China fights to reclaim art from Yves Saint Laurent auction

[ryn207]

Its a big mistake to be screwing china now, they are growing very fast and a lot of countries own them debt just look in the case when the Japanese arrested an Chinese captain at sea, China demand him return home and they got him home how? They stop trade going into Japan which Japan needs, we will see what happens if China stops trading with the French.

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

Those European and French bastards! Absolutely no respect or shame for selling relics that aren't even theirs. Stolen and pillaged as spoils of an imperialistic campaign. As if the French weren't satisfied with their own great structures and art, they seem to be obsessed with ancient cultures and in a strange narcissistic kind of way, often take measures to ingratiate themselves with culture that isn't their own as a means of claiming it as their own.

[USAownsUrAss]

btw china is cool. my girlfriend is chinese, though she was brought up San Francisco where I live as well. Greetings to my chinese friends :)

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

In fact, the French are among the worst that Europe has to offer. In the colonial past they were quite imperialistic, but due to their own folly, lost possession of a large portion of territory they laid claim to. Having learned from the failures of the past and the inherent ineptitude of their military, France took a seemingly neutral position in the world wars, which was really just a charade, because France would often side with whichever nation that appeared to be the victor.

[knucklhed]

you have no idea... do some research before you spout. The french were never neutral. WWI was fought largely on french soil - they lost about 1.5 million soldiers fighting the germans you fool. And actually declared war on germany in WWII. Vichy (not vinci) france represented fascist elements (that exist in everycountry). They swept to power after the nazis conquered france - the recriminations at the end of the war were severe. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. wake up idiot

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

I concede your point. My assertions were based on generality and not well substantiated. I appreciate your clarification. Thanks-

[knucklhed]

i'm impressed by your response. Your humility was not what i was expecting. I apologise for getting personal in my reply.. sometimes it's too easy given the anonimity of the internet. well handled.

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

I truly feel for the Chinese in this particular case, and find the selling of their relics by foreigners to be absolutely reprehensible. My background is Mexican; however, similar to the Chinese, many Meso-American artifacts have been taken to Europe from the time of the Spanish Conquest of many territories in the Western Hemisphere. Like the Chinese, many Meso-American and other artifacts from elsewhere in the world can be found scattered throughout various countries in Europe.

[whatsinthatbox]

@USAownsUrAss

Your girlfriend is a fool for dating a moron like you.

[3muzic]

AmericanSuperNUt...........are you retarded or something???????????? Why are you so negative about what people said about these. U dont apply change on others before you change yourself!!!!!!!!! i certainly hope that you get some help.................i empathized you........

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

The French along with the English & to a lesser extent The Germans, have taken several relics from noteworthy civilizations around the world and have presented them in

"their" museums and collection houses. To be kept or disposed of according "their" whims and fancies. The audacity of these French "fashion" moguls in proposing to sell these Chinese relics is the epitome of grand larceny and contraband trafficking.

[3muzic]

i totally agreed with you. They were barbaric & stole other countries wealth....sadly until today

[hcn9]

look how many white honky and nigger pedos there are in the US and austrailia. u rape children in ur country and then u rape children oeverseas. i bet u are a fuckin child molester too

[hcn9]

and u from austrailia? if so, LOOL at those dead muthafuckas in the austrailian fires. i hope they burned real good ahahha. guess how the fire started? from a blast of wind from my ass.

[hcn9]

LOL during the 9/11. osama pwned u yanks with just 4 planes hahaha. LMAO when they were screamin "O my god!" with their funny american accents. the whole of US was shittin their diapers ahaha. ill piss on the graves of every dead american. LOL at those dead yanks in vietnam. LOL at the assassination of kennedy, that nigger luther king and macolm x. they deserved it. LOL at the niggers in hurican katrina. LOL at those americans shooting themselves everyday. LOL at those 10 dead bitches in alabama

[hcn9]

and i cant wait to LOL when someone shoots dead that big lip nigger obama

[hcn9]

LOL when those muthafuckas were jumping out the twin towers like superman or spiderman was gonna cath em ahaha. they prolly screamin "help me superman!". i laughed when the towers collapsed ahaha!

LOL at those american soldiers gettin their head chopped off in the middleeast. LOL at them american soldiers made into human fireworks and blown the fuck up. LOL at those niggers in hurricane katrina. the hurricane came to sweep the shit off the floor. LOL at those yanks killin eachother with guns

[3muzic]

AmericanNUT.............from all your comments i guess you have a sad & pathetic childhood day. This is because when an individual said all the negative things..it reflected that he or she had a very bad childhood day e.g. are you raped by your step father, relatives or neighbors???????? Are you being brought up normally by your parents or you lacked in parental guidance???????? Kindly seek help from a MENTAL DOCTOR.......

[3muzic]

AmericanSuperpower............­...wow you seems to show us that you have similar traits like your ancestors....i.e. RUDE, BARBARIC, UNREFINED, NO CULTURE, SHALLOW MIND & PSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!!!! in your mind even Sichuan earthquake to you is a joke??????????? You are very SICK!!!!!!!!!

[hcn9]

dont lie. u americans raped and killed so many iraqis in just 6 years. u bloodthirsty honkey muthafuckas. stop drinking the blood of innocent women and children. btw ur soldiers make very good fireworks.

[hcn9]

bloodthirsty americans murdered more than 1 millions iraqis. ur soldiers deserve to get blown the fuck up like fireworks. 9/11 is what u fuckin deserve for fuckin with the middleeast

[USAownsUrAss]

what absolute nonsense hcn9. you have no clue what ur talking about. We barely killed any Iraqi's, they all killed themselves during the sectarian violence that ensured after we lifted the oppressive and brutal grip of their dictator. Iraq now really has a chance of democracy and prosperity, although it is completely up to them if they take it or not. If they continue to blow themselves up and kill their counterparts then there is little we can do. Lets hope they seize this opportunity

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

A case in point is Vinci France diplomatically surrendering and secretly siding with Nazi Germany during World War II. The French as have the English, are historically known for their pomp and arrogance in their approach toward the rest of the world. Thinking themselves to be more cultured and sophisticated than their international counterparts. The fact that these shameless scoundrels are attempting to capitalize on these items speaks volumes about the reality of "French Chivalry."

[Lunatic4Bizcas]

Also, as with the Chinese relics, a good portion of Meso-American artifacts have remained in Europe and have not been returned to their countries of origin. I hope the just thing happens and the Chinese government is able to get these relics returned, which are rightfully theirs in the first place.

[3muzic]

AmericanNUt........or perhaps psycho....i advise you to read more in order to gain simple knowledge or common sense before you comment on others. A person without "grey matter" who has a loud mouth is a FOOL!!!

[3muzic]

AmericaSuperpower....i guess after reading all the comments from others about you...........had summed up to me that you are a psycho & a person that is retarded about USA being a superpower. Just to give you some common sense....America of what she is today owed not to only one nation but an accumulation of efforts from races like Asians, Europeans, Red Indians, Latin Americans, Blacks and other races.... You should changed your nickname to 'WHITES SUPERPOWER' instead.

[3muzic]

AmericanSuperpower....or perhaps psycho....i advise you to read more in order to gain simple knowledge or common sense before you comment on others. A person without "grey matter" who has a loud mouth is a FOOL!!!

[3muzic]

AmericaSuperpower...yes we are intelligent to spot a BARBARIAN like you. Underneath your atrocious name lies a pathetic, weak, baseless, and perhaps psycho like you!!!

[3muzic]

AmericanSuperpower.....you are very rude & similar traits to your ancestors...BARBARIC!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!! You shown low IQ, low EQ & not refined in mannerism or basic etiquette. I wont comment anything if i were you because you havent been to Tibet.

[zzmly]

where are you from?if you are a American, you don't have any right to say about china and Tibet. My grandfather was a slave, and Dalai lama is a slaveholder. I hated Dalai lama, he is just liar to the world. Chinese government is giving money to Tibet region government to rebuild and maintain temple every year. Have you been to Tibet?Why you make a liar to others? Just SHUT UP,OK?

[Regicide1990]

disillusioned: to free or deprive of illusion.

haha, i am sure you mean deluded,

anyway, cite your sources if you can. what you provided is hearsay, not evidence.

by the way, there is no "have a nice day" expression in chinese. the next time you want to use it, you might want to put this into consideration

[codecc88]

keep the lousy stolen pieces. who needs them. China should just dump all US treasuries so redneck know nothing white trash like you will be begging for a job. USA is basically bankrupt so stop talking like you own the world you ignorant airhead. America is the world's biggest debtor nation and China is the world's biggest creditor. Tibet has been a part of China for over 700 years and will be forever. You can take your racist rant and shove it where the sun don't shine you redneck racist.

[zzmly]

shut up!white trash!

I am a Tibetan Chinese. We are happy to belong to part of China. It's no business with you westerner.

[shane2406]

you redneck just dont understand

[hcn9]

why u repeating the same thing?

[hcn9]

wait....are u saying that to be white u have to eat babies, aborted foetus, and even eat penis of animals? so does that mean white ppl eat them? LOOOOL. so basically what u are saying is that chinese ppl have to be disgusting in order to be white. ahahaha u are saying that white ppl are fuckin disgusting well i do agree with u there

[hcn9]

how da fuck would u look white from eating babies? this an example why white ppl are stupid

[hcn9]

free children from being molested by poor honkeys

[hcn9]

free that poor child u hid in ur basement u honkey child molester

[hcn9]

free children from white honkey child molesters like u

[hcn9]

fuck u white cum face honkey. stop drinking the blood of women and children in the middleeast. u fuckin white child molester

[hcn9]

give back america to natives! free iraq! free afghanastan! end america's evil empire!

[hcn9]

*sigh" another dumb white guy who dont know shit about china's history. ok how about u white ppl in america give the land back to the natives and fuck off back to europe. after u do that then u can talk about tibet

[massivetuber]

Looters.

[hcn9]

u fuckin white honkey. u still raping iraqis in iraq?

[clearner123]

You don't know anything about the history of Tibet nor do you speak the language or visited Tibet.

I know based on your comment.

[stevenkoalae]

It's quite apparent that you people don't understand what's going on. Looting a palace is not as same as counterfeit. If you want to argue, please at least learn at bit about the topic first! Also, try to put yourself in other people's shoes for a sec. Black and white is not as simple as it seems.

[3muzic]

Western counterparts conquering other countries are worst scenarios as compared to domestic problem of a so-called "highly dramatic" belief in Tibet

[3muzic]

I have never met His Holiness So many people are all drawn on his inspiration from his life example and felt protected by him in whatever they do because their minds have been opened up by his teaching. But let me get it straight..the Old Dalai Lama did not stay in Tibet but some other country. He did not encounter any sufferings from riots, lock-ups & oppression in Tibet. If he stay on in Tiber then i admire him..if not he is just an old & cunning FOX

[frolicdetour]

Would you stayed as well if someone pointed a gun to your head, fool?

[3muzic]

frolicdetour..i guess u r a the greatest FOOL......dont address this question to me!!! Address these questions to the Western countries who conquered, forced religions on others, stole, raped , looted the other countries wealth & land. I think u r rather stupid

[hcn9]

"Would you stayed as well if someone pointed a gun to your head, fool?"

he never had a gun to his head. idiot...

[Regicide1990]

to people who claimed that chinese government supports counterfeiting, evidence please.

[Stridus7]

free Tibet first and then they can have their stupid heads

[hcn9]

free tibet? how about free ur mama's pussy from my dick.

[Stridus7]

like you dumb dirty chinese even have a dick to brag about.

[hcn9]

my dick still fucked ur mama so hard she felt like virgin again

[Stridus7]

how cute, anything esle you stupid bitch

[hcn9]

yea go fuck ur daddy up his ass

[fenwaystroll]

Agree with Alieev. You cannot support China when they themselves are be biggest thieves. Take your own medicine for stealing other's livelihood and possessions before crying like a baby- now China knows how it feels to have stuff ripped off.

[whenwhen3]

They steal culture from the Japanese and Koreans---biggest joke ever! lol

! speakless. Juno84x, you should feel shamed! how old r u?

[xJuno84x]

The Chinese pirate technology from all major software companies. They steal billions from the entertainment studios with their pirated dvd's and cd's. They counterfit EVERY major luxury brand product - watches, clothes, purses, etc.

They trample on the human rights of their neigbors and their own citizens. They steal culture from the Japanese and Koreans.

NOW, they want their statues back?!

They want "RESPECT?"

LOL!!!

[3muzic]

They steal culture from the Japanese and Koreans.??????????/ Oh boy, u better read up your history!!!!! You are not very intellectual..it seems

[fenwaystroll]

Definitely agree with XJune. China is a hypocrite. It mass counterfeits everything under the sun from other nations' "national treasures," and when two items are removed from its soil, it cries like a baby. Return the billions you stole from YSL via counterfeiting in the black markets, hypocrites.

[whenwhen3]

French, lol, remind me how the whole french act after German invade your country! what a whole crap losers!

[bruinnumberone]

If China misses the two relics so much, it should counterfeit millions of them, like it has no problems mass producing the Chanel and LV lines, along with everything else that is infringed and violated against.

[saimneor]

French shameless

[Butongpaistudent]

france = a country of Thiefs

[fenwaystroll]

YSL: "I bought the pieces because they compliment the color of my bidet in the guest room of my chateau. The set is a fine addition, and I feel protected. It is little consolation for the many millions I lost over the years to the Chinese counterfeit of my products."

[3muzic]

HUMAN RIGHTIST "Most branded items were sold so expensively.....way more expensive that their cost of production. Thanks to deflation that these branded items prices free fall to its bottom or true value. Most companies of these sorts are hypocrites by PAYING SO LOW WAGES to these workers AND SELLING THE ITEMS SO COSTLY to the public. So what human rights or equality are you talking about?advanced countries people are so damn lazy, that the companies have to look 4 cheap labor overseas

[bruinnumberone]

Does not justify China's stealing other nations' products via counterfeiting and trademark violations. Stop crying over two relics when you have been mass producing everything under the sun of other countries' "national treasures," China.

[Dumacongsanvn]

If you labor a week to write a book, and someone copies from your book, you would be irate, would you not? Companies invest million on R&D, and no one should hold a free reign to counterfeit at will anything of profit value. China should not cry over this issue since it is the greatest transgressor of stolen properties, be it intellectual or agrarian.

[3muzic]

So what say you on the Western counterparts that caused aggression on others by stealing, looting, forced religion on others, conquering others & made the locals 2nd class citizens? So what say you when western companies manipulated, exploited human rights by offering low wages to other countries' workers and sold costly branded items to others? Mind you most of the branded items were manufactured not in your home ground.

[bruinnumberone]

Stop the whining, China. since you think it is okay for you to loot other countries, like Tibet; but anything taken from you, you cry stolen "national treasures;" as if other nations do not have "national treasures" of their own that need to be returned to its rightful place. Return Bill Gates' billions that you illegally counterfeited through piracy; return the French labels you mass produced for the black markets. What a bunch of hyprocrites.

[3muzic]

well someone should return to Steve Jobs of Apple the billions that were illegally taken from him....a clue.... that is from his own countryman, if u done enough reading. It certainly touched your emotions when China done counterfeits, historically China was a great inventor of most gadgets & devices used by the world at this modern times. The western counterparts stole these ideas & made them theirs. So????

[fenwaystroll]

There are rules and laws of nations, and when the rules are not abided by, you should be held accountable. Nations have agree to comply with copyright and trademarks, so they must live by them- not incessantly counterfeiting products as if there is no tomorrow. Viva France- it is time China taste its own medicine.

[bruinnumberone]

France should piss on the statuette or stick them down the bidet, because that is what China has down with the "national treasures" of France- LV and Chanel, to name a few.

[tib080808]

As a Chinese, I don't care who owns these relics.

As a French, this is a permanent branding of thief on your forehead. There is a common understanding on how to handle stolen goods. France, thanks for showing the whole world what French really is. Remember how Brits called/shown you when they win the war? Haha, way to go, French.

[3muzic]

Western countries on ancient times terrorized, conquered, enslaved, forced their religion on the locals, looted, stole, and occupied so many countries. Now all these treasures are found in their museums, auction houses, houses and even paved in their cities. So dont even mentioned anything about HUMAN RIGHTS, UNFAIRNESS & TERRORISM because your fore fathers have cunningly done so.

[3muzic]

Admiral Zheng He was the best explorer in the world sailing the 7 seas with the objectives of gathering knowledge, trading & seeking tribute for the emperor. Its so civilized, as during those days China was at her glory & peak. China came out with so many inventions that contributed so much to todays' living. But most western counterparts imitated by modifying the inventions & declared theirs. So dont make a fuzz when China today produced your imitation goods...OK??????????/

[3muzic]

They are really thieves in the making. Now even China are bailing out these western counterparts financially caused by their greed, unsound financial measures etc. For goodness sake, please be civilized to return the bronze heads of the Rat & Rabbit to the Summer Palace. Please return all the treasures and relics to the other countries like Egypt, India and most of the common wealth countries. Thank You!!!

[bruinnumberone]

How about a trade China? I swap your precious rabbit and rat for the Tibetan prayer scrolls you stole from our Dalai Lama's monestary- along with our land, homes, freedom, and humanity you took from us? Fair?

[nikkich01]

China consider Tibet to be part of its territory for centuries and Tibetans are Chinese citizens. Tibetans are given many advantages over Han majority. Their lives will improve as China rises. Too bad the Dalai Lama and his followers chose to leave, otherwise they will all be enjoying a peaceful and prosperous life in China now.

[bruinnumberone]

What is the big deal about losing a rat and bunny statuettes? The Chinese are masters of making counterfeit items. No one will know the difference if they replicare the items the French now has. You have no problem counterfeiting French products for years, and now you have the gall to complain that they "stole" from China? How many fake Chanel bags have the French cry over?

[3muzic]

How about a trade? You should address these issues to those who conquered, forced their religions on others, enslaved, stole, looted, raped, and deprived the locals from their homes, their cultures, their rights, freedom, etc. A hypocrite cannot called others hypocrites whereby he or she is one themselves. Just like "a kettle calling a pot black"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fenwaystroll]

Then I suppose China does not deserve to get anything back because they themselves are thieves.

[swyfly1974]

I hate France from now on

[valeriochang]

If I was the Chinese Government, I would commission new pieces of artwork to be place in the renovated palace.

This would signify that the country is

1) looking forward rather than backward

2) ready to sponsor a new era of creativity

3) tell the world that "Keep what we can't take back, but if you want to see what China is now, you will have to come to Beijing"

[clearner123]

Auctioned for 14 million Euros each to anonymous phone bidders. They did not announce the winners, but I am almost positive it was purchased by Chinese. Invaded China because they didn't want your Opium, stole Chinese artifacts in demand for political reasons is RANSOM.

Trade Tibet for 28 million Euros? How dumb is he to make a statement like that? Pierre Berge made a bad move, bye bye to Chinese business for him.

[bizinesu]

I believe the modern French.

[siddharthaananda]

sure, cry out about human rights as much as they will, but stealing is still stealing.

western shitheads, they invaded from country to country, enslaved people, initiated the wws, started discriminations, and now stealing????

nice face, westerners, "punish" people by stealing, considering all of the "deeds" you've done in the past decades to asians. Moral much?

good luck on your war against islamic extremists. Hope they'd kill you all.

[massivetuber]

No one is charged with possession of stolen goods, unbelievable.

[valeriochang]

Time is the main problem here 150 years... the debts of the father shouldn't be passed onto the son.

[bizinesu]

It is the thing which is important for Japan.

Please put it back to the Orient.

I speak to a French heart.

[crumpetgirl]

I hate the conscienceless thieves.

[tibetisalreadyfree]

Tibet is free, forever free from Dalai, the dog of French perverts!

Fuck Dalai and French gays!

[tibetisalreadyfree]

Fcuk French Gays and Lesbians!

French are ass holes! Fuck their asses!

[clearner123]

Tibetan Monasteries were nothing but priests that fraud its own people Turning the Tibetan people into slaves for their own benefit. Controlling people through faulty religious actions. Punishing its peasant slaves for questioning the authority. Manipulating its people to worship the Priests. Punishment can be death.

Melt them down?!?!?! That is nonsense! The French don't have the balls. If they did, you can guarantee complete ban of any future business with China, vice versa.

[iamlumin]

Bullshit! You mean like now is so good? Chinese officials have announced that Tibet is on lock down. People being arrested because they refuse to join in New Year's celebration. Give me a break! Chinese are exploiting Tibet everyday of the week. You cling to your concept about the monasteries as a way to rationalize the invasion, occupation, exploitation and oppression of my people and my country.

[nikkich01]

Westerners are just using the Tibetans as an excuse to demonise China. Chinese government spend millions to preserve minority cultures. The rise of China means the rise of other Asian cultures as well.

[iamlumin]

That's funny! It may surprise you to know that most people in the US don't think in terms of East vs. West, nor do that concern themselves with the rise or fall of others. They're too busy living. Tibetans are not Chinese, never have been and never will be. Now I suppose you're going to tell me what I am, what my family is, what my ancestors were, etc.

[bruinnumberone]

Yes, one would invest money sprucing up a place to welcome tourists after robbing and exiling the rightful residents blind. You speak as if a group of people happily uprooted and left on their own. I too would leave if a gun was pointed in my direction.

[goldenkey007]

lamlumin

A prominent Indian journalist on Wednesday rejected Tibetan independence "propaganda", saying the region's economic growth was good and atmosphere was "relaxed". "Problems are largely in the minds of some sections abroad, 'make-believe Tibet', and the propaganda of the pro-independence movement of Dalai Lama," Narasimhan Ram, editor-in-chief of The Hindu, told Xinhua on Wednesday.

[iamlumin]

So what! If it were a Western journalist making a different claim then you'd be demonizing him. Relaxed, um, tell that to the family of the young man who was beaten to death by Chinese police three weeks ago. Tell that to the hundreds who have been detained during the "strike hard" campaign because they refuse to celebrate the new year. I also have contact with a friend in the travel business and she's been advised to not make any plans until the end of April.

[vlcx26]

Shame on u,French bandit!

[banzaidawan]

No honor among Thieves.

[bizinesu]

Please return it to China.

[Bloodlovefreak]

Fuck the French theives!

[EdT586]

F**kin filthy crooks !