The other thing is that a junction like this would have had white lines painted on it directing drivers where to go so that situation such as this would not arise. Some call it the nanny state, but it probably would've prevented the dented wing.
Haha because crossing 4 opposing lanes of traffic at 70mph is much less dangerous than crossing 2, checking and then crossing/joining the other 2. What is possibly gained (apart from fines) from saying you're not allowed to stop in the central reservation? I'm from the uk where stopping (if you need to) is the accepted method at this type of junction.
How weird...in Oregon you're allowed to use he center lane to wait for traffic to clear. In fact, you have to do it during rush hour otherwise you wouldn't get anywhere.
At last someone smart. You made a mistake, he overreacted, got out and lost control, being violent. You stayed in your car and called the cops. This is what smart people do.
@shabba1966 Because if road traffic laws were enforced nationwide court then you would have to got to federal court for your tickets.
I agree that the rules of the road shoudl be defined nationwide, maybe by the DOT, and all states should be required to model their traffic laws after the nationwide standard.
@shabba1966 I always rant about their different emergency vehicle lighting and marking laws... they vary between cities, counties and states. Possibly a recipe for disaster too.
@rraaffbb Yes. The laws surrounding the operation of motor vehicles are set at the state level. Some states allow you to enter an intersection on green and wait for oncoming traffic to clear before you make a left turn. Some don't
Some consider states will only ticket you if you pass the stop bar while the light is red - some states will ticket you for being inside the intersection when it is red even if you entered on yellow.
Some states allow right turns at a red light, some don't.
Should have whipped out your Glock. Shot the asshole's thumbs off. And as he's laying on the ground bleeding in quite amount of pain, ask him how he's going to play with himself for the rest of his miserable life....... jackass.......
one time a accidentaly tapped a middle aged womens car door with a shopping bag, when me and my dad were walking away i turned around and saw hitting our car with her door and scrating it with a key. it cost us $850 in the end.
Yeh, you can't pull out to the middle of the intersection. Same with a left turn green arrow for a left turn with a light. Once must wait until traffic is clear in both directions. It is dangerous pulling out into the middle of the intersection for a left turn. One could be side swiped or killed by oncoming traffic. Just my two cents.
I assume you probly cut him off by saying you got in his way. Not really knowing the story in detail, still the guy was a idiot doing what he did. Rather him having a bad day, good day, or just a ok day he got what he deserved. Road rage is a waste of time and for people who promote it really are unhappy with themselves. Anyway those of us who drive have made mistakes on the road and if some driver says they haven't than there're a liar. But to think road rage will make it all better is wrong!
It doesn't matter if you made a mistake...you may have been responsible if there was an accident. But even so, you are NOT responsible for other people acting like douchebags
It took me a couple times watching the first 20 seconds or so to see what you meant. At times when you have to get across a busy 4 lane roadyou get in the middle. I have done what you done a bunch of times. I understand your thinking busy fast road easier to turn behind you. You were out of the way, like I said I done this a bunch and never had a problem. The guy misread your driving or didn't think what to do.
There is no legal legitimate claim to "misread" driving or nothing thinking about what to do. There are legal rules of the road that you must follow. It doesn't matter if you do something you feel is logical--if it's illegal then it's illegal.
The legal rule of the road here is to treat the median area the same as the road. Scruit should have pulled out and kept to the right. The truck should have passed Scruit on Scruit's left like any other roadway. Scruit is at fault.
@launchpaad88 According to the letter of the law, you are wrong too. I should have stayed behind the stop sign until I could make my left turn in one motion. The reason I went left is that the roads do not intersect at 90deg and my staying right I would have made the pickup have to make a slower and sharper turn. By moving to the left he could make a faster and shallower turn behind me. Most people appreciate this gesture.
Don't you have people to follow around and honk at? You acted like an idiot and someone finally retaliated against you. Not everyone is going to bow down to your obsession with video surveillance--soon enough you'll meet someone who just doesn't give a fuck and has nothing to lose.
@railrdr523 In Manitoba, a bike rider is required to have both hands on the handlebars at all times, but cannot make a turn without proper signaling with their arm.
@besquell You'd have to know the intersection. By pulling forward I actually gave him more room to complete his turn behind me, however he was set on going in front of me. The road intersects at a slight angle, so going behind me reduces the radius of his turn and makes it easier for him. By going in front of me, even before I moved forward, he has to slow down much more and make a much sharper turn.
No hard feelings? It is not his job to react to you not knowing the traffic laws in that state. Thats what they have officers for. Some small states have some rediculous traffic laws. People like that should also get some mandated anger management.
If the guy got out and said you can't do that here in this state just to let you know and everything would've been ok. You didn't know and he told you. Both move on their way and you never do that again. But NOOO he has to get out and call you a dumbfuck and smash y our car with his door. I would personaly hate to be that guys kid. Quote from Breakfast Club "This is what happens when you spill paint in the garage" Shows cigar burn mark from his dad on his arm.
Im 17, and already had my fair shair of road rage. People drive like idiots in Ohio, I live in West Chester, guy almost hit me after he ran a red light, got out with a belt. Now I have a nice big wrench in my back seat : )
even if you where in the wrong buddy for trying to merge like that, in no way what this idiot did ok. no excuse for it. i admire your ability to forgive and forget though, i woudnt have been able to! :) i would have slammed on the gas as soon as the dumbass started talking since iv had my share of these situations and usually when the "tough guy" starts talking vehicle damage is just right round the corner ;) good on you for staying calm though. what did he do when he came round to ur side???
@TheOxTube Whenhe got round to my side he said he was calling the police. Not sure if he thought *I* was going to be in trouble or if he was turning himself in for the damage... Either way, I'm glad he did as I had left my cellphone at home.
It's good that he got arrested and had to pay for the ddamage to your car. Maybe next time he'll think before doing something stupid. At least you got it on tape.
@Kartracer6 Intentional destruction of the property of another is criminal. Accidental, reckless or negligent (or otherwise not intentional) destruction of property is a civil tort.
Dude, you were blocking the other driver's ability to exit the road. You should have gotten a ticket for your share of the blame. To come on here and act like you're some kind of hero is pretty bad. The guy had every right to be pissed off, and to exit his vehicle. He could have even argued that your vehicle prevented him from exiting his vehicle, as well as the road, so he had to use equal force.
I took the blame (several times) in the video captions and in the description, for the driving maneuver. However as is didn't result in an accident it's irrelevant . No harm, no foul, move on.
He had absolutely no right to get out and approach me in an agressive manner, nor to intentionally damage my car - an opinion shared by the police and courts and evidenced by the Disordely Conduct and Criminal Mischief charges.
The police and courts would explain it to you too, if you did the same.
Self-Defense is meeting force with equal force. If I guy were to go off on you in a yelling rage shooting him would not constitute as self defense. I agree that Gun control laws don't work but you also must be responsable with guns. also if you did this incident and the other driver "went off on you" don't you think your still responsible for escalating this incident?
Generally, you cannot use deadly force unless deadly force is used (or is imminent). Different states/countries have different rules (some allow it to stop a rape, some don't. Some say you can't shoot someone who only has a knife, other say deadly is deady regardless of weapon be it a gun/knife/kick in the head etc) - but I know of no legal system that allows deadly force in response to swearing or vandalism.
I'm a UK expat but I prefer US self defense laws. Still, must be reasonable.
There are many laws that the police don't have the time / energy / motivation / funding / (whatever) to enforce. That becomes an issue in and of itself.
Accidents happen when someone does something unexpected. Around here there are many places where almost everyone breaks the rules that the one person actually complying with the law is unexpected and can cause accidents.
I can't count how many times I've nearly been rear-ended stopping at a stop sign. You're expected to run it.
Reasonableness is up to the jury. In Ohio (where this video was made) the attacker must have means, motive, opportunity and you still have a duty to not escalate and a duty to flee.
In this situation I'm ok from the attacker-motive and duty-to-not-escalate perspectives, however the attacker has no visible means of doing me deadly harm, nor am I aware of him having any opportunity to deploy the non-existent weapon. Further, I can back up and drive away.
@Blockygraphics watch your mouth dip shit !! your the type of person who walks into a bar stirs up the pot ,then gets his mouth smashed ! who then crys to the police, you do.....i dont live in the states jackass this is not an illegal move where i live and i was asking a question not stating a fact ,bloody moron
In some states you can use the center turn lane as a staging area to make a left turn onto a road.
Example: RCW 46.61.290 3 (a) states: ... A two-way left turn lane is near the center of the roadway set aside for use by vehicles making left turns in either direction from or into the roadway.
Emphasis on the last 4 words: "or into the roadway."
You really think shooting someone who is screaming and yelling at you would constitute as self defense?? Ya your going to be in for a real suprise on that one
you serious !! your supost to cross a double lane roadway all in one shot ?? most cases thats hard to do with the amounts of trafic ? what state is that
idc who it is....if you were the guy that white suv and opened your door to my car like that...then im sure as hell gonna flip out...its just a reaction....im not gonna sit in my car and wine like a little bitch lol
i would have literally dumped the clutch into him, and blame it on him scaring me. piece of shit, i dont care how nice he was, everyone has the ability to control thier actions. i literally would have run him over.
Of course you're left of centre, you're making a left turn. What's up with this asshole and these dumbshit commentators saying your driving is incorrect? Waiting for both directions to clear when you have this big fuckoff median to safely stop and give way in? Please.
You mean that in some other state it's legal to do what you did? The other guy really needs to work on his temper, but you really really need to learn some common sence driving rules.
Actually yes, to the best of my knowledge that maneuver is legal here in CA. Not only that the state encourages it by sometimes placing special lanes on the left after the intersection. Where you can stop and yield to though traffic, or use it as an acceleration lane to merge into trough traffic. Personally I think its dangerous. Regardless if legal or not, the driver of the that white truck is so far out of line. It's ridicules.
I didn't know it at the time, but then, after some discussing on: watch?v=qvzkI9YxSNY I found out you have the craziest traffic rules in some US states. Although I don't know what would happen if this was in CA, because even if stopping there is allowed, the white truck is bigger than the black car, so he has priority (in California) because it's harder for him to come to a complete stop.
The trooped said the key difference is it was a stop sign, not a traffic light. If it was a green light then I could creep into the intersection to wait for oncoming traffic to clear.
In this case I was setting off from a stop sign so I could wait for side traffic to clear. He said I have to wait behind the stop sign until I can clear the intersection in one maneuver.
Now Scruit, I appreciate what you've done with your CCTV setup and all, and don't want to insult you. But perhaps you should post up your pillar camera video to prove you didn't give the guy the finger :)
Cool, was that there when I posted? Also can you post the video of your discussion with him? I would have loved to hear what he had to say when he came over to your car. Also I can't make out what he was saying about your fender.
I wish I could do what you're doing in PA. I don't know if I mentioned this before but two kids were arrested and charged with felony wiretapping for taping their traffic stop in Carlisle, PA. It's unlawful to intercept and record audio without the other party knowing AND giving consent - and as you are probably aware, most law enforcement officers FOR SOME REASON always tell you to turn the camera OFF.
The officer asked me to turn the camera off, and I did. I later checked with the local city prosecutor hadnling this case and he told me the police have no power to force me to turn off the camera unless it's interfering with thier duties.
Only reason the officer wanted the camera off was so he / she didn't get recorded. The camera would not have interfered with anything as you didn't have the camera out there sticking in their face. The camera in my car can't be seen from outside very easily unless your looking for it.
One extra fact, most employers don't hire on convictions. Why hire someone with a criminal conviction? For example, two shop lifting conviction are bad because it indicates you steal. With a tight job market, why as an employer would I hire a hot head? Today you can not hide from convictions, EVERYTHING is in some database, the toothpaste you buy, your latest movie rental and yes ALL criminal proceedings even no-contest/no criminal record plea bargains are recorded by private companies, STUPID.
In some intersections you can come out halfway to the protected median if the road is too wide/fast to safely pull out in one go. Event he officer said that he understand that everyone does it and it's safer that way, but the law is the law, regardless of how well it matches real life. I no longer pull out half way (now that I know the law) but some times I can be waiting at this intersection for 10 minutes waiting for both directions to be clear long enough to cross and get up to speed.
In the UK, the Police would never attend something like less. Unless there's "damage to the road" (whatever that means) or someone is injured, they just refuse to get involved. This is why I now also film every journey. What has the UK come to?
It's the same in the US and the UK. A car accident is civil, not criminal. Unless there is an injury, a risk of injury or an actual crime (as above) the police in many jurisdictions won't attend - they have you download a form to fill out with the accident details.
In this case the first 911 call brought a State Trooper to respond to an accident / blocked road. He punted to the County Sheriff when he figured out it was a crime, not an accident.
His He said; "You're left of center dumb f*ck. I go on this side and you go that side." I responded by pointing at the camera to let him know he was being filmed. I never said anything to him. His argument was that I had pulled out from a side street and wait waiting in the median. I thought it was ok do that. He was right re: driving maneuver, although it was not excuse for him slamming his door into my fender.
I guess I don't understand why It would be illegal to stop there and wait to turn...seems to me it would be safer doing that then trying to race thru both.
I agree with you, however the state trooper on the scene told me that I was supposed ot wait behidn the stop line until I could cross both lanes at the same time.
good. :)
LanciaTek 1 week ago
Hehehe 'Criminal mischief'
leepgtips 3 weeks ago
The other thing is that a junction like this would have had white lines painted on it directing drivers where to go so that situation such as this would not arise. Some call it the nanny state, but it probably would've prevented the dented wing.
Batters56 1 month ago
Haha because crossing 4 opposing lanes of traffic at 70mph is much less dangerous than crossing 2, checking and then crossing/joining the other 2. What is possibly gained (apart from fines) from saying you're not allowed to stop in the central reservation? I'm from the uk where stopping (if you need to) is the accepted method at this type of junction.
Batters56 1 month ago
well deserved victory but what did YOU do to piss him off
henshooten 2 months ago
@scruit
You should get a fine for being a stupid fuck
Triviaguy99 2 months ago
I think in most states you cannot use the middle lane as a merging lane. Still, seems like things ended well, especially if the dude shook your hand.
T3hArchAngelG 3 months ago
How weird...in Oregon you're allowed to use he center lane to wait for traffic to clear. In fact, you have to do it during rush hour otherwise you wouldn't get anywhere.
kyogre6444 2 months ago
At last someone smart. You made a mistake, he overreacted, got out and lost control, being violent. You stayed in your car and called the cops. This is what smart people do.
machintruc313 3 months ago
..so did you make him pay for it?
93bradley 4 months ago
@93bradley The judge ordered restitution and he paid it.
Scruit 4 months ago
Why does the U.S have different road laws for individual states?
That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
shabba1966 4 months ago 2
@shabba1966 Because if road traffic laws were enforced nationwide court then you would have to got to federal court for your tickets.
I agree that the rules of the road shoudl be defined nationwide, maybe by the DOT, and all states should be required to model their traffic laws after the nationwide standard.
Scruit 4 months ago
@Scruit thanks
shabba1966 4 months ago
@Scruit If all laws were done as a national thing and not by state it would save on a lot of problems and confusion.
RandyDarkshade2 2 months ago
@shabba1966 I always rant about their different emergency vehicle lighting and marking laws... they vary between cities, counties and states. Possibly a recipe for disaster too.
04smallmj 2 months ago
lol awwe good ole entertaining road rage!
feragrams1st 5 months ago
aww a nice happy ending.
letmeinspencer 6 months ago
@letmeinspencer Not his favorite kind of "happy ending".
Scruit 6 months ago
you have different traffic laws in every state when it is the same country?
rraaffbb 6 months ago
@rraaffbb Yes. The laws surrounding the operation of motor vehicles are set at the state level. Some states allow you to enter an intersection on green and wait for oncoming traffic to clear before you make a left turn. Some don't
Some consider states will only ticket you if you pass the stop bar while the light is red - some states will ticket you for being inside the intersection when it is red even if you entered on yellow.
Some states allow right turns at a red light, some don't.
Scruit 6 months ago
Should have whipped out your Glock. Shot the asshole's thumbs off. And as he's laying on the ground bleeding in quite amount of pain, ask him how he's going to play with himself for the rest of his miserable life....... jackass.......
TheArtisansWorkshop 7 months ago
To the Poster: Thank you, thank you, thank you for not using any of those worn out soundtracks youtube has. THANK YOU!
oldfart387 7 months ago 2
Its always good at the end to shake hands and leave no hurt feelings. Its the road to the right path.
wildcatfan42 7 months ago
one time a accidentaly tapped a middle aged womens car door with a shopping bag, when me and my dad were walking away i turned around and saw hitting our car with her door and scrating it with a key. it cost us $850 in the end.
MrSUPERrandomkid123 8 months ago
@MrSUPERrandomkid123 I think I would've killed the bitch if that happened to me.
gcrebel2008 8 months ago
@gcrebel2008 me and my dad drove around for an hour trying to find her and "take care of it"
MrSUPERrandomkid123 8 months ago
So u got a ticket for doing something wrong that u didnt know was illegal in that state.
Buildinup6 8 months ago
@Buildinup6 No ticket, as no accident resulted.
Scruit 8 months ago
Yeh, you can't pull out to the middle of the intersection. Same with a left turn green arrow for a left turn with a light. Once must wait until traffic is clear in both directions. It is dangerous pulling out into the middle of the intersection for a left turn. One could be side swiped or killed by oncoming traffic. Just my two cents.
SilverFox466 8 months ago
I never understood why people pull out halfway for any reason at all. It's traffic impediment. But the other guy does need anger management. ^_^
FinalFan0 8 months ago
Did i hear a Subaru?
flevostad 8 months ago
@flevostad Yup. 2005 Legacy GT
Scruit 8 months ago
@Scruit So u got a ticket for doing something wrong that u didnt know was illegal in that state.
Buildinup6 8 months ago
@Scruit Makes no sense shaking hands with morons like that..Why would you shake his hand?
GTnumber1 8 months ago
as soon as he stepped out he would have had a gun in his face, bet that calms him down....
MrGovernment502 9 months ago
I assume you probly cut him off by saying you got in his way. Not really knowing the story in detail, still the guy was a idiot doing what he did. Rather him having a bad day, good day, or just a ok day he got what he deserved. Road rage is a waste of time and for people who promote it really are unhappy with themselves. Anyway those of us who drive have made mistakes on the road and if some driver says they haven't than there're a liar. But to think road rage will make it all better is wrong!
JetsetUnited 10 months ago
It doesn't matter if you made a mistake...you may have been responsible if there was an accident. But even so, you are NOT responsible for other people acting like douchebags
Stalicone 10 months ago
It took me a couple times watching the first 20 seconds or so to see what you meant. At times when you have to get across a busy 4 lane roadyou get in the middle. I have done what you done a bunch of times. I understand your thinking busy fast road easier to turn behind you. You were out of the way, like I said I done this a bunch and never had a problem. The guy misread your driving or didn't think what to do.
hotdog2020 10 months ago
@hotdog2020
There is no legal legitimate claim to "misread" driving or nothing thinking about what to do. There are legal rules of the road that you must follow. It doesn't matter if you do something you feel is logical--if it's illegal then it's illegal.
The legal rule of the road here is to treat the median area the same as the road. Scruit should have pulled out and kept to the right. The truck should have passed Scruit on Scruit's left like any other roadway. Scruit is at fault.
launchpaad88 9 months ago
@launchpaad88 According to the letter of the law, you are wrong too. I should have stayed behind the stop sign until I could make my left turn in one motion. The reason I went left is that the roads do not intersect at 90deg and my staying right I would have made the pickup have to make a slower and sharper turn. By moving to the left he could make a faster and shallower turn behind me. Most people appreciate this gesture.
Scruit 9 months ago
@Scruit
A valid point cannot be made against my statement when it did not exist in the first place.
launchpaad88 9 months ago
@launchpaad88 Nor can a valid point be made when it is as unclear as yours...
Scruit 9 months ago
@Scruit
Don't you have people to follow around and honk at? You acted like an idiot and someone finally retaliated against you. Not everyone is going to bow down to your obsession with video surveillance--soon enough you'll meet someone who just doesn't give a fuck and has nothing to lose.
launchpaad88 9 months ago
@launchpaad88 Get out of your parents' basement and do something more productive than whine like a little bitch about irrelevant youtube videos.
Scruit 9 months ago
@Scruit
So you post useless, irrelevant youtube videos? Way to promote yourself!
launchpaad88 9 months ago
@launchpaad88 You said useless not me. I said irrelevent. Irrelevant to you.
Stop whining.
Scruit 9 months ago
@railrdr523 In Manitoba, a bike rider is required to have both hands on the handlebars at all times, but cannot make a turn without proper signaling with their arm.
yakovgolyadkin 10 months ago
owned!
sssukaPSN 11 months ago
What state doesn't allow pulling out halfway into a protected median? That seems like a rather stupid law.
yakovgolyadkin 11 months ago
You left the Center dumb Fuck
Thats no way to say hello lol
RichysBikeWorld 11 months ago 7
@RichysBikeWorld So what if I'm Left of Center? My political views are irrelevant... ;-)
Scruit 11 months ago 9
@Scruit hahahaha
RichysBikeWorld 11 months ago
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RichysBikeWorld 11 months ago
Should have done a mandatory 6 months (first offense) for that than longer and longer till he pulls his fucking head out of his ass.
shf84 11 months ago
Then they went back to his place where they both engaged in interco....well, you know the rest!
Kaelin17 11 months ago
i thought america had traffic lights. idiot hillbillies
jimiprono 1 year ago
why were sideways when you should be straight you were hogging the intersection and look to be in his lane of travel to make a left turn
besquell 1 year ago
@besquell You'd have to know the intersection. By pulling forward I actually gave him more room to complete his turn behind me, however he was set on going in front of me. The road intersects at a slight angle, so going behind me reduces the radius of his turn and makes it easier for him. By going in front of me, even before I moved forward, he has to slow down much more and make a much sharper turn.
Scruit 1 year ago
You can tell how Rude or Stupid a person is by the way they drive.
nancyhoralia 1 year ago
No hard feelings? It is not his job to react to you not knowing the traffic laws in that state. Thats what they have officers for. Some small states have some rediculous traffic laws. People like that should also get some mandated anger management.
hm008vaj 1 year ago
If the guy got out and said you can't do that here in this state just to let you know and everything would've been ok. You didn't know and he told you. Both move on their way and you never do that again. But NOOO he has to get out and call you a dumbfuck and smash y our car with his door. I would personaly hate to be that guys kid. Quote from Breakfast Club "This is what happens when you spill paint in the garage" Shows cigar burn mark from his dad on his arm.
vexviper 1 year ago
In Russia the person by the white car then long beat
Buffik2000 1 year ago
ohhhhhh my god that guy is such a tool
mrchakabot 1 year ago
Gettin a Cam installed in my van for Insurance reasons...Thanks man
Cognetto 1 year ago
he's lucky--most people would have ripped him out of his truck and beat the shit out of him-i would of
cbra66 1 year ago
Jesus, what a dick head!! Fancy being married to that silly cunt!
Pikesterful 1 year ago
i don't understand why people risk there lives by getting out of the car.
what if you had a gun and shot him... people are stupid.
WoWdOm18 1 year ago
Im 17, and already had my fair shair of road rage. People drive like idiots in Ohio, I live in West Chester, guy almost hit me after he ran a red light, got out with a belt. Now I have a nice big wrench in my back seat : )
TheOriginalBigO 1 year ago
even if you where in the wrong buddy for trying to merge like that, in no way what this idiot did ok. no excuse for it. i admire your ability to forgive and forget though, i woudnt have been able to! :) i would have slammed on the gas as soon as the dumbass started talking since iv had my share of these situations and usually when the "tough guy" starts talking vehicle damage is just right round the corner ;) good on you for staying calm though. what did he do when he came round to ur side???
TheOxTube 1 year ago 2
@TheOxTube Whenhe got round to my side he said he was calling the police. Not sure if he thought *I* was going to be in trouble or if he was turning himself in for the damage... Either way, I'm glad he did as I had left my cellphone at home.
Scruit 1 year ago 3
Where was this in Ohio? It looks pretty familiar.
What set him off did you ever figure it out?
Good thing you had that camera!
xxhaloownerxx 1 year ago
Easy money!
ZangLangVang 1 year ago
You should have punched him after the hearing
TheDailyToker916 1 year ago
you had teh balls to admit your mistake, the guy overreacted, but finally you shook hands - thumbs up for both of you.
Ati
TheRealAti 1 year ago
It's good that he got arrested and had to pay for the ddamage to your car. Maybe next time he'll think before doing something stupid. At least you got it on tape.
hunhun23 1 year ago
@scruit, you sir are my idol. and what kinda camera u using? cuz im 16 and i hav a feeling i need 1..
Tungsten23 1 year ago
I didnt notice any vehicle contact!!!!!!!!
19casino 1 year ago
@19casino There was no vehicle contact until his door struck my fender. You can see my car rock from the impact of his door.
Scruit 1 year ago 4
@Scruit Oh yeah. It helps if I watch the whole video.
lemonrind 1 year ago
@19casino TRY GLASSES.....LMAO
kegler27 1 year ago
@19casino You didn't hear that thump??
Cognetto 1 year ago
I'm confused...how exactly was this criminal damage? Isn't this a civil tort. He damaged your property isn't that a civil suit not criminal?
Kartracer6 1 year ago
@Kartracer6 Intentional destruction of the property of another is criminal. Accidental, reckless or negligent (or otherwise not intentional) destruction of property is a civil tort.
Scruit 1 year ago
@Scruit that's weird...I always thought it was only criminal when it was a broken law or a crime upon civilization and not just a private party.
Kartracer6 1 year ago
@Kartracer6 There are lasws against intentionally damaging someone's property - that makes it a crime. In Ohio:
2909.07 (A) (1) covers Criminal Mischief.
(No person shall,) without privilege to do so, knowingly move, deface, damage, destroy, or otherwise improperly tamper with the property of another.
"knowingly" basically means intentionally in this case. If the damage was accidental then it wasn't "knowingly".
Scruit 1 year ago
Dude, you were blocking the other driver's ability to exit the road. You should have gotten a ticket for your share of the blame. To come on here and act like you're some kind of hero is pretty bad. The guy had every right to be pissed off, and to exit his vehicle. He could have even argued that your vehicle prevented him from exiting his vehicle, as well as the road, so he had to use equal force.
RepublicanDumbAss 2 years ago
I took the blame (several times) in the video captions and in the description, for the driving maneuver. However as is didn't result in an accident it's irrelevant . No harm, no foul, move on.
He had absolutely no right to get out and approach me in an agressive manner, nor to intentionally damage my car - an opinion shared by the police and courts and evidenced by the Disordely Conduct and Criminal Mischief charges.
The police and courts would explain it to you too, if you did the same.
Scruit 2 years ago
Looks like hwy 99 in Oregon ? Looked like Oregon state police too.
MrMakavellii 2 years ago
Self-Defense is meeting force with equal force. If I guy were to go off on you in a yelling rage shooting him would not constitute as self defense. I agree that Gun control laws don't work but you also must be responsable with guns. also if you did this incident and the other driver "went off on you" don't you think your still responsible for escalating this incident?
Kartracer6 2 years ago
Generally, you cannot use deadly force unless deadly force is used (or is imminent). Different states/countries have different rules (some allow it to stop a rape, some don't. Some say you can't shoot someone who only has a knife, other say deadly is deady regardless of weapon be it a gun/knife/kick in the head etc) - but I know of no legal system that allows deadly force in response to swearing or vandalism.
I'm a UK expat but I prefer US self defense laws. Still, must be reasonable.
Scruit 2 years ago
There are many laws that the police don't have the time / energy / motivation / funding / (whatever) to enforce. That becomes an issue in and of itself.
Accidents happen when someone does something unexpected. Around here there are many places where almost everyone breaks the rules that the one person actually complying with the law is unexpected and can cause accidents.
I can't count how many times I've nearly been rear-ended stopping at a stop sign. You're expected to run it.
Scruit 2 years ago
Reasonableness is up to the jury. In Ohio (where this video was made) the attacker must have means, motive, opportunity and you still have a duty to not escalate and a duty to flee.
In this situation I'm ok from the attacker-motive and duty-to-not-escalate perspectives, however the attacker has no visible means of doing me deadly harm, nor am I aware of him having any opportunity to deploy the non-existent weapon. Further, I can back up and drive away.
Deadly force is not justifiable.
Scruit 2 years ago
@Blockygraphics watch your mouth dip shit !! your the type of person who walks into a bar stirs up the pot ,then gets his mouth smashed ! who then crys to the police, you do.....i dont live in the states jackass this is not an illegal move where i live and i was asking a question not stating a fact ,bloody moron
kinghoho2 2 years ago
In some states you can use the center turn lane as a staging area to make a left turn onto a road.
Example: RCW 46.61.290 3 (a) states: ... A two-way left turn lane is near the center of the roadway set aside for use by vehicles making left turns in either direction from or into the roadway.
Emphasis on the last 4 words: "or into the roadway."
Scruit 2 years ago
You really think shooting someone who is screaming and yelling at you would constitute as self defense?? Ya your going to be in for a real suprise on that one
Kartracer6 2 years ago
you serious !! your supost to cross a double lane roadway all in one shot ?? most cases thats hard to do with the amounts of trafic ? what state is that
kinghoho2 2 years ago 2
This is Ohio. You must cross all 4 lanes in one shot, from a stop sign, between two 55mph roads.
It's possible, you just have to wait longer for a double space to open up.
Scruit 2 years ago
cop caller...
u should have f*** him up, take his wallet, make sure he has not seen ur plates
The benefits:
- 0 costs
- some extra cash
- u save ur honor NOT talking to pigs
- big f**** smile on ur face "i'm still a man - "i can protect myself and my own goods"
How about that? :P
cabajp 2 years ago
and really come on your gonna shot someone....what kinda person are you??? lol
andytaurus 2 years ago
idc who it is....if you were the guy that white suv and opened your door to my car like that...then im sure as hell gonna flip out...its just a reaction....im not gonna sit in my car and wine like a little bitch lol
andytaurus 2 years ago
Yet, the situation was resolved, my car was fixed, nobody was in any danger.
Flipping out would not have improved the situation. However I will step back and allow you your moment of e-thugging.
Scruit 2 years ago
i would have literally dumped the clutch into him, and blame it on him scaring me. piece of shit, i dont care how nice he was, everyone has the ability to control thier actions. i literally would have run him over.
dtwrx06 2 years ago
once someone opened there door to my car like that...then its over i would flip the fuck out...no one hits my car!!
andytaurus 2 years ago 2
lolol.....will your girlfriend post bail? lolol
232323C 2 years ago
Of course you're left of centre, you're making a left turn. What's up with this asshole and these dumbshit commentators saying your driving is incorrect? Waiting for both directions to clear when you have this big fuckoff median to safely stop and give way in? Please.
panictactics 2 years ago
dude, what an asshole. im glad he got arrested. i hope he sees this vidoe on here and thinks, "wow over 15000 people think im a jackass..."
choochoostites 2 years ago 34
who cares if u were in the wrong that fuck head shuldnt have slammed his door into your "renatl car" lol
MrmeatyJY 2 years ago
the camera gives you right to piss off people and then hide behind it
bozirob 2 years ago
camera tells doesn't lie
3Fez4 2 years ago 3
it's comical how people get so pissed to the point of needing to inflict physical damage over the dumbest things.
mattbjrs 2 years ago
You mean that in some other state it's legal to do what you did? The other guy really needs to work on his temper, but you really really need to learn some common sence driving rules.
IuTiubTM 2 years ago 20
Actually yes, to the best of my knowledge that maneuver is legal here in CA. Not only that the state encourages it by sometimes placing special lanes on the left after the intersection. Where you can stop and yield to though traffic, or use it as an acceleration lane to merge into trough traffic. Personally I think its dangerous. Regardless if legal or not, the driver of the that white truck is so far out of line. It's ridicules.
an80sGuy 2 years ago
@an80sGuy
I didn't know it at the time, but then, after some discussing on: watch?v=qvzkI9YxSNY I found out you have the craziest traffic rules in some US states. Although I don't know what would happen if this was in CA, because even if stopping there is allowed, the white truck is bigger than the black car, so he has priority (in California) because it's harder for him to come to a complete stop.
IuTiubTM 2 years ago
@IuTiubTM In georgia you can do it, so no he doesn't need driving skills. You need to get ur facts straight
IIJasonSII 1 year ago
@IuTiubTM And I'm sure YOU have NEVER make a mistake while driving...
JVPRCNG 7 months ago
Ouch! "Criminal Mischief?" I agree with the comment(s) before: Wouldn't want that on me on a background search.
This video feed is good. You should post a video with exactly how you set all this up. Road Ragers aren't limited to Central Ohio. LOL
HiBitDrifter 2 years ago 2
I'm just glad everything is ok
anvil357 2 years ago
Whereabouts is this? That's an amazing looking sky by the way. Must be lovely there. (sorry if my comment doesn't pertain to road rage)
adamcharney 2 years ago
Central Ohio. There's plenty of sky because we don't believe in "hills".
Scruit 2 years ago
Hill-athiest! lol
adamcharney 2 years ago
Why did you have the camera in the first place? Just curious.
all4golf 2 years ago
Because people lie when they cause an accident.
Scruit 2 years ago
So you always have a camera on?
all4golf 2 years ago
Permanently installed fully automated dashcam that requires no driver intervention to record.
Scruit 2 years ago
That's pretty cool.
all4golf 2 years ago
Good idea!!
bombomb09 2 years ago
How do you mount your camera? cause I want to do the same with my car too, just in case this happens..
Tom15 2 years ago
I use the suction cup from a RAM mount, and a piece of aluminum bent into shape.
Scruit 2 years ago
Did you use a regular video camera?
Tom15 2 years ago
I use a CCTV camera, like a Toshiba IK-6410 or similar. Smaller is better, but it *must* be auto-iris otherwise it'll get blinded by low sun.
Scruit 2 years ago
0:56 thats what he said
mewwrestling 2 years ago
So, you're waiting in the median, and this guy hits you? That's stupid by the other driver.
Waiting in the median for traffic to clear is safe. So, it's illegal in your state? Or what?
Bryant5493 2 years ago
The trooped said the key difference is it was a stop sign, not a traffic light. If it was a green light then I could creep into the intersection to wait for oncoming traffic to clear.
In this case I was setting off from a stop sign so I could wait for side traffic to clear. He said I have to wait behind the stop sign until I can clear the intersection in one maneuver.
Scruit 2 years ago
That's crazy. Doing it like the trooper told you would take you forever.
Bryant5493 2 years ago 3
Thats the law though, you cant just ignore them because you think its stupid.
YesIamAPilot 2 years ago
That's agreeable. I just feel driving laws should be uniform from state-to-state, because of situations like this.
Bryant5493 2 years ago
Now Scruit, I appreciate what you've done with your CCTV setup and all, and don't want to insult you. But perhaps you should post up your pillar camera video to prove you didn't give the guy the finger :)
christofurg 2 years ago
I posted the quad shot (all 4 cameras) as a video response to this video. :-)
Scruit 2 years ago
Cool, was that there when I posted? Also can you post the video of your discussion with him? I would have loved to hear what he had to say when he came over to your car. Also I can't make out what he was saying about your fender.
christofurg 2 years ago
I wish I could do what you're doing in PA. I don't know if I mentioned this before but two kids were arrested and charged with felony wiretapping for taping their traffic stop in Carlisle, PA. It's unlawful to intercept and record audio without the other party knowing AND giving consent - and as you are probably aware, most law enforcement officers FOR SOME REASON always tell you to turn the camera OFF.
christofurg 2 years ago
The officer asked me to turn the camera off, and I did. I later checked with the local city prosecutor hadnling this case and he told me the police have no power to force me to turn off the camera unless it's interfering with thier duties.
Scruit 2 years ago
Only reason the officer wanted the camera off was so he / she didn't get recorded. The camera would not have interfered with anything as you didn't have the camera out there sticking in their face. The camera in my car can't be seen from outside very easily unless your looking for it.
roadmonitoroz 2 years ago
One extra fact, most employers don't hire on convictions. Why hire someone with a criminal conviction? For example, two shop lifting conviction are bad because it indicates you steal. With a tight job market, why as an employer would I hire a hot head? Today you can not hide from convictions, EVERYTHING is in some database, the toothpaste you buy, your latest movie rental and yes ALL criminal proceedings even no-contest/no criminal record plea bargains are recorded by private companies, STUPID.
stevenabb 2 years ago
he must of seen you i think he was dui
deegirlshopping 2 years ago
why wrong with that guy? if he had laid a finger on my shiny 18 wheeler, I would have run my 18 wheeler on his little fingers. LOL
tangnatalaga 2 years ago
wat car u driving looked like M3
timothysipod 2 years ago
2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited
Scruit 2 years ago
lol 3 cops later
sockeron 2 years ago
I suggest you get yourself a V8 powered car so you can pull off the intersection in a breeze. You can't wait for 10mn at an intersection!
grooteschuur62 2 years ago
hey groote, he drives a leggy gt....0-60MPH in around 6 second- plenty fast to keep up with 'V8 powered cars'
TheProphetSTi 2 years ago
He has a turbocharged four cylinder that can probably keep up with or out accelerate most stock v8 cars.
christofurg 2 years ago
Of course you're supposed to wait at the stop sign before you an clear the intersection. At least the irrascible driver didn't assault you!
grooteschuur62 2 years ago
In some intersections you can come out halfway to the protected median if the road is too wide/fast to safely pull out in one go. Event he officer said that he understand that everyone does it and it's safer that way, but the law is the law, regardless of how well it matches real life. I no longer pull out half way (now that I know the law) but some times I can be waiting at this intersection for 10 minutes waiting for both directions to be clear long enough to cross and get up to speed.
Scruit 2 years ago
Tough shit he so deserved it!
madtrucker78 2 years ago
In the UK, the Police would never attend something like less. Unless there's "damage to the road" (whatever that means) or someone is injured, they just refuse to get involved. This is why I now also film every journey. What has the UK come to?
dxg999 2 years ago
My brother is in the GMP...
It's the same in the US and the UK. A car accident is civil, not criminal. Unless there is an injury, a risk of injury or an actual crime (as above) the police in many jurisdictions won't attend - they have you download a form to fill out with the accident details.
In this case the first 911 call brought a State Trooper to respond to an accident / blocked road. He punted to the County Sheriff when he figured out it was a crime, not an accident.
Scruit 2 years ago
you have really good self-control
wadupbraah 2 years ago
All the time this is going on I know the camera is running, and that the footage will be played in court. That made it easier to keep my cool.
Scruit 2 years ago
waiting in the median wasn't obstructing him even if it wasn't allowed...this calls for a beating
tubegangsta 3 years ago 2
What was the comment made and who said it you or him?? What was his argument I'm so confused
Kartracer6 3 years ago
His He said; "You're left of center dumb f*ck. I go on this side and you go that side." I responded by pointing at the camera to let him know he was being filmed. I never said anything to him. His argument was that I had pulled out from a side street and wait waiting in the median. I thought it was ok do that. He was right re: driving maneuver, although it was not excuse for him slamming his door into my fender.
Scruit 3 years ago
I guess I don't understand why It would be illegal to stop there and wait to turn...seems to me it would be safer doing that then trying to race thru both.
Kartracer6 3 years ago 4
I agree with you, however the state trooper on the scene told me that I was supposed ot wait behidn the stop line until I could cross both lanes at the same time.
Scruit 3 years ago
the guy in the s-10 was wrong t o dent your car ,but accord to your videos your driving sucks.
radiozins 3 years ago
uh, noted.
Scruit 3 years ago
NO HARD FEELINGS LOL
greencard 3 years ago
Talk about someone with a short temper! What a tard.
kickarse 3 years ago
JUSTICE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD!
lloydapalooza 3 years ago
I'd press charges to keep neanderthals like him off the street.
ezrabeau 3 years ago
he paid for the body work right?
mikeashton16 3 years ago