This is most retarded comparison. This guy owns an UAD and still dont know how to make decent A/B ! SET THEM FKIN SAME AND THEN SWITCH THEM IN 2-3 SECS, DONT JUST TWEAK THEM! And it is the same guy over and over doing these wrong videos. Man, just sell it all...
There is little to NO audible difference between the two>But I tell you this>Run that drumloop through an actual Hardware Unit, AND YOU'LL HEAR A BIG CHANGE IN THE TONE RIGHT AWAY>>>PLUGINS ARE A BIG HYPE!! They add little to no sonic change in the sound>place 7 DAW compressors on the same source>set at the same settings, and you'll hear they all mainly sound the same>with only a 12% variation of change from each other. and they do not add the warmth as that the Hardware units add at all. HYPE
It's hard to tell much from this, but the Waves is clearly much faster in the release both in metering and in sonics. The word on the street is the LA-2A has a fairly slow release, not that emulating is that important.
Thumbs up if you read the first page of the argument between quathar and regaltipper and think they both behaved like children lol
At any rate, I feel like demo'ing compressors on YouTube is about as pointless as listening for the dynamic range of a song on pop radio:S Thanks for these videos anyway, SSL9000Down. They're good for drooling over even if the sonic comparisons are somewhat difficult to gauge:)
@quathar 's .... ",but only if they sound the same"... at different settings? Your comment makes no sense. The only way you can test to see if they are the same is to A/B them. Which means they both have the same input and output levels. If not, of course you're going to get two different sounds and therefore not be able to compare them.. I'd think that would be obvious... obvious to someone that knows even the slightest about audio engineering.
@regaltipper Comparing the settings only compare what they sound like at THAT particular setting. That can be different depending on the algorithm used, and the only thing that tells you is if the units work exactly the same. It is a good starting point, but what I would be really interested in, in this case, is testing if they SOUND similar, i.e. if the sound quality matches of Waves matches UAD i.e. if you are able to get the same, good, sound/compression out of both.
@quathar The flaw in what your saying is that you may like one setting on one, but like a different setting on the other. So how would you know which one to get? You have to a/b in order for it to be a comparison and for you to be able to put a "vs" in the video title.
@regaltipper That doesn't change anything. If you like the plugs equally but on different settings, then it's a toss up and you could get either. The point here is functionality, not specific settings. You could for instance test compressing different instruments and vocals and see which one performs to your liking. It's about comparing circumstances and sound under those circumstances, not specifically exact settings. Clear as mud?
@regaltipper Is that it? You have some desperate youtube need to win even tho you've clearly run out of arguments? Go look at some A/B tests between plugs and outboard units on gearslutz and educate yourself instead of being a wiseass.
@quathar Ya I am telling you that this is not how you a/b test. That is all I am saying. I have not run out of arguments, you just don't understand so I've decided to give up on talking to you. Thanks, and good luck.
@regaltipper Well, you haven't refuted anything of what I said with any sensible arguments, so there is nothing TO understand. Just being obstinate isn't an argument.
@quathar HAHAHA Are you fucking kidding me. If you knew two shits about what I was saying, you'd know I have already made my point. You're too excited about winning an argument, you've lost your common sense. I'm sorry but it's hard to argue with an ignoramus. Take care quather. I won't be responding.
@quathar My point was not flawed. You just can't fuckin understand it! Please, before you reply, try to understand what I am saying. Go back and look at what I've already said. Then try to process that. Then process that I have been an engineer for 20 some years and I know what I am talking about. Then think to yourself, is it worth it to argue with someone that knows they are right? Then realize it's not. And don't comment.
@regaltipper It was flawed. If you really have been an engineer for 20 years you should know better: Again, if the point of the A/B test is to see how well the effects match up in ALL ASPECTS, then you are right. But you usually test the functionality and SOUND. If you wanna test a certain amount of audible and measurable compression in this case (gain reduction etc), you HAVE TO dial in the settings so the compression matches up. This really isn't that complicated.
@quathar Yes, I agree with what you are saying. I am disagreeing with how this video is comparing. They should have tested them at the same settings increasing input and gain reduction at the same times to hear how they differ. However they changes levels in no particular order so it makes it very difficult to compare the two plugins.
damn straight!!!! nice post!! i'm just getting the hang of the CLA-2A oer the past year or so...it's rather simple, but will make or break your mix...
all the la2a emus suck but the waves is the best sounding
Testiculatorz 2 weeks ago
can i please get the drum loop?
sherroychapman 2 weeks ago
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can u tell me why studios use hardward compressors, when they do the final mix with compressor plugins
thatniggbeme7 1 month ago
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This is most retarded comparison. This guy owns an UAD and still dont know how to make decent A/B ! SET THEM FKIN SAME AND THEN SWITCH THEM IN 2-3 SECS, DONT JUST TWEAK THEM! And it is the same guy over and over doing these wrong videos. Man, just sell it all...
psionicxxx 2 months ago
There is little to NO audible difference between the two>But I tell you this>Run that drumloop through an actual Hardware Unit, AND YOU'LL HEAR A BIG CHANGE IN THE TONE RIGHT AWAY>>>PLUGINS ARE A BIG HYPE!! They add little to no sonic change in the sound>place 7 DAW compressors on the same source>set at the same settings, and you'll hear they all mainly sound the same>with only a 12% variation of change from each other. and they do not add the warmth as that the Hardware units add at all. HYPE
LastDayStudios 3 months ago
gracias!
CHF197 5 months ago
Not that drum loop again!!
cockatoolover999 7 months ago 31
@cockatoolover999 haha!
jaimiecurrie 3 days ago
Don't forget that the Waves Compressors are actually modelled on Chris Lord Alge's 2A's which may not be the teletronix ones??
Jaimesnoise 7 months ago
im confused dam it ! ! ! !
TheEternalSadness 8 months ago
It's hard to tell much from this, but the Waves is clearly much faster in the release both in metering and in sonics. The word on the street is the LA-2A has a fairly slow release, not that emulating is that important.
recordingreview 9 months ago
...just sell, I meant...
psionicxxx 1 year ago
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psionicxxx 1 year ago
waves plugins look better in my opinion and that counts too.
ColdGripHandle 1 year ago
@ColdGripHandle You better be trolling.
webbguitar 2 months ago
@webbguitar He's probably not :D
SimonMilIs 2 months ago
@webbguitar That's a definite troll
finsoto 2 months ago
Fine!
dgb123dgb 1 year ago
WTH is this =O
StalinStudio 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you read the first page of the argument between quathar and regaltipper and think they both behaved like children lol
At any rate, I feel like demo'ing compressors on YouTube is about as pointless as listening for the dynamic range of a song on pop radio:S Thanks for these videos anyway, SSL9000Down. They're good for drooling over even if the sonic comparisons are somewhat difficult to gauge:)
yobhsiFehT 1 year ago
AGAIN< IF YOU"RE GONA A/B, MAKE SURE YOUR SETTINGS ARE THE SAME!!!!!! Isn't that common sense??????????
regaltipper 1 year ago 3
@regaltipper No. You are not testing if the units sound the same at the same settings, but only if they sound the same.
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar 's .... ",but only if they sound the same"... at different settings? Your comment makes no sense. The only way you can test to see if they are the same is to A/B them. Which means they both have the same input and output levels. If not, of course you're going to get two different sounds and therefore not be able to compare them.. I'd think that would be obvious... obvious to someone that knows even the slightest about audio engineering.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper Comparing the settings only compare what they sound like at THAT particular setting. That can be different depending on the algorithm used, and the only thing that tells you is if the units work exactly the same. It is a good starting point, but what I would be really interested in, in this case, is testing if they SOUND similar, i.e. if the sound quality matches of Waves matches UAD i.e. if you are able to get the same, good, sound/compression out of both.
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar The flaw in what your saying is that you may like one setting on one, but like a different setting on the other. So how would you know which one to get? You have to a/b in order for it to be a comparison and for you to be able to put a "vs" in the video title.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper That doesn't change anything. If you like the plugs equally but on different settings, then it's a toss up and you could get either. The point here is functionality, not specific settings. You could for instance test compressing different instruments and vocals and see which one performs to your liking. It's about comparing circumstances and sound under those circumstances, not specifically exact settings. Clear as mud?
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar Yes it's clear. It's clear you don't understand how to a/b.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper Is that it? You have some desperate youtube need to win even tho you've clearly run out of arguments? Go look at some A/B tests between plugs and outboard units on gearslutz and educate yourself instead of being a wiseass.
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar Ya I am telling you that this is not how you a/b test. That is all I am saying. I have not run out of arguments, you just don't understand so I've decided to give up on talking to you. Thanks, and good luck.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper Well, you haven't refuted anything of what I said with any sensible arguments, so there is nothing TO understand. Just being obstinate isn't an argument.
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar HAHAHA Are you fucking kidding me. If you knew two shits about what I was saying, you'd know I have already made my point. You're too excited about winning an argument, you've lost your common sense. I'm sorry but it's hard to argue with an ignoramus. Take care quather. I won't be responding.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper Your point was flawed, and I disproved it. Simple as that, cheers, Einstein.
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar My point was not flawed. You just can't fuckin understand it! Please, before you reply, try to understand what I am saying. Go back and look at what I've already said. Then try to process that. Then process that I have been an engineer for 20 some years and I know what I am talking about. Then think to yourself, is it worth it to argue with someone that knows they are right? Then realize it's not. And don't comment.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper It was flawed. If you really have been an engineer for 20 years you should know better: Again, if the point of the A/B test is to see how well the effects match up in ALL ASPECTS, then you are right. But you usually test the functionality and SOUND. If you wanna test a certain amount of audible and measurable compression in this case (gain reduction etc), you HAVE TO dial in the settings so the compression matches up. This really isn't that complicated.
quathar 1 year ago
@quathar Yes, I agree with what you are saying. I am disagreeing with how this video is comparing. They should have tested them at the same settings increasing input and gain reduction at the same times to hear how they differ. However they changes levels in no particular order so it makes it very difficult to compare the two plugins.
regaltipper 1 year ago
@regaltipper Fine. Agreed. Then.
quathar 1 year ago
cla2a rocks ua2a period.
butterfly8211015 1 year ago
nice
bawpbawp 1 year ago
You absolutely have to also include dynamic Vocals in any compression test--nothing shows the differences like Vocals.
Rizzy55 2 years ago 8
@Rizzy55
damn straight!!!! nice post!! i'm just getting the hang of the CLA-2A oer the past year or so...it's rather simple, but will make or break your mix...
T74G 1 year ago
Can't really tell what's going on here... Is it soloing the track that is selected?
notonekind 2 years ago
plus, to really compare you have to apply the same settings and listen it in WAV !
: )
module61 2 years ago