FYI as she stated previously she did not specify Asians but being pro diversity in general. Due to misquoting and misleading info on what she said she can later on sue you for slander if this video hurts her in the future in terms of lifestyle employment etc. She can get compensation from you. No-one on the internet is truly anonymous. Plus Nazi video's and hats are not cool.
@suilverfish3154 Oh no stop with your evil libel please! I heard exactly what she said and as previously stated it's a stupid idea because people can get any job they want in here so long as they are qualified. There is already a variety of cultures on Australian T.V. If anything it's white people with dissenting opinions that she is opposed to. For the record if you watched that video and didn't realize that it was a joke you are as stupid as the person it was directed at.
@SimmonS2679 to be apart of a segment of a show you have to be asked, not apply. She wasn't talking about employment but visual representation and how people are fearing nothing. The status she read on FB is not a rare opinion hence her video has been trolled by neo-nazi's. Your video "goth club" where you heil hitler is no joke
Summary:1. I was saying I believe we should have more diversity in the media was not specifying Asians at all 2. The fb comment; I have heard similar comments all through this year hence the video 3. There are always going to be more/less pressing issues in the world 4. Just because we have a Asian senator (penny wong) doesnt mean we have a diverse media - there are other ppl in Aust then Asians and Caucasians 5. IR and our econ would suffer if "White Aust" policy returns.Bye and happy New yrs
@kimberleyseetoes Whatever, you've made the same point so many times that all these comments have become superfluous. And if anything I should be complaining about the media, I hate the lack of representation for the rights of my people on it. Anti white sentiment prevails all the time in western media, like that Muslim guy who likened rape victims to uncovered meat and who claimed white people don't have a culture.
We hear all the time about how great multiculturalism is but if you want to say white people have a unique and valuable culture it's racist. It takes a thousand fold more courage for a white person to stand up for our rights so much that such people get put in prison merely for speaking words. This is why your notion of some sort of 'white's only' sentiment in the media is laughable to me. The media promotes European genocide.
@SimmonS2679 No, not saying people should hire based on race for talk/opinion shows but if a program like TT chooses to do a segment a targeting minority group they should have a balance of people that are pro or con and the reflection at end of each segment should be objective (that's 101 journalism). It is good practice to have someone from that minority group to appear in the segment. For talk/ panel shows it is a pro to have a panel of ppl with different opinions backgrounds and experiences-
@SimmonS2679 no, actually you stated in your last reply to what I said about language skills when it preferable was; "(But that is racial discrimination) What I meant here was it would mean hiring people on the basis of race." Now your doing a complete 180. Actually you mentioned it in your video, I think. Thats not what I'm saying, I'm saying with affair/ opinion shows like TT and ACA those shows claim to be the "voice of the people/ nation" but they arent.
@SimmonS2679 no she's not because real estate is protected under the anti-discrimination laws. This has been seen in case that happened a couple of years ago with people refusing to sell their house to an aboriginal woman. this was taken to court and the woman won. I was referring to Australian Affair/ Opinion shows.
@SimmonS2679 BTW you just"@" yourself. Nope, it is based qualification. Lets just say it was to work in a store where the majority of people in the area spoke Russian a employer would most likely choose someone who speaks Russian than someone who doesn't. That's not racial discrimination at all - But yes sometimes racial discrimination in the work place can occur and it is against the law. But you can't just say all Asian stores RACIALLY discriminate when hiring.
@kimberleyseetoes It's not a motto it's a well known saying. Actually if you never studied geometry and opened a geo text book and looked at it, it would look complex and i bet you a few people would say "wow that's hard don't want to ever touch that". And if people around them cont. talking about how hard, crap, pointless and humiliating doing geo is then yes, the person who has limited experience with geo may develop a fear of it without even trying it.
@kimberleyseetoes It's a crap saying/expression/motto or whatever you want to call it because it flies in the face of common sense. I don't fear something because I don't understand it, I just don't understand it simple as that. And I don't fear somebody I don't know, I just don't know them. Just because some butt hurt fag thinking he's some great philosopher said that however many decades ago and made other idiots believe it's true doesn't mean it is so.
@SimmonS2679 I have feeling this conversation is going down hill. I was answering all the questions and comments you made on my video and your cessation to question some of my answers, gave me the impression that you have accepted my answers to a satisfactory response. Now we are just bickering over a quote by Leo Buscaglia. Fear doesnt necessarily mean scream and run, dictionarycom; it is concern or anxiety if you weren't concerned about the views I have you wouldn't have made a VR.
@kimberleyseetoes I never even said any stores racially discriminate when hiring. I don't even care because I would not even want to work for any Asian business. And one other thing is you say that you want to see more varied oppinions but when a white person speaks there's you get all up in arms and say that the hosting staff of T.V. shows needs to be refurbished. If you feel so strongly make your own diversity T.V. show.
@SimmonS2679 When it comes to shows that are meant to be "the voice of the nation" <-- the tagline for TT and ACA has a similar one, then the claims should be met with correct representation because we are a diverse country, we have diverse opinions. Never said I had anything against Caucasians were just stating the lesser known pros of migration and diversity. Well I don't have the means to do so - hence I use youtube as my means to communicate.
And to specify again I never specifically said more "Asians" on tv I said more diversity. The example I gave at the end had Caucasians, Asian, Blacks all on the same talk show. And before you say "oh you want all ethnicities on all shows", no I just want more diversity in opinions and imagery in media (esp. opinion shows) in general, examples of certain overrepresented opinions and images were given in the video. I hate how you said I specified Asians - Cause I didn't I said more diversity!
I want to accept the video as a VR under my Racism video not on "My tram experience video" because you are well spoken and this video has no relevance to "My tram experience", the reason I blocked comments from the Racism video was due to OBSESSIVE trolling coming from a "white nationalist" website. I still stand on my beliefs As I stated below I think you may have overlooked some things.
When you were talking about discrimination against cauasians in hiring for chinese stores, speaking Chinese may be preferred. I work in retail and speaking English is preferred. I have seen non-asian working in Asian stores. Majority of chinese people don't live in China town, it tends to only take up 2 streets, and not only Asians eat Asian food - if you haven't tried foreign cuisines then you really are missing out - had Greek the other night was AMAZING
@kimberleyseetoes Well there you have it. Racial discrimination isn't that bad in Australia it's not something of importance. That just reinforces my point even more that we have equal opportunity at gaining jobs, homes and whatever else. Personally I don't think that it matters if all the hosts on certain shows are white and on other shows there is a mixture, it's just the status quo.
@SimmonS2679 Doesn't mean it doesn't exist and we should sweep it under the rug. As I stated in my video I think those opinions such as "bring back the white Aust. Policy" and "anti-multiculturalism" remarks are over represented in the media. We need broader variety of imagery and opinions - because we fear who/ what we don't know. Ie. If you have limited experience with someone who was Z and u hear bad things about people that are Z then you would assume/ stereotype all Z are bad people
@kimberleyseetoes And what is with you and that expression? It's stupid. It's like saying I don't understand certain aspects of geometry so as such I should fear it. Or I fear the person who is walking towards me down the street because I don't know him. You need a better motto.
I said we should have a more diverse media. Never said Asians in particular. You're very well spoken. Like I said - there is a lack of diversity not just in imagery but in opinions in the media (examples were shown) The fb status was about stopping people purely due to ethnicity to come to Australia- That is really offensive.
@kimberleyseetoes Well you get all kinds of varieties of people, so you should really expect to hear/read things like that. Some Asian countries have policies that restrict citizenship to foreigners, so you must also find this offensive then? And it's not just a face book comment. It's actual government legislation.
@SimmonS2679 Reading the same comment copy and pasted is quite annoying. I don't think restriction is unnecessary, but having a "white Australia" policy is. And I would be equally offended if another country did something similar like have "Asian Only" policy. Because its pure discrimination based on ethnic/ racial background. It WAS govt legalisation - read the status she states that she wish the policy wasn't dumped and indicates that she wants it back.
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FYI as she stated previously she did not specify Asians but being pro diversity in general. Due to misquoting and misleading info on what she said she can later on sue you for slander if this video hurts her in the future in terms of lifestyle employment etc. She can get compensation from you. No-one on the internet is truly anonymous. Plus Nazi video's and hats are not cool.
suilverfish3154 1 month ago
That is not what she said at all!!! To put things in perspective this man made a video called goth club where he states that he praises hitler.
suilverfish3154 1 month ago
@suilverfish3154 Oh no stop with your evil libel please! I heard exactly what she said and as previously stated it's a stupid idea because people can get any job they want in here so long as they are qualified. There is already a variety of cultures on Australian T.V. If anything it's white people with dissenting opinions that she is opposed to. For the record if you watched that video and didn't realize that it was a joke you are as stupid as the person it was directed at.
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@SimmonS2679 to be apart of a segment of a show you have to be asked, not apply. She wasn't talking about employment but visual representation and how people are fearing nothing. The status she read on FB is not a rare opinion hence her video has been trolled by neo-nazi's. Your video "goth club" where you heil hitler is no joke
suilverfish3154 1 month ago
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Summary:1. I was saying I believe we should have more diversity in the media was not specifying Asians at all 2. The fb comment; I have heard similar comments all through this year hence the video 3. There are always going to be more/less pressing issues in the world 4. Just because we have a Asian senator (penny wong) doesnt mean we have a diverse media - there are other ppl in Aust then Asians and Caucasians 5. IR and our econ would suffer if "White Aust" policy returns.Bye and happy New yrs
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago 2
@kimberleyseetoes Whatever, you've made the same point so many times that all these comments have become superfluous. And if anything I should be complaining about the media, I hate the lack of representation for the rights of my people on it. Anti white sentiment prevails all the time in western media, like that Muslim guy who likened rape victims to uncovered meat and who claimed white people don't have a culture.
SimmonS2679 1 month ago
We hear all the time about how great multiculturalism is but if you want to say white people have a unique and valuable culture it's racist. It takes a thousand fold more courage for a white person to stand up for our rights so much that such people get put in prison merely for speaking words. This is why your notion of some sort of 'white's only' sentiment in the media is laughable to me. The media promotes European genocide.
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@SimmonS2679 No, not saying people should hire based on race for talk/opinion shows but if a program like TT chooses to do a segment a targeting minority group they should have a balance of people that are pro or con and the reflection at end of each segment should be objective (that's 101 journalism). It is good practice to have someone from that minority group to appear in the segment. For talk/ panel shows it is a pro to have a panel of ppl with different opinions backgrounds and experiences-
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
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@SimmonS2679 no, actually you stated in your last reply to what I said about language skills when it preferable was; "(But that is racial discrimination) What I meant here was it would mean hiring people on the basis of race." Now your doing a complete 180. Actually you mentioned it in your video, I think. Thats not what I'm saying, I'm saying with affair/ opinion shows like TT and ACA those shows claim to be the "voice of the people/ nation" but they arent.
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@SimmonS2679 no she's not because real estate is protected under the anti-discrimination laws. This has been seen in case that happened a couple of years ago with people refusing to sell their house to an aboriginal woman. this was taken to court and the woman won. I was referring to Australian Affair/ Opinion shows.
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
@SimmonS2679 BTW you just"@" yourself. Nope, it is based qualification. Lets just say it was to work in a store where the majority of people in the area spoke Russian a employer would most likely choose someone who speaks Russian than someone who doesn't. That's not racial discrimination at all - But yes sometimes racial discrimination in the work place can occur and it is against the law. But you can't just say all Asian stores RACIALLY discriminate when hiring.
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
@kimberleyseetoes It's not a motto it's a well known saying. Actually if you never studied geometry and opened a geo text book and looked at it, it would look complex and i bet you a few people would say "wow that's hard don't want to ever touch that". And if people around them cont. talking about how hard, crap, pointless and humiliating doing geo is then yes, the person who has limited experience with geo may develop a fear of it without even trying it.
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
@kimberleyseetoes It's a crap saying/expression/motto or whatever you want to call it because it flies in the face of common sense. I don't fear something because I don't understand it, I just don't understand it simple as that. And I don't fear somebody I don't know, I just don't know them. Just because some butt hurt fag thinking he's some great philosopher said that however many decades ago and made other idiots believe it's true doesn't mean it is so.
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@SimmonS2679 I have feeling this conversation is going down hill. I was answering all the questions and comments you made on my video and your cessation to question some of my answers, gave me the impression that you have accepted my answers to a satisfactory response. Now we are just bickering over a quote by Leo Buscaglia. Fear doesnt necessarily mean scream and run, dictionarycom; it is concern or anxiety if you weren't concerned about the views I have you wouldn't have made a VR.
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
@kimberleyseetoes I never even said any stores racially discriminate when hiring. I don't even care because I would not even want to work for any Asian business. And one other thing is you say that you want to see more varied oppinions but when a white person speaks there's you get all up in arms and say that the hosting staff of T.V. shows needs to be refurbished. If you feel so strongly make your own diversity T.V. show.
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@SimmonS2679 When it comes to shows that are meant to be "the voice of the nation" <-- the tagline for TT and ACA has a similar one, then the claims should be met with correct representation because we are a diverse country, we have diverse opinions. Never said I had anything against Caucasians were just stating the lesser known pros of migration and diversity. Well I don't have the means to do so - hence I use youtube as my means to communicate.
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
And to specify again I never specifically said more "Asians" on tv I said more diversity. The example I gave at the end had Caucasians, Asian, Blacks all on the same talk show. And before you say "oh you want all ethnicities on all shows", no I just want more diversity in opinions and imagery in media (esp. opinion shows) in general, examples of certain overrepresented opinions and images were given in the video. I hate how you said I specified Asians - Cause I didn't I said more diversity!
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I want to accept the video as a VR under my Racism video not on "My tram experience video" because you are well spoken and this video has no relevance to "My tram experience", the reason I blocked comments from the Racism video was due to OBSESSIVE trolling coming from a "white nationalist" website. I still stand on my beliefs As I stated below I think you may have overlooked some things.
kimberleyseetoes 2 months ago
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When you were talking about discrimination against cauasians in hiring for chinese stores, speaking Chinese may be preferred. I work in retail and speaking English is preferred. I have seen non-asian working in Asian stores. Majority of chinese people don't live in China town, it tends to only take up 2 streets, and not only Asians eat Asian food - if you haven't tried foreign cuisines then you really are missing out - had Greek the other night was AMAZING
kimberleyseetoes 2 months ago
@kimberleyseetoes Well there you have it. Racial discrimination isn't that bad in Australia it's not something of importance. That just reinforces my point even more that we have equal opportunity at gaining jobs, homes and whatever else. Personally I don't think that it matters if all the hosts on certain shows are white and on other shows there is a mixture, it's just the status quo.
SimmonS2679 2 months ago
@SimmonS2679 Doesn't mean it doesn't exist and we should sweep it under the rug. As I stated in my video I think those opinions such as "bring back the white Aust. Policy" and "anti-multiculturalism" remarks are over represented in the media. We need broader variety of imagery and opinions - because we fear who/ what we don't know. Ie. If you have limited experience with someone who was Z and u hear bad things about people that are Z then you would assume/ stereotype all Z are bad people
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
@kimberleyseetoes And what is with you and that expression? It's stupid. It's like saying I don't understand certain aspects of geometry so as such I should fear it. Or I fear the person who is walking towards me down the street because I don't know him. You need a better motto.
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kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
I said we should have a more diverse media. Never said Asians in particular. You're very well spoken. Like I said - there is a lack of diversity not just in imagery but in opinions in the media (examples were shown) The fb status was about stopping people purely due to ethnicity to come to Australia- That is really offensive.
kimberleyseetoes 2 months ago
@kimberleyseetoes Well you get all kinds of varieties of people, so you should really expect to hear/read things like that. Some Asian countries have policies that restrict citizenship to foreigners, so you must also find this offensive then? And it's not just a face book comment. It's actual government legislation.
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@SimmonS2679 Reading the same comment copy and pasted is quite annoying. I don't think restriction is unnecessary, but having a "white Australia" policy is. And I would be equally offended if another country did something similar like have "Asian Only" policy. Because its pure discrimination based on ethnic/ racial background. It WAS govt legalisation - read the status she states that she wish the policy wasn't dumped and indicates that she wants it back.
kimberleyseetoes 1 month ago
Prepare for the "YOU BE RACISTS" "YOU BE BIGOT" "Racist, supremacist, nazi" comments coming your way... :|
EvilKorbinDallas 2 months ago
well said!
deoderantcan1 2 months ago