Jacque Fresco Lecture Part 6 Penn State Greater Allegheny campus 4/16/09

[mchattie2222]

no I believe when he does die roxanne will do a great job it might bring more people to realize or more people to get out and do something.

[silversurfers7]

Politicians have shown the world their behavior, we still vote for them today...(well i haven't EVER!...and very proud of this too!) WE HAVE NEVER EVER NEEDED A GOVERNMENT...EVER!!! Part 2 below.

[silversurfers7]

Part 2:The captured ET at Roswell, New Mexico said after 1 year of captivity and silence......."we do not have GOVERNMENTS like you do here, we have wise elders that make decisions, we have technicians that cater all, we have no monetary system, we can go far into the universe, beyond your imagination". Just as Jacques says!!!!

[WJValente]

"1984... that's what you've got now."

[juanmora19910209]

@WJValente I believe the 3 books he references @ 0:40 are 1984, Brave New World, and Atlas Shrugged. If anyone can correct me, please do so. However, that is what I could make out, hope it helps WJValente.

[ROAHHHH]

they need to realise the cybinated government doesnt tell us what to do, it just maintains and distributes goods and services, it just taks care of the earth and shows us where things are going wrong and how much resources there are all over the world and everybody else is free to do whatever they want

[dmorlan]

The text on the earlier versions was greatly appreciated. I am profoundly hearing impaired, and am very interested on hearing what this gentleman is saying. I would like to see this work proceed. I wonder what I can do best to get this proverbial ball rolling.

[jrgoku1000]

If you like the Venus Project, you can sign the Online Petition.

[Limeisback2012]

A machine can't operate outside it's parameters as long as you don't program it with complex Artificial Intelligence.

[aargut]

He was the one to first say that he was not perfect...BUT his proposition for a true participatory democracy that revolves around a resource based economy is ENORMOUSLY GREATER THAN THE CURRENT BULLSHIT, OK? IF YOU HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION, PLS. PROPOSE IT TO US.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

If I ever become a Uni lecturer I'll try my best to make a course that's a special topic on sociocyberneering, Jacque Fresco and The Venus Project.

[Wrldleader1]

This guy is great! dont worry the world leader is here.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

He doesn't want to be a world leader, but I agree he's great.

[ArticWS]

Have you even heard what he's talking about?

[tripstonefox]

This is the last hope for mankind. When he dies, and if he dies without the masses realizing and actualizing on what he is permeating, we are doomed.

[independentview1]

A guy who told people in 1974 there was no possible way that America could last more than 10 or 15 years is the last hope of mankind?

A man who said a money based society is a false society while he stuffs his own pockets is mankinds last hope. If that's true that's really scary.

[aargut]

First of all, we are all whores in the monetary system, not just Jaques.

All of us had to adapt to this system or we wouldn't have survived.

This is the very reason as to why our socities need to change for it influences our behavior .

If your basis of distrust of Jaques is because he failed to predict the downfall of US in the current monetary system, man i hate break it to you but hes a scientist, not a fortuneteller... THIS MEANS HES FALLIBLE LIKE THE REST OF US!

[tzzeentch]

OK so he is not perfect was wrong then the fall of monetary system is matter of when not if.

[mrcomedy454]

stuffs his pockets with what? everything he's been currently doing has been publicly free to everyone so I would like to know where you get your statistics?

[independentview1]

So all those items he sells on his web sights are free now? Last time I checked he wanted $100 for a picture and $138 for DVD's that cost pennies each to produce.

Not to mention he's a millionaire many times over.

Hypocrite.

[Seabrali]

Jacque is not a "millionaire many times over" WHATSOEVER. If he was, they wouldn't have to sell the Venus Project Research Center. Also, if he was so rich, I don't think they'd need the kid who invited them to his college to pick the up from the airport. Also, all of the Venus Project store items go to the non-profit organization Future by Design.

[independentview1]

A: Just do a good Google search for his net worth

B: They are selling the Research Center because their "perfect" world isn't what they thought it would be and they need to start over.

C: If they believed what they preach they would give the facility to "believers" and let them live there. Because as Jacque preaches sharing without thought of monitary gain makes everyones life better. Of course what he preaches is not what he practices.

[mrcomedy454]

$100 for autographed pictures of his drawings and $138 for the entire collection of books and dvds. He has to make a living some how in this monetary system.

And when I say he's making it publicly free, I mean his ideas, thoughts, and designs. He has never patented any of his work.

Also if you're going to refute anyone's statement by using facts and statistics make sure you don't leave out any details next time because it makes you seem ignorant and narrow-minded.

[independentview1]

The set is 6 DVD's that cost .25 cents each to produce and a book that may be $2.00. With packaging you might be up to $6. Even if the company making them for the Venus Project has a 100% profit mark up that's $12 each. If they only sell 5 a day that's a cost of $21,900 each year and a profit of $229,950.00 on one item.

I would hate to see what they would charge if they didn't hate the monetary system so much.

[Seabrali]

First of all, they don't sell 5 a day. They're lucky if they sell one or two a week. Up until Zeitgeist Addendum came out they had virtually no revenue for Future by Design, everything came out of their own pockets. The production of those videos and the book cost much more than they were able to make back for the first few years after making them. Also, the information itself is not being held at any sort of price tag, it's all free on their website, the store is really just a form of donation.

[independentview1]

At the end of this clip Jacque is asked about his computers running his system and human beings holding values that machines don't such as the value of the disabled. . He is asked about Eugenics and discrimination based on health and mental ability and in the beginning of part seven he answers that "only if there were severe shortages would that happen."

[Seabrali]

He's saying that only in conditions of scarcity would anyone ever discriminate against other people because they are handicapped because they would be viewed as a "waste of resources." That's the monetary system view of the situation - i.e. Terri Schiavo. That example was meant in contrast to what he's proposing which IS EXACTLY the elimination of scarcity as the primary goal. So no, no one will be discriminated against for health reasons, and there will be no eugenics of any sort.

[independentview1]

That is not what he said. He said he would use the Ocean to grow food and in answering discrimination question "only if there were severe shortages would that happen"

[independentview1]

Exactly. I remember as alittle kid dreaming of the day I would grow up and a machine would decide if I was allowed food or medicine. Hopefully it won't have a virus at the time.

I wonder if there would be any choices I would be able to make for myself. I guess only the ones Jacque says I'm allowed to make.

[mrcomedy454]

"Learn more about the direction of The Venus Project through our books and DVD's If you cant afford to purchase them we provide free downloads in our Free E-book And Other Down Loads section."

Right off the web page, they say they provide free downloads and like Seabrali said if you buy something it's basically a donation. Also if you can't find this reference go to the homepage and then click on "What you Can do" at the top.

[independentview1]

As I said in an earlier post a good Google for his net worth and the fact that several people have asked about the financial holdings of his Corporation and are blocked at every turn answers many of my questions.

[Seabrali]

Uhhh a good google? What are you talking about? And who has asked who? You've called and talked to Jacque and Roxanne yourself?

[independentview1]

Meaning go to Google and search for his net worth, his corporate holdings and you see articles where people have tried to find out what is done with the money received by the Venus Project only to be blocked every time.

[mrcomedy454]

I went along and googled "Jacque Fresco Net worth" and nothing came up except for forum chat's that talked about him. I'd like to know where are these so called articles about him?

[Seabrali]

Jacque Fresco HAS NO corporate holdings. No one is 'blocking' anything, and what articles are you even referring to? Not much money comes into the Venus Project in the first place, and the money that does supports Jacque and Roxanne to be able to make the videos and books that they have, as well as upkeep their research center. What is the relevance of this information anyway, since all of their proposals are available free on their website? They aren't holding any "secrets" at a pricetag.

[independentview1]

The Venus project is a Corporation. It became one years ago. What exactly makes up that Corporation and it's worth are what others have tried to find out.

On Google going to Advanced Search and looking for words such as Jacque Fresco, fraud, Venus Project Corporation, KKK, list of wealthiest, and then start reading.

[tzzeentch]

The Venus project is non-profit organization.

[samah101]

@tripstonefox Its not him its his message, we have videos and we can show understanding. Plus if we learn from him we can change things as well.

[TrevorTCR]

@tripstonefox

That's a weak comment. Nature produced him. What makes you think that nature can't produce another like him. As a matter of fact, he has inspired many and we will carry on his legacy. The only thing that's doomed is your thinking process, lol. Just a joke, don't take it to heart. Peace.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@TrevorTCR Nature produced him? Well of course it did but his beliefs and his mind came from experiences he had in life.

[JoeTube27]

Common sense. Universities need to teach courses on this subject, and just about everything Jacque Talks about.

[billnormalatgmailcom]

6:45 best part

[eljujo]

they guy at the end asks, partly, hwo get to control the machines, or how do we avoid corruption of those who hold the machines (AI).....doesnt seem to get much of an answer in the next video

[Synarious]

There is no motivation to corrupt decision making machines because there is no need for personal gain of any kind.

[Arcane1Soldier]

I noticed that Fresco uses the term " If you dont understand that". Any day now, im waiting for when he says " If you dont understand that, then your a fucking moron and you need to open your eyes". lol

[hoagly]

LOL XD me too. But seriously, most people are fucking morons

[Arcane1Soldier]

I agree./

[mp4ever31]

LOL

[CCDDR]

ROFL. Thats something He'd say on a Monday.

[niginit]

It's really rhetorical, you only need to fill in the blanks : )

He's passionately pissed off at stupidity!

It's great to have such a champion of that mode of thought. I too am pissed off Jacque.

[malonervozan]

93 year old man standing for more then 2 hours with no trouble at all...he is amazing on every level !!!

[Durgat]

The guy at the end of this video had a stupid question. He should go to jail.

[john5246]

He actually had a great question. He's trying to understand and it's good that he asked it.

[Bluedash3r]

i cant belive that guy brought up terminator hes dumb ...and hes in collage? robotsjust dont come up and decide to kill humans...they have to be programed to do so wtf that guys retarded

[mollete99]

what are the the last book he mentions, he says, "1984, Brave New World, &..."?

[Seabrali]

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand (sp?) I believe.

[HarveyRex23]

Technology and machines are extensions of human attributes.

[RoyvanKeulen]

I like how Jacques is like a grandpa that keeps on telling stories. I do regret that he doesn't answer the questions more directly.

[otakonpop]

jacque fresco is the best

[Spanky872]

he acts if terminator is fact.

[0megadwarf]

hahaha terminator

[panikeffect]

there are more then 6 parts, look them up in "More From: Seabrali" section above related videos!

[raushkanaush]

WHY DO THESE END BEFORE HE ANSWERS THE LAST QUESTION?

That is a really good last question.