Yeah 'nick21sammy' is right. the engine cowling at the top of the engine means its a Rolls Royce Melin powering the aircraft. So that means it's a Spanish Hispano HA 1112 (real 109s were powered by an inverted Daimler-Benz engine - hense why the cowling is at the bottom of real 109s. Hispano 1112s were never used by the Germans. So this must be some unused footage from the Battle of Britain film in 1969. But its damn realistic though!
too bad its not real footage, its a Spanish Buchon Me-109 (an Me-109 with an oversized cowling) they were used for the 60's movie "Battle of britain" it could be this was filmed during one of their practice flights, to practice the dogfight routine and an Me-109 had a camera put into its gun port to film it
Even at the low rez I'm nearly positive that these are real planes. If it's fake it's lifted from a film that used state of the art high budget effects. ILM et al could pull this off... but... as a WWII piston engined air-war nerd, and film nerd in general I figure I would have seen this scene.
@darkmossie633 Loved watching a documentry when he said "i should like a squardon of spitfires" just goes to show how respected out figthers and aircrew were during the war.
@TheKamikazeMAR The Poles were excellent!!! I've been told sometimes they'd even ram their aircraft into German planes when they ran out of ammo!!! But we still had more British pilots mate, and altogether they shot down the most! ;-) Squadron 303; that's really appropriate, considering the machine gun ammunition was .303 calibre! I salute you; Polish friend!
can someone tell me does anyone still makes the spitfire, can a person buy one,where, and if someone knows what is the price of one of these :) please
For those of you who thinks that German aces did only scores kills on the eastern front are welcome to inquire on the numbers on the western side...they'll be surprise to see that even though the kills are less numerous they still are largely higher than the Americans or the British...
THE FACT REAMAINS THAT AFTER THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN THE GERMAN PILOTS AND ME109s CONTINUED TO SCORE AND CREATE THE WORLD'S BEST ASES LIKE WILLIAM HARTMANN (350+ KILLS IN HIS ME109) AND THIS DESPITE BEING OVERPOWERED IN THE AIR AND FLYING AN OLD AIRCRAFT CREATED IN THE 30TIES.
THE RAF OR SPITFIRE NEVER PERFORMED AS DURING THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN AFTER IT WAS FINISHED,
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Hartman scored his victories in Russia as did most German high scorers. It is also recognised that German tactics encouraged their aircraft to support and set up a few high scoring aces. British and later US tactics were to use our high scoring aces to teach and support other squadron members. Finally the Spit Mk5 was comparable to the 109F at all altitudes below 20000 feet and the Spit 9 was superior to the 109G at all altitudes and the Spit 14 superior to the 109K the same
@eastsaxon100 I agree that most high scoring aces did so on the Eastern front but them they had a lot to shoot at! Western allied pilots had more and more difficulty finding any German planes to shoot at at all. During the Normandy landing there was hardly any Luftwaffe left.If one is to believe Adolf Galand - according to this German ace - he preferred the Spit ober the Me 109. Still the Me 109 was an "old" 20ties design that did remarkably well..
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Hartman scored his victories in Russia as did most German high scorers. It is also recognised that German tactics encouraged their aircraft to support and set up a few high scoring aces. British and later US tactics were to use our high scoring aces to teach and support other squadron members. Finally the Spit Mk5 was comparable to the 109F at all altitudes below 20000 feet and the Spit 9 was superior to the 109G at all altitudes and the Spit 14 superior to the 109K
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Well the Luftwaffe had been planning their war from day one and had the advantage of the paramilitary gliding clubs, eg the DLV, the base at Litbesk near Moscow which trained an awful lot of the formative flyers and teachers of Luftwaffe tactics and had supported Franco with JG88. The Spitfire and Hurricane were designed as weapons to defend our island. They performed admirably in that role as did the pilots who flew them against an enemy with more experience.
SPITFIRES AND RAF SUPERIOR TO LUFTWAFFE AND ME109?
WRONG!
BOTH HAD EXCELLENT PILOTS AND PLANES BUT THE ENGLISH HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF BIENG OVER THEIR OWN TERRITORY AND THUS HAD NOT TO WORRY ABOUT FUEL SHORTAGE IN A DOGFIGHT OR WHEN SHOT DOWN.
THE BRITS ALSO HAD THE FIRST FUNCIONAL GROUND RADAR.
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Yes but that didnt make them win.... hurricanes and spitfires had better turning circles, so they could outmanouvere the german planes...
Except the spitfire or hurricane couldnt do straight dives, they had to barrel roll over and then dive.
@miltonluvsno1 The early Mark Spits and Hurris had to roll and then dive, but later fuel injected variants didnt. The Luftwaffles could still outclimb though.
ah looks like the hispano version of the 109G in the colours of Joachim Müncheberg's aircraft... this machine visited nz for the 1992 warbirds over wanaka airshow
The kidgerman was in a awfull hurry to get home. In the earlier clip he fired at the smoking spit, then turned back, then looking at buddy get shot not firing a shot?
it would have made sence to attack the wing leader,he was probably the more experienced pilot,so take him out plus the wing man couldnt fire for fear of hitting his own man,cannon shells were not that accurate in flight.
This looked like it was shot in the 60's. Most WW2 fighters had gun cameras in the wings. Not sure where you would put a camera in the nose of a Bf109 as it was all guns and engine. Could not tell if the Bf's were Griffon engined, that would make them probably from the 1968 movie "Battle Of Britain".
this is from one of those simulators. They put you in a little capsule and play the film and move the capsule while the film plays. I remember, i saw it when i was younger. when the second aircraft is shot down, it says it's "because the tail aircraft was too far behind, leaving a space for attack"
Sadly, the ME109 was destroyed in 1999 in a crash that killed the pilot, young Mark Hanna, one of the owners of the Old Flying Machine Company of Duxford, England. I was lucky enough to meet Mark in 1995 - a genuinely nice guy - and he was kind enough to show me his Spitfire (tail number MH434) in detail, and do a bit of an airshow for me and my wife.
I think this is from Eastbourne Air Show. Definitely are the pilot voices too clear for WWII radio technique and I dont know for guncam and voice recorder synchronized clips in 1940-45. And a red-white pylon in 35", like red bull air race.
I Totally agree here with allinpryce.The Hawker Hurricane shot down more enermy aircraft during WW2 than any other plane and anti-aircraft combined and could tke alot of damage too.
For your information, this sequence was shot on the south coast of England, between Eastbourne and Birling Gap, over an area called Beachy Head and the Seven Sisters. You can clearly see the Beachy Head and Belle Tout lighthouses. A similar sequence was shot in the same area for the appalling film Pearl Harbor.
pretty lame move by the spit to attack the lead 109. presented himself as a good target to the 109 wing man. even lamer that the 109 didn't take the shot
inexperienced? more like useless. the 109 wingman should have stayed on the ground for all the use he was. he even managed to blind himself twice by the sun.
from what iv'e seen ,and experienced on a simulator, the wing man was there just for target practice for the enemy ,he sure was not any use to his #1, also why would the spit target the lead plane the easier mark is the wingman
the german pilots should not have let that spitfire out of their sights . i love spitfires and think that they were the greatest plane of the war apart from the 262
Very good footage. Till now I don't know if it is a movie or a game but if the two krauts were in my squadron I supose to kick their arses till I forget it! from Cmdr. Cavelson
Interesting to read that this was based on real footage, but of course the Spitfires would have outturned the 109s, which would then have had to climb to try to get away. 109s could only win when they bounced Spitfires from above.
Gustav was also a killer, people think that the spit was better, people think the BF 109 ( e or g ) was better, it all depended on the day and the fuel and the pilot, the DB601 thru 605 were very high hp engines that were very dependable , just as the rr merlin was, Goering once was asked what he needed to win the war over Britain was a squadron of spits, i think all they really needed was some good fuel and more of it, the db engines were excellent period
@wlh1us itd not abot the fuel, the 109s just had a short range (max capacity) , when they arrived at britain they had just minutes to fight before they had to turn back
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why didnt they just use harrier jump jets that fire ostrich corpses !! why use these silly planes:( if it were i (capitan mongoose) i would use mk2 saab vigen with heat seeking kuntoes, kuntoes r dad chilren
They didn't invent social video sites for anti-social morons, go buy a Nintendo Wii and pretend to fly all the shit you want, and dude change your username I mean 'KUNTER1572'??? :-)))))))
you see the main stay me109 was the emil (e-3 and e-4) but they did use the g-2 and g-6 only later on were they used against russia in massive numbers.
The G entered service well after the Battle, in 1942 if my memory serves me correctly. Even the F showed up too late to see combat in the Battle, but they were the main opponent when the RAF went on the offensive the following year.
These aren't even 109s, they're Buchons - Spanish-built and using Merlin engines, hence the bulges at the top of the cowling rather than the bottom.
I remember from my schoolboy model-making days that the Messerschmidt fighters flown in 1940 were 109E's (with tail struts), and Spitfires used then would have three propellers, and have larger roundels, and that the camouflage colours would be brown and green, not grey and green...
This is real footage, though staged, and used in the Duxford flight simulator, as others have stated. One thing though- a pair of Late mk Spits and 109s, same height, same speed, why don't the spits just turn on them?
OK, idiots, this is phony. Look at the smoke patterns, listen to the "radio chatter," and ask yourself a simple question: WHY IS THERE SOUND? Period gun cameras didn't do that sort of thing. End of. So, Tiggs62, crashtestdummie183, flyingfilipe, and whoever isn't on the first page of comments, fuck right off. It's a vidyagame, you twats. Also, arsenalbilly, fuck you for putting a decent football club's name on this bullshit and not correcting the morons. FUCK OFF.
You need to look through the previous comments. This is real footage, not animated or from any game. It is, however, staged footage of a pair of Me109s engaging a 2 on 2 with a pair of Spitfires, used in the Duxford simulator
Sad and beautiful, many subtleties in there. I am 58yrs and my friends and we grew up with the few survivors of those days. The Lancaster thousand bomber raids. Never again please.
It's real, recorded from an other BF109. which was filming for observation. I really love the part when the spitfire shoots the bf109 for his wingman. really. fuck germany =)
I dunno, it was a brilliant movie despite the obvious unavoidable inaccuracies due to most German (and even Allied) aircraft being very stupidly destroyed once they were taken out of service. Remakes tend to ruin great things, in my experience.
It's not real footage. It was made for a short movie (showscan) IMAX 3D it's called you sat open close and it gave you the feel you were then ..how do you think they recorded there voices?? ..another thing is dogfights never start that low and there not Ha-1112 they have no gun pods ..and 109's have wing vents 1112's do not this flim has 109's with them..notice the engine ports on the RIGHT side ? BTW the TEMPEST MK V was faster then the K4 and the Do 335
of course its not real, they arent firing, the qualy of the pictures arent from that time etc...
not every ha-1112 had gun pods...look at some pics about different ones, there were many without
and where did they get the 109s? in the move "battle of britian" they used also ha-1112 with removed rounds on their wings so that they look like an emil...because they couldnt get real 109s
i dont think so because the plane were watching is not shooting and it looks like were watching in a 109 when the spit comes infront of him a normal pilot would have engaged the spit but he didnt nothing that doesnt make any sence
look it up on wikipedia the spitfire submarine is way faster. this is the second fastest plane in world war II. the fastest plane is a mustang p-40 which runs on a spitfire merlin engine which was developed at the end of the war in europe. rember this plain won the battle of britain..........doh doh
Actually the Hurricane won the Battle of Britain because there were much more Hurricanes with's killed more german planes than the Spitfire did. The fastest plane in WW2 was the Me 162 Komet and the fastest prop plane was the Shinden. I think you compare different versions off the Spitfire and the Me 109. The Me 109E was faster that the mark 1 and those were the ones that fought in the Battle of Britain. Also don't forget that anyone can change wikipedia with doesn't make it an reliable source.
the fastest non jet nor rocket engine plane of ww2 was P-51 mustang.
In general all german fighters had more powerfull planes, engines and firepower. spitfires were more agile in horizontal turns becouse of the wings, but when it comes to vertical or roll they could not follow german messers. Thats why Germans used boom and zoom tactics whenever they could, so they could keep the energy and spped.
I made a commet above about the Tempest being the fastest ..howeer the Tempest and the P-51 shared alot of things design and engines and tactics ..with only the tempest having alittie more on diving
read texts about compare flights with do 335 and ta 152
if youre talking about the fastest single prop, youre right with the ta 152, but i only talked about the fastest prop
the do 335 was a bit faster, but the ta 152 was much cheaper and easier to produce, so the RLM prefered the ta 152
right, special yak 3 models reached a top speed of 720km/h (yak 3A with WK-107A-engine) and the yak 3RD was 780km/h fast, but that isnt a prop, it flew with a rocked engine RD-1ChS
this is a flight sim lol well i say it. It was the old flight sim at duxford showed this. It was a post war flight showing a dogfight between a spitfire and an me109.
this video is not 60 years old no way, plus those planes being shot at where not spitfires they looked like hurricanes slower planes than the spitfires. no german planes could keep up with the spitfires, that's why they won the battle of britain. look it up
Which Mk of Spit are you comparing the 109 to? The Mk9 & Mk XIV Spits will annihilate ANY Me 109 in terms of outright performance, speed, climb & dive performance. The Spit left the 109 behind in terms of development, by 43, the 109 was very much on a back foot.
At the time both the Bf-109 and Bf-110 were designed, Willy Messerschmitt was working at the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (forgive me if I misspelled that), so they carried its initials rather than his own.
It's not. Those are Spanish Hispano Buchons, not Messerschmitts; the Bf109 had an inverted Daimler V-12. The Buchon's engine isn't inverted, the exhaust is high on the nose like a Spit rather than down low.
It's either CGI or live footage shot postwar, there's no way in hell that's authentic WWII footage. Either way, it's a pretty awesome video.
Fool? rephrase that please, your a little obnoxious arnt'tu! Uhm could it possibly be an online flight sim and he's probably using a quad core processer n dual running 2 9800 nvidea graphics cards and ventrillo? possibly? fool?
not real....not unless the war was still being fought post 1951. that is Beachy Head & the 7 Sisters...NOT Dover. the light house was only painted red & white in 1951, before that it was natural stone with black bands around it.
those are Spanish built 109s...not ME 109s, you can tell from the exhaust manifold sits higher on the nose, rather the german 109s engine were mounted upside down thats why u always see the exhaust located on the bottom of the nose just forward of the wing
best way to say what the film is : you go to a fair and pay 2 bucks sit in a small room with this playing the screen was very large This played the a rollercoaster 2 min movie then a race car 2min movie then a underwater sea movie it gave you a feel like you were there
2:11, epic moment
killer30k 1 month ago
this is the same video thats in the simulator thing at duxford except backround voice is in english at duxford
callum988 2 months ago
long live the queen.
BeNnN67432 5 months ago 2
Yeah 'nick21sammy' is right. the engine cowling at the top of the engine means its a Rolls Royce Melin powering the aircraft. So that means it's a Spanish Hispano HA 1112 (real 109s were powered by an inverted Daimler-Benz engine - hense why the cowling is at the bottom of real 109s. Hispano 1112s were never used by the Germans. So this must be some unused footage from the Battle of Britain film in 1969. But its damn realistic though!
robertbobby12 5 months ago
too bad its not real footage, its a Spanish Buchon Me-109 (an Me-109 with an oversized cowling) they were used for the 60's movie "Battle of britain" it could be this was filmed during one of their practice flights, to practice the dogfight routine and an Me-109 had a camera put into its gun port to film it
nick21sammy 5 months ago
Real video?
lordmats2000 6 months ago
@lordmats2000
Even at the low rez I'm nearly positive that these are real planes. If it's fake it's lifted from a film that used state of the art high budget effects. ILM et al could pull this off... but... as a WWII piston engined air-war nerd, and film nerd in general I figure I would have seen this scene.
mrmarklangvee 6 months ago in playlist Aviacion 2 war Europa
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also, sound is not real of course. Lifted from the Battle of Britain classic flick.
mrmarklangvee 6 months ago in playlist Aviacion 2 war Europa
Awesome... =)
ExecutiveDmitri 7 months ago
SHITO SHITO
yoyoman557 8 months ago
Spits getting shot down, not a good vid to watch, one of a rare video.
pulsar46 9 months ago
"give me a squadron of Spitfires!"
Adolf Galland request to Hermann Goering, after being asked what might help German Lufwaffe assault on England
darkmossie633 9 months ago
@darkmossie633 Loved watching a documentry when he said "i should like a squardon of spitfires" just goes to show how respected out figthers and aircrew were during the war.
Joeaviation1712 8 months ago
SPITFIRE!!
ytchad13 10 months ago
Been in this, so cool! Dad bopped his head off the wall lol
XShinyDrumsX 1 year ago
Eat my .303 you Hun!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hanglands 1 year ago 4
@Hanglands Eat my Mg 17 55 second round firing machine gun against your 13 second .303 Browning machine gun with bullets half the size of mine!
jagdflieger100 1 week ago
@jagdflieger100 .303s were on the winning side, draw your own conclusions from that ;)
Hanglands 1 week ago
@Hanglands ha ha fair point,
The 109 was a still a better aircraft in 1940 though.
jagdflieger100 1 week ago
England Victory because of Squadron 303...the Polish pilots they kill much more.
TheKamikazeMAR 1 year ago
@TheKamikazeMAR The Poles were excellent!!! I've been told sometimes they'd even ram their aircraft into German planes when they ran out of ammo!!! But we still had more British pilots mate, and altogether they shot down the most! ;-) Squadron 303; that's really appropriate, considering the machine gun ammunition was .303 calibre! I salute you; Polish friend!
RattytheSecond 10 months ago
can someone tell me does anyone still makes the spitfire, can a person buy one,where, and if someone knows what is the price of one of these :) please
SERDAROTmkd 1 year ago
@SERDAROTmkd A place in Australia makes 3/4 scale spitfires which you can buy for about $300,000 AU.
cambamfo 1 year ago
@cambamfo 7/8ths scale also available.
Hanglands 1 year ago
Good jog showing how hard it is to roll in a plane. Good job with the vocals. Right on. Jim
tubin12341 1 year ago
...repete please...
BadBunnyRides 1 year ago
spitfire mk9 mh434 (ofmc) bucheon 109 (ofmc) spitfire mk9 ml417(tfc) camara ship was skyraider (tfc) now of kennet ave
weliketogloatitfc 1 year ago
I went in the Duxford simulator
I remember it now:)
jagdpanther1944 1 year ago
For those of you who thinks that German aces did only scores kills on the eastern front are welcome to inquire on the numbers on the western side...they'll be surprise to see that even though the kills are less numerous they still are largely higher than the Americans or the British...
cid871 1 year ago
THE FACT REAMAINS THAT AFTER THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN THE GERMAN PILOTS AND ME109s CONTINUED TO SCORE AND CREATE THE WORLD'S BEST ASES LIKE WILLIAM HARTMANN (350+ KILLS IN HIS ME109) AND THIS DESPITE BEING OVERPOWERED IN THE AIR AND FLYING AN OLD AIRCRAFT CREATED IN THE 30TIES.
THE RAF OR SPITFIRE NEVER PERFORMED AS DURING THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN AFTER IT WAS FINISHED,
SWAMPBUSTERS1 1 year ago
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Hartman scored his victories in Russia as did most German high scorers. It is also recognised that German tactics encouraged their aircraft to support and set up a few high scoring aces. British and later US tactics were to use our high scoring aces to teach and support other squadron members. Finally the Spit Mk5 was comparable to the 109F at all altitudes below 20000 feet and the Spit 9 was superior to the 109G at all altitudes and the Spit 14 superior to the 109K the same
eastsaxon100 1 year ago
@eastsaxon100 I agree that most high scoring aces did so on the Eastern front but them they had a lot to shoot at! Western allied pilots had more and more difficulty finding any German planes to shoot at at all. During the Normandy landing there was hardly any Luftwaffe left.If one is to believe Adolf Galand - according to this German ace - he preferred the Spit ober the Me 109. Still the Me 109 was an "old" 20ties design that did remarkably well..
SWAMPBUSTERS1 1 year ago
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@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Hartman scored his victories in Russia as did most German high scorers. It is also recognised that German tactics encouraged their aircraft to support and set up a few high scoring aces. British and later US tactics were to use our high scoring aces to teach and support other squadron members. Finally the Spit Mk5 was comparable to the 109F at all altitudes below 20000 feet and the Spit 9 was superior to the 109G at all altitudes and the Spit 14 superior to the 109K
eastsaxon100 1 year ago
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Well the Luftwaffe had been planning their war from day one and had the advantage of the paramilitary gliding clubs, eg the DLV, the base at Litbesk near Moscow which trained an awful lot of the formative flyers and teachers of Luftwaffe tactics and had supported Franco with JG88. The Spitfire and Hurricane were designed as weapons to defend our island. They performed admirably in that role as did the pilots who flew them against an enemy with more experience.
taff1976 1 year ago
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SWAMPBUSTERS1 1 year ago
SPITFIRES AND RAF SUPERIOR TO LUFTWAFFE AND ME109?
WRONG!
BOTH HAD EXCELLENT PILOTS AND PLANES BUT THE ENGLISH HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF BIENG OVER THEIR OWN TERRITORY AND THUS HAD NOT TO WORRY ABOUT FUEL SHORTAGE IN A DOGFIGHT OR WHEN SHOT DOWN.
THE BRITS ALSO HAD THE FIRST FUNCIONAL GROUND RADAR.
SWAMPBUSTERS1 1 year ago
@SWAMPBUSTERS1 Yes but that didnt make them win.... hurricanes and spitfires had better turning circles, so they could outmanouvere the german planes...
Except the spitfire or hurricane couldnt do straight dives, they had to barrel roll over and then dive.
miltonluvsno1 1 year ago
@miltonluvsno1 The early Mark Spits and Hurris had to roll and then dive, but later fuel injected variants didnt. The Luftwaffles could still outclimb though.
Hanglands 1 year ago
ah looks like the hispano version of the 109G in the colours of Joachim Müncheberg's aircraft... this machine visited nz for the 1992 warbirds over wanaka airshow
HaveACigar186 1 year ago
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GIANTreed1 1 year ago
@GIANTreed1 well no he straps propellers to it first =p
SMacca3103 1 year ago
The kidgerman was in a awfull hurry to get home. In the earlier clip he fired at the smoking spit, then turned back, then looking at buddy get shot not firing a shot?
ppedalen 1 year ago
sweet
cenourinha25 1 year ago
is this what the stimulator in duxford is, i was curious at the time..
DrDjRj 1 year ago
how is this a spitfire dogfight if those are german planes? more like dogfight agaisnt spitfires...
Giallo007 1 year ago
spitfire well kick yo ass!!! it will!!!! dont piss it off!!!!!
bifthespaz 1 year ago
it would have made sence to attack the wing leader,he was probably the more experienced pilot,so take him out plus the wing man couldnt fire for fear of hitting his own man,cannon shells were not that accurate in flight.
soledweller 1 year ago
spitfires when it trios, the germans usually went in quads, ... that was a big mistake on our part
BringEllisTheHoriZon 1 year ago
@BringEllisTheHoriZon
spitfires usually went in trios and the germans usually went in quads, that was a big mistake on our part. *
BringEllisTheHoriZon 1 year ago
yeah the germans win :)
TheSKORPION117 1 year ago
This looked like it was shot in the 60's. Most WW2 fighters had gun cameras in the wings. Not sure where you would put a camera in the nose of a Bf109 as it was all guns and engine. Could not tell if the Bf's were Griffon engined, that would make them probably from the 1968 movie "Battle Of Britain".
Anlushac11 1 year ago
fuck the germans win -.-
gekkeie1997 1 year ago
Profound, or should we be growing vegetables rather ?
jakazza 1 year ago
Do you really believe this?
5127terry 1 year ago
this is from one of those simulators. They put you in a little capsule and play the film and move the capsule while the film plays. I remember, i saw it when i was younger. when the second aircraft is shot down, it says it's "because the tail aircraft was too far behind, leaving a space for attack"
ThePKChris 1 year ago
is this real?
jeskar0407 1 year ago
@jeskar0407
Of course its real. The me109's had to be as light as possible so they mounted a colour recording camera on the front of it in 1942.
horseburger 1 year ago
Excellent C.G.s
gogogeedus 1 year ago
1 a fight wouldn't be that low by the RAF'
they would ignore it. in Battle of Britain'
just 2 me 109's flying low...
and why wasnt the wing man hit instead of the leader'
terryjohn 1 year ago
This is the game Il-2 ;-)
xxx777x99y 2 years ago
no a documentary 2000
terryjohn 1 year ago
Sadly, the ME109 was destroyed in 1999 in a crash that killed the pilot, young Mark Hanna, one of the owners of the Old Flying Machine Company of Duxford, England. I was lucky enough to meet Mark in 1995 - a genuinely nice guy - and he was kind enough to show me his Spitfire (tail number MH434) in detail, and do a bit of an airshow for me and my wife.
zetec7 2 years ago
I think this is from Eastbourne Air Show. Definitely are the pilot voices too clear for WWII radio technique and I dont know for guncam and voice recorder synchronized clips in 1940-45. And a red-white pylon in 35", like red bull air race.
sitarzan47 2 years ago
the me109 and the spitfire were a very good match.
just because the allies won doesnt mean the german equipment was worse. infact most german equipmant was better!
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
Wow how close dose that spitfire get fuck
9898983 2 years ago
I Totally agree here with allinpryce.The Hawker Hurricane shot down more enermy aircraft during WW2 than any other plane and anti-aircraft combined and could tke alot of damage too.
angelofmercy63 2 years ago
the first 5 planes spitfire shot down where Hurricanes..
grantg3 2 years ago
For your information, this sequence was shot on the south coast of England, between Eastbourne and Birling Gap, over an area called Beachy Head and the Seven Sisters. You can clearly see the Beachy Head and Belle Tout lighthouses. A similar sequence was shot in the same area for the appalling film Pearl Harbor.
troytempest64 2 years ago
therle be spitfiresss over dover not bluebirds lol
Phil1796 2 years ago
lol over dover
galloway6204 2 years ago
this is a video from a simulator for air shows etc
ive been in it it was good but could of been better from the spitfires
concorde1350mph 2 years ago
pretty lame move by the spit to attack the lead 109. presented himself as a good target to the 109 wing man. even lamer that the 109 didn't take the shot
AdrianDotis 2 years ago 3
That's why the pilot went infront. Im sure he could tell the 109 wingman was inexperienced, so he must have taken the opportunity.
Dragon22873 2 years ago
inexperienced? more like useless. the 109 wingman should have stayed on the ground for all the use he was. he even managed to blind himself twice by the sun.
AdrianDotis 2 years ago
Well one way or the other, in this simulation im sure the Spitfire pilot knew of the crappy quality of the wingman =P
Dragon22873 2 years ago
A risky move all the same, one that i wouldn't take on just an assumption. whatever though, good video, bad tactics.
AdrianDotis 2 years ago
from what iv'e seen ,and experienced on a simulator, the wing man was there just for target practice for the enemy ,he sure was not any use to his #1, also why would the spit target the lead plane the easier mark is the wingman
jabbyjabjo 2 years ago
Well, these things happened, you could never predict what the other pilot was going to do... However this was a very stupid mistake...
jastrebok 2 years ago
the german pilots should not have let that spitfire out of their sights . i love spitfires and think that they were the greatest plane of the war apart from the 262
ZachMitch1994 2 years ago
Hawker Hurricane mk 2 was the best fighter aircraft in Second World War lol.
allinpryce 2 years ago
No way O.o spitfires were much much better lol
flintrocks 2 years ago
Very good footage. Till now I don't know if it is a movie or a game but if the two krauts were in my squadron I supose to kick their arses till I forget it! from Cmdr. Cavelson
Cavelson 2 years ago
training run
vanoliza 2 years ago
danm that high left gained him some alltitude
crayz745 2 years ago
109 rulz
hawker445 2 years ago
2:13 pay backs a bitch!
wtsfhc 2 years ago 2
agreed
triplenatureboy 2 years ago
Interesting to read that this was based on real footage, but of course the Spitfires would have outturned the 109s, which would then have had to climb to try to get away. 109s could only win when they bounced Spitfires from above.
mikelavocah 2 years ago 3
Good accurate comment.
RAPIDR0ME0 2 years ago
In video games, yeah. Remember, real life flying is different. Depending on pilot skill I have no doubt the E's could turn with a Spit just fine.
Sarendil 2 years ago
Gustav was also a killer, people think that the spit was better, people think the BF 109 ( e or g ) was better, it all depended on the day and the fuel and the pilot, the DB601 thru 605 were very high hp engines that were very dependable , just as the rr merlin was, Goering once was asked what he needed to win the war over Britain was a squadron of spits, i think all they really needed was some good fuel and more of it, the db engines were excellent period
wlh1us 2 years ago
@wlh1us itd not abot the fuel, the 109s just had a short range (max capacity) , when they arrived at britain they had just minutes to fight before they had to turn back
sikwitit345 1 year ago
what I wouldn't ive to be killing airplanes up there. KABOOM!!:)
213321able 2 years ago
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why didnt they just use harrier jump jets that fire ostrich corpses !! why use these silly planes:( if it were i (capitan mongoose) i would use mk2 saab vigen with heat seeking kuntoes, kuntoes r dad chilren
KUNTER1572 2 years ago
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RAPIDR0ME0 2 years ago
check my vids, im not anti social, i just like leavin crazy comments sometimes hahaha kunter for president!!!:)))))
KUNTER1572 2 years ago
Tally Ho lads
marktimmer2212 2 years ago 20
the aircraft in this are spitfires m2 and 109s g-2.
antonyvt 2 years ago
g2, your wrong the g version was'nt till later in the war. In the Battle of Britain i thnk it was the e version
brierley2190 2 years ago
no it was in the battle of britain,later on in the battle, your wrong.
antonyvt 2 years ago
you see the main stay me109 was the emil (e-3 and e-4) but they did use the g-2 and g-6 only later on were they used against russia in massive numbers.
antonyvt 2 years ago
they used the g later on, i agree but in the battle of britain it was the e version i think
brierley2190 2 years ago 2
The G entered service well after the Battle, in 1942 if my memory serves me correctly. Even the F showed up too late to see combat in the Battle, but they were the main opponent when the RAF went on the offensive the following year.
These aren't even 109s, they're Buchons - Spanish-built and using Merlin engines, hence the bulges at the top of the cowling rather than the bottom.
rossmum 2 years ago
I remember from my schoolboy model-making days that the Messerschmidt fighters flown in 1940 were 109E's (with tail struts), and Spitfires used then would have three propellers, and have larger roundels, and that the camouflage colours would be brown and green, not grey and green...
Yours, nostalgically...
drwhatson 2 years ago 3
This is real footage, though staged, and used in the Duxford flight simulator, as others have stated. One thing though- a pair of Late mk Spits and 109s, same height, same speed, why don't the spits just turn on them?
stig781 2 years ago 12
Very true - those turns are practically leisurely, I'd expect a lot more effort if they were really under fire. :-)
audigex 2 years ago
Good simulation.
Gonzissimo 2 years ago
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yeah its a movie clip from the battle of britain .or could be pearl harbour @ the start
ffhjfhfjhf 2 years ago
sorry, no its not lol
its from the Duxford simulator as has been said!
JustUsFlyers 2 years ago
It's a simulation video, I watched the very same video in a motion simulator in Duxford
Jim8471 2 years ago
OK, idiots, this is phony. Look at the smoke patterns, listen to the "radio chatter," and ask yourself a simple question: WHY IS THERE SOUND? Period gun cameras didn't do that sort of thing. End of. So, Tiggs62, crashtestdummie183, flyingfilipe, and whoever isn't on the first page of comments, fuck right off. It's a vidyagame, you twats. Also, arsenalbilly, fuck you for putting a decent football club's name on this bullshit and not correcting the morons. FUCK OFF.
phlorky 2 years ago
You need to look through the previous comments. This is real footage, not animated or from any game. It is, however, staged footage of a pair of Me109s engaging a 2 on 2 with a pair of Spitfires, used in the Duxford simulator
Tiggs62 2 years ago
What game is this from?
divermayhem 2 years ago
It's real footage numbnuts.
DantehMan 2 years ago
think its the secret map on bf1943, cant be sure though
ultimatumjs 2 years ago
Sad and beautiful, many subtleties in there. I am 58yrs and my friends and we grew up with the few survivors of those days. The Lancaster thousand bomber raids. Never again please.
robmcg567 2 years ago
It's real, recorded from an other BF109. which was filming for observation. I really love the part when the spitfire shoots the bf109 for his wingman. really. fuck germany =)
FlyingFilipe 2 years ago
FlyingFilipe. It No is Real !!!! Is from Film !!!!
jcfebles2081 2 years ago
spitifire do karai
pikka
smqt9425 2 years ago
"Steigen Sie aus!"
"Ich kann nicht!"
Hört sich irgndwie lustig an, auch wenn's es nicht is^^
Paintballemo 2 years ago
Very cool even if it isn't WW2.
CripesAMighty 2 years ago 3
i think it is ww2
Paintballemo 2 years ago
Those are Spanish 109's with Merlin engines, called Buchons. It is not WW2 video.
tidls 2 years ago 3
this is why i think they should do a re-make of The Battle of Britain film. with the CGI nowadays, it would be epic.
andrew18091977 2 years ago 4
Totaly agree! It would ruin me because I'd see it 3 times a day but it MUST hapen!
house32music 2 years ago
I dunno, it was a brilliant movie despite the obvious unavoidable inaccuracies due to most German (and even Allied) aircraft being very stupidly destroyed once they were taken out of service. Remakes tend to ruin great things, in my experience.
rossmum 2 years ago
is this real footage?????
murphymoose001 2 years ago 2
i think so....
GhostOfRockyHorror 2 years ago
yes, by the way in this vid we see no messerschmitt bf 109...they are ha 1112 (look at the nose and round wingclips)
now to the speeds:
fastest plane ww2 - me 163: 1003 km/h
fastest prob ww2 - do 335: 765 km/h
(shinden flew never in ww2...and was "only" 752 km/h fast)
bf 109 K4 (with special probs): 728 km/h
spitfire mk XIV: 717 km/h
of course both were faster in their best highes than the other, but - fighter 109 was a bit faster than the fighter spit in the high-end speed
deseryve 2 years ago
It's not real footage. It was made for a short movie (showscan) IMAX 3D it's called you sat open close and it gave you the feel you were then ..how do you think they recorded there voices?? ..another thing is dogfights never start that low and there not Ha-1112 they have no gun pods ..and 109's have wing vents 1112's do not this flim has 109's with them..notice the engine ports on the RIGHT side ? BTW the TEMPEST MK V was faster then the K4 and the Do 335
freakyflow 2 years ago
of course its not real, they arent firing, the qualy of the pictures arent from that time etc...
not every ha-1112 had gun pods...look at some pics about different ones, there were many without
and where did they get the 109s? in the move "battle of britian" they used also ha-1112 with removed rounds on their wings so that they look like an emil...because they couldnt get real 109s
deseryve 2 years ago
i dont think so because the plane were watching is not shooting and it looks like were watching in a 109 when the spit comes infront of him a normal pilot would have engaged the spit but he didnt nothing that doesnt make any sence
honorguy 2 years ago
ha ha,take that nazi bastard
354sd 2 years ago
but the ME 262 was faster than all the other allied aircraft
5seba56 2 years ago
Me-163 commet was the fastest, had rocket engine.
UltragigamegaSEGA 2 years ago
Yeah it was the first Jet!!! Me 262 I think!!!
SecretSpetsnaz 2 years ago
look it up on wikipedia the spitfire submarine is way faster. this is the second fastest plane in world war II. the fastest plane is a mustang p-40 which runs on a spitfire merlin engine which was developed at the end of the war in europe. rember this plain won the battle of britain..........doh doh
kinkaid25 2 years ago
Actually the Hurricane won the Battle of Britain because there were much more Hurricanes with's killed more german planes than the Spitfire did. The fastest plane in WW2 was the Me 162 Komet and the fastest prop plane was the Shinden. I think you compare different versions off the Spitfire and the Me 109. The Me 109E was faster that the mark 1 and those were the ones that fought in the Battle of Britain. Also don't forget that anyone can change wikipedia with doesn't make it an reliable source.
CallofDaniel 2 years ago
The mustang is a P-51. The P-40 is the Warhawk or Tommahawk....
divermayhem 2 years ago
the fastest non jet nor rocket engine plane of ww2 was P-51 mustang.
In general all german fighters had more powerfull planes, engines and firepower. spitfires were more agile in horizontal turns becouse of the wings, but when it comes to vertical or roll they could not follow german messers. Thats why Germans used boom and zoom tactics whenever they could, so they could keep the energy and spped.
UltragigamegaSEGA 2 years ago
I made a commet above about the Tempest being the fastest ..howeer the Tempest and the P-51 shared alot of things design and engines and tactics ..with only the tempest having alittie more on diving
freakyflow 2 years ago
and where did you get the information that the tempest mk V is the fastest prop of all?
i found only a max. speed from 696 km/h... thats slower than the do 335, the K4 and the spitfires max. speed (and there were still more)
by the way, the K4 was compared only with the spitfire
deseryve 2 years ago
No, the TA 152 was the fastest prop warbird of WWII. Late model Yak 9s could get up there too.
lemonite1 2 years ago
read texts about compare flights with do 335 and ta 152
if youre talking about the fastest single prop, youre right with the ta 152, but i only talked about the fastest prop
the do 335 was a bit faster, but the ta 152 was much cheaper and easier to produce, so the RLM prefered the ta 152
right, special yak 3 models reached a top speed of 720km/h (yak 3A with WK-107A-engine) and the yak 3RD was 780km/h fast, but that isnt a prop, it flew with a rocked engine RD-1ChS
deseryve 2 years ago
I forgot about the Dornier "Pfiel".
lemonite1 2 years ago
this is a flight sim lol well i say it. It was the old flight sim at duxford showed this. It was a post war flight showing a dogfight between a spitfire and an me109.
TQ614 2 years ago 3
this video is not 60 years old no way, plus those planes being shot at where not spitfires they looked like hurricanes slower planes than the spitfires. no german planes could keep up with the spitfires, that's why they won the battle of britain. look it up
kinkaid25 2 years ago
There are spitfires and the ME 109 was faster than the Spitfire.
CallofDaniel 2 years ago
me 109 could climb faster than the spitfire, but on speed the spitfire was 25mph faster overall and look again, they look like huricanes to be fare.
kinkaid25 2 years ago
Which Mk of Spit are you comparing the 109 to? The Mk9 & Mk XIV Spits will annihilate ANY Me 109 in terms of outright performance, speed, climb & dive performance. The Spit left the 109 behind in terms of development, by 43, the 109 was very much on a back foot.
LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH 2 years ago
sorry its not an me 109 its a BF 109
kinkaid25 2 years ago
well what is the difference? They are the same plane.
CallofDaniel 2 years ago
At the time both the Bf-109 and Bf-110 were designed, Willy Messerschmitt was working at the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (forgive me if I misspelled that), so they carried its initials rather than his own.
rossmum 2 years ago
Thats a Messerschmidt ME109 =)
Steppedk 2 years ago
Grow up u nerds. Who the F**k cares. Did u like it or not, end of.....
lb040466 2 years ago
It's not. Those are Spanish Hispano Buchons, not Messerschmitts; the Bf109 had an inverted Daimler V-12. The Buchon's engine isn't inverted, the exhaust is high on the nose like a Spit rather than down low.
It's either CGI or live footage shot postwar, there's no way in hell that's authentic WWII footage. Either way, it's a pretty awesome video.
rossmum 2 years ago
Nice choice of words, keep them coming! It's a sim or either movie footage designed on a com. NO WAY is this live dude
ClarkesonTheMarksman 2 years ago
Fool? rephrase that please, your a little obnoxious arnt'tu! Uhm could it possibly be an online flight sim and he's probably using a quad core processer n dual running 2 9800 nvidea graphics cards and ventrillo? possibly? fool?
ClarkesonTheMarksman 2 years ago
Flight sim
ClarkesonTheMarksman 2 years ago
"Real dogfight" footage???
Nice vid anyway!
erectusfalo 2 years ago
not real....not unless the war was still being fought post 1951. that is Beachy Head & the 7 Sisters...NOT Dover. the light house was only painted red & white in 1951, before that it was natural stone with black bands around it.
sinnerboy01 2 years ago
Is this real??? Bye bye
jiska111111111111111 2 years ago
świetne.. - superb...!!
VictorSeedorsky 2 years ago
those are Spanish built 109s...not ME 109s, you can tell from the exhaust manifold sits higher on the nose, rather the german 109s engine were mounted upside down thats why u always see the exhaust located on the bottom of the nose just forward of the wing
spartanphalaynx 2 years ago 5
Spit and the 109 !
Think do not get more cool than this.
God bless all of them
buttsyrc8 3 years ago
OR ANY REAL. THAN IL-2 CRAP
TJ
terryjohn 2 years ago
impressive attack by the second spit...awsome clip
schumy90 3 years ago
how come he didnt hit his wingman.germans.
tj
terryjohn 3 years ago
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urbannibja123 3 years ago
There's one at Duxford Imperial War Meuseum; that's in the UK for any of our yank friends out there. It's worth the ride!
keithcoaches 2 years ago
Beachy Head!
Cavelson 3 years ago
Real or computer? I mean... Real airshow? If it is a game... Very impressive!
Cavelson 3 years ago
its for a documentry in 2000 .
tj
terryjohn 3 years ago
Very, very, very good work! A nice vid.
Cavelson 3 years ago
Sehr gut gemacht !! Geiles Video! ME BF109!!!!
powerheli777 3 years ago
Yes, from a move. I can believe it. No vintage footage would be of such good qualitty.
Neustria 3 years ago
Extraordinarily good special FX!
catinger 3 years ago
best way to say what the film is : you go to a fair and pay 2 bucks sit in a small room with this playing the screen was very large This played the a rollercoaster 2 min movie then a race car 2min movie then a underwater sea movie it gave you a feel like you were there
timberwolf7102james 3 years ago
Clearly this is CGI - of course its not real footage or actual planes.
The original voice over on this video for History channel is just the narrator explaining the pro's & con's of t