@muslimgiga You are a filthy pig Muslim. Go and declare jihad on your mummy's dirty crab infested pussy. Wow that's really disgusting but so is islam. I can tell you a pakishitstain, your people are sellout they helped kill Osama bin lostatsea cheap like Islam,muhPIGman,Muslims. Osama is at the bottom of the ocean wrapped in a pig with a anchor around his neck. And he needs company he's waiting for you. "death to Islam"
Yes Moustafa, Pigs, Apes and Donkeys are all Muslim. Yes, they also wash before farting. Yes LIAR Moustafa, our Holy Bible and Torah is corrupt cos the Dead Sea Scrolls found that predated back to the time of Jesus, PROVED that the Holy Bible and the Torah are both AUTHENTIC and NOT corrupt as Falsely claimed by Muslims cos Muhammad use this PRETEXT to coverup his Plagarism and twisting of the Holy Christian Scriptures. Oh Muhammad, allah seems to conveniently grant your all Ur sexual desires.
I had lived in a Muslim country before and NON-MUSLIMS are treated as second class citizens and Blatantly DISCRIMIATED by the MUSLIM GOVERNMENT. I know how I was treated! Mustaffa is LYING in here and he has the Odesity to LIE without flinching his eyes. How ridiculous! Robert Spencer is speaking the TRUTH and setting the record straight in here for the world to see.
Mustaffa is a Bladi LIAR. I just heard him, there is NO COMPULSION in ISLAM but when LINA a Malaysian Muslim decides to become a Christian, Muslims there want to KILL her and she was forced into hiding. The Malaysian SHARIA court DENIED her petition to change her religion from ISLAM to CHRISTIANITY. This is NOT FICTION but a true sad STORY. Do a youtube search on her suffering & plight. What Muslims claim and what they actually practice are two different things. Hadith says to KILL all Apostates
There is no allah but Allah and his fake Prophet Muhammad! Moslems are willing to suicide Bomb or Kill you just to prove that Islam is peaceful... : )
islam is a peace loving religion to the top comment there is no reason to call him a fat Muslim and you cannot tell if islam will e defeated because if it doesnt and it prospers you will burn in the hell fire so its best to just not say bad things about others religion im Muslim and im not bad mouthing christianity. the people who spread hate about other religions are going against there own religions because all religions teach peacefulness
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bringing a stupid politician's one time purely individual act of character in the picture is just ridiculous. (this politician lives in the 21st century whr everything is recorded, of course he is going to act just for publicity or votes, but not becaus of mohammad's teachings) how does that negate that mohammad still waged war against the non beleivers and subjugated them
zoroastrians of iran hav been migrating out to india since the 7th century and during the qajar dynasty zorostrians in india had to send money to zorastrians in iran becaus the tax was sooo heavy causing for the 2nd largest exodus of zoroastrians to india.its amazing the lies muslims like mustafa's forefathers tell themselves whose very ancestors were subjugated.egypt had a great civilization before islam. its such a shame.
great job on mr. spencer! apparently mr. mustafa doesnt know that a tax based on ur religion as a minority is a state of subjugation. and please the tax WAS horrendous to a point that non muslims had to migrate or convert. if not the case why isnt ther a large non-muslim population in a muslim country to this date?
@1JesseW - "Christianity taught the same thing to Christians."
Where? I believe Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
There literally is not one single Bible verse where Jesus advocates waging war, violence, or surreptitiousness in any form to gain converts. Jesus never once advocated the use of any form of compulsion to convert.
@TheHorta They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
@TheHorta It doesn't have to be written by Jesus to be part of the Bible. Historically, you don't have to look further than the Inquisition and the Crusades to know that Christianity believes in the suppression of non-believers. Now, don't tell me that the people who were in the Crusades and those who masterminded the Inquisition weren't real Christians.
@1JesseW - " It doesn't have to be written by Jesus to be part of the Bible..."
I can see where this is going, but what the hell... I'll play for a while ;-)
While it doesn't have to be from Jesus to be in the Bible, it DOES have to be from Jesus to be "Christianity" -- i.e. his namesake. Your quote is historical, and not "Christian."
The "Bible" was canonized ostensibly by what became the Roman Catholic Church, a largely pagan-inspired organization that most have mistaken as "Christianity."
@TheHorta You might disagree about Roman Catholicism being part of Christianity, but it is generally accepted that Catholicism is part of Christianity. After all, it was the first major Christian faith.
@1JesseW - "but it is generally accepted that Catholicism is part of Christianity. After all, it was the first major Christian faith."
I'm not really disagreeing with you, in fact I believe you have just proven my point. "Christianity," as the major religion primarily formed by the Roman Catholic Church, has been one of the greatest scourges in human history, much as Islam today is.
However, it comes back to Christ and his teachings and words, regardless of religion.
@TheHorta You have a point about Jesus being righteous in his teachings on the basis of what he said regarding how people should act morally, but I have yet seen an undistorted interpretation of that.
It's so ridiculous and pointless to debate with muslim debaters,b/c they will keep lying and denying by shifting the words,transparent open lies,,,no one can mess up between the words kill and defend,muslims have been fooling themselves over 14 centuries by lying & denying & ignoring,that's why they remain backward,
@lucyana222 It is pointless but still very easy to beat them. All you need to destroy their claims of a religion of peace, is in the Koran ready and waiting!
@SissingPyd All the world including the world's muslims know that islam isn't a religion of peace,so even muslim scholars & apoligists & sheiks have claimed that islam is a religion of force & terror to horrify & defeat the enemies,in their satanic faith & barbaric uncivlised mentalities,There is no need to beat them,b/c poor muslims have been already beaten by islam over 14 centuries & being beaten by each others in current days,islam is a religion of kill or killed, 2 choices submitted or deat
Doctors and health workers have been banned from eating at their desks, lest it upset Muslim during Ramadan.Obviously Muslims are delighted.A Muslim Senior Consultant said 'This is about educating people and making them more aware and more confident when dealing with issues involving the Muslim community'.
If it's true that we all need to learn and understand more about each others cultures, then why don't Muslims embrace Christmas,Easter or Valentines day. Why have the 3 pigs been slaughtered?
Since Muslims are to lazy to work, the jyzre is necessary. It is extortion from Christians. Protectin, racketeering, and extotrion from the kiffar so Muslims can live off them and be the paracites they are.
That is the WHOLE POINT OF RELIGION, to CREATE WAR
Simply put, there could have been no royalty without a god or gods to ordain them, and its the Royal themselves who created "God", creating gods and religions was a means of establishing and creating "authority" for royals in order for them to rule in the first place. They were "ordained" by the very gods that they created.
@skepticaldemocrat I've seen this debate first time. The point of Moustafa Zayed is very clear, produce your evidence from Muhammad (saw), not from some interpreter of Qur'an.
@skepticaldemocrat Lol! I hope you are not a christian. Well, spencer is quoting a verse from qur'an than he uses an interpreter for try to show what the verse means. Zayed is saying basically, don't give me somebodies understanding of Qur'an, give it from the prophet (saw) himself. Is that to hard to understand for you my friend?
Only you can do is insult. Well, i am peaceful person. I only say peace be upon you!
@skepticaldemocrat I don't see any crimes at all. Show me where is the crime on this verse? I don't know any civil laws which forbids a person from "stand against oppression" or better saying "self-defense".
My challenge is stands: Show me one book which claims to be Word of God, teaches mercy, just, kind and morality to humankind more than Qur'an.
I don't understand why Mustafa is doing all this. He tries to debate with people who are destroying the planet, who enslaved africa, who slaughtered amerindians, who launched atomic bombs on civilians, who can't even handle their own government which is directly responsible of 9-11. Think about it, China is powerful today, because geographically it's far from the west which destroys everything it touches. we have no lessons to take from them.
And if you really believe that US government is directly responsible for 9/11 attacks, there is lots of logical stuuf you cant understand. Conspiracy theorists are famous for their lack of knowledge and lack of debating skills, etc.
@skepticaldemocrat I don't care about China. All I say is that historically the west has killed much more than islam, so we don't have lessons to take from u. For 9-11 if u can explain the wtc 7 collapsing... anyway, you are as much a consipracy theorist as I am, the only diffrence is that you are accusing people who have absolutely no power of conspiracy, while I'm accusing veru powerful people... which shows your logical mind
@ameenkewell No power of conspiracy... That shows your illogical no-mind. Grow up, kid. This is real world. USA`s government is not that powerful to the point of hiding its own secrets, real conspiracies included, and you muslims are not that incompetent.
How do you know that islam killed less than west? Do you have statistics? Or did you just made up that claim?
@talwad Spencer is very sharp. I'm Proud of him he blew up this filthy fat Muslim. Got him every-time. Islam will be defeated as it has now for 1200 years we've been handing there ass to them so so many times and always quick.
They are stupid,filthy,liars,diseased,lazy,greasy,miscreants,infidels,non believers,thieves, and I'm being nice. "Muhammad the child molester ass fucker "
@kennyufc09 You obviously didn't listen to ANYTHING Mustafa said. Spencer's outright LIES and deliberate misquoting immediately disqualifies him as a credible person. This guy is a clown. Mustafa spent HALF the debate trying to correct his idiotic lies and misinformation.
Grow a brain before you analyze anything. Your obviously a brainwashed islamaphobe.
@TheComputerEngineer You are all deceived by your prophet and your clerics. Thinking people will not bite your excuses. Do not blame Israel of your miseries. It's your punishment for messing with them. Don't you have pity on your youths who suffer with you because of your stubbornness? If your Allah is really with you, he must have save you from the "evil Jews". Your god is a racist god, for no sane reason at all. You cannot defeat Israel. So better stay where you are. Leave them alone.
Islam does not teach violence. Only major violence I know of is through the corruption of Zionism. The invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan with the constant bombardment of Muslim land. All the false flag operations for Israeli expansion and war profiteering with the United States citizens tax payer dollars. 9/11 is Middle Easts 24/7. The Zionist control the U.S government and the media. Many of you have severely been deceived with misinformation from non credible Muslim sources, bigots and media.
but in reality what's politic? and what's religion?... rules. I don't understand why it must be separated. The thing is simple. When a muslim is outside his muslim country, he respects the laws of where he is. And in a muslim country, if a majority a people decide to be ruled by muslim laws, it s their business...
@ameenkewell See I'm not going to mention Suras and all of that, but you're not telling the truth. Muslims believe the entire world is their holy land. They don't recognise "other people's" land. So you said yourself, religion and politics are not different. But when you go about saying this book was written by God, then did God create politics? Or did a man right a book stating it was the word of God to further his political agenda?
@soodsie That's untrue, there's a verse which clearly states that if people wants to have peace with u accept it, and that's what the prophet did in al hudaybiyya with polytheists...
What u re telling is untrue, I can marry a jew even if she dosen't convert, otherwise it's marrying a... muslim. And political problems are not everytime solvable by peaceful means, the best example is the palestinian one... and it s not only muslim, all mankind is made like that, if u tell me where u r from, i ll give u examples from your own country...
From what I know, If god wanted to, it would be easy for him to make everybody believe in him, a little miracle right now and the whole world would believe, but he made things so it will require an incredible intellectual effort for everybody just to put feelings aside and to analyze the quran very critically and to understand that it comes from god
@ameenkewell I find a few things which bother me about that. Miracles are for those who don't want to think in the first place. Children in Islamic societies are hardly given anything else to stir their intellect and they are taught to memorise the Q'uran before they can speak and they have to accept whatever interpretations are given to them. They don't get to intellectually or critically analyse anything. And worst of all if they question they are admonished and asked to seek God's forgiveness
@soodsie I personally admit that in the muslim world today we have a caricature of islam, the first verse in the quran says : READ... and there is a big intellectual problem in these countries, and it s the source of all our problems, and it has nothing to do with islam... I know the history of islam and in the beginning we had a lot of great scientists and philosophers etc.... the actual situation is due to a lot of reasons....
@ameenkewell Again, that is proof that no book was written by God, because through times it can be so misinterpreted to fit whatever need. Even if you take a group of people in a room and tell one to pass on a message to the very last in the room, the last person gets an entirely different message from what the first person was told. So why not a book written centuries ago?
@soodsie we know it's from god by the miracles that it contains, how can a man in a seventh century know the proportion of water and land in the planet? a lot of scientific and mathematical and litterar miracles taht proves that this book can't be from a man... but I admit that half of them u need to know arabic to undrestand them...
@ameenkewell Truths are truths, never mind when they are discovered, they never change. The Hindu book, the Bhagvad Gita, it makes reference to nuclear science, and that was way before Judaism, Christianity or Islam, are you saying that I should believe that the Gita is the word of God, even when the Gita itself does not make such a proclamation? But have you even read and analysed other books on religious philosophy before coming to the conclusion that yours is the ULTIMATE TRUTH?
@soodsie I can say that I did my research and studied many religions. My conclusion is islam. and the fact that people attack it today somehow proves to me that I'm right... For the hindus, it's more a philosophy... and quickly u can see that it's not what you re looking for...
@ameenkewell What's wrong with philosophy? Philosophy is the study of wisdom, what's wrong with wisdom? I am not a Hindu but what I find admirable is that they don't force anyone to believe in what they believe and to help in understanding of the world, they don't restrict their knowledge of the world to just one book in one time of the existence of the world, it is a deeply developed philosophy that has been enhanced through the knowledge gained by humanity through thousands of years.
@soodsie All what u r saying can be applied to islam... The main problem, is just that I must find what happens after death, I can't go forward without answering this question, and I must be sure about it... This far, I don't have a special problem with hinduism, and I know that they have a lot of common teachings with islam... but it doesn't answer my questions...
@ameenkewell I think it's much better than having your beliefs handed to you in a Book that is the ultimate words of God that cannot change or be questioned, yet which does not solve problems in all times, which in this time is used to justify so much hate, and also be told that I cannot think against that book, when God actually gave man his brain to think, before he gave man the book.
@ameenkewell It also brings me back to my original post, which you admit now, that if Muslims wanted others to respect and accept their belief, they are the first ones who have to prove through their own example that Islam is indeed a religion of peace and love. Or else who is to judge what is "real" Islam and what is just a caricature? Especially when you say this perfect book of Allah is in their hands written in their language and they can't even interpret it correctly.
@soodsie The problem is not only a muslim's problem. In the west, people are too much ignorant and the medias manipulate them as they want... the inquiry about nine eleven is problematic in many ways, and the western people couldn't even do something to find the truth about what happened that day... anayway, to understand you must know what is freemasonry and its purposes
@ameenkewell Granted people are ignorant all over world as long as they don't make an effort to inform themselves, but it's the same thing with those who hate the west. They have been fed a political agenda by their leaders and because they have little access to the rest of information, they believe it. It is that ignorance that led them to streets celebrating when 9/11 happened. The ignorance of hate has infested so much that they were incapable of seeing it for what it was- a human tragedy.
@ameenkewell And as long as religious leaders etc keep on telling their people that the book which is God's word tells them to hate and be ignorant, then I cannot respect or accept that. A religion is as good as their followers, that's why again I say let Muslims make the change among themselves first, then talk about others.
@soodsie Like I said the situation there is very complicated. Governments without legitimity. Populations without schools. USA and Israel taking our resources with complicity of our leaders etc...
@ameenkewell I understand, for now I say good bye to you. It was a pleasure matching perspectives, and I'm glad we can still live in a world where people still have the right to an opinion, I hope others can also have the tolerance to discourse in ways without disrespect or harm. Take care, and I wish you well.
@soodsie The pleausure is shared. It's our intelligence that made us capable of discussing, and unfortunately not everybody is capable of that today... anyway, I must go to sleep too, so take care and good night...
The other thing is, on one hand God wants this world where he even permits his followers to kill in his name to make people believe in him, yet he doesn't want everyone to understand and believe in him equally. Strange. And I think God would know us better to know the hazards of revealing to only one man in one corner of the Earth in one language that only that one man knew, how that power in hands of a select few can be abused, which I think it is. Couldn't God have prevented that?
@soodsie He never permitted to kill in his name, this thing must be understood, the quran may appear violent because islam was born in a violent era. The muslims had the mission to give the message of islam to mankind. Still, in that time if u go to persia to speak about islam to the population you ll be taken to the emperor and u ll be beheaded. So the only way u have is to go there armed and ready to fight, but a lot of kings came into islam without battles because they knew the truth before
Some Caribbean countries also had to put a stop to the call for the legalising of polygamy Islamic groups. But again, Muslims in South America are a minority, and because of centuries of being there, they are expected to have to conform with the predominant culture, there are not many constitutional liberties, nor this political correctness that would allow the societies to be more inviting of a culture that dominates their own.
@soodsie Honestly, I don't undestand the problem u have with islam. U have laws in your countries, when a muslim does something against the law, put him in jail and end of the story, why all these shows? And for Spencer, he must know that the god of the three religions can be violent. He destroyed the people of Noah and Sodom etc...
@ameenkewell You know there must be a special place for you in that magical land of no where that you believe in. Because you replied to my original comment, in the most illogical, pointless and irrelevant ways. I couldn't care less about that warrior "prophet" and his conquests and all the ego, but I do have a problem that he has created such a diabolical, violent theo- political ideology which gives his followers absolute right to impose it at will over those who do not believe the same.
@soodsie No, there is a verse that explains that nobody can impose a religion on somebody... For example, the prohet's uncle never entered islam, and the prophet had a good relationship with him anyway... And if u don't understand me well, it,s because i don't speak english very well... if u speak french it ould be better for me...
@ameenkewell And yet those followers cannot even govern themselves. And they want THEIR special law to govern the world. That's what I have a problem with and if you don't like it that is your problem. So what if everyone wants to be like west? Who are you and you group to tell them they can't? You don't want to be that way, then fine. Did I say you shouldn't? But don't try to impose YOUR way of life on me or anyone else. But then also call your "religion" what it really is: Politics.
@soodsie who had imposed to u something? nobody cares about u... Russian people are living side by side with muslim countries, and they're still russians... the probleme is you are paranoid, ignorant and belive all what tv tells u...
@ameenkewell Again you're giving examples without proper knowledge, really Russian people have lived side by side with Muslims without problems? The 2010 subway bombings, hello! And again you conclude and assume I know nothing of Islam, I have been exposed to many religions as a youngster, including Islam. What I found there, were more questions than answers. And after listening to so many imams and clerics become obsessed with hate against Jew and Christians, I knew there is no peace there.
@soodsie which hatred r u talking about, as a muslim i can marry a jew or a christian and I'm supposed to hate them? Theyre living in muslim countries for centuries, the shoah happend in europe... And again about Russia, you re mixing everything, the problem there is a political problem, it s a liberation war, it s not to convert people to islam... even in quebec, there were such bombings to obtain their freedoms... it has nothing to do with religion...
@ameenkewell Firstly, as a Muslim man you can marry a Jew etc, because it means the woman will convert,but a Muslim woman would be killed if she marries a non Muslim. And the struggle in Russian might be a political one, but when would Muslims learn to solve political issues without violence? Because Islam is more about politics than religion. Yes, I do support people and their struggle for Self Determination, but why the violence, and why the violence by Islamic fundamentalists?
@ameenkewell And the only reason we're discussing these incidents is because you couldn't separate politics from religion, and then you tried to separate it by saying Muslims coexist with others irregardless of of their religion, and I'm giving example of each even when you change it around.
@ameenkewell And the whole "there is no compulsion in religion" bit, TELL THAT TO YOUR FELLOW MUSLIMS!! Because they are the ones who kill in the name of Allah, and trick and deceive people into converting. And how can there be NO compulsion in religion when the punishment for leaving Islam is DEATH? How can there be no compulsion, when your holy book divides the world into believers and non believers, when there is no room for critical debate of Islam among Muslims themselves?
@ameenkewell And how can you call this belief something given by God, when God permits you to kill his fellow creations in his name? When it is permitted to subjugate other communities because they don't believe in the same thing? And why should I accept being a part of that belief? And that's why I said, if Muslims really want to show that their religion is something spiritual and peaceful, then first try to cultivate it in your own societies before you you try to convince others. Simple.
@soodsie We try to show nothing, the only thng we tell to people is that the message is the truth, it's not sexy, but it's the truth, there are too many miracles in the quran to be a ocincidence... therefore, i choose it to save my life, and the only right to violence that islam gave me is to defend myself, i live in the west and i respect the law, and i work and i study, and I never had a problem with sombody here, and all the muslims are living like that... eexceprt very few, put them in jail
@ameenkewell Well then good for you, I respect that. But remember it is the truth to you. I don't want to get into a disrespectful argument on a topic such as which truth is the "real" truth, because I believe in respecting my fellow man. But I just want to say that if what was written in the Q'uran is the word of God, then I don't think God would be that unkind to reveal it to a "select few" in only their language. If that was universal truth we would've all had a Q'uran in our own language.
@hannahr77 haha, So what if Jeremiah (pbuh) & Isaiah (pbuh) weren't named...Prophet Muhammad is not mentioned in the Quran either dumb Ass. & I know about your religion and how the jews are cursed by Allah, YES you guys WERE the chosen ones, the children of israel but your antique and your blaspheme every now and then made Allah sure that you guys are worthless and trouble makers. & it shows, all hell fire upon u, remember the holocaust. u guys are worthless pieces of shit, and should be killed
@msikande The bible AND the qur'an are both flat earth books written by primitive men, if you believe they are true in the 21st century, you must be brainwashed, insane or retarded.
@1empathy Quran is the only revelation which can't be changed not even a single context. The Old testament has been fabricated and changed and so has been the new testament. One of the biggest proof and miracle out of a billion other about the Quran is that it can't be changed. The rest other billion miracle and proof are left for your retarded ignorant ass to research yourself. But you wont, cause you're a Jew, whom Allah has already cursed. & Rightly so Shit breath.
@msikande It's a flat earth book and so it is nonsense, written by men who thought the earth was flat and so not by your imaginary ruler allah AND it was changed, repeatedly. The qur'an you read today was only one of many, The others were destroyed, if you read more than one book you would know that. Islam has stole your mind and your foreskin, you can get your mind back. I'm not religious but i would rather be a jew than a muslim who copied his religion from the jews. LOL !
@1empathy Hardy Har har, not only are you ignorant but you have an identity crisis also, who doesn't even know which religion to choose. Islam is Light my human-mate, study it, learn it, accept it. No one is forcing your sorry ass. Muslims never reject Judaism and Christianity, and believe in all the prophets mentioned in the bible. Quran was never a book, it was revealed and memorized from the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) uptil today in the exact form in arabic. & its not in English Retard
@msikande oh deluded one! will you not see! All religions i have studied are man made nonsense, especially islam and christianity. You need to check your history to see how the qur'an was first recorded leading to the uthman qur'an after which all the differing versions were destroyed.
Muslims always try to convert every non Muslim they meet, if you tell them that you do not accept Islam especially judging how its followers perpetrate terrorism and preach hatred, Islam seems to be a violent religion, then they say that is not the "real" Islam, that Islam is the religion of peace. I suggest they start converting the fake Muslims first because they are the ones wreaking the most havoc in the world today. First get them to follow this "religion of peace" before condemning others.
@soodsie The fake muslims are here so USA can take the oil, u dumb.... turn on your brain, why muslims in Indonesia don't make trouble? why muslims in south america don't make problems? why it is only muslims who are living in oil countries that are terrorists plus Palestine. To them u can add terrorists in Nigeria who are not muslims but they're doing the same things to save their country, and Noriega, or Che Guevara were muslims too?
@ameenkewell Did I call anyone on this forum dumb? So what gives you the right to spew your words just because I have a different opinion? And who told you Indonesian Muslims don't clash with other groups? But in many ways the Islam practised in Indonesia is different, some of those practices would be considered blasphemous to mainstream Islam. But Militancy and fundamentalist Islam is present, and not only are Muslims clashing with the Christians, they are also fighting among themselves.
@soodsie Where were the muslims during the cold war? during WW2? Where were they when Europe where colonizing Africa and south America and killing hundreds of millions of people? Your civilization has slaughtered the half of the world, and you're criticizing the power of a man who not only created an empire from china to spain starting with nothing, but his empire continues today with a billion and a half people, He is capable of converting american PHDs only with a book, beside that u r nothing
The Muslims in South America are also different, because the culture of the society on the whole even in political terms (Socialism). But from time to time you do have Muslims engaging in activities such as honour killings and violence against women, of course I wouldn't say that it is all because of Islam, but honour killings in for eg. Brazil has been linked to Islamic fundamentalism.
@ameenkewell The Muslims in South America are also different, because the culture of the society on the whole even in political terms (Socialism). But from time to time you do have Muslims engaging in activities such as honour killings and violence against women, of course I wouldn't say that it is all because of Islam, but honour killings in for eg. Brazil has been linked to Islamic fundamentalism.
And I really did not find the logic in your link between Che Guevara and Islam. Marxism, Communism is exclusive of religious doctrine. So unless you're suggesting that Che was reading the Q'uran and following the teachings of Muhammad which lead him to be a revolutionary, then I'm sorry your point makes no sense.
@soodsie No, they have a common enemy... Spencer says that islam is totalitarian, but consider this... What are people wearing all across the world? the same clothes than in the west, everybody live like the west, behave like the west, and one of the rare population which doesn't want this model, u want to destroy it.... A lot of non muslims countries had frontiers with muslim countries and there was no problem, But the west has destroyd africa, even south america partially and now it s us
if this is what Allah say why are there no religion leaders trying to stop those muslims who believe in waging war agents Christains,in my country they even have name they call we christains and wish to kill all of us,our country is big with different culture i don no how they can ever do that and christains believe in forgiveness and never fight back
our people in the northern part of Nigeria are dying in the heads of Muslims all in the name of Islam,what is all this religion matter allabout ,why can't the Muslims wait for God to judge .as big as Nigeria they want us to practice Islamic law .they even say Allahuwakbar when they are about to kill ,going to kill ppl when they are sleepin in their house,
It is interesting to note that there is not one modern man or woman of learning, wit or intelligence who quotes the koran or mohammed.
The world has come to know the real islam - not through good deeds, great words of inspiration or peace, but through violence, terrorism, sexism, homophobia, delusion, lies and death.
Let no one be surprised, because fundamentally, this is the true nature of both mohammed and islam which is clearly evident in the koran.
@TheProphetMo - spot on - Islam is so childish and makes it's adherence childish - there are instructions on what to eat, how to dress, which foot to put forward first when entering the loo, etc. But worse of all it is a "religion" which will not allow questioning of any kind - like a dad who won't allow the kids to ask questions and punishes them terribly if they do. - Blessings - Rene
It would be very interesting to watch moustafa zayed or other so called scholars debate anjem choudry on these issues. At least anjem is not a deceitful liar.
@harryhippo22 Anjem belongs to Salafi Islam which is a very extreme orthodox sect according to my knowledge. Anjem will consider Zayed a heretic and will not agree with him on most issues. The Egyptian Azhar approach to Islam is very different from that of the Saudis.
I believe Islam just like any other cultural heritage is double sided. It depends on the believer which side he's willing to take. The same thing applies to Christianity and Judaism. If a person is evil he/she can conform the text to their evil, while a good person can follow the good examples and find spiritual peace. But the point is, Muhammad was a very good person if we take his cultural background, his tolerance and moral integrity were exemplary for the 7th century.
People like Robert Spencer are the source of evil. He is basically trying to change the entire context of something which he was never brought up in and by reading books, not forgetting that he doesn't even understand the base of all of it. Hence he is all over the place, and pretty devil like attitude, attack attack attack with all non-sense. Spencer has found a nice way of making money by writing all crap
No my dear lost friend the only evil here is muhammad and his equal evil ill-allah, and yes Robert is all over blowing up things, and killing ppl in the course of ill-allah, you ppl should really educate yourselves before you open your ignorant mouth
“When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.” Sura 9:5.
Yes, it does actually say that. The Koran is the highest authority in Islam.
@hannahr77 The life after Your death & My death will decide whose right and whose wrong, hence if you're not willing to accept Islam as a religion then at least learn to take the names associated with the Religion with some respect. & Muslims know everything regarding Judaism & Christianity as we believe in all of that we believe in the Old testament and the gospel, we believe in Jesus Christ hence go & educate YOURSELF & open your books rather than surfing on Youtube all day like a lowlife
no your so wrong muslims do not know anything abt Judaism or Christianity not even their own religion, you say muslims believe in all the prophets from the O.T, so now tell me abt Isaiah and what did he have to say abt islam same with Jeremiah, my dear lost friend muhammad/ill-allah lied and the Jews and Christians died simple as that
@hannahr77 I am a Muslim & I know about my religion and about your religion more than any of you so called religious debaters. Isaiah was a prophet of Islam just like Jeremiah. & cut your crap by calling me Lost. Jews are the cursed ones, Christians are the strayed ones, hence Allah (The One & one your god & my god) sent Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as a mercy to man kind. Now instead of talking about the past prophets go and do some research about Prophet Muhammad and the Islamic ways.
so where can I find Isaiah and Jeremiah in your fake cursed book the quran? muhammad was a and still a curse to mankind, so now tell me what do you know abt my religion, anything?
Right from start,Mr Robert Spencer couldn't quote anything which is said by Prophet Muhammad himself, all he does is quotations from commentaries of other scholars.Even here one cannot trust him to be truthful to the quote,because even when he quotes the suras of Quran he deliberatly omits sentences ,so how can one belive Mr.Spencer is not doing the same with these commentaries..
Just watch at 11.00 minutes.. how .Robert spencer laughs in shame!!!!
Mohammad is no prophet. His actions base on the quran and hadith have almost totally no semblance whatsoever to divinity. mohammad had killed, plundered and had sex with multiple wives, these cannot be the doing of a divine man!
In the Srimad Bhagavatam 3.25, Lord Krishna said: “The symptoms of a sadhu are that he is tolerant, merciful and friendly to all living entities. He has no enemies, he is peaceful, he abides by the scriptures, and all his characteristics are sublime.”
Spencer cannot possibly be defeated in a debate re islam and the false prophet mohammed. He consistently pounds his opponents into submission with his mental prowess. So glad he's on the side of good, fighting the evil that is Islam. God Bless Spencer, and thanks for your works... you're truly a soldier of God.
Mustafa is not even sure about his own camp. He points towards the inconsistant mind of madudi of pakistan and not only that he tries to divert the thing by saying that it is suni or shia or other and not islamic. give me a break. try to have agreement on what sharia you want in the world and talk of implementing it in Europe or USA will come later
One really has to question the sincerity of debates such as these. There are never any winners. Muslims never bombard Christians or Jews or Hindus with questions to prove their religion in this way. I as a muslim believe the Islamic Scholar made as good a defense as could have been made. But certainly you cannot expect a life long anti-muslim Robert Spencer to be swayed by that.
@deadpinkowl If you think there is no benefit to having an honest and open debate, then we should never discuss anything!
Muslims never bombard Christians or Jews with questions? Yeah, they just commit acts of genocide in Sudan and Saudi Arabia.
Spencer wasn't swayed because it's bullshit. The Koran clearly says when you encounter an unbeliever you have 3 options. Convert, Tax, or Kill. Now, are you going to deny these passages exists or refute it?
I dont understand thé western ppl r so afraid Of muslim radical or terroriste. Westerner hd conquered almost half Of this earth. Thé uneducated terroriste fém. Afghanistan made Your shaken?
@FeignofCordor 'the muslim guy is like a child. Give him some sweats and send him home.'
So he can get 200 of his friends and come back, burn your house down, rape your wife, kidnap your daughters, and kill your brothers and your dogs. You'll be paying some new taxes.
non-Muslims shouldn't have to pay anything! It like trying to defend a men that beats his wife with a 20 inch stick by saying he actually used a 15 inch one. They are both still bad!!
In the beautiful garden of wisdom, Islam is nothing but a deadly, invasive weed.
Rather than offering up ten thousand prayers for peace and harmony in the world, it would be better simply to outlaw the one Satanic evil of Islam.
Come my non muslim brother and sisters, let us gather the rocks of truth, logic and reason - for with them as our ammunition, together we can stone the illegitimate bastard of islam to death.
@hexcane Secular liberals condone torture of Muslims, yesterday same people enslaved blacks, and before that eliminated the red indians, tollerant my ass
@hexcane Its secular fascists who have caused world wide poverty today thx the corrupt capitalism model, secularist and communist who have killed more human beings in the last 200 years then all others in the last millenniums, its you bastards who colonized India, middle east, Africa, established 55 secular dictators robed looted then ask us to go back to our broken homes you fuckin pig. Go fuck your dad and crawl back up your mamas whore vagina whiny bitch.
@hexcane Muslims believe those who fear God are superior to those who dont. Som1 who holds himself accountable at all times in fear of the consequences of the next life is seen as superior. THe Prophet did say no one is superior in terms of race but are superior in terms of TAQWA- piety fear of God.
Secular liberals believe they too are superior to religous folk both Christian and Muslim, all people have a form of social hierarchy you, its a form of survival
@hexcane You never defined what a rational human being is. If you mean by rational an atheist then I ask you where does an Atheist derive his principles and values from. Atheism believes in no good or evil no right or wrong, right or wrong is defined by where and when your born. If your born in Nazi Germany or Stalins russia its okay to kill 6 million Jews or 40 million Christians because Atheism values change and atheism has no set principles, survival of the fittest mentality
I dont worship Mary or priests get that through your rhick skull my freind. You always this angry? I worship Jesus,Issa because he is G-d the Son, three persons one G-d....bible teaches that and the Bible came before the Quran and it's superior to it sorry. Muslims use and need the Bible, Christians don't need the Quran.
We have to understand that muslims tell their followers one thing and non-muslims another for PC and propaganda purposes. So this muslims apologist is either naive or he is using Taqiyya or Kitman .i.e lying to to non-mulsims which is called for in the Quran(Surah 3:28 & 16:106). Yes I have the Quran and Hadith with me so please don't tell me what it says ok?
@bigblackdyx Not even close you stupid moolinyan. I do have the advantage of at least knowing who my father is. "Da pope" "Wankin"hmmm I bet your some some bluegum fuck who left the motherland and landed in England. maybe? Look asshole, find Dr. Mbogo to give you something for the touch of Ebolad you must have.Try making some sensenest time, ok? Adios form L.A.
@muslimgiga You are a filthy pig Muslim. Go and declare jihad on your mummy's dirty crab infested pussy. Wow that's really disgusting but so is islam. I can tell you a pakishitstain, your people are sellout they helped kill Osama bin lostatsea cheap like Islam,muhPIGman,Muslims. Osama is at the bottom of the ocean wrapped in a pig with a anchor around his neck. And he needs company he's waiting for you. "death to Islam"
kennyufc09 1 week ago
No religions is higher then "TRUTH".
MultiTruths 1 week ago
Yes Moustafa, Pigs, Apes and Donkeys are all Muslim. Yes, they also wash before farting. Yes LIAR Moustafa, our Holy Bible and Torah is corrupt cos the Dead Sea Scrolls found that predated back to the time of Jesus, PROVED that the Holy Bible and the Torah are both AUTHENTIC and NOT corrupt as Falsely claimed by Muslims cos Muhammad use this PRETEXT to coverup his Plagarism and twisting of the Holy Christian Scriptures. Oh Muhammad, allah seems to conveniently grant your all Ur sexual desires.
shcoke2 2 weeks ago
I had lived in a Muslim country before and NON-MUSLIMS are treated as second class citizens and Blatantly DISCRIMIATED by the MUSLIM GOVERNMENT. I know how I was treated! Mustaffa is LYING in here and he has the Odesity to LIE without flinching his eyes. How ridiculous! Robert Spencer is speaking the TRUTH and setting the record straight in here for the world to see.
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Mustaffa is a Bladi LIAR. I just heard him, there is NO COMPULSION in ISLAM but when LINA a Malaysian Muslim decides to become a Christian, Muslims there want to KILL her and she was forced into hiding. The Malaysian SHARIA court DENIED her petition to change her religion from ISLAM to CHRISTIANITY. This is NOT FICTION but a true sad STORY. Do a youtube search on her suffering & plight. What Muslims claim and what they actually practice are two different things. Hadith says to KILL all Apostates
shcoke2 2 weeks ago
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shcoke2 2 weeks ago
There is no allah but Allah and his fake Prophet Muhammad! Moslems are willing to suicide Bomb or Kill you just to prove that Islam is peaceful... : )
shcoke2 2 weeks ago
islam is a peace loving religion to the top comment there is no reason to call him a fat Muslim and you cannot tell if islam will e defeated because if it doesnt and it prospers you will burn in the hell fire so its best to just not say bad things about others religion im Muslim and im not bad mouthing christianity. the people who spread hate about other religions are going against there own religions because all religions teach peacefulness
bdmassiv 3 weeks ago
I love being muslim!
jedeye15 1 month ago
Robert Spencer is today's Charles Martel, fiercely opposing and driving back the attack of bloody Islam on our civilization using the sword of TRUTH.
ScreeminMeeme 1 month ago 2
Thanks God for Robert Spencer and TRUTH, which is the enemy of Islam.
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tigersforchrist 2 months ago
spencer rocks....
MrPriyush 2 months ago 3
bringing a stupid politician's one time purely individual act of character in the picture is just ridiculous. (this politician lives in the 21st century whr everything is recorded, of course he is going to act just for publicity or votes, but not becaus of mohammad's teachings) how does that negate that mohammad still waged war against the non beleivers and subjugated them
kumkum19 3 months ago
zoroastrians of iran hav been migrating out to india since the 7th century and during the qajar dynasty zorostrians in india had to send money to zorastrians in iran becaus the tax was sooo heavy causing for the 2nd largest exodus of zoroastrians to india.its amazing the lies muslims like mustafa's forefathers tell themselves whose very ancestors were subjugated.egypt had a great civilization before islam. its such a shame.
kumkum19 3 months ago
great job on mr. spencer! apparently mr. mustafa doesnt know that a tax based on ur religion as a minority is a state of subjugation. and please the tax WAS horrendous to a point that non muslims had to migrate or convert. if not the case why isnt ther a large non-muslim population in a muslim country to this date?
kumkum19 3 months ago 3
Christianity taught the same thing to Christians.
1JesseW 3 months ago
@1JesseW - "Christianity taught the same thing to Christians."
Where? I believe Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
There literally is not one single Bible verse where Jesus advocates waging war, violence, or surreptitiousness in any form to gain converts. Jesus never once advocated the use of any form of compulsion to convert.
TheHorta 3 months ago
@TheHorta They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
1JesseW 3 months ago
@1JesseW - I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing a quote by Jesus anywhere in there.
TheHorta 3 months ago
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@TheHorta It doesn't have to be written by Jesus to be part of the Bible. Historically, you don't have to look further than the Inquisition and the Crusades to know that Christianity believes in the suppression of non-believers. Now, don't tell me that the people who were in the Crusades and those who masterminded the Inquisition weren't real Christians.
1JesseW 3 months ago
@1JesseW - " It doesn't have to be written by Jesus to be part of the Bible..."
I can see where this is going, but what the hell... I'll play for a while ;-)
While it doesn't have to be from Jesus to be in the Bible, it DOES have to be from Jesus to be "Christianity" -- i.e. his namesake. Your quote is historical, and not "Christian."
The "Bible" was canonized ostensibly by what became the Roman Catholic Church, a largely pagan-inspired organization that most have mistaken as "Christianity."
TheHorta 3 months ago
@TheHorta You might disagree about Roman Catholicism being part of Christianity, but it is generally accepted that Catholicism is part of Christianity. After all, it was the first major Christian faith.
1JesseW 3 months ago
@1JesseW - "but it is generally accepted that Catholicism is part of Christianity. After all, it was the first major Christian faith."
I'm not really disagreeing with you, in fact I believe you have just proven my point. "Christianity," as the major religion primarily formed by the Roman Catholic Church, has been one of the greatest scourges in human history, much as Islam today is.
However, it comes back to Christ and his teachings and words, regardless of religion.
Religion IS man-made.
TheHorta 3 months ago
@TheHorta You have a point about Jesus being righteous in his teachings on the basis of what he said regarding how people should act morally, but I have yet seen an undistorted interpretation of that.
1JesseW 3 months ago
@1JesseW - "but I have yet seen an undistorted interpretation of that."
Unfortunately, I can only agree with you.
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1JesseW 3 months ago
Robert Spencer wins again.
SissingPyd 3 months ago
It's so ridiculous and pointless to debate with muslim debaters,b/c they will keep lying and denying by shifting the words,transparent open lies,,,no one can mess up between the words kill and defend,muslims have been fooling themselves over 14 centuries by lying & denying & ignoring,that's why they remain backward,
lucyana222 3 months ago
@lucyana222 It is pointless but still very easy to beat them. All you need to destroy their claims of a religion of peace, is in the Koran ready and waiting!
SissingPyd 3 months ago
@SissingPyd All the world including the world's muslims know that islam isn't a religion of peace,so even muslim scholars & apoligists & sheiks have claimed that islam is a religion of force & terror to horrify & defeat the enemies,in their satanic faith & barbaric uncivlised mentalities,There is no need to beat them,b/c poor muslims have been already beaten by islam over 14 centuries & being beaten by each others in current days,islam is a religion of kill or killed, 2 choices submitted or deat
lucyana222 3 months ago
Doctors and health workers have been banned from eating at their desks, lest it upset Muslim during Ramadan.Obviously Muslims are delighted.A Muslim Senior Consultant said 'This is about educating people and making them more aware and more confident when dealing with issues involving the Muslim community'.
If it's true that we all need to learn and understand more about each others cultures, then why don't Muslims embrace Christmas,Easter or Valentines day. Why have the 3 pigs been slaughtered?
TheFestivelights 3 months ago
Since Muslims are to lazy to work, the jyzre is necessary. It is extortion from Christians. Protectin, racketeering, and extotrion from the kiffar so Muslims can live off them and be the paracites they are.
What pigs!
Hughganaught 3 months ago
That is the WHOLE POINT OF RELIGION, to CREATE WAR
Simply put, there could have been no royalty without a god or gods to ordain them, and its the Royal themselves who created "God", creating gods and religions was a means of establishing and creating "authority" for royals in order for them to rule in the first place. They were "ordained" by the very gods that they created.
thone2008 4 months ago
Wow! Moustafa Zayed crushed Spencer to crumbles.
TrinityDesist 4 months ago
@TrinityDesist LOL You didnt see nor heard the debate, didnt you? XD
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@skepticaldemocrat I've seen this debate first time. The point of Moustafa Zayed is very clear, produce your evidence from Muhammad (saw), not from some interpreter of Qur'an.
spencer failed to do that. Lol!
Peace!
TrinityDesist 4 months ago
@TrinityDesist LOL Spencer quoted the quran, the hadith, high level islamic commentators of quran!
And he failed?
LOL Guess you cannot understand debates.
No wonder he laughed at Zayed when he said he quoted them all but Zayed still knew better than all of them (sarcasm)!
If you dont have the brain to understand him, its impossible to reason with you. Muslims cant debate. :P
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@skepticaldemocrat Lol! I hope you are not a christian. Well, spencer is quoting a verse from qur'an than he uses an interpreter for try to show what the verse means. Zayed is saying basically, don't give me somebodies understanding of Qur'an, give it from the prophet (saw) himself. Is that to hard to understand for you my friend?
Only you can do is insult. Well, i am peaceful person. I only say peace be upon you!
TrinityDesist 4 months ago
@TrinityDesist So what?
He still quotes quran, the important quran specialist who commented it, and the hadith!
So what?
:D
Oh, you violated verse 9:29. Dont sin. ;)
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@skep You need to know that there is no book claim to be word of God, merciful and just than Qur'an. I challenge you.
I sin :) Lol! I see another person try to teach me my religion which he has no clue on it.
Now, consider this two verse with your ignorant view:
Qur'an 9:29 with
"All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman." Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13
Kill children, woman etc. who do not accept YHWH to their God?
:D
Peace!
TrinityDesist 4 months ago
@TrinityDesist I am not a ChritianI LOL
And how Bible`s violence justifyes Quran`s violence? It`s like sayiing Hitler`s crimes justify Stalin`s crimes!
LMAO Dodging subject: first or only resort of who knows nothing. :D
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@skepticaldemocrat I don't see any crimes at all. Show me where is the crime on this verse? I don't know any civil laws which forbids a person from "stand against oppression" or better saying "self-defense".
My challenge is stands: Show me one book which claims to be Word of God, teaches mercy, just, kind and morality to humankind more than Qur'an.
Peace!
TrinityDesist 4 months ago
I don't understand why Mustafa is doing all this. He tries to debate with people who are destroying the planet, who enslaved africa, who slaughtered amerindians, who launched atomic bombs on civilians, who can't even handle their own government which is directly responsible of 9-11. Think about it, China is powerful today, because geographically it's far from the west which destroys everything it touches. we have no lessons to take from them.
ameenkewell 4 months ago
@ameenkewell Muslims enslaved Africa too.
And if you really believe that US government is directly responsible for 9/11 attacks, there is lots of logical stuuf you cant understand. Conspiracy theorists are famous for their lack of knowledge and lack of debating skills, etc.
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@ameenkewell Oh, I forgot: China didnmt destroyed democratic opposition and tibetans? And adversaries in their party?
Mao isnt one of the 3 most cruel rulers of Earth (based in the tens of millions he killed)?
You understand nothing of reality nor debating.
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@skepticaldemocrat I don't care about China. All I say is that historically the west has killed much more than islam, so we don't have lessons to take from u. For 9-11 if u can explain the wtc 7 collapsing... anyway, you are as much a consipracy theorist as I am, the only diffrence is that you are accusing people who have absolutely no power of conspiracy, while I'm accusing veru powerful people... which shows your logical mind
ameenkewell 4 months ago
@ameenkewell No power of conspiracy... That shows your illogical no-mind. Grow up, kid. This is real world. USA`s government is not that powerful to the point of hiding its own secrets, real conspiracies included, and you muslims are not that incompetent.
How do you know that islam killed less than west? Do you have statistics? Or did you just made up that claim?
skepticaldemocrat 4 months ago
@talwad Spencer is very sharp. I'm Proud of him he blew up this filthy fat Muslim. Got him every-time. Islam will be defeated as it has now for 1200 years we've been handing there ass to them so so many times and always quick.
They are stupid,filthy,liars,diseased,lazy,greasy,miscreants,infidels,non believers,thieves, and I'm being nice. "Muhammad the child molester ass fucker "
kennyufc09 4 months ago 18
@kennyufc09 You obviously didn't listen to ANYTHING Mustafa said. Spencer's outright LIES and deliberate misquoting immediately disqualifies him as a credible person. This guy is a clown. Mustafa spent HALF the debate trying to correct his idiotic lies and misinformation.
Grow a brain before you analyze anything. Your obviously a brainwashed islamaphobe.
Andres Brevick is waiting for you.
muslimgiga 1 week ago
@TheComputerEngineer You are all deceived by your prophet and your clerics. Thinking people will not bite your excuses. Do not blame Israel of your miseries. It's your punishment for messing with them. Don't you have pity on your youths who suffer with you because of your stubbornness? If your Allah is really with you, he must have save you from the "evil Jews". Your god is a racist god, for no sane reason at all. You cannot defeat Israel. So better stay where you are. Leave them alone.
akinangmundo 4 months ago 3
Islam does not teach violence. Only major violence I know of is through the corruption of Zionism. The invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan with the constant bombardment of Muslim land. All the false flag operations for Israeli expansion and war profiteering with the United States citizens tax payer dollars. 9/11 is Middle Easts 24/7. The Zionist control the U.S government and the media. Many of you have severely been deceived with misinformation from non credible Muslim sources, bigots and media.
TheComputerEngineer 4 months ago
Propaganda video.
786swe 5 months ago
but in reality what's politic? and what's religion?... rules. I don't understand why it must be separated. The thing is simple. When a muslim is outside his muslim country, he respects the laws of where he is. And in a muslim country, if a majority a people decide to be ruled by muslim laws, it s their business...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell See I'm not going to mention Suras and all of that, but you're not telling the truth. Muslims believe the entire world is their holy land. They don't recognise "other people's" land. So you said yourself, religion and politics are not different. But when you go about saying this book was written by God, then did God create politics? Or did a man right a book stating it was the word of God to further his political agenda?
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie That's untrue, there's a verse which clearly states that if people wants to have peace with u accept it, and that's what the prophet did in al hudaybiyya with polytheists...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
What u re telling is untrue, I can marry a jew even if she dosen't convert, otherwise it's marrying a... muslim. And political problems are not everytime solvable by peaceful means, the best example is the palestinian one... and it s not only muslim, all mankind is made like that, if u tell me where u r from, i ll give u examples from your own country...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
From what I know, If god wanted to, it would be easy for him to make everybody believe in him, a little miracle right now and the whole world would believe, but he made things so it will require an incredible intellectual effort for everybody just to put feelings aside and to analyze the quran very critically and to understand that it comes from god
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell I find a few things which bother me about that. Miracles are for those who don't want to think in the first place. Children in Islamic societies are hardly given anything else to stir their intellect and they are taught to memorise the Q'uran before they can speak and they have to accept whatever interpretations are given to them. They don't get to intellectually or critically analyse anything. And worst of all if they question they are admonished and asked to seek God's forgiveness
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie I personally admit that in the muslim world today we have a caricature of islam, the first verse in the quran says : READ... and there is a big intellectual problem in these countries, and it s the source of all our problems, and it has nothing to do with islam... I know the history of islam and in the beginning we had a lot of great scientists and philosophers etc.... the actual situation is due to a lot of reasons....
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Again, that is proof that no book was written by God, because through times it can be so misinterpreted to fit whatever need. Even if you take a group of people in a room and tell one to pass on a message to the very last in the room, the last person gets an entirely different message from what the first person was told. So why not a book written centuries ago?
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie we know it's from god by the miracles that it contains, how can a man in a seventh century know the proportion of water and land in the planet? a lot of scientific and mathematical and litterar miracles taht proves that this book can't be from a man... but I admit that half of them u need to know arabic to undrestand them...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Truths are truths, never mind when they are discovered, they never change. The Hindu book, the Bhagvad Gita, it makes reference to nuclear science, and that was way before Judaism, Christianity or Islam, are you saying that I should believe that the Gita is the word of God, even when the Gita itself does not make such a proclamation? But have you even read and analysed other books on religious philosophy before coming to the conclusion that yours is the ULTIMATE TRUTH?
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie I can say that I did my research and studied many religions. My conclusion is islam. and the fact that people attack it today somehow proves to me that I'm right... For the hindus, it's more a philosophy... and quickly u can see that it's not what you re looking for...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell What's wrong with philosophy? Philosophy is the study of wisdom, what's wrong with wisdom? I am not a Hindu but what I find admirable is that they don't force anyone to believe in what they believe and to help in understanding of the world, they don't restrict their knowledge of the world to just one book in one time of the existence of the world, it is a deeply developed philosophy that has been enhanced through the knowledge gained by humanity through thousands of years.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie All what u r saying can be applied to islam... The main problem, is just that I must find what happens after death, I can't go forward without answering this question, and I must be sure about it... This far, I don't have a special problem with hinduism, and I know that they have a lot of common teachings with islam... but it doesn't answer my questions...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell I think it's much better than having your beliefs handed to you in a Book that is the ultimate words of God that cannot change or be questioned, yet which does not solve problems in all times, which in this time is used to justify so much hate, and also be told that I cannot think against that book, when God actually gave man his brain to think, before he gave man the book.
soodsie 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Satan knew. He told Mohammed. Mystery solved.
CorrosionX3 5 months ago
@ameenkewell It also brings me back to my original post, which you admit now, that if Muslims wanted others to respect and accept their belief, they are the first ones who have to prove through their own example that Islam is indeed a religion of peace and love. Or else who is to judge what is "real" Islam and what is just a caricature? Especially when you say this perfect book of Allah is in their hands written in their language and they can't even interpret it correctly.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie The problem is not only a muslim's problem. In the west, people are too much ignorant and the medias manipulate them as they want... the inquiry about nine eleven is problematic in many ways, and the western people couldn't even do something to find the truth about what happened that day... anayway, to understand you must know what is freemasonry and its purposes
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Granted people are ignorant all over world as long as they don't make an effort to inform themselves, but it's the same thing with those who hate the west. They have been fed a political agenda by their leaders and because they have little access to the rest of information, they believe it. It is that ignorance that led them to streets celebrating when 9/11 happened. The ignorance of hate has infested so much that they were incapable of seeing it for what it was- a human tragedy.
soodsie 5 months ago
@ameenkewell And as long as religious leaders etc keep on telling their people that the book which is God's word tells them to hate and be ignorant, then I cannot respect or accept that. A religion is as good as their followers, that's why again I say let Muslims make the change among themselves first, then talk about others.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie Like I said the situation there is very complicated. Governments without legitimity. Populations without schools. USA and Israel taking our resources with complicity of our leaders etc...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell I understand, for now I say good bye to you. It was a pleasure matching perspectives, and I'm glad we can still live in a world where people still have the right to an opinion, I hope others can also have the tolerance to discourse in ways without disrespect or harm. Take care, and I wish you well.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie The pleausure is shared. It's our intelligence that made us capable of discussing, and unfortunately not everybody is capable of that today... anyway, I must go to sleep too, so take care and good night...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
The other thing is, on one hand God wants this world where he even permits his followers to kill in his name to make people believe in him, yet he doesn't want everyone to understand and believe in him equally. Strange. And I think God would know us better to know the hazards of revealing to only one man in one corner of the Earth in one language that only that one man knew, how that power in hands of a select few can be abused, which I think it is. Couldn't God have prevented that?
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie He never permitted to kill in his name, this thing must be understood, the quran may appear violent because islam was born in a violent era. The muslims had the mission to give the message of islam to mankind. Still, in that time if u go to persia to speak about islam to the population you ll be taken to the emperor and u ll be beheaded. So the only way u have is to go there armed and ready to fight, but a lot of kings came into islam without battles because they knew the truth before
ameenkewell 5 months ago
Some Caribbean countries also had to put a stop to the call for the legalising of polygamy Islamic groups. But again, Muslims in South America are a minority, and because of centuries of being there, they are expected to have to conform with the predominant culture, there are not many constitutional liberties, nor this political correctness that would allow the societies to be more inviting of a culture that dominates their own.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie Honestly, I don't undestand the problem u have with islam. U have laws in your countries, when a muslim does something against the law, put him in jail and end of the story, why all these shows? And for Spencer, he must know that the god of the three religions can be violent. He destroyed the people of Noah and Sodom etc...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell You know there must be a special place for you in that magical land of no where that you believe in. Because you replied to my original comment, in the most illogical, pointless and irrelevant ways. I couldn't care less about that warrior "prophet" and his conquests and all the ego, but I do have a problem that he has created such a diabolical, violent theo- political ideology which gives his followers absolute right to impose it at will over those who do not believe the same.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie No, there is a verse that explains that nobody can impose a religion on somebody... For example, the prohet's uncle never entered islam, and the prophet had a good relationship with him anyway... And if u don't understand me well, it,s because i don't speak english very well... if u speak french it ould be better for me...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell And yet those followers cannot even govern themselves. And they want THEIR special law to govern the world. That's what I have a problem with and if you don't like it that is your problem. So what if everyone wants to be like west? Who are you and you group to tell them they can't? You don't want to be that way, then fine. Did I say you shouldn't? But don't try to impose YOUR way of life on me or anyone else. But then also call your "religion" what it really is: Politics.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie who had imposed to u something? nobody cares about u... Russian people are living side by side with muslim countries, and they're still russians... the probleme is you are paranoid, ignorant and belive all what tv tells u...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Again you're giving examples without proper knowledge, really Russian people have lived side by side with Muslims without problems? The 2010 subway bombings, hello! And again you conclude and assume I know nothing of Islam, I have been exposed to many religions as a youngster, including Islam. What I found there, were more questions than answers. And after listening to so many imams and clerics become obsessed with hate against Jew and Christians, I knew there is no peace there.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie which hatred r u talking about, as a muslim i can marry a jew or a christian and I'm supposed to hate them? Theyre living in muslim countries for centuries, the shoah happend in europe... And again about Russia, you re mixing everything, the problem there is a political problem, it s a liberation war, it s not to convert people to islam... even in quebec, there were such bombings to obtain their freedoms... it has nothing to do with religion...
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Firstly, as a Muslim man you can marry a Jew etc, because it means the woman will convert,but a Muslim woman would be killed if she marries a non Muslim. And the struggle in Russian might be a political one, but when would Muslims learn to solve political issues without violence? Because Islam is more about politics than religion. Yes, I do support people and their struggle for Self Determination, but why the violence, and why the violence by Islamic fundamentalists?
soodsie 5 months ago
@ameenkewell And the only reason we're discussing these incidents is because you couldn't separate politics from religion, and then you tried to separate it by saying Muslims coexist with others irregardless of of their religion, and I'm giving example of each even when you change it around.
soodsie 5 months ago
@ameenkewell And the whole "there is no compulsion in religion" bit, TELL THAT TO YOUR FELLOW MUSLIMS!! Because they are the ones who kill in the name of Allah, and trick and deceive people into converting. And how can there be NO compulsion in religion when the punishment for leaving Islam is DEATH? How can there be no compulsion, when your holy book divides the world into believers and non believers, when there is no room for critical debate of Islam among Muslims themselves?
soodsie 5 months ago
@ameenkewell And how can you call this belief something given by God, when God permits you to kill his fellow creations in his name? When it is permitted to subjugate other communities because they don't believe in the same thing? And why should I accept being a part of that belief? And that's why I said, if Muslims really want to show that their religion is something spiritual and peaceful, then first try to cultivate it in your own societies before you you try to convince others. Simple.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie We try to show nothing, the only thng we tell to people is that the message is the truth, it's not sexy, but it's the truth, there are too many miracles in the quran to be a ocincidence... therefore, i choose it to save my life, and the only right to violence that islam gave me is to defend myself, i live in the west and i respect the law, and i work and i study, and I never had a problem with sombody here, and all the muslims are living like that... eexceprt very few, put them in jail
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Well then good for you, I respect that. But remember it is the truth to you. I don't want to get into a disrespectful argument on a topic such as which truth is the "real" truth, because I believe in respecting my fellow man. But I just want to say that if what was written in the Q'uran is the word of God, then I don't think God would be that unkind to reveal it to a "select few" in only their language. If that was universal truth we would've all had a Q'uran in our own language.
soodsie 5 months ago
@hannahr77 haha, So what if Jeremiah (pbuh) & Isaiah (pbuh) weren't named...Prophet Muhammad is not mentioned in the Quran either dumb Ass. & I know about your religion and how the jews are cursed by Allah, YES you guys WERE the chosen ones, the children of israel but your antique and your blaspheme every now and then made Allah sure that you guys are worthless and trouble makers. & it shows, all hell fire upon u, remember the holocaust. u guys are worthless pieces of shit, and should be killed
msikande 5 months ago
@msikande The bible AND the qur'an are both flat earth books written by primitive men, if you believe they are true in the 21st century, you must be brainwashed, insane or retarded.
1empathy 5 months ago
@1empathy Quran is the only revelation which can't be changed not even a single context. The Old testament has been fabricated and changed and so has been the new testament. One of the biggest proof and miracle out of a billion other about the Quran is that it can't be changed. The rest other billion miracle and proof are left for your retarded ignorant ass to research yourself. But you wont, cause you're a Jew, whom Allah has already cursed. & Rightly so Shit breath.
msikande 5 months ago
@msikande It's a flat earth book and so it is nonsense, written by men who thought the earth was flat and so not by your imaginary ruler allah AND it was changed, repeatedly. The qur'an you read today was only one of many, The others were destroyed, if you read more than one book you would know that. Islam has stole your mind and your foreskin, you can get your mind back. I'm not religious but i would rather be a jew than a muslim who copied his religion from the jews. LOL !
1empathy 5 months ago
@1empathy Hardy Har har, not only are you ignorant but you have an identity crisis also, who doesn't even know which religion to choose. Islam is Light my human-mate, study it, learn it, accept it. No one is forcing your sorry ass. Muslims never reject Judaism and Christianity, and believe in all the prophets mentioned in the bible. Quran was never a book, it was revealed and memorized from the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) uptil today in the exact form in arabic. & its not in English Retard
msikande 5 months ago
@msikande oh deluded one! will you not see! All religions i have studied are man made nonsense, especially islam and christianity. You need to check your history to see how the qur'an was first recorded leading to the uthman qur'an after which all the differing versions were destroyed.
1empathy 5 months ago
Muslims always try to convert every non Muslim they meet, if you tell them that you do not accept Islam especially judging how its followers perpetrate terrorism and preach hatred, Islam seems to be a violent religion, then they say that is not the "real" Islam, that Islam is the religion of peace. I suggest they start converting the fake Muslims first because they are the ones wreaking the most havoc in the world today. First get them to follow this "religion of peace" before condemning others.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie The fake muslims are here so USA can take the oil, u dumb.... turn on your brain, why muslims in Indonesia don't make trouble? why muslims in south america don't make problems? why it is only muslims who are living in oil countries that are terrorists plus Palestine. To them u can add terrorists in Nigeria who are not muslims but they're doing the same things to save their country, and Noriega, or Che Guevara were muslims too?
ameenkewell 5 months ago
@ameenkewell Did I call anyone on this forum dumb? So what gives you the right to spew your words just because I have a different opinion? And who told you Indonesian Muslims don't clash with other groups? But in many ways the Islam practised in Indonesia is different, some of those practices would be considered blasphemous to mainstream Islam. But Militancy and fundamentalist Islam is present, and not only are Muslims clashing with the Christians, they are also fighting among themselves.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie Where were the muslims during the cold war? during WW2? Where were they when Europe where colonizing Africa and south America and killing hundreds of millions of people? Your civilization has slaughtered the half of the world, and you're criticizing the power of a man who not only created an empire from china to spain starting with nothing, but his empire continues today with a billion and a half people, He is capable of converting american PHDs only with a book, beside that u r nothing
ameenkewell 5 months ago
The Muslims in South America are also different, because the culture of the society on the whole even in political terms (Socialism). But from time to time you do have Muslims engaging in activities such as honour killings and violence against women, of course I wouldn't say that it is all because of Islam, but honour killings in for eg. Brazil has been linked to Islamic fundamentalism.
soodsie 5 months ago
@ameenkewell The Muslims in South America are also different, because the culture of the society on the whole even in political terms (Socialism). But from time to time you do have Muslims engaging in activities such as honour killings and violence against women, of course I wouldn't say that it is all because of Islam, but honour killings in for eg. Brazil has been linked to Islamic fundamentalism.
soodsie 5 months ago
And I really did not find the logic in your link between Che Guevara and Islam. Marxism, Communism is exclusive of religious doctrine. So unless you're suggesting that Che was reading the Q'uran and following the teachings of Muhammad which lead him to be a revolutionary, then I'm sorry your point makes no sense.
soodsie 5 months ago
@soodsie No, they have a common enemy... Spencer says that islam is totalitarian, but consider this... What are people wearing all across the world? the same clothes than in the west, everybody live like the west, behave like the west, and one of the rare population which doesn't want this model, u want to destroy it.... A lot of non muslims countries had frontiers with muslim countries and there was no problem, But the west has destroyd africa, even south america partially and now it s us
ameenkewell 5 months ago
Robert Spencer really did a good job!
sgal88 5 months ago
if this is what Allah say why are there no religion leaders trying to stop those muslims who believe in waging war agents Christains,in my country they even have name they call we christains and wish to kill all of us,our country is big with different culture i don no how they can ever do that and christains believe in forgiveness and never fight back
florence30400 5 months ago
our people in the northern part of Nigeria are dying in the heads of Muslims all in the name of Islam,what is all this religion matter allabout ,why can't the Muslims wait for God to judge .as big as Nigeria they want us to practice Islamic law .they even say Allahuwakbar when they are about to kill ,going to kill ppl when they are sleepin in their house,
florence30400 5 months ago
Id love to see Robert debate Shabir Ally...
sphinxak 6 months ago 6
It is interesting to note that there is not one modern man or woman of learning, wit or intelligence who quotes the koran or mohammed.
The world has come to know the real islam - not through good deeds, great words of inspiration or peace, but through violence, terrorism, sexism, homophobia, delusion, lies and death.
Let no one be surprised, because fundamentally, this is the true nature of both mohammed and islam which is clearly evident in the koran.
Islam is just a childish F-ALLAH-CY!
TheProphetMo 6 months ago 12
@TheProphetMo The world has leaned to know nothing.
786swe 5 months ago
@TheProphetMo - spot on - Islam is so childish and makes it's adherence childish - there are instructions on what to eat, how to dress, which foot to put forward first when entering the loo, etc. But worse of all it is a "religion" which will not allow questioning of any kind - like a dad who won't allow the kids to ask questions and punishes them terribly if they do. - Blessings - Rene
mammyoriordan 4 months ago 15
It would be very interesting to watch moustafa zayed or other so called scholars debate anjem choudry on these issues. At least anjem is not a deceitful liar.
harryhippo22 6 months ago
@harryhippo22 Anjem belongs to Salafi Islam which is a very extreme orthodox sect according to my knowledge. Anjem will consider Zayed a heretic and will not agree with him on most issues. The Egyptian Azhar approach to Islam is very different from that of the Saudis.
homeros8000 6 months ago
I believe Islam just like any other cultural heritage is double sided. It depends on the believer which side he's willing to take. The same thing applies to Christianity and Judaism. If a person is evil he/she can conform the text to their evil, while a good person can follow the good examples and find spiritual peace. But the point is, Muhammad was a very good person if we take his cultural background, his tolerance and moral integrity were exemplary for the 7th century.
homeros8000 6 months ago
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Read the Koran sometime. It's about the length of the New Testament. It's your freedom, too.
SheikhTaqiyyameister 6 months ago
People like Robert Spencer are the source of evil. He is basically trying to change the entire context of something which he was never brought up in and by reading books, not forgetting that he doesn't even understand the base of all of it. Hence he is all over the place, and pretty devil like attitude, attack attack attack with all non-sense. Spencer has found a nice way of making money by writing all crap
msikande 6 months ago
@msikande Er, did you actually watch the debate?
mrarcher857 6 months ago
@msikande
No my dear lost friend the only evil here is muhammad and his equal evil ill-allah, and yes Robert is all over blowing up things, and killing ppl in the course of ill-allah, you ppl should really educate yourselves before you open your ignorant mouth
hannahr77 6 months ago
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“When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.” Sura 9:5.
Yes, it does actually say that. The Koran is the highest authority in Islam.
SheikhTaqiyyameister 6 months ago
@hannahr77 The life after Your death & My death will decide whose right and whose wrong, hence if you're not willing to accept Islam as a religion then at least learn to take the names associated with the Religion with some respect. & Muslims know everything regarding Judaism & Christianity as we believe in all of that we believe in the Old testament and the gospel, we believe in Jesus Christ hence go & educate YOURSELF & open your books rather than surfing on Youtube all day like a lowlife
msikande 5 months ago
@msikande
no your so wrong muslims do not know anything abt Judaism or Christianity not even their own religion, you say muslims believe in all the prophets from the O.T, so now tell me abt Isaiah and what did he have to say abt islam same with Jeremiah, my dear lost friend muhammad/ill-allah lied and the Jews and Christians died simple as that
hannahr77 5 months ago
@hannahr77 I am a Muslim & I know about my religion and about your religion more than any of you so called religious debaters. Isaiah was a prophet of Islam just like Jeremiah. & cut your crap by calling me Lost. Jews are the cursed ones, Christians are the strayed ones, hence Allah (The One & one your god & my god) sent Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as a mercy to man kind. Now instead of talking about the past prophets go and do some research about Prophet Muhammad and the Islamic ways.
msikande 5 months ago
@msikande
so where can I find Isaiah and Jeremiah in your fake cursed book the quran? muhammad was a and still a curse to mankind, so now tell me what do you know abt my religion, anything?
hannahr77 5 months ago
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@msikande 'Spencer has found a nice way of making money by writing all crap' based on reality. Muslims don't like that.
SheikhTaqiyyameister 6 months ago
Right from start,Mr Robert Spencer couldn't quote anything which is said by Prophet Muhammad himself, all he does is quotations from commentaries of other scholars.Even here one cannot trust him to be truthful to the quote,because even when he quotes the suras of Quran he deliberatly omits sentences ,so how can one belive Mr.Spencer is not doing the same with these commentaries..
Just watch at 11.00 minutes.. how .Robert spencer laughs in shame!!!!
TheMythBreaker 6 months ago
@TheMythBreaker - No love - he laughs at that pathetic liar opposite him. I wish you would wake up and smell the deceit.
harryhippo22 6 months ago
thumbs up 2 mustafa,good job,robert spenser couldnt quote nothin from the prophet
exposemyfoes 7 months ago
robert kicked ass
comets00 7 months ago
Robert is very logical.
MadharchodMuhammad 7 months ago 2
MOHAMMEDANISM FAILS.
crusaderforever 7 months ago
Robert is awesome in this debate.
jerrytatum 7 months ago
Mohammad is no prophet. His actions base on the quran and hadith have almost totally no semblance whatsoever to divinity. mohammad had killed, plundered and had sex with multiple wives, these cannot be the doing of a divine man!
In the Srimad Bhagavatam 3.25, Lord Krishna said: “The symptoms of a sadhu are that he is tolerant, merciful and friendly to all living entities. He has no enemies, he is peaceful, he abides by the scriptures, and all his characteristics are sublime.”
Sadhu=Divine man.
MrTwista8819 7 months ago
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It is written in the quran that mohammed 's mother so fat when she step on the scale it says, "No live stock please."
retardomohammed 7 months ago
Spencer cannot possibly be defeated in a debate re islam and the false prophet mohammed. He consistently pounds his opponents into submission with his mental prowess. So glad he's on the side of good, fighting the evil that is Islam. God Bless Spencer, and thanks for your works... you're truly a soldier of God.
YouCruising 7 months ago
Spencer exposeD this hypocrite IMAM
newtochrist 8 months ago
just to prove one guy right even today muslisms endrose child marriage
dubi186 8 months ago
Mustafa is not even sure about his own camp. He points towards the inconsistant mind of madudi of pakistan and not only that he tries to divert the thing by saying that it is suni or shia or other and not islamic. give me a break. try to have agreement on what sharia you want in the world and talk of implementing it in Europe or USA will come later
dubi186 8 months ago
One really has to question the sincerity of debates such as these. There are never any winners. Muslims never bombard Christians or Jews or Hindus with questions to prove their religion in this way. I as a muslim believe the Islamic Scholar made as good a defense as could have been made. But certainly you cannot expect a life long anti-muslim Robert Spencer to be swayed by that.
deadpinkowl 8 months ago
@deadpinkowl If you think there is no benefit to having an honest and open debate, then we should never discuss anything!
Muslims never bombard Christians or Jews with questions? Yeah, they just commit acts of genocide in Sudan and Saudi Arabia.
Spencer wasn't swayed because it's bullshit. The Koran clearly says when you encounter an unbeliever you have 3 options. Convert, Tax, or Kill. Now, are you going to deny these passages exists or refute it?
rockos414 8 months ago
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icriosphinx 8 months ago
I dont understand thé western ppl r so afraid Of muslim radical or terroriste. Westerner hd conquered almost half Of this earth. Thé uneducated terroriste fém. Afghanistan made Your shaken?
animeXhero 8 months ago
ALLAHUAKABRR
SalamToMohammed 9 months ago
the muslim guy is like a child. Give him some sweats and send him home.
FeignofCordor 9 months ago
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@FeignofCordor 'the muslim guy is like a child. Give him some sweats and send him home.'
So he can get 200 of his friends and come back, burn your house down, rape your wife, kidnap your daughters, and kill your brothers and your dogs. You'll be paying some new taxes.
Now that's planning ahead.
SheikhTaqiyyameister 6 months ago
non-Muslims shouldn't have to pay anything! It like trying to defend a men that beats his wife with a 20 inch stick by saying he actually used a 15 inch one. They are both still bad!!
44warjunkie 10 months ago
full of bull
silvaadman 10 months ago
As usual Robert Spencer is the one making sense.
billyslo87 10 months ago 2
Only religion which believes scriptures of every religion is Islam-Mustafa-
Do Muslims believe in Buddhists scriptures? As far as I know Buddha denied the creationism.Ooooooo what are you talking about Musafa?
aaaaayyo 10 months ago
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In the beautiful garden of wisdom, Islam is nothing but a deadly, invasive weed.
Rather than offering up ten thousand prayers for peace and harmony in the world, it would be better simply to outlaw the one Satanic evil of Islam.
Come my non muslim brother and sisters, let us gather the rocks of truth, logic and reason - for with them as our ammunition, together we can stone the illegitimate bastard of islam to death.
TheProphetMo 10 months ago 8
@hexcane Secular liberals condone torture of Muslims, yesterday same people enslaved blacks, and before that eliminated the red indians, tollerant my ass
frozenimran 11 months ago
@hexcane Its secular fascists who have caused world wide poverty today thx the corrupt capitalism model, secularist and communist who have killed more human beings in the last 200 years then all others in the last millenniums, its you bastards who colonized India, middle east, Africa, established 55 secular dictators robed looted then ask us to go back to our broken homes you fuckin pig. Go fuck your dad and crawl back up your mamas whore vagina whiny bitch.
frozenimran 11 months ago
@hexcane Muslims believe those who fear God are superior to those who dont. Som1 who holds himself accountable at all times in fear of the consequences of the next life is seen as superior. THe Prophet did say no one is superior in terms of race but are superior in terms of TAQWA- piety fear of God.
Secular liberals believe they too are superior to religous folk both Christian and Muslim, all people have a form of social hierarchy you, its a form of survival
frozenimran 11 months ago
@hexcane You never defined what a rational human being is. If you mean by rational an atheist then I ask you where does an Atheist derive his principles and values from. Atheism believes in no good or evil no right or wrong, right or wrong is defined by where and when your born. If your born in Nazi Germany or Stalins russia its okay to kill 6 million Jews or 40 million Christians because Atheism values change and atheism has no set principles, survival of the fittest mentality
frozenimran 11 months ago
I dont worship Mary or priests get that through your rhick skull my freind. You always this angry? I worship Jesus,Issa because he is G-d the Son, three persons one G-d....bible teaches that and the Bible came before the Quran and it's superior to it sorry. Muslims use and need the Bible, Christians don't need the Quran.
Gideon6640man 11 months ago
So were is the original Torah and the original Injeel? Did Allah loose his books?
Aydinn 11 months ago
We have to understand that muslims tell their followers one thing and non-muslims another for PC and propaganda purposes. So this muslims apologist is either naive or he is using Taqiyya or Kitman .i.e lying to to non-mulsims which is called for in the Quran(Surah 3:28 & 16:106). Yes I have the Quran and Hadith with me so please don't tell me what it says ok?
Gideon6640man 11 months ago
@Gideon6640man
Yo just be 1 kpop wankin 4 inch pixie stix. Da pope <3 lil boyz.
bigblackdyx 11 months ago
@bigblackdyx Not even close you stupid moolinyan. I do have the advantage of at least knowing who my father is. "Da pope" "Wankin"hmmm I bet your some some bluegum fuck who left the motherland and landed in England. maybe? Look asshole, find Dr. Mbogo to give you something for the touch of Ebolad you must have.Try making some sensenest time, ok? Adios form L.A.
Gideon6640man 11 months ago