Great musical composition and voice. However, why attack religious people with stereotypes and caricatures of them in the video? It's rather hypocritical to stereotype a whole group of people because some of them are bad. There have been bad people from all groups, including atheists.
For a good atheist song that doesn't fall into this us vs. them, antagonistic mentality regarding believers search robbie fulks and see watch God isn't Real
Thank you AtheistSongs !!! Recently left mormon church after 40 years of delusion - it's nice to be a free-thinker. Good to see Hitchens and Dawkins included in your slides. I will miss Hitchens - someone who would not be bullied by religion.
Love the song. Im agnostic and love the sound of your music.Not just the lyrics either.Like the voice and instruments and tempo-everything.Subscribing now.
Well done! I bought "The God Delusion about three years ago." I have been an atheist for over 30 years. But only recently have I "come out of the closet."
New atheists need to calm down and absorb their new perspective. The worst aspect of the new atheism is the degree to which it has copied fundamentalism - treating those who disagree as evil (not wrong), assigning morality based on religious opinion, proselytizing, creating "movement" songs, atheist conventions, celebrating Darwin's birthday,,, It's all so...utterly religious. LOL
Atheists comfortable with their decision don't worry about converting the world to non-belief.
Your statement only ring true if cars are real. You analogy is inaccurate, it should read..."is is wrong for me to tell someone the beware of pink flying unicorns when crossing the steer"...get it now?!?
Tearing down things that others consider truth is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel..I dont think its wrong or bad to fear something.. If i tell a boy to stay out of the street cause he could get runover by a car and one day he crosses without a problem,.should he write songs about what a joke it was to fear cars killing him??
Organised religion is no different to any other cult...its just that it is worldwide and wrapped up in very strong symbolism/history. It's been around for so long and so many belive it...it must be right? WRONG.
To the guy who made this video - congratulations on freeing yourself. I genuinely wish you well and live the remainder of your life free of guilt, anxiety and torment. Life is beautiful...and you certinaly dont need people telling you to LOVE and FEAR someone in equal measure.
Good job. In my videos I just drone on in a monotonous voice about the religious delusion, but I think music makes a larger impact in the long run. Keep it up, you make good music.
you really spot on with the lyrics...my life is so fucked up because i believe so much in so called "god" and his angels...at the end of the day...i am the one who live my life...i am the master of my own life...!!!
@YELLOMELLO1O1 And when we both are wrong ALLAH is going to torture us with boiling water, and other assortments for eternity... and when me you and the muslims are wrong, Zues will send us to the underworld... which isn't that bad actually...
God tell's us to do things for a reason even if we don't understand what it is his word does not have to make since cause eevrything he does in the end is for the good of mankind and we don't kill ever heard of God's comandment Thou Shalt Not Kill!
@TheJesusfreak2008 If "God tell's you to do things" then you are suffering from a very severe type of mental illness. If any fantasy-based creature is "instructing you" then you should seek medical attention right away. This is abnormal and a hallmark of several of the worst mental disorders we know about. Best of luck to you.
@TheJesusfreak2008 What?! Thou Shalt Not Kill? Then who the hell started the Crusades? And so much other bloodshed started by Christianity over time, including WWII. All of the people that have died because of religious nuts like you, and you say, on the very same planet, that you don't kill. Just keep advocating for murder. By the way, I saw your O.J. Simpson sign right next to your Jesus sign on the lawn. Keep thinking they're both innocent. That's sarcasm, by the way.
@YELLOMELLO1O1 Didn't you learn anything by the utter foolishness and disgrace of Harold Camping? Haven't you hear of the stupid Pascal's Wager? Which god should I bet on?
@Denrnr Thanks for the really warm comment. YOU rock! I am writing more songs...and hopefully be back in the studio soon to record. Peace to you and yours.
I haven't been on in awhile & get on to find these negative comments still coming my way. Yes, i believe in God. I believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross not only for me but for you also. But thats my belief. I will not shove my beliefs down your throat nor do i appreciate yours being shoved down mine. I am 15 years old and have been given so many gifts from God. I preach at my church, nothing hostile towards atheist, but the truth that the end is near. Get close to God while you still can.
@HayBug1402 God is a lie made up to control you. When you grow up you will realize this and devote your life to ending the damage that these fake gods and religions do to our world. Glad you're hear and begining your awareness...you don't know it yet but just by being on my song you are starting to open your eyes to their lies. Rebel now...become smarter then they are...become real...embrace science and truth, not mythical creatures like "jesus" and the other gods.
@AtheistSongs Actually, by being on your song is in NO way me opening up my eyes to your beliefs. I will never believe the same way you do and thats okay. I was actually listening to a song pertaining to my beliefs and you had commented on it stating your beliefs. That is the only thing that brought me to comment on your song. My beliefs are my own & your's are your own. Some people pretend to be Christians & push people away from God. I am not one of those people. God will never give up on you.
@HayBug1402 this man is hurt and is fired with zeal because his Christianity doesn't suit him any more -there is a world outside of Christianity, but as long as you know that the basic beliefs of all world religions are those of The One, the harm comes when we need to terrorise our fellows because of their beliefs. If Christianity suits you, you live it xo Be true to yourself sweetie xo
@Sheaswoman I know God is real, not because of what people have told me or what i was pushed to believe. I believe in God because once i was saved i had spiritual experiences that there is no way i could have possibly experienced them without God. I have been baptized in the Holy Ghost multiple times and i can only hope everyone can have the same experiences I did because it is the best feeling in the world. Thank you.
@HayBug1402 You're 15 not even aware of your surroundings let alone the gruesome history of Religon. You going to tell us the god of the old testament wasn't crazy? Thats what you think loves you?
@zinnington Actually, thats what I KNOW loves me, our God never changes. The laws simply changed because we were unable to live by the with our sin nature.
@HayBug1402 No, god told people to kill and rape the daughters of the people they killed, according to the old testament. If god told them to kill families and then rape the daughters and mothers in the old testament, the god today is the same one who told them to do that...
@HayBug1402 I'm also 15, and a few weeks ago I started checking out the atheists arguments against god, and honestly, christians aint got nothing on 'em. There is no god, sorry man, it's just to control us. The god of the bible is an immoral dick, you should try to check what it really says. if you won't bother to read through the whole bible, just check out theevilbible(.)com remove the ( and )
@HayBug1402 Hey brother, dont take all of what he said literally. He is just experiencing life differently in his own form of god which is perfectly fine for his plane in evolution. You can love and experience god any way in your chooseing. God is not your lord or king or master, hes everything... your part of god, you are god. Think of it as if all the water inside a container or bucket is you but.. your experience is the one of many billions of individual holes that are in the buckets sides.
@1CreEpZz This bucket is spilling water and the water is landing making its own river and you are that river, then your the flow and the rivers and the lakes and water falls and then ocean. Ocean within a raindrop rain drop within an ocean
@1CreEpZz Good luck convincing the religious of that definition of god... Your definition is kinda irrelevant to humanity, it is beautiful but that is all it is... They need to all accept your view, which does not define god as a creator to cause the least harm... And at that point we will be unrestricted in our advancement of our species and can finally work on escaping our doom of getting hit by another galaxy...
@1CreEpZz Okay. I get the metaphorical aspect of what you are saying and it sounds really nice. Although, I think what you are speaking of is that which is normally referred to as life or existence. And no one argues that there are many ways to live and exist. For all I know, particles that are a part of me right now could have been part of many different dinosaurs millions of years ago. And many years into the future, those same particles could be part of an interstellar spaceship! :D
Man created god...all of them...in both form and content...god is clearly a constuct of man...anyone that doesn't see that is either blind by choice (known as faith) or blind by ignorance (brainwashing, false teachings etc.) but either way...blind. To believe any of the god stories, let along make it part of your life, is pitiful and sad. A man of god is really a man being controlled by other men so well he doesn't even know it. Sad. But we can help them out of the delusion.
@AtheistSongs if you take the bible as a documentary of one man's life you will feel disappointed when it is proved wrong -zeitgist (tink it's youtubable) is a good starting point for how Christianity has cherry picked from all that went before it - but to be godless is another scary place x if yu think you are worm food when you pass over, you are a loon. When you learn to cherry pick from world religions, and realise that most of them have summat good to say -you will account for yourself xo
@Sheaswoman Zeitgeist is a very poor place to start. Yes, Christianity has borrowed much from earlier pagan religions but nearly every claim in the movie is demonstrably false. Check out skepticproject (dot) com
@peterpulpitpounder Then why are the only changes or influences on the world, socieity and man all the result of what we do and have nothing to do with a god or 'the gods'? I have been watching the excellent HBO series ROME and in every episode they go into these temples and offer up something to this god or that god to help them with this problem or that problme. It clearly is a silly waste of time but they totally believe it. There is NO difference with the gods today, sorry.
You seem to be looking for a miracle at every turn. Miracles have never been the norm, although God has substantiated His work, will and word over the course of human history with various supernatural acts. The HBO series, of which you mentioned, was clearly dealing with false gods, idols, etc. At this present time God is working through His saving Gospel, having commanded His disciples to "go into all the world and preach..." (See Acts 1:8). That work continues today.
@peterpulpitpounder If there were a jury trial whereby the verdict decided the existence of a god (using the civil procedural standard of preponderance of evidence) without question it would be as follows: "We, the jury, in the case of 'A God v. The Human Race', do hereby unanimously find for The Human Race, that they are in fact free, not guilty of original sin, and no god of any kind has ever been on this earth". Case closed.
No, such a jury would be guilty of gross injustice in sending the perfect Creator to prison, so to speak. The evidence is quite overwhelming. "The heavens declare the glory of God." It didn't just happen by itself. Do you consider matter eternal? I'm assuming you do, being forced to explain all things within a naturalistic framework.
@peterpulpitpounder No, matter is not no eternal. Energy is. And that 'framework' is now being challenged as we learn more about how physics breaks down in other condiitions. God can't be sent to prison, because there is not god(s). Never has been, maybe there will be but that's for another comment. The CONCEPT of god would be found unsubstanciated (remeber, this is a moot CIVIL case). Clearly, based upoin the perponderace of evidence there is no god. To see it any other way you must use
You have a major misconception of the word evidence.
And gods can happen by itself, but universes can't? Here is where your "logic" is flawed.
And there is one more flaw. Even if you disproof science, there would be no way, that this will proof your god. If one theory is falsified there is no reason to believe that the other claim, no matter how stupid, on the same topic is true, despite the fact that there is no evidence to back it up.
My position is: Life came from life and intelligence. Your position is: Life came from non-life, and non-intelligence. The former is logically superior, and I think you realize this. You just refuse to embrace the reality that God exists, and you are accountable to HIm.
Your position isn't "logically superior", how could it? Life comes from life, does not explain anything more then evolution does. And it raises the question where the first life came from. You can't explain that, and that's where your logic has no basis to start from after all.
Science has the big bang as a starting point. You take god for granted. So you assume life and intelligence, the most unlikely things in the universe as starting point for your non-logic.
@peterpulpitpounder Man must now be as intelligent as God since man like God has been able to create life. Man has been geneticly manipulating life for hundreds of years. Man is not accountable to God. Some men beleive they need to make their fellow man accountable to God but fail to fully explain why.
@peterpulpitpounder Funny...If its a few cells called an embryo it "life" and you can touch it...hell, if is a SINGLE cell it "life and you can't touch it...but when man creates "life" (and has many time for many years beyond a stem cell) it's no "life" and doesn't qualify...H-Y-P-O-C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-I-T-Y once again.
So now you have described god, can you please go on and explain god?
Where does he come from for example... that's the question I was refering to.
If god is your answer to the existence of the universe, I want to know where your god comes from.
If you can't give a good answer, which includes no dogma, to this question, you have in no way solved the problem of the existence of the universe, but only pushed the problem farther back.
@1naneRex You clearly have a marvelous economy with words and a depth of fixed opinion that is truly enlightened. You represent the ilk of your Christian brothers and sisters perfectly.
Thus the only one with quivering lips is peterpulpitpounder who can't answer a question and his position is sooo weak that he must represent mine to make his question begging position look better.
@SexyArcanine666 Peter is a surprisingly well educated man. And that is a paradox. He is articulate, educated, knowledgeable and experienced; yet, in spite of this he continues to actually quote the bible! This is very rare. Usually the only time that someone of his caliber has the fall-back position that the bible is real (and it supports that god is real) are those that gain finacially or have a career tied to that position. He REALLY believes in the bible. He thinks it's all real.
@SexyArcanine666 A study was done that surveyed 1000 Catholic priests. They were guaranteed 100% anonymity in taking part and it was double blinded. The survey concluded that almost 40% of the priests NO LONGER BELIEVED IN CHRIST! But the priests felt in their later stages of life that they had no other options to survive financially so they actually stayed "with the company". Talk about having to sell your soul! But Peter is not one of them. He REALLY believes that Jesus is etherial.
This study, however credible, may very well substantiate the veractiy of Scripture. And why do I say this? Well, the BIble clearly states that toward the end of the age, prior to Christ's second coming and reign on earth, there will be a "falling away." It states that "men shall depart from the faith." It states that men will "have a form of godliness," but will deny God. Religous apostasy is to be expected, based on many Bible passages..
@peterpulpitpounder Althought I understand that you think that a god (I guess that would be Jesus) is coming to planet earth to rule the world or what ever he will do is real, I can not comprehend that a fully grown man of very high intelligence and healthy on all front can actually believe this. This is NOT an insult in any way. What I am trying to convey is I, personally, find this to be LITTERALLY the same as Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy. With ALL MY HEART, this is what I see and know.
I would be crippled in my thinking too if I deemed myself a glorified frog. You think exclusively within the sphere of naturalism, and that's your problem. You speak of fairly tales, and yet dogmatically assert the whole molecules to man premise, believing all of life somehow evolved out of nothingness. I'd say that takes more faith than required by the Christian.
Yes, Jesus will return yet again. God special revelation to humanity, the Bible, makes this clear.
Also if peterpulpitpounder had a clue about what he was talking about, he would know that what he is saying is absurd and stupid. There was no "before" the universe because the big bang was the origin of time as we know it. Thus it makes no sense to ask what came before time. And also the universe is ALL of existence which would include his god if there is one. So how could god exist before he exists? I sure do hope is IQ ascends beyond 10.
There is was no "before" the universe? I'd say that's a pretty stupid premise, to say the least. You are claiming that sometihng came from nothing? That's an impossibility. Now, if you want to bring God into the equation, then you can make some sense of all of this, God being the only uncaused cause of the universe, the Creator of all things. It is far more logical to believe in intelligent design than to reject it, despite whatever question marks remain.
Don't get mad at me because I understand physics better than you and I am more educated than you. And it is more logical to reject your design argument since all it rests upon is blind faith and ignorance. LOL An uncaused cause? Perhaps you are the one who needs to learn a little logic, and the laws of logic would be a good start for example the law non contradiction. Oh while I am at it why don't you also study fallacies since you use so many XD
The exercise of human logic has its limitations, especially when it comes to the divinity. God is the only uncaused cause of the universe. God exists outside of time and space. He is imminent (near) to His creation, and yet transcendent (outside) His creation. God has neither abandoned His creation, neither is creation divine (pantheism).
Sorry the laws of logic do not agree with your or your god, and they are 100% correct. So don't tell me to deal with it until you have proven it. Simply repeating your ignorance doesn't make it true.
No, the laws of logic do not support a mere naturalistic explanation to the formation and creation of the world. All of life, male and female, all the complexity, design, diversity and codes somehow created themselves? You believe there was nothing and then there was something? You call that logic? It's not. It's stupidity.
Once again, turn around face God. God is the only answer to it all.
You don't know anything about logic, if you think that believing in a god, will solve any problem. It will only create a new logic problem, the existence of god. The claim for the existence of god is far fetched without any backup in evidence.
Evolution is well understood so far, and it gives all the explanation we need. Combined with physics and chemistry, it is very well capable of explaining everything from the big bang to homo sapiens sapiens.
Prove that there is a god to face. Why do you stutter? Why do your lips quiver when I ask you for evidence? Why don't you present it. I take it you have no evidence and therefore I do not have to believe your idea of god. No evidence no case :0
You made a good point: Human logic has it's limits when dealing with god(s). You are a human I suppose? So how do you think your logic can deal with god(s)? How ignorant of your own words that you are so sure of his existence. Shouldn't you be agnostic since your logic isn't fit for divinity anyway?
And btw. your argument is an axiomatic one, one perfectly descriped in the Münchhausen Trilemma, and proofen as not valid a long time ago by philosophy.
Once again, you are mentally crippled. You've got a bag of lies over your head and cannot see. The world is God's choir, singing the praises of his eternal power and infinite wisdom. And you've resigned yourself to believing all that we see and observe today came into being all on its own, and from nothingness?
He better does not hold it's breath while waiting for it.
And to your question: What are the alternatives?
Bringing god into the equation does not solve your problem, it makes it even bigger, because then you have to explain god. Okay, I got it, you are not willing to explain god, which is not the same as if he needn't be explained. I'm not willing to explain the universe. That's not my job. I'm a biologist. I can explain the living creatures, that's enough for me.
@Chiungalla79 And as scientist we would rather 'know what we don't know' and keep investigating then to 'fill in the blanks' with wish-thinking and myth. Without we men of science we would be living in caves and dying in our thrid decade from dental infections. Man has created everything you see and nature created man. And I should mention along with everything else we created we made gods too...all of them...including yours...and his, and his and his and his and his......
@peterpulpitpounder And as scientist we would rather 'know what we don't know' and keep investigating then to 'fill in the blanks' with wish-thinking and myth. Without we men of science we would be living in caves and dying in our thrid decade from dental infections. Man has created everything you see and nature created man. And I should mention along with everything else we created we made gods too...all of them...including yours...and his, and his and his and his and his......
Also I note that you dodged my questions: Where is your evidence besides your utter ignorance and lack of understanding about science and physics? How do you know that if the universe was designed it was your god and not some other god? Design alone cannot prove that your god exists
How dumb is peterpulpitpounder? He can't think for himself and therefore all he can do is parrot the bible, as if it were credible (which he has not yet proven that it is). All he can do is use question begging assertions and arguments from ignorance because his simple brain cannot think of anything else besides a magical sky daddy. I know kids who are smarter than this and who reason better. How dishonest is he? He has not answered my question and he misrepresents my position. Sad eh?
Also why don't you educate yourself? You seem very ignorant and like a parrot who knows how to do nothing else but to do what they are told. You can start by looking up Hume's objections to the design argument so you can see how useless it is. Then you can go and study science to see how molecules become humans. Unlike you I am educated and know what I am talking about and I know how to reason instead of just quote bible verses
I know plenty of educated people who find the molecules to man premise a laughable fantasy. It's just a nice little idea that provides insulation for people like yourself against the reality of intelligent design and it's moral and spiritual implications. See Hebrews 9:27.
If the best you can do is quote the bible then clearly you have no education. You have no more evidence for your bible than other religions have for their books. So I will ask the one million dollar question again: Where is your evidence? And what moral implications? Can you provide evidence for those too? And also I would like for there to be spirits, but I don't go around believing what feels good, I believe what I can prove. So quit dodging and answer
@peterpulpitpounder I posed a new song called "Credulous Minds" and would be honored if you would listen to it. You will probably not care for the point it makes, but hopefully you will enjoy the solid composition and form.
You mean elementary educated? Im talking about college educated. It is funny how you mock those THREE theories (They are not one theory which shows me that you don't even know what the hell you are talking about) without reading about them or studying them. The fact that you must resort to such dishonesty in favor of your fairy tale shows me that you are a waste of time. Also if you check my channel you will find that you broke several rules of honest debating
@peterpulpitpounder Peter is a surprisingly well educated man. And that is a paradox. He is articulate, educated, knowledgeable and experienced; yet, in spite of this he continues to actually quote the bible! This is very rare. Usually the only time that someone of his caliber has the fall-back position that the bible is real (and it supports that god is real) are those that gain finacially or have a career tied to that position. He REALLY believes in the bible. He thinks it's all real.
One of my favorite verses in the BIble is found in the book of 1 Corinthians. This epistle was written to address a number of problematic issues within this 1st century assembly, one of which was the pride driven pursuit of intellect. The verse states: "He that is wise, let him become a fool, that he truly may become wise." This verse means that the core, the essence, of true wisdom is humility. No human comes close to having all the answers, but God's wisdom is infinite.
I'm sure you are familiar with the old "birds of a feather stick together" proverb. To say that it is rare for an educated person to actually quote the Bible is not only inaccurate, but it seems to indicate your interaction with those you deem "Christian" is quite limited. Oh, and let me also add that your argument that MOST clergy are into the ministry for the sake of financial gain is yet another absurdity. Turn of your TV and stop fixating on wolves in sheep's clothing.
You may be educated, but the content that's been crammed in your brain is from the sewer of vain humanism, and you are obviously extremely gullible to believe our universe and the life within it are purposeless, self-created accidents. It all descended from one atom of unknown origin? Is that what you think? That's pretty stupid reasoning, to say the least.
When you can address the issue and present your evidence, then we can talk. Even if there were no purpose it does not mean that evolution and other theories are any less true. Way to commit the fallacy of appealing to consequence, and of course the strawman. Also I decide my purpose for myself, Im not so dumb that I need a god to tell me my purpose. So when you can answer my question do so. until then these lame comments show how weak your position is.
My "case" has been presented quite clearly. You have embraced the absurd premise that this vast universe in which we reside somehow came into being on its own. And where and how did it all begin? You have no answer beyond the quivering of your lips. There's only one answer, and that answer is GOD, but you refuse to acnowledge the obvious.
Once again, Psalm 14:1 describes your present condition... very bright but very bind.
Once again all your tiny brain can do is quote useless scripture in the form of question begging ad homs to dodge the question at hand, and you have failed to prove that there is a god; instead all you do is make an argument from ignorance. Then you dishonestly put words into my mouth and in the mouth of other scientists. No scientists nor I claim that the universe came into being on it's own. Therefore the only one with quivering lips is your dishonest and stupid self.
@peterpulpitpounder You are basing your beliefs on faith alone. No question about it. And that's OK, but own it. You cannot say that there is evidence all around us, just look. You believe because you choose to. And I can accept that. I disagree but it's your life to live. But remember that a requisite for faith is the willful suspension of critical thinking.
Faith is certainly a critical element to the matter of being a true Christian, but it's not blind or baseless faith. It's not faith in just anyone or anything, etc. You "think" there is no valid reason for believing, when the reality is just the opposite. You asked for "proof" and I submitted the matter of Biblical prophecy. And what was your response? You brought up Nostradamus, who, by the way, never actually predicted anything specific, unlike the Biblical text and prophets.
Actually faith is blind belief. And biblical prophecy? Where is the proof of any prophecy? Your so called prophecies are very vague and not specific at all, next they are predictable, and since the bible was written after these events supposedly happened they are self fulfilling and question begging. So are you going to give us atheists evidence or just stutter like a retard who knows nothing else besides bible versus?
@SexyArcanine666 Hi...Love your comments! I wnated to let you know that I posted a new song, "Credulous Minds" and would love for you to give it a listen, peace my brother...or sister.
Take Isaiah 53 as an irrefutable example of Biblical prophesy. Read it. Ponder its content. Don't feed your brain with liberal commentary, but allow the actual text to speak for itself. It was written hundreds of years prior to Christ's advent and agony. "He was wounded for our transgressions." "It pleased the Lord to bruise Him." "By His stripes we are healed." And this is just a small sampling of the Messianic prophecies contained in the Bible. It's not fabrication.
@peterpulpitpounder How can you say that other prophecies are any less valid or accurate? There are people that firmly believe that other have predicted many more things and with much greater accuracy then the bible by a far margin. Many book written about this. You can't have it both ways and interpret the bible as being true and not afford the same to other works. That is dishonest or flat out bias. For me, except for a few short term political or financial predictions(years)its all lies.
Are without any discerment? Like many others on this forum, you lump dung and gold together and deem it the same. They are not the same. The nature and content of Biblical prophecy is altogether distinct from all others sources. Are you going to put Harold Camping on the same plane as the prophet Isaiah, who clearly and distinctly articulated the coming, life, death, ministry and return of Christ? We aren't dealing with ambiquity or vagueness within the Biblical text.
LOL! When you have met your MASSIVE burden of proof for your bible's absurd stories then we can talk. Until then you have nothing. NO EVIDENCE NO CASE!
When you have evidence and not an argument from ignorance then you can say your god exists. Until then stfu. You need to prove that there was design and there was a designer. Instead all you have is an argument from ignorance that results from a puny IQ. Even if there was design it could still be some other god and not yours. Perhaps it was many gods that made the universe, or no gods at all just a team of scientists. Perhaps the designer no longer exists. So I win.
I always admit that I do not know what happened to start the universe, but we're working on that too and I'd rather not fill-in the blanks with myth because it's convenient and comforting.
Agnosticism intellectually embraces scientific empiricism. Considering the preponderance of unknowns, a seemingly obvious posture.
A/theisms require dialecticism to foment themselves. They are the identical coin. One embraces faith..the other violently denies it. But they contest for it.
Give a pause to Dawkin's assignation of political, cowardly, tendentious motives to great minds like Stephen J. Gould and T.H. Huxley, for their agnosticism.
Thanks, you bring light, not heat to THE most interesting of all questions. But..
There can't be serious contesting of ALL absence of empiricism re origin of existence-origin of life. Come'on..name anything. Contrarily, ex nihilo OR eternal "suns" violate the 1st/2nd Laws of Thermodynamics...this universe is oxymoronic. Life is squalidily regnant..but we can't reverse engineer it, or categorically identify it's initiation.
These are dispositive of NOTHING. But atheism pregnantly avoids them
Virtually absent exception, no religion fails to provide a creation myth for existence & life. FOR VERY GOOD REASON! They are THE inescapeable, sui generis, over-arching questions human-kind asks.
Agnosticism acknowledges them, recognizes it's insufficiency, and makes NO response.
Atheism mawkishly lampoons theism's God, then avers to "naturalism" predicated upon NO scientific empiricial-observable data.
They are both FAITHS, one masquerading as science.
@WayneLynch69 I watch your video and I love your passion...but I respectfully disagree. Atheism is not a faith or belief. You write that there is not evidence...that bull. Billions of years of evidence exhists. Also, I am a non-thesit, not an athiest. Science is the only real way for us to use our ever developing gifts to expand our understanding of the big questions, and we are intellectual infants...give us time, relax, get back to me in another 100,000 years when we have more answers.
Loving parents raise you, crosses on the walls Blessed water on your forehead, because of where you're born You trust and never question, those that care you need So sin and god and hellfire, are lessons you blindly heed...yeah, yeah Chorus: In their god you must rejoice Children sadly get no choice Original sin! 'Born sick child' kneel down before "Him" Credulous minds! By ritual, rites and sect defined It's innocence used, A godly child is a child, abused
Denying the veracity of Messianic prophecy is just another way of saying, "Lord, I'm not going to yield, I'm not going to believe, no matter what evidence I'm presented with."
@peterpulpitpounder Please show me on stitch of evidence that a god exhists and like I have told you before, I will spend the rest of my days serving it. Until then, we see each other as fools...respectfully of course.
Look out your window. Look up into the sky on a clear evening. Look into the eyes of a newborn. Try to fathom the vastness of the universe, the complexity and diversity of life, etc. There's PLENTY of proof for the intelligent design premise. You just continue to ignore the facts. Yup, a fool you are (not stupid, but blind/unwise), enriched with the wisdom of this world, yet oblivious to the most rudimentary and logical reality of God's existence. Psalm 14:1.
I respectfully disagree...again, the points you make and the questions you raise have all their nexus in scientific reality. Although you are more passionate than most, and are clearly an educated gentleman you still don't really make a case...this is because you use suspension of critical thinking to support mythical beings, and not tangible evidenced-based facts. You cannot support the gods and the bibles with....the god s and the bibles.
Have you honestly studied Biblical prophecy? I'm talking about a sound exegetical treatment of the matter, not a quick review of some infidel's comments or brief liberal synopsis. There are too many specific messianic prophecies contained in the Bible to deem the issue fictitious.
I presented arguments. You have yet to respond. Take the book of Daniel as an example. This book of the Bible prophesied of 4 world empires that shall exist prior ot the realization of God's kingdom on earth, which shall swall up the kingdoms of men, etc.
Babylon, Persia, Greece & Rome (with a revived element yet to be fulfilled involving ten nations, as depicted by the ten toes of the image presented).
Biblical prophecy is apparently something you prefer to avoid.
@peterpulpitpounder By that standard Nostradamus and Edward Casey et. al. should be the supreme leaders and credited with creation of man and the universe because they prophesize and predict 100s of more things than either bibles and much greater accuracy. And, the "look around you" argument for god? Come on, I can explain everything I see back to its atomic elements.
Once again, you have failed to do your homework and know very little about the subject at hand. Nostradamus predicted nothing and is a poor comparison to that of Biblical prophecy. The next thing you're going to tell me is that Hitler was a nice guy. And, yes, the mere observation of the world is proof of intelligent design. You've got information without proper context, and so all the content "in the world" fails to lead you to the right conclusions.
There is not god...we got stoned on some really great herb and made the whole thing up just for shits and gigles...it was never meant to be taken seriously...we are like, so sorry everyone...it was just meant as a joke. Really. No god. Soryy.
@peterpulpitpounder Without doubt one of man's greatest mistakes was basing morals on religious myth. For, sooner or later, myth is always recognized for what it is, crumbles and disappears. Then morality loses the fictitious foundation on which it has been built and the atheists must educate all, once again.
You are correct. Nothing should be based on myth. But not everything in the religious realm is myth, starting with the fact and reality of an omnipotent, all-wise God, Creator of the earth and universe, etc. The cornerstone of morality is God, your/my Creator. Nothing could be more logical, sensible and critical.
@peterpulpitpounder I also agree...and if you can show me one scintilla of emperical evidence I will fall to my knees...until then, Your god gets shelved with Harry Potter, Jack in the Beanstalk and other great fictional characters! But I do wish you peace and hope that living a lie makes you happy. Is ignorace bliss? You certainly make a good case for that to be true!
For starters, the heavens declare the glory of God. That's a fact you continue to deny. Another evidence is fulfilled prophecy, and we aren't talking about the kind of stupidity put forth by people like Harold Camping, Take the book of Daniel as an example. Four world kingdoms were predicted, and four have come and gone (Babylon, Medio/Persia, Greece & Rome), with a revived form of the Roman empire yet to emerge headed by the anti-Christ (Daniel 2:36-46).
Oh, one evidence is that of your own conscious brain function, although it is not being used to give God the glory. It's like glove that has never caught a ball, or an hammer that has never seen a nail. Hopefully that will change.
Are you really trying to claim that our human consciousness is evidence of a creator? Really? I am a doctor and I can easily explain that higher function of our frontal corex and all the gyri that are involved...how it happens and why it happens...in fact consciousness is probably one of the most compelling emperical evidentary proof of evolution there is...I can trace it back, and show how its limitation in other species show gene expression, or lack there of. You can do better than that.
You never even read a Bible.
And your even comparing us to Muslim terrorists? LOL!!
minnesotastategop 2 days ago
Nice! Your words were music to my ears.
Zerosupernatural 2 weeks ago
Great musical composition and voice. However, why attack religious people with stereotypes and caricatures of them in the video? It's rather hypocritical to stereotype a whole group of people because some of them are bad. There have been bad people from all groups, including atheists.
For a good atheist song that doesn't fall into this us vs. them, antagonistic mentality regarding believers search robbie fulks and see watch God isn't Real
severian2012 3 weeks ago
Awesome! Brilliant and catchy song! My favourite atheist song so far! Keep em comming sir!
mansanraps 3 weeks ago
@mansanraps Thanks for the nice comment...I am working on a new song. I really appreciate the encouragment. Peace!
AtheistSongs 3 weeks ago
Thank you AtheistSongs !!! Recently left mormon church after 40 years of delusion - it's nice to be a free-thinker. Good to see Hitchens and Dawkins included in your slides. I will miss Hitchens - someone who would not be bullied by religion.
pinkrain2010 4 weeks ago
Signs of a great song:
good lyrics that tell your side in a clever way...check
a catchy chorus that makes you want to sing along...check
good guitar playing , percussion, and vocals...check
Great fucking song
NoProofOfHell 4 weeks ago 3
Love the song. Im agnostic and love the sound of your music.Not just the lyrics either.Like the voice and instruments and tempo-everything.Subscribing now.
ITSMETHEFLASH 1 month ago
Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Nice song my brother! Subbed to the max.
discolemonade66 1 month ago
Well done! I bought "The God Delusion about three years ago." I have been an atheist for over 30 years. But only recently have I "come out of the closet."
nontheistcapitalist 1 month ago
New atheists need to calm down and absorb their new perspective. The worst aspect of the new atheism is the degree to which it has copied fundamentalism - treating those who disagree as evil (not wrong), assigning morality based on religious opinion, proselytizing, creating "movement" songs, atheist conventions, celebrating Darwin's birthday,,, It's all so...utterly religious. LOL
Atheists comfortable with their decision don't worry about converting the world to non-belief.
smb123211 1 month ago
we are in no way a Cult and God's words don't need to make sense
TheJesusfreak2008 1 month ago
Your statement only ring true if cars are real. You analogy is inaccurate, it should read..."is is wrong for me to tell someone the beware of pink flying unicorns when crossing the steer"...get it now?!?
AtheistSongs 1 month ago
Tearing down things that others consider truth is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel..I dont think its wrong or bad to fear something.. If i tell a boy to stay out of the street cause he could get runover by a car and one day he crosses without a problem,.should he write songs about what a joke it was to fear cars killing him??
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Organised religion is no different to any other cult...its just that it is worldwide and wrapped up in very strong symbolism/history. It's been around for so long and so many belive it...it must be right? WRONG.
To the guy who made this video - congratulations on freeing yourself. I genuinely wish you well and live the remainder of your life free of guilt, anxiety and torment. Life is beautiful...and you certinaly dont need people telling you to LOVE and FEAR someone in equal measure.
DIGITALSCREAMS 2 months ago
Good job. In my videos I just drone on in a monotonous voice about the religious delusion, but I think music makes a larger impact in the long run. Keep it up, you make good music.
LastBitofCommonSense 2 months ago
Thank you.
burnellmusic 2 months ago
you really spot on with the lyrics...my life is so fucked up because i believe so much in so called "god" and his angels...at the end of the day...i am the one who live my life...i am the master of my own life...!!!
dan666sme 2 months ago
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@YELLOMELLO1O1 And when we both are wrong ALLAH is going to torture us with boiling water, and other assortments for eternity... and when me you and the muslims are wrong, Zues will send us to the underworld... which isn't that bad actually...
IronicAtheist 3 months ago
God tell's us to do things for a reason even if we don't understand what it is his word does not have to make since cause eevrything he does in the end is for the good of mankind and we don't kill ever heard of God's comandment Thou Shalt Not Kill!
TheJesusfreak2008 3 months ago
@TheJesusfreak2008 If "God tell's you to do things" then you are suffering from a very severe type of mental illness. If any fantasy-based creature is "instructing you" then you should seek medical attention right away. This is abnormal and a hallmark of several of the worst mental disorders we know about. Best of luck to you.
AtheistSongs 3 months ago 15
@AtheistSongs Not to mention, he needs an imaginary voice to tell him not to kill people. I think that may be even worse D:
NukedWaffle 2 months ago 2
@NukedWaffle I really like the way you phrased that!
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quasisummoningdark 2 months ago
@TheJesusfreak2008 What?! Thou Shalt Not Kill? Then who the hell started the Crusades? And so much other bloodshed started by Christianity over time, including WWII. All of the people that have died because of religious nuts like you, and you say, on the very same planet, that you don't kill. Just keep advocating for murder. By the way, I saw your O.J. Simpson sign right next to your Jesus sign on the lawn. Keep thinking they're both innocent. That's sarcasm, by the way.
Redsky176 1 month ago
incredible video man i like it keep it coming.
mysanuty 3 months ago
@YELLOMELLO1O1 shut up or i will torture you by giving you brains to think and i know your kind don't like thinking.
mysanuty 3 months ago
@YELLOMELLO1O1 Didn't you learn anything by the utter foolishness and disgrace of Harold Camping? Haven't you hear of the stupid Pascal's Wager? Which god should I bet on?
farvision 3 months ago
Nice job! I added this song to my Atheist Songs playlist.
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ChetArrista 3 months ago
@YELLOMELLO1O1 Who is "he" and why and when is "he" coming?
ChetArrista 3 months ago
@YELLOMELLO1O1 I reckon your mind isn't. That's the reason you think that god is real.
Freelifewonder 3 months ago
Very meaningful song. It's great!!! :-)
Freelifewonder 4 months ago
Very Allman Brothers sounding, loved it!
mcrd2001 4 months ago
i blame the pope for almost every problem on earth - its not that im over judgmental - its just hes so damn clumbsy!
Areyourealythatdumb 4 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Yeah, I had the same problem, but I realized it was just a hormone when I was a eleven.
Grow up, theists.
420FreeLife 5 months ago
@420FreeLife Nice!
GuitarChet 5 months ago
This is great. I truly loved it. Subject and music both right on.
Denrnr 5 months ago
@Denrnr Thanks for the really warm comment. YOU rock! I am writing more songs...and hopefully be back in the studio soon to record. Peace to you and yours.
AtheistSongs 5 months ago 3
Yep...Dr. Fool. lol ;-)
advantage73 5 months ago
Sure... Dr. Fool! lol ;-)
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I haven't been on in awhile & get on to find these negative comments still coming my way. Yes, i believe in God. I believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross not only for me but for you also. But thats my belief. I will not shove my beliefs down your throat nor do i appreciate yours being shoved down mine. I am 15 years old and have been given so many gifts from God. I preach at my church, nothing hostile towards atheist, but the truth that the end is near. Get close to God while you still can.
HayBug1402 5 months ago
@HayBug1402 God is a lie made up to control you. When you grow up you will realize this and devote your life to ending the damage that these fake gods and religions do to our world. Glad you're hear and begining your awareness...you don't know it yet but just by being on my song you are starting to open your eyes to their lies. Rebel now...become smarter then they are...become real...embrace science and truth, not mythical creatures like "jesus" and the other gods.
AtheistSongs 5 months ago 15
@AtheistSongs Actually, by being on your song is in NO way me opening up my eyes to your beliefs. I will never believe the same way you do and thats okay. I was actually listening to a song pertaining to my beliefs and you had commented on it stating your beliefs. That is the only thing that brought me to comment on your song. My beliefs are my own & your's are your own. Some people pretend to be Christians & push people away from God. I am not one of those people. God will never give up on you.
HayBug1402 5 months ago
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HayBug1402 5 months ago
@HayBug1402 this man is hurt and is fired with zeal because his Christianity doesn't suit him any more -there is a world outside of Christianity, but as long as you know that the basic beliefs of all world religions are those of The One, the harm comes when we need to terrorise our fellows because of their beliefs. If Christianity suits you, you live it xo Be true to yourself sweetie xo
Sheaswoman 5 months ago
@Sheaswoman I know God is real, not because of what people have told me or what i was pushed to believe. I believe in God because once i was saved i had spiritual experiences that there is no way i could have possibly experienced them without God. I have been baptized in the Holy Ghost multiple times and i can only hope everyone can have the same experiences I did because it is the best feeling in the world. Thank you.
HayBug1402 5 months ago
@HayBug1402 WHat you felt is neurological, not supernatural or spirtual.
AtheistSongs 5 months ago
@HayBug1402 You're 15 not even aware of your surroundings let alone the gruesome history of Religon. You going to tell us the god of the old testament wasn't crazy? Thats what you think loves you?
zinnington 4 months ago
@zinnington Actually, thats what I KNOW loves me, our God never changes. The laws simply changed because we were unable to live by the with our sin nature.
HayBug1402 4 months ago
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@HayBug1402 No, god told people to kill and rape the daughters of the people they killed, according to the old testament. If god told them to kill families and then rape the daughters and mothers in the old testament, the god today is the same one who told them to do that...
IronicAtheist 3 months ago
@HayBug1402 I'm also 15, and a few weeks ago I started checking out the atheists arguments against god, and honestly, christians aint got nothing on 'em. There is no god, sorry man, it's just to control us. The god of the bible is an immoral dick, you should try to check what it really says. if you won't bother to read through the whole bible, just check out theevilbible(.)com remove the ( and )
AlmoTrademark 3 months ago
@HayBug1402 okay, srry, shouldn't be theevilbible(.)com, just evilbible(.)com
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1CreEpZz 3 months ago
@HayBug1402 Hey brother, dont take all of what he said literally. He is just experiencing life differently in his own form of god which is perfectly fine for his plane in evolution. You can love and experience god any way in your chooseing. God is not your lord or king or master, hes everything... your part of god, you are god. Think of it as if all the water inside a container or bucket is you but.. your experience is the one of many billions of individual holes that are in the buckets sides.
1CreEpZz 3 months ago
@1CreEpZz This bucket is spilling water and the water is landing making its own river and you are that river, then your the flow and the rivers and the lakes and water falls and then ocean. Ocean within a raindrop rain drop within an ocean
1CreEpZz 3 months ago
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@1CreEpZz Good luck convincing the religious of that definition of god... Your definition is kinda irrelevant to humanity, it is beautiful but that is all it is... They need to all accept your view, which does not define god as a creator to cause the least harm... And at that point we will be unrestricted in our advancement of our species and can finally work on escaping our doom of getting hit by another galaxy...
IronicAtheist 3 months ago
@1CreEpZz Okay. I get the metaphorical aspect of what you are saying and it sounds really nice. Although, I think what you are speaking of is that which is normally referred to as life or existence. And no one argues that there are many ways to live and exist. For all I know, particles that are a part of me right now could have been part of many different dinosaurs millions of years ago. And many years into the future, those same particles could be part of an interstellar spaceship! :D
abcdefwoo1234 2 months ago
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Awesome song my friend, check my channel for more atheist music.
AtheistRapMusic 6 months ago
Any chance I could get the chord structure for this from you? I would like to be able to sing this and accompany myself as well...I love this song!
katystapleton16 6 months ago
@katystapleton16 Sure...I can send you that! If I can remember what I wrote! I'll get back to you on this shorty.
And thanks for asking...it's really nice to know someone's listening.
AtheistSongs 6 months ago
Great song!
offkeychris123 7 months ago
Man created god...all of them...in both form and content...god is clearly a constuct of man...anyone that doesn't see that is either blind by choice (known as faith) or blind by ignorance (brainwashing, false teachings etc.) but either way...blind. To believe any of the god stories, let along make it part of your life, is pitiful and sad. A man of god is really a man being controlled by other men so well he doesn't even know it. Sad. But we can help them out of the delusion.
AtheistSongs 7 months ago 2
@AtheistSongs if you take the bible as a documentary of one man's life you will feel disappointed when it is proved wrong -zeitgist (tink it's youtubable) is a good starting point for how Christianity has cherry picked from all that went before it - but to be godless is another scary place x if yu think you are worm food when you pass over, you are a loon. When you learn to cherry pick from world religions, and realise that most of them have summat good to say -you will account for yourself xo
Sheaswoman 6 months ago
@Sheaswoman Zeitgeist is a very poor place to start. Yes, Christianity has borrowed much from earlier pagan religions but nearly every claim in the movie is demonstrably false. Check out skepticproject (dot) com
TheResidentSkeptic 6 months ago
Brilliant!
DemonLDR 8 months ago
Explain God? Okay. Well, He is eternal spirit, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, immutable, eternal, immortal, invisble, all wise, merciful, loving, creative, caring, forgiving, holy, just, kind, hating sin and loving righteousness.
That's enough for you to chew on.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Then why are the only changes or influences on the world, socieity and man all the result of what we do and have nothing to do with a god or 'the gods'? I have been watching the excellent HBO series ROME and in every episode they go into these temples and offer up something to this god or that god to help them with this problem or that problme. It clearly is a silly waste of time but they totally believe it. There is NO difference with the gods today, sorry.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
You seem to be looking for a miracle at every turn. Miracles have never been the norm, although God has substantiated His work, will and word over the course of human history with various supernatural acts. The HBO series, of which you mentioned, was clearly dealing with false gods, idols, etc. At this present time God is working through His saving Gospel, having commanded His disciples to "go into all the world and preach..." (See Acts 1:8). That work continues today.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder If there were a jury trial whereby the verdict decided the existence of a god (using the civil procedural standard of preponderance of evidence) without question it would be as follows: "We, the jury, in the case of 'A God v. The Human Race', do hereby unanimously find for The Human Race, that they are in fact free, not guilty of original sin, and no god of any kind has ever been on this earth". Case closed.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
No, such a jury would be guilty of gross injustice in sending the perfect Creator to prison, so to speak. The evidence is quite overwhelming. "The heavens declare the glory of God." It didn't just happen by itself. Do you consider matter eternal? I'm assuming you do, being forced to explain all things within a naturalistic framework.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder No, matter is not no eternal. Energy is. And that 'framework' is now being challenged as we learn more about how physics breaks down in other condiitions. God can't be sent to prison, because there is not god(s). Never has been, maybe there will be but that's for another comment. The CONCEPT of god would be found unsubstanciated (remeber, this is a moot CIVIL case). Clearly, based upoin the perponderace of evidence there is no god. To see it any other way you must use
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
You have a major misconception of the word evidence.
And gods can happen by itself, but universes can't? Here is where your "logic" is flawed.
And there is one more flaw. Even if you disproof science, there would be no way, that this will proof your god. If one theory is falsified there is no reason to believe that the other claim, no matter how stupid, on the same topic is true, despite the fact that there is no evidence to back it up.
Chiungalla79 8 months ago
@Chiungalla79
My position is: Life came from life and intelligence. Your position is: Life came from non-life, and non-intelligence. The former is logically superior, and I think you realize this. You just refuse to embrace the reality that God exists, and you are accountable to HIm.
peterpulpitpounder 7 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Your position isn't "logically superior", how could it? Life comes from life, does not explain anything more then evolution does. And it raises the question where the first life came from. You can't explain that, and that's where your logic has no basis to start from after all.
Science has the big bang as a starting point. You take god for granted. So you assume life and intelligence, the most unlikely things in the universe as starting point for your non-logic.
Chiungalla79 7 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Man must now be as intelligent as God since man like God has been able to create life. Man has been geneticly manipulating life for hundreds of years. Man is not accountable to God. Some men beleive they need to make their fellow man accountable to God but fail to fully explain why.
AllanPalmer100 7 months ago
@AllanPalmer100
Man hasn't created life. This is another garbage claim. Man has not created life from the ground up, so stop making unfounded statements.
peterpulpitpounder 7 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Funny...If its a few cells called an embryo it "life" and you can touch it...hell, if is a SINGLE cell it "life and you can't touch it...but when man creates "life" (and has many time for many years beyond a stem cell) it's no "life" and doesn't qualify...H-Y-P-O-C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-I-T-Y once again.
SteelStringDiva 7 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
So now you have described god, can you please go on and explain god?
Where does he come from for example... that's the question I was refering to.
If god is your answer to the existence of the universe, I want to know where your god comes from.
If you can't give a good answer, which includes no dogma, to this question, you have in no way solved the problem of the existence of the universe, but only pushed the problem farther back.
Chiungalla79 8 months ago
@1naneRex You need to be "ed yoo kate did"
wlwrk4fd 8 months ago
@1naneRex You clearly have a marvelous economy with words and a depth of fixed opinion that is truly enlightened. You represent the ilk of your Christian brothers and sisters perfectly.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
Thus the only one with quivering lips is peterpulpitpounder who can't answer a question and his position is sooo weak that he must represent mine to make his question begging position look better.
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666 Peter is a surprisingly well educated man. And that is a paradox. He is articulate, educated, knowledgeable and experienced; yet, in spite of this he continues to actually quote the bible! This is very rare. Usually the only time that someone of his caliber has the fall-back position that the bible is real (and it supports that god is real) are those that gain finacially or have a career tied to that position. He REALLY believes in the bible. He thinks it's all real.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
It is such a shame that he wastes all of his talent and brain power
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666 A study was done that surveyed 1000 Catholic priests. They were guaranteed 100% anonymity in taking part and it was double blinded. The survey concluded that almost 40% of the priests NO LONGER BELIEVED IN CHRIST! But the priests felt in their later stages of life that they had no other options to survive financially so they actually stayed "with the company". Talk about having to sell your soul! But Peter is not one of them. He REALLY believes that Jesus is etherial.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
This study, however credible, may very well substantiate the veractiy of Scripture. And why do I say this? Well, the BIble clearly states that toward the end of the age, prior to Christ's second coming and reign on earth, there will be a "falling away." It states that "men shall depart from the faith." It states that men will "have a form of godliness," but will deny God. Religous apostasy is to be expected, based on many Bible passages..
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Althought I understand that you think that a god (I guess that would be Jesus) is coming to planet earth to rule the world or what ever he will do is real, I can not comprehend that a fully grown man of very high intelligence and healthy on all front can actually believe this. This is NOT an insult in any way. What I am trying to convey is I, personally, find this to be LITTERALLY the same as Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy. With ALL MY HEART, this is what I see and know.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
I would be crippled in my thinking too if I deemed myself a glorified frog. You think exclusively within the sphere of naturalism, and that's your problem. You speak of fairly tales, and yet dogmatically assert the whole molecules to man premise, believing all of life somehow evolved out of nothingness. I'd say that takes more faith than required by the Christian.
Yes, Jesus will return yet again. God special revelation to humanity, the Bible, makes this clear.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
Also if peterpulpitpounder had a clue about what he was talking about, he would know that what he is saying is absurd and stupid. There was no "before" the universe because the big bang was the origin of time as we know it. Thus it makes no sense to ask what came before time. And also the universe is ALL of existence which would include his god if there is one. So how could god exist before he exists? I sure do hope is IQ ascends beyond 10.
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
There is was no "before" the universe? I'd say that's a pretty stupid premise, to say the least. You are claiming that sometihng came from nothing? That's an impossibility. Now, if you want to bring God into the equation, then you can make some sense of all of this, God being the only uncaused cause of the universe, the Creator of all things. It is far more logical to believe in intelligent design than to reject it, despite whatever question marks remain.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Don't get mad at me because I understand physics better than you and I am more educated than you. And it is more logical to reject your design argument since all it rests upon is blind faith and ignorance. LOL An uncaused cause? Perhaps you are the one who needs to learn a little logic, and the laws of logic would be a good start for example the law non contradiction. Oh while I am at it why don't you also study fallacies since you use so many XD
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
The exercise of human logic has its limitations, especially when it comes to the divinity. God is the only uncaused cause of the universe. God exists outside of time and space. He is imminent (near) to His creation, and yet transcendent (outside) His creation. God has neither abandoned His creation, neither is creation divine (pantheism).
God is the answer. Deal with it.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Sorry the laws of logic do not agree with your or your god, and they are 100% correct. So don't tell me to deal with it until you have proven it. Simply repeating your ignorance doesn't make it true.
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
No, the laws of logic do not support a mere naturalistic explanation to the formation and creation of the world. All of life, male and female, all the complexity, design, diversity and codes somehow created themselves? You believe there was nothing and then there was something? You call that logic? It's not. It's stupidity.
Once again, turn around face God. God is the only answer to it all.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
You don't know anything about logic, if you think that believing in a god, will solve any problem. It will only create a new logic problem, the existence of god. The claim for the existence of god is far fetched without any backup in evidence.
Evolution is well understood so far, and it gives all the explanation we need. Combined with physics and chemistry, it is very well capable of explaining everything from the big bang to homo sapiens sapiens.
Chiungalla79 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Prove that there is a god to face. Why do you stutter? Why do your lips quiver when I ask you for evidence? Why don't you present it. I take it you have no evidence and therefore I do not have to believe your idea of god. No evidence no case :0
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
You made a good point: Human logic has it's limits when dealing with god(s). You are a human I suppose? So how do you think your logic can deal with god(s)? How ignorant of your own words that you are so sure of his existence. Shouldn't you be agnostic since your logic isn't fit for divinity anyway?
And btw. your argument is an axiomatic one, one perfectly descriped in the Münchhausen Trilemma, and proofen as not valid a long time ago by philosophy.
Chiungalla79 8 months ago
@Chiungalla79
Once again, you are mentally crippled. You've got a bag of lies over your head and cannot see. The world is God's choir, singing the praises of his eternal power and infinite wisdom. And you've resigned yourself to believing all that we see and observe today came into being all on its own, and from nothingness?
God is still waiting for your worship.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
He better does not hold it's breath while waiting for it.
And to your question: What are the alternatives?
Bringing god into the equation does not solve your problem, it makes it even bigger, because then you have to explain god. Okay, I got it, you are not willing to explain god, which is not the same as if he needn't be explained. I'm not willing to explain the universe. That's not my job. I'm a biologist. I can explain the living creatures, that's enough for me.
Chiungalla79 8 months ago
@Chiungalla79 And as scientist we would rather 'know what we don't know' and keep investigating then to 'fill in the blanks' with wish-thinking and myth. Without we men of science we would be living in caves and dying in our thrid decade from dental infections. Man has created everything you see and nature created man. And I should mention along with everything else we created we made gods too...all of them...including yours...and his, and his and his and his and his......
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder And as scientist we would rather 'know what we don't know' and keep investigating then to 'fill in the blanks' with wish-thinking and myth. Without we men of science we would be living in caves and dying in our thrid decade from dental infections. Man has created everything you see and nature created man. And I should mention along with everything else we created we made gods too...all of them...including yours...and his, and his and his and his and his......
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
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@peterpulpitpounder
Also I note that you dodged my questions: Where is your evidence besides your utter ignorance and lack of understanding about science and physics? How do you know that if the universe was designed it was your god and not some other god? Design alone cannot prove that your god exists
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
How dumb is peterpulpitpounder? He can't think for himself and therefore all he can do is parrot the bible, as if it were credible (which he has not yet proven that it is). All he can do is use question begging assertions and arguments from ignorance because his simple brain cannot think of anything else besides a magical sky daddy. I know kids who are smarter than this and who reason better. How dishonest is he? He has not answered my question and he misrepresents my position. Sad eh?
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Also why don't you educate yourself? You seem very ignorant and like a parrot who knows how to do nothing else but to do what they are told. You can start by looking up Hume's objections to the design argument so you can see how useless it is. Then you can go and study science to see how molecules become humans. Unlike you I am educated and know what I am talking about and I know how to reason instead of just quote bible verses
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
I know plenty of educated people who find the molecules to man premise a laughable fantasy. It's just a nice little idea that provides insulation for people like yourself against the reality of intelligent design and it's moral and spiritual implications. See Hebrews 9:27.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
If the best you can do is quote the bible then clearly you have no education. You have no more evidence for your bible than other religions have for their books. So I will ask the one million dollar question again: Where is your evidence? And what moral implications? Can you provide evidence for those too? And also I would like for there to be spirits, but I don't go around believing what feels good, I believe what I can prove. So quit dodging and answer
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder I posed a new song called "Credulous Minds" and would be honored if you would listen to it. You will probably not care for the point it makes, but hopefully you will enjoy the solid composition and form.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
You mean elementary educated? Im talking about college educated. It is funny how you mock those THREE theories (They are not one theory which shows me that you don't even know what the hell you are talking about) without reading about them or studying them. The fact that you must resort to such dishonesty in favor of your fairy tale shows me that you are a waste of time. Also if you check my channel you will find that you broke several rules of honest debating
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
Here you go again, assuming you are the only person who has finished 2nd grade.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Peter is a surprisingly well educated man. And that is a paradox. He is articulate, educated, knowledgeable and experienced; yet, in spite of this he continues to actually quote the bible! This is very rare. Usually the only time that someone of his caliber has the fall-back position that the bible is real (and it supports that god is real) are those that gain finacially or have a career tied to that position. He REALLY believes in the bible. He thinks it's all real.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
One of my favorite verses in the BIble is found in the book of 1 Corinthians. This epistle was written to address a number of problematic issues within this 1st century assembly, one of which was the pride driven pursuit of intellect. The verse states: "He that is wise, let him become a fool, that he truly may become wise." This verse means that the core, the essence, of true wisdom is humility. No human comes close to having all the answers, but God's wisdom is infinite.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
I'm sure you are familiar with the old "birds of a feather stick together" proverb. To say that it is rare for an educated person to actually quote the Bible is not only inaccurate, but it seems to indicate your interaction with those you deem "Christian" is quite limited. Oh, and let me also add that your argument that MOST clergy are into the ministry for the sake of financial gain is yet another absurdity. Turn of your TV and stop fixating on wolves in sheep's clothing.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
You may be educated, but the content that's been crammed in your brain is from the sewer of vain humanism, and you are obviously extremely gullible to believe our universe and the life within it are purposeless, self-created accidents. It all descended from one atom of unknown origin? Is that what you think? That's pretty stupid reasoning, to say the least.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
When you can address the issue and present your evidence, then we can talk. Even if there were no purpose it does not mean that evolution and other theories are any less true. Way to commit the fallacy of appealing to consequence, and of course the strawman. Also I decide my purpose for myself, Im not so dumb that I need a god to tell me my purpose. So when you can answer my question do so. until then these lame comments show how weak your position is.
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
My "case" has been presented quite clearly. You have embraced the absurd premise that this vast universe in which we reside somehow came into being on its own. And where and how did it all begin? You have no answer beyond the quivering of your lips. There's only one answer, and that answer is GOD, but you refuse to acnowledge the obvious.
Once again, Psalm 14:1 describes your present condition... very bright but very bind.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Once again all your tiny brain can do is quote useless scripture in the form of question begging ad homs to dodge the question at hand, and you have failed to prove that there is a god; instead all you do is make an argument from ignorance. Then you dishonestly put words into my mouth and in the mouth of other scientists. No scientists nor I claim that the universe came into being on it's own. Therefore the only one with quivering lips is your dishonest and stupid self.
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
And my channel describes your condition: Blind, stupid, and dishonest
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder You are basing your beliefs on faith alone. No question about it. And that's OK, but own it. You cannot say that there is evidence all around us, just look. You believe because you choose to. And I can accept that. I disagree but it's your life to live. But remember that a requisite for faith is the willful suspension of critical thinking.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Faith is certainly a critical element to the matter of being a true Christian, but it's not blind or baseless faith. It's not faith in just anyone or anything, etc. You "think" there is no valid reason for believing, when the reality is just the opposite. You asked for "proof" and I submitted the matter of Biblical prophecy. And what was your response? You brought up Nostradamus, who, by the way, never actually predicted anything specific, unlike the Biblical text and prophets.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
Actually faith is blind belief. And biblical prophecy? Where is the proof of any prophecy? Your so called prophecies are very vague and not specific at all, next they are predictable, and since the bible was written after these events supposedly happened they are self fulfilling and question begging. So are you going to give us atheists evidence or just stutter like a retard who knows nothing else besides bible versus?
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666 Hi...Love your comments! I wnated to let you know that I posted a new song, "Credulous Minds" and would love for you to give it a listen, peace my brother...or sister.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
I will. But for now I got to spam the American Family Association with gay porn. Boy will they be pissed XD
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Take Isaiah 53 as an irrefutable example of Biblical prophesy. Read it. Ponder its content. Don't feed your brain with liberal commentary, but allow the actual text to speak for itself. It was written hundreds of years prior to Christ's advent and agony. "He was wounded for our transgressions." "It pleased the Lord to bruise Him." "By His stripes we are healed." And this is just a small sampling of the Messianic prophecies contained in the Bible. It's not fabrication.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder How can you say that other prophecies are any less valid or accurate? There are people that firmly believe that other have predicted many more things and with much greater accuracy then the bible by a far margin. Many book written about this. You can't have it both ways and interpret the bible as being true and not afford the same to other works. That is dishonest or flat out bias. For me, except for a few short term political or financial predictions(years)its all lies.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Are without any discerment? Like many others on this forum, you lump dung and gold together and deem it the same. They are not the same. The nature and content of Biblical prophecy is altogether distinct from all others sources. Are you going to put Harold Camping on the same plane as the prophet Isaiah, who clearly and distinctly articulated the coming, life, death, ministry and return of Christ? We aren't dealing with ambiquity or vagueness within the Biblical text.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
LOL! When you have met your MASSIVE burden of proof for your bible's absurd stories then we can talk. Until then you have nothing. NO EVIDENCE NO CASE!
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
@SexyArcanine666
From molecules to man, and without intelligent design? That's the ultimate fairy tale!
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder
When you have evidence and not an argument from ignorance then you can say your god exists. Until then stfu. You need to prove that there was design and there was a designer. Instead all you have is an argument from ignorance that results from a puny IQ. Even if there was design it could still be some other god and not yours. Perhaps it was many gods that made the universe, or no gods at all just a team of scientists. Perhaps the designer no longer exists. So I win.
SexyArcanine666 8 months ago
I always admit that I do not know what happened to start the universe, but we're working on that too and I'd rather not fill-in the blanks with myth because it's convenient and comforting.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
I'll tell you what happened. God said, "Let their be light, and there was light." God is the only uncaused cause of the universe. Deal with it.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@1AREALIST Thanks a lot for the kind complement...that's the only true currency and I appreciate it.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
Agnosticism intellectually embraces scientific empiricism. Considering the preponderance of unknowns, a seemingly obvious posture.
A/theisms require dialecticism to foment themselves. They are the identical coin. One embraces faith..the other violently denies it. But they contest for it.
Give a pause to Dawkin's assignation of political, cowardly, tendentious motives to great minds like Stephen J. Gould and T.H. Huxley, for their agnosticism.
"Me thinkest he doth protest too much.."
WayneLynch69 8 months ago
Thanks, you bring light, not heat to THE most interesting of all questions. But..
There can't be serious contesting of ALL absence of empiricism re origin of existence-origin of life. Come'on..name anything. Contrarily, ex nihilo OR eternal "suns" violate the 1st/2nd Laws of Thermodynamics...this universe is oxymoronic. Life is squalidily regnant..but we can't reverse engineer it, or categorically identify it's initiation.
These are dispositive of NOTHING. But atheism pregnantly avoids them
WayneLynch69 8 months ago
Virtually absent exception, no religion fails to provide a creation myth for existence & life. FOR VERY GOOD REASON! They are THE inescapeable, sui generis, over-arching questions human-kind asks.
Agnosticism acknowledges them, recognizes it's insufficiency, and makes NO response.
Atheism mawkishly lampoons theism's God, then avers to "naturalism" predicated upon NO scientific empiricial-observable data.
They are both FAITHS, one masquerading as science.
Agnosticism alone eschews faith...
WayneLynch69 8 months ago
@WayneLynch69 I watch your video and I love your passion...but I respectfully disagree. Atheism is not a faith or belief. You write that there is not evidence...that bull. Billions of years of evidence exhists. Also, I am a non-thesit, not an athiest. Science is the only real way for us to use our ever developing gifts to expand our understanding of the big questions, and we are intellectual infants...give us time, relax, get back to me in another 100,000 years when we have more answers.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
1:28 jenna haze lol
diabl2master 8 months ago
@diabl2master You are the FIRST person to EVER notice or indentify her! You win a date with her in New York! You Rock!
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs :D Woop woop, looking forward to it :P I think I watch her too much maybe.
diabl2master 8 months ago
Isaiah 53:5 & Zechariah 9:9. Hmmm, I wonder who these prophecies depict?
Hint: ESJSU (unscramble).
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Where did these first appear? On tablets, momuments?
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Denying the veracity of Messianic prophecy is just another way of saying, "Lord, I'm not going to yield, I'm not going to believe, no matter what evidence I'm presented with."
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Please show me on stitch of evidence that a god exhists and like I have told you before, I will spend the rest of my days serving it. Until then, we see each other as fools...respectfully of course.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Look out your window. Look up into the sky on a clear evening. Look into the eyes of a newborn. Try to fathom the vastness of the universe, the complexity and diversity of life, etc. There's PLENTY of proof for the intelligent design premise. You just continue to ignore the facts. Yup, a fool you are (not stupid, but blind/unwise), enriched with the wisdom of this world, yet oblivious to the most rudimentary and logical reality of God's existence. Psalm 14:1.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
I respectfully disagree...again, the points you make and the questions you raise have all their nexus in scientific reality. Although you are more passionate than most, and are clearly an educated gentleman you still don't really make a case...this is because you use suspension of critical thinking to support mythical beings, and not tangible evidenced-based facts. You cannot support the gods and the bibles with....the god s and the bibles.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Have you honestly studied Biblical prophecy? I'm talking about a sound exegetical treatment of the matter, not a quick review of some infidel's comments or brief liberal synopsis. There are too many specific messianic prophecies contained in the Bible to deem the issue fictitious.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder But again, you are using the bible to support the bible...where are the historical corralaries?
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
I presented arguments. You have yet to respond. Take the book of Daniel as an example. This book of the Bible prophesied of 4 world empires that shall exist prior ot the realization of God's kingdom on earth, which shall swall up the kingdoms of men, etc.
Babylon, Persia, Greece & Rome (with a revived element yet to be fulfilled involving ten nations, as depicted by the ten toes of the image presented).
Biblical prophecy is apparently something you prefer to avoid.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder By that standard Nostradamus and Edward Casey et. al. should be the supreme leaders and credited with creation of man and the universe because they prophesize and predict 100s of more things than either bibles and much greater accuracy. And, the "look around you" argument for god? Come on, I can explain everything I see back to its atomic elements.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Once again, you have failed to do your homework and know very little about the subject at hand. Nostradamus predicted nothing and is a poor comparison to that of Biblical prophecy. The next thing you're going to tell me is that Hitler was a nice guy. And, yes, the mere observation of the world is proof of intelligent design. You've got information without proper context, and so all the content "in the world" fails to lead you to the right conclusions.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
The moon and the stars
The fish and the sea
Have something to say to both you and to me
That something is clear, like a well lit tower
God fashioned it all, by His omnipotent power
"The heavens declare the glory of God!"
OPEN YOUR EYES ALL YE INFIDELS.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
There is not god...we got stoned on some really great herb and made the whole thing up just for shits and gigles...it was never meant to be taken seriously...we are like, so sorry everyone...it was just meant as a joke. Really. No god. Soryy.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
Chorus of my new song:
In their god you must rejoice,
Children sadly get no choice
Original sin!
'Born sick child' kneel down before "Him"
Credulous minds!
By ritual, rites and sect defined
It's innocence used,
A godly child is a child, abused
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
A verse from my new song "Children of God":
"Every faith, one thing in common,
Infect the young, or it's god's forgotten
So let's not teach, beliefs have meaning
Until a child reaches the age of reason
AtheistSongs 9 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Baloney. God is the Creator. Our children need to know about His nature & attributes. To neglect such instruction is a sin of the worst kind.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Without doubt one of man's greatest mistakes was basing morals on religious myth. For, sooner or later, myth is always recognized for what it is, crumbles and disappears. Then morality loses the fictitious foundation on which it has been built and the atheists must educate all, once again.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
You are correct. Nothing should be based on myth. But not everything in the religious realm is myth, starting with the fact and reality of an omnipotent, all-wise God, Creator of the earth and universe, etc. The cornerstone of morality is God, your/my Creator. Nothing could be more logical, sensible and critical.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder I also agree...and if you can show me one scintilla of emperical evidence I will fall to my knees...until then, Your god gets shelved with Harry Potter, Jack in the Beanstalk and other great fictional characters! But I do wish you peace and hope that living a lie makes you happy. Is ignorace bliss? You certainly make a good case for that to be true!
AtheistSongs 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
For starters, the heavens declare the glory of God. That's a fact you continue to deny. Another evidence is fulfilled prophecy, and we aren't talking about the kind of stupidity put forth by people like Harold Camping, Take the book of Daniel as an example. Four world kingdoms were predicted, and four have come and gone (Babylon, Medio/Persia, Greece & Rome), with a revived form of the Roman empire yet to emerge headed by the anti-Christ (Daniel 2:36-46).
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
@AtheistSongs
Oh, one evidence is that of your own conscious brain function, although it is not being used to give God the glory. It's like glove that has never caught a ball, or an hammer that has never seen a nail. Hopefully that will change.
peterpulpitpounder 8 months ago
Are you really trying to claim that our human consciousness is evidence of a creator? Really? I am a doctor and I can easily explain that higher function of our frontal corex and all the gyri that are involved...how it happens and why it happens...in fact consciousness is probably one of the most compelling emperical evidentary proof of evolution there is...I can trace it back, and show how its limitation in other species show gene expression, or lack there of. You can do better than that.
AtheistSongs 8 months ago