...It's just a static prop to give the illusion of the array bouncing off the planes..
The only "holy SHIT!" demo was the raytraced bathroom. No WAY was that rendered in realtime, not in the 80's on a desktop system—even in low-rez and even on an Amiga.
If it wasn't realtime, then it's nice that an introverted nerd boy can program other people's apps to do construct a toilet. But even a 'tard can throw up a slideshow of prerendered frames...
Thanks for sharing! Love the Amiga ! Still have my A4000 040/25 MHz w/ Emplant Pro board/ Retina Z3 /4 MB Video Card. Reading Steve Jobs autobio book - too bad we did not have someone like Steve pushing the Ami because internally it was a way better machine than the original Macintosh.
@diverhose thank GOD we did not have that guy anywhere NEAR the Amiga.. else it would of been a disaster. Anyone who opened to to hack it would have their Amiga bricked remotely and all Amiga software would only be available from one place, the Amiga store.. and you'd only be allowed to install the software THEY let you install. As it is I have my A500 here and I can put what i want on it and do what i want with it.
@mmonicque well we have the hardware to do even better things .. but it is the old generation of programmers that disappeared ...
the hardware and audio chips and 3d chips today are very powerfull .. but there are no more Talented people like in the 80's and 90's u have to admit this.
@intrepidis: easy really - vertical stripes are used say colours 1-8 combine this with horizontal colour splits to contruct the letters in the scroller. A set of pre worked 'twisted' graphics are used and selected with a sinus curve to give it the twist effect. I would say it's in 32 colour mode using 16 colours for the background picture leaving enough colours for the vertical scroll. Well this is how I would do it anyway :)
Pure brilliance! The way the music and video sync is impeccable, probably only equalled by Kefrens 'Desert Dream'. I remember playing this on my Amiga and being blown away by the pure genius of this whole demo. Loved it, still love it!!
I think Amiga was just too far ahead of it's time to have succeeded, I mean, why did it fail? Was it a lot more expensive than IBM? They couldn't parlay the success of the C64 to the Amiga? That seems hard to believe, based on Commodore's penchant for aggressive pricing and marketing.
Despite all of this advanced hardware and unparalleled talent, Microsoft and PC clones won, and today we're all running some form of Windows. Sad, ainnit.
Jesper wrote create tunes back then, and always had a great ear for the right sound in the right place - but this tune is a tribute to David Whitaker, and also to Mike Oldfield for the Tubular rift.
Yeah, I remember watching a video of Jay Miner having a speech, trying to explain to some guy why a full D/A converter like Paula is better than chips that could only synthesize waveforms. He asked if the other chips could sound like a guitar, the guy responded "well, they can sound like a piano". Poor guy... :)
@jahoodunrama That sounds about right. DW composes the tune that is used in C64 Panther and the tune in this demo is, well, let's call it an homage to DW.
This is THE demo I remember when I think of the Amiga demo scene. The music is awesome and the innovative effects are all put together perfectly, it is very innovative.
Remeber DOS Pcs/Macs with the text only in B&W! Haha
lets not get into 3D and perfectly times/synced Audio to Video...........something that today with all the MegaTons of speed/memory/storage is not accomplished.
Take this Youtube for instance. Compressed so degraded quality AND it still takes more space than the actual demo did! And timing is off on many videos.Even ones on my local drive will skip frames/lose sync.
@surfitlive Yes you are right.Amiga was the most powerfull computer in those years but, I am a musician and I like to give my opinion about its audio abilities.That s all
Sorry for riffing on you! I re-read what U wrote and cant figure out why I responded 2 U like that. I must have read too many negative comments prior, working me up to 'Over react'!!!!!
@hankillo1 Well you got to give the oldschool a little credit... There was a reasonable level of sophisticated stuff going on back in the day. How do you think how we got to where we are now?
OS4 isn't made by Amiga and doesn't run on any Amiga. It's got no relationship to the Amiga other than Hyperion licensed the name. Don't make a $1200 mistake buying overpriced, slow, unreliable, outdated, system-on-a-chip hardware like the SAM (also not made by Amiga).
It doesn't change the fact that AmigaOS 4 gives you the exact same feeling than with the old AmigaOS. Go and test it for yourself on an Amiga/Sam computer near you.
The most nonsensical statement I have read so far here. I was there when 3.9 was being released, and the first thing I did was to install it on my A1200...
Amiga demo's were obviousely to show off the capabilities of the hardware and the programmer, graphics artist and musician, I used to love some of the demo's and intro's and stuff you got with cracked amiga games, the pc demo scene is much better in terms of wow factor but I do miss the amiga days for sure, but hey pc demo's now are nothing short of awsome
was on the party that year , this was just amazing , as the guy below me sayd , fat effect after another. to bad that shit odessey was in the same comp( not that odessey was bad , but it was a frigging 5 disk anim ) :(
imo this was the best of the best on the amiga demo scene, nothing touched it. You're just finished going "shit look at that!" and it rocks on into another amazing routine, and then another, all accompanied by superb dark music by Jesper Kyd. Notice the credits...nearly every routine done by or contributed to by "The Spy" - That guy was serious and knew how to code that hardware! Would love to know what the team that worked on this are doing now? Thanks for the memories :-)
the best example how u can put quality programming on minimal space. and all based on amazing designed hardware! .... i want the good old times back. *sigh ...when we would have today the hardware more expansive, we would see much better programming work. a good example are gaming - consoles. its amazing what the programmers made for games, based on a p3 and geforce3 on the xbox1.... but just my thinking.
yeah, 17 years I've probably made about 20 people watch this back in the day all the time watching it with them and observing their reactions. amazing :)
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FayeKane 2 days ago
Interesting. And BTW, I used to sell Amigas.
This is real clever use of sprites, palette-cycling, and polygon morphing. I take my hat off for the programmers. But the question is:
► Was all of this generated in realtime?
The polygon stuff, yeah. It's just permuting the parameters of two equations and plotting them on top of each other.
And the rotating array of spheres was kinda cool, but far less so if you take away the tilted split-checkerboard background...
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FayeKane 2 days ago
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...It's just a static prop to give the illusion of the array bouncing off the planes..
The only "holy SHIT!" demo was the raytraced bathroom. No WAY was that rendered in realtime, not in the 80's on a desktop system—even in low-rez and even on an Amiga.
If it wasn't realtime, then it's nice that an introverted nerd boy can program other people's apps to do construct a toilet. But even a 'tard can throw up a slideshow of prerendered frames...
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FayeKane 2 days ago
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...and any old 286 could generate the CGI for Star Wars one frame at a time if you put in a 16M EMS board then let it sit and think long enough.
If it WAS realtime, then I'll take my hat off for the programmer — AND my clothes.
-- faye kane homeless brain
Autistic math/physics chick living naked in a cave in the woods hacked into the pwr grid.
Yes really. tiny url dot com slash kanecave
FayeKane 2 days ago
Only on the Amiga!!!
MikeKdy 1 week ago
nice effects !
wlodi5 2 weeks ago
Amiga Mist Die!
)))
Saymannsk 1 month ago
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Saymannsk 1 month ago
Thanks for sharing! Love the Amiga ! Still have my A4000 040/25 MHz w/ Emplant Pro board/ Retina Z3 /4 MB Video Card. Reading Steve Jobs autobio book - too bad we did not have someone like Steve pushing the Ami because internally it was a way better machine than the original Macintosh.
diverhose 1 month ago
@diverhose thank GOD we did not have that guy anywhere NEAR the Amiga.. else it would of been a disaster. Anyone who opened to to hack it would have their Amiga bricked remotely and all Amiga software would only be available from one place, the Amiga store.. and you'd only be allowed to install the software THEY let you install. As it is I have my A500 here and I can put what i want on it and do what i want with it.
ObsoleteAcey 2 weeks ago
Fuckin awesome! Best demo music I have ever heard in my life. Jesper Kyd rulez!
bozdoganli666 1 month ago
best 2d amiga demo by far. very original effects done in a really clever way, accompanied by one of the best demo soundtracks ever
rvounik 2 months ago
THE BEST AMIGA DEMO EVER MADE
xsanchezz 2 months ago
Does anyone have the image? Pouet.net has a 404
TheSwanies 4 months ago
Jesper Kyd was born with some serious Rob Hubbard DNA.
montpenier 5 months ago
That was when I became a fan a Jesper Kyd. :-)) (And the Amiga of course. :-))
lurian8 6 months ago
4 people are bitter ST trolls
MrFlibble2011 6 months ago 2
@MrFlibble2011
Potato
MikestaTMan 6 months ago
I take it that this was the prequal to the Sega Genesis version of "Hardwired."
philiptwood 7 months ago
8-bit sampled sound with analog filters.
douro20 7 months ago
And to think 20 years later these same guys release BattleField 3.
DrTopaz 7 months ago
I miss that perfect scrolling the most... die PC shite die!!!
RabidRat88 7 months ago
Imagine if Amiga didn't go bankrupt, they would of made a 3D computer without glasses years before anyone would for cheap.
mmonicque 9 months ago
@mmonicque well we have the hardware to do even better things .. but it is the old generation of programmers that disappeared ...
the hardware and audio chips and 3d chips today are very powerfull .. but there are no more Talented people like in the 80's and 90's u have to admit this.
snaforfun 9 months ago
@snaforfun Yeah your right, programmers now don’t seem to take the time to put detail into a game.
mmonicque 9 months ago
@mmonicque That would be the job of the artists.
singularity3 8 months ago
@intrepidis: easy really - vertical stripes are used say colours 1-8 combine this with horizontal colour splits to contruct the letters in the scroller. A set of pre worked 'twisted' graphics are used and selected with a sinus curve to give it the twist effect. I would say it's in 32 colour mode using 16 colours for the background picture leaving enough colours for the vertical scroll. Well this is how I would do it anyway :)
ObVReboot 9 months ago
I remember Amiga... I owned All the models, from A1000 to A4000T...
even the Amiga CD32
I made some awesome music and demos on it!
I'd wish Amiga, Would be back! I miss you Amiga!!!! :-)
jammingcats 10 months ago
@jammingcats
check commodoreusa(dot)net
schnudderi 8 months ago
Was the days that 880kb of space were enough !!! o/
Ulfdewyn 10 months ago 3
Ho man, these guys were the masters. How did they do that twisty verticle scrolly?
intrepidis11 11 months ago
EP!C
mayhemtv 1 year ago 8
amiga is the best
TurboSoldat 1 year ago 6
3 people click "wrong" button because they can't open this great demo without BLUESCREEN :P
Robthe555 1 year ago 4
Ive owned every computer since the zx80 days.
And the AMIGA is without doubt the best machine ive ever owned.
The whole AMIGA "scene" was a magical time - The c64 scene wasnt far behind tho.
What a machine !
mulder3035 1 year ago 4
The best Amiga demo ever made.
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steffenkarstoft 1 year ago
Amazing!!!
steffenkarstoft 1 year ago
Pure brilliance! The way the music and video sync is impeccable, probably only equalled by Kefrens 'Desert Dream'. I remember playing this on my Amiga and being blown away by the pure genius of this whole demo. Loved it, still love it!!
HoldontightmediaGB 1 year ago 4
Yes the Amiga was a great machine, but the most powerful machine was the Archimedes by Acorn (born in 1987)
Best coders were on the Amiga, no doubt.
Archimedes75009 1 year ago
the coders were stunning in creating these effects
patrutiss 1 year ago
WOOOW!!! STUNNiNG!!!!
mayhemtv 1 year ago
some of the demo looks awesome enough to be a game intro
jmm1233 1 year ago
I think Amiga was just too far ahead of it's time to have succeeded, I mean, why did it fail? Was it a lot more expensive than IBM? They couldn't parlay the success of the C64 to the Amiga? That seems hard to believe, based on Commodore's penchant for aggressive pricing and marketing.
Audiomancer 1 year ago
Amazing demo! When I recived this through the post I just knew this was going to be amazing! Long live Crionics, Silents and of course the Amiga!
iTalented 1 year ago
Possibly the best demo ever on amiga.
micdune 1 year ago
Jesper Kyd rulezzz :)
ClOnedCybe 1 year ago
GLENZ VECTORS! I remember that peeing the pinnacle of 3d back then :)
MrMegazuki 1 year ago
simply great, fuck ms-dos
RichardCyberPunk 1 year ago
I wish I'd never chucked my old A500 now :(
Burningmace 1 year ago
Despite all of this advanced hardware and unparalleled talent, Microsoft and PC clones won, and today we're all running some form of Windows. Sad, ainnit.
HuATTK 1 year ago
Ive still got this demo on two 3.5" discs for my amiga 500!...
BigEd23111983 1 year ago
is this scene with toilet prerendered or calculated in real time?
crazyivan030983 1 year ago
@crazyivan030983 Prerendered.
gloom303 1 year ago
@crazyivan030983 It is pre-drawn.
atarimark 1 year ago
@atarimark so it was never a 3d digital project only drawings?? :)
crazyivan030983 1 year ago
This was one BAD ASS demo..
~Kiyote!
kiyotewolf 1 year ago
pure cult...
blanker666 1 year ago
Jesper wrote create tunes back then, and always had a great ear for the right sound in the right place - but this tune is a tribute to David Whitaker, and also to Mike Oldfield for the Tubular rift.
TimHaywood 1 year ago
Listen to the new TRON Trailer Music... Reminds me to the music of Jesper Kyd ;)
metamour 1 year ago
@metamour Because it's sample-reduced at the end of the TRON-intro, making it sound low-fidelity.. like the Amiga samples of the time :)
gloom303 1 year ago
The excorsist theme and a toilet.
Okay then.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
i remember being blown away by this demo, and the morph 4:42 my jaw was on the floor. pure magic. :)
pallenda 1 year ago
...and effect at 5:30 was also reused in ZX Spectrum demo "Action" (from one of Enlight demoparties) :-)
ZXRulezzz 1 year ago
Animation of toilet at 2:56 was also used in ZX Spectrum demo "OVER THE TOP"
ZXRulezzz 1 year ago
Yeah, I remember watching a video of Jay Miner having a speech, trying to explain to some guy why a full D/A converter like Paula is better than chips that could only synthesize waveforms. He asked if the other chips could sound like a guitar, the guy responded "well, they can sound like a piano". Poor guy... :)
yak2be 1 year ago 3
Go, go Gadget arm! @ 6:12 LOL
This is a very cool Amiga demo, which Amiga was it for? My dad had a 1000 and I never saw anything like this on it!
BlueKyne 1 year ago
That´s electronic Entertainment. Epic!
Kaminskifahrer 1 year ago
this one really rocks!...
0nilum0 1 year ago
So nostalgic to me..I remember thinkin ,Wow! how powerful is the Amiga.
celebritypaul 1 year ago
6:28 comeon, this music Panther rip-off...all honor goes to David Whittaker
aure232 1 year ago
I think it's intentional - DW's tune in Panther was called... Wait for it... Hardwired.
BikeNutt1970 1 year ago 3
@BikeNutt1970 isnt there a problem with the timeline here? Panther was released in 1987 and this demo is, iirc, 1990.
jahoodunrama 1 year ago
@jahoodunrama That sounds about right. DW composes the tune that is used in C64 Panther and the tune in this demo is, well, let's call it an homage to DW.
BikeNutt1970 1 year ago
unreal demo
NiNeX 2 years ago
Kyd Balle unbeatable for good entertainment!
Joliie 2 years ago
This is THE demo I remember when I think of the Amiga demo scene. The music is awesome and the innovative effects are all put together perfectly, it is very innovative.
ixer76 2 years ago 4
When this was released its was so cool, it still is today.
darkbyte2005 2 years ago 3
Magic times! Real nice copy party!
got737 2 years ago
Please made hardwired 2...:)
Great!!!!!!!
Ruhiganer 2 years ago
i cant believe that a 1985 machine can sound this way.The best computer ever made.
Paula chip was made by aliens :)
hankillo1 2 years ago 94
@hankillo1
Are you BLIND??
What about the 'graphics'?
Remeber DOS Pcs/Macs with the text only in B&W! Haha
lets not get into 3D and perfectly times/synced Audio to Video...........something that today with all the MegaTons of speed/memory/storage is not accomplished.
Take this Youtube for instance. Compressed so degraded quality AND it still takes more space than the actual demo did! And timing is off on many videos.Even ones on my local drive will skip frames/lose sync.
surfitlive 1 year ago
@surfitlive Yes you are right.Amiga was the most powerfull computer in those years but, I am a musician and I like to give my opinion about its audio abilities.That s all
hankillo1 1 year ago
@hankillo1
Sorry for riffing on you! I re-read what U wrote and cant figure out why I responded 2 U like that. I must have read too many negative comments prior, working me up to 'Over react'!!!!!
surfitlive 1 year ago
@hankillo1 hah, no, just the left overs of a keyboard controller :D
Polybun 1 year ago
@hankillo1 we must all thank Jay Miner's awesome team! :)
nitturo 10 months ago
@hankillo1 thank you aliens
Ehal256 9 months ago
@hankillo1 I agree, It was definitely far ahead of its time.
feltes45 8 months ago
@hankillo1 Well you got to give the oldschool a little credit... There was a reasonable level of sophisticated stuff going on back in the day. How do you think how we got to where we are now?
philiptwood 7 months ago
@hankillo1 Indeed, unfortunately most of possibilities it gave were used only after 90's.
urmo345 6 months ago
@hankillo1 The whole Computer is Alien Technology :D
astrocosmo77 6 months ago
Sick... 5/5.
apemant 2 years ago
extraordinary demo,i have it on emulator,and had in good old days on my amiga 500 :)
Lob0Guara 2 years ago
Badass! God I miss the TRUE multiprocessing of the Amiga.
delioromeu 2 years ago
i miss my amiga boohoo
CorzairOffWorld 2 years ago 3
@All
Maybe you don't know but AmigaOS is still alive. If you miss the feelings to use this OS, check for the Sam440 board made by ACube Systems.
elwoodfr 2 years ago
OS4 isn't made by Amiga and doesn't run on any Amiga. It's got no relationship to the Amiga other than Hyperion licensed the name. Don't make a $1200 mistake buying overpriced, slow, unreliable, outdated, system-on-a-chip hardware like the SAM (also not made by Amiga).
jsuttonus 2 years ago
OS3.9 doesn't run on any Amiga too ;-)
It doesn't change the fact that AmigaOS 4 gives you the exact same feeling than with the old AmigaOS. Go and test it for yourself on an Amiga/Sam computer near you.
elwoodfr 2 years ago
far from it. especially if you compare it to morphos.
valwit 2 years ago
@elwoodfr
>>>OS3.9 doesn't run on any Amiga too ;-)<<<
The most nonsensical statement I have read so far here. I was there when 3.9 was being released, and the first thing I did was to install it on my A1200...
porcorosso81 1 year ago
@porcorosso81 Huh? OS3.9 doesn't run on an Amiga without 3.1 ROMs so it doesn't run on "any Amiga". That was my comment.
elwoodfr 1 year ago
@jsuttonus
I suppose it doesn't have any relation, apart from the fact it's based on OS 3.1 code.
Troll harder.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
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laforge2k 2 years ago
Jesper Kyd's music was and still is awesome.
gnuochtapir 2 years ago 50
@gnuochtapir, this soundtrack was composed by David Whittaker in '86 I guess. The fact is that Jesper's version is the best!:-)
docent60 6 months ago
This is scene history.
alvagante 2 years ago 9
Jesper Kyd <3 :)
OverBurn1990 2 years ago 3
This is a real oldskool demo. Love it!
ippino 2 years ago
Amiga demo's were obviousely to show off the capabilities of the hardware and the programmer, graphics artist and musician, I used to love some of the demo's and intro's and stuff you got with cracked amiga games, the pc demo scene is much better in terms of wow factor but I do miss the amiga days for sure, but hey pc demo's now are nothing short of awsome
TrollSniffer 2 years ago
was on the party that year , this was just amazing , as the guy below me sayd , fat effect after another. to bad that shit odessey was in the same comp( not that odessey was bad , but it was a frigging 5 disk anim ) :(
snokeloke 2 years ago
imo this was the best of the best on the amiga demo scene, nothing touched it. You're just finished going "shit look at that!" and it rocks on into another amazing routine, and then another, all accompanied by superb dark music by Jesper Kyd. Notice the credits...nearly every routine done by or contributed to by "The Spy" - That guy was serious and knew how to code that hardware! Would love to know what the team that worked on this are doing now? Thanks for the memories :-)
Stevieboy74 2 years ago 5
the best example how u can put quality programming on minimal space. and all based on amazing designed hardware! .... i want the good old times back. *sigh ...when we would have today the hardware more expansive, we would see much better programming work. a good example are gaming - consoles. its amazing what the programmers made for games, based on a p3 and geforce3 on the xbox1.... but just my thinking.
maw2k 2 years ago
i remember... i had received this release via swap!... good old amiga dayz...
ugurozyilmazel 2 years ago
_- AMIGA 4 EVER -_
djustplc 2 years ago 3
My favourite Amiga demo of all. Brilliant from start to finish. The logo morphing part is still particularly awesome.
postie2003 3 years ago
I just love the design how the demo goes on from part to another.
vicemanFIN 3 years ago
Crionics is DANISH ARTISTs
maxone2007 3 years ago
how many discs? 2? incredible
vizeeee 3 years ago
Jesper Kyd was my hero when I was a kid. Now I remember why.
pianetasilenzioso 3 years ago 5
I still remember when I saw the Hardwired logoo transform into the wireframe box. My jaw dropped.
pallenda 3 years ago
This has to be in my top 10 fav/most technical demos ever on the Amiga! Silents rule!
iTalented 3 years ago
I think the music is not in time with the video....
jci10 3 years ago
It's from 1991, but runs on a chipset built in 1985.
nebby6 3 years ago 9
Awesome!!!!
x050968 3 years ago
Love this stuff. Jesper Kyd is such an awesome music composer. Most known today for composing the music for the Hitman games.
burkmat 3 years ago 3
This music piece has a couple of original parts, but mostly it seems to be conversion of Panther by David Whittaker on C64.
3yE 3 years ago 2
Yeah, you're correct :-)
David Whittaker did some amazing stuff, especially fond of his music to the first Shadow of the Beast game.
burkmat 3 years ago 2
Interesting hint. Thanks a lot!
Koalitionspoker 2 years ago
The similarity to the music in this demo and the 'Jason Bourne' theme from the movies is striking.
cogit99 3 years ago
One of my favorites! Thanks for the u/l!
nevikdemonovich 3 years ago
raytraced ofcourse :)
conradhw 3 years ago
awesome demo !!
OOverflowW 4 years ago 4
Epic, of course.
IntrinsicPalomides 4 years ago
when is this from ?
TheMorMor 4 years ago
1991
undomondo 4 years ago 4
Its so awesome.. And the fact that it was from 1991 makes it even more awesome. I thought it was just a couple of years old.
TheMorMor 4 years ago 3
yeah, 17 years I've probably made about 20 people watch this back in the day all the time watching it with them and observing their reactions. amazing :)
undomondo 4 years ago 3
This is a serious jawdropper. The raytraced part is totaly amazing. Do you know if its real raytracing or if they used some sort of cheating ?
TheMorMor 4 years ago 3
usually it's an animation, on the amiga 500 :)
neqkk 3 years ago
This most be one of the coolest demos I've seen.
buffelberra 4 years ago 5
my absolute favorit demo ever.
kmarcusb 4 years ago 3
Fantastic!!!
Them good ol' days. The demoscene was (is?) the most creative thing happening the past 20 years. And I remember this one still.
Ah, nostalgia :')
BigDplayboy 4 years ago 8