When I heard about flow in sports science in school I realized I had somehow always known about it and experienced it but never realized it was happening.
Csikszentmihalyi is brilliant. I think, however, that the cynicism results from economic scarcities in part, and also has sinister dimensions when seen from an angle of faith.
There is nothing wrong with positivity in human psychology as long as it's consistent with honesty and justice. A potential danger is the risk of imposing mandatory optimism as seen in the manipulative "Appreciative Inquiry" and "Landmark Forum" fads.
These movements provide an easy avenue for the unscrupulous among us to sweep their transgressions under the carpet and avoid judgement.
Mihaly mistakes CRITICISM for Cynicism. Criticism is a creature of Academia.
Cynicism is living with nature; being in freedom, self-sufficient, the individual as the moral unit; being a master of mental attitude; free from influence of fame or power; unshacked from convention; mixing of humor, fearless truth telling, and political subversion to expose others and the error of their ways.
The Cynical Way requires continuous training of mind and body for fundamental positive living.
With respect, you miss the point. The use of "Cynical" today is not the Greek form; where the cynic lives, as the etymology of the word suggests, like a dog.
Neither do I think he is talking about people being reflective, thoughtful, and questioning - watching for error and oversight. He is getting at something pernicious - that is: having a default position that is negative, and assuming malice as standard.
Not quite sure what your problem is with the simple idea that the ways words are used changes from time to time. Go to your local library and ask for a book on language usage. Or better still, go live with a group of pedants who insist on living in the style of the distant past and using language in an anachronistic way. Whatever tickles your fancy. Just please stop being an ass. By that I don't mean that you are literally an anus or an animal that is a distant relative of the horse!
So in your world, you can use "judaism" anyway you want, that you can use "catholicism" anyway that you want?
For you're insulting cynics who live by cynicism everywhere.
Mihaly misuses a slew of words -- proud, cynicism, faith, progress, values, science, happier.
Worse, he expresses false belief about how society works and lacks knowing about the connection between persuasion, group dynamics, indoctrination and derived effects against individuals.
Mihaly does not misuse "a slew of words" as you suggest. Listen to what he says. Listen to the context in which he says it.
Consider the question put to him about how the attitude of cynicism came about in modern culture. He makes an interesting observation; though one that has been articulated since the end of the Great War (WW1).
You really need to be sure of your terms and know what is being said if your intention is to saying something meaningful. Perhaps you were having a bad day.
"TruthAxe" is that a play on "True Ass"? There are a slew of people like you on YouTube who seem to get off on being attention-seeking, nit-picking dunderheads. If you are sincere in your comments - then fine - you're just plain wrong - it's nothing some listening and reading won't cure. But if you're simply being contrary and argumentative because you think it's funny or smart - you can be ignored as part of the wallpaper of fools. You're coming off as a dull and mean-spirit, pedant.
Not quite sure what you hope to gain by making an offensive comment about medication. We can only conclude that you're being grossly offensive to people who require medication and their family and friends who witness the negative side effects of mental illness. You're a dispicable individual with a misguided superior attitude. Consider the conversation closed.
"no doubt truthaxe is a precocious ten year old trying to pester the adults" Well , actually. he seems to be the only adult comenting on this trash. this is nothing more than mind control. critical thinking is dying. people need to question every thing. and not just accept all things. this is why we are where are today. if you can't see this philosophy for what it is. then you are truly doomed.
Some seem to believe that Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi is having a pop at critical thinking. I don't think so. From what he says he seems to be having a go at contrariness that passes itself off as critical thinking. It is easy to take an anti position on authority or society for example. But becoming negative and sneering about everything is as toxic as dictatorship.
I think he is warning against a complete collapse of trust when discerning is more appropriate.
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This is not new people, come on we have always know it. Its all about getting back to just being human. The expectations we have placed on ourselves to achive what we percieve to be happiness, is in fact the reason why we are not happy!!
Thank you for posting this video! The Psychology of Flow was a book that really gave structure to my young notions that we do in fact control our own consciousness, and we do the ability to decide what we allow into our reality, that we do create our own realities every moment of every day.
He is not the first who speaks about flow or spiritual experience as optimal experience. Franklin Merrell-Wolff is a great philosopher who actually left the academic environments to follow spiritual paths.He develop an own practice of mathematical yoga and archived the satori.
Rudolf Steiner is the greatest esoteric thinker. He developed an holistic model of spiritual life!
Religions provide hope, and I'm guessing a kind of hope that Secularism can't provide. But why can't religions incorporate the findings of Positive Psychology into their beliefs? My fundamental Christian mother does this quite well, and I've never heard anyone even suggest she's fearful, hateful, or intolerant. Most people take an instant liking to her. I'm a Secularist myself.
positive psychology and introspection are necessary for optimal experience on earth. however, religion adds a sense of security for the afterlife to some people.
Because perhaps it will shatter the illusion of truth that religions demand their followers prescribe to, an illusion that generates more hate, fear, misunderstanding and intolerance than it does love and positive change. Religion is blind, religion is the ultimate tradgedy.
It's a free world isn't it? Sometimes I wish it wasn't, but for many things it's good. And haven't you ever set your alarm clock 5 minutes late in hopes of getting up on time?
I would have to disagree with your last sentense. Only because religion is often based on one thing: kindness and respect for your fellow man. How people use their religion through history is my basis for analysis. I love debating this.
Positive Psychology, coupled with introspection and meditation is the greatest replacement for religion. When will we the religious-minded understand this...?
put positive psychology, introspection and meditation into use and use them instead of worrying how to replace this or that thing that you find grating on this planet. amplify the good, don't just try and beat everyone on the head with the one-truth, dont try and convince them of the error of their ways, show them a better way, but show it by acting on it and making a difference.
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enriquecetupsicologia. com
Thanks.
PsicologiaPositivaP 4 days ago
academians are yummy but greasy.
MeHigh writes very engaging books on his subject of the psychology of Flow.
Thank you Mihaly. I will pop open a NeHi Orange in your honor.
DancingSpiderman 1 year ago
Compassionate instead of competitive? Interesting. I like it.
WordofMobile 1 year ago
When I heard about flow in sports science in school I realized I had somehow always known about it and experienced it but never realized it was happening.
utdfortreble 1 year ago
Csikszentmihalyi is brilliant. I think, however, that the cynicism results from economic scarcities in part, and also has sinister dimensions when seen from an angle of faith.
olmgitnhftws 1 year ago
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TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
Pioneering Psychologist WIN
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mehhh15 2 years ago 7
Thanks for conducting and posting this video. I actually enjoy this interview more than the more formal 2008 TED talk.
KemptonLam 2 years ago
There is nothing wrong with positivity in human psychology as long as it's consistent with honesty and justice. A potential danger is the risk of imposing mandatory optimism as seen in the manipulative "Appreciative Inquiry" and "Landmark Forum" fads.
These movements provide an easy avenue for the unscrupulous among us to sweep their transgressions under the carpet and avoid judgement.
sweetsweatyfeet 2 years ago
Mihaly mistakes CRITICISM for Cynicism. Criticism is a creature of Academia.
Cynicism is living with nature; being in freedom, self-sufficient, the individual as the moral unit; being a master of mental attitude; free from influence of fame or power; unshacked from convention; mixing of humor, fearless truth telling, and political subversion to expose others and the error of their ways.
The Cynical Way requires continuous training of mind and body for fundamental positive living.
TruthAxe 3 years ago
With respect, you miss the point. The use of "Cynical" today is not the Greek form; where the cynic lives, as the etymology of the word suggests, like a dog.
Neither do I think he is talking about people being reflective, thoughtful, and questioning - watching for error and oversight. He is getting at something pernicious - that is: having a default position that is negative, and assuming malice as standard.
megayaweh247 2 years ago 3
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The misuse of "cynical" reflects his ignorance.
What makes you an apologist for ignorance?
Sloppy misuse of language is the pestilence that causes problems among humans.
In his deep ignorance, he said mistakenly 'cynicism' when, if he were of higher intellect, would have said 'criticism'.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
Not quite sure what your problem is with the simple idea that the ways words are used changes from time to time. Go to your local library and ask for a book on language usage. Or better still, go live with a group of pedants who insist on living in the style of the distant past and using language in an anachronistic way. Whatever tickles your fancy. Just please stop being an ass. By that I don't mean that you are literally an anus or an animal that is a distant relative of the horse!
megayaweh247 2 years ago 3
You amuse.
Concepts remain invariant. Words get misused through ignorance.
Mostly, academicians and foreigners are to blame for this.
Take happiness. Happiness is the degree to which a man wants to act under unfolding circumstances.
Dummies believe it to mean the degree of gladness or being contented
TruthAxe 2 years ago
So in your world, you can use "judaism" anyway you want, that you can use "catholicism" anyway that you want?
For you're insulting cynics who live by cynicism everywhere.
Mihaly misuses a slew of words -- proud, cynicism, faith, progress, values, science, happier.
Worse, he expresses false belief about how society works and lacks knowing about the connection between persuasion, group dynamics, indoctrination and derived effects against individuals.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
Mihaly does not misuse "a slew of words" as you suggest. Listen to what he says. Listen to the context in which he says it.
Consider the question put to him about how the attitude of cynicism came about in modern culture. He makes an interesting observation; though one that has been articulated since the end of the Great War (WW1).
You really need to be sure of your terms and know what is being said if your intention is to saying something meaningful. Perhaps you were having a bad day.
megayaweh247 2 years ago 6
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You use terms in mathematics. You use words in speaking.
You're as confused and ignorant as Mihaly.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
"TruthAxe" is that a play on "True Ass"? There are a slew of people like you on YouTube who seem to get off on being attention-seeking, nit-picking dunderheads. If you are sincere in your comments - then fine - you're just plain wrong - it's nothing some listening and reading won't cure. But if you're simply being contrary and argumentative because you think it's funny or smart - you can be ignored as part of the wallpaper of fools. You're coming off as a dull and mean-spirit, pedant.
megayaweh247 2 years ago 7
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You amuse.
You respond, yet again to posts writen over a month ago.
You responded then and you've started up again.
Talk about attention-seeking.
Did you fall off your meds?
TruthAxe 2 years ago
Not quite sure what you hope to gain by making an offensive comment about medication. We can only conclude that you're being grossly offensive to people who require medication and their family and friends who witness the negative side effects of mental illness. You're a dispicable individual with a misguided superior attitude. Consider the conversation closed.
megayaweh247 2 years ago 4
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You lack the power to declare any "conversation closed".
Yet, this reveals your false belief about your "misguided superior attitude".
*pat* *pat* Run along now.
And remember, Cynics are positive persons. Cynicism is a positive doctrine.
Mihaly is dumb here.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
"no doubt truthaxe is a precocious ten year old trying to pester the adults" Well , actually. he seems to be the only adult comenting on this trash. this is nothing more than mind control. critical thinking is dying. people need to question every thing. and not just accept all things. this is why we are where are today. if you can't see this philosophy for what it is. then you are truly doomed.
wakeupsense 2 years ago
Some seem to believe that Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi is having a pop at critical thinking. I don't think so. From what he says he seems to be having a go at contrariness that passes itself off as critical thinking. It is easy to take an anti position on authority or society for example. But becoming negative and sneering about everything is as toxic as dictatorship.
I think he is warning against a complete collapse of trust when discerning is more appropriate.
megayaweh247 2 years ago
Pedantic much, TruthAxe?
12thDecember 2 years ago
Triggered into action from cognitive dissonance owing to the incessant need to defend your false beliefs much, 12th December?
TruthAxe 2 years ago
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I rest my case.
12thDecember 2 years ago
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@12thDecember "Pedantic much, TruthAxe?"
Just have yourself a happy life, and ignore that argumentative troll.
The solution to dealing with rants from people like that is to just ignore them.
Don't include them in your life, not for one second.
DancingSpiderman 1 year ago
this guy's book is awesome
detroitmadman 3 years ago
Hi, people. If you find some interesting stuff on psychology on youtube, share it with me please. Thanks
Science4life1 3 years ago
I need download some book of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi in spanish, porfavor!!!
antoniojarpa 3 years ago
Learn English. Mihaly did.
doloppost 2 years ago
This way of thinking about flow seems to relate to Heideggers concept of 'falling', falling into work, coping and flowing.
ExMachine 3 years ago
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zelgan90 3 years ago
I have the book "Flow".
xZippy38 3 years ago
This is not new people, come on we have always know it. Its all about getting back to just being human. The expectations we have placed on ourselves to achive what we percieve to be happiness, is in fact the reason why we are not happy!!
Never seek happiness, create it!!!
Any thoughts???............
Peace.
mrWaikato 3 years ago 4
well said!
stormbreezemidnight 2 years ago
His theory on "flow" is definately spot on but this theory of goodness is a bit bias.
hiddenmind 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this video! The Psychology of Flow was a book that really gave structure to my young notions that we do in fact control our own consciousness, and we do the ability to decide what we allow into our reality, that we do create our own realities every moment of every day.
realityhackers 3 years ago 3
this is a great book.
GoatZombie 4 years ago 2
He is not the first who speaks about flow or spiritual experience as optimal experience. Franklin Merrell-Wolff is a great philosopher who actually left the academic environments to follow spiritual paths.He develop an own practice of mathematical yoga and archived the satori.
Rudolf Steiner is the greatest esoteric thinker. He developed an holistic model of spiritual life!
0artgirl0 4 years ago
and then there's Walter Russell, one of the unsung scientist/sculptor/painter/poet/composer/architect/philosophers of our times.
youarelackluster 3 years ago
Religions provide hope, and I'm guessing a kind of hope that Secularism can't provide. But why can't religions incorporate the findings of Positive Psychology into their beliefs? My fundamental Christian mother does this quite well, and I've never heard anyone even suggest she's fearful, hateful, or intolerant. Most people take an instant liking to her. I'm a Secularist myself.
Gokunama 4 years ago
check out David R. Hawkins
petyk000 2 years ago
I am tagging all my science-oriented videos with "TomScience" in case you all would like to see more of them.
munnecke 4 years ago
positive psychology and introspection are necessary for optimal experience on earth. however, religion adds a sense of security for the afterlife to some people.
iposacanuca 4 years ago
Agreed. But religious-minded people aren´t necessarily interested in replacing religion, right?
aliblasko 4 years ago 2
Because perhaps it will shatter the illusion of truth that religions demand their followers prescribe to, an illusion that generates more hate, fear, misunderstanding and intolerance than it does love and positive change. Religion is blind, religion is the ultimate tradgedy.
lookfordirtfinddirt 4 years ago
It's a free world isn't it? Sometimes I wish it wasn't, but for many things it's good. And haven't you ever set your alarm clock 5 minutes late in hopes of getting up on time?
I would have to disagree with your last sentense. Only because religion is often based on one thing: kindness and respect for your fellow man. How people use their religion through history is my basis for analysis. I love debating this.
cybbles 4 years ago
Positive Psychology, coupled with introspection and meditation is the greatest replacement for religion. When will we the religious-minded understand this...?
x9one9x 4 years ago
Why are you so concerned that the religious minded DO understand it?
dexile 4 years ago
put positive psychology, introspection and meditation into use and use them instead of worrying how to replace this or that thing that you find grating on this planet. amplify the good, don't just try and beat everyone on the head with the one-truth, dont try and convince them of the error of their ways, show them a better way, but show it by acting on it and making a difference.
don't fight forces, use them (bucky)
youarelackluster 3 years ago
Be like bamboo, bend with the wind. Be like water, flow through cracks and channels.
TruthAxe 3 years ago