago
@jpcwa74 $1300? Try $2700. It's a'ight though, I refunded it.
Freshbott2 7 months ago
can u add me on fb? =D x
skyrider007 8 months ago
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I returned mine a couple weeks ago mine was between 90C and 95C many people says that the computer can take that kind of heat, but let´s be honest just having a few things running this kind of heat is unacceptable in the end your computer is going to die, so I decided to take it back to the store and get my money back, by the way I regret selling my 2010 model to get the newer one, shit! :(
gerardobe100 10 months ago
you look cute
skyrider007 10 months ago
@skyrider007 Thanks!
Freshbott2 10 months ago
3 things you can do. Not play games on laptop. Or if you do, enable vsync, that will cap fps @ 60 and save some workload. And try finding some clocking tool to underclock the amd gpu and therefore reduce heat generation (among with performance).
JanBirsa 10 months ago
@JanBirsa I've searched all over for a desirable solution. The GPU isn't what I want to underclock, the AMD is actually heated by the CPU as they both use the same heat sink. If I could underclock the CPU that'd be great. Overall, it's just a lack of airflow internally.
So my solution is to send it back.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
@Freshbott2 I did ton of research today, the only solution is to send it back and wait for 2012 mbp. Its failed engineering and cannot be solved software wise.
JanBirsa 10 months ago
@JanBirsaYeah.Yeah it's going back very soon. You can't throw higher performance components into the same case every six months, the Macbook Pro's have gotten worse over time. It needs an entire rethink.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
@JanBirsa Wait for the 2012 model, Apple won't change anything, these things have had heat issues since the first Macbook pro. My friends 2010 model runs even hotter.
ATLMember 9 months ago
@ATLMember Heat will always be a problem... This is from the 1ste to latest edition... You guys make me paranoid about my mac's heat.... FUCK YOU! ^^
tworoelio 9 months ago
@JanBirsa That's just bullshit... Macbook's always had a heat issue.... This will not be fixed in the futher... It's just how it is...
tworoelio 9 months ago
I think it is normal temperature when u are playing game?
fnswcy 10 months ago
@fnswcy Do other laptops hit these temperatures?
Freshbott2 10 months ago
@Freshbott2 I can't confirm about other laptop because my other laptops are old. Gaming needs alot of computer resources, heating up it is a YES. Is it burning ur hands when u touch it? one more thing, it is better to play game in windows (bootcamp), it is cooler compare to mac gaming.
fnswcy 10 months ago
@fnswcy Yeah trying to do bootcamp, but my MBP rejects blank DVD's which I need to put the ISO on for WIndows 7. Mac fan firmware is stupid, the fans run at idle speeds up until about 75C, then they kick up to max all of a sudden. It sounds like a vacuum cleaner, but it keeps on climbing to nearly 90C. It feels very hot to touch near the screen on the left side. My friend's 2010 iMac gets even hotter to touch, but there hasn't been any problems with it, that's why I don't know what to do.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
@fnswcy Yeah trying to do bootcamp, but my MBP rejects blank DVD's which I need to put the ISO on for WIndows 7. Mac fan firmware is stupid, the fans run at idle speeds up until about 75C, then they kick up to max all of a sudden. It sounds like a vacuum cleaner, but it keeps on climbing to nearly 90C. It feels very hot to touch near the screen on the left side. My friend's 2010 iMac gets even hotter to touch, but there hasn't been any problems with it, that's why I don't know what to do.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
@Freshbott2 I did run the game warcraft 3, sorry it is quite an old game( i have mac n windows version), under windows(bootcamp) seems perform better than mac. on Mac about 80C+, windows 60C+ . the apple stuff suggested me to bring my mbp to the technical support for checking. I m wondering now, change for a new macbook pro? this needs me to wait for a week.
fnswcy 10 months ago
@fnswcy Yeah Windows tends to ramp up the fans sooner than OSX, but either way, when the temperatures get higher, you're having to choose between component life and unnecessary fan wear. If you wear out your fans to the point where they break (which isn't hard to do), then it could be the end of your CPU in a very short time. The sales reps kept insisting that I get a replacement, but I've done my research and you have to be firm with them. I'm getting a full refund, I'll see what comes in June.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
@Freshbott2 I tried modern warfare 2 through windows bootcamp. Although the computer is hot, but the fan is working and the temperature is under 75C. I think it is quite acceptable while you are running a gaming. I made a call to the apple technical support and that said that the i7 may have a higher temperature. On this point it consider normal with my macbook pro.
fnswcy 10 months ago
@fnswcy I asked them, one technician said he'd find out what the ratings are, and never rang back. The next one I asked said they don't have that information. I used SMCFancontrol to keep the temperature down, but 6200RPM (which it would sometimes hit withoutSMC) would wear it out. The next assistant told me my 14 day return period had expired, and it'd been only 8 days. Anyway I was able to return it, I've found that the sales assistants have access to far more customer and spec informaton.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
MINE IS GOING BACK TO APPLE, IT BURNT MY KNEE WITH A CRAPPY APP APPLICATION ABOUT THE SOLAR SYSTEM, A CRAPPY VIDEO
THOR2029 10 months ago
@THOR2029 It wasn't meant to be a high quality video, I filmed it on my iPod to show my friends. But yeah mine's going back to Apple too.
Freshbott2 10 months ago
but is the heat affecting it negatively?
lunafringe10 10 months ago
@lunafringe10 It most likely would lifewise in the long run. It doesn't affect the performance, however it would in a more intensive game because TurboBoost disables when it reaches 80C.
Freshbott2 10 months ago