As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17.The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity.Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability.JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability.Above all JF-17 is fully operational fighter where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests.LCA has inducted for face saving of india but IAF has admitted that it could be a good trainer but not a good fighter one due to its v.limited capabilities.
@shitonpak put condom on banana at it work better than your indian dick, mother fucker keep burning . put it face to face with jf 17 ... oops my bad tejas can't fly, it not operational. damn you indian make me laugh despite getting all weapon from russia you still cll them your example brahmos x-russian anti ship missile.
atleast our JF-17 is operational not like your tejas which is still in its test phase u endians should stop bragging and should make something that is operational ur missiles are also under development nd are still not delivered to ur army ur only operational missile is agni with a range of 200 km.so stop dreaming and make something that works or else just shut ur mouths
According to an IAF source associated,Tejas has inducted but it is still not be the fighter the air force had agreed to accept for limited squadron service.Now in IAF there is a divide on LCA. Some want to turn the LCA into a advanced jet trainer due to its failure as multirole fighter, others are still convinced that it could be a success.
Other the other hand the PAF’s JF-17 is a success in designing and developing a light fighter aircraft in such short time in collaboration with China.
India has become such a country, whose every indigenous project ended in failure with the waste of thousands of failed hours. Now india has inducted LCA in IAF in hurry even with its limited capability and defects just to save its FACE.
IAF has decide to induct 20 LCAs by 2017 with limited capability even lower then MiG21. India is repeating the same story of arjun and Murat
GAY HIND!!!! GAY HIND!!!! BHANGEE INDIAN COW PISS DRINKERS RATS YOUR LCA IS A CHILD'S TOY INFRONT OF JF-17. WE WILL BEAT YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN LIKE WE DID BEFORE.
In My opinion JF-17 is more or less a good fighter and probably much batter then LCA but it is not as good as F-16Block 52+ or J-10B (FC-20).JF-17 has same TWR as F-16 and MiG-29, in point defence mission it can be a difficult opponent. it has a higher instantaneous turn rate then LCA (31-29deg/s). In dogfight we have seen delta wings aircraft have some advantage but LCA has lost those advantage due to lack of required thrust from it current American engine.
LCA is a good aircraft & its good points are small signature visual.Can LCA beat a JF-17? That’s a million dollars question & can be answered only after their face to face competition in a dog fight.
In my opinion so far with current statistics LCA can’t beat JF17 unless it has superior roll rates allowing it to change direction quicker.
But sustaining a turn against the F-7PG,JF-17,F-16 or J-10 I think it will be a mistake specially if it use the current American Engine with very low thrust.
Although the LAC has been inducted with numbers of major defects as fighter aircraft but True Rome was not built in a day but that was rome. This rome (LCA ) the white elephant, the way its being going on for past 30 years, seems will not be get fully operational capability in next 5 years.
But IAF can use this failed experience in future & can use this LCA as advance jet trainer or may be become beauty of museum or some public square to remind their 30 years of nonstop effort.
JF-17 is a product of CHINA not Pakistan just like the Al Khalid. So if I was a Paki I wouldnt be showing off...because if China stops supplying arms to Pakistan you be fukked. While India, eventhough has failed many time on their fighter planes, missiles and tanks, will have the knowledge and capabilities to manufacture their own weapons.
@khmerog1 n what has made by india? all fighter jets are combined projects with russia all submarines are joint projects. name one single fighter jet engine made by india?
@shnawer hey i agree with you. India got foreign help and support and used foreign equipments on most or even all their aircrafts. I'm just letting the people who thinks that JF-17 was all Pakistan know that it is mostly China who built it with Pakistan input.
jf 17 is nothing, but a crap in today's world, thing is that, it can fight, and is cheap. this is the only way for paf to counter India's rapid military modernisation, by number.
@TheWarriorsMr those JF-17s ll be awesome for target practice once our jointly developed PAK FA's arrive ... until then they ll still be used for target practice by the indian Sukhoi Mkis ! eat ur words faggot !
@TheWarriorsMr i cant believe u jus said the indian airforce still has to see success in the areas of missiles ! u freakin douche bag ! ever heard of the super cruise nuclear capable missile BRAHMOS ? it is capable of land to air, air to air and sea to air missions ! does ur PAF or china ve something even close related to this ? research well before u open ur mouth n bring out cold hard facts instead of jumping round celebrating bout ur dumb JF-17 !
LCA is a learning experience for IAF & an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations & Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
On the other hand JF-17 is tested,multirole,very handy,more maneuverable and v.decent aircraft it its price.
@qwertyui66771 fuck u v play wid java n python since our intermidiate classes.talk about graduation den im frm mechanical stream still i can design surfaces thru matlab
I think the JF-17 is relatively batter then LCA, JF-17 have decent agility, its LERXes give excellent lift & its wing descent sustained turn rate.
LCA have a better lower wing loading since it has a relatively huge wing,but its wing probably loses more lift at turns since it is a delta & with the current engine which is not providing the full thrust it's even not comparable with existing MiG21.Experts said that a new & bigger engine is required which may cause a complete redesigning of LCA.
The JF-17 is much better than the MiG-21 for sure, it is a Mirage 2000-F-16A type, now they are improving it, but certainly is a match for aircraft like the F-16, MiG29, Mirage 2000 or SU30 but you can not expect it to be good in everything.
On the other hand IAF and Indian media is saying the current capabilities of inducted LCA are even lower then MiG21bison and we are debugging it. If it is lower then the current MiG21s then how we could compare it with JF-17.
shut up basturds.......ol Indians know that JF-17 is not pakistani made........its just have some final touch ups in pakistan......like paint, etc......while LCA Tejas is absolutely Indian made.......
i'd rather be in the fight than fly over it anyway... LCA is a work in progress. the JF is a chinese rip off... and the chinese ripped off the Russians.
so, saying the JF works is not that great since it isn't something the pakis came up with.
HAHAHAAHHAHAh enjoying a second hand handout FAILED STATE??? 250 JF17s by 2025?? think youll be stable till 2025? HAHAHA, this video misses the broader point, WE HAVE SU 30 MKIs, AND MMRCAs which are better that any plane you field :D while we build the infrastructure to make better planes at home, GO BEG ABROAD! HAHAHA
lol just to let the indian cunts and dum ass people know that what does Paki mean
The word "paki" goes back to the 1950s when Asian immigrants were arriving in the UK for the first time and many found themselves unwelcome and the target for racist abuse and attacks. The word was used to describe anyone from that part of the world even though it was often applied to Indians,Sri Lankans,Bangladeshis, etc, none of whom had anything to do with Pakistan at all obviously.
LCA is a learning experience for IAF,and an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations and Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
On the other hand JF-17 is very handy, more maneuverable and decent aircraft it its price.
@Howard0Hughes As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
@Howard0Hughes As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
Hi, all Indians over here pls dont worry abt this shitty comparison. Pakistan shall spending billions of dollars in buying Chineese crap and rot their economy. As resources are so misutilised poor pakis will disintegrate their own country to make a livelihhod. India today has a successful space program,Spy satellite,LCA,Stealth Helicopters etc all home made. All Pakis have got is Chineese Crap. They are crap eating pigs. Thats the reality
According to an IAF source associated with the long-delayed indigenous fighter program,Tejas has inducted but it is still not be the fighter the air force had agreed to accept for limited squadron service.Performance specifications that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has not been able to attain include sustained turn rate, speed at low altitude, angle of attack and certain weapon delivery profiles.Exactly how far off the performance is from the specification remains classified.
@dilipreddy97...Hey dothead, you epitomize how in denial, delusional and just plain ignorant you are with your comment on a "ultrasonic boom." What the hell does that have to do with the fact that the JF-17 is ALREADY in service and the LCA is a moneywasting JOKE! I understand that braindamage and grinding poverty are rampant in India, you need to start drinking CLEAN water! Indian dothead Hindi punkass faggots: DO NOT MESS WITH PAKISTAN! ALLAH-A-AKHBAR!!!!!
The JF-17 is in Pakistani Air Force service whereas the Indian LCA is still in the development stage. Until it finally reaches Indian squadrons, any comparison is useless. Looking good on paper doesn't count. After being in development for about 20 years and spending tons of money, the end product does not look too impressive. The LCA resembles a small French Mirage 2000 with a much lower payload. The JF-17 is affordable (about $15 million) and can perform the tasks it was designed for.
@pmoy61 DRDO chief VK Aatre had said about the LCA Tejas’ “We have developed a fighter aircraft in 30 years and it still have a long way to go”. Air Chief PV Naik’s gave critical remarks at the initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCA that "LCA is just a 3 or 3.5 generation aircraft when it was actually supposed to be developed as a fourth generation one and and it will be used in IAF with limited operational capability", exposes IAF’s dissatisfaction with LCA’s development.
@flanker35su LCA - Still long time from being fully operational induction. The famous LCA is cruising towards crossing the milestone of 200 flights but the IAF is worried about number of issues they facing for it operational capability. ”Going by the current progress, it will be a miracle if we are able to induct two squadrons of the fully-operational LCA by 2015. So far we have inducted a poor version (like 3Generation Trainer Aircraft) of LCA to satisfy our souls” says a senior IAF officer.
Pakistan got Independence 1 day before India and bloody it is 20 years behind India in development and technology and it is a bloody terrorist country!
You people better go and lick Osama Bin Laden's Dick.
Fuck off you bloody head-pecked up motherfucker Pakistanis. First of all you people depend upon China for all your aircrafts and now you say Pakistan wins? IAF is at the number 7 position in Air Force in the World and bloody PAF is at the 28th rank! You motherfuckers should learn making some fighter aircrafts. And also why is the Asian Aero Show not held in Pakistan? It is always held in India for its integrity and safety and also developing technology. Pakistan is bloody 2decades behind India.
u fucking paki lawde pehele chalna toh sikho,china ki gand chat chatke toh jf17 banaya nahi toh tumhari itni bhi aukad nahi thi......india se panga liya na toh tumhare sare jf 17 tumhare gand mein bhar denge.........fuck u chutad pakis......
soon j 10 will jion PAF then j-20 when the f35 or t5o will jion IAF o that s a big question inidan have to pay 5billion usd to develop T50 first or give more to american
The LCA was a flawed project in its early years however due to vast spending on Indians point of view, they couldn't afford to scrap it hence the reason the project is still crippling forward today. Nevertheless, the JF-17 is an infant compared to the LCA and I would say more successful in that the short time compared to the LCA it has achieved much more and we have seen more test flights of the JF-17 than the number of photos of the LCA
The success story of the JF-17 development stands out in sharp contrast to many aviation failures — the Israeli Lavi and the Indian Tejas being some examples of abject failures. The PAF is the only air force in the world to successfully take on the challenge of designing and developing a fighter aircraft. Failure is nothing new to the Indian defense establishment. Actually, the establishment has yet to show success either in missiles or in tanks. Of course it has had no success in planes.
@TheWarriorsMr The delayed LCA would be carrying only “limited weaponry”.As LCA strive for initial clearance,Indian & International experts have come up with strong complications that LCA's US aeroengine GE404 does not have requisite thrust to give power to carry full load of weaponry.LCA was aimed to be armed with variety of weapons.During the recent weaponisation, experts have found that LCA cannot carry its full load of armaments including crucial missiles & limited manoeuvrability.
@TheWarriorsMr paf didnt design the jf17 on its own!!.it was the chinese who made jf17!!! whereas the lca is a completely indegenous project!!! had the americans given us our wind tunnel results the lca would have come a lot before!!!!
@TheWarriorsMr what a joke china made this told Pakistan how too build it. Guess what the pak-fa makes the jf-17 a joke which is a joint of India and Russia. Then the jf17 is just a j10 jacked up in the first place. which is the Lavi finished guess what from the f16.
The Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project was sanctioned in 1982 with a budget of Rs 560 crore to develop a state-of-the-art fighter aircraft to replace IAF's MiG-21 fighters. Close to Rs 12,000 crore have since been spent but the aircraft, rechristened as Tejas, still remains under development. It is currently being tested with a substitute engine (F404-GE-IN20) and makeshift avionics package.But IAF is still not sure about it. Where as JF-17 has been inducted & fully in two squadrons.
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
LCA has some major problems as it seems now, the most important one being a lack of thrust, the testflights have only reached M1.2 and 4Gs, not exactly impressive for a multi-role fighter. The Indians don´t know which engine to fit in the LCA since their "indigenous" Kaveri-engine is years from working, if it will work at all. Jet-engine companies from both Russia and France have trying to fix it, but it seems to be at a dead end. Whereas JF-17 is fully operational fighter jet.
Areh Yar India and Pakistan are brothers. We have the same genes and dna yaar. same parents. why should we fight with pakistan. We consider pakistan as our west punjab and sindh and kashmir. We are all Indians yaar. Jai Hind!
LCA is underdevelopment from more than three decades & LCA has yet to reach production status.It continues to perform endless flight tests and most of these tests were also failed.Difficulties with its flight controls & power plant (kaveri engine) are still there and the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests.
Where as JF-17 has been inducted & fully in one squadron and perfumed well during high mark exercise and the most recent PAK-CHINA air force exercise.
well listen all you lundians if you strap your fuckin self on rocket and attack Pakistan then again nothing gonna happen coz you pee in yo pants after see a single Pakistani soldier fuckin your mother so LCA or No LCA you daal eaters slum living shits are bunch of bastards and the result of free fuck by a visitors so to fuck with you and your propaganda...now bark after my comment coz i know my comment burn your ass alot
@booloolood As for as LCA is a failed project. if we can benift from existing technologies why don’t try it we have the determination and muscle to persue any project not like shining rising whose every indigenous project ended in failure with the waste of thousands of failed hours. Now india wants to induct LCA as soon as possible in IAF even with its limited capability and defects just to save its FACE. IAF has decide to induct 20 LCAs by 2017 with limited capability &e ven lesser then MiG21.
we all r wasting our time the time will come and every1 will know the capability of each other wheather JF 17 is best or LCA is the best. but remember that it is the man behind the gun. soooo indians know better what i wana say............
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, JF - 17 (Junk Fighter Made in China)is going to die sooner, for it's 5 years older than LCA. Poor Porkis! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand that why these 2 fighters are being compared in first place. Neither of them has passed IOC from their countries; Yes JFT has yet to get IOC from PAF; the induction is being done for now only to fill the numbers and replace old timers like A-5 Fantans.
Unless and until both perform some sort of role like scouting, strikes or even dogfights, we cannot say who's better and who's worse. This sort of stupid comparison results in word wars. Give them time and it will show.
India's 25-year-old Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme, delayed by more than a decade, continues to be plagued by serious technical uncertainties and cost overruns, according to India's Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG).
A new CAG report states in 2010 that the LCA's development by the Aeronautical Development Agency, which is funded by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, is "beset with delays for almost every vital component of the aircraft".
@ImFlyingEagle CAG's been rapped by MOD already for the false alarm. Please check the latest. LCA is completing radar integration (Israeli-Indian hybrid one), has successfully cleared weapons integration and stress tests without a single crash--not even Migs and Sukhois have such a clean record. Has smallest signatures due to maximum composites to be ever used on a normal fighter in history.
It is coming in a few months into IAF while Mk.2 is already on track as IAF chief said.
The LCA was a flawed project in its early years however due to vast spending on Indians point of view,they couldn't afford to scrap it hence the reason the project is still crippling forward today.India is just making its false claims for LCA in order to influence the the world due to its failure.LCA will be outdated by the time it comes out in full production and India induct it into the services completely by 2015.No one knows as to how many more decades will pass before it becomes a reality.
Tejas far superior to J-10. Tejas is the best, you guys have a new coffin and this TIN BOX, hehehehe, your pilots will be fried chicken in lahore skies. Porki fried chicken ready made by Tejas in Lahore, rofl!
@fighterpilot65 India is one of the only major countries of the world that has been been unable to design and manufacture its own planes, tanks and missiles that work. The Key word is “work’. India has struggled for over two decades in designing the Tejas and it is not close to flight trials. The LCA, the Arjun, Trishul, Akash and other missiles are the same failed stories. It purchased hundreds of Flying Coffins which it could neither maintain nor fly.
I do not understand why you reply to yourself, it is so gay to reply to yourself. You and I know you are the same person with multiple IDs. Goes to show how desperate you porkies are getting into illusion. Perhaps dreams, and illusion is all you have correctly, while the country is being raped consistently by US, russians, Taliban, British, China, Canada, Japan and others. Wounder why you weep when Indians wanna have some fun along with these guys? hmm? whats that?
@fighterpilot65 January 2009 ADA sought assistance from EADS to redesign the Tejas undercarriage and help reduce the weight of the fighter which is already 1.5 tons heavier than envisaged. Some of the other problems that ADA needs help with are fuel distribution, uneven braking, flight controls, environment controls and testing.ADA is still struggling with its engine although they have decided to use American F404-GE-IN20 but that needs to redesign the whole plan.almost a failed project.
India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. India’s failed LCA is the stuff made for jokes around military headquarters from Brussells to Moscow to Beijing to Washington. India has been trying to produce a plane called the LCA. After a decade of design, Delhi has failed to produce a fully operational plane. The project is years away from its completion.
PAF’s JF-17 project was launched in partnership with China in 1997.In just nine years and with just $500 million spent,the JF-17 was flying in Pakistani Airspace on March 23rd 2007–with the maiden flight having taken place much earlier in 2003.
The Indian Air Force on the other hand has with significant assistance from France, Israel, and the United States worked on the Tejas (meaning Radiant) LCA project for over two decades and the aircraft is no closer to induction. Infact it gets worse.
Howdies bitch! How u doing? Bleed yet? ROFL, wanna JF_17, J-10 hmmmm? J-10 crashed 4 times (killing 3 pilots), the last one being very recent. its a new coffin ching fucks are presentling you, lick it, take, showel it in your ass. Get that NEW COFFIN. Now, this tin box is no better than a Sitara trainer jet! Its no better than Hawk trainer jet, ROFL. get over it, now bend and eat my dumplings! ROFL....
@TheBharath2010 : Hey ignoramus from towelhead led nation. I guess the dot on your forehead is clouding your brain or it must be all that cowpiss. All your HAL built Mig 21s are being sold as junk while a lot of ladies have switched to wearing white only and wiped the vermilion from their foreheads. TEJAS= Tin Engine Junk Airframe SHIT ! All you HIND-ians do is slave for the call center masters or slave for the Gulf Arabs who make you sweep camel shit !
So you are a porki afterall. while your forefathers spread theirs vaginas sooooo wide to get raped by the barbarians who you claims to be masters. Infact, they were YOUR masters. The fact that you are now a muslim and NOT a hindu claims that fact. Now, do not bark too much, you might get thirsty. YOU will need to beg me to piss my urine in your mouth to quench that thirst! SILLY YOU! ROFL!
What did Indian Air Force (IAF) achieve in twenty six years while consuming over $2 billion? the answer to that is Zilch; Zero; Nada; Nothing – except a failed project and a continued embarrassment in the shape ‘Tejas’. Tejas LCA (Light Combat Aircraft, also known as LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT) has gone many trials and tests and there’s no sign of induction as yet. It has now been announced to enter IAF in 2015. almost a failed project.Whereas JF-17 is fully operational and inducted in PAF.
@TheWarriorsMr CHINESE JF IS OUT OF TOP 12 FIGHTER JET ! JF HAVE MOST-LY ELECTRO MECHANICAL SYSTEM ! TEJAS HAVE FULLY COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM , HAVE NO ELECTRO MECHANICAL SYSTEM ! TEJAS DELTA WING AND CARBON FIBERED TITANIUM BODY IS THE REAL PIECE OF MODERN MRCA AIRCRAFT ! IT'S ENGINE FROM EUROJET ! HAVE UPTO 6 TYPES OF SELF DEFENSE SYSTEM ! DELTA WING GAVE LAST STAGE OF STABILITY AND GREAT TURN DEGREE! IT'S HAVE PESA RADER ! ONLY RUSSIA AND INDIA HAVE THAT TYPE RADER !
@TheWarriorsMr Ever tried to compare the Su 30? thrust vectored manouvering, thrust vectored AA missiles, range, ECM, ECCM capabilities? BAR Radar apperture? IRST range? the turn radius is about half of the F16. carries exactly double the number of AtoA missiles. Do any of your aircraft have AESA radars for target acquisition?
@TheWarriorsMr after you are done with an honest comparison with the F16 ... try comparing with the Eurofighter... our likely choice for the MRCA. do an honest comparison yourself ... in this forum for everyone to appreciate
@TheWarriorsMr ...we admit that it took us a while to develop this aircrsft ...but the end result is magnificient ...its an aircraft unlike any other in the world ...its made completly out of composit matarial..unlike the jf-17...its avionics and interface are israily one of the best in the world...and it has all the configuaration that the jf-has..be it the countermeasures etc...jf-is a standard aircraft ..but tejas is not ...and after kaveri enjine is developed it will cost less then jf-17
infact ...tejas has many modern features that the jf-17 dosent have....and because it is small it is quight stealthy ...unlike the jf-17....dude...indian radars can pick up those birds in ur airspace....we know each time u guys take off and land...those jf-17 are relly easy target for our SAMs.....soo dude u guys are the one flying chines junk !!!
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17.The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability.Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take.JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests.The biggest problem is its Engine & not going to operational before 2015.
only by 2024 will their be any LCA with Kavir engine AESA radar and isreali avionics will be ready for IOC for now i think indians are in big state of denial which will bring a phonological side effects to them.
Hahhaha, he stole from pakistani newspaper, hahahha So jealous porkies are. Tejas such a beauty. Junk Fighter aka tin box, is the ugliest a/c in the world. Jealous porkies, SHAME SHAME!
@Askywarrior To develop anything state-of-the-art, you need to keep the pace up, otherwise its already old when getting to operational. I think this is one of the biggest problems with LCA is the pace of things. Requirements are getting tougher with time. And output is becoming slower. Don’t get it wrong, i like the little bagger, but there are obviously serious problems with poor plane.
Tejas has much more small advantages than JF's... Like composite material, minimal joints, percentage employment is also best in its class (read more about HAL Tejas)... Additionally all electronics and avionics is indigenously developed... So in short it took time to develop but it is "SMART".. Not like chinese technology.. No wonder if JF electronics stop working midway!! Excellent INDIA.. n congrats for wonderful aircraft...
India's 25-year-old Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme, delayed by more than a decade, continues to be plagued by serious technical uncertainties and cost overruns, according to India's Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG).
A new CAG report states in 2010 that the LCA's development by the Aeronautical Development Agency, which is funded by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, is "beset with delays for almost every vital component of the aircraft".
@fighterpilot65 The Indians don´t know which engine to fit in the LCA since their "indigenous" Kaveri-engine is years from working, if it will work at all. Jet-engine companies from both Russia and France have trying to fix it, but it seems to be at a dead end.Any new engine they choose will require major redesign of the fuselage, thats a few more years of delays. If the LCA ever becomes operational, lets be optimistic and say 2015, it will however be hopelessly out of date.
@fighterpilot65 LCA was suppose to be indigenous, a task that proved to be to difficult and there is not many "indigenous" key-systems in the air craft today. LCA has some major problems as it seems now, the most important one being a lack of thrust, the testflights have only reached M1.2 and 4Gs, not exactly impressive for a multi-role fighter.
LCA is from the design -dassault, FBW-Lockheed,Radar-Israel, to everything is dependent on foriegn assistance. For all the assistance provided by aerospace gaints--Dassault, BAE to Lockheed Martin, LCA still will be going back to drawing boards. India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. I wonder how long will it take for the LCA probably another decade?
The enthusiasm of Indians for their Defense Research Projects managed by the DRDO, such as the LCA, Arjun MBT and the Brahmos is gratifying. But unfortunately, there is no similar enthusiasm for DRDO products within the defense forces. The IAF is not as thrilled as the young people on these forums about the proposed induction of the LCA.Even after 30 years of research and billions of dollars spending they have produced nothing but just failed project like LCA, ARJUN, BRAHMOS and others many.
There is no comparison between a flying eagle (JF-17) and a vulture's baby (LCA) sitting in its nest since 1982. IAF has announced that LCA (LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT) won't be operational before 2015 (not sure). Whereas PAF will have 250 JF-17 by 2015 and then from 2015 to onward PAF will have JF-17 Block II and stupid Indians trying to compare it with their failed LCA. lol
Eagle, it is a insect, rofl. TEJAS IS the bright light you see before your deadth, THE RADIANCE! Your insects will not even fly, better store them so that you can sell them in the junk yard. With higher prices in Karachi, you might get a good deal there! POrki cunt fucks!
This is so gay fighter, even Bangladesh rejected it, so much for the "high tech" in this TIN BOX, hahahhahaha. Bangaldesh Said, "no thank you" and bought MIG 20's hahahha. This tin box isn't going anywhere. Oh, that Junk Fighter-10 has crashed 3 times already, COFFINNNNNNNN already but a new one, porkies salivation to get a new coffin, hahahha, IAF so happy, hahha SHAME SHAME!
History Shows That There is no Glory in IAF since its Birth.... where as PAF History and even present is full of Glorious Victories... IAF is just batter then PAF in terms of Numbers... Other wise world knows which air force is Famous for Having Flying Coffins. And a clear example is Development of JF-17 from Pakistan/Chine and the world's most famous LCA - LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT which has proven as a failed project.
@ImFlyingEagle LCA is underdevelopment from more than two decades since its conception; the LCA has yet to reach production status. Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of these tests were also failed and the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests.
Where as JF-17 has been inducted & fully in one squadron and perfumed well during high mark exercise and the most recent PAK-CHINA air force exercise.
@Howard0Hughes Not only does the PAF a wide range of modern aircraft but it now also has indigenous capability to develop planes and drones. In light of the failures of the LCA and missile program, the Indians are schocked by the speed in which the JF-17 Thunder and Pakistani missiles were developed.
@TheBharath2010 It clearly shows that how frustrated your are the JF-17 is flying high and ur LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT has nope to become operational clearance. Whatever you say i never mind coz it is a natural jealousy that you have. I personally like the model of LCA if it will ever able to fly. (which looks not possible at least before 2010) coz even IAF has announced that first 20 LCAs will be inducted in 2018 with limited capability only (clearly shows it’s a failed one).
I am not frustrated, i enjoy bashing u and ur 4 other clown identities. More so, you should be frustrated, poor thing, u disguise yourself with 4 identities, yet u get recognized and get fucked up royally. I mean How fucked up are you any way? Your TIN BOX is a fake, that TIN BOX honestly will NOT go anyway. you paid 15-18 million for that, no avionics, no weapons tested, all you have is WHAT CHINA WANTS YOU TO HAVE! you are such a SLAVE right now. I understand your frustration
@Askywarrior PAF’s JF-17 project was launched in partnership with China in 1995.In just eleven years and with just $500 million spent, the JF-17 was flying in Pakistani Airspace on March 2007.
The Indian Air Force on the other hand has with significant assistance from France, Israel, and the United States worked on the Tejas (meaning Radiant) LCA project for over two decades and the aircraft is no closer to induction. Infact it gets worse.
If you give USA 1 billion, they will make you a pakistan version of f-16 and put it in your mouth! hahahha. China made and you bought it, SLAVE. So what did you do? DId you u finger your ass and then kept it in your mouth? OH ho, not good, share some with your family members!
@aviatormikehunter LCA is not 100% Indian effort. FBW has British components. Radar is from Israel. Engine is from USA. All these foreign elements may only be for interim use. However, at present. LCA is far from 100% Indian effort and still not able to fly with full operational clearance. LCA is still a problem child for the Indians..... While JF-17 is touching soaring high.
Fly by wire is not a componet, you camel piss drinking whore fucked bitch cunt fuck! you madarsasa moron! by product of inbreeding! You donkey fucked whore! JF_17 is touching the ass of a DONKEY. That TIN BOX will fall from the sky like an insect. When tejas takes to the air, ur pilot will try going mach 1.5, but the wings will come off, and he will pasted to the verticle fin like a lizard on the wall. ROFL Tejas toasts J-10 and this TIN BOX. Do not say the same thing porki!
Fly by wire is not a component, you camel piss drinking whore fucked bitch cunt fuck! you madarsasa moron! by product of inbreeding! You donkey fucked whore! JF-17 is touching the ass of a DONKEY. That TIN BOX will fall from the sky like an insect. When Tejas takes to the air, ur pilot will try going mach 1.5, but the wings will come off, and he will pasted to the verticle fin like a lizard on the wall. ROFL Tejas toasts J-10 and this TIN BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same answer everywhere, how sorry is your life? ROFL. You cannot defend TIN BOX, you are such a loser, hey asshole, wear a suicide jacket and blow yourself, ROFL. hahahah. Your tin box going anywhere and that J-10 already crashed 3 times. TEJAS rules POrkies SKY allllllllllll the time
@pafsbzkhan LCA will never get to fight in the air.Coz even after 25 years it is struggling with its engine which is the heart of any plan.LCA is an aircraft which is denied by the air force which it was made for.India is solving the puzzle, about 8 of them for the museum.Right now it has no hope.
While JF-17 is fully operational and used in high mark 2010, North Waziristan operation and PAK, China, Malaysia, Turkey Joint air exercises 2010. Thats what you call a successful aircraft.
Yawwmm you are talking about TIN BOX right. Off course TIN BOX will not fly when TEJAS takes to the air. TIn box will have its ass torched like there is no glory. Tejas will enjoy ass fucking that TIN BOX and that NEW COFFIN called j-10.
@flanker35su India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. India’s failed LCA is the stuff made for jokes around military headquarters from Brussells to Moscow to Beijing to Washington. India has been trying to produce a plane called the LCA. After a decade of design, Delhi has failed to produce a fully operational plane. The project is years away from its completion.
There is no competition between LCA Tejas and JF-17 Thunder, reason is very much technical. Pakistan already have started the production of JF-17 on ful-scale and its second variant JF-17-2 will be tested in 2011/12 while on another hand LCA is failure, ins’t finalized yet,even after taking 25 years. Due to these problems even IAF is reluctant to induct this plane and now announced that it will be inducted after 2015.
Jf 17 is chinese junk and forget about our plane not pulling the requisite gs. We have the engines now. Ur kind master USA is just dying to do business with us and hence will gibe us its latest ge414 enginge which powers the Super Hornet! No bad huh! Perhaps u forgot that we are buying another 125 planes and the choice is between Eurofighetr typhoo, rafael, gripen, F16I, Super Hornet and the MiG 35. Enjoy ur 3.5gen chinese junk while we move into the 4.5 era. HAHAHAHA!
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
ADA has taken too long to develop the Tejas. A 25 years lead time to develop a fighter aircraft is unrealistic.The IAF was never enthusiastic about inducting LCA. The aircraft's combat performance was dismal and so was its weapon load and Engine problem.Its high pressure hydraulic system has frequent failures and its engine and fbw systems has serious defects. During its prototype tests the LCA prototypes were grounded for many months on many occasions.It has failed in many flight tests.
@flanker35su update ur info idiot.......IAF changed their specifications many time ........that's the main problem apart from the failure of kaveri engine....but tejas is not a bad fighter ......and now equipped with GE-414 engines and armes with astra BVR missiles......it can fuck any fighter
The 500th Flying Coffin of the Indian Airforce crashed a few weeks ago. This marked a world record for any Airforce. No other Airforce in the world has had so many crashes. Pilot error, equipment malfunction or just pure incompetence has led to this ignominious award to the IAF. Another example of incompetence is LCA (LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT). The Indian LCA has been in development for more than a decade with no output. In normal circumstances this would be considered a failed project.
@fighterpilot65 what an idiot u r ....we didn't loose 500 flying coffins which are called to MiG-21s moreover it's totally wrong that IAF faced more crashes than any other air force ....but for ur kind info IAF lost abt 365 MiG-21 planes in crashes out of 962 deployed since 1962..it's better than the german luftwaffe which lost 263 aircrafts out of abt 650 F-102 starfighters deployed .........it can be 500 if u take account of all the fighters and wars too ...in that case US lost more than us
There is no comparison between LCA and JF-17. JF-17 Is fully operational and LCA is almost a Failed project. Many experts believe that JF-17/FC-1 is more in a competition with MiG-29 only it being a single engine & since IAF the only threat to Pakistan/PAF has large number of MiG-29s the JF-17 would fit right in the PAF. JF-17s can provide a greater defence against them aswell as take on MiG21, MiG-27, Jaguars etc (excluding Su-30MKI & may be Mirage2000H aswell).
@ImFlyingEagle LCA is not a failed project ....it's engine program was the only failure but now it is getting the advance GE-414 engine from US .......moreover if JF-17 is soo techie then why china is reluctant to produce it in mass for it's airforce.???it's nth but a flying toy made by china for it's paki frnds who can only afford such filthy toys........and u r comparing that toy with MiG-29 eh???? then listen mate MiG-29 can perform pugachyev's cobra maneuver which JF-17 can only dream off
There is no comparison between LCA and JF-17. JF-17 Is fully operational and LCA is almost a Failed project.
Many experts believe that JF-17/FC-1 is more in a competition with MiG-29 only it being a single engine & since IAF the only threat to Pakistan/PAF has large number of MiG-29s the JF-17 would fit right in the PAF. JF-17s can provide a greater defence against them aswell as take on MiG21, MiG-27, Jaguars etc (excluding Su-30MKI & may be Mirage2000H aswell).
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17.The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity.Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability.JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability.Above all JF-17 is fully operational fighter where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests.LCA has inducted for face saving of india but IAF has admitted that it could be a good trainer but not a good fighter one due to its v.limited capabilities.
TheWarriorsMr 3 weeks ago
mount couple of pistols on the camel ...it would work better than jf17
Its just about time tejas would be rolled in numbers and will outplay the best in the sky ...
Pakistan ,,,, got they are beggars with loud mouth
shitonpak 2 months ago
@shitonpak put condom on banana at it work better than your indian dick, mother fucker keep burning . put it face to face with jf 17 ... oops my bad tejas can't fly, it not operational. damn you indian make me laugh despite getting all weapon from russia you still cll them your example brahmos x-russian anti ship missile.
lovepafchampion 1 month ago
TEJAS ALL READY BIT THE JF !
TEJAS IS WORLD LIGHTEST,SMALL ,DELTA STABLE AIRCRAFT !
LCA IS INDIAN JOINT-DEVELOPMENT WITH RUSSIAN,ISRAEL,AMERICA,FRANCE !!
NO ONE TRUST CHINESE CULPRIT !
souro19 4 months ago
tejas is sole indian by hal ltd
upenderjajj 4 months ago
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atleast our JF-17 is operational not like your tejas which is still in its test phase u endians should stop bragging and should make something that is operational ur missiles are also under development nd are still not delivered to ur army ur only operational missile is agni with a range of 200 km.so stop dreaming and make something that works or else just shut ur mouths
yusufkhanghori 4 months ago
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According to an IAF source associated,Tejas has inducted but it is still not be the fighter the air force had agreed to accept for limited squadron service.Now in IAF there is a divide on LCA. Some want to turn the LCA into a advanced jet trainer due to its failure as multirole fighter, others are still convinced that it could be a success.
Other the other hand the PAF’s JF-17 is a success in designing and developing a light fighter aircraft in such short time in collaboration with China.
Pakizzzz1 4 months ago
Lora choos areoplane...
LCA is almost a failed project.
India has become such a country, whose every indigenous project ended in failure with the waste of thousands of failed hours. Now india has inducted LCA in IAF in hurry even with its limited capability and defects just to save its FACE.
IAF has decide to induct 20 LCAs by 2017 with limited capability even lower then MiG21. India is repeating the same story of arjun and Murat
Pakizzzz1 4 months ago
LCA Tejas Is much Better Than J-17
goldygld55 5 months ago
Pakistanis first try to control your country....
kuchu25 6 months ago
@kuchu25 well im waitin fr d time 2 kick ur ars.ur countrys gonna b washed off if half of d indians pee on u
upenderjajj 4 months ago
@upenderjajj come face to face and then we will see who will kick whose ass....
kuchu25 4 months ago
GAY HIND!!!! GAY HIND!!!! BHANGEE INDIAN COW PISS DRINKERS RATS YOUR LCA IS A CHILD'S TOY INFRONT OF JF-17. WE WILL BEAT YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN LIKE WE DID BEFORE.
slayerz01 6 months ago
In My opinion JF-17 is more or less a good fighter and probably much batter then LCA but it is not as good as F-16Block 52+ or J-10B (FC-20).JF-17 has same TWR as F-16 and MiG-29, in point defence mission it can be a difficult opponent. it has a higher instantaneous turn rate then LCA (31-29deg/s). In dogfight we have seen delta wings aircraft have some advantage but LCA has lost those advantage due to lack of required thrust from it current American engine.
Visscarionovich 6 months ago
LCA is a good aircraft & its good points are small signature visual.Can LCA beat a JF-17? That’s a million dollars question & can be answered only after their face to face competition in a dog fight.
In my opinion so far with current statistics LCA can’t beat JF17 unless it has superior roll rates allowing it to change direction quicker.
But sustaining a turn against the F-7PG,JF-17,F-16 or J-10 I think it will be a mistake specially if it use the current American Engine with very low thrust.
bestfighterpilot 6 months ago 6
Although the LAC has been inducted with numbers of major defects as fighter aircraft but True Rome was not built in a day but that was rome. This rome (LCA ) the white elephant, the way its being going on for past 30 years, seems will not be get fully operational capability in next 5 years.
But IAF can use this failed experience in future & can use this LCA as advance jet trainer or may be become beauty of museum or some public square to remind their 30 years of nonstop effort.
VayuRakshak 6 months ago 6
JF-17 is a product of CHINA not Pakistan just like the Al Khalid. So if I was a Paki I wouldnt be showing off...because if China stops supplying arms to Pakistan you be fukked. While India, eventhough has failed many time on their fighter planes, missiles and tanks, will have the knowledge and capabilities to manufacture their own weapons.
khmerog1 6 months ago
@khmerog1 n what has made by india? all fighter jets are combined projects with russia all submarines are joint projects. name one single fighter jet engine made by india?
shnawer 4 months ago
@shnawer hey i agree with you. India got foreign help and support and used foreign equipments on most or even all their aircrafts. I'm just letting the people who thinks that JF-17 was all Pakistan know that it is mostly China who built it with Pakistan input.
khmerog1 4 months ago
Can i really get a neutral assessments as to who is better?
These stupid pakis cant believe that it Indian....and try to put dassault into it.
Tom. if im doin a college project and i ask my frnd some hint on it....i'll write his name on the project along with mine too.
rohitb3 7 months ago
jf 17 is nothing, but a crap in today's world, thing is that, it can fight, and is cheap. this is the only way for paf to counter India's rapid military modernisation, by number.
pakiporkiller 7 months ago
@TheWarriorsMr those JF-17s ll be awesome for target practice once our jointly developed PAK FA's arrive ... until then they ll still be used for target practice by the indian Sukhoi Mkis ! eat ur words faggot !
blesson87 7 months ago
@TheWarriorsMr i cant believe u jus said the indian airforce still has to see success in the areas of missiles ! u freakin douche bag ! ever heard of the super cruise nuclear capable missile BRAHMOS ? it is capable of land to air, air to air and sea to air missions ! does ur PAF or china ve something even close related to this ? research well before u open ur mouth n bring out cold hard facts instead of jumping round celebrating bout ur dumb JF-17 !
blesson87 7 months ago
LCA is a learning experience for IAF & an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations & Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
On the other hand JF-17 is tested,multirole,very handy,more maneuverable and v.decent aircraft it its price.
pafsbzkhan 7 months ago 2
do u really think if dassault was working on the lca it would have taken 28 yrs!!! grow up!!!
1590murali 8 months ago
Jf 17 thunder is obviously better than LCA tejas.
Tejas is just a piece of junk, and another flying coffin which is soon gonna be inducted by the IAF.
And the block II of Jf-17 thunder would definitely be better than LCA Tejas. (@those who think that the first block is less capable than Jf-17)
Mysticalseacreature 8 months ago
simply jf17 is much better bcos pakistani funded for this project thats all
and yes c++is used by pakistani engineer
qwertyui66771 8 months ago
@qwertyui66771 fuck u v play wid java n python since our intermidiate classes.talk about graduation den im frm mechanical stream still i can design surfaces thru matlab
upenderjajj 4 months ago
@upenderjajj what do u think who am i?haha
qwertyui66771 4 months ago
@upenderjajj man i use sarcastic lines.better try to understand what i right/
qwertyui66771 4 months ago
Chinese got tech from Russia.Pakistan cant even stand without begging to US how can u compare urself with india?????????????
abhijithero 8 months ago
I think the JF-17 is relatively batter then LCA, JF-17 have decent agility, its LERXes give excellent lift & its wing descent sustained turn rate.
LCA have a better lower wing loading since it has a relatively huge wing,but its wing probably loses more lift at turns since it is a delta & with the current engine which is not providing the full thrust it's even not comparable with existing MiG21.Experts said that a new & bigger engine is required which may cause a complete redesigning of LCA.
Visscarionovich 8 months ago
the english dictionary should redefine the meaning of delusion,
delusion means indian
manofadventure 8 months ago
The JF-17 is much better than the MiG-21 for sure, it is a Mirage 2000-F-16A type, now they are improving it, but certainly is a match for aircraft like the F-16, MiG29, Mirage 2000 or SU30 but you can not expect it to be good in everything.
On the other hand IAF and Indian media is saying the current capabilities of inducted LCA are even lower then MiG21bison and we are debugging it. If it is lower then the current MiG21s then how we could compare it with JF-17.
aviatormikehunter 8 months ago 3
We dont need more LCAs cause our calculation is.. 1LCA enough for 10 JF-17s.
And check this retarded kids..
LCA wing area - 38m2
JF-17 wing area - 24.4m2
LCA Max. Takeoff weight - 13300Kg
JF-17 Max Takeoff weight - 12700Kg
LCA Max G limit - 9g
JF-17 Max G limit - 8.5g
And watch this kid..
watch?v=gX4W-goLSIo
JineshJK 8 months ago
Nuclear technology -Donation from Dutch and China.
Missiles -Donation from US, China and North Korea.
Aircrafts -Donation from US and China.
Tanks -Donation from Ukraine and China.
Navy -Donation from France, China and US.
Pakistan.. Please develope at least a small communication Set instead Football and Cloths for your Military. Then boast about that...
JineshJK 8 months ago
___ COMPARISON of Specifications LCA & JF____
Dry thrust: LCA=53.9kN & JF= 49.4 kN____
Thrust with afterburner: LCA= 85 kN & JF=84.4 kN____
Internal Fuel Capacity:LCA=2,458 Kg & JF=2300 kg____
G-limit:LCA=+9g upto -3.5g & JF= +8.5 g____
Maximum speed: LCA=2,376+ km/h & JF=2,205km/h____
Range:LCA=3,000 km (1,840 mi) without refueling and JF= 1,352 km
source WIKI
(NOW u know which is the better aircraft :)
DbigXray 9 months ago
shut up basturds.......ol Indians know that JF-17 is not pakistani made........its just have some final touch ups in pakistan......like paint, etc......while LCA Tejas is absolutely Indian made.......
annu424 9 months ago
why is their a photo of an F-16 at the :25 mark...?
BerenTol 9 months ago
JF is chineese....cant say how long it will last...and maybe the LCA would last if it will ever be inducted
nkaditya 9 months ago
i'd rather be in the fight than fly over it anyway... LCA is a work in progress. the JF is a chinese rip off... and the chinese ripped off the Russians.
so, saying the JF works is not that great since it isn't something the pakis came up with.
markvijit 10 months ago
HAHAHAAHHAHAh enjoying a second hand handout FAILED STATE??? 250 JF17s by 2025?? think youll be stable till 2025? HAHAHA, this video misses the broader point, WE HAVE SU 30 MKIs, AND MMRCAs which are better that any plane you field :D while we build the infrastructure to make better planes at home, GO BEG ABROAD! HAHAHA
paritoshmehta123 10 months ago
so when an indian kutee ka bach say a Pakistani a paki lol ... dont worry they are insulting them selves. hahahaha
lutfishah 10 months ago
lol just to let the indian cunts and dum ass people know that what does Paki mean
The word "paki" goes back to the 1950s when Asian immigrants were arriving in the UK for the first time and many found themselves unwelcome and the target for racist abuse and attacks. The word was used to describe anyone from that part of the world even though it was often applied to Indians,Sri Lankans,Bangladeshis, etc, none of whom had anything to do with Pakistan at all obviously.
lutfishah 10 months ago
LCA is a learning experience for IAF,and an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations and Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
On the other hand JF-17 is very handy, more maneuverable and decent aircraft it its price.
Howard0Hughes 10 months ago 3
@Howard0Hughes As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
ImFlyingEagle 10 months ago
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@Howard0Hughes As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
ImFlyingEagle 10 months ago
@Howard0Hughes thats y china has no jf 17right???
qwertyui66771 8 months ago
They both suck. It's all about the F-15 Silent Eagle and Su-35!
vfIskullangel 10 months ago
Hi, all Indians over here pls dont worry abt this shitty comparison. Pakistan shall spending billions of dollars in buying Chineese crap and rot their economy. As resources are so misutilised poor pakis will disintegrate their own country to make a livelihhod. India today has a successful space program,Spy satellite,LCA,Stealth Helicopters etc all home made. All Pakis have got is Chineese Crap. They are crap eating pigs. Thats the reality
kulkarnijaideep 10 months ago
yeah yeah we all know the "pakistani" aircraft having only one pakistani system.
adityadange 10 months ago
Awesome!!!! Pakistan rules.
Slayerz001 10 months ago
According to an IAF source associated with the long-delayed indigenous fighter program,Tejas has inducted but it is still not be the fighter the air force had agreed to accept for limited squadron service.Performance specifications that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has not been able to attain include sustained turn rate, speed at low altitude, angle of attack and certain weapon delivery profiles.Exactly how far off the performance is from the specification remains classified.
Askywarrior 11 months ago
@dilipreddy97...Hey dothead, you epitomize how in denial, delusional and just plain ignorant you are with your comment on a "ultrasonic boom." What the hell does that have to do with the fact that the JF-17 is ALREADY in service and the LCA is a moneywasting JOKE! I understand that braindamage and grinding poverty are rampant in India, you need to start drinking CLEAN water! Indian dothead Hindi punkass faggots: DO NOT MESS WITH PAKISTAN! ALLAH-A-AKHBAR!!!!!
pmoy61 11 months ago
The JF-17 is in Pakistani Air Force service whereas the Indian LCA is still in the development stage. Until it finally reaches Indian squadrons, any comparison is useless. Looking good on paper doesn't count. After being in development for about 20 years and spending tons of money, the end product does not look too impressive. The LCA resembles a small French Mirage 2000 with a much lower payload. The JF-17 is affordable (about $15 million) and can perform the tasks it was designed for.
pmoy61 1 year ago
@pmoy61 DRDO chief VK Aatre had said about the LCA Tejas’ “We have developed a fighter aircraft in 30 years and it still have a long way to go”. Air Chief PV Naik’s gave critical remarks at the initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCA that "LCA is just a 3 or 3.5 generation aircraft when it was actually supposed to be developed as a fourth generation one and and it will be used in IAF with limited operational capability", exposes IAF’s dissatisfaction with LCA’s development.
flanker35su 11 months ago 2
@flanker35su LCA - Still long time from being fully operational induction. The famous LCA is cruising towards crossing the milestone of 200 flights but the IAF is worried about number of issues they facing for it operational capability. ”Going by the current progress, it will be a miracle if we are able to induct two squadrons of the fully-operational LCA by 2015. So far we have inducted a poor version (like 3Generation Trainer Aircraft) of LCA to satisfy our souls” says a senior IAF officer.
bestfighterpilot 11 months ago 2
IAF Tejas has an Ultrasonic boom of 1000 million hertz(hz) whereas JF-17 has a "meow" of a cat of 756 million hertz.(hz).
dilipreddy97 1 year ago
And the French Dassault Aviation is with us, whereas you have fucking China in support which even we have. so, FUCK Pakistanis.
IAF vs. PAF=IAF WINS!!!!
dilipreddy97 1 year ago
Pakistan got Independence 1 day before India and bloody it is 20 years behind India in development and technology and it is a bloody terrorist country!
You people better go and lick Osama Bin Laden's Dick.
dilipreddy97 1 year ago
Fuck off you bloody head-pecked up motherfucker Pakistanis. First of all you people depend upon China for all your aircrafts and now you say Pakistan wins? IAF is at the number 7 position in Air Force in the World and bloody PAF is at the 28th rank! You motherfuckers should learn making some fighter aircrafts. And also why is the Asian Aero Show not held in Pakistan? It is always held in India for its integrity and safety and also developing technology. Pakistan is bloody 2decades behind India.
dilipreddy97 1 year ago
u fucking paki lawde pehele chalna toh sikho,china ki gand chat chatke toh jf17 banaya nahi toh tumhari itni bhi aukad nahi thi......india se panga liya na toh tumhare sare jf 17 tumhare gand mein bhar denge.........fuck u chutad pakis......
777boundless 1 year ago
I think Jf17 can win tejas.
kpopishh67 1 year ago
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HEY INDIANS GET LOST WITH YOUR FLYING SAMOSA LCA (lame cheap ass)
MrGhaxaal 1 year ago
Porkistan is a FAILED State. Period.
vishalaa97 1 year ago
@vishalaa97 Stop BARKING u INDIOTS, just live ur life..
MrNomenome 1 year ago
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@vishalaa97 HEY INDIANS GET LOST WITH YOUR FLYING SAMOSA LCA (lame cheap ass)
MrGhaxaal 1 year ago
china product does not sustain longer.fuck pakistan.the country of beggers
jishnu563 1 year ago
@jishnu563 maybe true but indian's product cant even put in service and need help from european especially their military.
kpopishh67 1 year ago
neither do we cr bout ur fkin jet..
shubhamsamanta 1 year ago
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'TEJAS HAS BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE IAF!!!!!!!! '
just as a show piece, nothing else...
mianmitthu 1 year ago
TEJAS HAS BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE IAF!!!!!!!!
shubhamsamanta 1 year ago
@shubhamsamanta Dont give a shit about ur shitty jet
ALIG1985 1 year ago
soon j 10 will jion PAF then j-20 when the f35 or t5o will jion IAF o that s a big question inidan have to pay 5billion usd to develop T50 first or give more to american
gdzbear 1 year ago
wht did u achieved by makin such an Idiotic video......
u people dont hav the guts to place 2 billion on ur scientists......coz u dont trust on their knowledge........bt v do
cooldev0509 1 year ago
Chinese J-20 首飞 fighter flight[1] 中国歼20战机
ssss12598 1 year ago
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IAF Cheif: LCA is a mig-21++ fighter, not 4th generation, is not all weather, has compromised avionics and standards.
Even a pathetic airforce with highest crash rates in the world doesn't want it.
...that explains the indigenous cry.
shumayelahmed 1 year ago
The LCA was a flawed project in its early years however due to vast spending on Indians point of view, they couldn't afford to scrap it hence the reason the project is still crippling forward today. Nevertheless, the JF-17 is an infant compared to the LCA and I would say more successful in that the short time compared to the LCA it has achieved much more and we have seen more test flights of the JF-17 than the number of photos of the LCA
pafsbzkhan 1 year ago
The success story of the JF-17 development stands out in sharp contrast to many aviation failures — the Israeli Lavi and the Indian Tejas being some examples of abject failures. The PAF is the only air force in the world to successfully take on the challenge of designing and developing a fighter aircraft. Failure is nothing new to the Indian defense establishment. Actually, the establishment has yet to show success either in missiles or in tanks. Of course it has had no success in planes.
TheWarriorsMr 1 year ago 13
@TheWarriorsMr The delayed LCA would be carrying only “limited weaponry”.As LCA strive for initial clearance,Indian & International experts have come up with strong complications that LCA's US aeroengine GE404 does not have requisite thrust to give power to carry full load of weaponry.LCA was aimed to be armed with variety of weapons.During the recent weaponisation, experts have found that LCA cannot carry its full load of armaments including crucial missiles & limited manoeuvrability.
AmericanRaptor1 9 months ago 3
@TheWarriorsMr paf didnt design the jf17 on its own!!.it was the chinese who made jf17!!! whereas the lca is a completely indegenous project!!! had the americans given us our wind tunnel results the lca would have come a lot before!!!!
1590murali 8 months ago
@TheWarriorsMr what a joke china made this told Pakistan how too build it. Guess what the pak-fa makes the jf-17 a joke which is a joint of India and Russia. Then the jf17 is just a j10 jacked up in the first place. which is the Lavi finished guess what from the f16.
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POoor TIN BOX cannot fly at all, hahhahaha, TEJAS WILL TOAST THIS MIDNIGHT BASTARD FROM THE SLY LIKE A FLY, HHAHAHHAA
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
The Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project was sanctioned in 1982 with a budget of Rs 560 crore to develop a state-of-the-art fighter aircraft to replace IAF's MiG-21 fighters. Close to Rs 12,000 crore have since been spent but the aircraft, rechristened as Tejas, still remains under development. It is currently being tested with a substitute engine (F404-GE-IN20) and makeshift avionics package.But IAF is still not sure about it. Where as JF-17 has been inducted & fully in two squadrons.
AmericanRaptor1 1 year ago 8
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago 3
LCA has some major problems as it seems now, the most important one being a lack of thrust, the testflights have only reached M1.2 and 4Gs, not exactly impressive for a multi-role fighter. The Indians don´t know which engine to fit in the LCA since their "indigenous" Kaveri-engine is years from working, if it will work at all. Jet-engine companies from both Russia and France have trying to fix it, but it seems to be at a dead end. Whereas JF-17 is fully operational fighter jet.
flanker35su 1 year ago 4
SOME WRONG PROPAGANDA DATA ABOUT TEJAS !
TEJAS RANGE IS MORE THAN JF !
IT'S RADER IS MORE N MORE-LY BETTER THAN JF !
TEJAS HAVE SUPERSONIC SPEED IN ALL ALTITUDE !
IT'S FLIGHT CONTROL BEAT THE JF !
'SUPER RELAXED STATIC STABILITY 'DESIGN BEAT THE JF !
IT'S SELF PROTECTION , HAVE MORE THAN 8 TYPES !
FROM 100 DEFENSE LABORATORY AND 5 COUNTRY ! INCLUDED AMERICA,RUSSIA,ISRAEL,FRANCE,SWEDEN !
SO
JF IS TOTALLY SUCK !
souro19 1 year ago
HA HA GREAT PROPOGANDA !
WHO SAY THAT ? .. TEJAS CANNOT PULL UPTO 17 DEGREE ???
TEJAS HAVE DELTA WING AND EUROJET ENGINE !
IT'S GAVE GREAT STABILITY AND AERODYNAMIC MOVEMENT !
MORE THAN 3 COUNTRY'S TECHNICIAN ARE INVOLVED IN TEJAS PROJECT !
AMERICA,ISRAEL,FRANCE,RUSSIAN AIR EXPERT ARE SIDE-LY HELPED THE INDIAN TEJAS !
CHINA ALSO KNOW THE INDIAN STRATEGY !
souro19 1 year ago
Areh Yar India and Pakistan are brothers. We have the same genes and dna yaar. same parents. why should we fight with pakistan. We consider pakistan as our west punjab and sindh and kashmir. We are all Indians yaar. Jai Hind!
littleshazzah 1 year ago
LCA is underdevelopment from more than three decades & LCA has yet to reach production status.It continues to perform endless flight tests and most of these tests were also failed.Difficulties with its flight controls & power plant (kaveri engine) are still there and the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests.
Where as JF-17 has been inducted & fully in one squadron and perfumed well during high mark exercise and the most recent PAK-CHINA air force exercise.
flanker35su 1 year ago 3
well listen all you lundians if you strap your fuckin self on rocket and attack Pakistan then again nothing gonna happen coz you pee in yo pants after see a single Pakistani soldier fuckin your mother so LCA or No LCA you daal eaters slum living shits are bunch of bastards and the result of free fuck by a visitors so to fuck with you and your propaganda...now bark after my comment coz i know my comment burn your ass alot
MrGhaxaal 1 year ago
@booloolood As for as LCA is a failed project. if we can benift from existing technologies why don’t try it we have the determination and muscle to persue any project not like shining rising whose every indigenous project ended in failure with the waste of thousands of failed hours. Now india wants to induct LCA as soon as possible in IAF even with its limited capability and defects just to save its FACE. IAF has decide to induct 20 LCAs by 2017 with limited capability &e ven lesser then MiG21.
Askywarrior 1 year ago 2
we all r wasting our time the time will come and every1 will know the capability of each other wheather JF 17 is best or LCA is the best. but remember that it is the man behind the gun. soooo indians know better what i wana say............
PakiEagle1 1 year ago
lol... 250 sukhoi Pak-Fa's will teach these chinese cheapo jets a lesson...
shatuldurlabhji 1 year ago
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, JF - 17 (Junk Fighter Made in China)is going to die sooner, for it's 5 years older than LCA. Poor Porkis! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yummy2cherry 1 year ago 4
I don't understand that why these 2 fighters are being compared in first place. Neither of them has passed IOC from their countries; Yes JFT has yet to get IOC from PAF; the induction is being done for now only to fill the numbers and replace old timers like A-5 Fantans.
Unless and until both perform some sort of role like scouting, strikes or even dogfights, we cannot say who's better and who's worse. This sort of stupid comparison results in word wars. Give them time and it will show.
Saffronwing1 1 year ago
India's 25-year-old Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme, delayed by more than a decade, continues to be plagued by serious technical uncertainties and cost overruns, according to India's Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG).
A new CAG report states in 2010 that the LCA's development by the Aeronautical Development Agency, which is funded by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, is "beset with delays for almost every vital component of the aircraft".
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago
@ImFlyingEagle CAG's been rapped by MOD already for the false alarm. Please check the latest. LCA is completing radar integration (Israeli-Indian hybrid one), has successfully cleared weapons integration and stress tests without a single crash--not even Migs and Sukhois have such a clean record. Has smallest signatures due to maximum composites to be ever used on a normal fighter in history.
It is coming in a few months into IAF while Mk.2 is already on track as IAF chief said.
Saffronwing1 1 year ago 4
We must annex lahore and northern pakistan!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
The LCA was a flawed project in its early years however due to vast spending on Indians point of view,they couldn't afford to scrap it hence the reason the project is still crippling forward today.India is just making its false claims for LCA in order to influence the the world due to its failure.LCA will be outdated by the time it comes out in full production and India induct it into the services completely by 2015.No one knows as to how many more decades will pass before it becomes a reality.
fighterpilot65 1 year ago 3
@fighterpilot65
Tejas far superior to J-10. Tejas is the best, you guys have a new coffin and this TIN BOX, hehehehe, your pilots will be fried chicken in lahore skies. Porki fried chicken ready made by Tejas in Lahore, rofl!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@fighterpilot65 India is one of the only major countries of the world that has been been unable to design and manufacture its own planes, tanks and missiles that work. The Key word is “work’. India has struggled for over two decades in designing the Tejas and it is not close to flight trials. The LCA, the Arjun, Trishul, Akash and other missiles are the same failed stories. It purchased hundreds of Flying Coffins which it could neither maintain nor fly.
Howard0Hughes 1 year ago 3
@Howard0Hughes
I do not understand why you reply to yourself, it is so gay to reply to yourself. You and I know you are the same person with multiple IDs. Goes to show how desperate you porkies are getting into illusion. Perhaps dreams, and illusion is all you have correctly, while the country is being raped consistently by US, russians, Taliban, British, China, Canada, Japan and others. Wounder why you weep when Indians wanna have some fun along with these guys? hmm? whats that?
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@fighterpilot65 January 2009 ADA sought assistance from EADS to redesign the Tejas undercarriage and help reduce the weight of the fighter which is already 1.5 tons heavier than envisaged. Some of the other problems that ADA needs help with are fuel distribution, uneven braking, flight controls, environment controls and testing.ADA is still struggling with its engine although they have decided to use American F404-GE-IN20 but that needs to redesign the whole plan.almost a failed project.
pafsbzkhan 1 year ago
India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. India’s failed LCA is the stuff made for jokes around military headquarters from Brussells to Moscow to Beijing to Washington. India has been trying to produce a plane called the LCA. After a decade of design, Delhi has failed to produce a fully operational plane. The project is years away from its completion.
aviatormikehunter 1 year ago 3
PAF’s JF-17 project was launched in partnership with China in 1997.In just nine years and with just $500 million spent,the JF-17 was flying in Pakistani Airspace on March 23rd 2007–with the maiden flight having taken place much earlier in 2003.
The Indian Air Force on the other hand has with significant assistance from France, Israel, and the United States worked on the Tejas (meaning Radiant) LCA project for over two decades and the aircraft is no closer to induction. Infact it gets worse.
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago 3
@ImFlyingEagle
Howdies bitch! How u doing? Bleed yet? ROFL, wanna JF_17, J-10 hmmmm? J-10 crashed 4 times (killing 3 pilots), the last one being very recent. its a new coffin ching fucks are presentling you, lick it, take, showel it in your ass. Get that NEW COFFIN. Now, this tin box is no better than a Sitara trainer jet! Its no better than Hawk trainer jet, ROFL. get over it, now bend and eat my dumplings! ROFL....
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@TheBharath2010 : Hey ignoramus from towelhead led nation. I guess the dot on your forehead is clouding your brain or it must be all that cowpiss. All your HAL built Mig 21s are being sold as junk while a lot of ladies have switched to wearing white only and wiped the vermilion from their foreheads. TEJAS= Tin Engine Junk Airframe SHIT ! All you HIND-ians do is slave for the call center masters or slave for the Gulf Arabs who make you sweep camel shit !
Kumbhakaran65 1 year ago
@Kumbhakaran65
So you are a porki afterall. while your forefathers spread theirs vaginas sooooo wide to get raped by the barbarians who you claims to be masters. Infact, they were YOUR masters. The fact that you are now a muslim and NOT a hindu claims that fact. Now, do not bark too much, you might get thirsty. YOU will need to beg me to piss my urine in your mouth to quench that thirst! SILLY YOU! ROFL!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@powerofthroughts
FBW is indian..
Radar co developed.
engine developed but indian airforce has demanded a more powerfull one so GE f 414 is being imported.untill more powerfull kaveri is built
airframe has 90 % composites so less fatigue cracks compared to other planes hence less maintanance
ejection seat system is indian EW suite, known as Mayavi is indian
And IOC is this december...
6 prototypes and 4 LSP already flying.
1 naval prototype also ready
shamkishore 1 year ago
What did Indian Air Force (IAF) achieve in twenty six years while consuming over $2 billion? the answer to that is Zilch; Zero; Nada; Nothing – except a failed project and a continued embarrassment in the shape ‘Tejas’. Tejas LCA (Light Combat Aircraft, also known as LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT) has gone many trials and tests and there’s no sign of induction as yet. It has now been announced to enter IAF in 2015. almost a failed project.Whereas JF-17 is fully operational and inducted in PAF.
TheWarriorsMr 1 year ago 31
@TheWarriorsMr incredible comment ;)
peace out !!!
EvilTeenFurkan 1 year ago
@EvilTeenFurkan No matter when it has come ... Whether it is better or not...that's tha point...
spicylemon41 10 months ago
souro19 1 year ago
@TheWarriorsMr Ever tried to compare the Su 30? thrust vectored manouvering, thrust vectored AA missiles, range, ECM, ECCM capabilities? BAR Radar apperture? IRST range? the turn radius is about half of the F16. carries exactly double the number of AtoA missiles. Do any of your aircraft have AESA radars for target acquisition?
dushtpache 1 year ago
@TheWarriorsMr after you are done with an honest comparison with the F16 ... try comparing with the Eurofighter... our likely choice for the MRCA. do an honest comparison yourself ... in this forum for everyone to appreciate
dushtpache 1 year ago
@TheWarriorsMr 1.IAF spent $2BILLION, which Pakistan can't even think of spending!!!
2. at least we spent 20 years in development, Pakistan, hardly 10 years.
3.And we have the most accurate aiming in jet fighters after blackbird(USA Air force).
4. bloody JF-17s engine is manufactured by Rolls Royce USA, not you fuckin' snip-head Pakistanis.
5.Tejas is an LCA and not a LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT("if you have sense"), whereas pinnin' JF-17 is not you pimp.
6.HAL has already introduced Tejas into IAF.
dilipreddy97 1 year ago
@TheWarriorsMr i know this is a magic of copy paste
ow read this copy paste
theworldreporter. com/2011/04/pakistans-jf-17-vs-indias-lca-tejas. html
qwertyui66771 8 months ago
@TheWarriorsMr ...we admit that it took us a while to develop this aircrsft ...but the end result is magnificient ...its an aircraft unlike any other in the world ...its made completly out of composit matarial..unlike the jf-17...its avionics and interface are israily one of the best in the world...and it has all the configuaration that the jf-has..be it the countermeasures etc...jf-is a standard aircraft ..but tejas is not ...and after kaveri enjine is developed it will cost less then jf-17
rewant911 7 months ago
infact ...tejas has many modern features that the jf-17 dosent have....and because it is small it is quight stealthy ...unlike the jf-17....dude...indian radars can pick up those birds in ur airspace....we know each time u guys take off and land...those jf-17 are relly easy target for our SAMs.....soo dude u guys are the one flying chines junk !!!
rewant911 7 months ago
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17.The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability.Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take.JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests.The biggest problem is its Engine & not going to operational before 2015.
Howard0Hughes 1 year ago 3
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@Howard0Hughes
FBW is indian..
Radar co developed.
engine developed but indian airforce has demanded a more powerfull one so GE f 414 is being imported.untill more powerfull kaveri is built
airframe has 90 % composites so less fatigue cracks compared to other planes hence less maintanance
ejection seat system is indian EW suite, known as Mayavi is indian
And IOC is this december...
6 prototypes and 4 LSP already flying.
1 naval prototype also ready
shamkishore 1 year ago
Here are the facts given by DRDo about LCA
Tranche-1
20 under powered "not just the engine" LCA by 215
20 still under powered LCA by 2017
Tranche-2
?? LCA required by IAF in 2020
Tranche-3
only by 2024 will their be any LCA with Kavir engine AESA radar and isreali avionics will be ready for IOC for now i think indians are in big state of denial which will bring a phonological side effects to them.
Askywarrior 1 year ago
@Askywarrior
Hahhaha, he stole from pakistani newspaper, hahahha So jealous porkies are. Tejas such a beauty. Junk Fighter aka tin box, is the ugliest a/c in the world. Jealous porkies, SHAME SHAME!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@Askywarrior To develop anything state-of-the-art, you need to keep the pace up, otherwise its already old when getting to operational. I think this is one of the biggest problems with LCA is the pace of things. Requirements are getting tougher with time. And output is becoming slower. Don’t get it wrong, i like the little bagger, but there are obviously serious problems with poor plane.
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago 2
Tejas has much more small advantages than JF's... Like composite material, minimal joints, percentage employment is also best in its class (read more about HAL Tejas)... Additionally all electronics and avionics is indigenously developed... So in short it took time to develop but it is "SMART".. Not like chinese technology.. No wonder if JF electronics stop working midway!! Excellent INDIA.. n congrats for wonderful aircraft...
RockyMalhotra2 1 year ago
India's 25-year-old Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme, delayed by more than a decade, continues to be plagued by serious technical uncertainties and cost overruns, according to India's Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG).
A new CAG report states in 2010 that the LCA's development by the Aeronautical Development Agency, which is funded by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, is "beset with delays for almost every vital component of the aircraft".
fighterpilot65 1 year ago
@fighterpilot65 The Indians don´t know which engine to fit in the LCA since their "indigenous" Kaveri-engine is years from working, if it will work at all. Jet-engine companies from both Russia and France have trying to fix it, but it seems to be at a dead end.Any new engine they choose will require major redesign of the fuselage, thats a few more years of delays. If the LCA ever becomes operational, lets be optimistic and say 2015, it will however be hopelessly out of date.
aviatormikehunter 1 year ago
@fighterpilot65 LCA was suppose to be indigenous, a task that proved to be to difficult and there is not many "indigenous" key-systems in the air craft today. LCA has some major problems as it seems now, the most important one being a lack of thrust, the testflights have only reached M1.2 and 4Gs, not exactly impressive for a multi-role fighter.
aviatormikehunter 1 year ago
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LCA is from the design -dassault, FBW-Lockheed,Radar-Israel, to everything is dependent on foriegn assistance. For all the assistance provided by aerospace gaints--Dassault, BAE to Lockheed Martin, LCA still will be going back to drawing boards. India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. I wonder how long will it take for the LCA probably another decade?
Whereas JF-17 is fully operational.
flanker35su 1 year ago
The enthusiasm of Indians for their Defense Research Projects managed by the DRDO, such as the LCA, Arjun MBT and the Brahmos is gratifying. But unfortunately, there is no similar enthusiasm for DRDO products within the defense forces. The IAF is not as thrilled as the young people on these forums about the proposed induction of the LCA.Even after 30 years of research and billions of dollars spending they have produced nothing but just failed project like LCA, ARJUN, BRAHMOS and others many.
AmericanRaptor1 1 year ago
There is no comparison between a flying eagle (JF-17) and a vulture's baby (LCA) sitting in its nest since 1982. IAF has announced that LCA (LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT) won't be operational before 2015 (not sure). Whereas PAF will have 250 JF-17 by 2015 and then from 2015 to onward PAF will have JF-17 Block II and stupid Indians trying to compare it with their failed LCA. lol
Askywarrior 1 year ago
@Askywarrior
Eagle, it is a insect, rofl. TEJAS IS the bright light you see before your deadth, THE RADIANCE! Your insects will not even fly, better store them so that you can sell them in the junk yard. With higher prices in Karachi, you might get a good deal there! POrki cunt fucks!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
This is so gay fighter, even Bangladesh rejected it, so much for the "high tech" in this TIN BOX, hahahhahaha. Bangaldesh Said, "no thank you" and bought MIG 20's hahahha. This tin box isn't going anywhere. Oh, that Junk Fighter-10 has crashed 3 times already, COFFINNNNNNNN already but a new one, porkies salivation to get a new coffin, hahahha, IAF so happy, hahha SHAME SHAME!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
History Shows That There is no Glory in IAF since its Birth.... where as PAF History and even present is full of Glorious Victories... IAF is just batter then PAF in terms of Numbers... Other wise world knows which air force is Famous for Having Flying Coffins. And a clear example is Development of JF-17 from Pakistan/Chine and the world's most famous LCA - LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT which has proven as a failed project.
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago
@ImFlyingEagle LCA is underdevelopment from more than two decades since its conception; the LCA has yet to reach production status. Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of these tests were also failed and the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests.
Where as JF-17 has been inducted & fully in one squadron and perfumed well during high mark exercise and the most recent PAK-CHINA air force exercise.
Howard0Hughes 1 year ago
@Howard0Hughes Not only does the PAF a wide range of modern aircraft but it now also has indigenous capability to develop planes and drones. In light of the failures of the LCA and missile program, the Indians are schocked by the speed in which the JF-17 Thunder and Pakistani missiles were developed.
aviatormikehunter 1 year ago 23
@aviatormikehunter
Yup, ADA is "shocked" that the TIN BOX actually flies, hahahah, oh yes, we are shocked, hahahahha. take your tin box to a yard sale!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@TheBharath2010 It clearly shows that how frustrated your are the JF-17 is flying high and ur LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT has nope to become operational clearance. Whatever you say i never mind coz it is a natural jealousy that you have. I personally like the model of LCA if it will ever able to fly. (which looks not possible at least before 2010) coz even IAF has announced that first 20 LCAs will be inducted in 2018 with limited capability only (clearly shows it’s a failed one).
Askywarrior 1 year ago
@Askywarrior
I am not frustrated, i enjoy bashing u and ur 4 other clown identities. More so, you should be frustrated, poor thing, u disguise yourself with 4 identities, yet u get recognized and get fucked up royally. I mean How fucked up are you any way? Your TIN BOX is a fake, that TIN BOX honestly will NOT go anyway. you paid 15-18 million for that, no avionics, no weapons tested, all you have is WHAT CHINA WANTS YOU TO HAVE! you are such a SLAVE right now. I understand your frustration
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@Askywarrior PAF’s JF-17 project was launched in partnership with China in 1995.In just eleven years and with just $500 million spent, the JF-17 was flying in Pakistani Airspace on March 2007.
The Indian Air Force on the other hand has with significant assistance from France, Israel, and the United States worked on the Tejas (meaning Radiant) LCA project for over two decades and the aircraft is no closer to induction. Infact it gets worse.
TheWarriorsMr 1 year ago
@TheWarriorsMr
If you give USA 1 billion, they will make you a pakistan version of f-16 and put it in your mouth! hahahha. China made and you bought it, SLAVE. So what did you do? DId you u finger your ass and then kept it in your mouth? OH ho, not good, share some with your family members!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@aviatormikehunter LCA is not 100% Indian effort. FBW has British components. Radar is from Israel. Engine is from USA. All these foreign elements may only be for interim use. However, at present. LCA is far from 100% Indian effort and still not able to fly with full operational clearance. LCA is still a problem child for the Indians..... While JF-17 is touching soaring high.
pafsbzkhan 1 year ago
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@pafsbzkhan
Fly by wire is not a componet, you camel piss drinking whore fucked bitch cunt fuck! you madarsasa moron! by product of inbreeding! You donkey fucked whore! JF_17 is touching the ass of a DONKEY. That TIN BOX will fall from the sky like an insect. When tejas takes to the air, ur pilot will try going mach 1.5, but the wings will come off, and he will pasted to the verticle fin like a lizard on the wall. ROFL Tejas toasts J-10 and this TIN BOX. Do not say the same thing porki!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
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@pafsbzkhan
Fly by wire is not a component, you camel piss drinking whore fucked bitch cunt fuck! you madarsasa moron! by product of inbreeding! You donkey fucked whore! JF-17 is touching the ass of a DONKEY. That TIN BOX will fall from the sky like an insect. When Tejas takes to the air, ur pilot will try going mach 1.5, but the wings will come off, and he will pasted to the verticle fin like a lizard on the wall. ROFL Tejas toasts J-10 and this TIN BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@pafsbzkhan
Same answer everywhere, how sorry is your life? ROFL. You cannot defend TIN BOX, you are such a loser, hey asshole, wear a suicide jacket and blow yourself, ROFL. hahahah. Your tin box going anywhere and that J-10 already crashed 3 times. TEJAS rules POrkies SKY allllllllllll the time
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@pafsbzkhan LCA will never get to fight in the air.Coz even after 25 years it is struggling with its engine which is the heart of any plan.LCA is an aircraft which is denied by the air force which it was made for.India is solving the puzzle, about 8 of them for the museum.Right now it has no hope.
While JF-17 is fully operational and used in high mark 2010, North Waziristan operation and PAK, China, Malaysia, Turkey Joint air exercises 2010. Thats what you call a successful aircraft.
flanker35su 1 year ago
@flanker35su
Yawwmm you are talking about TIN BOX right. Off course TIN BOX will not fly when TEJAS takes to the air. TIn box will have its ass torched like there is no glory. Tejas will enjoy ass fucking that TIN BOX and that NEW COFFIN called j-10.
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
@flanker35su India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. India’s failed LCA is the stuff made for jokes around military headquarters from Brussells to Moscow to Beijing to Washington. India has been trying to produce a plane called the LCA. After a decade of design, Delhi has failed to produce a fully operational plane. The project is years away from its completion.
aviatormikehunter 1 year ago
There is no competition between LCA Tejas and JF-17 Thunder, reason is very much technical. Pakistan already have started the production of JF-17 on ful-scale and its second variant JF-17-2 will be tested in 2011/12 while on another hand LCA is failure, ins’t finalized yet,even after taking 25 years. Due to these problems even IAF is reluctant to induct this plane and now announced that it will be inducted after 2015.
Howard0Hughes 1 year ago
Jf 17 is chinese junk and forget about our plane not pulling the requisite gs. We have the engines now. Ur kind master USA is just dying to do business with us and hence will gibe us its latest ge414 enginge which powers the Super Hornet! No bad huh! Perhaps u forgot that we are buying another 125 planes and the choice is between Eurofighetr typhoo, rafael, gripen, F16I, Super Hornet and the MiG 35. Enjoy ur 3.5gen chinese junk while we move into the 4.5 era. HAHAHAHA!
rohanramesh123 1 year ago
As of right now Tejas is inferior to JF-17. The underbelly weight of Tejas limits its speed and ordnance carrying capacity. Small nose intakes limit its high speed manoeuvrability. Hal is trying to fix that problem but nobody knows how long its going to take. JF 17 has a higher air to ground capability. Above all JF-17 is a fully operational fighter jet where as LCA is still underdevelopment and failed in many essential tests. The biggest problem is its Engine.
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago
ADA has taken too long to develop the Tejas. A 25 years lead time to develop a fighter aircraft is unrealistic.The IAF was never enthusiastic about inducting LCA. The aircraft's combat performance was dismal and so was its weapon load and Engine problem.Its high pressure hydraulic system has frequent failures and its engine and fbw systems has serious defects. During its prototype tests the LCA prototypes were grounded for many months on many occasions.It has failed in many flight tests.
flanker35su 1 year ago
@flanker35su update ur info idiot.......IAF changed their specifications many time ........that's the main problem apart from the failure of kaveri engine....but tejas is not a bad fighter ......and now equipped with GE-414 engines and armes with astra BVR missiles......it can fuck any fighter
TheArko1490 1 year ago
Fuck Off, No knowledge on military Aircraft.
chex29 1 year ago
The 500th Flying Coffin of the Indian Airforce crashed a few weeks ago. This marked a world record for any Airforce. No other Airforce in the world has had so many crashes. Pilot error, equipment malfunction or just pure incompetence has led to this ignominious award to the IAF. Another example of incompetence is LCA (LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT). The Indian LCA has been in development for more than a decade with no output. In normal circumstances this would be considered a failed project.
fighterpilot65 1 year ago
@fighterpilot65 what an idiot u r ....we didn't loose 500 flying coffins which are called to MiG-21s moreover it's totally wrong that IAF faced more crashes than any other air force ....but for ur kind info IAF lost abt 365 MiG-21 planes in crashes out of 962 deployed since 1962..it's better than the german luftwaffe which lost 263 aircrafts out of abt 650 F-102 starfighters deployed .........it can be 500 if u take account of all the fighters and wars too ...in that case US lost more than us
TheArko1490 1 year ago
There is no comparison between LCA and JF-17. JF-17 Is fully operational and LCA is almost a Failed project. Many experts believe that JF-17/FC-1 is more in a competition with MiG-29 only it being a single engine & since IAF the only threat to Pakistan/PAF has large number of MiG-29s the JF-17 would fit right in the PAF. JF-17s can provide a greater defence against them aswell as take on MiG21, MiG-27, Jaguars etc (excluding Su-30MKI & may be Mirage2000H aswell).
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago
@ImFlyingEagle LCA is not a failed project ....it's engine program was the only failure but now it is getting the advance GE-414 engine from US .......moreover if JF-17 is soo techie then why china is reluctant to produce it in mass for it's airforce.???it's nth but a flying toy made by china for it's paki frnds who can only afford such filthy toys........and u r comparing that toy with MiG-29 eh???? then listen mate MiG-29 can perform pugachyev's cobra maneuver which JF-17 can only dream off
TheArko1490 1 year ago
There is no comparison between LCA and JF-17. JF-17 Is fully operational and LCA is almost a Failed project.
Many experts believe that JF-17/FC-1 is more in a competition with MiG-29 only it being a single engine & since IAF the only threat to Pakistan/PAF has large number of MiG-29s the JF-17 would fit right in the PAF. JF-17s can provide a greater defence against them aswell as take on MiG21, MiG-27, Jaguars etc (excluding Su-30MKI & may be Mirage2000H aswell).
bestfighterpilot 1 year ago