David I have been thinking about different way to set this up.I seen a canvas tent set up with the poles on the out side like a cowboy range tent.I have look at buying a range tent But LORD are they expensive and the weight of those.gees.How could i set a poly tarp up were the Poles are on the out side
@mogges1 My mind has been going since I read this.. and I think you can set up the teepee in this fashion. What you would need to do is tie the top end together and fold it over.. then ti it to the poles. Then simply hook the grommets on the bottom to the outside poles. Might sag a bit in larger models.. but I think it's conceivable.
I'm starting see that a tarp is the most versatile survival gear one can have.Now I'm looking at canvas the thing I'm woundering about on canvas is the weight of one.i'm thinking about a 6 foot by 8 foot. canvas tarp. that would I think be enough room for at leat 2 people and maybe build a fire in side.
I had this exact idea yesterday, before seeing any videos on it, then found this morning! My idea was a little different, more of a triangle-base pyramid. Have you tried that? Seems like it would work well with a 10X20 tarp
You have good ideas! Cut it rounded is the way I do it.. but I suppose that you could cut it on angles between 6 points.. I think it would work. Try it and let us know!
You are so right Dave, about the snap clips. Also, I just used your plans on a back pack trip into the forrest and my tee pee was the bomb. Can even have a small fire inside. Thanks for sharing.
Of those which I have seen, this is the most practical and usable teepee video, . . .
However, using pi x diameter = circumference (62' 9" half a tarp, flat) divided by 2 = actual available teepee cir (31' 4"); and, actual cir divided by pi = diameter (10'); and "c"squared (width of the tarp) minus "a" square (the floor radius of 5') = "b" squared, or ground center-line to the peak, (100 - 25 = 75, then sqrt of 75, and the teepee is about 8' and 8" high—and, for many situations, a good size
@phillipgaley And which, looks like it makes sense too, inthat, if you stand the 10' tarp width, up vertical at a stake-down point, and moving the tarp top inward to the teepee apex or over the floor center, it looks like in diagonal placement, then, you'll lose a little over a foot of height, . . .
More videos with your suggestions for an outdoor shower, privy, beds, picnic table, food storage, or anything else that might be useful for a semi-permanent campsite for homeless people would be appreciated. Your demonstrations are some of the best I have seen on YouTube. I have gotten other ideas from other videos, but you may have better designs.
Hi David, Thank you for the kind reply. I have asked my friends to look for a 4 meter x 8 meter polyester tarp. I have suggested they cut 12 poles that are 5 meters long. That would allow them to build a shelter that has a circular floor 4 meters in diameter and with a 4 meter high ceiling. You can see YouTube videos of the disaster in January in Teresopolis. The early aid has vanished, and the government is leaving people without food or shelter 4 months later.
Thanks man, I'm going to give this a try. I'm going to use 8 poles. I'm having trouble finding 2x2x14's though. Lowes only has 2x4x14's so i'll prob just split 4 2x4s to make 8 2x2s. you think that'll work?
Thanks man, I'm going to give this a try. I'm going to use 8 poles. I'm having trouble finding 2x2x14's though. Lowes only has 2x4x14's so i'll prob just split 4 2x4s to make 8 2x2s. you think that'll work?
I'm not sure 3-5% is accurate.. but they are a bit smaller. For example.. my "10X10" is actually 9.75X9.75 (1.5" on each side for a hem). The difference in size doesn't make any difference.. except in the height of the poles. The floor size would change negligibly.. but it's not that critical. As ROn Hood says, "Close enough, good enough."
Hi David, I really enjoyed your video. My seven year old son and I want to build a tee pee that we can regularly use for camping with my wife and our 3 year old girl. I just had one question. Is there a way to securely seal the tee pee walls to a tarp floor? I've got to assure the girls that no critters are getting in. Thanks
The way that we do if we use a floor is to tie the florring on the upright poles (about 2" above ground level) BEFORE we put the walls on. I suppose you could do it after.. but it's a bit harder to work.
@paparedwood I don't know if you are still around you could buy another tarp,spread it around inside add clips for every pole or double the amount and go every pole and in between...just a thought
This is my 3rd attempt to tell everyone that a company named Kotap America Ltd. of Lawrence, N.Y. Sell a 10' x 20' blue or Silver & Green tarp. I hope this helps anyone who is looking for this size tarp
Why not take two 10' X 10' tarps and some 3/4" stock / furring strips and either sandwich or overlap the tarps and screw the wood together to make a 10' X 20' (Roughly) tarp? You'll know where the center is and if you fold the tarp in half before covering the framework it should aid you in the handling of the tarp.
David, Where did you find the 20'x10' tarp? I've checked Walmart, K-mart, Lowes, Home Depot, Harbor Freight, and Tractor Supply and none have 20x10 tarps nor any other with similar dimensional ratios. Any help will be appreciated.
Walmart no longer carries tarps of that size. Neither does Lowes, Home Depot, ACE Hardware or True Value. I've been looking for one ever since first seeing this so I can do a demo for Boy Scout troops that visit the park. I've even tried Gander Mountain, RV World and various marinas. No luck whatsoever. Anyone here have an source for these?
I check the Harbor Freight here in Lynchburg at least every other week. The one here and in Salem doesn't have them. I've asked them to get them and they workers there look at me as though I have a small dog wearing a top hat and a monocle glued to my forehead. I've pretty much given up on the tarp aspect of this project and have began to sew some canvas together and waterproof it with Camp Dry to get it done. Thanks anyway.
I just wanted to thank you. My daughter, who is 4 and I got enjoy a great day outside today. We rigged up a teepee in a little under a hour. It was great to see her smile and play in it. Thanks for the great idea.
BTW cost for all materials brand new were $43 which is a pretty cheap
Of course you don't need artificaial materials to make a teepee.. But because of the weight.. some people carry tarps. And some people like teepees. It's a nice combination at times..
If you watch again with your questions in mind I think the video will answer them. You don't need to cut.. just fold Snap clips can be found online but I don't have a direct link.
The teepee is very easy.. some make it hard because they think a teepee has to be hard. Scribe the semicircle, Put clips on the scribed line, raise the center point and stake the clips. That's all there is to it!
Hey I'm glad I finally found a vid on this. I do have a few questions. Is there any way you could make a more detailed instructional or direct me to one? Do you CUT the tarp into a semi-circle or just fold it under? And where would I find the snap clips? I apologize for 3rd degree, I just want to completely understand the workings before starting. I'm sure you get where I'm coming from. Thanks
hey man I agree with what you are saying and I understand what you are saying. The videos do not give you much detail as to WHAT he ACTUALLY doing but instead of him talking. I would like to see this again with a stand off veiw to see what he is actually doing...
David I have been thinking about different way to set this up.I seen a canvas tent set up with the poles on the out side like a cowboy range tent.I have look at buying a range tent But LORD are they expensive and the weight of those.gees.How could i set a poly tarp up were the Poles are on the out side
mogges1 1 week ago
@mogges1 My mind has been going since I read this.. and I think you can set up the teepee in this fashion. What you would need to do is tie the top end together and fold it over.. then ti it to the poles. Then simply hook the grommets on the bottom to the outside poles. Might sag a bit in larger models.. but I think it's conceivable.
BushcraftOnFire 1 week ago
I'm starting see that a tarp is the most versatile survival gear one can have.Now I'm looking at canvas the thing I'm woundering about on canvas is the weight of one.i'm thinking about a 6 foot by 8 foot. canvas tarp. that would I think be enough room for at leat 2 people and maybe build a fire in side.
mogges1 1 month ago
I had this exact idea yesterday, before seeing any videos on it, then found this morning! My idea was a little different, more of a triangle-base pyramid. Have you tried that? Seems like it would work well with a 10X20 tarp
dabrownone 1 month ago
@dabrownone
You have good ideas! Cut it rounded is the way I do it.. but I suppose that you could cut it on angles between 6 points.. I think it would work. Try it and let us know!
BushcraftOnFire 1 month ago
Harbor Freight sales a 15 ft. 2'' x 19 ft. 6'' Reflective Heavy Duty Silver Tarp for $40. Thought about getting one of these and just cutting it.
TheGrayman1234 3 months ago
@TheGrayman1234
That will definitely work!
BushcraftOnFire 3 months ago
You are so right Dave, about the snap clips. Also, I just used your plans on a back pack trip into the forrest and my tee pee was the bomb. Can even have a small fire inside. Thanks for sharing.
kyletango 3 months ago
@kyletango Google Byers' Hurricane Snaps these are the only type of "Snap clips" that I could find but they look just like what he had in the video.
TheGrayman1234 3 months ago
Of those which I have seen, this is the most practical and usable teepee video, . . .
However, using pi x diameter = circumference (62' 9" half a tarp, flat) divided by 2 = actual available teepee cir (31' 4"); and, actual cir divided by pi = diameter (10'); and "c"squared (width of the tarp) minus "a" square (the floor radius of 5') = "b" squared, or ground center-line to the peak, (100 - 25 = 75, then sqrt of 75, and the teepee is about 8' and 8" high—and, for many situations, a good size
phillipgaley 4 months ago
@phillipgaley And which, looks like it makes sense too, inthat, if you stand the 10' tarp width, up vertical at a stake-down point, and moving the tarp top inward to the teepee apex or over the floor center, it looks like in diagonal placement, then, you'll lose a little over a foot of height, . . .
phillipgaley 4 months ago
More videos with your suggestions for an outdoor shower, privy, beds, picnic table, food storage, or anything else that might be useful for a semi-permanent campsite for homeless people would be appreciated. Your demonstrations are some of the best I have seen on YouTube. I have gotten other ideas from other videos, but you may have better designs.
genetrumbo 9 months ago
Hi David, Thank you for the kind reply. I have asked my friends to look for a 4 meter x 8 meter polyester tarp. I have suggested they cut 12 poles that are 5 meters long. That would allow them to build a shelter that has a circular floor 4 meters in diameter and with a 4 meter high ceiling. You can see YouTube videos of the disaster in January in Teresopolis. The early aid has vanished, and the government is leaving people without food or shelter 4 months later.
genetrumbo 9 months ago
well somebody please choke that chicken..........
lanesteele240 11 months ago
So how many tarp clips total do you need?
taylormorris1993 1 year ago
@taylormorris1993
You would need the same amount as you have poles. One for each point. You could, of course, Add more in between if you like.
BushcraftOnFire 1 year ago
@BushcraftOnFire
Thanks man, I'm going to give this a try. I'm going to use 8 poles. I'm having trouble finding 2x2x14's though. Lowes only has 2x4x14's so i'll prob just split 4 2x4s to make 8 2x2s. you think that'll work?
taylormorris1993 1 year ago
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@BushcraftOnFire
Thanks man, I'm going to give this a try. I'm going to use 8 poles. I'm having trouble finding 2x2x14's though. Lowes only has 2x4x14's so i'll prob just split 4 2x4s to make 8 2x2s. you think that'll work?
taylormorris1993 1 year ago
@BushcraftOnFire
Could you use 2x2x12 or would that be too short?
taylormorris1993 1 year ago
@taylormorris1993
That would be just about perfect.. and is what we generally use for a 10X20 tarp. It gives you about 1 foot outside the top all around. HTH
BushcraftOnFire 1 year ago
David, most tarps are 3 to 5% smaller than there stated size. Does this make a difference when your measuring?
kyletango 1 year ago
@kyletango
I'm not sure 3-5% is accurate.. but they are a bit smaller. For example.. my "10X10" is actually 9.75X9.75 (1.5" on each side for a hem). The difference in size doesn't make any difference.. except in the height of the poles. The floor size would change negligibly.. but it's not that critical. As ROn Hood says, "Close enough, good enough."
BushcraftOnFire 1 year ago
Could you build a fire inside if you wanted to. I am thinking of trying this in the winter, and I want to know if it is safe to have a fire inside?
shtmtl69 1 year ago
@shtmtl69
We had a SMALL fire in the center of ours.. but we had to keep the front flap open a bit for airflow...
BushcraftOnFire 1 year ago
Hi David, I really enjoyed your video. My seven year old son and I want to build a tee pee that we can regularly use for camping with my wife and our 3 year old girl. I just had one question. Is there a way to securely seal the tee pee walls to a tarp floor? I've got to assure the girls that no critters are getting in. Thanks
paparedwood 1 year ago
@paparedwood
The way that we do if we use a floor is to tie the florring on the upright poles (about 2" above ground level) BEFORE we put the walls on. I suppose you could do it after.. but it's a bit harder to work.
HTH..
BushcraftOnFire 1 year ago
@paparedwood I don't know if you are still around you could buy another tarp,spread it around inside add clips for every pole or double the amount and go every pole and in between...just a thought
kobrabushcrafter 3 months ago
Hello Everyone,
This is my 3rd attempt to tell everyone that a company named Kotap America Ltd. of Lawrence, N.Y. Sell a 10' x 20' blue or Silver & Green tarp. I hope this helps anyone who is looking for this size tarp
eielson1978 2 years ago
Why not take two 10' X 10' tarps and some 3/4" stock / furring strips and either sandwich or overlap the tarps and screw the wood together to make a 10' X 20' (Roughly) tarp? You'll know where the center is and if you fold the tarp in half before covering the framework it should aid you in the handling of the tarp.
Have a Great Day and Happy Holidays
eielson1978 2 years ago
That's not a bad idea Eielson..
Perhaps I will try that at a future date :)
BushcraftOnFire 2 years ago
That...sounds...BRILLIANT!! Just goes to prove that no obstacle can't be overcome once we set our minds to it! Thumbs WAAAY up for that one!
otakop67 2 years ago
try tractor supply.
12fitzgerald 2 years ago
I did. Nothing with compatible measurements.
otakop67 2 years ago
I tried at HomeOne here in Perth, no such beast here either.
hoopajoo 2 years ago 4
David, Where did you find the 20'x10' tarp? I've checked Walmart, K-mart, Lowes, Home Depot, Harbor Freight, and Tractor Supply and none have 20x10 tarps nor any other with similar dimensional ratios. Any help will be appreciated.
otakop67 2 years ago 6
I got mine at Walmart
BushcraftOnFire 2 years ago
Walmart no longer carries tarps of that size. Neither does Lowes, Home Depot, ACE Hardware or True Value. I've been looking for one ever since first seeing this so I can do a demo for Boy Scout troops that visit the park. I've even tried Gander Mountain, RV World and various marinas. No luck whatsoever. Anyone here have an source for these?
RangerMike12 2 years ago 9
@RangerMike12 just go on google and type in 20x10 tarp and you should find what you're looking for.
mrHernandezify 1 year ago
Harbor Freight has them. We have an outlet store close to us and I saw one there.
grizphoto 2 years ago
I check the Harbor Freight here in Lynchburg at least every other week. The one here and in Salem doesn't have them. I've asked them to get them and they workers there look at me as though I have a small dog wearing a top hat and a monocle glued to my forehead. I've pretty much given up on the tarp aspect of this project and have began to sew some canvas together and waterproof it with Camp Dry to get it done. Thanks anyway.
otakop67 2 years ago
I just wanted to thank you. My daughter, who is 4 and I got enjoy a great day outside today. We rigged up a teepee in a little under a hour. It was great to see her smile and play in it. Thanks for the great idea.
BTW cost for all materials brand new were $43 which is a pretty cheap
jameasun 2 years ago 2
James..
It's awesome that you and your lil girl enjoyed the bush together.. We need to pass the knowledge to our youth.. lest it be forgotten.. Great work!!
BushcraftOnFire 2 years ago
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A real man doesn't need artificial materials to make a teepee. Lame.
I'm a girl and even I don't need that shit to make one.
IWearTheCrown100 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment WeartheCrown
Of course you don't need artificaial materials to make a teepee.. But because of the weight.. some people carry tarps. And some people like teepees. It's a nice combination at times..
BushcraftOnFire 2 years ago
Thanks for the great vid! Very informative and helpful. Keep them coming!!
cleverpun207 2 years ago
I've never had any trouble with the croc clips.
myrdulf 2 years ago
very cool vid. the more i watch the more i like
The13thRelic 2 years ago
Caveman..
If you watch again with your questions in mind I think the video will answer them. You don't need to cut.. just fold Snap clips can be found online but I don't have a direct link.
The teepee is very easy.. some make it hard because they think a teepee has to be hard. Scribe the semicircle, Put clips on the scribed line, raise the center point and stake the clips. That's all there is to it!
Hope that Helps
BushcraftOnFire 2 years ago
Hey I'm glad I finally found a vid on this. I do have a few questions. Is there any way you could make a more detailed instructional or direct me to one? Do you CUT the tarp into a semi-circle or just fold it under? And where would I find the snap clips? I apologize for 3rd degree, I just want to completely understand the workings before starting. I'm sure you get where I'm coming from. Thanks
Caveman0713 2 years ago 2
hey man I agree with what you are saying and I understand what you are saying. The videos do not give you much detail as to WHAT he ACTUALLY doing but instead of him talking. I would like to see this again with a stand off veiw to see what he is actually doing...
johnboyrebel27 2 years ago